RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
Thanks to all those that replied. It turned out that I was backing up the "Information store" and the information store files (like regular files). It seems to me that if you back the information store up correctly that it should flush the logs, even if you also back those files up incorrectly during the same backup. Either way, it is working now, and I just wanted to thank everyone for the OT subject. Michel, thanks for the offer of personal assistance -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruyere, Michel Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:13 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs I'm using Veritas 9.1 actually but it's almost the same as 10.0, with the exchange agent. You can contact me off list; I may be able to help you out a bit > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Douglas M. Long > Envoyé : Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:03 PM > À : ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Objet : RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs > > I am using BackupExec 10. I believe Michel answered my specific > question. I am talking to the Veritas people right now to see what I > have setup wrong. > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
OMG, I hope he's not oing BLB's, That's the worst thing I ever tried ;/ > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Medeiros, Jose > Envoyé : Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:35 PM > À : ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Objet : RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs > > This may sound like a simple suggestion, however did you reboot after > installing the Veritas agent on Exchange? > > While your at it, check to make sure that Circular logging is off or > you'll have problems with Incremental Backups. One other issue that I > found in Arcadia Backup Exec 6 /Seagate 7 and Verritas 8 & 9 is that the > Veritas service account and mailbox you created requires that it not be > hidden from the Global Address list for brick level backups to work > correctly. > > Hope this helps, > > Jose Medeiros > MCP+I, MCSE, MCT > www.ntea.net > www.sfntug.org > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
This may sound like a simple suggestion, however did you reboot after installing the Veritas agent on Exchange? While your at it, check to make sure that Circular logging is off or you'll have problems with Incremental Backups. One other issue that I found in Arcadia Backup Exec 6 /Seagate 7 and Verritas 8 & 9 is that the Veritas service account and mailbox you created requires that it not be hidden from the Global Address list for brick level backups to work correctly. Hope this helps, Jose Medeiros MCP+I, MCSE, MCT www.ntea.net www.sfntug.org - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruyere, Michel Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:13 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs I'm using Veritas 9.1 actually but it's almost the same as 10.0, with the exchange agent. You can contact me off list; I may be able to help you out a bit > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Douglas M. Long > Envoyé : Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:03 PM > À : ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Objet : RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs > > I am using BackupExec 10. I believe Michel answered my specific > question. I am talking to the Veritas people right now to see what I > have setup wrong. > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
I'm using Veritas 9.1 actually but it's almost the same as 10.0, with the exchange agent. You can contact me off list; I may be able to help you out a bit > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Douglas M. Long > Envoyé : Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:03 PM > À : ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Objet : RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs > > I am using BackupExec 10. I believe Michel answered my specific > question. I am talking to the Veritas people right now to see what I > have setup wrong. > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
I am using BackupExec 10. I believe Michel answered my specific question. I am talking to the Veritas people right now to see what I have setup wrong. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Johnston Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:19 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs No, the Exchange agent does not use VSS. You are getting the error because you have the exchsrvr directorie(s) included in the file-level portion of your backup. Exclude those directories and check the box that says "Exchange Information Store" or something to that effect. Each backup software package is different and you didn't specify which one you are using. Steve --- "Douglas M. Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have the exchange agent, but the error I was > getting said that the > file could not be backed up because it was in use. I > believe the > exchange agent requires that I use the open file > option (which, in this > case is just using VSS). Yes, I know it would make > sense that the agent > knows that it needs to use VSS to backup exchange > properly, but it > doesn't look like that is the case. Or I could be > wrong, and something > else is going on. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Thijssen, > Andries (Cognizant) > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:27 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction > logs > > > Using the 'open file option' in your backup product > will not result in a > a good exchange backup. Either buy the exchange > option, or use NT-backup > to create a normal Exchange backup. You can use NT > backup to backup the > Exchange store to file and then include this file in > your regular > backup. > > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Douglas M. Long > Sent: 12 April 2005 16:52 > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction > logs > > > So lets say I get the backup software working > correctly (Duh, I forgot > to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need > the transaction logs > from say January of this year? The reason I ask is > because for now I > have just moved all logs older than February to > another machine to free > space. If I don't need to ever backup those > transaction logs, then I > will just delete them once I have verified that the > backups are working > correctly. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ayers, Diane > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction > logs > > Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing > it up _correctly_ > As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup > will purge the logs > on completion of the backup process. > > Diane > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Stelley, > Douglas > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction > logs > > Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon > successful backup of > exchange. If your getting a large collection of > transaction logs, that > means you are not backing up Exchange. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Douglas M. Long > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs > > Just had a couple of questions about a couple things > I can't seem to get > a straight answer for. > > > Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to > Exchange transaction > logs? > > > Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around > any further back > than specified in the checkpoint file? > > Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does > this somehow get you > into some issues if a disaster does happen? > > As always, THANKS for your advice/comments > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in > this message may be > legally privileged and confidential infor
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
No, the Exchange agent does not use VSS. You are getting the error because you have the exchsrvr directorie(s) included in the file-level portion of your backup. Exclude those directories and check the box that says "Exchange Information Store" or something to that effect. Each backup software package is different and you didn't specify which one you are using. Steve --- "Douglas M. Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have the exchange agent, but the error I was > getting said that the > file could not be backed up because it was in use. I > believe the > exchange agent requires that I use the open file > option (which, in this > case is just using VSS). Yes, I know it would make > sense that the agent > knows that it needs to use VSS to backup exchange > properly, but it > doesn't look like that is the case. Or I could be > wrong, and something > else is going on. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Thijssen, > Andries (Cognizant) > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:27 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction > logs > > > Using the 'open file option' in your backup product > will not result in a > a good exchange backup. Either buy the exchange > option, or use NT-backup > to create a normal Exchange backup. You can use NT > backup to backup the > Exchange store to file and then include this file in > your regular > backup. > > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Douglas M. Long > Sent: 12 April 2005 16:52 > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction > logs > > > So lets say I get the backup software working > correctly (Duh, I forgot > to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need > the transaction logs > from say January of this year? The reason I ask is > because for now I > have just moved all logs older than February to > another machine to free > space. If I don't need to ever backup those > transaction logs, then I > will just delete them once I have verified that the > backups are working > correctly. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ayers, Diane > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction > logs > > Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing > it up _correctly_ > As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup > will purge the logs > on completion of the backup process. > > Diane > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Stelley, > Douglas > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction > logs > > Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon > successful backup of > exchange. If your getting a large collection of > transaction logs, that > means you are not backing up Exchange. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Douglas M. Long > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs > > Just had a couple of questions about a couple things > I can't seem to get > a straight answer for. > > > Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to > Exchange transaction > logs? > > > Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around > any further back > than specified in the checkpoint file? > > Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does > this somehow get you > into some issues if a disaster does happen? > > As always, THANKS for your advice/comments > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in > this message may be > legally privileged and confidential information > intended only for the > use of the individual or entity named above. If the > reader of this > message is not the intended recipient, or the > employee or agent > responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, > you are hereby > notified that any release, dissemination, > distribution, or copying of > this communication is strictly proh
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
Hi, I'm still not exactly sure of what you're saying but if I understand correctly, you have "old" logs stored on a "file server". These logs are coming from a time where there was no "exchange backups", so they were building up eating disk space. If this is right, having a good backup that committed the logs after the date of those "stored logs" render them useless. So, yes you can delete them. Sorry if I didn't got it right > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Douglas M. Long > Envoyé : Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:33 AM > À : ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Objet : RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs > > I guess I didn't make what I was saying very clear. A proper backup > won't clear the older logs that I am speaking of because that machine > (just a machine with disk space, not an exchange machine) is not being > backed up. I just don't know if I will need those older logs backed up > at all. > > I do understand that once the backups are running properly, then I > shouldn't have to manage the transaction logs anymore. > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
Once you get a backup of the Exchange information store completed successfully you can get rid of your old transaction logs from the other server. You should also see any transaction logs that are currently on the Exchange server automatically disappear once the backup is completed if it is done right and successfully completes. What backup software are you using and what components of the backup software have you installed on either the backup server and/or the exchange server? Jeremy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:37 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs I have the exchange agent, but the error I was getting said that the file could not be backed up because it was in use. I believe the exchange agent requires that I use the open file option (which, in this case is just using VSS). Yes, I know it would make sense that the agent knows that it needs to use VSS to backup exchange properly, but it doesn't look like that is the case. Or I could be wrong, and something else is going on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thijssen, Andries (Cognizant) Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:27 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Using the 'open file option' in your backup product will not result in a a good exchange backup. Either buy the exchange option, or use NT-backup to create a normal Exchange backup. You can use NT backup to backup the Exchange store to file and then include this file in your regular backup. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: 12 April 2005 16:52 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs So lets say I get the backup software working correctly (Duh, I forgot to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need the transaction logs from say January of this year? The reason I ask is because for now I have just moved all logs older than February to another machine to free space. If I don't need to ever backup those transaction logs, then I will just delete them once I have verified that the backups are working correctly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing it up _correctly_ As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup will purge the logs on completion of the backup process. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stelley, Douglas Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: ht
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
I have the exchange agent, but the error I was getting said that the file could not be backed up because it was in use. I believe the exchange agent requires that I use the open file option (which, in this case is just using VSS). Yes, I know it would make sense that the agent knows that it needs to use VSS to backup exchange properly, but it doesn't look like that is the case. Or I could be wrong, and something else is going on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thijssen, Andries (Cognizant) Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:27 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Using the 'open file option' in your backup product will not result in a a good exchange backup. Either buy the exchange option, or use NT-backup to create a normal Exchange backup. You can use NT backup to backup the Exchange store to file and then include this file in your regular backup. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: 12 April 2005 16:52 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs So lets say I get the backup software working correctly (Duh, I forgot to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need the transaction logs from say January of this year? The reason I ask is because for now I have just moved all logs older than February to another machine to free space. If I don't need to ever backup those transaction logs, then I will just delete them once I have verified that the backups are working correctly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing it up _correctly_ As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup will purge the logs on completion of the backup process. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stelley, Douglas Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
I guess I didn't make what I was saying very clear. A proper backup won't clear the older logs that I am speaking of because that machine (just a machine with disk space, not an exchange machine) is not being backed up. I just don't know if I will need those older logs backed up at all. I do understand that once the backups are running properly, then I shouldn't have to manage the transaction logs anymore. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:25 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs If your Exchange backup is working correctly, you don't have to manage the logs. A correctly configures exchange aware backup will purge the logs for you after a successful backup. I suggest that you bone up on your exchange backup and recovery processes. As a start read the Exchange Server 2003 Disaster Recovery Operations Guide http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/disre copgde.mspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:52 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs So lets say I get the backup software working correctly (Duh, I forgot to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need the transaction logs from say January of this year? The reason I ask is because for now I have just moved all logs older than February to another machine to free space. If I don't need to ever backup those transaction logs, then I will just delete them once I have verified that the backups are working correctly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing it up _correctly_ As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup will purge the logs on completion of the backup process. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stelley, Douglas Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
Using the 'open file option' in your backup product will not result in a a good exchange backup. Either buy the exchange option, or use NT-backup to create a normal Exchange backup. You can use NT backup to backup the Exchange store to file and then include this file in your regular backup. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: 12 April 2005 16:52 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs So lets say I get the backup software working correctly (Duh, I forgot to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need the transaction logs from say January of this year? The reason I ask is because for now I have just moved all logs older than February to another machine to free space. If I don't need to ever backup those transaction logs, then I will just delete them once I have verified that the backups are working correctly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing it up _correctly_ As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup will purge the logs on completion of the backup process. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stelley, Douglas Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
If your Exchange backup is working correctly, you don't have to manage the logs. A correctly configures exchange aware backup will purge the logs for you after a successful backup. I suggest that you bone up on your exchange backup and recovery processes. As a start read the Exchange Server 2003 Disaster Recovery Operations Guide http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/disre copgde.mspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:52 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs So lets say I get the backup software working correctly (Duh, I forgot to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need the transaction logs from say January of this year? The reason I ask is because for now I have just moved all logs older than February to another machine to free space. If I don't need to ever backup those transaction logs, then I will just delete them once I have verified that the backups are working correctly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing it up _correctly_ As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup will purge the logs on completion of the backup process. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stelley, Douglas Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
Hi, > So lets say I get the backup software working correctly (Duh, I forgot > to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need the transaction logs > from say January of this year? The reason I ask is because for now I > have just moved all logs older than February to another machine to free > space. If I don't need to ever backup those transaction logs, then I > will just delete them once I have verified that the backups are working > correctly. > You shouldn't delete them. Exchange will flush them after a "good" backup. If your backup ends up successfully but the logs are still there, then its because you don't backup Exchange using the right method. Using a "flat file" backup isn't the proper way to backup exchange. If you have a large collection of logs, and want to delete them manually, then you won't be able to recover from a disaster (you may, but it's gonna be tricky). List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
So lets say I get the backup software working correctly (Duh, I forgot to turn on the open file option)...will I ever need the transaction logs from say January of this year? The reason I ask is because for now I have just moved all logs older than February to another machine to free space. If I don't need to ever backup those transaction logs, then I will just delete them once I have verified that the backups are working correctly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing it up _correctly_ As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup will purge the logs on completion of the backup process. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stelley, Douglas Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
As other's have stated your transaction logs get automatically deleted when the information store is backed up successfully. Circular logging resuses existing transaction logs creating a total of 5 transaction logs with a total of 5 MB each in a round robin use. So when log 5 files up it goes back and reuses log 1. The problem with this is that if you have a database failure you will only be able to restore the database to the point of the last successful backup effectively losing whatever was in the database after the backup. If circular logging is turned off you can restore your database and then using the transaction logs "replay" until you get the database back to where it was just before the crash. If you have the space I strongly suggest you do not turn on circular logging. Jeremy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:31 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing it up _correctly_ As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup will purge the logs on completion of the backup process. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stelley, Douglas Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
Not to be nit picky but it means you are not backing it up _correctly_ As Doug mentions, a correct on-line exchange backup will purge the logs on completion of the backup process. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stelley, Douglas Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs
Transaction logs are automatically deleted upon successful backup of exchange. If your getting a large collection of transaction logs, that means you are not backing up Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange Transaction logs Just had a couple of questions about a couple things I can't seem to get a straight answer for. Is there a recommended length of time to hold on to Exchange transaction logs? Is there any reason to keep transaction logs around any further back than specified in the checkpoint file? Is it typical to enable circular logging, or does this somehow get you into some issues if a disaster does happen? As always, THANKS for your advice/comments List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any release, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify the author immediately by replying to this message and deleting the original message. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
