StorageTek L20

2001-11-26 Thread mrkirra2001

Is anybody using the StorageTek L20 (with LTO drives/tapes) tape library
system with TSM (on NT)?
Link = http://www.storagetek.com/products/tape/L20/

If so, what is your experience?



Re: HELP IN USING API

2001-11-26 Thread Michel David

Which version of TSM do you use.
Which use do you want ? Archive/Backup ?

The use of TSM API is quite complicated but it works
really fine.

I didn't touch the code 2 years ago. We use only
Archive/Retrieve functions(3.7.4) on NT. If you need
info you can 'Reply'.

Michel David
Marnet
ISRAEL




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Re: Filespace full during restore/retrieve.

2001-11-26 Thread Ilja G. Coolen

Joshua,

I understand if there is no TSM specific option. If it is an AIX solution,
this is perfect too. Any help/tips are appreciated.


Ilja G. Coolen


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Verzonden: vrijdag 23 november 2001 19:31
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Onderwerp: Re: Filespace full during restore/retrieve.


I do not believe so, this is the way the product operates.


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Subject: Filespace full during restore/retrieve.

Hello there,

Our Oracle DBA's sometimes run into the following problem when they do a
retrieve from one server to another. In some occasions the target
filesystem
runs out of space and the script, which runs unattended, asks for user
interaction. We are unable to interact with the script, because it runs
in
the backuground. The problem is the following. TSM (ADSM in our case)
generates messages because it doesn't recieve the response it expects.
This
makes the filespace where the logging goes fill up dramaticly too,
ending in
a 100% full filespace too.

My question: Is there an option to prevent TSM from asking what to do in
case of a out of space problem and just terminate the restore/retrieve
action?


Ilja G. Coolen



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Library spanning

2001-11-26 Thread Richard L. Rhodes

On 25 Nov 2001 at 19:12, Seay, Paul wrote:
 The issue that I see is that a storage pool in the future will need to span
 more than one library simply because of the number of needed devices and
 exploiting the flexibility of SANs.  I hope TSM Development is working on
 this.

I just had this conversation with our local IBM storage folks.  I can
see us running out of space in our library sometime in the not to
distant future.  This would be a major mess since only full storage
pools can be moved to a second library.

I ran Legato with 2 libraries for many years - it worked very well
although you have the expected problem of too much work occuring in
one library while drives might be sitting idle in the other library.
This gets into the administrative mess of trying to balance  what
tapes are in what library so that all tape drives are utilizied.

While the local guys didn't have any answers, they did indicate that
Storage Tank would/could address this problem.  I don't know what
Storage Tank is going to be, but it sounds like having to spend more
money to get around a TSM limitation.



Sharing the 3494 with OS/390 and AS/400

2001-11-26 Thread Bazuin R. (Ronald)

Hi *SM-ers,

We are going to share an 3494 library with three hosts; TSM, OS/390 and
OS/400. Therefor we will use different labelcategories to ensure we don't
use eachothers tapes. But in TSM, i think, it is easy for us to label tapes
wich belongs to one of the other hosts. That is not wat you want, but it is
possible. Therefor I like to know if it is possible to set somewhere
something like an mask so we are not able to label those tapes, even when we
not use the 'volrange' option.

Thank in advance,

Ronald Bazuin
System Engineer
Amev IP - Networks
(Amev is an member of the Fortis-group)
Netherlands



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TDP for ORACLE 2.2 on NT - ANS0238E Pls HELP

2001-11-26 Thread Herfried Abel

Hi to all,

we installed and configured TDP 2.2 for ORACLE on NT 4 SP6. We can do
backups but we are getting errors when we try to delete them via an RMAN
change backuppiece ( or set ) x delete. The piece/set is deleted from the
RMAN catalog but when trying to delete withon TSM errors ANS0228E come up.

ORACLE DB:
NT 4 SP 6
Oracle 8.1.6
TDP 2.2.0.0
TSM API 4.2.1

RMAN / ORACLE DB :
AIX 4.3.3 ML 07
ORACLE/RMAN 8.1.7

TSM Server:
AIX 4.3.3 ML 09
TSM V4.2.1.2



These are the errors in the sbtio.log

SBT-155 11/23/2001 16:30:02 remove2.cpp(172): sbtremove2()
 ctxID: 155
 backup_file_name_list: 0x368a6c8

SBT-155 11/23/2001 16:30:02 remove2.cpp(650): sbtremove2(): Exit dsmEndTxn() failed
 rc   : 2041
 dsmHandle: 1
 reason   : 0

SBT-155 11/23/2001 16:30:02 error2.cpp(160): sbterror(): Enter
 rc   : 0
 dsmHandle: 1

SBT-155 11/23/2001 16:30:02 error2.cpp(168): sbterror()
 ctxID: 155
 rc   : 0
 dsmHandle: 1

SBT-155 11/23/2001 16:30:02 error2.cpp(207): sbterror()
 ctxID : 155
 Error Code: 7501
 Error Message, Native : ANS0238E (RC2041) The sequence of calls is invalid.
 Error Message, Unicode: NULL

SBT-155 11/23/2001 16:30:02 error2.cpp(213): sbterror(): Exit
 rc   : 0
 dsmHandle: 1

SBT-155 11/23/2001 16:30:21 term2.cpp(385): sbtend(): Enter
 rc   : 0
 dsmHandle: 1

SBT-155 11/23/2001 16:30:21 term2.cpp(391): sbtend()
 ctxID: 155
 dsmHandle: 1


This is from the q actlog of the TSM Server:

11/23/01   16:32:21  ANE4993E (Session: 44415, Node: TDPNTASRS)  TDP Oracle NT
  ANS02041 TDP for Oracle: (155): =() ANS0238E (RC2041)
  The sequence of calls is invalid.
11/23/01   16:32:40  ANR0403I Session 44415 ended for node TDPNTASRS (TDP
  Oracle NT).


Thanks for any help  ( really needed )

herfried





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Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Herve CHIBOIS

Hi Eric,

Some files may be spread over multiple disk volumes

retype your move data command on the non-empty volumes and they will empty
automatically

Herve

PS: to check this, run 'q cont my_disk_vomume'. If you only have a few
files, it won't be a long SQL request








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Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
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Disable scheduler or enable scheduler

2001-11-26 Thread Robert Ouzen

Hi

I need to run every month  full backup of some clients for Disaster Recovery
and my problem is I need to disable the others scheduler's running for this
night.

I created a policy for those special nodes , but if I run a disable session
this will include my full backup too. I wonder if anybody create a select
command checking the status of the future backup for this night, and except
for the Disaster policy make a temporary expiration for the other backup
scheduler

T.I.A  Robert Ouzen
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Re: Filespace full during restore/retrieve.

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Mansfield

This is a job for Expect.  Expect is a program which provides the ability
to programmatically automate responses to programs like TSM.  Should be
trivial to fix your problem this way.  Check out http://expect.nist.gov/.



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I understand if there is no TSM specific option. If it is an AIX solution,
this is perfect too. Any help/tips are appreciated.


Ilja G. Coolen


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Onderwerp: Re: Filespace full during restore/retrieve.


I do not believe so, this is the way the product operates.


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Subject: Filespace full during restore/retrieve.

Hello there,

Our Oracle DBA's sometimes run into the following problem when they do a
retrieve from one server to another. In some occasions the target
filesystem
runs out of space and the script, which runs unattended, asks for user
interaction. We are unable to interact with the script, because it runs
in
the backuground. The problem is the following. TSM (ADSM in our case)
generates messages because it doesn't recieve the response it expects.
This
makes the filespace where the logging goes fill up dramaticly too,
ending in
a 100% full filespace too.

My question: Is there an option to prevent TSM from asking what to do in
case of a out of space problem and just terminate the restore/retrieve
action?


Ilja G. Coolen



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Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

Hi Herve!
I've tried that. Indeed the volumes all contain the same files, so they are
spread across multiple volumes, but repeating the move doesn't move them...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Subject: Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!


Hi Eric,

Some files may be spread over multiple disk volumes

retype your move data command on the non-empty volumes and they will empty
automatically

Herve

PS: to check this, run 'q cont my_disk_vomume'. If you only have a few
files, it won't be a long SQL request








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Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Herfried Abel

Do you have
cache migrated files yes on this volumes ?
This  would explain a little bit .

herfried




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Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

Hi Herfried!
No, I don't use caching...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Do you have
cache migrated files yes on this volumes ?
This  would explain a little bit .

herfried




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Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Herve CHIBOIS

Eric,

Try an 'audit volume fix=yes'  on those suspect disks ... tell us what
How many files are still present on each disk vol ?

Herve








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Hi Herve!
I've tried that. Indeed the volumes all contain the same files, so they are
spread across multiple volumes, but repeating the move doesn't move them...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Hi Eric,

Some files may be spread over multiple disk volumes

retype your move data command on the non-empty volumes and they will empty
automatically

Herve

PS: to check this, run 'q cont my_disk_vomume'. If you only have a few
files, it won't be a long SQL request








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Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Re: Large TSM database due to no. of files and versions

2001-11-26 Thread Herve CHIBOIS

Hi  Timo,

Instead of keeping your extra version for 365 days, have a look at the
Backupsets for the end-of-month-full backup.

Herve






Kilchenmann Timo [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 2001-11-26
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Dear all,

We have the following problem:

We are backing up some large Novell servers (more than 1 million files per
Server). The users want to be able to restore every version of a file 30
days back and every version of a file at the end of a month 12 months back.
In order to meet these requirements at least partly we set the backup
management class as follows:

Versions Data Exists: 10
Versions Data Deleted: 5
Retain Extra Versions: 366
Retain Only Version: 366

Because of these settings, the TSM database grew to 15 GB in the last 6
months and is growing fast even further. Restore performance is bad for
these servers as well.

Is there a possibility / idea to get over this apart from using archives?
Is
it possible to create archives (not backupsets) from existing data on the
TSM server?

Any idea is welcome!

Eurodis Schweiz AG
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Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Cook, Dwight E (SAIC)

It is a pain (sort of) but do this...
Empty all disk volumes
Perform queries to ensure you know what disk volumes are in what storage
pools...
Delete all disk storage volumes
Halt TSM
Perform
dsmserv auditdb diskstorage fix=yes
that will clear any hanging pointers to that volume
Start TSM
Delete your problem volume
Define back all your other volumes to their proper storage pools
Good to go !

I create macros to do the deletion of the disk volumes and to add them back
in.
Why delete all the other disk volumes ? ? ?
IF only the trouble volumes exists, the auditdb will run in just a
few minutes rather than hours !

I've done this a few times over the years... always has worked fine.

Hope this helps,
later,
Dwight

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From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!


Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Large TSM database due to no. of files and versions

2001-11-26 Thread Kilchenmann Timo

Dear all,

We have the following problem:

We are backing up some large Novell servers (more than 1 million files per
Server). The users want to be able to restore every version of a file 30
days back and every version of a file at the end of a month 12 months back.
In order to meet these requirements at least partly we set the backup
management class as follows:

Versions Data Exists: 10
Versions Data Deleted: 5
Retain Extra Versions: 366
Retain Only Version: 366

Because of these settings, the TSM database grew to 15 GB in the last 6
months and is growing fast even further. Restore performance is bad for
these servers as well.

Is there a possibility / idea to get over this apart from using archives? Is
it possible to create archives (not backupsets) from existing data on the
TSM server?

Any idea is welcome!

Eurodis Schweiz AG
Data Division
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Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Prather, Wanda

Hi Eric,

I had this same problem on 3.7.4 for AIX.  I think it's a known bug, I found
it in IBMLINK somewhere, but I can't remember where now.  .

The explanation was in the APAR, which I don't remember exactly; I think it
has to do with filespaces that are split over multiple diskpool volumes, or
something like that.

Anyway, the workaround is to start the MOVE DATA again, pointing to your
TAPE pool (or probably any SEQUENTIAL pool will do).

If that doesn't do it, run an AUDIT FIX on the diskpool volume.

One or the other has always cleared it up for me.

Hope that helps.


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-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!


Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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TSM 4.2.1 NT client problems

2001-11-26 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU

Upgraded an NT machine client (a server) from 4.1.4 to the latest
(09/28/01) 4.2.1 version.  Now we are having various problems/issues,
whereas the previous version seemed to work, OK (if it aint
broke..yeahyeah.)

1.  When starting the GUI client, get the error (abbreviated) Error
initializing the cache..blah..blahSCANDISK.

2.  After OK'ing this error and then clicking on BACKUP, get the message
(abbreviated) ANS0106E Readindx...24035

Any suggestions ?   Checking the ADSM-L archives produced no hits !


Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807



Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Marc Lowers

Sometimes we find that moving data off the diskpool can fail if your having
difficulties with one of your drives.  Check the activity log over the last
few days for any drive errors.

Marc.




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Hi Herfried!
No, I don't use caching...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Do you have
cache migrated files yes on this volumes ?
This  would explain a little bit .

herfried




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Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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AiX client password problem

2001-11-26 Thread Anderson, Michael - HMIS

Can anyone share some light on a question I have. One of my AIX
clients backup failed due to a password problem.
  The client log gave a ans0282e password file is not available error.
The TSM log gives a ANR0424W session refused
  invalid password submitted. If we reset the password and then rerun
the job it works ok, but the AIX guys are asking
  me what happened and I don't know what to tell them. This is the
second client that this has happened on, and I have
  the password expiration set to . My server is TSM 4.1.0 and the
client is 4.1.2.0


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Re: TSM 4.2.1 NT client problems

2001-11-26 Thread Herve CHIBOIS

Hi Zoltan

Check if your  migration has been succesfully done. We have had this pb on
some servers where
the DSMAMENG.txt end the TSM1UTIL.DLL have not been replaced well.

Check this out. Be sure to install 4.2.1.15 and not 4.2.1.0

herve





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Upgraded an NT machine client (a server) from 4.1.4 to the latest
(09/28/01) 4.2.1 version.  Now we are having various problems/issues,
whereas the previous version seemed to work, OK (if it aint
broke..yeahyeah.)

1.  When starting the GUI client, get the error (abbreviated) Error
initializing the cache..blah..blahSCANDISK.

2.  After OK'ing this error and then clicking on BACKUP, get the message
(abbreviated) ANS0106E Readindx...24035

Any suggestions ?   Checking the ADSM-L archives produced no hits !



Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
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TSM doesn´t send backup to tapes.

2001-11-26 Thread Nazir

Hi,

I have TSM on Win NT.
It is working with the Sony Tapes on Autoloader.
The TSM was working very well, it was making backup on hard disk and after
this it was sending the backup to the tapes.
It was OK.
But now the TSM no more sending the backup to tapes.
TSM said the tapes are full, but the tapes are new.
I changed the the tapes but TSM doesn4t send backup to tapes anymore.
What can I do?

Thank you.
Nazir



Re: Hsm recalls

2001-11-26 Thread Prather, Wanda

You can also get that information from the TSM accounting records, if you
have accounting turned on.
(Accounting records are described in the Admin Guide).


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Aberle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hsm recalls


Hello,

From a tsm server 4.1, I am trying to obtain a list of hsm recalls from a
particular client.  What table/select statement can I use to gather this
information.  Querying the activity log, does not specify which sessions are
hsm recall sessions.

Thanks for the help,

JA



Re: Disable scheduler or enable scheduler

2001-11-26 Thread Mark Stapleton

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:27:22 +0200, it was written:
I need to run every month  full backup of some clients for Disaster Recovery
and my problem is I need to disable the others scheduler's running for this
night.

I created a policy for those special nodes , but if I run a disable session
this will include my full backup too. I wonder if anybody create a select
command checking the status of the future backup for this night, and except
for the Disaster policy make a temporary expiration for the other backup
scheduler

Two possibilities:

1. Instead of running a monthly full backup of some clients, create
backupsets of them. This has the added advantage of not requiring
another data pull across the network.

2. Failing that, create a script that locks out the offending nodes
during the monthly backups. Timing may be a little tricky with this
one.

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Re: fioScanDirEntry(): Can't map object 'xxxx' into the local ANSI c odepage, skipping ...

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Raibeck

I believe that the trouble is in mapping some of the characters in the
file name to the ANSI code page in which Windows is running (notice the
'?' character in the file name). Files whose names contain characters that
are not in the ANSI code page can't be backed up by pre-TSM 4.2 software.
This is discussed in the TSM Windows client manual Using the
Backup-Archive Client, chapter 1, section Migrating to the
Unicode-Enabled Client.

TSM 4.2 includes Unicode support. You must have the 4.2 client AND server
in order to use this support.

Regards,

Andy

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I got the following message at the Windows backup, can somebody explain
how
this can happen and how to solve this. Is this a windows problem or a TSM
problem?
My client is win 4.2.0.0 and the TSM is running server 4.1.3.
message:
11/22/2001 00:09:32 fioScanDirEntry(): Can't map object
'G:\Data\Projecten\Logistieke Doorbraak\Sales  Operations Planning\00
Personal folders\Pim\SOP_058 PB Visit hel?S sweden 07.04.98.doC' into the
local ANSI codepage, skipping ...

Fred de Rooij



TDP for Exchange 5.5 version 4

2001-11-26 Thread Gent, Chad E.

Hello.

I have installed TDP on my Exchange 5.5 server.  I also have TSM NT Client
4.2 install on this machine also.  The Client backs up the NT files and the
TDP Client backs up my databases.  Can someone tell me if TDP backs up the
EDB.log files because when the NT client back up tries to backup the log
files it fails because they are in use.  If someone could shoot me a link to
what TDP covers and doesn't that would be great.  I need to get this back to
stop failing.

Chad



Re: Disable scheduler or enable scheduler

2001-11-26 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis

You could always schedule the full backup just before the normal backups
are to start.  TSM will only allow one scheduled event to be running on the
client at a time, so the normal schedule will miss (provided the full
backup completes after the startup window for the normal backup), or if you
don't mind having an incremental backup run immediately after the full
(which shouldn't do much, by definition).

The schedules would look something like this:
DOMAIN FULLSCHEDULE   Sel Bk 08/02/2000 17:59:00  3 H4
W  Sat
DOMAIN INCRSCHEDULE   Inc Bk 08/02/2000 18:00:00  3 H1
D  Any

On every 4th week, on Saturday, FULLSCHEDULE will run, starting 1 minute
before INCRSCHEDULE for that night.  INCRSCHEDULE will have to wait for
FULLSCHEDULE to finish for a node before it can run (Assuming the same
nodes are associated with both schedules).


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Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems

2001-11-26 Thread Lisa Cabanas

Demetrius,

when we went from 3.1 to 3.7, I saw an decrease in overall backup time from 1/3
to 1/2 the time.  The old code IS slow.  Tell 'em (if they care about their
backup window) they have to upgrade, or you could tell them you called into
support on this issue, and they said you'd have to update to a supported code
level before they will assist ;-)

lisa


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Actually, this particular node is still running ADSM 3.1.0.8! :-(

If it was up to me it would already be upgraded to 4.2.1.0 but
you have certain processes to follow...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: ORNESS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


Demetrius,

what are your TCPIP settings on both sides( client / server)
How did you set TNXBYTEMILIT and other tuning stuff ?

Have your heard of Journal Based Backup (feature of 4.2.x).

If your NT box is able to handle 2 or more data sessions ?
check the RESOURCEUTILIZATION param

You can increase you TCPBUFF and TCPWINDOWSIZE to the MAX.

Send us your params... (and what kind of CPU you have in your NT box)

rv

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From: Malbrough, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:19 PM
Subject: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


 Greetings, SM'ers!

 I have two NT 4.0 file servers that take anywhere from 8 hrs to 16 hrs to
 process all files  complete the backup scheduled backup.

 Processes:  400,000 files
 Backing up: 10,000 to 40,000
 Bytes transf:  6 GB
 NO COMPRESSION

 The server is an H80 7026 2 GB of memory with AIX 4.3.3 10/100  10/1000
 Ethernet backing up straight to disk pool.  Any suggestions from anyone
with
 similiar scheduled NT backup setup please respond!

 Thanks,

 Demetrius Malbrough
 UNIX/Tivoli Systems Admin




RE: TSM doesn´t send backup to tapes.

2001-11-26 Thread Karel Bos

Look at your volhist. Are the tapes in use by db backups. If so, do a del
volhist.

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Van: Nazir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: maandag 26 november 2001 13:51
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: TSM doesn´t send backup to tapes.


Hi,

I have TSM on Win NT.
It is working with the Sony Tapes on Autoloader.
The TSM was working very well, it was making backup on hard disk and after
this it was sending the backup to the tapes.
It was OK.
But now the TSM no more sending the backup to tapes.
TSM said the tapes are full, but the tapes are new.
I changed the the tapes but TSM doesn4t send backup to tapes anymore.
What can I do?

Thank you.
Nazir



Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems

2001-11-26 Thread Malbrough, Demetrius

Thanks, Lisa!  Hopefully, by the end of this week we will be implementing
4.2.1.0
on the client. I agree with you totally!

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Subject: Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


Demetrius,

when we went from 3.1 to 3.7, I saw an decrease in overall backup time from
1/3
to 1/2 the time.  The old code IS slow.  Tell 'em (if they care about their
backup window) they have to upgrade, or you could tell them you called into
support on this issue, and they said you'd have to update to a supported
code
level before they will assist ;-)

lisa


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Actually, this particular node is still running ADSM 3.1.0.8! :-(

If it was up to me it would already be upgraded to 4.2.1.0 but
you have certain processes to follow...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: ORNESS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


Demetrius,

what are your TCPIP settings on both sides( client / server)
How did you set TNXBYTEMILIT and other tuning stuff ?

Have your heard of Journal Based Backup (feature of 4.2.x).

If your NT box is able to handle 2 or more data sessions ?
check the RESOURCEUTILIZATION param

You can increase you TCPBUFF and TCPWINDOWSIZE to the MAX.

Send us your params... (and what kind of CPU you have in your NT box)

rv

- Original Message -
From: Malbrough, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:19 PM
Subject: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


 Greetings, SM'ers!

 I have two NT 4.0 file servers that take anywhere from 8 hrs to 16 hrs to
 process all files  complete the backup scheduled backup.

 Processes:  400,000 files
 Backing up: 10,000 to 40,000
 Bytes transf:  6 GB
 NO COMPRESSION

 The server is an H80 7026 2 GB of memory with AIX 4.3.3 10/100  10/1000
 Ethernet backing up straight to disk pool.  Any suggestions from anyone
with
 similiar scheduled NT backup setup please respond!

 Thanks,

 Demetrius Malbrough
 UNIX/Tivoli Systems Admin




Problems with client

2001-11-26 Thread Rafael Mendez

Hi All there,
We are having a problem with a TSM client 4.2.1.
The error in dsmsrror.log is the following:
11/26/01   00:02:48 Attempt to free unknown pointer. Addr 30028740, File procopt
s.cpp, Line 12282
11/26/01   00:02:48 Attempt to free unknown pointer. Addr 61, File procopts.cpp,
 Line 12282
11/26/01   00:02:49 main thread, fatal error, signal 11
11/26/01   00:02:49   0x1000312C *UNKNOWN*
11/26/01   00:02:49   0x1C6C *UNKNOWN*
11/26/01   00:02:49   0x1001F150 *UNKNOWN*
11/26/01   00:02:49   0x1001E998 *UNKNOWN*
11/26/01   00:02:49   0x10044598 *UNKNOWN*
. and so on.
This problem causes scheduler fall down and of course the backup does not occur. Also 
it generates a core.
The TSM client and the TSM server are installed on the same machine but the server 
works fine.
The operating system is AIX 4.3.3 and TSM server is 4.2.1.7.

Any ideas?.
Thanks in advance
Rafael

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ANS9281E Space management

2001-11-26 Thread Joy Harrison

Can anyone help me with this error, ANS9281E Space management kernel extension is 
downlevel from the user program.

 I upgraded the  AIX client from 3.7.2 to 4.1.3 and when I run a backup I receive this 
error.



Re: TSM 4.2.1 NT client problems

2001-11-26 Thread Remeta, Mark

Have you tried removing and re-installing the client???



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From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM 4.2.1 NT client problems


Upgraded an NT machine client (a server) from 4.1.4 to the latest
(09/28/01) 4.2.1 version.  Now we are having various problems/issues,
whereas the previous version seemed to work, OK (if it aint
broke..yeahyeah.)

1.  When starting the GUI client, get the error (abbreviated) Error
initializing the cache..blah..blahSCANDISK.

2.  After OK'ing this error and then clicking on BACKUP, get the message
(abbreviated) ANS0106E Readindx...24035

Any suggestions ?   Checking the ADSM-L archives produced no hits !



Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
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Re: Large TSM database due to no. of files and versions

2001-11-26 Thread Mark Stapleton

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:02:45 +0100, it was written:
We are backing up some large Novell servers (more than 1 million files per
Server). The users want to be able to restore every version of a file 30
days back and every version of a file at the end of a month 12 months back.
In order to meet these requirements at least partly we set the backup
management class as follows:

Versions Data Exists: 10
Versions Data Deleted: 5
Retain Extra Versions: 366
Retain Only Version: 366

Because of these settings, the TSM database grew to 15 GB in the last 6
months and is growing fast even further. Restore performance is bad for
these servers as well.

Is there a possibility / idea to get over this apart from using archives? Is
it possible to create archives (not backupsets) from existing data on the
TSM server?

No, archives require an additional pull of data across your network.

If your stated business requirements are set in concrete, then you
need to rethink the resources you have available to you. You will
probably need *very* fast disk access and (probably) a more potent
server, not to mention more library resource.

If business requirements are *not* set in concrete, then rethink your
prohibition on backupsets. They are quite a joy to create and use (as
long as you track them carefully).

I would bet a really good beer that none of your users will *ever*
need to retrieve a file that's more than a week old.

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: Mainframe backups?

2001-11-26 Thread Prather, Wanda

AIX has different types of filesystems (JFS, DFS, AFS, etc).  PC's have
different types of filesystems (NFS, FAT).   Mainframes also can have
different types of coexisting filesystems these days.

Most of the mainframe data is legacy MVS format data.  It has a catalog
structure that is very unlike UNIX or Wintel directory structures.  TSM does
NOT understand that type of filesystem.  To back it up, you need an MVS
backup product.

Mainframes can also now have UNIX-style filesystems (which are called HFS
filesystems).  They are directory based, and there is a TSM client that
understands them and can back them up.


Wanda Prather
The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
443-778-8769
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think -
Scott Adams/Dilbert





-Original Message-
From: Gerald Wichmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mainframe backups?


Got TSM 4.2 Server running on AIX 4.3.3 on an RS6000 (IBM H80).

Can you backup a mainframe to an AIX TSM Server?

Gerald Wichmann
System Engineer
StorageLink
408-844-8893 (v)
408-844-9801 (f)



Re: TSM 4.2.1 NT client problems

2001-11-26 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU

Thanks for the help. It was the DSCAMENG.TXT file that wasn't upgraded,
for some reason.  Replacing it from the distro took care of these errors.

Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807




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Hi Zoltan

Check if your  migration has been succesfully done. We have had this pb on
some servers where
the DSMAMENG.txt end the TSM1UTIL.DLL have not been replaced well.

Check this out. Be sure to install 4.2.1.15 and not 4.2.1.0

herve





Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 2001-11-26
14:53:37

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Upgraded an NT machine client (a server) from 4.1.4 to the latest
(09/28/01) 4.2.1 version.  Now we are having various problems/issues,
whereas the previous version seemed to work, OK (if it aint
broke..yeahyeah.)

1.  When starting the GUI client, get the error (abbreviated) Error
initializing the cache..blah..blahSCANDISK.

2.  After OK'ing this error and then clicking on BACKUP, get the message
(abbreviated) ANS0106E Readindx...24035

Any suggestions ?   Checking the ADSM-L archives produced no hits !



Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807



Re: ANS9281E Space management

2001-11-26 Thread Malbrough, Demetrius

-Joy-

Actually there is already alot of good info on http://www.adsm.org about
this message.

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Joy Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ANS9281E Space management


Can anyone help me with this error, ANS9281E Space management kernel
extension is downlevel from the user program.

 I upgraded the  AIX client from 3.7.2 to 4.1.3 and when I run a backup I
receive this error.



Re: TDP for Exchange 5.5 version 4

2001-11-26 Thread Del Hoobler

 I have installed TDP on my Exchange 5.5 server.  I also have TSM NT
Client
 4.2 install on this machine also.  The Client backs up the NT files and
the
 TDP Client backs up my databases.  Can someone tell me if TDP backs up
the
 EDB.log files because when the NT client back up tries to backup the log
 files it fails because they are in use.  If someone could shoot me a link
to
 what TDP covers and doesn't that would be great.  I need to get this back
to
 stop failing.

Chad,

With Exchange 5.5, TDP for Exchange backs up the
database files (.EDB) and the log files (.LOG).
You should exclude those files from backup
when setting up your standard BA client for
backing up files since TDP for Exchange
handles those files for you.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's a beautiful day.  Don't let it get away.  -- Bono



Re: Can't empty diskpool volumes!?!

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Colwell

I suspect there are many different database wounds that can cause this
problem, since many people have suggested different solutions.
If none of them work, here is my different solution.

Mark the volumes 'destroyed' and then do restore volume.
To mark them destroyed you have to vary them offline with the tsm 'vary'
command.  This is what worked for me.  Fortunately all the copypool
volumes were still onsite.  If the restore works the volumes will be deleted,
if it doesn't you can vary them back online and try something else.


--
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Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge, Ma.
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Hi *SM-ers!
I'm moving my diskpool to new disks.
I added the new disks to the diskpool and I updated the old disk volumes to
read-only. Then I started a move data to empty the old volumes. The move
data works fine, but at the end (with a completion state of SUCCESS) there
is still data left on the volumes! I can't get rid of this data and thus I
can't delete the old volumes!
Does anybody know how to solve this?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
BTW: I'm running TSM 3.7.4 on AIX 4.3.3.50
Kindest regards,
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Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Raibeck

For Windows systems, hopefully you *won't* be implemting 4.2.1.0!
Otherwise you'll see APARs IC31844 and (possibly) IC31873.

For NT-based systems, I recommend 4.2.1.15.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Malbrough, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks, Lisa!  Hopefully, by the end of this week we will be implementing
4.2.1.0
on the client. I agree with you totally!

-Original Message-
From: Lisa Cabanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


Demetrius,

when we went from 3.1 to 3.7, I saw an decrease in overall backup time
from
1/3
to 1/2 the time.  The old code IS slow.  Tell 'em (if they care about
their
backup window) they have to upgrade, or you could tell them you called
into
support on this issue, and they said you'd have to update to a supported
code
level before they will assist ;-)

lisa


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Actually, this particular node is still running ADSM 3.1.0.8! :-(

If it was up to me it would already be upgraded to 4.2.1.0 but
you have certain processes to follow...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: ORNESS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


Demetrius,

what are your TCPIP settings on both sides( client / server)
How did you set TNXBYTEMILIT and other tuning stuff ?

Have your heard of Journal Based Backup (feature of 4.2.x).

If your NT box is able to handle 2 or more data sessions ?
check the RESOURCEUTILIZATION param

You can increase you TCPBUFF and TCPWINDOWSIZE to the MAX.

Send us your params... (and what kind of CPU you have in your NT box)

rv

- Original Message -
From: Malbrough, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:19 PM
Subject: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


 Greetings, SM'ers!

 I have two NT 4.0 file servers that take anywhere from 8 hrs to 16 hrs
to
 process all files  complete the backup scheduled backup.

 Processes:  400,000 files
 Backing up: 10,000 to 40,000
 Bytes transf:  6 GB
 NO COMPRESSION

 The server is an H80 7026 2 GB of memory with AIX 4.3.3 10/100  10/1000
 Ethernet backing up straight to disk pool.  Any suggestions from anyone
with
 similiar scheduled NT backup setup please respond!

 Thanks,

 Demetrius Malbrough
 UNIX/Tivoli Systems Admin




Re: TDP for Exchange 5.5 version 4

2001-11-26 Thread Gent, Chad E.

Can I also Exclude *.edb.  My backup also fails on tmp.edb in the MTADATA
dir.  I assume its a temp database of some messages.  How about the
queue.dat file also.

Chad

-Original Message-
From: Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange 5.5 version 4


 I have installed TDP on my Exchange 5.5 server.  I also have TSM NT
Client
 4.2 install on this machine also.  The Client backs up the NT files and
the
 TDP Client backs up my databases.  Can someone tell me if TDP backs up
the
 EDB.log files because when the NT client back up tries to backup the log
 files it fails because they are in use.  If someone could shoot me a link
to
 what TDP covers and doesn't that would be great.  I need to get this back
to
 stop failing.

Chad,

With Exchange 5.5, TDP for Exchange backs up the
database files (.EDB) and the log files (.LOG).
You should exclude those files from backup
when setting up your standard BA client for
backing up files since TDP for Exchange
handles those files for you.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's a beautiful day.  Don't let it get away.  -- Bono



Experienced Admin needs help with Novell

2001-11-26 Thread Miles Purdy

Hi folks,

I currently administer an AIX TSM server and clients, now I need to backup Novell 
servers. I would appreciate some help with some general questions:

-Novell seems to need a user and password to run the scheduler as, what do people use?
-How do I backup up NDS?
-Any special excludes?
-What's the best way to handle nodes when they are in a cluster?

Any other gottcha's? I did fix the TSA.

Thanks Miles


--
Miles Purdy 
System Manager
Farm Income Programs Directorate
Winnipeg, MB, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557

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-



Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems

2001-11-26 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU

Andy,

Where would I find the 4.2.1.15 client ?   I looked in LATEST and the
latest is IP22373 !   Is this the .15 version ?

Zoltan Forray
Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -  voice: 804-828-4807




Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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cc:
Subject:Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


For Windows systems, hopefully you *won't* be implemting 4.2.1.0!
Otherwise you'll see APARs IC31844 and (possibly) IC31873.

For NT-based systems, I recommend 4.2.1.15.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Malbrough, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems



Thanks, Lisa!  Hopefully, by the end of this week we will be implementing
4.2.1.0
on the client. I agree with you totally!

-Original Message-
From: Lisa Cabanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


Demetrius,

when we went from 3.1 to 3.7, I saw an decrease in overall backup time
from
1/3
to 1/2 the time.  The old code IS slow.  Tell 'em (if they care about
their
backup window) they have to upgrade, or you could tell them you called
into
support on this issue, and they said you'd have to update to a supported
code
level before they will assist ;-)

lisa


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Actually, this particular node is still running ADSM 3.1.0.8! :-(

If it was up to me it would already be upgraded to 4.2.1.0 but
you have certain processes to follow...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: ORNESS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


Demetrius,

what are your TCPIP settings on both sides( client / server)
How did you set TNXBYTEMILIT and other tuning stuff ?

Have your heard of Journal Based Backup (feature of 4.2.x).

If your NT box is able to handle 2 or more data sessions ?
check the RESOURCEUTILIZATION param

You can increase you TCPBUFF and TCPWINDOWSIZE to the MAX.

Send us your params... (and what kind of CPU you have in your NT box)

rv

- Original Message -
From: Malbrough, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:19 PM
Subject: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems


 Greetings, SM'ers!

 I have two NT 4.0 file servers that take anywhere from 8 hrs to 16 hrs
to
 process all files  complete the backup scheduled backup.

 Processes:  400,000 files
 Backing up: 10,000 to 40,000
 Bytes transf:  6 GB
 NO COMPRESSION

 The server is an H80 7026 2 GB of memory with AIX 4.3.3 10/100  10/1000
 Ethernet backing up straight to disk pool.  Any suggestions from anyone
with
 similiar scheduled NT backup setup please respond!

 Thanks,

 Demetrius Malbrough
 UNIX/Tivoli Systems Admin




Re: TDP for Exchange 5.5 version 4

2001-11-26 Thread Boireau, Eric (MED)

Here is an extract of my dsm.opt file on a Exchange 5.5 Server

Exclude *:\exchsrvr\...\*.edb
Exclude *:\exchsrvr\...\edb*.log
Exclude *:\exchsrvr\...\res*.log
Exclude *:\exchsrvr\...\queue.dat
Exclude *:\exchsrvr\mtadata\*.dat
Exclude *:\exchsrvr\imcdata\out\*
Include *:\exchsrvr\imcdata\out\Archive\*
Exclude *:\exchsrvr\imcdata\in\*
Include *:\exchsrvr\imcdata\in\Archive\*

-Original Message-
From: Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange 5.5 version 4


 I have installed TDP on my Exchange 5.5 server.  I also have TSM NT
Client
 4.2 install on this machine also.  The Client backs up the NT files
 and
the
 TDP Client backs up my databases.  Can someone tell me if TDP backs up
the
 EDB.log files because when the NT client back up tries to backup the
 log files it fails because they are in use.  If someone could shoot me
 a link
to
 what TDP covers and doesn't that would be great.  I need to get this
 back
to
 stop failing.

Chad,

With Exchange 5.5, TDP for Exchange backs up the
database files (.EDB) and the log files (.LOG).
You should exclude those files from backup
when setting up your standard BA client for
backing up files since TDP for Exchange
handles those files for you.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's a beautiful day.  Don't let it get away.  -- Bono



Re: automating UNIX or Windows scripts ...

2001-11-26 Thread Dmochowski, Ray

To all 
Re: automating UNIX or Windows scripts ...
http://tcl.activestate.com/man/expect5.31/autoexpect.1.html is documentation
for Auto-Expect.
Autoexpect is an application to create an application! Autoexpect itself is
part of the Expect distribution.
Once you start autoexpect, you then perform the actions that you want to
script with Expect.
Once you complete the script generation, it is suggested you exercise the
script to check that it does all
that you really want it to do, and that all error cases are handled.



Re: file from winnt\system32 not backuped

2001-11-26 Thread Prather, Wanda

Most of the .exe and .dll files in winnt\system32 are backed up as part of
the SYSTEM OBJECT backup on Win2K.  It's all part of one big glob of files
that are backed up and restored together.  All the SYSTEM OBJECT files are
backed up every time, even though they have not changed  :(

Try this:
Q FILESPACE nodename *

See if you have a filespace named SYSTEM OBJECT.  If you do, the file is
probably in there.

Try this query:

select * from backups where filespace_name='SYSTEM OBJECT' and
ll_name='FTP.EXE' and node_name='NNN'

(these are case-sensitive, make sure you type them as shown)






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 8:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: file from winnt\system32 not backuped


Hi,
The TSM backup/archive client (v4.1.2.14 for windows2000) seems to backup
every day the (unchanged) ftp.exe file (please see the extract of the
dsmsched.log)

 Start Extract of dsmsched.log ===
...
...
11/20/2001 02:34:21 Normal File--  38,160
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\FTP.EXE [Sent]
...
...
11/21/2001 00:13:56 Normal File--  38,160
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\FTP.EXE [Sent]
...
...
 Stop extract of dsmsched.log ==

If I query the TSM server, I discover the file ftp.exe hasn't been backuped.

c:\Program Files\Tivoli\TSM\baclientdsmc q backup -inactive
\\terserv\c$\winnt\system32\f*

Tivoli Storage Manager
*** Fixtest, Please see README file for more information ***
Command Line Backup Client Interface - Version 4, Release 1, Level 2.14
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation, 1990, 2000, All Rights Reserved.

Node Name: KY-TERSERV
Session established with server CALDERONE: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 4, Release 1, Level 4.4
  Data compression forced on by the server
  Server date/time: 11/21/2001 14:03:38  Last access: 11/21/2001 14:03:21

 Size  Backup DateMgmt Class A/I File
   ----- --- 
   31,504  05/29/2001 13:42:12DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\fax.cpk
1,361  05/29/2001 13:42:12DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\faxcount.h
1,505  05/29/2001 13:42:12DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\faxperf.ini
   50,688  05/29/2001 13:42:12DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\faxserv.msc
1,109,264  07/05/2001 00:41:34DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\FM20.DLL
   28,944  07/05/2001 00:41:34DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\fm20ita.dll
   95,864  07/17/2001 01:12:39DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT
   21,692  05/29/2001 13:42:12DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\folder.htt
   34,064  05/29/2001 13:42:12DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\FORMAT.COM
   38,912  05/29/2001 13:42:12DEFAULT A
\\terserv\c$\WINNT\system32\fsmgmt.msc

Any idea?
Thanks a lot

Paolo Nasca
Cleis Technology srl
Via E. Raggio, 4
I-16124 Genoa (Italy)
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Re: TDP for Exchange 5.5 version 4

2001-11-26 Thread Del Hoobler

 Can I also Exclude *.edb.  My backup also fails on tmp.edb in the MTADATA
 dir.  I assume its a temp database of some messages.  How about the
 queue.dat file also.

Chad,

Yes.  You can exclude those files from the BA client backups.
But, just to be sure... I would be a little more specific on your
EXCLUDE statements for the BA client.  More like:

   EXCLUDE \EXCHSRVR\...\*.EDB
   EXCLUDE \EXCHSRVR\...\EDB*.LOG

If you haven't done so already, take a look at the
following white paper titled Microsoft Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery.
It goes into detail about the files involved with Exchange systems.


http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.asp

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Life is short but sweet for certain...-- Dave



Re: data to tapepools.

2001-11-26 Thread Joe Cascanette

If the databases are large, you can set a value in the pool to say
anything over 500megs is size (or any size) to go directly to tape.

Joe Cascanette

-Original Message-
From: Pothula S Paparao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 1:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: data to tapepools.
Importance: High


Hi tsmers,
can any one suggest me how to backup up data directly to tape pool.
instead
going through tradiitional setup of backing up to disk first and then
migrating to tape pool.

im using 3575 tape pool with 6 drives . i need to backup around 80gb of
db2
database using 4 sessoins. when i created a management class and copy
group
specifying copy destination as 3575_bkup (which is tape pool) and node
mount points to 4 (which uses 4 tapes to be mounted for 4 sessions
opened).
But it ran for few MB and terminated.

i dont understand why is not happening ? can anybody help me to findout
a
way to backup directly to tape instead of backing up fist to disk and
then
migrating it to tapepool.

 help in this regard is highly appriciated.

regards
sree.,



Re: Scheduled NT Client Performance Problems

2001-11-26 Thread Mark Stapleton

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:38:51 -0500, it was written:
Where would I find the 4.2.1.15 client ?   I looked in LATEST and the
latest is IP22373 !   Is this the .15 version ?

ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/patches/client
/v4r2/Windows/WinNT/v421/

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Backup Sets

2001-11-26 Thread Joe Cascanette

Is a select command that will allow me to search the nodes and find out
what backup sets they have and what volume they reside on?

I am playing around with doing a backup set for my key servers on a
daily basis for disaster purposes. These tapes are send offsite daily. I
need to be able to view what servers backup sets reside on which tape.

I was just going to do a search in the activity log for them, but a
select statement would be great to use. I looked through the ADSTAR
paper that Andrew Raibeck wrote with the tables, but never came across
anything of use.. any thoughts??

Another problem is when I load the client to access the backup set I am
unable to drill down the trees. I am opening a call with Tivoli about
this.

Thanks

Joe Cascanette
The Cumis Group



Re: transmitting the result of an sql query to a script ? + loop struture ?

2001-11-26 Thread Martin Trcka

Hi,
if you have RECLAIM parameter set on 100 in your copy sequential stg pool,
reclamation on volumes in that pool shouldn't occur at all.. Or am I missing
something ?

Best regards,
Martin Trcka

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of PAC Brion Arnaud
 Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: transmitting the result of an sql query to a script ? +
 loop struture ?


 Hi TSM'ers !

 I already saw this in a thread, but can't find it again : I'm looking
 for a convenient way to stop some reclamation processes in an automated
 way (script).
 As  those reclamation processes are made on an offsite stg pool, no way
 stopping them by increasing the reclamation threshold to 100, so I
 thought to something  like :
 select process_num from processes where process='Space Reclamation' ,
 and then transmit this process_num to a cancel proc command.
 Is there a convenient way doing that, without calling an external AIX
 script ?
 More clever : if I have several of those reclamation processes, is there
 a way building a loop in the script, to cancell them all, while running
 the script once ?
 TIA.
 Arnaud

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Re: Macintosh OSX Support

2001-11-26 Thread Daniel Lorca

I wish I was providing the answer to this...I have no news here.

HOWEVER:

 From some testing I've been doing, the latest version of TSM seems to
work fine under Classic.  Unfortunately, however, that requires that
Classic be running, and not set to fall asleep after 5 minutes (which
is the default).  Additionally, you would want to have the TSM daemon
alias in the StartUp Items folder just to be sure.

I'm sure there are all sorts of restore issues, but luckily I haven't
had to deal with that yet.  Hope this helps as a stopgap measure.

Cheers,
Dan.

At 1:11 PM -0600 11/26/01, Bob Booth - UIUC wrote:
Has anyone heard of an update as to when Tivoli will be supporting MAC OSX?

I can't find anything on the web site...

Thanks,

Bob Booth
UIUC


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Macintosh OSX Support

2001-11-26 Thread Bob Booth - UIUC

Has anyone heard of an update as to when Tivoli will be supporting MAC OSX?

I can't find anything on the web site...

Thanks,

Bob Booth
UIUC



Re: label/checkin libvol, vollist ignored.

2001-11-26 Thread Miles Purdy

The help says, use vollist only with search=yes.

Miles


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-

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26-Nov-01 2:00:18 PM 
Has anyone tried this?

the vollist=000780 sems to be ignored...

I WAS goin to label an check-in both volumes, but due to previous errors
on these, the plan was to retry one volume at at time.

The HP-library is a Surestore 20/700, scsi-attached.

Server is AIX, 4.2.1.7

11/26/2001 20:33:27  ANR2017I Administrator TOM issued command: LABEL libvol hp
  search=bulk labels=bar checkin=scratch vollist=000780
11/26/2001 20:33:27  ANR0984I Process 814 for LABEL LIBVOLUME started in the
  BACKGROUND at 20:33:27.
11/26/2001 20:33:27  ANR8799I LABEL LIBVOLUME: Operation for library HP started
  as process 814.
11/26/2001 20:33:27  ANR8373I 002: Fill the bulk entry/exit port of library HP
  with all LTO volumes to be processed within 60 minute(s);
  issue 'REPLY' along with the request ID when ready.
11/26/2001 20:33:37  ANR2017I Administrator TOM issued command: REPLY 2
11/26/2001 20:33:37  ANR8499I Command accepted.
11/26/2001 20:34:27  ANR8810I Volume 000780 has been labeled in library HP.
11/26/2001 20:35:02  ANR8427I CHECKIN LIBVOLUME for volume 000780 in library HP
  completed successfully.
11/26/2001 20:35:51  ANR8810I Volume 000784 has been labeled in library HP.
11/26/2001 20:36:26  ANR8427I CHECKIN LIBVOLUME for volume 000784 in library HP
  completed successfully.
11/26/2001 20:36:26  ANR8801I LABEL LIBVOLUME process 814 for library HP
  completed; 2 volume(s) labelled, 2 volume(s) checked-in.
11/26/2001 20:36:26  ANR0985I Process 814 for LABEL LIBVOLUME running in the
  BACKGROUND completed with completion state SUCCESS at
  20:36:26.



Re: ANS9281E Space management

2001-11-26 Thread Joy Harrison

Thank you, this does help :-)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/26/01 10:02AM 
-Joy-

Actually there is already alot of good info on http://www.adsm.org about
this message.

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Joy Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: ANS9281E Space management


Can anyone help me with this error, ANS9281E Space management kernel
extension is downlevel from the user program.

 I upgraded the  AIX client from 3.7.2 to 4.1.3 and when I run a backup I
receive this error.



Re: transmitting the result of an sql query to a script ? + loop struture ?

2001-11-26 Thread Robin Sharpe

If I remember correctly, to stop a reclamation (primary or copy), you have
to first set the threshold to 100, then cancel whatever processes may be
running... even then, they will finish whatever file they are currently
moving.  I think that could all be done in a server script, but I prefer to
script at the OS level, usually in perl...
Robin Sharpe
Berlex Labs



Martin Trcka
mtrcka@SMPAS
.CZ  To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc:(bcc: Robin Sharpe/WA/USR/SHG)
11/26/01  Subject:
08:38 AM Re: transmitting the result of an sql query 
to a script ? + loop
Please   struture ?
respond to
ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager







Hi,
if you have RECLAIM parameter set on 100 in your copy sequential stg pool,
reclamation on volumes in that pool shouldn't occur at all.. Or am I
missing
something ?

Best regards,
Martin Trcka

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of PAC Brion Arnaud
 Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: transmitting the result of an sql query to a script ? +
 loop struture ?


 Hi TSM'ers !

 I already saw this in a thread, but can't find it again : I'm looking
 for a convenient way to stop some reclamation processes in an automated
 way (script).
 As  those reclamation processes are made on an offsite stg pool, no way
 stopping them by increasing the reclamation threshold to 100, so I
 thought to something  like :
 select process_num from processes where process='Space Reclamation' ,
 and then transmit this process_num to a cancel proc command.
 Is there a convenient way doing that, without calling an external AIX
 script ?
 More clever : if I have several of those reclamation processes, is there
 a way building a loop in the script, to cancell them all, while running
 the script once ?
 TIA.
 Arnaud

 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 | Arnaud Brion, Panalpina Management Ltd., IT Group |
 | Viaduktstrasse 42, P.O. Box, 4002 Basel - Switzerland |
 | Phone: +41 61 226 19 78/Fax: +41 61 226 17 01 |
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=



label/checkin libvol, vollist ignored.

2001-11-26 Thread Tom Tann{s

Has anyone tried this?

the vollist=000780 sems to be ignored...

I WAS goin to label an check-in both volumes, but due to previous errors
on these, the plan was to retry one volume at at time.

The HP-library is a Surestore 20/700, scsi-attached.

Server is AIX, 4.2.1.7

11/26/2001 20:33:27  ANR2017I Administrator TOM issued command: LABEL libvol hp
  search=bulk labels=bar checkin=scratch vollist=000780
11/26/2001 20:33:27  ANR0984I Process 814 for LABEL LIBVOLUME started in the
  BACKGROUND at 20:33:27.
11/26/2001 20:33:27  ANR8799I LABEL LIBVOLUME: Operation for library HP started
  as process 814.
11/26/2001 20:33:27  ANR8373I 002: Fill the bulk entry/exit port of library HP
  with all LTO volumes to be processed within 60 minute(s);
  issue 'REPLY' along with the request ID when ready.
11/26/2001 20:33:37  ANR2017I Administrator TOM issued command: REPLY 2
11/26/2001 20:33:37  ANR8499I Command accepted.
11/26/2001 20:34:27  ANR8810I Volume 000780 has been labeled in library HP.
11/26/2001 20:35:02  ANR8427I CHECKIN LIBVOLUME for volume 000780 in library HP
  completed successfully.
11/26/2001 20:35:51  ANR8810I Volume 000784 has been labeled in library HP.
11/26/2001 20:36:26  ANR8427I CHECKIN LIBVOLUME for volume 000784 in library HP
  completed successfully.
11/26/2001 20:36:26  ANR8801I LABEL LIBVOLUME process 814 for library HP
  completed; 2 volume(s) labelled, 2 volume(s) checked-in.
11/26/2001 20:36:26  ANR0985I Process 814 for LABEL LIBVOLUME running in the
  BACKGROUND completed with completion state SUCCESS at
  20:36:26.



FW: Event error: TSM client - Performance

2001-11-26 Thread Selva, Perpetua

[Selva, Perpetua]  Any ideas , how to fix this?

Please let me know.
Thanks

  ...OLE_Obj...





Netware Client Password failure

2001-11-26 Thread Stormy Maddux

I have three TSM 4.2.1 Netware 5.0 clients that won't perform a scheduled backup.

Normally when you first setup the client and register the node, the first time it 
prompts you to enter the Netware ID  password for the backup and stores the files.

These three won't store the password.  Every time you run a manual incremental or a 
scheduled backup, you get prompted.  

The error shows as:

11/21/2001 19:36:57 ANS1880E TSA Connect error,
 NWSMConnectToTargetService 'CTRL3'
 password file 'CTRL3\SYS:TIVOLI/TSM/CLIENT/BA/TSM.PWD'.
 Userid = 'adsm_support'
 failed with cc = FFFDFFD7

When you try a manual backup, the dsmerror.log writes the same thing, and on the 
screen you are prompted for the id  pw again.  The TSM.PWD file gets updated with the 
same date and time.

The DSM.opt file is set for passwordaccess generate and nwpwfile is set to yes.

Any ideas??

Thanks,

Stormy Maddux
Systems Engineer
650-599-1187



Domino - TDP MIgration

2001-11-26 Thread Douglas Currell

Scenario: Domino is being migrated from an AIX to a
Solaris one. Currently, that Domino database is backed
up with TDP for Domino to a TSM (Solaris)server. When
Domino will reside on the new Solaris platform, how
will I be able to restore data backed up with TDP 6
months ago?

Thank you for any suggestions.

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3590 Fiber drives

2001-11-26 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.

Can anyone tell me if there are any issues with the 50 micron cables as
opposed to the 62.5 micron cables and 3590 drives. Taking into consideration
these will be on a SAN soon but for now direct connect. We only need to run
about 50 ft between computer and drives.

Thanks,

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
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Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (888) 997-9614



Re: Changing Library box

2001-11-26 Thread Mahesh Tailor

If you own both libraries and there is no rush to get rid of the old one, why not set 
the next_storage_pool and the reclaim_storage_pool settings to the new library.  This 
way, over time, all the data will be moved from one library to the other and you do 
not have to issue a ton of move commands.  Further, if you have other functions, such 
as DB backup, etc., then you can make the switch over immediately.  This has worked 
flawlessly for me when I installed an LTO library on the TSM system that already had a 
3575 library attached.

Mahesh

 Kelly Lipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/26/01 12:20AM 
You are absolutely correct: there is one to one mapping of device class and
library.  This is probably not the correct model for the times, however
changing it has major implications.

Moving a client from one pool to another is quite difficult.  The only sure
way is to use export/import.  If your tape pool is collocated you may be
able to use move data commands to get a client's data to another pool.
There is discussion to create a move filespace command that, if implemented,
will give us the ability to move a client's data around.  But until then...

I apologize if I missed the intent of the original question.  Moving some of
the tapes to the other library is not possible.  It's an all or nothing
proposition.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com 
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Seay, Paul
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Changing Library box


OK,
This begs some additional discussion.  This presumes that there is a one to
one relationship between the device class and the storage class in the TSM
environment.  But, there is probably not a single installation like that.  I
believe in this case the installation only wanted to move some tapes to the
new library, not all.  In the all scenario, changing the device class works
fine.

The issue that I see is that a storage pool in the future will need to span
more than one library simply because of the number of needed devices and
exploiting the flexibility of SANs.  I hope TSM Development is working on
this.

In our case we have two 3494s, one with 16 drives and one with 22 drives.
It is really a pain to have to worry about which library a tape will be
inserted into when it returns from the offsite storage.  It also limits us
when a SAN client is limited to one library for a storage pool of scratches
because the storage pool cannot span, but I can see how difficult it could
get to support cross library functionality.

So, I guess the only way to move from one library to another is by doing a
client move from one storage pool to another.

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 3:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Changing Library box


Not quite.  You need to update at the device class that pointed to old
library and have it point to the new library:

update devclass devclassname library=newlib

Then TSM will look for the old device class volumes in the new library.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com 
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Seay, Paul
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 10:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Changing Library box


I have been wondering the answer to this question myself and did some
research.  According to the administrator's guide what you did is the proper
way to checkout and checkin a volume to a library.  But, it does not say you
can move the volume to a new library (device class/storage pool).

This is what I am speculating.  You cannot change the device class of a in a
storage pool without deleting and redefining it.  Once a tape has a private
status I am betting you cannot do what you are trying to do.  However, if
the tape has no data on it and you change its status from private to scratch
I am betting you can check it out and back in to a different library.

Yes, this sucks.  Remember TSM manages objects between storage pools.  So,
you can move all the data off a volume easily with the move command.  Then
you should be able to change the status of the volume to scratch and move
it.  I do not know if you will have to run expiration to be able to change
the volume's status.

I have not tried this but bet that this is the situation.

I think there is a requirement here for us to be able to associate a super
device class to a storage pool that contains many libraries and to be able
to change the location of a volume so long as it is in the super device
class.

Maybe Andy 

Re: Installing TSM 3.7 packaged Scripts

2001-11-26 Thread Tony Sinclair

Some time back I took a TSM class and during this class it was mentioned
that TSM had several canned scripts that can/could be installed on the
server and used via the GUI TSM ADMIN interface.

Does anyone have these scripts installed, and the main question is how can
I Install them so I can start using them.

I am currently running Storage Management Server for AIX-RS/6000 4.3 -
Version 3, Release 7, Level 4.0

What I do remember about installing these scripts is that I need to be in
the AIX file system/directory where the executable is located, then just
execute it.

So if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Tony Sinclair
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Re: Product life cycle?

2001-11-26 Thread Malbrough, Demetrius

http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/tivolieoc.html

-Original Message-
From: bbullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 3:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Product life cycle?


Quick question:

Where is that little matrix that shows the end-of-life cycle for all
the older TSM versions? I always have a hard time finding it, and am trying
to figure out when my TSM 4.1 servers will have to be upgraded to 4.2.

Thanks,
Ben



Re: Product life cycle?

2001-11-26 Thread bbullock

that's what I needed. I'll bookmark it this time.

Thanks,
Ben

-Original Message-
From: Malbrough, Demetrius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Product life cycle?


http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/tivolieoc.html

-Original Message-
From: bbullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 3:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Product life cycle?


Quick question:

Where is that little matrix that shows the end-of-life cycle for all
the older TSM versions? I always have a hard time finding it, and am trying
to figure out when my TSM 4.1 servers will have to be upgraded to 4.2.

Thanks,
Ben



Re: Netware Client Password failure

2001-11-26 Thread Jim Kirkman

Stormy,

Have you tried deleting the existing .pwd files in the BA directory then running a 
manual and re-entering the info? If so, then I would recommend backing off to a 4.1 
rev of the client. Also,
as with any Netware problem, make sure you have the latest TSA nlms, tsa5up7 last time 
I checked.

Are you getting prompted for the Novell username and pwd, or the TSM one? I'm having a 
problem on our Netware cluster nodes that's similar, scheduled backups run for a 
couple of nights and
then fail because of a prompt for the TSM userid and pwd. This seems to be a problem 
since I upgraded our server from 3.1.x to 4.1.4. Very frustrating.

Stormy Maddux wrote:

 I have three TSM 4.2.1 Netware 5.0 clients that won't perform a scheduled backup.

 Normally when you first setup the client and register the node, the first time it 
prompts you to enter the Netware ID  password for the backup and stores the files.

 These three won't store the password.  Every time you run a manual incremental or a 
scheduled backup, you get prompted.

 The error shows as:

 11/21/2001 19:36:57 ANS1880E TSA Connect error,
  NWSMConnectToTargetService 'CTRL3'
  password file 'CTRL3\SYS:TIVOLI/TSM/CLIENT/BA/TSM.PWD'.
  Userid = 'adsm_support'
  failed with cc = FFFDFFD7

 When you try a manual backup, the dsmerror.log writes the same thing, and on the 
screen you are prompted for the id  pw again.  The TSM.PWD file gets updated with 
the same date and time.

 The DSM.opt file is set for passwordaccess generate and nwpwfile is set to yes.

 Any ideas??

 Thanks,

 Stormy Maddux
 Systems Engineer
 650-599-1187

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Product life cycle?

2001-11-26 Thread bbullock

Quick question:

Where is that little matrix that shows the end-of-life cycle for all
the older TSM versions? I always have a hard time finding it, and am trying
to figure out when my TSM 4.1 servers will have to be upgraded to 4.2.

Thanks,
Ben



Re: Backup Sets

2001-11-26 Thread Prather, Wanda

Hi Joe,

The paper that Andy wrote is a great resource, but it was written for ADSM
3.1, so the list of tables is out of date.
Use the paper as a reference for how to, but to see what tables are
available for your own version do this:

select * from syscat.tables

At my level (4.1.3) there is indeed at BACKUPSETS table.

So then you can do this:

select * from syscat.columns where TABNAME='BACKUPSETS'

That gives you the same info that was in Andy's paper, but for your own
server version
.
One day when I have some free time (oh yeah, like really...) I'm gonna work
at creating an SQL script that will pull the stuff out in a nice format
like Andy's.

BTW, I think you will need a select that does a join with VOLHISTORY table
somehow, to get the volume name you want matched with the NODE_NAME.

Anyway, hope that helps.


Wanda Prather
The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
443-778-8769
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-Original Message-
From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Backup Sets


Is a select command that will allow me to search the nodes and find out
what backup sets they have and what volume they reside on?

I am playing around with doing a backup set for my key servers on a
daily basis for disaster purposes. These tapes are send offsite daily. I
need to be able to view what servers backup sets reside on which tape.

I was just going to do a search in the activity log for them, but a
select statement would be great to use. I looked through the ADSTAR
paper that Andrew Raibeck wrote with the tables, but never came across
anything of use.. any thoughts??

Another problem is when I load the client to access the backup set I am
unable to drill down the trees. I am opening a call with Tivoli about
this.

Thanks

Joe Cascanette
The Cumis Group



Re: Domino - TDP MIgration

2001-11-26 Thread Mark Stapleton

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:08:51 -0500, it was written:
Scenario: Domino is being migrated from an AIX to a
Solaris one. Currently, that Domino database is backed
up with TDP for Domino to a TSM (Solaris)server. When
Domino will reside on the new Solaris platform, how
will I be able to restore data backed up with TDP 6
months ago?

You're not going to be able to restore the AIX files (in JFS file
format) to Solaris (in whatever file format). You're going to have
to keep your AIX Notes box online and available for restores (though
not online for Notes users) until you feel you can shut it down for
good.

Moving Notes files from one Notes server to another across OS
platforms is an exercise left to the student. ;o)

--
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Re: dsmfmt question

2001-11-26 Thread Prather, Wanda

That is something I am curious about, not being an AIX expert:

What is being logged to the JFS log that creates overhead in the TSM case?
I thought the JFS log was necessary because of changing files in the JFS
filesystem.
But TSM DB, LOG, and STGPOOL volumes (really files) are pre-formatted; their
size does not change.
So what is the JFS overhead when TSM is writing into those files?

Thanks!



-Original Message-
From: Zlatko Krastev/ACIT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dsmfmt question


May I try to contribute to this discussion.
- Raw logical volumes ought to be faster than a single large file because
there is no JFS overhead. What if the disk keeping the jfslog volume is
very busy. And there were many threads on this list regarding TSM log
pinnouts, overflows, etc. Have in mind that JFS is using very similar
methology (but you cannot issue Q LOG).
- There is no need to calculate exactly how large the file has to be. And
there is no need to use dsmfmt. DEF VOL stgpool /dev/rlv_name and the
server will recognise the size automagically.
- With JFS you waste space on superblock, i-nodes and jfslog volume. Raw
volumes are raw - everything is up to you (and TSM) except LVM header (512
bytes). And if you are greedy you can use even the first block. LVM will
complain on some operations but will not overwrite it.
- You do not have control over file(s) placement within the filesystem (and
disk). You can control intra-policy of each logical volume and place most
used closer to disk middle and rarely used on the ends. You can control
which logical volume to be spread across the disks and which not to be
stripped. This can improve performance.
- There is no need to care about filesystem mount/unmount, mount order,
fsck, etc.
- Using specific volume type (I use 'mklv -t tsm_db', tsm_log and tsm_vol)
you can designate logical volume usage. And even after the disk is attached
to another system you can easily recognise each volume usage (when LV name
on imported VG conflicts with existing varied on LV name AIX assigns lvXX
to it).

I though several times why not to use /dev/rhdiskXX but I see to many
obstacles and nearly not benefit
- the disk device name will change on any devices reorganisation, i.e. SCSI
disk goes in another hot-swap bay and gets another ID, alternate path with
different adapter gets new device name
- disk is not signed and someone can overwrite its data assigning it to a
volume group.
- Attachment to other system gives no information what was the previous
usage of the disk.
- Performance benefit from removal of LVM overhead is not so significant to
pay all problems considered above.


Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






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Subject:dsmfmt question

Hi *SM-ers!
I will replace my 9 Gb. SSA disks in the very near future. The new disks
(36
Gb. 10.000 rpm) will have to be added to the diskpool one by one.
I remember from the last time that it was quite difficult to allocate a
disk
file which fills the disk completely. If you have, for instance, a 9 Gb.
disk, you cannot create a 9 Gb. file by issuing a DSMFMT -G -DATA filename
9. This results in an error indicating the there isn't enough space
available. Apparently the dsmfmt utility needs a little bit overhead space.
Does anybody know how to calculate the maximum space one can specify to
fill
the disk to it's maximum?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
Kindest regards,
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Re: 3590 Fiber drives: Cabling Issues

2001-11-26 Thread Seay, Paul

The short cable that runs down to the patch panel (barrels) on the fibre
channel drives are 50 micron provided by IBM.  This means that the jumper to
the switch will change if you use 62.5 micron cables.

I have successfully done this, but it is not a supported configuration.
Apparently, if you only do this change once in the connection it is not
likely to cause a problem on short distances like you are talking about.
What we have done is placed our ES-1000s under the library (3494) and cabled
the drives directly into the ES-1000.  Then, the uplink can be whatever you
desire.  You could do the same with a Brocade switch.

-Original Message-
From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 3:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3590 Fiber drives


Can anyone tell me if there are any issues with the 50 micron cables as
opposed to the 62.5 micron cables and 3590 drives. Taking into consideration
these will be on a SAN soon but for now direct connect. We only need to run
about 50 ft between computer and drives.

Thanks,

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
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Re: transmitting the result of an sql query to a script ? + loop struture ?

2001-11-26 Thread bbullock

As yet another example of the numerous ways to do the same task in
unix. Here's a simple script I wrote a while back to do the same task:


for i in $( dsmadmc -se=xxx -id=xxx -password=xxx select PROCESS_NUM from
processes where PROCESS like 'Space Reclamation' |grep '[0-9]' |grep -v
'[A-z]')
do
 dsmadmc -se=xxx -id=xxx -password=xxx can proc $i
done
__

As for the original question: I don't know of a way to do it within
the TSM server itself (with either a script or a macro). I'm not saying that
it can't be done, only that I don't know of a way.

Thanks,
Ben


-Original Message-
From: Baines, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AW: transmitting the result of an sql query to a script ? +
loop struture ?


I can't think how you'd do it without a shell script. Try this (not tested!)

for proc in `dsmadmc -se=xxx -id=xxx -password=xxx -tab select '#!#!',
process_num from processes where process='Space Reclamation' | awk '/^#!#!/
{printf(%d\n, $2)}'`
do
   dsmadmc -se=xxx -id=xxx -password=xxx -tab cancel proc $proc
done


Mit freundlichen Grüßen - With best regards
Serdeczne pozdrowienia - Slan agus beannacht
Paul Baines
TSM/ADSM Consultant


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Betreff: transmitting the result of an sql query to a script ? + loop
struture ?


Hi TSM'ers !

I already saw this in a thread, but can't find it again : I'm looking
for a convenient way to stop some reclamation processes in an automated
way (script).
As  those reclamation processes are made on an offsite stg pool, no way
stopping them by increasing the reclamation threshold to 100, so I
thought to something  like :
select process_num from processes where process='Space Reclamation' ,
and then transmit this process_num to a cancel proc command.
Is there a convenient way doing that, without calling an external AIX
script ?
More clever : if I have several of those reclamation processes, is there
a way building a loop in the script, to cancell them all, while running
the script once ?
TIA.
Arnaud

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Re: Backup Sets

2001-11-26 Thread Joe Cascanette

Thanks Wanda. Yep I found the tables. Does not contain the information
im looking for but its a start. I will work with pulling the information
from the vol history file.

Thanks

Joe Cascanette..

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 4:48 PM
To: 'ADSM: Dist Stor Manager'
Cc: Joe Cascanette
Subject: RE: Backup Sets


Hi Joe,

The paper that Andy wrote is a great resource, but it was written for
ADSM
3.1, so the list of tables is out of date.
Use the paper as a reference for how to, but to see what tables are
available for your own version do this:

select * from syscat.tables

At my level (4.1.3) there is indeed at BACKUPSETS table.

So then you can do this:

select * from syscat.columns where TABNAME='BACKUPSETS'

That gives you the same info that was in Andy's paper, but for your own
server version
.
One day when I have some free time (oh yeah, like really...) I'm gonna
work
at creating an SQL script that will pull the stuff out in a nice
format
like Andy's.

BTW, I think you will need a select that does a join with VOLHISTORY
table
somehow, to get the volume name you want matched with the NODE_NAME.

Anyway, hope that helps.


Wanda Prather
The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
443-778-8769
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think -
Scott Adams/Dilbert






-Original Message-
From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Backup Sets


Is a select command that will allow me to search the nodes and find out
what backup sets they have and what volume they reside on?

I am playing around with doing a backup set for my key servers on a
daily basis for disaster purposes. These tapes are send offsite daily. I
need to be able to view what servers backup sets reside on which tape.

I was just going to do a search in the activity log for them, but a
select statement would be great to use. I looked through the ADSTAR
paper that Andrew Raibeck wrote with the tables, but never came across
anything of use.. any thoughts??

Another problem is when I load the client to access the backup set I am
unable to drill down the trees. I am opening a call with Tivoli about
this.

Thanks

Joe Cascanette
The Cumis Group



Re: Netware Client Password failure

2001-11-26 Thread Peter Hadikin

Hello Jim,

If you have any weird punctuation in your pw ... try change the pw to
exclude any punctuation ... had a problem here where removing a '.' in
the pw fixed our problem.

Good luck, Peter




Jim Kirkman
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Stor Manager
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Stormy,

Have you tried deleting the existing .pwd files in the BA directory then
running a manual and re-entering the info? If so, then I would recommend
backing off to a 4.1 rev of the client. Also,
as with any Netware problem, make sure you have the latest TSA nlms,
tsa5up7 last time I checked.

Are you getting prompted for the Novell username and pwd, or the TSM
one? I'm having a problem on our Netware cluster nodes that's similar,
scheduled backups run for a couple of nights and
then fail because of a prompt for the TSM userid and pwd. This seems to
be a problem since I upgraded our server from 3.1.x to 4.1.4. Very
frustrating.

Stormy Maddux wrote:

 I have three TSM 4.2.1 Netware 5.0 clients that won't perform a
scheduled backup.

 Normally when you first setup the client and register the node, the
first time it prompts you to enter the Netware ID  password for the
backup and stores the files.

 These three won't store the password.  Every time you run a manual
incremental or a scheduled backup, you get prompted.

 The error shows as:

 11/21/2001 19:36:57 ANS1880E TSA Connect error,
  NWSMConnectToTargetService 'CTRL3'
  password file 'CTRL3\SYS:TIVOLI/TSM/CLIENT/BA/TSM.PWD'.
  Userid = 'adsm_support'
  failed with cc = FFFDFFD7

 When you try a manual backup, the dsmerror.log writes the same thing,
and on the screen you are prompted for the id  pw again.  The TSM.PWD
file gets updated with the same date and time.

 The DSM.opt file is set for passwordaccess generate and nwpwfile is
set to yes.

 Any ideas??

 Thanks,

 Stormy Maddux
 Systems Engineer
 650-599-1187

--
Jim Kirkman
AIS - Systems
UNC-Chapel Hill
966-5884



Re: data to tapepools.

2001-11-26 Thread Seay, Paul

What messages did you get in the activity log?
It could be a number of problems.
Are the session limit parameters correct?
Are there tapes in the primary tape pool that you are sending to (is it a
primary pool).
I presume when you say copy pool you mean next storage pool which is a tape
(sequential) primary storage pool.  Usually when I have this problem it is
something dumb that I just forgot to key in.

The other piece is the database estimated element support did not come into
play until recently which will be needed if you want to cause it to fail
over to the tape pool if it is too large for the disk pool.  Did you set a
maximum threshold on the primary disk pool?

-Original Message-
From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: data to tapepools.


If the databases are large, you can set a value in the pool to say
anything over 500megs is size (or any size) to go directly to tape.

Joe Cascanette

-Original Message-
From: Pothula S Paparao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 1:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: data to tapepools.
Importance: High


Hi tsmers,
can any one suggest me how to backup up data directly to tape pool.
instead
going through tradiitional setup of backing up to disk first and then
migrating to tape pool.

im using 3575 tape pool with 6 drives . i need to backup around 80gb of
db2
database using 4 sessoins. when i created a management class and copy
group
specifying copy destination as 3575_bkup (which is tape pool) and node
mount points to 4 (which uses 4 tapes to be mounted for 4 sessions
opened).
But it ran for few MB and terminated.

i dont understand why is not happening ? can anybody help me to findout
a
way to backup directly to tape instead of backing up fist to disk and
then
migrating it to tapepool.

 help in this regard is highly appriciated.

regards
sree.,



Re: 3590 Fiber drives

2001-11-26 Thread Richard L. Rhodes

On 26 Nov 2001 at 12:12, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:
 Can anyone tell me if there are any issues with the 50 micron cables as
 opposed to the 62.5 micron cables and 3590 drives. Taking into consideration
 these will be on a SAN soon but for now direct connect. We only need to run
 about 50 ft between computer and drives.

I can't speak directly to 3590 drives, but FC supports both 50/125
and 62.5/125 cables.  The difference is in the distance the cables
can be run.  I believe the distances supported are 500m for 50/125
and 300m for 62.5/125.  I have fiber channel connections running on
both, although only to disk subsystems (emc and ibm).  I think both
also work with gigabit ethernet.



Re: Backup Sets

2001-11-26 Thread Joe Cascanette

Actually never mind..  it shows up nicely in the vol hist file, q
volhist type=backupset it gives you all the information.

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 4:48 PM
To: 'ADSM: Dist Stor Manager'
Cc: Joe Cascanette
Subject: RE: Backup Sets


Hi Joe,

The paper that Andy wrote is a great resource, but it was written for
ADSM
3.1, so the list of tables is out of date.
Use the paper as a reference for how to, but to see what tables are
available for your own version do this:

select * from syscat.tables

At my level (4.1.3) there is indeed at BACKUPSETS table.

So then you can do this:

select * from syscat.columns where TABNAME='BACKUPSETS'

That gives you the same info that was in Andy's paper, but for your own
server version
.
One day when I have some free time (oh yeah, like really...) I'm gonna
work
at creating an SQL script that will pull the stuff out in a nice
format
like Andy's.

BTW, I think you will need a select that does a join with VOLHISTORY
table
somehow, to get the volume name you want matched with the NODE_NAME.

Anyway, hope that helps.


Wanda Prather
The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
443-778-8769
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think -
Scott Adams/Dilbert






-Original Message-
From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Backup Sets


Is a select command that will allow me to search the nodes and find out
what backup sets they have and what volume they reside on?

I am playing around with doing a backup set for my key servers on a
daily basis for disaster purposes. These tapes are send offsite daily. I
need to be able to view what servers backup sets reside on which tape.

I was just going to do a search in the activity log for them, but a
select statement would be great to use. I looked through the ADSTAR
paper that Andrew Raibeck wrote with the tables, but never came across
anything of use.. any thoughts??

Another problem is when I load the client to access the backup set I am
unable to drill down the trees. I am opening a call with Tivoli about
this.

Thanks

Joe Cascanette
The Cumis Group



Re: Sharing the 3494 with OS/390 and AS/400

2001-11-26 Thread Seay, Paul

In the case of OS/390 you are running the OAM task which has an exit that
may help.

Every system gets notification of a volume when it is inserted that is
registered to the 3494, even an open systems lmcpd system.  The OS/390
system is the only one that responds unfortunately.  It sets the category of
the tape based on whether the exit says to accept the tape or not.  For
OS/390 we implemented the exit and ignore tapes not for it by volser range.
Sorry, that does not help in TSM or AS/400.

What we desperately need from 3494 development is a lmcpd connection task
delivered for each platform that we can invoke a script from.  Then, we can
write the script in whatever tool we want.  That way you could dynamically
checkin under TSM and under an AS/400 do whatever it needs such as give the
tape a category via the mtlib command.

I believe that TSM will only label tapes that are in its categories already
or the FF00 category (insert), so you can make it skip the OS/390 tapes by
using the OAM exit.  I know TSM will not relabel that already has a valid
TSM label on it.  This is to prevent destroying tapes that have valid data.

If I could spend enough time to tinker around with C, I would write the code
for this task.  It is relatively simple.  And, essentially, you do not need
to run it but in one place because every host gets notified for all inserts.
And, by the way, the library represents the list of tapes in insert status
every time a host opens the interface to the library.



-Original Message-
From: Bazuin R. (Ronald) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sharing the 3494 with OS/390 and AS/400


Hi *SM-ers,

We are going to share an 3494 library with three hosts; TSM, OS/390 and
OS/400. Therefor we will use different labelcategories to ensure we don't
use eachothers tapes. But in TSM, i think, it is easy for us to label tapes
wich belongs to one of the other hosts. That is not wat you want, but it is
possible. Therefor I like to know if it is possible to set somewhere
something like an mask so we are not able to label those tapes, even when we
not use the 'volrange' option.

Thank in advance,

Ronald Bazuin
System Engineer
Amev IP - Networks
(Amev is an member of the Fortis-group)
Netherlands



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Domains Question

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Robb

Folks...

ADSM 3.1 was implemented in my shop about 5 years ago (on a mainframe server).  At the 
time, we had 5 Netware Clients, and about 7 AIX Clients, so it made sense to create 
two domains - one for each platform.As in most shops, we've experienced an Open 
Systems growth explosion, to the point where I now have approx 30 Netware clients, and 
60 UNIX clients, still defined to the original two domains.  My server is TSM 4.1, 
running on S/390.  My storage pools for the two domains - from disk to copy pool to 
offsite tape storage have all grown huge.   My feeling is that maintaining the entire 
environment within two domains  is inefficient - backups, migrations, etc take far too 
long, and I don't dream of turning on collocation.

My questions are:

1) Do most people run their servers with fewer, large domains, or is it prevalent to 
operate with many smaller domains defined  with less client nodes attached?  

2) If a new domain is defined, how do you move a node, and all it's backed up files, 
from one domain  to different new domain ?

Thank you,

Bill Robb



Re: Domains Question

2001-11-26 Thread Seay, Paul

Actually, a domain has nothing specifically to do with a storage pool.  The
deal is the clients are using a default policy domain management class.
This management class has a backup group associated with it which can only
go to one primary storage pool, maybe a next pool, etc.  Multiple management
classes could be put under the current policy domain with a new management
class (at least in V4 you can do this).  But, this requires the dsm.opt file
on each client to specify management classes, which is probably not what you
want.

If you change the policy domain of the clients to new ones with different
storage pools you can move the data to the new storage pools and a rebind to
the new management class will occur on the first backup.  I recommend you
setup a little test server to test out everything before you try this on a
production server.

Now for your real question.  How many policy domains?  Policy domains relate
to your business objectives and need to separate data into default
management classes easily.  Some of the TDPs (Oracle, Exchange, SQL Server,
DB2, etc) require/recommend separate policy domains from the client backup
which you probably do not have implemented.

I will give you an example.  Say you have three areas of business:
Office Automation
Manufacturing
Engineering

These could have the same or different server platforms but are distinct
business entities.  It would probably be prudent to separate them into
separate policy domains and storage pools for recovery purposes.  You may
want to break them down further.  As technicians we think in server OS terms
AIX, IRIX, Windows, Netware, Solaris, etc., but that is not necessarily the
right business model because many times an environment crosses many
platforms.

The other example that may seem dumb is we use AIX/Windows TSM servers.  We
send them to their own storage pools just to isolate the restore tapes
easily for disaster recovery reasons.  Which ultimately, is how your policy
organization may come out for your business.

The technical reason for several policy domains is TSM administration
security.  You can segment who can touch what and do to what by policy
domain.

The TSM Administrator's guide makes a real good book to put you to sleep at
night.  You should use it for about a week.  It will really help you get a
handle on the reasons for policy domains and storage pools.

In the end, your real question has to do with how many storage pools do you
need.  That is where you categorize your data by whether collocation makes
sense, reclamation makes sense, etc.  This is a balancing act.  The more
storage pools you have the more you have to manage.  Pick the proper
granularity.

In my case I have about 5 primary disk pools, 15 primary tape pools, and 15
copy tape pools, but I have a 40TB, 250+ many platform server environment,
with requirements to segregate customer data and all sorts of requirements.
Some of my tape pools are the primary and there are no disk pools in the
middle.  We use a lot of SAN managed tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Domains Question


Folks...

ADSM 3.1 was implemented in my shop about 5 years ago (on a mainframe
server).  At the time, we had 5 Netware Clients, and about 7 AIX Clients, so
it made sense to create two domains - one for each platform.As in most
shops, we've experienced an Open Systems growth explosion, to the point
where I now have approx 30 Netware clients, and 60 UNIX clients, still
defined to the original two domains.  My server is TSM 4.1, running on
S/390.  My storage pools for the two domains - from disk to copy pool to
offsite tape storage have all grown huge.   My feeling is that maintaining
the entire environment within two domains  is inefficient - backups,
migrations, etc take far too long, and I don't dream of turning on
collocation.

My questions are:

1) Do most people run their servers with fewer, large domains, or is it
prevalent to operate with many smaller domains defined  with less client
nodes attached?

2) If a new domain is defined, how do you move a node, and all it's backed
up files, from one domain  to different new domain ?

Thank you,

Bill Robb



Problems with TDPO_OPTFILE

2001-11-26 Thread Elke Fink

I can´t set TDPO_OPTFILE to any other value than tdpo.opt in the default
installation directory, because values like TDPO_NODE etc. are not
recognized. I work with AIX V4.3.3 both TSM server and client, TSM Server
V4.1 and TDP for Oracle V2.2.Can anybody help me? Thanks a lot!



Getting Sap R/3 to backup using TSM

2001-11-26 Thread Crawford, Lindy

Hi

We have SAP R/3 loaded, DB2 on AIX 4.3.2. we are trying to use the scheduler
within SAP to backup to TSM...do you know how to get this working

Thanks


Regards

Lindy Crawford
BoE Corporate IT
Tel: 031-3642185  Fax: 031-3642946
Cell: 083 632 5982
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