Re: TSM 7.1
Thank You Harmeet, I'm looking at upgrading to 7.1 for both clients and Servers. All my lesser environments are auto-deployed with the 7.1 client for a burn in period, and there have been no issues to date. -Nick -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Harmeet Sian Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:51 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 I've been labelled a maniac for rolling out fresh 7.1 to several clients instead of trusted 6.3.4 but not a single one has had any issue. I was hoping I could do more with the op center but the dashboard is making clients go weak at the knees. Also the TSM4VE updates have somehow made this a much more reliable product - no more blank screens in vCenter or inability to edit jobs. Also loving the separate interface without having to load vCenter or mess about with -optfile and shortcut settings. I did have issues upgrading one TSM server (6.3.4 but this guy has seen upgrades all the way from 6.2 days) but I was able to roll back painlessly - even without a DB backup ( upgrade process be damned... its just 'next', 'next', 'next' right?? :) ). I then followed the upgrade guide properly and still had issues so I'm suspecting the server itself has something fundamentally wrong with it. All the installations I have had have been on Win 2008r2 or 2012 with ample memory and processor (128GB RAM or above, 16 cores etc). I'm currently looking at how the hub/spoke replication works but given my experience so far I expect to be pleasantly surprised. All-in-all this is been such a good experience compared to TSM6.1. Harmeet Sian SENIOR SYSTEMS ENGINEER The Missing Link Network Integration Pty Ltd a 9-11 Dickson Ave Artarmon NSW 2064 p 1300 865 865 os +61 2 8436 8585 w themissinglink.com.au -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Marouf, Nick Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2014 9:32 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 Hello, I wanted to see what the general feedback is on TSM 7.1? I haven't seen many reported problems. -Nick __ This email has been scanned by The Missing Link's Email Security System - Powered by Symantec.cloud. For more information please email supp...@themissinglink.com.au __ CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify The Missing Link immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of The Missing Link. _ This email has been scanned by The Missing Link's Email Security System - Powered by Symantec.cloud. For more information please email supp...@themissinglink.com.au __
Re: TSM 7.1
For those of you upgrading or looking at upgrading, what features/fixes are motivating the decision? We'll probably sit at v6.3.4 for now, so I'm mostly curious. Thanks, -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns
Is there a way to determine the wwpn and serial number defined for each fc port on a ts1120 drive without connecting it to a fc switch? I have been through the 3592 operator's guide and have not found anything. I am preparing for a tsm 5.5 to 6.2.5 upgrade. I would like to prerun cables from the second ports on our ts1120 drives to the new fibre channel switch. I also would like to create tsm macros to define drives and paths, and also create udev rules to give the drives persistent device names. I currently use serial number to determine how to name the drives. Doing all this ahead of time wil make the upgrade a lot simpler. Any help is appreciated.
Re: determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns
try sh library On 1/17/2014 16:50, Lee, Gary wrote: Is there a way to determine the wwpn and serial number defined for each fc port on a ts1120 drive without connecting it to a fc switch? I have been through the 3592 operator's guide and have not found anything. I am preparing for a tsm 5.5 to 6.2.5 upgrade. I would like to prerun cables from the second ports on our ts1120 drives to the new fibre channel switch. I also would like to create tsm macros to define drives and paths, and also create udev rules to give the drives persistent device names. I currently use serial number to determine how to name the drives. Doing all this ahead of time wil make the upgrade a lot simpler. Any help is appreciated.
Delete last snapshot?
Is there a way to force a delete of the last database snapshot backup? I have one from several months ago, sitting on hardware we're decommissioning. DEL VOLHIST TYPE=DBS TODATE=TODAY won't do it and the manual says the last won't be deleted. Is there an un-documented command option? Thanks. Harold Vandeventer Systems Programmer State of Kansas - Office of Information Technology Services STE 751-S 910 SW Jackson (785) 296-0631 [Confidentiality notice:] *** This e-mail message, including attachments, if any, is intended for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original message, including all copies, Thank you. ***
Re: determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns
Sh library shows the ports on the drives already in use. I need to see the information for the unconnected ports. Our IBM CE had told me before that serial numbers and wwpns are software defineable on the drive. Just hoping that there was a way to get to these values without connecting the second ports to a san. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Chavdar Cholev Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:56 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns try sh library On 1/17/2014 16:50, Lee, Gary wrote: Is there a way to determine the wwpn and serial number defined for each fc port on a ts1120 drive without connecting it to a fc switch? I have been through the 3592 operator's guide and have not found anything. I am preparing for a tsm 5.5 to 6.2.5 upgrade. I would like to prerun cables from the second ports on our ts1120 drives to the new fibre channel switch. I also would like to create tsm macros to define drives and paths, and also create udev rules to give the drives persistent device names. I currently use serial number to determine how to name the drives. Doing all this ahead of time wil make the upgrade a lot simpler. Any help is appreciated.
Re: determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns
Using TSMManager to query the drives, it issues this command: select library_name,drive_name,online,device_type,element,drive_state,allocated_to,drive_serial from drives Which gives you the drive serial numbers. LIBRARY_NAME: TS3500-COPY DRIVE_NAME: 7857392 ONLINE: YES DEVICE_TYPE: 3592 ELEMENT: 258 DRIVE_STATE: EMPTY ALLOCATED_TO: DRIVE_SERIAL: 07857392 Then when I query for the details of a drive, it issues this command: 11:28:52 AM SUN : QUERY DRIVE TS3500-COPY 78A073E f=d Library Name: TS3500-COPY Drive Name: 78A073E Device Type: 3592 On-Line: Yes Read Formats: 3592-3C,3592-3,3592-2C,3592-2,35- 92C,3592 Write Formats: 3592-3C,3592-3,3592-2C,3592-2 Element: 262 Drive State: EMPTY Volume Name: Allocated to: WWN: 5005076044093B07 Serial Number: 078A073E Last Update by (administrator): OPERATIONS Last Update Date/Time: 09/05/2013 10:36:13 Cleaning Frequency (Gigabytes/ASNEEDED/NONE): NONE which then gives you the WWN. HTH On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu wrote: Sh library shows the ports on the drives already in use. I need to see the information for the unconnected ports. Our IBM CE had told me before that serial numbers and wwpns are software defineable on the drive. Just hoping that there was a way to get to these values without connecting the second ports to a san. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Chavdar Cholev Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:56 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns try sh library On 1/17/2014 16:50, Lee, Gary wrote: Is there a way to determine the wwpn and serial number defined for each fc port on a ts1120 drive without connecting it to a fc switch? I have been through the 3592 operator's guide and have not found anything. I am preparing for a tsm 5.5 to 6.2.5 upgrade. I would like to prerun cables from the second ports on our ts1120 drives to the new fibre channel switch. I also would like to create tsm macros to define drives and paths, and also create udev rules to give the drives persistent device names. I currently use serial number to determine how to name the drives. Doing all this ahead of time wil make the upgrade a lot simpler. Any help is appreciated. -- *Zoltan Forray* TSM Software Hardware Administrator Virginia Commonwealth University UCC/Office of Technology Services zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807 Don't be a phishing victim - VCU and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, social security number or confidential personal information. For more details visit http://infosecurity.vcu.edu/phishing.html
Re: determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns
Never mind. I went back and reread your message and you already have this info. In the past, I have used the CE/FE console on my TS1130 drives to show the ports and assignments/wwn for each (and changed them, as well). But now that we have a new TS3500, it is different since the TS3500 seems to do its own wwn type of assignments. You can see this through the library web interface. On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Zoltan Forray zfor...@vcu.edu wrote: Using TSMManager to query the drives, it issues this command: select library_name,drive_name,online,device_type,element,drive_state,allocated_to,drive_serial from drives Which gives you the drive serial numbers. LIBRARY_NAME: TS3500-COPY DRIVE_NAME: 7857392 ONLINE: YES DEVICE_TYPE: 3592 ELEMENT: 258 DRIVE_STATE: EMPTY ALLOCATED_TO: DRIVE_SERIAL: 07857392 Then when I query for the details of a drive, it issues this command: 11:28:52 AM SUN : QUERY DRIVE TS3500-COPY 78A073E f=d Library Name: TS3500-COPY Drive Name: 78A073E Device Type: 3592 On-Line: Yes Read Formats: 3592-3C,3592-3,3592-2C,3592-2,35- 92C,3592 Write Formats: 3592-3C,3592-3,3592-2C,3592-2 Element: 262 Drive State: EMPTY Volume Name: Allocated to: WWN: 5005076044093B07 Serial Number: 078A073E Last Update by (administrator): OPERATIONS Last Update Date/Time: 09/05/2013 10:36:13 Cleaning Frequency (Gigabytes/ASNEEDED/NONE): NONE which then gives you the WWN. HTH On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Lee, Gary g...@bsu.edu wrote: Sh library shows the ports on the drives already in use. I need to see the information for the unconnected ports. Our IBM CE had told me before that serial numbers and wwpns are software defineable on the drive. Just hoping that there was a way to get to these values without connecting the second ports to a san. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Chavdar Cholev Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:56 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns try sh library On 1/17/2014 16:50, Lee, Gary wrote: Is there a way to determine the wwpn and serial number defined for each fc port on a ts1120 drive without connecting it to a fc switch? I have been through the 3592 operator's guide and have not found anything. I am preparing for a tsm 5.5 to 6.2.5 upgrade. I would like to prerun cables from the second ports on our ts1120 drives to the new fibre channel switch. I also would like to create tsm macros to define drives and paths, and also create udev rules to give the drives persistent device names. I currently use serial number to determine how to name the drives. Doing all this ahead of time wil make the upgrade a lot simpler. Any help is appreciated. -- *Zoltan Forray* TSM Software Hardware Administrator Virginia Commonwealth University UCC/Office of Technology Services zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807 Don't be a phishing victim - VCU and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, social security number or confidential personal information. For more details visit http://infosecurity.vcu.edu/phishing.html -- *Zoltan Forray* TSM Software Hardware Administrator Virginia Commonwealth University UCC/Office of Technology Services zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807 Don't be a phishing victim - VCU and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, social security number or confidential personal information. For more details visit http://infosecurity.vcu.edu/phishing.html
Re: Delete last snapshot?
Harold If it is the only DBS backup use: del volh t=dbs tod=today force=y If you need to delete a specific DB snapshot then refer to the options available for the delete volume history command in the help section. -Rick Adamson -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Vandeventer, Harold [BS] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 10:35 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Delete last snapshot? Is there a way to force a delete of the last database snapshot backup? I have one from several months ago, sitting on hardware we're decommissioning. DEL VOLHIST TYPE=DBS TODATE=TODAY won't do it and the manual says the last won't be deleted. Is there an un-documented command option? Thanks. Harold Vandeventer Systems Programmer State of Kansas - Office of Information Technology Services STE 751-S 910 SW Jackson (785) 296-0631 [Confidentiality notice:] *** This e-mail message, including attachments, if any, is intended for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original message, including all copies, Thank you. ***
Re: Delete last snapshot?
Thanks... the undocumented FORCE=Y is the key. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 10:39 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Delete last snapshot? Harold If it is the only DBS backup use: del volh t=dbs tod=today force=y If you need to delete a specific DB snapshot then refer to the options available for the delete volume history command in the help section. -Rick Adamson -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Vandeventer, Harold [BS] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 10:35 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Delete last snapshot? Is there a way to force a delete of the last database snapshot backup? I have one from several months ago, sitting on hardware we're decommissioning. DEL VOLHIST TYPE=DBS TODATE=TODAY won't do it and the manual says the last won't be deleted. Is there an un-documented command option? Thanks. Harold Vandeventer Systems Programmer State of Kansas - Office of Information Technology Services STE 751-S 910 SW Jackson (785) 296-0631 [Confidentiality notice:] *** This e-mail message, including attachments, if any, is intended for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original message, including all copies, Thank you. ***
Re: TSM 7.1
Tivoli has promised a 10X improvement in dedup speed. (Yes, I've seen that in writing.) Need it. Want it. Would like to know if anybody is seeing it... We also need the 7.1 client for VSphere 5.5 support... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 For those of you upgrading or looking at upgrading, what features/fixes are motivating the decision? We'll probably sit at v6.3.4 for now, so I'm mostly curious. Thanks, -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
Re: TSM 7.1
Hi all, Don't expect 10X improvement from 6.3.4.200, I guess it's pretty the same dedup speed betweeb both versions : [image: Images intégrées 1] ___ *Tristan KELKERMANS* *Ingénieur Stockage Sécurité*+ 33 (0)1 81 08 21 09 | Ligne directe + 33 (0)6 80 36 87 88 | Mobile + 33 (0)1 70 24 73 86 | Fax *ATOO SYSTEMES SERVICES* * 9 bis rue du Général Leclerc - 91230 MONTGERON* www.atoosys.fr | www.tsmservice.fr http://www.tsmservice.fr/ 2014/1/17 Prather, Wanda wanda.prat...@icfi.com Tivoli has promised a 10X improvement in dedup speed. (Yes, I've seen that in writing.) Need it. Want it. Would like to know if anybody is seeing it... We also need the 7.1 client for VSphere 5.5 support... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 For those of you upgrading or looking at upgrading, what features/fixes are motivating the decision? We'll probably sit at v6.3.4 for now, so I'm mostly curious. Thanks, -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
Re: TSM 7.1
Hi all, IBM say 10 times improvements, but what is the reference, legacy 6.1 ? I've read that most of the improvements have been backported to TSM 6.3.4.200. There are some more fixes and improvements with the recent 6.3.4.300. Anynone installed it ? Prather, Wanda wanda.prat...@icfi.com a écrit : Tivoli has promised a 10X improvement in dedup speed. (Yes, I've seen that in writing.) Need it. Want it. Would like to know if anybody is seeing it... We also need the 7.1 client for VSphere 5.5 support... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 For those of you upgrading or looking at upgrading, what features/fixes are motivating the decision? We'll probably sit at v6.3.4 for now, so I'm mostly curious. Thanks, -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine -- Erwann SIMON Envoyé de mon téléphone Android avec K-9 Mail. Excusez la brièveté.
Re: TSM 7.1
That's actually good to hear - did you indeed see significant dedup speed improvements in 6.3.4.200? Someone on this list said 6.3.4.200 made it worse for them. W -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tristan Kelkermans Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:02 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 Hi all, Don't expect 10X improvement from 6.3.4.200, I guess it's pretty the same dedup speed betweeb both versions : [image: Images intégrées 1] ___ *Tristan KELKERMANS* *Ingénieur Stockage Sécurité*+ 33 (0)1 81 08 21 09 | Ligne directe + 33 (0)6 80 36 87 88 | Mobile + 33 (0)1 70 24 73 86 | Fax *ATOO SYSTEMES SERVICES* * 9 bis rue du Général Leclerc - 91230 MONTGERON* www.atoosys.fr | www.tsmservice.fr http://www.tsmservice.fr/ 2014/1/17 Prather, Wanda wanda.prat...@icfi.com Tivoli has promised a 10X improvement in dedup speed. (Yes, I've seen that in writing.) Need it. Want it. Would like to know if anybody is seeing it... We also need the 7.1 client for VSphere 5.5 support... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 For those of you upgrading or looking at upgrading, what features/fixes are motivating the decision? We'll probably sit at v6.3.4 for now, so I'm mostly curious. Thanks, -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
Re: Re: determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns
The serial number of each drive should be the same regardless of which port is in use (as should the WWNN, but not WWPN). If you name the OS devices for the drives based just on serial number, you'll want to revise your naming scheme. On my AIX system, I rename the /dev/rmtdiscovery number devices to /dev/rmt3592librarydrive numberpath where path is a, b, etc. I alternate letters between SAN fabrics. I've done this with multiple generations of 3590 drives with dual SCSI or FC paths (rmt3590foo1a and b), and with multiple generations of 3592 drives with between 2 and 6 FC paths (rmt3592foo1a through 1f, with a, c and e on fabric A and b, d and f on fabric B). This is with the IBM Atape driver and multi-pathing enabled. I haven't played with the IBMtape driver under Linux. I name the drives in TSM the same way, without the rmt prefix or the path suffix. If you're planning to connect/zone the second ports to a second server for your upgrade instead of the server where you're running TSM 5.5, and your udev rules only specify the serial number for persistent naming and not the WWPN, I'd guess you'll be OK using the same udev rules and naming scheme as you're using now. =Dave On 01/17/2014 10:02 AM, Lee, Gary wrote: Sh library shows the ports on the drives already in use. I need to see the information for the unconnected ports. Our IBM CE had told me before that serial numbers and wwpns are software defineable on the drive. Just hoping that there was a way to get to these values without connecting the second ports to a san. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Chavdar Cholev Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:56 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] determining ts1120 serial numbers and wwpns try sh library On 1/17/2014 16:50, Lee, Gary wrote: Is there a way to determine the wwpn and serial number defined for each fc port on a ts1120 drive without connecting it to a fc switch? I have been through the 3592 operator's guide and have not found anything. I am preparing for a tsm 5.5 to 6.2.5 upgrade. I would like to prerun cables from the second ports on our ts1120 drives to the new fibre channel switch. I also would like to create tsm macros to define drives and paths, and also create udev rules to give the drives persistent device names. I currently use serial number to determine how to name the drives. Doing all this ahead of time wil make the upgrade a lot simpler. Any help is appreciated. -- Hello World.David Bronder - Systems Architect Segmentation Fault ITS-EI, Univ. of Iowa Core dumped, disk trashed, quota filled, soda warm. david-bron...@uiowa.edu
Re: TSM 7.1
Hello, I don't know what the baseline for the claimed 10x improvement is. I hope there is an ATS webinar soon to explain it. I did serious amounts of dedup on 6.1 servers. They are now at 6.3.4.2+ and I don't remember a big improvement from the upgrade. This url, http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21452146 says that the big tables and indexes related to dedup are put in separate tablespaces. So I can guess that if you can commit the disk resources to separate them there could be a big improvement. Wanda used to have a sig line about i/o and it is still true. If the separation of tables and indexes accounts for the bulk of the 10x, I don't know how an upgrade from 6.3 will get the dedup performance improvement without some downtime and direct db2 manipulation of the tables and indexes. Regards, Bill Colwell Draper Lab -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:29 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM 7.1 That's actually good to hear - did you indeed see significant dedup speed improvements in 6.3.4.200? Someone on this list said 6.3.4.200 made it worse for them. W -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tristan Kelkermans Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:02 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 Hi all, Don't expect 10X improvement from 6.3.4.200, I guess it's pretty the same dedup speed betweeb both versions : [image: Images intégrées 1] ___ *Tristan KELKERMANS* *Ingénieur Stockage Sécurité*+ 33 (0)1 81 08 21 09 | Ligne directe + 33 (0)6 80 36 87 88 | Mobile + 33 (0)1 70 24 73 86 | Fax *ATOO SYSTEMES SERVICES* * 9 bis rue du Général Leclerc - 91230 MONTGERON* www.atoosys.fr | www.tsmservice.fr http://www.tsmservice.fr/ 2014/1/17 Prather, Wanda wanda.prat...@icfi.com Tivoli has promised a 10X improvement in dedup speed. (Yes, I've seen that in writing.) Need it. Want it. Would like to know if anybody is seeing it... We also need the 7.1 client for VSphere 5.5 support... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 For those of you upgrading or looking at upgrading, what features/fixes are motivating the decision? We'll probably sit at v6.3.4 for now, so I'm mostly curious. Thanks, -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
Re: TSM 7.1
Thanks for the info Bill, although I really hate reading this -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Colwell, William F. Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 Hello, I don't know what the baseline for the claimed 10x improvement is. I hope there is an ATS webinar soon to explain it. I did serious amounts of dedup on 6.1 servers. They are now at 6.3.4.2+ and I don't remember a big improvement from the upgrade. This url, http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21452146 says that the big tables and indexes related to dedup are put in separate tablespaces. So I can guess that if you can commit the disk resources to separate them there could be a big improvement. Wanda used to have a sig line about i/o and it is still true. If the separation of tables and indexes accounts for the bulk of the 10x, I don't know how an upgrade from 6.3 will get the dedup performance improvement without some downtime and direct db2 manipulation of the tables and indexes. Regards, Bill Colwell Draper Lab -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:29 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM 7.1 That's actually good to hear - did you indeed see significant dedup speed improvements in 6.3.4.200? Someone on this list said 6.3.4.200 made it worse for them. W -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tristan Kelkermans Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:02 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 Hi all, Don't expect 10X improvement from 6.3.4.200, I guess it's pretty the same dedup speed betweeb both versions : [image: Images intégrées 1] ___ *Tristan KELKERMANS* *Ingénieur Stockage Sécurité*+ 33 (0)1 81 08 21 09 | Ligne directe + 33 (0)6 80 36 87 88 | Mobile + 33 (0)1 70 24 73 86 | Fax *ATOO SYSTEMES SERVICES* * 9 bis rue du Général Leclerc - 91230 MONTGERON* www.atoosys.fr | www.tsmservice.fr http://www.tsmservice.fr/ 2014/1/17 Prather, Wanda wanda.prat...@icfi.com Tivoli has promised a 10X improvement in dedup speed. (Yes, I've seen that in writing.) Need it. Want it. Would like to know if anybody is seeing it... We also need the 7.1 client for VSphere 5.5 support... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 For those of you upgrading or looking at upgrading, what features/fixes are motivating the decision? We'll probably sit at v6.3.4 for now, so I'm mostly curious. Thanks, -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
Re: Re: TSM 7.1
Hi Harmeet - glad to hear that the 7.1 upgrade has gone smoothly for you. Regarding the following comment: I was hoping I could do more with the op center but the dashboard is making clients go weak at the knees. Can you provide more details about how the Operations Center is affecting your clients? Julius image/gif
Re: TSM 7.1
Our data in the aggregate are only ~25% deduplicatable, and our disk:tape ratio is about 1:200, so unfortunately dedupe has not been a huge win for us. The VSphere support, OTOH, is intriguing. Thanks, On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 04:52:04PM +, Prather, Wanda wrote: Tivoli has promised a 10X improvement in dedup speed. (Yes, I've seen that in writing.) Need it. Want it. Would like to know if anybody is seeing it... We also need the 7.1 client for VSphere 5.5 support... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 For those of you upgrading or looking at upgrading, what features/fixes are motivating the decision? We'll probably sit at v6.3.4 for now, so I'm mostly curious. Thanks, -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
