Re: BartPE w/TSM client question
This isn't a solution to your problem but remember that the system state backup using ntbackup will let you restore the systemstate when the machine name doesn't match. Just in case you can't find a solution for the machine name with BartPE. Schaub, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm doing some testing with BartPE using a TSM plugin, and I need some assistance. I want to be able to restore systemstate, but that requires the machine name to match exactly, and I dont see where I can configure that in Bart. Any helpful ideas? Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, WNI BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 423-535-6574 (desk) 423-785-7347 (cell) Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Active Only Storage Pools for DR
For years I've been asked by my customers if they could have many versions for files in their primary pools while limiting the versions in their copy pools to 1 for disaster recovery. In reading up on the new TSM V5.4 feature Active-Only Storage Pools it looks like this is now a reality. I could create an Active-Only storage pool (limited to backup data, no archive data). This new pool would now become my new destination pool for my backup storage pool command. I could even go one step further and choose to collocate this data by node. The end result would be a set of tapes at DR that would not have to skip over any files when performing a restore. I realize great consideration has to be done before implementating something like this because if the active file is corrupt you wouldn't be able to recover a previous version. Still, in the case of DR I know I have many customers that would accept the risk in order to reduce the amount of data they have offsite and to speed up their restores. I know that you can set a tape in an active only storage pool to offsite so I'm assuming that it will be included with move drm. I still haven't completed testing myself yet though. I'm wondering if anyone out there is considering this as well? - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Fw: Active Only Storage Pools for DR
I am aware of the issues with collocating offsite storage pools. I have a few customers that choose to spend the money and do it that way. If it was a server disaster then they would have the multiple versions of the file in the primary pool. A few of my customers have a hybrid approach for DR where they only collocate their critical servers' copy pool tapes. Some of my customers choose to create backupsets for some of their critical servers. Active only DR tapes may be another approach to this. Of course you can't use those tapes to restore locally like you can with backupsets, but you could choose to create a second storage pool where you copy your critical servers to in addition to the copy pool. No choice should ever be made without thought and consideration I agree. Being that your an IBM'er, what do you think was one of the driving reasons behind treating an active only storage pool like a copy pool? Do you believe the intent was to only create a 2nd set of tapes to take to DR? My bet is that this fell into one of the RPQs that were sent in. I'll tell you this, I've been involved with many real DR tests at both Sterling Forest and Sun Guard. I've see first hand the torture of trying to restore servers from non-collocated offsite tapes. The real irony is that it is in a full site DR where your restoring from copy tapes that you need each nodes data to be on separate tapes. However, as great a need as this is only a few customers actually choose to collocate their copy storage pools due to the increased cost in tape and media in order to accomplish this. I think there are many possibilities here. Nicholas Cassimatis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may want to search the list archives on the issues with collocating an offsite pool - it's not as easy/clean as you may be thinking. While the customer may be OK with a corrupted file at the DR recovery, how happy will they be if that's the one file needed to bring up the key application in the environment? What if the corruption of the file is the reason for the disaster (not all DR's are because of environmental factors, some are declared because of virus/malware/hacker activity, or other unforeseen issues). There are some corners that shouldn't be cut, and that one sounds a bit risky to me. Nick Cassimatis - Forwarded by Nicholas Cassimatis/Raleigh/IBM on 02/15/2007 02:11 PM - ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 02/15/2007 02:02:22 PM: For years I've been asked by my customers if they could have many versions for files in their primary pools while limiting the versions in their copy pools to 1 for disaster recovery. In reading up on the new TSM V5.4 feature Active-Only Storage Pools it looks like this is now a reality. I could create an Active-Only storage pool (limited to backup data, no archive data). This new pool would now become my new destination pool for my backup storage pool command. I could even go one step further and choose to collocate this data by node. The end result would be a set of tapes at DR that would not have to skip over any files when performing a restore. I realize great consideration has to be done before implementating something like this because if the active file is corrupt you wouldn't be able to recover a previous version. Still, in the case of DR I know I have many customers that would accept the risk in order to reduce the amount of data they have offsite and to speed up their restores. I know that you can set a tape in an active only storage pool to offsite so I'm assuming that it will be included with move drm. I still haven't completed testing myself yet though. I'm wondering if anyone out there is considering this as well? - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: q archive question
Is there a reason you don't try the GUI? Gill, Geoffrey L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone wrote a perl process that marks files to be archived and archives them one at a time. Very inefficient when there are literally hundreds of thousands of files that need to be done. Now I'd have chose a different way, and I admit I'm not a programmer nor have I seen the script, but my command line q archive commands have so far returned nothing. I know the process is running because I saw it earlier today and the files are going to the proper pool. The administrator of the Unix box tried to use the GUI to pull a list of archives but according to him it ran 2.5 hours and never returned anything so he killed the session. The question is what command line command will return something for me to see, even if it is a subset, which is really what I am trying to get. Below is a few of the commands I've run without success. I've run them from the directory where the files sit and higher up the tree all with the ANS1092W No files matching search criteria were found message returned. So am I in the wrong path, is the command wrong or do I need to see their job to really figure it out? As a side note, in theory I am logged in as the user that is supposed to be the owner of the files and I am not getting an unauthorized message but since I have no root access I can't try the commands there. dsmc q archive * dsmc q archive /psoft/* -subdir=yes dsmc q archive /psoft/ -subdir=yes dsmc q archive -fromdate=02/15/2007 /psoft/psprd/input/archive/ dsmc q archive -fromdate=02/15/2007 /psoft/psprd/input/archive/* Thanks for the help. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
Re: TSM Client in a MSCS Cluster
The only services that you need to add cluster resources for are the ones that are set to automatic. So if you are using the Client Acceptor to Start the TSM Scheduler then the only TSM cluster resource you need is the Client Acceptor. If you are not then you need the TSM Scheduler and the Client Acceptor. Each cluster group does need its own set of services to be configured on every node in the cluster. They each have their own dsm.opt file and each only backup the drives that are in the same cluster group. This is done because each group can move independently between nodes in the cluster. If you combined more than one cluster group in the backup of another it would work so long as the groups were on the same node. Once they weren't access to the drives in a different group will not be possible and the backup will fail. Also, you need to start using the HTTPPORT option in the dsm.opt file so that each web GUI will use its own port. They can not share. Typically I use 1581 for the C:$ on each node in the cluster. That of course can be 1581 on all of them. Then I start with the first cluster group and make it 1582, then 1583 for the next and so on. All you have to do is put that option in the dsm.opt file and the web client will listen on the correct port. And no the server will accept data on ever NIC that you have configured for that port. So if you use 1582 for the 1st cluter group on NODE1 in the cluster you can use http://NodeIP:1582 or http://GroupIP:1582 to get to the web GUI. This is why they all must have their own port. Don't forget the option CLUSTERNODE YES in the options files that you use for the cluster backups. Also make sure that when you use the setup wizard to create the services for the cluster groups you are setting the cluster name there as well. Karin Dambacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody is it right, that for the TSM Client for every cluster group in a MSCS cluster a scheduler a cad ( for web client) a remote agent ( for web client) is needed? And Web-CAD is listening only to the ip-address, which is configured in the same group as the cad? (So I can use the same port for every cluster group?). Thanks and best regards, Karin Diese e-Mail einschließlich ihrer Anhänge ist vertraulich. Wir bitten, eine fehlgeleitete e-Mail unverzüglich vollständig zu löschen und uns eine Nachricht zukommen zu lassen. Wir haben die e-Mail beim Ausgang auf Viren geprüft; wir raten jedoch wegen der Gefahr auf den Übertragungswegen zu einer Eingangskontrolle. Eine Haftung für Virenfreiheit schließen wir aus. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please immediately delete its contents and notify us. This e-mail was checked for virus contamination before being sent. Nevertheless, it is advisable to check for any contamination occurring during transmission. We cannot accept any liability for virus contamination. - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
Re: Way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore to an alternate location?
The purpose of the Recovery Storage Group was to allow for this restore to happen without overwritting the production data. It sounds like your afraid to use the Recovery Storage group as it was meant to be used. I've done it many times for my customers. Make sure you read the MS doc on how to create a recovery storage group. Then as long as one exists when you use the TDP for Exchange to recover the mailstore file it will go to the recovery storage group. I believe the safty net is that if you don't configure the recovery storage group correctly then you a pop up comes up stating that the Exchange database that you are trying to recovery is online and it asks you if you want to have it stopped. If you get that just click no. Also, as a result it is a good idea to just make sure Exchange is running before you start the restore. Creating the recovery storage group and then adding a mailstore to it is pretty simple. You can then use exmerge to move mail items from the recovery storage group to the production storage group. Orin Rehorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are trying to recover a single mailbox. We don't want to write over the data store and loose current data. We would like to use Exchange 2003 Recovery Storage Group. But we're afraid the restore will write over current data. Our current plan is to set up a temporary Exchange server, restore the TDP back there, and export the mailbox. Our tech support company estimates 20 hours for that job. Your comments would be appreciated. PS. It looks like I need to go to a brick level backup solution, don't you think? Regards, Orin Rehorst -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del Hoobler Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore to an alternate location? Orin, By default, Data Protection for Exchange will restore data back into the live Exchange Server and into the original storage group and database. The Microsoft Exchange Server requires that the database be dismounted for this operation. If that is not what you want, it would help to understand what exactly you are trying to do. Are you trying to restore in to an Exchange 2003 Recovery Storage Group? Are you trying to restore to a different server? Do you just want to restore the .EDB, .STM, and .LOG files so that you can manipulate them with 3rd-party tools? Thanks, Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 10/26/2006 05:14:37 PM: Is there a way to redirect a TSM Data Protection for Exchange restore to an alternate location? When I try a restore TSM first asks to close the datastore. TIA Orin Rehorst - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited Try it today.
Re: 3 layer storage hierarchy
We have customers that use the 3 layer pool. We set a maxsize on both the disk pool and file pool. I have one we just implmented where we have a 500 GB disk pool with a maxsize of 50, then we have a FILEPOOL1 with max size of 1 GB. When our large Exchange database backups kick off they skip over both pools and request a tape mount. Further we've had times where migration kicks off and runs and our backups still don't fail. Andy, is the situation you address one where the DISKPOOL and FILEPOOL1 must fill up completly and aggregates won't move to the next pool? I just bring up the question because I believe if you lay out your disk and file pool with the right max size and migration threshholds this won't be an issue. K Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Remco, Your observations are correct. If the target storage pool (DISKPOOL) cannot fulfill the request, then we'll try the next storage pool (FILEPOOL). But if the second request cannot be fulfilled, then TSM does not take it any further. This is a limitation that we are aware of, but at this time there are no plans to address it. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 10/13/2006 02:17:58 PM: Hi all, I've been playing with a 3 layer storage hierarchy; random access disk, sequential disk (file) and finally tape. Or more visual: DISKPOOL (maxsize 2G) | +--- FILEPOOL (no maxsize) | +--- TAPEPOOL Now, I've noticed that when the diskpool is full, or maxsize is exceeded, clients will backup to filepool as expected. But they will never fall through to tape, even if the filesize is over 2G and the filepool is full, or both diskpool and filepool are full. Yes, there are plenty available scratch tapes, nor is maxscratch exceeded on the tapepool. I've assigned about 80 volumes to filepool, no scratch volumes. This all is on TSM 5.3.3.1 on AIX, but I've noticed this on earlier versions as well. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten http://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 3000 Fax. +31 20 668 3167 PGP Key fingerprint = 6367 DFE9 5CBC 0737 7D16 B3F6 048A 02BF DC93 94EC I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Windows 2003 Encryption
I read that APAR but it makes it sound like if the computer name is the same then the key will work. So if you exported the key and then imported it on a server that you were recovering so the name would be the same would it work then? Or is more than the GUID or something like that used which is unique above and beyond the computer name? Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you cannot just export/import the registry key. See the README file for the 5.3.4.x clients and look for the bullet titled ENCRYPTKEY SAVE requirements. Also look up APAR IC48782. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 10/08/2006 08:44:35 PM: Thank you for the info. I'll look into the MS regedit for exporting/importing and see if the client wants to do this or if they will just keep the password phrase used somewhere and just use that if need be. TSM_User wrote: To your question you only need the value you typed to generate the key the first time. You will be prompted to type it again and it will then encrypt the key again and store it in the registry. Entries in the registry can be exported and then imported on another server. Exporting the keys from the registry using the MS's regedit on one system and then importing them somewhere else may work but I think Andy may need to chime in on that. Roger Silva wrote: Hi, My client has asked me if there is a way to export the EncryptKey but I have not found any documention talking about this. The reason for this I assume would be in case of a system crash. I know the EncryptKey is kept on both the client side in the registry and I believe on the server side as well. If the system was to crash, do you still only need the Encryption Password to restore the data? Would this be just as if you did not use the SAVE option and instead you used the PROMPT option? Thanks again for your info. Roger - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: Windows 2003 Encryption
To your question you only need the value you typed to generate the key the first time. You will be prompted to type it again and it will then encrypt the key again and store it in the registry. Entries in the registry can be exported and then imported on another server. Exporting the keys from the registry using the MS's regedit on one system and then importing them somewhere else may work but I think Andy may need to chime in on that. Roger Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My client has asked me if there is a way to export the EncryptKey but I have not found any documention talking about this. The reason for this I assume would be in case of a system crash. I know the EncryptKey is kept on both the client side in the registry and I believe on the server side as well. If the system was to crash, do you still only need the Encryption Password to restore the data? Would this be just as if you did not use the SAVE option and instead you used the PROMPT option? Thanks again for your info. Roger - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: Windows 2003 Encryption
Roger, I believe the encryption key for the regular BA Client is not kept seperate on the TSM server. Only the Tivoli Data Protection (TDP) software, which supports transparent encryption, store the key on the TSM server instead of in the local registry. Also for them you are never prompted to enter a key yourself they automatically generate one. Today transparent encryption only works for the TDP software. (Question for Andy: When will this option become part of the BA Client?). So because the BA Client does not store the encryption key on the TSM server you are prompted for it when you perform a DR of a server to a new server because the key is not located in its registry. One thing you could do is choose to encrypt the client data but not the client OS drive. Then you would be able to perform a system recovery without being promted for the key. So long as you can successfully recovery the system the encryption key will be back in the registry and you should not be prompted for the Key. With this option you do have some data on a tape that is not encrypted. Still with transparrent encryption so long as somecan restore your TSM DB they can restore your data without being promted for the key. Maybe an encryption option for the TSM DB would be a good idea? K Roger Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, I changed the parameters per you email and it worked. Thank you very much. I do, however, have one more question. My client has asked me if there is a way to export the EncryptKey but I have not found any documention talking about this. The reason for this I assume would be in case of a system crash. I know the EncryptKey is kept on both the client in the registry and I believe on the server side as well. If the system was to crash, do you still only need the Encryption Password to restore the data? Would this be just as if you did not use the SAVE option and instead you used the PROMPT option? Thanks again for your info. Roger Andrew Raibeck wrote: It isn't the encryption of one file that is the issue, it's the syntax of the include.encrypt line. They way it currently reads: Include.Encryption D:\1TSMTEST\test spreadsheet.xls\...\* says to encrypt all files in the D:\1TSMTEST\test spreadsheet.xls directory. I also just noticed you said include.encryption instead of include.encrypt. Try: include.encrypt d:\1tsmtest\test spreadsheet.xls Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Roger Silva wrote on 10/05/2006 02:11:36 PM: Andy, The main directory in D:\1TSMTEST, spreadsheet.xls is just a file within that directory that we are trying to do a test encryption on. Let me also state that the TSM Software is installed on the C: drive along with all the other software, the D: drive is the Data drive and only stores the data needed to be backed up. Ultimately, the client wants ALL-LOCAL drives (C: and D:) Encrypted and backed up. I will make the fix the my exclude.backup line. Thanks. I don't know if only encrypting one file is the issue or not? Rog Andrew Raibeck wrote: Do you actually have a directory called test spreadsheet.xls ? Probably not contributing to the issue, but your exclude.backup statement should be corrected to read: exclude.backup *:\...\* Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm. com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 10/05/2006 01:33:08 PM: My client is running Windows 2003 client OS Version 5.02 and our TSM server is 5.1.6.3 We are trying to use the TSM Encryption Options but we are running into some issues. We have the Encryption lines in the dsm.opt file: ENCRYPTIONTYPE AES128 ENCRYPTKEY SAVE Exclude.Backup *\...\...\* INCLUDE D:\1TSMTEST\...\* Include.Encryption D:\1TSMTEST\test spreadsheet.xls\...\* But when the client invokes a backup, it does not ask for the encryption password the first time. Is this version of windows with the version of the TSM server we are running not supported or is there some other fix needed in the dsm.opt file? Thanks, Roger P.S. I have been successful with this exercise using Windows XP client OS version 5.01 and TSM Version 5.1.6.3
Re: TS3310 - Library Configuration - Help Required
Are you trying to label and LTO1 tape. A TS3310 only supports LTO3 drives. LTO3 drives can not write to LTO1 media. Or, even if the tapes are LTO3 do they have LTO1 labels on them. TSM will see the L1 on the tape label and being that the LTO3 drives can't write to an L1 tape you can get the error no drives are available. K Pranav Parikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We are in a process of upgrading our current TSM5.2 setup. Our current enviornment consist of following: 1. TSM5.2 on x346 (Win2K /Sp4) 2. 3582 SCSI Single drive Gen2 Autoloader 3. BA CLient - 3 , TDP for Lotus Domino -1 4. 100 MBps Network. Lan based backup Our new enviornment once set will look like: 1. TSM 5.3.2 on HPBL20 Blade (Win2K3 / SP1). HP Blade consist of HBA QLA2312 2. TS3310 with 2 Gen3 fiber drives connected to Baracoda SAN Switch 3. All clients migrated on Blade center 4. LAN Free Agents for existing clients. I am getting following error while lableing the volume. The storage device i.e library, drive and device configured using define command and path shows status good (Green). Error: Date/Time : 9/28/06 2:20:09 PM GMT+05:30 Message : ANR2017I Administrator ADMIN issued command: LABEL libvol LTCLIB search=BULK labelsource=barcode overwrite=YES checkin=SCRATCH WAITTIME=0 (SESSION: 112) Date/Time : 9/28/06 2:20:09 PM GMT+05:30 Message : ANR0984I Process 13 for LABEL LIBVOLUME started in the BACKGROUND at 14:20:09.(SESSION: 112, PROCESS: 13) Date/Time : 9/28/06 2:20:09 PM GMT+05:30 Message : ANR8799I LABEL LIBVOLUME: Operation for library LTCLIB started as process 13.(SESSION: 112, PROCESS: 13) Date/Time : 9/28/06 2:20:19 PM GMT+05:30 Message : ANR8447E No drives are currently available in library LTCLIB.(SESSION: 112, PROCESS: 13) Date/Time : 9/28/06 2:20:19 PM GMT+05:30 Message : ANR8802E LABEL LIBVOLUME process 13 for library LTCLIB failed.(SESSION: 112, PROCESS: 13) Date/Time : 9/28/06 2:20:19 PM GMT+05:30 Message : ANR0985I Process 13 for LABEL LIBVOLUME running in the BACKGROUND completed with completion state FAILURE at 14:20:19.(SESSION: 112, PROCESS: 13) Attached is the various logs which may be helpful to get furhter info on the setup. Request you to suggest if any what can be the problem with the configuration. Defining path communicate with library / drives and detects serial nos. Regards Pranav - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: BMR - unlike hardware
Also note that R2 is not an SP, it is simply an upgrade on top of SP1. So, while I would still start with a recovery server at R2 if that was what I was recoverying you can not slipstream R2 into a bootal CD. As such the inplace upgrade process will need to be run with a Win2K3 SP1 slipstreamed CD. Leigh Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My original post regarding W2K BMR's was from memory and I recalled for some reason that the system files weren't copied back immediately after the system_object restore. I thought that this was because they were locked/owned by the OS. I checked this morning and realised that this is not the case. However, it may well have been to do with the way W2K replaces files on reboot and Windows File Protection. See posting http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg67895.html In the case of W2K3, I think that VSS and System File Protection (SFP) come into play. I also think that the differences in experiences may be accounted for by determining what version of W2K3 was being restored (ie W2K3 initial release or W2K3 SP1/W2K3 R2). The following article probably gives a better explanation. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vss/base/backing_up_and_restoring_system_state_under_vss.asp I still think that with either W2K or W2K3, if you make copies of the system files before restore, you can then copy them back after the system_object or system_state restore. If you encounter problems on reboot, then use MS Recovery Console to copy back your original system files. Finally, if all else fails, attempt an in-place recovery. Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schaub, Steve Sent: 28 September 2006 11:09 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [SPAM: 9.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware This is interesting, since my experience has been that we have had more success with W2K than W2K3 (using the copy-out/restore/copy-back you describe). I always seem to run into a brick wall with the way W2K3 does it's replace-on-reboot for system files being restored. Maybe I'm trying to copy back too early or too late - can you provide some detail on what is working for you? Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, WNI BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 423-535-6574 (desk) 423-785-7347 (cell) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware While the recovery console could be used you can also choose to copy the files out, perform the restore and then copy the files back before you reboot. You only need to use the RC if you forget to copy the files back before you reboot. I've posted the use of the in-place upgrade many times to ensure the new hardware on the new server is properly enumerated. Still, I always use the approach of copying out the files and then back in after the restore first. With windows 2000 I've found this works about 80% of the time, with Windows 2003 almost 95% of the time. For the time when it doesn't work the in-place upgrade does. For that process you do not have to use the RC at all to copy any files first. Kyle Leigh Reed wrote: Geoff In my mind, the MS Recovery Console is the key to achieving successful restores back to dissimilar h/w in the Wintel area. After installing your vanilla MS OS (that is to be restored over), you need to take a copy of the OS files that are specific to your h/w. Then, if they are overwritten with different versions by your restore, you can put them back with the RC upon reboot. These files can be found in Device Manager-- Computer and then under the driver details of the Properties of your processor(s). For Windows2000, they are as follows c:\winnt\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntdll.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe c:\winnt\system32\win32k.sys c:\winnt\system32\winsrv.dll For Windows2003, they are as follows c:\windows\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe If after you complete the restore of your system drive and you reboot and get a blue screen or worse, all is not lost. The Microsoft Recovery Console is an extremely useful tool. From the RC, you can copy the above original files from a floppy or the root of the system drive to the system32 directory. Also, the RC will enable you to disable devices or services on boot. One important point to note, the RC requires the LOCAL administrator password to be entered before it can be used, therefore ensure that you know the local passwords to all your machines. The following IBM Technote is also very useful for Wintel system restores http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=116481 2uid=swg21164812loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Above all else, the key
Re: BMR - unlike hardware
While the recovery console could be used you can also choose to copy the files out, perform the restore and then copy the files back before you reboot. You only need to use the RC if you forget to copy the files back before you reboot. I've posted the use of the in-place upgrade many times to ensure the new hardware on the new server is properly enumerated. Still, I always use the approach of copying out the files and then back in after the restore first. With windows 2000 I've found this works about 80% of the time, with Windows 2003 almost 95% of the time. For the time when it doesn't work the in-place upgrade does. For that process you do not have to use the RC at all to copy any files first. Kyle Leigh Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geoff In my mind, the MS Recovery Console is the key to achieving successful restores back to dissimilar h/w in the Wintel area. After installing your vanilla MS OS (that is to be restored over), you need to take a copy of the OS files that are specific to your h/w. Then, if they are overwritten with different versions by your restore, you can put them back with the RC upon reboot. These files can be found in Device Manager-- Computer and then under the driver details of the Properties of your processor(s). For Windows2000, they are as follows c:\winnt\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntdll.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe c:\winnt\system32\win32k.sys c:\winnt\system32\winsrv.dll For Windows2003, they are as follows c:\windows\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe If after you complete the restore of your system drive and you reboot and get a blue screen or worse, all is not lost. The Microsoft Recovery Console is an extremely useful tool. From the RC, you can copy the above original files from a floppy or the root of the system drive to the system32 directory. Also, the RC will enable you to disable devices or services on boot. One important point to note, the RC requires the LOCAL administrator password to be entered before it can be used, therefore ensure that you know the local passwords to all your machines. The following IBM Technote is also very useful for Wintel system restores http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=116481 2uid=swg21164812loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Above all else, the key to restoring back to dissimilar h/w is practice. Where possible, try to trial restore as many of your Wintel systems back to unlike h/w. I know it is obvious, but it is far easier to solve any arising issues in a DR trial environment, than at 3am with somebody looking over your shoulder, asking every 5 minutes when will it be ready ? Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: 23 September 2006 00:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [SPAM: 4.000] Re: [ADSM-L] BMR - unlike hardware What kind of system are you concerned with? I'm looking for some basic info on all platforms anyone has experience with, Windows being the biggest concern. After hearing some remarks this morning in a meeting concerning bringing back a server from scratch, and how long it took, I'm flabbergasted. Then again nobody called me to ask for help either. To add to this are there any issues anyone is aware of for servers that have been virtualized but still use TSM for their backups? Would the process be the same? Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: BMR - unlike hardware
Recovery of Windows to dissimilar hardware is possible. Here are some keys. 1) There is a process called an In-Place upgrade. This is a process that is run by booting to windows installation media after a server has been recovered. Then you go through the optoins as if to install Windows. However, after you press F8 to agree to the licenese agreement a new page will be displayed that will say Windows is installed at C:\Windows Do you want to repair it? You then need to press R and it will run through an install that will re-enumerate all the haredware but leave all the hardware in tact. Effectivly the restore was only used bring down the software compenents of the system and registry after the In-Place upgrade is done. 2) When performing a restore of a Windows server, especially to different hardware, it is very important that the server be loaded with the exact same service pack. So if you are recovering Windows 2003 Sp1 you need to build a server with Windows 2003 SP1. Then you start the restore, then finally you must have a CD with SP1 slipstreamed into installation image on the CD. Here is one link you that refers to the in-place upgrade. Go to this link and search for in-place. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;263532Product=win2000 Also, if you need help creating a Windows bootable CD with the service pack slipstreamed into it here is a link to nLite http://www.nliteos.com/. That is just one of the many things this product can do. I have used this process to restore to completely different sytem board types (ACPI to MPS). Completly different vendors, DELL to IBM, IBM to HP and HP to DELL. Different CPU's, single to dual, quad to single. It works every time because the in-place upgrade basically ensures that settings for the current hardware replaces all the settings in the restored system and registry for the old hardware. Gill, Geoffrey L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As it relates to trying to restore a system to unlike hardware what sort of results does anyone have they might like to share. I've got some folks wanting to push this requirement on me and, since I have never tested this, I'm not comfortable with it. Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: 3584 library sharing followup
On one of the instance you will delete the library and then create a new shared library. When you run the audit library command on a library client it updates the library manager updates it's volhist to show that the volumes in its library are remote and not belong to the other instnace. We had a server that we wanted to retire but it had been the library manager. We simply made one of the other library clients the manager. Due to the fact that this new instance had no information about any of the library clients we found we only had to run the audit library command on all the library clients after they were pointed to the new library manager. Seems like this same approch would work for you. Kathleen M Hallahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last week, Bill Boyer posted a message (which I no longer have) about splitting a database and library sharing. and ownership of tapes. I saw one response suggesting exporting and importing the data, but nothing else. Did anyone ever come up with other ideas on this? I'm actually getting ready to do something similar, splitting a very large TSM database by loading a duplicate instance onto the same AIX server and then selectively deleting from each. I'm presuming that using the TSM library sharing function will create the same ownership issue for us as Bill is/was experiencing. There is far too much data for export/import to be practical. In our case, all of the tapes for one (legacy) instance will reside outside of the library unless needed for a specific restore, and no new data will be added. Can I leave the library definitions intact in the second instance, and just make sure the two systems never have the same drive online at the same time? I would then check tapes into the legacy instance of TSM when restores were required. As this is old data, it would only happen on an occasional basis. We're on TSM 5.2.3.1 on AIX 5.2, using a 3584 with LTO2 drives. Thanks! _ Kathleen Hallahan Freddie Mac - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
Why doesn't the TSM client support transparent encryption
I have a customer that requires all data to be encrypted. We started with the file servers and that was easy enough. I just made sure to add the encryptiontype and include.encrpyt entries to the dsm.opt file. I then backed up a file and was promted for the key. We typed the key and everything is encrypted. Having to type this key for every server is a real pain and it eliminates the possibilty of completly automating the install. Then we started working with encryption for the TDP for SQL. I see that it uses the option enableclientencryptkey which actually generates a key automatically and stores it on the TSM server. It also looks like that is a function of the API. So, why in the heck can't I do the same thing with the real BA Client. I'd like it to just automatically generate a key as well. Then we can automate all the installs, never have to type a key and the data will also be encrypted. Unless I'm missing something and you can use that option with the BA Client but there is zero mention of enableclientencryptkey in any of the BA client manuals. Now, I added the option to the BAClient dsm.opt. It started without erroring. I ran q opt and it shows that it is set. From other reading I this is there for the VSS backup capabilities. Anyway, even with the option set in that dsm.opt file I still am prompted to provide a key. Kyle - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Why doesn't the TSM client support transparent encryption
Sorry, but Encryptkey is not what I'm looking for. Encryptkey has two settings SAVE (the default) and PROMPT. This value is not used to suply transparrent enctryption. It is simply used to tell the TSM client software whether to store the encrypted password in the registry. Even with save you still are prompted one time where you have to manually enter the password. It is then stored in the local clients registry and not the TSM server. Also, a key is not generated for you. Transparrent encryption with the API the key is generated for you and it is stored on the TSM server. Below is from the client help: 1.3.39 Encryptkey The encryptkey option specifies whether to save the encryption key password locally when performing a backup-archive operation or whether to prompt for the encryption key password. The encryption key password is saved to the Windows Registry in encrypted format. Tivoli Storage Manager client encryption allows you to enter a value of up to 63 characters in length. This encryption password needs to be confirmed when encrypting the file for backup, and also needs to be entered when performing restores of encrypted files. Note: For local backupset restore of encrypted files, you cannot use a saved encryption key password. You are always prompted for the encryption key. + Caution ---+ If the encryption key is not saved in the Windows Registry, and you have forgotten the key, your data will be unrecoverable. ++ If you set the encryptkey option to save, you are only prompted the first time you perform an operation. Thereafter, Tivoli Storage Manager does not prompt for the password. The Web client saves the encryption key password in the Windows Registry. If you do not save the encryption key password, you are prompted for the initial encryption key password when you begin encryption processing. You can encrypt the data that is sent to the server during a backup or archive operation using standard encryption. If you use the encryption feature to encrypt your data during backup or archive, you must have the encryption key in order to restore or retrieve the data. If the encryption key is not available on the archive, you must have the encryption key in order to restore or retrieve the data. If the encryption key is not available on the client machine (via the encryptkey option) and you forgot the encryption key, then the data cannot be restored or retrieved under any circumstances. Supported Clients This option is valid for all Windows clients. Options File Place this option in the client options file (dsm.opt). You can set this option on the Authorization tab, Encryption Key Password section of the Preferences editor. Syntax .-save---. -ENCRYPTKey-++--- '-prompt-' Parameters save Specifies that you want to save the encryption key password to the local Windows Registry. If you set the encryptkey option to save, you are only prompted the first time you perform an operation. Thereafter, Tivoli Storage Manager does not prompt for the encryption password. This is the default. prompt Tivoli Storage Manager prompts for the encryption password for each backup, archive, and restore operation. Examples Options file: encryptkey prompt Richard Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check the value of your client ENCryptkey option, which is supposed to provide what you seek. - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: Win2003 Full system restore
There is no need to install win2K first. Simply use an application like nLite http://www.nliteos.com/ to create a windows installation CD that will install Windows 2003 into C:\winnt\. Creating the CD from your existing Windows 2003 CD is much faster than installing two OS's at the time of restore. You can use nLite do do many other things too, like slipstream the service pack into the installation. You will need that as well if you are trying to recovery a Windows 2003 that had SP1 installed on it to dissimilar hardware. Schaub, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And of course the gotcha in restoring W2k3 machines that have been upgraded from W2k is that you also have to follow that same path in DR - install a W2k and then upgrade to W2k3 before restoring, otherwise your systemstate restore will never work. Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, WNI BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 423-535-6574 (desk) 423-785-7347 (cell) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Stapleton Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Win2003 Full system restore ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 09/05/2006 10:09:14 AM: For 2003, you need to be running at least client 5.2.3, or it isn't going to work. TSM 5.3.2 is better. Look in the client manual under ASR. Works like a champ. ...except if having a DHCP server on the desired network segment is a problem. ASR restore will NOT work without one, and that's an issue in many server rooms. You can do a complete system rebuild without the ASR process. Basically (and this is just a skeleton): 1. Install the Windows OS, including the service pack present at the time of the failure. (You don't have to worry about the hotfixes and patches.) Get the network card going. 2. Install the TSM client used at the time of failure. Configure it properly. 3. Restore all non-systemdisk (usually C:) drives with TSM. 4. Restore the C: drive. DO NOT REBOOT EVEN IF ASKED TO. 5. Restore the systemservices. DO NOT REBOOT EVEN IF ASKED TO. 6. Restore the systemstate. 7. NOW, reboot the system. You should be back in business. Please, please drill this process. You should practice disaster recovery before you HAVE to. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) US Bank MR Backup and Recovery Management -- Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. == Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
TSM Client Encryption question
The default setting for ENCryptkey is Save which in Windows will store the encryption key in the registry. Lets say I have a file server where C:\ is the OS and D:\ is all my file data. I then use include.encrypt D:\...\* so that only the data on D:\ is encrypted. Then I perform a full server recovery using C:\ and systemstate. I'm would assume that the restored registry will now have the encryption key in it. As a result I would not be prompted for the encryption key when I then try to restore the D:\. I realize that this approach effectively means that someone could get our tapes, restore the TSM database, restore a server and then restore our data. However, if the reason for using encryption was so that the data would not be readable on the tape should a single tape fall into the wrong hands then this may be an approach that would help reduce the risk of loosing the encrypt key itself. Now, before I get flamed I realize full well that key management when using encryption is paramount. I'm just trying to wrap my mind around all the options here. For those of you who have begun implementing encryption into your backup strategy what have you done for key management. I know questions like this have been posted in the past but I want to see if there are any new ideas. - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Storage Agent Upgrade on AIX caused LANFree to slow way down
We did the same thing with both backups. Both of them went faster but the OS backup went from 30 GB/hr to over 130 GB/hr. The DB backup went from about 45 GB/hr to around 65 GB/hr. K Robert Ouzen Ouzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi So if I understand when you change the OS lanfree backup with LANFREECOMMMETHOD of SharedMem the backup was FASTER , did you do the same with the DB2 or still LANFREECOMMMETHOD of TCPIP Regards Robert Ouzen -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 7:07 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Storage Agent Upgrade on AIX caused LANFree to slow way down Curious that I'm replying to my own post but using the LANFREECOMMMETHOD of SharedMem the 120 GB of OS data just backed up in 57 minutes. The 60 GB of DB2 data backed up in 54 minutes. So looks like the V5.3.3.0 storage agent is more affected by the use of SharedMem over TCPIP. Or, something else changed around the time of the upgrade to break the usage of TCP/IP for the LANFREE backup. I'd still be interested to know if anyone else has seen this behavior. TSM_User wrote: Guys, We had a TSM server and TSM Storage Agent combination of V5.1.1.0. The TSM client on the AIX server is at V5.1.7.0. This AIX server is running DB2. We have a Windows 2003 TSM server and a 3494 tape library with two Fibre attached 3590 drives. Anyway the OS backup on this server has 120 GB and was backing up in 54 minutes. The DB2 backup on the server had never been configured to run LANFree (don't know why) but backed up 60 GB in 1 hour and 45 minutes over the LAN (10/100 NIC). We upgrade the TSM server to V5.3.3.3 which went without any issues. We then upgraded the TSM storage agent to V5.3.3.0 (they like to not put any patches on this very important AIX DB2 server unless it is absolutly necessary). According to the doc you can use a V5.3.3.0 storage agent with a V5.3.3.3 TSM server without any problems. Now the storage agent backup of the OS runs in 4 hours and 30 minutes. Yes, we are absolutly sure it is still going LANFree. We can see this when we route the q sess command to the storage agent. We also so that the LANFree bytes transferred shows that the whole 120 GB is going LANFree. We did put ENABLELANFREE YES in the dsm.sys that the DB2 agent was in. The DB backup is not completing in 1 hour and 15 minutes. We would like it to be faster but it is faster than when it ran over the LAN so people are happy with it. After this upgrade we gained 30 minutes on the DB2 backup but we lost 3 hours and 30 minutes on the OS backup. The dsm.sys files were setup to use lanfreecommmethod of TCPIP. That was good with V5.1.1.0. However, seeing that the client and storage agent are on the same server I changed the method to SharedMem to see how much of a difference that makes. So after that book, has anyone else experienced a slow down in Storage Agent speed after an upgrade. I've went through many and this is a first for me. Oh, no errors of any kind in any of the logs. - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Storage Agent Upgrade on AIX caused LANFree to slow way down
Guys, We had a TSM server and TSM Storage Agent combination of V5.1.1.0. The TSM client on the AIX server is at V5.1.7.0. This AIX server is running DB2. We have a Windows 2003 TSM server and a 3494 tape library with two Fibre attached 3590 drives. Anyway the OS backup on this server has 120 GB and was backing up in 54 minutes. The DB2 backup on the server had never been configured to run LANFree (don't know why) but backed up 60 GB in 1 hour and 45 minutes over the LAN (10/100 NIC). We upgrade the TSM server to V5.3.3.3 which went without any issues. We then upgraded the TSM storage agent to V5.3.3.0 (they like to not put any patches on this very important AIX DB2 server unless it is absolutly necessary). According to the doc you can use a V5.3.3.0 storage agent with a V5.3.3.3 TSM server without any problems. Now the storage agent backup of the OS runs in 4 hours and 30 minutes. Yes, we are absolutly sure it is still going LANFree. We can see this when we route the q sess command to the storage agent. We also so that the LANFree bytes transferred shows that the whole 120 GB is going LANFree. We did put ENABLELANFREE YES in the dsm.sys that the DB2 agent was in. The DB backup is not completing in 1 hour and 15 minutes. We would like it to be faster but it is faster than when it ran over the LAN so people are happy with it. After this upgrade we gained 30 minutes on the DB2 backup but we lost 3 hours and 30 minutes on the OS backup. The dsm.sys files were setup to use lanfreecommmethod of TCPIP. That was good with V5.1.1.0. However, seeing that the client and storage agent are on the same server I changed the method to SharedMem to see how much of a difference that makes. So after that book, has anyone else experienced a slow down in Storage Agent speed after an upgrade. I've went through many and this is a first for me. Oh, no errors of any kind in any of the logs. - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: Storage Agent Upgrade on AIX caused LANFree to slow way down
Curious that I'm replying to my own post but using the LANFREECOMMMETHOD of SharedMem the 120 GB of OS data just backed up in 57 minutes. The 60 GB of DB2 data backed up in 54 minutes. So looks like the V5.3.3.0 storage agent is more affected by the use of SharedMem over TCPIP. Or, something else changed around the time of the upgrade to break the usage of TCP/IP for the LANFREE backup. I'd still be interested to know if anyone else has seen this behavior. TSM_User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, We had a TSM server and TSM Storage Agent combination of V5.1.1.0. The TSM client on the AIX server is at V5.1.7.0. This AIX server is running DB2. We have a Windows 2003 TSM server and a 3494 tape library with two Fibre attached 3590 drives. Anyway the OS backup on this server has 120 GB and was backing up in 54 minutes. The DB2 backup on the server had never been configured to run LANFree (don't know why) but backed up 60 GB in 1 hour and 45 minutes over the LAN (10/100 NIC). We upgrade the TSM server to V5.3.3.3 which went without any issues. We then upgraded the TSM storage agent to V5.3.3.0 (they like to not put any patches on this very important AIX DB2 server unless it is absolutly necessary). According to the doc you can use a V5.3.3.0 storage agent with a V5.3.3.3 TSM server without any problems. Now the storage agent backup of the OS runs in 4 hours and 30 minutes. Yes, we are absolutly sure it is still going LANFree. We can see this when we route the q sess command to the storage agent. We also so that the LANFree bytes transferred shows that the whole 120 GB is going LANFree. We did put ENABLELANFREE YES in the dsm.sys that the DB2 agent was in. The DB backup is not completing in 1 hour and 15 minutes. We would like it to be faster but it is faster than when it ran over the LAN so people are happy with it. After this upgrade we gained 30 minutes on the DB2 backup but we lost 3 hours and 30 minutes on the OS backup. The dsm.sys files were setup to use lanfreecommmethod of TCPIP. That was good with V5.1.1.0. However, seeing that the client and storage agent are on the same server I changed the method to SharedMem to see how much of a difference that makes. So after that book, has anyone else experienced a slow down in Storage Agent speed after an upgrade. I've went through many and this is a first for me. Oh, no errors of any kind in any of the logs. - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: TSM configuration manager
The problem is that when you nodes defined to a domain just moving a new domain from another profile into place can not be done. On the managed server you can create a new domain (temporarily). Then at the domain level you can issue the move nodes to another domain and select the temp domain. Then you can update the profile to bring down the domain from your configuration manager. Lastly, you will have to move the nodes from the temp domain back to the STANDARD domain. From that point forward any changes to the domain on the configuration manager will be replicated. The only problem is that once you move nodes out of domain you loose their schedule associations. So it is a good idea to run the q event * * to a file first so that you can recreate the schedule associations after you move the nodes back. Kyle John Bremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I want to set up TSM configuration manager. I have several AIX 5.1 TSM servers 5.3.2. I have defined a profile on one server, and defined a profile association to this configuration profile for domains, using our STANDARD domain as a test to propagate additions and changes to subscribers. Configuration manager is set On to this server: tsm: DSMSERV1q profile f=d Configuration manager: DSMSERV1 Profile name: TSM SERVER PROFILE Locked?: No Description: TSM Master Server administrators: Policy domains: STANDARD Administrative command schedules: Server Command Scripts: Client Option Sets: Servers: Server Groups: On a second server I have defined subscription to the master: tsm: DSMSERV2q subscription f=d Configuration Profile name Last update manager date/time DSMSERV1 TSM SERVER 08/16/06 11:59:40 PROFILE This server has Allow Replace yes. On configuration manager I run: notify subscribers and it fails at the subscriber end: 08/17/06 08:21:53 ANR0408I Session 75279 started for server DSMSERV1 (AIX-RS/6000) (Tcp/Ip) for configuration management. (SESSION: 75279) 08/17/06 08:21:54 ANR0409I Session 75279 ended for server DSMSERV1 (AIX-RS/6000). (SESSION: 75279) 08/17/06 08:21:54 ANR0408I Session 75280 started for server DSMSERV1 (AIX-RS/6000) (Tcp/Ip) for configuration management. (SESSION: 73099) 08/17/06 08:21:54 ANR3152I Configuration refresh started with configuration manager DSMSERV1. (SESSION: 73099) 08/17/06 08:21:54 ANR3350W Locally defined domain STANDARD contains at least one node and cannot be replaced with a definition from the configuration manager. (SESSION: 73099) 08/17/06 08:21:54 ANR3171E Configuration refresh with configuration manager DSMSERV1 had to skip processing for one or more objects. (SESSION: 73099) 08/17/06 08:21:54 ANR0409I Session 75280 ended for server DSMSERV1 (AIX-RS/6000). (SESSION: 73099) 08/17/06 08:21:54 ANR3151E Configuration refresh failed with configuration manager DSMSERV1. (SESSION: 73099) Stupid question, but should I not expect the configuration manager to be able to update existing domains, etc. across my complex? Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong, or if I have the wrong expectations? Thank you. John Bremer __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Encryption - logging
Don't forget if that is the desire that the web gui runs under the local system account (in windows land) and it may have the ability to restore another users file to a different location. So you may not want to use the TSM web client feature on that particular server. Henrik Wahlstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the answer and good point, btw it´s not my file, it is some HR data... The customer is worried about who can restore data/alter the logs if we are able to produce them etc etc. //Henrik -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen S. Rout Sent: 16. august 2006 16:29 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Encryption - logging On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:44:59 +0200, Henrik Wahlstedt said: So my questions are: Is the possible to do automated encrypted backups but limit the restore functionality to thoose who knows encryption password? The only people who can restore are people who can log into your machine, and they can only restore files they can write. I'm confused about why I shouldn't be able to restore one of my files. I'm poking that question because it feels like you're asking TSM to enforce a security restriction you haven't been able to enforce locally on the box. Trying to prevent [EMAIL PROTECTED] from restoring something sounds like a tall order. How do I monitor restores on the TSM server in good way. I haven't found a happy method. Consider, the logging there could be Really Extensive. I don't want to list somebody's 3-million filenames in my TSM serverlog. - Allen S. Rout --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Are LVSA cache files temporary?
Steve, use this link http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html and in the search box type LVSA and hit search. This search produced many documents that explain how LVSA works which may be of interest. In addition problems that have been encountered are reported as well. Schaub, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I can see, but since I sent this I was pulled into a trouble-shooting session with a group of new servers that had LVSA running, and we had to remove it. LVSA looks suspiciously like the smoking gun that has been causing these machines to lock up. Actually, it appears to be lack of cooperation between LVSA and a security app daemon called ISS. If there is a How it works and how to configure it in the real world specifically for Win2003, I would be interested in locating it. All the docs I have found so far are still referencing the win2000 limitation. Thanks, -steve -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bell, Charles (Chip) Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:00 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Are LVSA cache files temporary? Is there anything in the dsmerror log indicating that a LVSA-based backup may have failed? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schaub, Steve Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:56 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Are LVSA cache files temporary? TSM Server 5.2.7.1 TSM Client 5.3.4.0 Windows 2003 mix of SE/EE/R2 I have LVSA installed configured, using f: to hold the cache files for c: I noticed that long after the backup completed, there was a 4.5gb obd.tsm file in the tsmlvsacache directory. arent these supposed to remove themselves after the backup completes? I've since lowered the cachesize from 40 to 10 to limit the size, but I still dont want them taking up room except during backups. Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, WNI BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee 423-752-6574 (desk) 423-785-7347 (cell) Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named in the address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this information in error, please notify the sender and delete this information from your computer and retain no copies of any of this information. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Windows number of instances limitation.
Are you sure a propely congirued TSM serve with 4 instances and 6 GB of RAM will actually have room for a 5th. IMHO you shouldn't run more that two. There are a few TSM tech docs that explain the way memory is used based on the those if you properly configure your buffpool you will end up causing memory constraints on your server which will cause problems just going to a 3rd TSM instance. Of course you could go to more 3 or more and limit their bufpools but then you may run into TSM performance issues. Add to that the number of handles on the system that get used. From this doc http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=TSM+Server+handlesuid=swg21112140loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en the following may be of interest to you: For each buffer pool page, the server uses four conditions. This means a BUFFPOOLSIZE of 32768 uses 4+ conditions and 8+ handles initially. The handle count can grow to 12+ over time as the conditions are first used (CRITICAL_SECTION entered). Still here is a doc that tells you how to install TSM on Windows without using the wizard. I've never tried to see if will stop you at 4 http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=TSM+Server+Windows+4+Instancesuid=swg21046089loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm designing a TSM solution for a client. Servers are a couple of beefy Intel boxes - 4 way Xeons with 6GB of memory. This user is government so there is a long retention period required and the databases are big and going to get bigger. I was looking at a two way Windows cluster (2k3 datacenter edition, if it matters) solution with 5 instances, a combined config manager/central database backup/library manager/event manager and four worker instances, basically the same as each other but with the nodes shared around to balance the load. Of course each of the cluster machines would have to support the whole shebang at some point, for maintenance and in case of extended outages (eventually it will be a geographically separated cluster for serious DR capability). Now it turns out that you can't create a fifth TSM instance on a windows server in the usual manner - the option to do so in the management console is grayed out when there are four instances. I'm told that this is a documented limitation, but I can't see where it is documented, despite some serious searching. If any of you know where this is written can you please advise? Does anyone know where this limit is coded, or how it might be circumvented? The TSM registry structure is fairly simple so manually creating the appropriate files and registry enties might work if I can't somehow trick the wizard into action. Please let me know if you have tried this and what the outcome was. IMO this artificial restriction is a danged good reason to use Linux rather than windows. TIA Steve Steven Harris AIX and TSM Admin Brisbane Australia. - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Image Backups
If you set Backup Delete Allowed on the node on the TSM server you should then be able to use the TSM Client GUI to navigate all the backups and selectivly delete what you want. Look under the tools menu. K Stefan Holzwarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, more and more I like the imagebackup feature of TSM. After doing several testing (with BartPE for DR and P2V Vmware) I have left some imagebackups at the TSM server. Now I want to clean up but I have no idea how to find that backups. (There is a sql-select to backup or contents table that needs to much time). Second problem is to selective delete that images from the server without touching incrementals. Any ideas? Kind regards Stefan Holzwarth __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Journal Based Backups
Many windows 2003 servers now days can scan one to two million files per hour. We don't use journaling until we get over five million files. I've seen the deeper the directory structure the longer it takes to scan Basically if all one million files are at the root of a drive it will scan much faster then if one million files were in hundres of subdirectories. Shawn Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to start a discussion on the advantages and disadvantages of Journal Based Backups for Windows Servers. We currently run TSM 5.3 on an AIX platform and have a subset group who administer the TSM Clients on the windows servers. They have been hesitant to turn Journal Based Backups on because of past issues. From what I have seen prior to TSM 5.3 there were a number of issues with JBB, however, since 5.3 there have been changes which have fixed prior issues, such as sessions hanging, disconnects etc... I just attended a class for TSM in which the instructor said the only overhead on the client was about 10MB, the size of the file which houses the directory entries. So my question to this list is, those of you who utilize JBB is what have you seen as being an advantages and disadvantages of this feature? I would like to put together a document which I can present to the Windows Administrators to move them towards Journal Based Backups on clients which have more than 400,000 files. Thank you, Shawn Malone __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Retain only Version
RETO is only used when you are down to one version. So if the file is deleted but you have 3 versions of the file prior to it being deleted then you will still keep those 3 versions based on the RETE value of 365. The RETO will only be used when 2 of the 3 versions have been expired in TSM and you are down to your last and final version. Kyle Andy Huebner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) 60 days 2) Active forever Inactive, 365 days after the next version was backed up. 3) 60 days after all other inactive copies have expired. You can test by setting up a MC using 1 day and 2 day periods. I would test to make sure it behaves as expected. Andy From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of David Browne Sent: Fri 6/2/2006 1:50 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Retain only Version Using the below policy 1) If create a file and it is backed up using the below policy then the file is deleted before the file changes how long will the backup be kept before the backup is deleted? 2) If I have a file with 3 versions and the file still exists on the server but becomes static (doesn't change) how long will the inactive and active version be kept? 3) If I have a file with 3 versions and the file is deleted, how long will the active and inactive versions be kept? Backup Copy Groups : STANDARD ACTIVE STANDARD STANDARD Policy Domain Name STANDARD Policy Set Name ACTIVE Mgmt Class Name STANDARD Copy Group Name STANDARD Versions Data Exists 3 Versions Data Deleted 3 Retain Extra Versions 365 Retain Only Version 60 Copy Mode MODIFIED Copy Serialization SHRSTATIC Copy Frequency 0 Copy Destination BACKUPPOOL Table of Contents (TOC) Destination - Last Update Date/Time 2000-03-23 09:52:18.00 Last Update by (administrator) TSO233 Managing profile - The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Clustered Mount points don't show up as clustered in TSM
I appreciate you going back and forth with me on this but I think you are missing my point. This isn't a TSM configuration issue. The mount points themselves have been created by this customer and they have the name of the physical server in them and that changes when the cluster groups move from one node to another node in the cluster. This is completey outside of TSM. The drives are fine. They have the virtual server name in their path, they show up as clustered drives and I am backing them as they should be with the TSM BAClient. My main question is do you have mount points on your cluster that uses VVM? If you do can you open the BAClient that lists the mount points. Then go to View | File Detatils. See if in the path TSM sees for the mountpoints you see the physical server name or the virtual server name. If you see the virtual server name then I know that this customer of mine has something configured incorrectly in VVM and if I saw a screen shot of what you see then I can tell them they have a config issue in VVM. If you see your physical server name and not your virtual server name then you will see my delima because that name in that path will change when you move the group to a different node in the cluster. When the path changes, the filespace name that TSM sees changes and then when the data is backed up on that node it will run another first time backup of all the data. It is for the mount points alone that we are looking at the rename script. Kyle Bos, Karel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, File space rename? Not if you configure the ITSM ba client for the cluster node(s) correctly! Clustercontroler A will have all its drives stored under \\A\drive$ Clustercontroler B will have all its drives stored under \\A\drive$ The virtual server(s) will store all there data under \\clustername\drive$\mp . One of my clusters. Cluster controlers cln021 en cln022, clustername cluster02 and (one of its) virtual server names fs021 Virtual server FS021 \\cluster02\f$ 1 WinNT NTFS Yes 8,628.6 50.9 FS021 \\cluster02\f$\users1 2 WinNT NTFS Yes 258,938. 99.4 FS021 \\cluster02\f$\users2 3 WinNT NTFS Yes 258,938. 75.3 F:\adsm\DSM.OPT nodename nuwnlfs021 HTTPPORT 1582 CLUSTERNODE YES CLUSTERDISKSONLY NO Clustercontroler A CLN021 \\cln021\c$ 1 WinNT NTFS Yes 34,718.6 33.6 CLN021 SYSTEM 2 WinNT SYSTEM Yes 0.0 0.0 SERVICES CLN021 SYSTEM 3 WinNT SYSTEM Yes 0.0 0.0 STATE CLN021 ASR 4 WinNT NTFS Yes 0.0 0.0 C:\win32app\ibm\adsm\baclient\dsm.opt DOMain C: domain systemservices domain systemstate clusternode no CLUSTERDISKSONLY Yes Clustercontroler B CLN022 \\cln022\c$ 1 WinNT NTFS Yes 34,718.6 39.6 CLN022 SYSTEM 2 WinNT SYSTEM Yes 0.0 0.0 SERVICES CLN022 SYSTEM 3 WinNT SYSTEM Yes 0.0 0.0 STATE CLN022 ASR 4 WinNT NTFS Yes 0.0 0.0 C:\win32app\ibm\adsm\baclient\dsm.opt DOMain C: domain systemservices domain systemstate clusternode no CLUSTERDISKSONLY Yes Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: vrijdag 12 mei 2006 1:36 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Clustered Mount points don't show up as clustered in TSM Karel, How do you deal with the fact that the mount point name changes when the cluster groups moves from one node to another? We were thinking about having two seperate dsm.opt files. Each would have the domain statments that list the mount point names based on the server name. Then we were going to have a *.bat file run as a preschedule command that would rename the mount point's file space name on the TSM server so that the data always got backed up to the same file space no matter what server the mount point was on. Did you do anything like this? Or, do you just let the mount points backup to two different filespaces. Remember the file space name has the complete path in it which includes the server name which will make it look like a different mount point based on what server it is mounted from. Kyle Bos, Karel wrote: Hi, Read about it after the my first Windows 2003 cluster server, with mounted disks, as ITSM back-up client. Normal clusters I had done that before, so I did the standard config: - Install BA client on the cluster controlers; - Setup the back-up of the clustercontrolers (clusternode=no and domain only local stuff); - Setup cluster node (clusternode=yes and only cluster stuff). And the last would not work as before. Mountpoint are on windows local so the back-up would create \\controlereA\mp and after the switch \\controleB\mp. After a while I though lets look in the change history of the newest ITSM client at that time and found the (for me) new option CLUSTERDISKSONLY and some example combinations of CLUSTERNODE YES/No CLUSTERDISKSONLY NO/Yes Now I use the CLUSTERNODE YES CLUSTERDISKSONLY NO And define every mp on the clusternode. Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL
Re: Clustered Mount points don't show up as clustered in TSM
Karel, How do you deal with the fact that the mount point name changes when the cluster groups moves from one node to another? We were thinking about having two seperate dsm.opt files. Each would have the domain statments that list the mount point names based on the server name. Then we were going to have a *.bat file run as a preschedule command that would rename the mount point's file space name on the TSM server so that the data always got backed up to the same file space no matter what server the mount point was on. Did you do anything like this? Or, do you just let the mount points backup to two different filespaces. Remember the file space name has the complete path in it which includes the server name which will make it look like a different mount point based on what server it is mounted from. Kyle Bos, Karel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Read about it after the my first Windows 2003 cluster server, with mounted disks, as ITSM back-up client. Normal clusters I had done that before, so I did the standard config: - Install BA client on the cluster controlers; - Setup the back-up of the clustercontrolers (clusternode=no and domain only local stuff); - Setup cluster node (clusternode=yes and only cluster stuff). And the last would not work as before. Mountpoint are on windows local so the back-up would create \\controlereA\mp and after the switch \\controleB\mp. After a while I though lets look in the change history of the newest ITSM client at that time and found the (for me) new option CLUSTERDISKSONLY and some example combinations of CLUSTERNODE YES/No CLUSTERDISKSONLY NO/Yes Now I use the CLUSTERNODE YES CLUSTERDISKSONLY NO And define every mp on the clusternode. Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: donderdag 11 mei 2006 0:42 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Clustered Mount points don't show up as clustered in TSM It looks like this option is used to allow the local disks to show up as well when you have CLUSTERNODE YES in the dsm.opt file. This may get us to a point where we can move from backing up the mount points on one node in the cluster to backing them up under the node for the cluster group. However, our real problem still sits with how the mountpoints themselves show up to the OS. The mount point name has the local server in it (ex \\serverA\Data\Accouting\Payable). When the cluster group moves to SERVERB the mount point name changes to include that server name (\\serverB\Data\Accounting\Payable). From the users perspective the mount point itself is still Payable but becuase TSM includes the entire path in the filespace name for the mountpoint simply allowing them to be backed up isn't enough. As you can see I'd need to two seperate DOMAIN entries based on which node in the cluster the group was mounted on. Did you suggest this option becuase you read about it or are you using it? We may test it but if the data is going to still backup under a different file space name based on what side of the cluster the group is on we don't think that is any better than what we have now (backing it up through the physical server). K Bos, Karel wrote: Hi, In Windows 2003 and the newer ITSM clients there is one extra option. See the client doc for extra info. CLUSTERNODE YES CLUSTERDISKSONLY NO Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: woensdag 10 mei 2006 15:08 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Clustered Mount points don't show up as clustered in TSM I have a cluster that has two separate two node file clusters. These clusters have both clustered disk and clustered mount points. These started out as normal Microsoft Windows 2003 file clusters but then the added Veritas Volume Manager to the mix. With Veritas Volume Manager instead of each disk and mount point being a separate clustered resource when you look at them in cluster administrator there is a single clustered resource called Volume Manager or something like that. Then on the properties\parameters tab of that clustered resource you see all the disk and mount points. My problem is that when I have ClusterNode Yes in the dsm.opt file and launch the GUI using it, I see ever single clustered disk as I would expect but none of the mount points show up. Then when I set ClusterNode No I see the local disk and the mount points. The scheduled backup also reports an error Not Clustered Disk when it trys to backup the mount points when ClusterNode Yes is set in the options file it uses. This seems to be a simple problem where they just have to fix the mount points and set them up correctly. However, those mount points fail back and forth with the cluster and when they do everyone can access them as they should. So the customer feels that the mount points must be setup correctly. The mount points
Clustered Mount points don't show up as clustered in TSM
I have a cluster that has two separate two node file clusters. These clusters have both clustered disk and clustered mount points. These started out as normal Microsoft Windows 2003 file clusters but then the added Veritas Volume Manager to the mix. With Veritas Volume Manager instead of each disk and mount point being a separate clustered resource when you look at them in cluster administrator there is a single clustered resource called Volume Manager or something like that. Then on the properties\parameters tab of that clustered resource you see all the disk and mount points. My problem is that when I have ClusterNode Yes in the dsm.opt file and launch the GUI using it, I see ever single clustered disk as I would expect but none of the mount points show up. Then when I set ClusterNode No I see the local disk and the mount points. The scheduled backup also reports an error Not Clustered Disk when it trys to backup the mount points when ClusterNode Yes is set in the options file it uses. This seems to be a simple problem where they just have to fix the mount points and set them up correctly. However, those mount points fail back and forth with the cluster and when they do everyone can access them as they should. So the customer feels that the mount points must be setup correctly. The mount points themselves are all created on disk that is clustered. Also, just like normal mount points when TSM gets to that folder in the file structure it does not back up the data through the disk drive because it expect the data to be backed up through the mount point. I'm wondering if there is any chance anyone else has run into this? If not then I was wondering if anyone else has mount points being backed up by TSM on a regular Windows 2003 cluster without Veritas Volume Manager. If I can at least confirm that in a non-Volume Manager solution the mount points do show up as Clustered then I can lean more on Veritas to explain why theirs show up differently. For now we are backing up the mount points through the single local node name that backs up the physical server and local disk. I am thinking about trying to create a options file on the clustered disk with ClusterNode No and then seeing if I can actually go through and create a client acceptor service and client acceptor cluster resource. I've only ever created these two things with options files that had ClusterNode Yes before. Thanks, Kyle - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase
Re: Clustered Mount points don't show up as clustered in TSM
It looks like this option is used to allow the local disks to show up as well when you have CLUSTERNODE YES in the dsm.opt file. This may get us to a point where we can move from backing up the mount points on one node in the cluster to backing them up under the node for the cluster group. However, our real problem still sits with how the mountpoints themselves show up to the OS. The mount point name has the local server in it (ex \\serverA\Data\Accouting\Payable). When the cluster group moves to SERVERB the mount point name changes to include that server name (\\serverB\Data\Accounting\Payable). From the users perspective the mount point itself is still Payable but becuase TSM includes the entire path in the filespace name for the mountpoint simply allowing them to be backed up isn't enough. As you can see I'd need to two seperate DOMAIN entries based on which node in the cluster the group was mounted on. Did you suggest this option becuase you read about it or are you using it? We may test it but if the data is going to still backup under a different file space name based on what side of the cluster the group is on we don't think that is any better than what we have now (backing it up through the physical server). K Bos, Karel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In Windows 2003 and the newer ITSM clients there is one extra option. See the client doc for extra info. CLUSTERNODE YES CLUSTERDISKSONLY NO Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: woensdag 10 mei 2006 15:08 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Clustered Mount points don't show up as clustered in TSM I have a cluster that has two separate two node file clusters. These clusters have both clustered disk and clustered mount points. These started out as normal Microsoft Windows 2003 file clusters but then the added Veritas Volume Manager to the mix. With Veritas Volume Manager instead of each disk and mount point being a separate clustered resource when you look at them in cluster administrator there is a single clustered resource called Volume Manager or something like that. Then on the properties\parameters tab of that clustered resource you see all the disk and mount points. My problem is that when I have ClusterNode Yes in the dsm.opt file and launch the GUI using it, I see ever single clustered disk as I would expect but none of the mount points show up. Then when I set ClusterNode No I see the local disk and the mount points. The scheduled backup also reports an error Not Clustered Disk when it trys to backup the mount points when ClusterNode Yes is set in the options file it uses. This seems to be a simple problem where they just have to fix the mount points and set them up correctly. However, those mount points fail back and forth with the cluster and when they do everyone can access them as they should. So the customer feels that the mount points must be setup correctly. The mount points themselves are all created on disk that is clustered. Also, just like normal mount points when TSM gets to that folder in the file structure it does not back up the data through the disk drive because it expect the data to be backed up through the mount point. I'm wondering if there is any chance anyone else has run into this? If not then I was wondering if anyone else has mount points being backed up by TSM on a regular Windows 2003 cluster without Veritas Volume Manager. If I can at least confirm that in a non-Volume Manager solution the mount points do show up as Clustered then I can lean more on Veritas to explain why theirs show up differently. For now we are backing up the mount points through the single local node name that backs up the physical server and local disk. I am thinking about trying to create a options file on the clustered disk with ClusterNode No and then seeing if I can actually go through and create a client acceptor service and client acceptor cluster resource. I've only ever created these two things with options files that had ClusterNode Yes before. Thanks, Kyle - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase Dit bericht is vertrouwelijk en kan geheime informatie bevatten enkel bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien dit bericht niet voor u is bestemd, verzoeken wij u dit onmiddellijk aan ons te melden en het bericht te vernietigen. Aangezien de integriteit van het bericht niet veilig gesteld is middels verzending via internet, kan Atos Origin niet aansprakelijk worden gehouden voor de inhoud daarvan. Hoewel wij ons inspannen een virusvrij netwerk te hanteren, geven wij geen enkele garantie dat dit bericht virusvrij is, noch aanvaarden wij enige aansprakelijkheid voor de mogelijke aanwezigheid van een virus in dit bericht. Op al onze rechtsverhoudingen, aanbiedingen en overeenkomsten waaronder Atos Origin goederen en/of diensten levert zijn
Re: Tapeless TSM System
Many people are using VTL's (Virtual Tape Libraries). IBM has the TS7510 and EMC has the CDL. There are also many people using large disk subsystems like the IBM DS4300 or DS6800 or the EMC Clarion or Symmetric. Then on this disk subsystems they use TSM's file device class. In the end using a tapeless solution should require a the TSM server or at the very least the TSM storage to be in an off site location. My customers that have removed tape have a multi data center environment. Have have many with two datacenters. They configure the backups from one datacenter to go to the other so the data is offsite and thus there is no requirement to rotate tapes. I have a few customers with three data center design. The production servers are in two main data centers. Critical servers are GEO clustered. Then those two data centers backup to the third datacenter. In a singe datacenter design you should still be using tape because you should still be taking a copy of your data offsite. Bruce Edelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was wondering if anybody out there has implemented TSM using a tapeless system? This is something we are considering. Any insight would be appreciated. We currently are using TSM version 5.2.2.0 on a Window 2003 server. Using a STK 9710 tape library. Thanks, Bruce A. Edelen Ashland Inc. - Enterprise Computing Systems Lexington, KY 859.357.7896 (Office) 859.608.8847 (Cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This electronic mail may contain information that is privileged, proprietary and confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. This transmission is intended solely for the individual or entity designated above. If you are not the intended recipient, you should understand that any distribution, copying, or use of the information contained in this transmission by anyone other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy all copies which you may have of this communication. - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: TSM SERVER MIGRATION from STK ACSLS tape library to IBM 3584
Yes two libraries can be connected and configred to a single TSM instance at a time. Typicall you configure both and setup all your disk storage pools and mgmt classes to use the new library. Then over time you run move data commands to get the data from the old library to the new library. Depending on what OS you are using the instructions for connecting and configure a 3584 libary would be different. Follow the steps in the manual for your paticular OS for the SCSI library type in TSM. It would be a good idea to work with an IBM business partner on this. Laura Mastandrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there procedures for migrating a TSM server over a period of time from one tape library system to another? Can two libraries coexist on one TSM server? How is the 3584 defined to the server? Thank you. DISCLAIMER: This communication, along with any documents, files or attachments, is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of any information contained in or attached to this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original communication and its attachments without reading, printing or saving in any manner. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender or, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
Re: windows cluster issues client level 5.2.3
We don't used all-local at all in ours. Insteady we just put DOMAIN C: or DOMAIN C: D: depending on how many local (non cluster) disks you have. The only time we've ever had the local backup incorrectly backup the cluster disks was when we forgot and left ALL-LOCAL in the dsm.opt for the local backup. K Tim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have Windows 2003 Server cluster with 2 nodes PServer1 PServer2, Cluster is call PCLUSTER The TSM clients on PServer1 and PServer2 backup their respective c: drives and system information. The TSM Cluster service for noe PCLUSTER backs up drives q: d: Occassionally one of these two TSM Nodes will backup the cluster which I dont want to happen The DSM.OPT on these 2 servers has this coded Domain ALL-LOCAL -d: -q: Tim Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: 5.3.2.2
Did you put CLUSTERNODE YES in that options file. I have V5.3.0.3 running on many cluster servers without any issue. I too create a shortcut launching dsm.exe with the -optfile= using the cluster dsm.opt file. If you have CLUSTERNODE YES and DOMAIN CLUSTER_DRIVE_LETTER then you should be seeing those drives so long as they are online to the server you are running this from. Gill, Geoffrey L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any issues with Windows client 5.3.2.2 and Windows 2003 clusters anyone is aware of? I'm trying to set up a 2 node cluster, each with their own backup service and one resource backup service and for some odd reason, when using the GUI that is configured to use the correct dsm.opt, I do not see the resource drive I assigned in the opt file. Instead I see the 2 local drives on the node. I've got a couple of windows 2000 clusters that do not show this anomaly but they are on a different client version. I know it's been a while since I've had to set one of these up but the documentation still seems to be the same. Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos
Re: NQR hanging on AIX system
When you do not want to invoke the NQR simply put testflag disablenqr in your dsm.opt file. It would be nice if in a future release of the TSM client code this could be a simple check box. Anyway, quite often in the windows world I have to set that when I am trying to restore a single directory on a server that has millions of files. I've been told by IBM that it isn't that it is broke or hung up and if you let it run it will complete. It is just the NQR on a file system with many files will run longer than desired. Thus they published the test flag so that a user can disable NQR when they feel it would help. There is an article on it http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=disablenqruid=swg21083435loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Also, http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=disablenqruid=swg21142185loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Kyle Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just discovered a strange problem/issue that we can only attest to being a client issue, but I haven't been able to find a difinitive problem/fix. Client=V5.1.6.0 on AIX 4.3 (thus I can not upgrade the client but so much, due to OS and patch levels). The server is AIX V5.3.2.2. This AIX system lost a disk. So, we mount another disk and start the No-Query-Restore of this filesystem...Client says waiting for files from server and then simply sits there doing nothing.. The server side shows minimal activity and that the client session is in a RUN state, but that is it. No files get transfered or restored. We tried this numerous times/ways. I made sure to stop *ALL* actitity on the TSM server. We even bounced the TSM server, since the sessions seem to be hanging (IBM, can we please have a terminate with extreme prejudice option, e.g. the FORCE command on z/OS) Then we discovered that selecting *1* file for restore, works. So we tried a pattern that violates the NQR qualification rules(*.txt). That seems to work. So, obviously NQR at this client level (or perhaps client and server level compatibility) seems to be broke ! All references to NRQ issues/fixes I found on the website seem to refer to various crashes, especially when killing the restores from the client side. None refered to the client just going to sleep/spinning its wheels (yes, we tried letting it sit for 30-minutes) Any thoughts/suggestions/hits I missed ? - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
Re: HSM on Windows Filesserver
I search of the file system will not start a recall. At one time some anti-virus programs could cause recalls but that has long since been fixed. Still, if you have a rare 3rd part AV provider you'd want to test. With mos HSM you only ever have a single copy of the HSM file. So when a new file is created on the real system the copy in HSM is expired. Then after that new copy meets your HSM requirements it will be sent to the backend HSM storage. Remember HSM is the origional file and is not a backup version. When the source stub file is delete the default should be to remove the file from the HSM storage. That may not happen until the next time the HSM scan of the file system is done. I really don't have specific information on the new Tivoli HSM product. This is all from my knowlege of DiskXtender. Volker Maibaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, we are also thinking about the possibility of using HSM on our Windows Fileservers. I was wondering what happens if a user is opening the search dialog of the windows explorer and searches for all files on a filespaces containing the string XYZ. Would this start a retrieve of all files previously migrated to TSM? If so, could this be avoided in some way? Is there way how to delete all previous versions of a file in HSM-archive when a new version is migrated? What happens with files in HSM-archive when a user deletes a stub-file (because he doesn't need the file anymore)? Is the archived file also deleted? Or does the archived data grow on forever? regards, Volker - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars.
Re: HSM on Windows Filesserver
This seems to be different then the way DiskXtender worked. I thought it had a process that reconsiled and cleaned up TSM. Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A field guide that has some information on the HSM for Windows: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=hsm+wi ndowsuid=swg27002498loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en There is a section that contains differences from the unix hsm including this: TSM Server Reconciliation Often, files are deleted in the user's file system after they have been migrated to a TSM server. Unlike TSM HSM for UNIX / Linux, TSM HSM for Windows requires an administrator to query the different versions of migrated files stored on the TSM server and to manually delete those no longer desired. Without this interaction, TSM server storage required will tend to grow over time even when the file systems managed are constant in size. TSM HSM for UNIX / Linux schedules periodic reconciliation processes to remove objects from the TSM server when they no longer map to files in HSM client file systems. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:02 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] HSM on Windows Filesserver I search of the file system will not start a recall. At one time some anti-virus programs could cause recalls but that has long since been fixed. Still, if you have a rare 3rd part AV provider you'd want to test. With mos HSM you only ever have a single copy of the HSM file. So when a new file is created on the real system the copy in HSM is expired. Then after that new copy meets your HSM requirements it will be sent to the backend HSM storage. Remember HSM is the origional file and is not a backup version. When the source stub file is delete the default should be to remove the file from the HSM storage. That may not happen until the next time the HSM scan of the file system is done. I really don't have specific information on the new Tivoli HSM product. This is all from my knowlege of DiskXtender. Volker Maibaum wrote: Hello, we are also thinking about the possibility of using HSM on our Windows Fileservers. I was wondering what happens if a user is opening the search dialog of the windows explorer and searches for all files on a filespaces containing the string XYZ. Would this start a retrieve of all files previously migrated to TSM? If so, could this be avoided in some way? Is there way how to delete all previous versions of a file in HSM-archive when a new version is migrated? What happens with files in HSM-archive when a user deletes a stub-file (because he doesn't need the file anymore)? Is the archived file also deleted? Or does the archived data grow on forever? regards, Volker - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: VTL experiences?
The EMC CDL is running FalconStor software through some kind of license agreement between EMC and FalconStor. I really don't know all the specifics of this agreement. FlaconStor has proven to be one of the best if not the best VTL software. Both IBM and STK resold their disk with FalconStor software but EMC's inclusion of this Software with their hardware made it an attactive offer to its customers. IBM one up'd EMC by purchasing the FlaconStor source code and that is what is used on the TS7510. You will notice that past the first splash screen on either the CDL or TS7510 all the rest of the screens look the same. They are infact the same configuration screens you will see if you purchase the FalconStor software directly from FalconStore I believe. So if you know how to configure an EMC CDL you will be able to configure an IBM TS7510 without any problems. The fact that IBM now owns the source code we don't have to rely on a partnership between FalconStor and IBM to be maintaned in order for the product to be enhanced. I also believe the IBM SATA disk is beter than EMC PATA disk so what you get with the IBM solution is the same software features from a VTL perspective but better disk. I know I'm asking for an argument from someone but the main point is that you don't need to worry about how long IBM has had the TS7510 in the market because the underlying software that is running had been around for quite some time. Dearman, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions. I was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage. There are several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC. My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC has been in the market longer. Any comment or recommendation appreciated. Thanks **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947. - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: VTL experiences?
Much of the documentation out there will tell you that the benefit of the VTL is the speed. It is true the VTL is very fast. Some of that same documentation talks about not turning on the virtual compression because it will slow the speed. I've seen in cut the speed in half. But... I've seen a VTL with Virtualized compression turned on still operate as fast as real tape. I make this point because I think you should use the virtualized compression. This way the same 5 TB's of disk space you were using for your file device class might yield 10 to 15 TB's or more of backup space under the VTL. True you could turn on client side compression. But, I like the compression being done on the back end so that there is no stress put on the servers that are backing up themselves. One thing I should also clear up. In my last post I mentioned IBM with SATA disk. I got a friendly reminder from EMC that the CDL's have been shipping with SATA disk since this past November. That also reminded me that the IBM VTL called the TS7510 is using the IBM DS line of disk which has been out for some time now. I remember EMC making the same note when it first came out with the CDL. See the disk subsystem's under both the IBM and EMC VTLs have been out for some time. So just like EMC correctly noted when the CDL first came out you should note today about the IBM TS7510. They really are not new products when it comes to the disk subsystem. In both cases you could choose to purchase the disk subsystems used by the VTLs directly from either IBM or EMC and use them with a file device class. Granted I realize that both EMC and IBM have a specific configuration of their disk subsystems that they put under their VTLs. In my own experience I've used a file device class with TSM V5.2 and earlier and an EMC CDL. I liked the CDL a great deal. We had the same class of EMC disk behind a clarion setup to use a file device class. The same amount of disk behind the CDL performed better. I believe part of the reason is the logic in the FalconStor software. It uses disk for its virtual tapes in 5 GB increments and uses logic to ensure it picks the least busy disk for the next 5 GB that is used. I know with V5.3 giving you the ability to write to multiple filespaces which could be on multiple LUNS gives you something over V5.2. I still think that cycling through separate LUNS though isn't as good as the way the VTL allocates in 5 GB chunks across many more LUNS. FalconStor may have a white paper on how they do it but I would encourage you to ask your vendor who ever it is to come on site and discuss this with you in greater detail. Whether you pick a VTL from EMC or IBM (or someone else for that matter), or you pick a disk subsystem with the file device class you must test yourself to see what will work best in your environment. I make no claim that a VTL is for everyone or that it will outperform real tape in every situation. I simply think it should be one of the things you strongly consider. More and more of us are seeing the benefit of moving small files off tape to disk but we may have been seeing 2:1 or 3:1 compression with those small files on tape. A 1:1 of disk can be costly but when you use virtualized hardware compression behind a CDL it may make things more cost effective if you get 2:1 or 3:1 for small files. Allen S. Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:42:29 -0600, Dearman, Richard said: Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions. I was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage. There are several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC. My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC has been in the market longer. Would you be willing to expound on why you'd prefer sticking disk behind a VTL volume virtualizer, instead of sticking it behind a DEVCLASS=FILE volume virtualizer? I would default in the other direction, so I'm interested in your thinking. - Allen S. Rout - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: windows / ANE4987E
I saw the posts telling you to exclude it. It is funny that I've seen the ntuser.dat file get backed up with TSM open file support. The OS has an exclusive lock on it. I think it is odd that open file support can't back up the file you listed. Could you try using the baclient to backup any of the ntuser.dat files. They are located under C:\Documents and Settings\UserID (ex C:\Documents and Settings\administrator. If you can successfully backup ntuser.dat but not the file you listed below then let me know and I'll run some tests on one of our mom test servers. If you can't backup ntuser.dat then I believe you don't have OFS installed correctly or there is something wrong with the OFS portion of the installation. I'm not saying that with OFS every file can be backed up. I just haven't had any problems on any of the servers that I have OFS running on. Note, that we have been selective about where we run OFS because it requires a reboot to install and upgrade. As a result we have only put it on select servers like Notes servers. Kyle goc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi people, how to get rid of 12/21/05 12:46:36 ANE4987E (Session: 91727, Node: AD01) Error processing '\\ad01\c$\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Operations Manager\HE\EventCons': the object is in use by another process (SESSION: 91727) open files support is installed, server rebooted ... i'm unix admin so this totally new for me, if anyone has a hint i'll appreciate it mucho ! TIA goran __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: TSM CLient install error on Windows
I've run into this but in my case it was always when something TSM wise was running. Every time when I started task managaer it would show me what that was. If task manager shows nothing there is an application you can download from sysinternals that will show you what has it locked. William Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TSM 5.3.2.0 client Windows2003 The TSM 5.1 client is already installed and this in an upgrade. On some servers (most notibly Domino servers) the install fails at the very end with an insufficient access permissions on the PLUGINS subdirectory. This is at the point where the previous client is removed, but the 5.3.2.0 client does not complete. After the install ends if you look at the permissions on the directory it is set to Read-Only...as well as the BACLIENT directory. You cannot change this either. It actually takes a reboot of the server for the install to complete. We are logged in as the administrator account, and the TSM services are stopped. There is not a backup running or a web client accessing the system. I've searched on ADSM-L and IBM with no hits. Any ideas? This is probably a Windows issue, but all the client sees is that it is TSM. Perception issue. Bill Boyer Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional - ?? - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: TSM / ASR
You download the copy from the web or ftp site. Then you rename it and burn that to the CD. Basically don't extract it. Tim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thhe TSM ASR setup requires the TSM client be available on a TSM client CD in packaged-for-the-web (self extracting single file) format I know what it means but how is it created in this format Tim Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals
Re: VTS or san disk storage
The latest VTS from IBM does not run TSM under the covers. I'm not sure if you are thinking about VTS (Virtual Tape System) or something else like a Document Management system. Gee, Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not consider using IBM VTS as a possible solution. The VTS internally also runs ADSM. If the tape volumes you want is not on cache, the VTS has to retrieve it from tape, place it on disk cache prior to sending it to the servers. This takes time. My VTS emulates IBM 3490E cartridge tapes. These tapes has a native capacity of 800MB or 2.4GB compress. This is not a lot of data these days. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dearman, Richard Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:34 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: VTS or san disk storage We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. The san disk administration has become a nightmare and I was thinking of replacing it with a VTS from IBM or other disk library such as one from EMC. Do you guys have experiences with disk library based systems and have any pro or con comments on them and whether or not you have had good or bad experiences with them. thanks **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: VTS or san disk storage
Ah, that is right I don't work in the Mainframe arena so I forgot about that VTS. As Mark stated, there is now a new VTL (Virual Tape Libary) that IBM sells. I believe it was announced in October. Here is a link http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/storage/tape/virtualization/index.html This product is not running TSM under the covers. Kyle TSM_User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest VTS from IBM does not run TSM under the covers. I'm not sure if you are thinking about VTS (Virtual Tape System) or something else like a Document Management system. Gee, Norman wrote: I would not consider using IBM VTS as a possible solution. The VTS internally also runs ADSM. If the tape volumes you want is not on cache, the VTS has to retrieve it from tape, place it on disk cache prior to sending it to the servers. This takes time. My VTS emulates IBM 3490E cartridge tapes. These tapes has a native capacity of 800MB or 2.4GB compress. This is not a lot of data these days. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dearman, Richard Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:34 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: VTS or san disk storage We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. The san disk administration has become a nightmare and I was thinking of replacing it with a VTS from IBM or other disk library such as one from EMC. Do you guys have experiences with disk library based systems and have any pro or con comments on them and whether or not you have had good or bad experiences with them. thanks **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names
TSM works, or was ever intended to work. In other words, DOMAIN was never intended to prevent you from backing up files on non-DOMAIN file systems. Rather, DOMAIN is used to specify which file systems are processed by default when you perform an incremental operation. Having said that, if you want domain behavior from the GUI for incremental backup operations, then do the following: 1) start dsm 2) Select the Action/Backup Domain menu option The backup part of the GUI allows you to pick and choose objects to back up, just as you can use the dsmc incremental or dsmc selective commands to pick and choose objects for backup. Whether from command line or GUI, there is no relationship between DOMAIN and the objects on which you can operate by explicitly picking and choosing from the GUI or from listing the objects in a SELECTIVE or INCREMENTAL operation. I think what you are thinking of is the EXCLUDE.FS option available on Unix clients, which prevents backup of excluded file systems. I hope this clarifies things. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm. com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 2005-11-17 19:03:52: Andy, Sorry my point was that while the domain statment in the dsm. opt file does effect what is backed up from a command line and scheduler standpoint it does not effect what you see in the GUI and where you see it in the GUI. I ran a number of tests. Every time a mapped drive shows up in the GUI under Network even when it is not in the dsm.opt file. Every time a UNC never shows up under the GUI when it is in the dsm. opt file. I think it has always been this way. Now if you think it is a bug then I'd be happy to see things in the GUI based on the domain statement. So I could put -C: to make sure the C:\ doesn't show up in the GUI and web client or \\Server\SHARE so that it does show up in the GUI and web client. Again, where the mapped drives show up isn't an issue at all to me. It makes complete sense that they would show up under Network. Andrew Raibeck wrote: Hi Kyle, If the drive letter maps to a network resource, then it makes sense to have it show up under network, whether it's in the domain or not. I think if it is a valid resource to back up at the domain level, it should appear in the GUI. The command line client and the scheduler certainly recognize it when it's in the DOMAIN list. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm. com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. TSM_User Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 2005-11-15 16:16 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names Andy are you sure? I don't remember seeing UNC paths that have been added to a dsm.opt show up in the GUI ever. I'm wondering if the F: drive shows up in Wanda's case because it is mapped and all mapped drives show up under Network in the GUI. I just mapped a drive without ever putting anything in the dsm.opt and I see it under Network. Further I added it to the dsm.opt and that didn't change the fact that it only showed up under Network. What I'm asking is do you really think adding something to the domain statement, drive letter or UNC, will really have an effect on the GUI? I'm running the V5.2.3 client on WinXP Kyle Andrew Raibeck wrote: Hi Wanda, I would call this a bug. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm. com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 2005-11-15 15:03:08: I'm confused: TSM client 5.3.x on Win2K: If I map a network drive as drive F: and add it to my dsm.opt file this way: DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL F: Assuming I have the right
Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names
No *WAIT*. I'm not drawing any conclusions to anything. From the very first e-mail on this thread Wanda asked if why when she added a UNC to the domain stamtement why it didn't show up in the GUI. You said yes that looks like a bug. I disagree. I don't think it is a bug. I think that putting something in the domain statement *DOES NOT* make it show up in the GUI. Sorry if my explanation wasn't clear. Now if I'm wrong and it should then let me know that. Kyle Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kyle, Now if you think it is a bug then I'd be happy to see things in the GUI based on the domain statement. So I could put -C: to make sure the C:\ doesn't show up in the GUI and web client I think that you are attempting to establish a functional relationship, between DOMAIN and the Backup portion of the GUI interface, that just does not exist. It *is* the purpose of the DOMAIN option to establish a *default* list of file systems to be processed by an *incremental* backup operation. It is *not* the purpose of DOMAIN to prevent you from backing up files on file systems that are not part of the domain. To draw a parallel to the commandline, the scenario you describe is akin to setting up your DOMAIN option like this: domain all-local -d: and then *disallowing* the following (for example): dsmc incremental d: or dsmc selective d:\mydir\ -subdir=yes This is just not how TSM works, or was ever intended to work. In other words, DOMAIN was never intended to prevent you from backing up files on non-DOMAIN file systems. Rather, DOMAIN is used to specify which file systems are processed by default when you perform an incremental operation. Having said that, if you want domain behavior from the GUI for incremental backup operations, then do the following: 1) start dsm 2) Select the Action/Backup Domain menu option The backup part of the GUI allows you to pick and choose objects to back up, just as you can use the dsmc incremental or dsmc selective commands to pick and choose objects for backup. Whether from command line or GUI, there is no relationship between DOMAIN and the objects on which you can operate by explicitly picking and choosing from the GUI or from listing the objects in a SELECTIVE or INCREMENTAL operation. I think what you are thinking of is the EXCLUDE.FS option available on Unix clients, which prevents backup of excluded file systems. I hope this clarifies things. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 2005-11-17 19:03:52: Andy, Sorry my point was that while the domain statment in the dsm. opt file does effect what is backed up from a command line and scheduler standpoint it does not effect what you see in the GUI and where you see it in the GUI. I ran a number of tests. Every time a mapped drive shows up in the GUI under Network even when it is not in the dsm.opt file. Every time a UNC never shows up under the GUI when it is in the dsm. opt file. I think it has always been this way. Now if you think it is a bug then I'd be happy to see things in the GUI based on the domain statement. So I could put -C: to make sure the C:\ doesn't show up in the GUI and web client or \\Server\SHARE so that it does show up in the GUI and web client. Again, where the mapped drives show up isn't an issue at all to me. It makes complete sense that they would show up under Network. Andrew Raibeck wrote: Hi Kyle, If the drive letter maps to a network resource, then it makes sense to have it show up under network, whether it's in the domain or not. I think if it is a valid resource to back up at the domain level, it should appear in the GUI. The command line client and the scheduler certainly recognize it when it's in the DOMAIN list. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm. com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. TSM_User Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 2005-11-15 16:16 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names Andy are you sure? I don't remember seeing UNC paths that have been added to a dsm.opt show up
Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names
Andy, Sorry my point was that while the domain statment in the dsm.opt file does effect what is backed up from a command line and scheduler standpoint it does not effect what you see in the GUI and where you see it in the GUI. I ran a number of tests. Every time a mapped drive shows up in the GUI under Network even when it is not in the dsm.opt file. Every time a UNC never shows up under the GUI when it is in the dsm.opt file. I think it has always been this way. Now if you think it is a bug then I'd be happy to see things in the GUI based on the domain statement. So I could put -C: to make sure the C:\ doesn't show up in the GUI and web client or \\Server\SHARE so that it does show up in the GUI and web client. Again, where the mapped drives show up isn't an issue at all to me. It makes complete sense that they would show up under Network. Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kyle, If the drive letter maps to a network resource, then it makes sense to have it show up under network, whether it's in the domain or not. I think if it is a valid resource to back up at the domain level, it should appear in the GUI. The command line client and the scheduler certainly recognize it when it's in the DOMAIN list. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. TSM_User Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 2005-11-15 16:16 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names Andy are you sure? I don't remember seeing UNC paths that have been added to a dsm.opt show up in the GUI ever. I'm wondering if the F: drive shows up in Wanda's case because it is mapped and all mapped drives show up under Network in the GUI. I just mapped a drive without ever putting anything in the dsm.opt and I see it under Network. Further I added it to the dsm.opt and that didn't change the fact that it only showed up under Network. What I'm asking is do you really think adding something to the domain statement, drive letter or UNC, will really have an effect on the GUI? I'm running the V5.2.3 client on WinXP Kyle Andrew Raibeck wrote: Hi Wanda, I would call this a bug. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 2005-11-15 15:03:08: I'm confused: TSM client 5.3.x on Win2K: If I map a network drive as drive F: and add it to my dsm.opt file this way: DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL F: Assuming I have the right permissions, the scheduler will back up F:just fine. When I open the GUI client and do edit- preferences - Backup, I can see F: is in the domain list, and I can select it for backup. If I DONT map a drive letter, but I add that same drive to my dsm. opt file this way: DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL \\host\d$ Assuming I have the right permissions, the scheduler will back up this drive just fine. But when I open the GUI client and do edit - preferences - backup, it isn't in the domain list, and I can't select it from the GUI. Is this WAD? I found in the doc where the unc name is allowed in dsm.opt, but can't find an explanation of the difference in the scheduler and GUI behavior? Thanks Wanda Prather * I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O * -(me) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: New ISC/admin
The latest ISC is 6.0.1 which I don't see there. I got it through the IBM download center. Timothy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan...Thanks! Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: The same place as the rest of the TSM patches/releases/etc, but in the admincenter directory: ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/admincenter/v5r3/5.3.2.0 Timothy Hughes Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 11/16/2005 09:34 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [ADSM-L] New ISC/admin Hello, Does anyone know the IBM link to the new ISC/Admin? Thanks in advance! - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names
Andy are you sure? I don't remember seeing UNC paths that have been added to a dsm.opt show up in the GUI ever. I'm wondering if the F: drive shows up in Wanda's case because it is mapped and all mapped drives show up under Network in the GUI. I just mapped a drive without ever putting anything in the dsm.opt and I see it under Network. Further I added it to the dsm.opt and that didn't change the fact that it only showed up under Network. What I'm asking is do you really think adding something to the domain statement, drive letter or UNC, will really have an effect on the GUI? I'm running the V5.2.3 client on WinXP Kyle Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wanda, I would call this a bug. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 2005-11-15 15:03:08: I'm confused: TSM client 5.3.x on Win2K: If I map a network drive as drive F: and add it to my dsm.opt file this way: DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL F: Assuming I have the right permissions, the scheduler will back up F:just fine. When I open the GUI client and do edit- preferences - Backup, I can see F: is in the domain list, and I can select it for backup. If I DONT map a drive letter, but I add that same drive to my dsm. opt file this way: DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL \\host\d$ Assuming I have the right permissions, the scheduler will back up this drive just fine. But when I open the GUI client and do edit - preferences - backup, it isn't in the domain list, and I can't select it from the GUI. Is this WAD? I found in the doc where the unc name is allowed in dsm.opt, but can't find an explanation of the difference in the scheduler and GUI behavior? Thanks Wanda Prather * I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O * -(me) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: windows 64 bit client install
The x64 code is at ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/client/v5r3/Windows/x64/. The IA64 is for Itanium only. If you are sure that you ran the install from a client downloaded from the above then I'd open a call with support. Tim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get this message when i try to install the 530 client. I have tried the 2 versions from folders (IA64 aND X64) ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/client/v5r3/Windows/ This installation package is not supported by this processor type The processor is a Zenon 64 bit Quad 4 way processor IBM Model 8863-2RU OS is Windows Server 2003 Enterprise x64 Edition / SP1 Tim Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
select on events table question
I know that per APAR IC28825 if you try running select * from events you will only get the events for today. That APAR lists a work around where running select count(*) from events where scheduled_start between '2005-10-01 18:00:00' and '2005-10-15 06:00:00' will actually give you the events for a date range. With this I have to update the range each time I run it. I tried to use the timestamp with between as follows select count(*) from events where scheduled_start between timestamp(current date - 30 day,'18:00:00') and timestamp(current date,'18:00:00'). But when I use timestamp it reverts back to the problem where it only shows you todays event data. Just wondering if Andy or any other SQL guru's out there might now if I am using timestamp incorrectly with between. Kyle - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
Re: Select Question
Note that the table is also key'd by node_name so if you pass node_name='NODE_NAME' then you will get the information back much more quickly. If you want it for every node then be prepared for that select to run a very long time. Also in adition to the backups table you might also want to look at the archives table (select distinct node_name,class_name from archives). Last, you only need to put the table name in front of the field name when your select is on more than one table. K William Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This should work select distinct backups.node_name, backups.class_name from backups Here are the rest of the columns from backups BACKUPS.BACKUP_DATE BACKUPS.CLASS_NAME BACKUPS.DEACTIVATE_DATE BACKUPS.FILESPACE_ID BACKUPS.FILESPACE_NAME BACKUPS.HL_NAME BACKUPS.LL_NAME BACKUPS.NODE_NAME BACKUPS.OBJECT_ID BACKUPS.OWNER BACKUPS.STATE BACKUPS.TYPE From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Spearman, Wayne Sent: Thu 9/22/05 12:40 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Select Question I'm trying to see what Clients are using what management classes. For instance, server1 is using management class 1week and 1year. I can't seem to find the right tables or selects. Any help would be appreciated. Wayne - This message and any included attachments are from NOVANT HEALTH INC. and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender by e-mail. If you believe that any information contained in this message is disparaging or harassing on the basis of gender, race, age, disability, religion, or national origin, please contact Novant Health, Inc. at 1 -888-378-8250 or 1-800-350-0094 or forward the e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CIFS/NAS/CELERRA backups and web-gui
I'm pretty sure that the Web GUI does not prefill its list of what you can backup based on the options file. It instead prefills it with a list of local drives. The restore unlike the backup windows prefills its list based on what filespaces have been backed up on the TSM server. I think the local GUI works the same way. Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are trying to configure a Windows box to act as the CIFS mountpoint to a CELERRA NAS. Since there will be multiple owners/mounts/nodes to this box, we are setting up the web-gui to handle the restores, etc. Due to the expected large number of mounts, we will not be able to give every point a drive-letter, so the backups have to be via CIFS/UNC mountpoint. We have a unique DSM.OPT file with a specific DOMAIN statement, etc per mountpoint. We we tried the web-gui to perform BACKUPS, the CIFS/UNC mountpoints are not visible/accessible ! However, when we perform a backup via standard Windows gui, the web interface can then see the backups from the RESTORE windows. What are we missing ? Why can't we see the CIFS\UNC mountpoints via web ? TSM 5.3.0.15 client on 2K3 server - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: generate full backup using backupsets
You could write a script that runs as part of a preschedule command which gets a list local drives and then compares that to the list of drives that is in the command file. It could then send you an e-mail if any are missing. We have to do this for our cluster servers. Because there currently isn't an ALL-CLUSTER we have to hard code the drives to backup in our cluster dsm.opt files. So I run a script with every backup that lists out the cluster drives and then compares that to the drives in the dsm.opt file. When some are missing we get an e-mail. An e-mail is just one of the many ways you can alert. Or, you could build the cmd file that does the archive on the fly. It could get a list of all the local drives and archive them all. K William Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to maintain all the schedules that go with the correct node with the correct drive letters for his 75 nodes And when an admin adds a drive to a node without letting you know? Or removes one and now your schedules fail because D:\*.* doesn't exist? Whose fault does that end up being when they can't restore the data you said you were archiving for them? And if your requirements are that you be able to BMR a box to a monthly state, archive is out of the question. I would sooner use archive, don't get me wrong, but there's just not a DOMAIN that you can specify to archive and have it pick up everything in that DOMAIN. Like backup. With changes when those pesky admins change things and don't communicate it back to you. Bill Boyer Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield - ?? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: generate full backup using backupsets From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Boyer I would very much like to use an ARCHIVE for this, but haven't figured out how to make it do all drives without having to code them in a command script or in the OBJECT= for the schedule. ...and the problem with that is...? -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627 - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: NT privilege question
The local administrator on one server has no rights on another server. You must use a domain account that has the following rights on both servers. Both the Backup Operators and Administrators local groups have these rights. Backup Files and Directories Restore Files and Directories Manage Audit and Security Logs Robert Ouzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to all I have a client Windows 2003 with a mapped network drive (S:) I tried to backup but got this error: Incremental backup of volume 's:\ds01\*' ANS1449E A required NT privilege is not held I had I think for my login user (administrator) all the privilege I can think about (administrator group , backup ...) What I missed My client version of TSM is 5.3.0.14 on a TSM server 5.2.4.2 T.I.A Regards Robert Ouzen E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: EMC CELERRA backup options - need feedback
If you haven't tested a CIFS backup I suggested you do that first. It works of course but is much slower. We compared CIFS backups through a windows server of 1 million files to a backup of 1 million files on the Windows server itself and it took 10 times as long to scan through the directories on the CIFS share. There is little difference in speed for the first incremental backup because the NIC is the bottleneck in most cases there. But on the 2nd day when your used to the incremental backup scanning through the system at between 1 million and 2 million object an hour it will instead run at between 100,000 and 200,000 objects an hour. So if you have a CIFS share with 2 million files it could take up to 20 hours to just run a regular incremental backup with no data changing. When we first saw this problem 2 or 3 years ago we had a call open with MS, Tivoli and EMC. In the end we were told by MS that calls to files and their attributes on remote shares are tuned differently than calls to local file systems. I don't remember all the specific whys but the main thing I do remember is that they said it was working as designed. We've found that if you have small CIFS shares backing them up through a Windows server is best so that we can get the granular backup you want. If they are large then you have to use NDMP. In at least one case I have a customer that choose to backup the Windows data through a Unix server. They loose the permissions but because they secure everything at the folder level they just wrote a script that uses XCACLS.VBS. They use the unix server to perform the recovery and then run the XCACLS.VBS program from a windows server to set permissions. Kyle Waldon, Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setup a baclient for each volume or however you want to back it up on another server (i.e. W2k or w2k3) - also setup browsers for each to enable restores. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU Sent: Friday, 9 September 2005 1:55 a.m. To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: EMC CELERRA backup options - need feedback I am looking for information/guidance/suggestions/sanity-checks on my current project involving backing up an EMC CELERRA NAS. Originally, I was told to approach this as an NDMP backup. The more we look at the drawbacks/limitation of TSM NDMP backups vs what we need to be able to do with the backups, we are looking at alternative methods for backups. Our scenario for the NAS is going to be like this: 1. 300GB to start - up to 3TB. 2. Multiple different clients, both real servers (Windows and *NIX) and virtual server connections 3. Lots of workstations connecting to the NAS via AD group policies/virtual server mountpoints to redirect their My Documents to the NAS. We need granularity of control over who can restore what from the TSM backups. The NDMP method doesn't seem to be able to handle this. We need to perform offsite backup copies (i.e. DR, audit requirements) which the NDMP method makes painful (snapshots..backing up twice). So, how do you backup your CELERRA ? - Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ...
We use a similar short cut method that we've found works 95% of the time. We just copy out the hal.dll and notoskrnl.exe. We then run the restore (catalog, C:\ and systemstate). After the restore and before the reboot we copy the hal.dll and ntoskrnl.exe back. Then we reboot, if the system comes up we don't need to run the In-Place upgrade. If it doesn't then we do. We've found that only about 5% of the time it doesn't come up and for those cases we follow the steps I posted earlier. Note, we've also copied out all the files you listed but of course the rest are locked and can't be restored. I'm sure that is why you use the recovery console. It may be that for the 5% of the time we use the In-Place upgrade we could have used the recovery console to copy back the other files. One good thing with this short method is that the In-Place upgrade will take more time. On the other hand I think when this thread started it was with a box that wouldn't boot already. I assumed files wheren't copied out and therefor could not be copied back. In those cases you have no choice but to use the In-Place upgrade. K Leigh Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done a fair amount of BMR's in the past and not always to similar hardware. I'm not sure if this is relevant to you, but here's my euro's worth anyway. After installing the vanilla OS and then Service Pack'ing it to the level of the original machine that you are trying to restore, I make a copy of the following files. W2K c:\winnt\system32\hal.dll c:\winnt\system32\kernel32.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntdll.dll c:\winnt\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe c:\winnt\system32\win32k.sys c:\winnt\system32\winsrv.dll W2K3 C:\windows\system32\hal.dll C:\windows\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe C:\windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe The files that you need can be found from Device Manager -- Computer -- Properties -- Driver Details With W2K, you can use the Recovery Console to copy the original files back to your restored OS after the first reboot. With W2K3 you can actually copy the files back after the system state system services restore, before you reboot. Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PAC Brion Arnaud Sent: 06 September 2005 16:46 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ... Kyle, Thanks for the trick : I tried it, and was able to log-in again on the machine. However, something probably failed during the systemstate restore, as entire parts of the system configuration where lost ... Not really funny, but this machine was only a test server, so the damage is limited. Once again a good lesson for me : practice DR simulations more often ! Thanks again. Regards. Arnaud ** Panalpina Management Ltd., Basle, Switzerland, CIT Department Viadukstrasse 42, P.O. Box 4002 Basel/CH Phone: +41 (61) 226 11 11, FAX: +41 (61) 226 17 01 Direct: +41 (61) 226 19 78 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Saturday, 03 September, 2005 00:52 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ... If ASR doesn't work you can try the In-Place ugprade using option R after you press F8 to agree to the license agreement. We've had discussions about In-Place upgrade on this list before. You can search those or MS's knowledgebase. Basically, you take a Windows 2003 server installation CD and boot from it just like you were going to install the OS again right over top of your restore. You can use F6 to install the device drivers. Take all the normal options. After you press F8 to agree to the license agreement you will get a screen that you don't get on a new install. It will say We see that Windows is already installed on this server in c:\windows or something like that. At the bottom of that screen it will ask you if you want to repair it and if so press R. Do this and you will perform an install that re-enumerates all the hardware leaving the software intact. Bascially a reinstall of the hardware part of the registry. It is key to be sure you have a CD that has the service pack (if any) you are using slipstreamed into it. However, being that you said you don' t have an SP on this server you can use the regular base OS installation CD. Kyle PAC Brion Arnaud wrote: Henrick, Thanks for you suggestion, but it doesn't apply to this particular case : no Trend antivirus on this server, and anyway I would not be in a position connecting from another machine as the network interface seems not to be started on the server (even ping fails ...) Thanks anyway ! Cheers Arnaud
Re: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ...
Did you do the following in this order:
1) Restore the system file protection catalogs (dsmc restore {SYSTEM
STATE}\windows\system32\catroot\*
c:\windows\system32\ -sub=yes -rep=all )
2) Restore the C:\ (OS drive with C:\Windows or C:\Winnt), don't reboot.
3) Restore the system state, don't reboot yet.
4) Insert the Windows Install CD.
5) Reboot, making sure to boot of the install CD.
6) Pick option R after F8.
If you did follow those steps then it is unlikely the systemstate restore was
bad but more likely that the systemstate backup was not current. You can run
the q systemstate from the backup\archive command line to see the date and
time it was last backed up.
The steps above are detailed more clearly in the following
doc:http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21164812. Of course this
doc doesn't discuss the In-Place upgrade because restoring to dissimilar
hardware is not officially support by MS so it therefor can't be support by
Tivoli.
Kyle
PAC Brion Arnaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kyle,
Thanks for the trick : I tried it, and was able to log-in again on the
machine. However, something probably failed during the systemstate
restore, as entire parts of the system configuration where lost ... Not
really funny, but this machine was only a test server, so the damage is
limited. Once again a good lesson for me : practice DR simulations more
often !
Thanks again.
Regards.
Arnaud
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
TSM_User
Sent: Saturday, 03 September, 2005 00:52
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ...
If ASR doesn't work you can try the In-Place ugprade using option R
after you press F8 to agree to the license agreement. We've had
discussions about In-Place upgrade on this list before. You can search
those or MS's knowledgebase.
Basically, you take a Windows 2003 server installation CD and boot from
it just like you were going to install the OS again right over top of
your restore. You can use F6 to install the device drivers. Take all
the normal options. After you press F8 to agree to the license agreement
you will get a screen that you don't get on a new install. It will say
We see that Windows is already installed on this server in c:\windows
or something like that. At the bottom of that screen it will ask you if
you want to repair it and if so press R. Do this and you will perform
an install that re-enumerates all the hardware leaving the software
intact. Bascially a reinstall of the hardware part of the registry. It
is key to be sure you have a CD that has the service pack (if any) you
are using slipstreamed into it. However, being that you said you don' t
have an SP on this server you can use the regular base OS installation
CD.
Kyle
PAC Brion Arnaud wrote:
Henrick,
Thanks for you suggestion, but it doesn't apply to this particular case
: no Trend antivirus on this server, and anyway I would not be in a
position connecting from another machine as the network interface seems
not to be started on the server (even ping fails ...) Thanks anyway !
Cheers
Arnaud
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Henrik Wahlstedt
Sent: Friday, 02 September, 2005 15:34
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ...
Hi,
No explanationa but maybe a work around...
I have seen this on a couple of w2k3 servers with Trend Antivirus.
Stopping Trend usually works, if not disabling Trend and reboot the did
the trick.
Use services.msc from another computer and connect to the recovered
server.
Henirk
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Sent: den 2 september 2005 14:52
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Subject: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ...
Hi all,
Due to some raid driver corruption on one of our clients (Win2k3 server
edition, no SP, TSM client 5.2.4) we've tried to do a BMR of the
machine, using the ASR diskette.
Restore seemed to be OK, but when the machine came up again and we tried
to log-in, we got a message telling us that the OS
Re: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ...
If ASR doesn't work you can try the In-Place ugprade using option R after you press F8 to agree to the license agreement. We've had discussions about In-Place upgrade on this list before. You can search those or MS's knowledgebase. Basically, you take a Windows 2003 server installation CD and boot from it just like you were going to install the OS again right over top of your restore. You can use F6 to install the device drivers. Take all the normal options. After you press F8 to agree to the license agreement you will get a screen that you don't get on a new install. It will say We see that Windows is already installed on this server in c:\windows or something like that. At the bottom of that screen it will ask you if you want to repair it and if so press R. Do this and you will perform an install that re-enumerates all the hardware leaving the software intact. Bascially a reinstall of the hardware part of the registry. It is key to be sure you have a CD that has the service pack (if any) you are using slipstreamed into it. However, being that you said you don' t have an SP on this server you can use the regular base OS installation CD. Kyle PAC Brion Arnaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henrick, Thanks for you suggestion, but it doesn't apply to this particular case : no Trend antivirus on this server, and anyway I would not be in a position connecting from another machine as the network interface seems not to be started on the server (even ping fails ...) Thanks anyway ! Cheers Arnaud ** Panalpina Management Ltd., Basle, Switzerland, CIT Department Viadukstrasse 42, P.O. Box 4002 Basel/CH Phone: +41 (61) 226 11 11, FAX: +41 (61) 226 17 01 Direct: +41 (61) 226 19 78 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrik Wahlstedt Sent: Friday, 02 September, 2005 15:34 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ... Hi, No explanationa but maybe a work around... I have seen this on a couple of w2k3 servers with Trend Antivirus. Stopping Trend usually works, if not disabling Trend and reboot the did the trick. Use services.msc from another computer and connect to the recovered server. Henirk -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PAC Brion Arnaud Sent: den 2 september 2005 14:52 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Unsuccessful BMR for win2k3 : OS not registered message ... Hi all, Due to some raid driver corruption on one of our clients (Win2k3 server edition, no SP, TSM client 5.2.4) we've tried to do a BMR of the machine, using the ASR diskette. Restore seemed to be OK, but when the machine came up again and we tried to log-in, we got a message telling us that the OS was not registered. Problem is that whatever option we choose in the dialog box (accept, discard or cancel), we get the login prompt again and nothing more happens ... Does anybody have an explanation / solution for this problem ? Thanks in advance ! Cheers. Arnaud ** Panalpina Management Ltd., Basle, Switzerland, CIT Department Viadukstrasse 42, P.O. Box 4002 Basel/CH Phone: +41 (61) 226 11 11, FAX: +41 (61) 226 17 01 Direct: +41 (61) 226 19 78 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: restore OU in AD 2003
As Mark said those versions of TSM won't even allow a systemstate backup. If you aren't already I'd start using NT Backup to backup the systemstate, or get upgraded. I'd like to point out that you don't use TSM to restore a single OU. Few backup products support a recovery directly into AD and Microsoft doesn't support it. Instead what they support is an Authoritative recovery of a Domain Controller. Search the MS knowledge base for more details on that. In a nut shell you have to first completely recover a Domain controller. Then you run a command to increase the value on that OU. This same command can set all objects to a higher value or just indidual objects. When you start that Domain Controller replication will start the other objects will not replicate anywhere because their values will be same or lower than what is on all the other DC's. However, the OU that you updated will get replicated out everywhere just as if you made an update to it on that DC. Anyway, as you can see this is a reason that many customers purchase some third party products when they want perform single OU or object level recovery in AD. Or, they just recreate the object. Stapleton, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse Sanaseros Has anyone successfully restored an OU to AD 2003 using TSM Server 4.1.0.0 and client 4.2.1.0?? I've accidentally deleted a single OU in AD 2003. Any help would be appreciated. SYSTEMSERVICE and SYSTEMSTATE backups for Windows 2003 are not supported until TSM version 5, IIRC. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Open File Support for which files
Run a backup of C:\documents and settings\. Under this folder in subfolders you will see *.dat and *.dat.log files. These can not be backed up unless you have OFS running. This will help you verify that OFS is working correctly Thomas Rupp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:According to IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows: Backup-Archive Clients Installation and User's Guide page 62: Some applications can create files and open these files in such a way as to deny access to all other processes on a Microsoft Windows operating system. ... The following is the error message that is seen in the dsmerror.log when a Tivoli Storage Manager backup encounters one of these locked files without OFS support enabled: ANS4987E Error processing '\\machine1\d$\dir1\lockedfile.xyz': the object is in use by another process ANS1228E Sending of object '\\machine1\d$\dir1\lockedfile.xyz' failed -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mike Hagery Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. August 2005 12:38 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: [ADSM-L] Open File Support for which files Hello, I'm testing with the OFS option on Windows and I try to left some files open, like Access, Word, Excel, text-file on a file-server, but so far I didn't get any open file messages. Now I'm wondering for what kind of files (and when they appear as open during back-up) you can use the OFS option? Thanks, Mike _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: TSM Ver 5.3 and ACSLS
TSM has been able to connect to an STK library running ACSLS since V5.1. New in V5.3 is the ability to share the library between two or more TSM instances within TSM. Prior to V5.3 you had to purchase EDT to share drives in an STK library controlled by ACSLS. I haven't seen anything posted about not supporting ACSLS in V5.3. Dave Zarnoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I remember seeing an email previously announcing that TSM Ver 5.3 and ACSLS is not supported at this time. Am I correct? Thanks! DaveZ - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
MS SQL partial log restore with TDP
Recently a customer of mine pointed out the fact that you could use the TDP for SQL to restore to a point in time which means replaying part but not all of a log. I actually didn't know you could do this. For all of the DR tests I've been involved with we've wanted to get all the data in the logs. Finding out they could do this brought up the following question. If you first choose to reply to a certain point in time say today at 15:00 and then after the restore you find that you really needed to replay the logs up to 16:00 can you go back in through the TDP or by any other means and choose to reply another hour of the log? Or, do you have to perform the entire restore over again stating this time with a point in time of 16:00. Del?, Anyone? Kyle - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: Problems with BMR on W2K (missing DLL's after restore)
Mike, Seeing Leigh's post made me remember our IIS\Win2K restores from a few years back. I'm 99.9% sure that we ran into problems with dll's as well before we got out doc corrected ensureing to uncheck IIS during the install. With Windows 2003 IIS isn't checked by default so you don' thave to remember to uncheck anything. Good catch Leigh! Leigh Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that your problem lies with your vanilla install. You appear to have installed W2K with SP3 to make the install mirror your live system, but I think the mistake you have made is to also install IIS. You should not install IIS as this means that it is running during the restore and therefore does not allow certain .dll's to be overwritten. It appears from your post that you are backing up the dll's and they are on the TSM server, but when you try to restore them, your vanilla OS won't allow the current dll's to be overwritten, as IIS is running. I believe the answer will be to reinstall your vanilla OS without IIS. Hope this helps. Leigh - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: Anyone backing up Cisco Unity Product to TSM (Voicemail only)
This list is the 3rd party software that the CSA agent for Unity supports. REF: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps2237/prod_release_note09186a0080424e37.html Supported Optional Software Only the following optional software has been qualified for use on a Cisco Unity server that is running Cisco Security Agent for Cisco Unity: Adobe Acrobat Reader, version 4 and later. McAfee NetShield for Microsoft Windows NT and Windows 2000, version 4.5 and later. Trend Micro ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange 2000, version 5 and later. ServerProtect for Microsoft Windows, version 5.5 Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition, version 8.1 and later. Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Windows NT and Windows 2000, version 5.02 and later. VERITAS Backup Exec for Microsoft Windows NT and Windows 2000, version 8.6. NetBackup, version 4.5 and later. Windows Automatic Update. It must be configured not to automatically download updates to the Cisco Unity server. WinZip, version 7 and later Brents, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Per Cisco, TSM is not a supported backup software for Unity servers. The supported backup software are Veritas BackupExec 8.5 or NetBackup 4.5 and later. Regards, James -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy L Backhaus Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:28 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Anyone backing up Cisco Unity Product to TSM (Voicemail only) Hello, I have been instructed to find out if there is any other TSM environments backing up Cisco Unity for voicemail to TSM. Looking for feedback on any gotcha's, whitepaper, info, etc. I looked and didn't find any info on Tivoli IBM site, ADSM site. Background: Cisco Unity Cisco Unity Version - 4.0.5 On Box Message Store Combination of anExchange Server(Win2003) + SQL Server(Win2000) Will be installing TSM Client Version 5.2.3.5 Estimation of backup -140 gig Background: TSM TSM Server 5.2.3.5 Op System AIX 5.2 Mod 2 Thank You. Nancy Backhaus Enterprise Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: (716) 887-7979 Cell: (716) 609-2138 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential, trade secret or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: Strange issue with a Windows server
I just read that tech note and it says that you should call Microsoft to recreate the checkpoint file. You can also use these steps. Appendix B How to correctly reset the TSM password for the node that is used to backup the cluster resources. Note: these steps must be followed or else the password will not be correctly set in the Microsoft Cluster *.cpt file on the Quorum drive. 1. Stop TSM Cluster Resources 1.1. Start | Programs | Administrative Tools | Cluster Administrator 1.2. In the Open Connection to Cluster box type the name of this cluster 1.3. Click the + in front of Groups in the left-hand pane. 1.4. Click on the group name. (Usually there is one group name called Cluster Group). 2. Right Click on the Cluster Resource called TSM Central Scheduler-Cluster | Take Offline 3. Remove Key replication 3.1. Right Click on the Cluster Resource called TSM Central Scheduler-Cluster | Properties 3.2. Click on the Registry Replication tab 3.3. Select the Registry key that is being replicated in the box under Root Registry Key. 3.4. Click Modify 3.5. Copy the value in the box under Root Registry Key. 3.6. Click OK 3.7. Click Remove 3.8. Click OK 4. Change TSM Password 4.1. On the TSM server set the password 4.2. On the side of the cluster where all the cluster resources are currently online run: dsmc verbose -optfile=r:\tsmcluster\dsm.opt 5. Add Key replication 5.1. Right Click on the Cluster Resource called TSM Central Scheduler-Cluster | Properties 5.2. Click on the Registry Replication tab 5.3. Click Add 5.4. Paste the value that you copied into the box under Root Registry Key. 5.5. Click OK 5.6. Click OK Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks all -- Richard, this one seems to have solved the problem (we'll know tonight). Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Strange issue with a Windows server Tom - Have a look at IBM Technote 1110519 Richard Sims __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Windows x64 support
Is anyone backup up Windows x64 with TSM yet? I looked at the latest readmes and I didn't see any mention specifically of x64. For more information on what x64 is see: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/64bit/bulletin.mspx Basically it is a version of windows that will run both 32 bit and 64 bit applications. The Tivoli Field Guide - Tivoli Storage Manager Recovery Techniques Using Windows Preinstallation Environment (Windows PE) mentions x64 so I'm assuming Tivoli has tested on it. I'm just wondering if it is officially supported to run the 32 bit TSM client on this system? Also, are there plans to create a 64 bit client for it? I see that someone else has posted a question to this list twice in June but there were no responses on adsm.org that I could find. Kyle __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Windows x64 support
Could I trouble you to send it again. I searched http://search.adsm.org/ before I sent out the question. I just went back and I searched for 64, then win 64, then 12 July 2005 and finally Andy Raibeck. I didn't see anything from you in July of 2005 so maybe it hasn't been index'd yet. Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See my response from around July 12 to a similar question re: x64 support. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 2005-07-27 06:53:14: Is anyone backup up Windows x64 with TSM yet? I looked at the latest readmes and I didn't see any mention specifically of x64. For more information on what x64 is see: http://www.microsoft. com/windowsserversystem/64bit/bulletin.mspx Basically it is a version of windows that will run both 32 bit and 64 bit applications. The Tivoli Field Guide - Tivoli Storage Manager Recovery Techniques Using Windows Preinstallation Environment (Windows PE) mentions x64 so I'm assuming Tivoli has tested on it. I'm just wondering if it is officially supported to run the 32 bit TSM client on this system? Also, are there plans to create a 64 bit client for it? I see that someone else has posted a question to this list twice in June but there were no responses on adsm.org that I could find. Kyle __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Windows x64 support
The problem is that this link doesn't say which 64 bit windows OS is supported one or both? If you follow then link I provided you'll see that there are now two different 64 bit operating systems from Microsoft. First there is the Itanium version which is not run on x86 processors usually refered to as Windows 2003 Itanium. Then there is the x86 version which runs on the AMD opteron and Intel EM64T CPU's which are x86 processors usually referred to as x64 Windows. For everyone here is what the IBM site says: Windows® Server 2003 - Standard Edition - 32 bit, Enterprise Edition - 32 bit, Datacenter Edition - 32 bit, Enterprise Edition - 64 bit, Datacenter Edition - 64 bit, Windows 2000 Professional, Server, Advanced Server, Datacenter Server. Iain Barnetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kyle, Looking at the supported platforms on IBM's web site, I'd say it does, at least the Enterprise Datacentre editions of 2003. http://www-306.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/storage-mgr/platforms.ht ml However, IBM's web site has been know to be inaccurate before ;) IB -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: 27 July 2005 14:53 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Windows x64 support Is anyone backup up Windows x64 with TSM yet? I looked at the latest readmes and I didn't see any mention specifically of x64. For more information on what x64 is see: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/64bit/bulletin.mspx Basically it is a version of windows that will run both 32 bit and 64 bit applications. The Tivoli Field Guide - Tivoli Storage Manager Recovery Techniques Using Windows Preinstallation Environment (Windows PE) mentions x64 so I'm assuming Tivoli has tested on it. I'm just wondering if it is officially supported to run the 32 bit TSM client on this system? Also, are there plans to create a 64 bit client for it? I see that someone else has posted a question to this list twice in June but there were no responses on adsm.org that I could find. Kyle __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: Windows server imaging
What partition information are you talking about. Are you refereing to the steps where it has you run diskpart? Those aren't that complicated and most Windows admins know how to setup partitions with diskpart. I would bet those that don't won't undertake the WinPE restore to begin with. K Egon Blouder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, one major problem I have/see in using 1) is the lack of restore of partition information. That has to be done manually. IMHO that should be a few lines of code that must Tivoli add to TSM. Regards, ..-- TSM_User wrote: Opps, below I said you can get disimilar hardware to work with ASR. I meant you can't. Sorry. TSM_User wrote: 1) You can use TSM to run an online image backup. Then TSM and WinPE to create an offline image restore. 2) You can use ASR. 3) You can simply use the Install OS, Install Client, Restore system state, then restore OS drive. You can get ASR to work with dissimilar hardware but you can run through an In-Place upgrade after the image restore or after the regular restore. It is a seperate mini install that you run after the restore from the MS installation media. Basically it re-enumarates the hardware but leaves all the software intact so your not prompted for server name, key and stuff like that the second time around. I've used this method to go from old MCP motherboards to new ACPI. I've went from single processor machines to dual. From one raid controller to another. It all works. I have nothing against Cristie. I'll just say that when you go through the process using the In-Place upgrade it is hard to justify the cost per server to save a few hours. If Cristie was $25 US per server then I'd recommend you get it for every server in your shop. But I belive the cost is many $100's which I can't justify when the manual process works so well and only hads 5 minutes of work time and about 1.5 hours to the restore. Kyle Prather, Wanda wrote: My 2 cents: TSM recovery with Windows ASR (WIn2K3 and XP only, not Win2K) is terrific, because 1) you don't have to create images ahead of time 2) TSM saves the data you need every time it runs a backup 3) it is not impacted by hardware changes 4) it doesn't cost anything 5) it doesn't' require additional software to be installed on the client BUT, if you are planning to use it in an offsite DR situation, you have the problem that Microsoft doesn't restoring the System Object from one machine to another. Full instructions for use are in the TSM client manual. Christie BMR may be better depending on your circumstances 1) you have to walk through a process of saving the system config to TSM or a floppy BEFORE you need it 2) it's another piece of software to be licensed, installed and configured on all your clients 3) extra cost BUT, it's the onlye thing I know of that SUPPORTS a bare-metal restore from one Windows machine to the other. Could vastly simplify your offsite recovery at a DR site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows server imaging I wouldn't bother spending the money. You can rebuild a Windows TSM client with just TSM in three majorly different ways, depending upon your circumstances, and a myriad of methods within each way. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry McColgan Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:14 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows server imaging Christie BMR - t -Original Message- From: Richard Mochnaczewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:40 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Windows server imaging Hi Everybody, I've been reading up on the various image/restore methods for Windows servers . What do users favour ? Rich - Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Windows server imaging
1) You can use TSM to run an online image backup. Then TSM and WinPE to create an offline image restore. 2) You can use ASR. 3) You can simply use the Install OS, Install Client, Restore system state, then restore OS drive. You can get ASR to work with dissimilar hardware but you can run through an In-Place upgrade after the image restore or after the regular restore. It is a seperate mini install that you run after the restore from the MS installation media. Basically it re-enumarates the hardware but leaves all the software intact so your not prompted for server name, key and stuff like that the second time around. I've used this method to go from old MCP motherboards to new ACPI. I've went from single processor machines to dual. From one raid controller to another. It all works. I have nothing against Cristie. I'll just say that when you go through the process using the In-Place upgrade it is hard to justify the cost per server to save a few hours. If Cristie was $25 US per server then I'd recommend you get it for every server in your shop. But I belive the cost is many $100's which I can't justify when the manual process works so well and only hads 5 minutes of work time and about 1.5 hours to the restore. Kyle Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 2 cents: TSM recovery with Windows ASR (WIn2K3 and XP only, not Win2K) is terrific, because 1) you don't have to create images ahead of time 2) TSM saves the data you need every time it runs a backup 3) it is not impacted by hardware changes 4) it doesn't cost anything 5) it doesn't' require additional software to be installed on the client BUT, if you are planning to use it in an offsite DR situation, you have the problem that Microsoft doesn't restoring the System Object from one machine to another. Full instructions for use are in the TSM client manual. Christie BMR may be better depending on your circumstances 1) you have to walk through a process of saving the system config to TSM or a floppy BEFORE you need it 2) it's another piece of software to be licensed, installed and configured on all your clients 3) extra cost BUT, it's the onlye thing I know of that SUPPORTS a bare-metal restore from one Windows machine to the other. Could vastly simplify your offsite recovery at a DR site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows server imaging I wouldn't bother spending the money. You can rebuild a Windows TSM client with just TSM in three majorly different ways, depending upon your circumstances, and a myriad of methods within each way. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry McColgan Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:14 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows server imaging Christie BMR - t -Original Message- From: Richard Mochnaczewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:40 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Windows server imaging Hi Everybody, I've been reading up on the various image/restore methods for Windows servers . What do users favour ? Rich - Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
Status on OFS support for Win2K3
Does anyone from Tivoli have any new information on when OFS for Win2K3 might be coming out. I'm not looking for promises just guesses. I've been asked by a number of my customers lately if it will be this year or not. Kyle __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Windows server imaging
Opps, below I said you can get disimilar hardware to work with ASR. I meant you can't. Sorry. TSM_User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) You can use TSM to run an online image backup. Then TSM and WinPE to create an offline image restore. 2) You can use ASR. 3) You can simply use the Install OS, Install Client, Restore system state, then restore OS drive. You can get ASR to work with dissimilar hardware but you can run through an In-Place upgrade after the image restore or after the regular restore. It is a seperate mini install that you run after the restore from the MS installation media. Basically it re-enumarates the hardware but leaves all the software intact so your not prompted for server name, key and stuff like that the second time around. I've used this method to go from old MCP motherboards to new ACPI. I've went from single processor machines to dual. From one raid controller to another. It all works. I have nothing against Cristie. I'll just say that when you go through the process using the In-Place upgrade it is hard to justify the cost per server to save a few hours. If Cristie was $25 US per server then I'd recommend you get it for every server in your shop. But I belive the cost is many $100's which I can't justify when the manual process works so well and only hads 5 minutes of work time and about 1.5 hours to the restore. Kyle Prather, Wanda wrote: My 2 cents: TSM recovery with Windows ASR (WIn2K3 and XP only, not Win2K) is terrific, because 1) you don't have to create images ahead of time 2) TSM saves the data you need every time it runs a backup 3) it is not impacted by hardware changes 4) it doesn't cost anything 5) it doesn't' require additional software to be installed on the client BUT, if you are planning to use it in an offsite DR situation, you have the problem that Microsoft doesn't restoring the System Object from one machine to another. Full instructions for use are in the TSM client manual. Christie BMR may be better depending on your circumstances 1) you have to walk through a process of saving the system config to TSM or a floppy BEFORE you need it 2) it's another piece of software to be licensed, installed and configured on all your clients 3) extra cost BUT, it's the onlye thing I know of that SUPPORTS a bare-metal restore from one Windows machine to the other. Could vastly simplify your offsite recovery at a DR site. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows server imaging I wouldn't bother spending the money. You can rebuild a Windows TSM client with just TSM in three majorly different ways, depending upon your circumstances, and a myriad of methods within each way. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry McColgan Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:14 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows server imaging Christie BMR - t -Original Message- From: Richard Mochnaczewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:40 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Windows server imaging Hi Everybody, I've been reading up on the various image/restore methods for Windows servers . What do users favour ? Rich - Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Exclude statement
\...\ means all directories and sub directories so when there are two folders \one\two\ you only need a single \...\ you don't need two of them as in your example. Shannon Bach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an extra directory in there you're not coveringtry this, c$\Documents and Settings\jadmin\Local Settings\Temp\hsperfdata_jadmin\5236 *:\...\...\Local Settings\Temp\...\* Madison Gas Electric Co Operations Analyst -Data Center Services Information Management Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office 608-252-7260 Larry Peifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 06/27/2005 03:07 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: Exclude statement Well yes, EXCLUDE *:\...\Local Settings\Temp\...\* was my first choice also but it isn't working any other ideas? Bos, Karel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 06/27/2005 09:30 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Exclude statement Hi, Just add EXCLUDE *:\...\Local Settings\Temp\...\* Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Peifer Sent: maandag 27 juni 2005 18:13 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Exclude statement The following files are failing during backup of our Win2003 node using TSM Client 5.3.0 and TSM Server 5.3.1 on AIX. \\sosim\c$\Documents and Settings\jadmin\Local Settings\Temp\hsperfdata_jadmin\5236 \\sosim\c$\Documents and Settings\jadmin\Local Settings\Temp\hsperfdata_jadmin\9544 \\sosim\c$\Documents and Settings\jadmin\Local Settings\Temp\hsperfdata_jadmin\9860 I'm trying to exclude everything below the ...\Local Settings\Temp\ directory structure. So I've added this line to the dsm.opt file. EXCLUDE *:\...\Local Settings\Temp\* We're running the CAD to control the Scheduler and have SCHEDMODE set to polling; all of which is working fine. I've added other patterns for exclude processing and they are all working fine. It's just this one that I must be missing something with. Thanks in advance. Larry Peifer San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station UNIX System Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ?? What character escapes wildcards % and _ for SELECTing literal % or _ ??
Looks like when you want to actually search for an _ or % you have to tell SQL what character you want to use as an escape. I couldn't find anything that said what the default escape character is so maybe this is the only way to do it. Anyway here is what works select node_name from nodes where node_name like '%\_%' escape '\' When you use the word escape followed by quotes and any character in the quotes that character will be treated like an escape character. So the following will work also select node_name from nodes where node_name like '%!_%' escape '!' google is my friend I searched for escape character for SQL selects and the first hit was an example. I then tested it and it appears to work. The page that came up was http://www.techonthenet.com/sql/like.htm. This page had a lot of good information where it explains Kyle James R Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Hey: If you're really in a hurry, skip to the next page, and see (@), but you might miss some fun(ny, perhaps even useful?) stuff!] I just accidentally discovered [!much to my surprise!] that... The underscore _ character is the SQL SELECT standard wildcard to match any single character in the specified position, e.g., select node_name from nodes where node_name like '_A_' [lists all nodes w/ names 3 characters long w/ 'A' in the middle. [Probably] we all[ready] know [or have discovered] that... The percent % character is the SQL SELECT standard wildcard to match zero or more characters [but NOT a NULL string!] select node_name from nodes where node_name like '%-%' [lists all nodes w/ hyphenated names, and also bizarre names like '-', '+-', '1-0', '.-.', '...---...' (morse code!), etc.] Now, what I really want is a list of nodes w/ names including a literal underscore _ character so I first tried... select node_name from nodes where node_name like '%_%' [which seems to be exactly equivalent to...] select node_name from nodes where node_name like '%' [Both list all existing nodes (because node_name can't be null!)] Then I borrowed an Oracle DBA's SQL ref.manual and found... The backslash / character is the SQL SELECT standard escape used preceding a wildcard to match that (following) character literally. (@) So, I tried again... tsm: TSTselect node_name from nodes where node_name like '%\_%' ANR2034E SELECT: No match found using this criteria. ANS8001I Return code 11. tsm: TSTselect node_name from nodes where node_name like '%_OB' NODE_NAME -- xx_OB y-OB z_OB aaa_OB _OB OB tsm: TST [names partially changed to protect the innocent] !!!What to do??? [Please, don't say there's no escape!] ITSM 5.2.3.0 w/ AIX 5.2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (203.432.6693) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup
Yet another thing to remember is that sometimes the MFT can get fragmented. Disk Keeper has a feature that will defragement it as well as the file system. I believe you can choose to just defrag the MFT if you want. Some of my customers have said that they saw noticeable improvement in the backups on their large file servers after running a Defrag of the MFT with disk Keeper. TSM_User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I replied to the list about using windows mount points. A reply was sent back about it being the opposit of what they wanted. Well I had this thought. If you have an imaging system (or any other application) that can only use one drive letter why not use mount points for that drive. Have a server with 10 drives with 100 GB each (D: - M:) Then use mount points to get all 1 TB of space behind the D:\. The application will then use the D:\ alone. Mean while you can run the backup on all 10 drives. For details on how to set this up you need to consult the Microsoft doc. There is plenty on MS's website. Of course if the system is already setup then you'd need to add the drives and mount points. Then move the folders under those mount points. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football
15,000,000 + files on one directory backup
I replied to the list about using windows mount points. A reply was sent back about it being the opposit of what they wanted. Well I had this thought. If you have an imaging system (or any other application) that can only use one drive letter why not use mount points for that drive. Have a server with 10 drives with 100 GB each (D: - M:) Then use mount points to get all 1 TB of space behind the D:\. The application will then use the D:\ alone. Mean while you can run the backup on all 10 drives. For details on how to set this up you need to consult the Microsoft doc. There is plenty on MS's website. Of course if the system is already setup then you'd need to add the drives and mount points. Then move the folders under those mount points. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup
Richard, the backup does not take long because of the communication with the TSM server. It is the reading of the MFT (Master File Table) on the client itself that takes time. Each drive has its own MFT. Also more importantly TSM will only start one producer thread per logical drive. So if there were seperate physical drives then you chould get a seperate set of producer and comsumer threads running on each one. We had a server with 3 logical drives with about 1 million files on each. It took 3 hours or so to backup with resource utilization set to 2. When we raised it to 10 it took under 1 hour to run. Kyle Still at a certain point even with resource utilzation set to 20 Dearman, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but the long backup time is because of the time it takes the TSM client to query the TSM database for backup file candidates and not due to the actual movement of files from the client to the TSM server. So how pulling from 10 separate drives increase the query speed. For instance it takes hours and GB of memory on my client for the client to query the TSM server for file info for 15 million files even though the actual backup will end up being 11,000 files consisting of 300mb. And the backup take over 17+ hours to complete. This is running from a GigE connection with my client with 4 cpus and 6GB of memory although it is Win2k. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup No, because you're pulling data off of 10 separate physical drives. It's likely to be significantly faster. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dearman, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:46 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup Wouldn't the backup take close to the same amount of time has using one mount point. Because the TSM client on that one server still had to go through 15 million files whether its doing it in one session or 10 sessions. I am experiencing the same problem of an imaging system. I am trying to go the snapshot image route of the 12 millions 300Gb of files and sending them to disk storage pool then off to 3592 tapes nightly. It will grow to 1Tb of the next year. I'm not sure how imaging will work on such a large file system. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:32 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup I replied to the list about using windows mount points. A reply was sent back about it being the opposit of what they wanted. Well I had this thought. If you have an imaging system (or any other application) that can only use one drive letter why not use mount points for that drive. Have a server with 10 drives with 100 GB each (D: - M:) Then use mount points to get all 1 TB of space behind the D:\. The application will then use the D:\ alone. Mean while you can run the backup on all 10 drives. For details on how to set this up you need to consult the Microsoft doc. There is plenty on MS's website. Of course if the system is already setup then you'd need to add the drives and mount points. Then move the folders under those mount points. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947. **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health
Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup
Also, with my suggestion you don't need to have 10 different nodes. You can have one node. With resource utilization of 10 I believe you will have up to 4 producer and 4 consumer threads. It's been a while since I saw the doc on that exact setting to thread count. If you want more you can set it higher like 30. Just remember at some point the available resources on the server will come into play so change that setting with care. My main point was if you can get the data onto 10 logical drives then the TSM backup will start seperate producer threads. When you have all 15,000,000 files on one drive you get one producer thread running on the whole drive. K Egon Blouder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, how can I store any data as filespaces of one node(virtualnode) in that case? I don't want to setup 10 different webagents for doing restores. Thanks ..-- Stapleton, Mark wrote: You create 10 separate nodes, one for each mountpoint (drive). You can then run 10 separate backup threads; each thread has (in theory) 1/10th as many files to filter through before a backup begins. It's done that way a lot in such cases. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dearman, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:06 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup Yes, but the long backup time is because of the time it takes the TSM client to query the TSM database for backup file candidates and not due to the actual movement of files from the client to the TSM server. So how pulling from 10 separate drives increase the query speed. For instance it takes hours and GB of memory on my client for the client to query the TSM server for file info for 15 million files even though the actual backup will end up being 11,000 files consisting of 300mb. And the backup take over 17+ hours to complete. This is running from a GigE connection with my client with 4 cpus and 6GB of memory although it is Win2k. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup No, because you're pulling data off of 10 separate physical drives. It's likely to be significantly faster. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Office 262.521.5627 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dearman, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:46 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup Wouldn't the backup take close to the same amount of time has using one mount point. Because the TSM client on that one server still had to go through 15 million files whether its doing it in one session or 10 sessions. I am experiencing the same problem of an imaging system. I am trying to go the snapshot image route of the 12 millions 300Gb of files and sending them to disk storage pool then off to 3592 tapes nightly. It will grow to 1Tb of the next year. I'm not sure how imaging will work on such a large file system. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:32 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup I replied to the list about using windows mount points. A reply was sent back about it being the opposit of what they wanted. Well I had this thought. If you have an imaging system (or any other application) that can only use one drive letter why not use mount points for that drive. Have a server with 10 drives with 100 GB each (D: - M:) Then use mount points to get all 1 TB of space behind the D:\. The application will then use the D:\ alone. Mean while you can run the backup on all 10 drives. For details on how to set this up you need to consult the Microsoft doc. There is plenty on MS's website. Of course if the system is already setup then you'd need to add the drives and mount points. Then move the folders under those mount points. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended
Re: Backup of large server (15+ Million objects)
Actually with both Windows 2000 and Windows 2003 you can create what is like a mount point in Unix land. Search MS's site for junction point OR mount point. Bill Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a single drive letter, G:, so I can't separate it into multiple nodes or even schedules. Plus virtualmountpoint is only valid for Unix's, not Windoze. Thanks. Bill -- Original message -- Hi Bill 1. Separating it into multiple TSM nodes, for example one node per filespace 2. Using the virtual mount point option Both theese options should decrease the time TSM spends on inspecting the filespaces. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervdgen 6B 183 62 TDBY Vdxel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Bill Boyer Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 2005-06-14 16:36 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Backup of large server (15+ Million objects) Windows 2000 server with TSM client 5.3.0.8. TSM server 5.2.2.0 on Windows2000 Configured the journal service with a larger notify buffer, but we just can't get the first incremental to complete. We see in the server activity log that the session was terminated by the client. Running in managed services mode. Any suggestions on backup strategies on this large of a server? Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Bare Metal Restore for Windows 2003 / Disaster recovery of Windows 2003
I've tested all the options. I really like the on-line image backup and the off-line image restore with WinPE. Note if you se a Windows 2003 built WinPE cd you must be at TSM client V5.3.0.5 or later. K. David Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bare Metal Restore for Windows 2003 We are trying to figure out the best way to do a bare metal restore of Win2003. Does anyone recommend using ASR, PE, Cristie or something else? The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. - Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news more. Check it out!
Re: Windows and device addressing for TSM (Make it stop!!!)
Wanda, Persistent binding is very easy to setup in a Windows environment. We could all argue at great length on whether it should be handled by MS better but nearly all HBA manufacturers have a mechanism to setup persistent binding. Specifically we use Emulex cards and there is a utility that comes with the drivers for the HBA that lets you do this. Again, very easily all you have to do is read the doc. I know that QLogic and JNI also have this feature. So MS doesn't take care of it but the manufacturers of the HBA's do. Kyle Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could use some help from any Windows gurus out there: HOW do I keep Windows from changing the addresses of the TSM devices? This server is Win2K3 (but the same thing has occurred on Win2K), TSM is 5.2.2.5. There are fibre connections from 2 HBA's to 2 different SAN switches. 1 Fibre cable from each SAN switch to 1 LTO drive in a 3583 (that way if we lose a switch, we can still access at least 1 drive). Yesterday in order to clean up a big tangle of fibre cables, the Windows admin disconnected 1 fibre cable from the HBA, untangled things and plugged the cable back into the HBA, EXACTLY the same connection. Repeat for the other cable. Windows RENUMBERED the library and tape drives (For example, mt2.0.0.2 became mt1.0.0.2). I saw the same thing once after a power outage, when the server came up before the switch was powered up. Now, I know that to get TSM working again, all I have to do is install the LTO drivers for these new devices, and update the TSM path for each device. But I would really like to understand WHY this happens, and how we can avoid it. I would like to go on vacation one day, without worrying that this should happen while I'm gone! Any insight appreciated! Wanda Prather * I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O * -(me) - Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel more fun for the weekend. Check it out!
Re: Buggy exclude?
If you copied the exclude from your dsm.inclexcl then I don't see a problem. But if you typed it is there a chance that you have a space after the second slash and before the first period (i.e Exclude /tmp/ .../*) Rick Harderwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've got a problem with a 5.2.x client on Linux talking to a 5.2.1.3 Windows-based TSM server This a client option is set on the server: EXCLUDE /tmp/.../* The following error gets logged: ANS1042S Include/Exclude pattern has a '...' without beginning/ending directory delimiter I don't see anything wrong, or have I been staring at it for too long? Kind regards, Rick Harderwijk Systems Administrator Factotum Media B.V. Postbus 335, 1200 AH Hilversum Oosterengweg 44, 1212 CN Hilversum The Netherlands Phone: +31-(0)35-6881166 Fax: +31-(0)35-6881199 Cell: +31-(0)6-551 64 64 5 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.factotummedia.nl - Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel more fun for the weekend. Check it out!
Re: password
Seeing this post prompted me to run a test. It appears that Windows 2003 cluster ensures the replication of the changed password happens right away, not when the group fails over. Details: I have 3 test clusters a Windows 2000 cluster a Windows 2003 cluster and a Windows 2003 Itanium cluster. I set the password expiration for all the nodes on all clusters to 1 day. The next day the password changed as it should. The registry reflected the new password on all nodes that currently own the group that TSM service is in. On the Windows 2003 clusters the password matched. On the Windows 2000 cluster the node that did not own the group still had the old password. As you suggest a controlled move of the group did update the password however it took that. So I see where a system crash would result in an invalid password on the other side of the cluster. However, it looks like a Windows 2003 cluster does not have this issue. I know that Windows 2000 is still out there but with advanced features like clustering. I've found more and more people migrating to Windows 2003 so if your there you don't have the same fear and thus should be able to use the password expiration. Wheelock, Michael D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The answer is that it depends. 1) For the normal backup/archive client and the ms-sql and ms-exchange clients, this is no problem. They will change their passwords without issue. 2) The oracle client cannot change its password on its own. 3) Microsoft clusters (IMHO) should still be set to 0. Here is why (from experience no less). The encrypted password for a B/A client is stored in the registry. The manual states that you need to have the generic service you setup in cluster administrator copy over this reg key when the service moves. This only works in the world where servers don't crash. If the server crashes, the key does not get copied (how can it...the server that had it is down) and the service can fail to start (likely because it has the old password). 4) Unix B/A has no problem with this. Others may be able to speak to the domino clients, etc as I have no experience with them. Michael Wheelock Integris Health -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Collins Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: password We use password access generate on all of our configurations. In the past, we have used expiration 0 so that we do not run into issues with expirations. We are now being asked to set up an expiration period and I am wondering if the 'passwordaccess generate' is going to create a new password itself upon expiration or just fail the backup. The manual does not state that it will do that and I do not want backups failing as a result of the passwords expiring. I have heard answers both ways on this configuration. For anyone expiring passwords, are you resetting them manually or does this happen automatically? Thanks, Brenda ** This e-mail may contain identifiable health information that is subject to protection under state and federal law. This information is intended to be for the use of the individual named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be punishable by law. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail (reply). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Win 2003 Server w/SP1 and TSM 5.2.3 Not backing up
Isn't the WIndows firewall thats in XP installed on Win2K3 with SP1. I check the control panel for the firwall settings. You may need to enable the ports that TSM uses or setup the client port option. Consiglio, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello, Has anyone seen an issue with Windows 2003 SP1 and TSM 5.2.3 missing due to no response from client to the server? The server's logs report that the session times out and can not communicate with target (my W2K3 server). However the Client's DSMSched.log file reports that it is waiting for the server's next backup job. We do have host based IDS software on servers but I have stopped the service and ran a test backup and the same results happen. Is there any known issue or APAR or hot fix for this? TiA Tony Anthony F.Consiglio Supervising Systems Analyst - Project Leader LAN Systems - CIT E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site!
Backing up VMWare from Guest -vs- backing up .dsk files
I have quite a few customers that are running VMWare and so far all of them have decided to just backup from within the virtual machine for the following reasons: 1) Being that TSM is licensed per physical CPU there is no cost savings in using a single client license running on the ESX server to backup the .dsk files. 2) When you backup inside the VM you can either restore the data back onto a new VM or onto a real server if you like. Some of my customers run the VM at their site but have separate old servers at the hot site for recovery. 3) Most of the time VM's end up being smaller applications. As a result there really isn't a huge need to improve the backup or restore time. I've been told that they can still run an image based backup from within the VM as well. I haven't done this myself but if this is the case then you could still get a fast image backup and restore. 4) Who will officially support problems when you run into problems with backing up the VM Ware files and restores don't work. With those reasons above and the recent posts about issues with backup and recovery of the VM Files I'm wondering what reasons their are for backing up the .dsk files. Still, I'm sure there are reasons out there. I'd be interested in hearing from the people who are choosing to backup the .dsk files why they decided to go that route. - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site!
Re: Backing up VMWare from Guest -vs- backing up .dsk fi les
Ok, we have got dissimilar hardware recovery down packed. So long as you use a slip streamed Windows Install CD and you run through the In-Place upgrade you shouldn't have any problems with dissimilar hardware because the process completely re-enumerates the hardware. Steve Schaub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our biggest driver was DR. Getting some of our app and AD servers restored running on dissimilar hardware was getting too complicated unreliable. We weren't keeping many versions of files on these servers anyway, so keeping versions of the .vmdk files is not that big of a deal to us. Loading ESX restoring vm's is easier for us to manage at the hotsite than multiple physicals. Now if I could only get it to work consistantly. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM_User Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:05 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Backing up VMWare from Guest -vs- backing up .dsk files I have quite a few customers that are running VMWare and so far all of them have decided to just backup from within the virtual machine for the following reasons: 1) Being that TSM is licensed per physical CPU there is no cost savings in using a single client license running on the ESX server to backup the .dsk files. 2) When you backup inside the VM you can either restore the data back onto a new VM or onto a real server if you like. Some of my customers run the VM at their site but have separate old servers at the hot site for recovery. 3) Most of the time VM's end up being smaller applications. As a result there really isn't a huge need to improve the backup or restore time. I've been told that they can still run an image based backup from within the VM as well. I haven't done this myself but if this is the case then you could still get a fast image backup and restore. 4) Who will officially support problems when you run into problems with backing up the VM Ware files and restores don't work. With those reasons above and the recent posts about issues with backup and recovery of the VM Files I'm wondering what reasons their are for backing up the .dsk files. Still, I'm sure there are reasons out there. I'd be interested in hearing from the people who are choosing to backup the .dsk files why they decided to go that route. - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site! Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Domino Transaction Logs Archive
I don't have any valuable information to add to this thread but I thought I'd note that their is a Technical Exchange planned for May 31st on the TDP for domino in a Unix environment. Also I realize that this server is a Windows server but maybe some of this information is the same regardless of Windows or Unix. At the very least you can the experts at Tivoli these questions. More on the Exchange: Tivoli Support Technical Exchange Presented by ISST - IBM Software Services for Tivoli Using Data Protection for Lotus Domino on Unix Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 10:00 AM US CDT 16:00 UK 17:00 CET - Greetings Technical Professionals, Presenters: Brian Pendergrass - Tivoli Software Group TSM Level 2 Support Engineer Description: This call covers setup, configuration, and use of IBM TSM for Mail: Data Protection for Lotus Domino in a Unix environment. It includes configuration, explanation of internals, and helpful troubleshooting techniques. Please check the Support Technical Exchange website for any possible changes to this web conference at: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/supp_tech_exch.html ** Make sure to test your connection to the web conference facility at least one day prior to the scheduled web conference. The connectivity test can be conducted at the following URL: https://www-1.ibm.com/collaboration/collaboratenow/logon.jsp Web Conference URL https://www-1.ibm.com/collaboration/webconferences/meetingdetails.jsp?meetingId=EB7ADC2E92247DB47DCCBDCD12F7A7A7 Web Conference Password: tiv0li (the 0 is a zero). You will use the tiv0li to log into the actual live web conference once you sign into the web conference facility. IBM employees please use your IBM internet ID and password to log into the web conference facility. Please dial in to the following telephone numbers to ask questions and hear the audio. Confirmation Code: 8854473 US...(800) 967-7184 Intl.(719) 457-2633 IBM Tie Line...650-2006 In Country #: France..0800-914669 Germany.0800-1007413 Netherlands.0800-0230902 Norway..800-15504 Belgium.0800-75945 Spain...900-991839 Denmark.8088-2496 Switzerland.0800-89-6977 United Kingdom..08-000289792 IBM Employees, please click once on the button below to add this web conference to your Lotus Notes calendar. Please mark this great event on your calendar. We look forward to your participation. best regards, Kimberly Arceneaux ISST Skills Certification [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ext: 512-286-3719, T/L: 966-3719 Bill Dourado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Our Domino Server is rebooted automatically every Tuesday at 06:30 hrs., to clear memory says our Notes Administrator. Transaction logging takes place every two hours, and anything between 4 and 12 logs are archived, except once after the reboot every Tuesday where over 140 logs are archived at 08:00 hrs. (the next archive schedule) Is this normal behaviour ? Aren't logs supposed to be archived once only ? TSM SERVER 5.2.2.0 on Windows Server 2003 Domino 6.5 on Windows Server 2003 Data Protection for Lotus Domino 5.1.5.01 TIA Bill - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site!
Re: Virtual tape libraries
Sorry in the last e-mail I meant you can alter this. TSM_User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The VTL's that I have seen set the defaults to the size estimed to the drive as you suggest but all the ones I've seen you can later this. For intance on our EMC CDL's emulating LTO 2 tape drives we set the volume limit to 50 GB. Further most have a initial setting and incremental growth. Again on the CDL's the default is 5 GB. So even though a VTL volume could grow up to 50 GB it starts up at 5 GB and grows in those increments. So are you sure 2 GB is the limit or is that just the incremental growth? Wheelock, Michael D wrote: Hi, Most VTL's that I have encountered emulate a real tape drive (ie. Brand and model) and thus their cartridge size is based on this (ie. 200 GB for LTO1, etc). I would find out why this vtl has this limitation. As to the db growth, others may have a better idea, but I have always found that adding volumes wasn't nearly as big a deal as adding more backed up data (ie. If I bring in 20 more servers with 10,000's each, that overshadows anything else as far as the db is concerned). Michael Wheelock Integris Health -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Evans Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:02 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Virtual tape libraries I have been experimenting with a virtual tape library connected to TSM (Windows 2k3 5.1.6.3 server) All seems to work perfectly and TSM is none the wiser. However, The maximum cartridge size in this virtual library is 2GB. I am currently using LTO1 and getting upto 100 times this amount of data on one tape. My database is 56GB and I currently have approx 600 volumes My question is.. if I were to move to a virtual library and had to increase the number of my volumes by up to 10 times What impact would this have on my database ? Thanks in advance Jon Evans Storage Consultant KBR ** This e-mail may contain identifiable health information that is subject to protection under state and federal law. This information is intended to be for the use of the individual named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be punishable by law. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail (reply). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM more. Check it out!
Re: weird request
First let me say I really agree with Andrew. That being said, I believe robocopy 2003 has the ability to copy data based on last modified and last accessed dates. You can do either or both I believe. In order to accomplish what this customer wants you could first copy the stuff out using that feature, delete all the data and then copy it back. This is of course extremely risky so I would back it up first which would seem to negate the whole process. However, if your nice you could back the data up temporarily to a new node name of filespace and then if everything works after the delete and the copy back you could purge the data from TSM by deleting the node or filespace. Anyway, I've seen a similar request when moving data to new hardware. I've had a few customers clean house this way. Still, in all those cases they said back it up first so if we need it we can get it. Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no filtering option in TSM to do this. Using the age of a file to determine whether to back it up is, in my own opinion, ill-advised. If the customer does not care to back up these files, then why not simply cut to the chase and delete them? After all, if the disk were to be lost tomorrow, they wouldn't be recoverable. If the customer balks at the idea of deleting them outright, then that would suggest a re-think of the backup strategy (what would the customer's reaction be if someone actually did this?) The good news is that if the files don't change, TSM's incremental approach will only back them up once (okay, twice if you back up your storage pools, which is recommended). Of course, some of these files are probably junk or temporary files that are no longer needed, in which case it might be worthwhile to comb through those files and clean up the truly unneeded ones. Just my own thoughts on the subject. :-) Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 2005-05-20 10:30:47: Hi All, I received a weird request from potential customer. Because we will charge him per space occupied on our server, he wants to backup only files less than a year old. He doesn't want to go into each folder and try to find files that meet the criteria. I know that Arcserve has that filter option. I don't think that we can do it with TSM, but before give him an answer I thought I would check opinion of The List. Thanks in advance, Joe Crnjanski Infinity Network Solutions Inc. Phone: 416-235-0931 x26 Fax: 416-235-0265 Web: www.infinitynetwork.com - Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel more fun for the weekend. Check it out!
Re: weird request
This made me think as well you could use the robocopy command to run in preview mode to a log file I believe with the copy feature of last access or modify. This might give you a list of what data would not get backed up and thus give the customer something to go on. (I must really seem like a RoboCopy advocate. Well I've done a ton of file server migrations the past few years. Its incremental copy reminds me of TSM, without all the great bells and whistles of TSM of course ;-D). Richard Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 20, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Joe Crnjanski wrote: Hi All, I received a weird request from potential customer. Because we will charge him per space occupied on our server, he wants to backup only files less than a year old. He doesn't want to go into each folder and try to find files that meet the criteria. I know that Arcserve has that filter option. I don't think that we can do it with TSM, but before give him an answer I thought I would check opinion of The List. In Unix you could readily do for the home directory this via: find ~ -mtime -365 -print /tmp/files_list dsmc i -FILEList=/tmp/files_list (Resulting names containing spaces would require quoting; but that could be readily added via an appropriate command pipe-inserted between the 'find' and the redirect.) Something similar could be done in other environments. Another option for the user is the have the TSM client compress the data being sent to the TSM server. Yet another approach, even much simpler from the standpoint of the backup, is for the user to move his older, less relevant data into an oldies folder and Exclude that from backup. It's a common practice to move old data into a back room folder anyway. You could make it a site standard that user folders with a special oldies name would not be backed up, which would take care of things for this and similarly cheap users. The TSM client Expire command can be used to more quickly remove old stuff from server storage. Richard Sims - Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
Re: backup issue caused by windows limitation
First the version of RoboCopy that is part of the Windows 2003 resource kit now supports paths longer that 256 characters. Second, TSM does support the backup and restoration of files in paths longer that 256 characters. What errors are you getting? Kyle Rees, Chris (Corp) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All We are experiencing problems because of windows limitation. In a nutshell a file that has a full path longer that 256 characters cannot be backed up / restored. We have found this a problem with other programs such as robocopy. Has anyone out there found a work around for this.. I know this is a long shot but thought I'd ask anyway.. Many Thanks Chris ___ Disclaimer Notice This message and any attachments are confidential and should only be read by those to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact us, delete the message from your computer and destroy any copies. Any distribution or copying without our prior permission is prohibited. Internet communications are not always secure and therefore the E.ON Group does not accept legal responsibility for this message. The recipient is responsible for verifying its authenticity before acting on the contents. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the E.ON Group. E.ON UK plc, Westwood Way, Westwood Business Park, Coventry, CV4 8LG. Registered in England Wales No. 2366970 E.ON UK Trading Ltd, Westwood Way, Westwood Business Park, Coventry, CV4 8LG Registered in England Wales No. 4178314 E.ON UK Trading Ltd is regulated by the Financial Services Authority to carry out investment activities. Telephone +44 (0) 2476 42 4000 Fax +44 (0) 2476 42 5432 - Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
Re: Windows 2000 Server Archive Complete but Not showing as Retrievable.
Did you use the command line to run a q archive? There is a known problem where the data is archived and can be seen by the command line but not but the GUI. We just had this problem. We were given a few explanations for how this could happen and none seemed to fit. Still there were two commands that you run. One to get rid of the archive directory structure and the other to recreate it. After that we could see our data in the GUI. Maybe Andy R. could post those commands I don't have them off the top of my head. Anyway, TSM support told us what to do. We had to run it on about 50% of the servers we archived prior to upgrading to TSM server V5.3.X.X. Bottom line check to see if you see the stuff at the command line with the q archive command. If so open a call with support and they will help you from there. Hart, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We ran a immediate action sched to archive files form a Windows server. The archive was complete, but when you go in to the TSM BA Client GUI the archive does not show up in the retrieve options. The Archive finished 6hrs ago... The dsmsched log reflects that the archive was indeed ran and completed. Any ideas? 2005-05-18 04:02:32 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Total number of objects inspected: 964,677 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Total number of objects archived: 964,492 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Total number of objects updated: 0 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Total number of objects rebound: 0 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Total number of objects deleted: 0 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Total number of objects expired: 0 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Total number of objects failed: 185 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Total number of bytes transferred: 36.94 GB 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Data transfer time: 7,670.24 sec 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Network data transfer rate: 5,050.66 KB/sec 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Aggregate data transfer rate: 891.30 KB/sec 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Objects compressed by: 0% 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Elapsed processing time: 12:04:24 2005-05-18 04:02:32 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END 2005-05-18 04:02:32 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT END @357 2005-05-17 15:38:46 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Scheduled event '@357' completed successfully. 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Sending results for scheduled event '@357'. 2005-05-18 04:02:32 Results sent to server for scheduled event '@357'. TSM Env TSM 5.2.4 on AIX / Client Win2003 5.2.3 Client Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re Windows 2000 client reconfiguration
If you use Microsofts RoboCopy utility you can copy data without modifying any of the attributes. The latest version that comes with the Windows 2003 resource kit lets you do all kinds of cool stuff including retaining ownership on the files. It is also an incremental only copy utility so you can start the copy a week ahead of time and then run one last incremental copy the night before. Actually this new version lets you start it in a mode where it is always running and sends changed files from the source to the destination right when they change. Anyway, we use this for our server moves. Tab Trepagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Farren, From our experience, this is the problem: Configure a new server and copy the data across in such a way that it doesn't look like it's changed. Our main file servers have been on five different physical machines in the eight years I've been here. Our attempts to copy data from one file server to another have always caused TSM to grab a new copy of the entire server. One issue is that Microsoft's tools - xcopy, ncopy, and pcopy - all copy permissions but not inheritance. So a folder on the source that inherits certain permissions from its parent will have the same permissions APPLIED on the copy. From Windows' perspective that is an ACL change, so TSM grabs a new copy. Worse, it means that any changes you intend to apply at the top of the directory tree dead-end at that level. You must then force the inheritance down the tree, which means ANOTHER ACL change and another copy of the file server pulled into TSM. If you're going to pull in a copy of the entire server anyway, I would recommend that you get your permissions, inheritance, auditing, etc. as close to perfect as possible BEFORE launching the first post-migration backup. And do as much with groups as possible. Adding just one user ID to the top of a directory tree will provoke a very large backup session. Good luck. Tab Trepagnier TSM Administrator Laitram, L.L.C. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager wrote on 05/12/2005 03:08:20 AM: Morning all TSMers Running TSM 5.1.6.2 on a Solaris server. Attached to 1*3494 library with two*3590H1A drives. I have a possible problem here. One of the sys admins for the Windows 2000 servers has informed me that they are going to need to replace an entire Windows 2000 server due to severe hardware issues that they have been experiencing. No amount of support has fixed the problem and hence the drastic move. The server has got some 820,000 files on it amounting to approximately 450GB. Here is what we want to do. Configure a new server and copy the data across in such a way that it doesn't look like it's changed. The new server will have the exact same Node name, file system layout etc. I don't really want to be faced with backing up the entire server all over again as we are getting low on both tape space in the library and database space. This was not something I had foreseen. From what I have been told, early tests have not been promising and TSM still thinks files have changed even if the last change date/time etc has not altered. Does anyone have any experience with this or any advice they can give that may help us avoid a long backup that will hog system resources? Many thanks in advance Farren Minns Solaris System Admin / Oracle DBA IT - Hosting Services John Wiley Sons, Ltd ## The information contained in this e-mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and confidential and intended solely for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient, you must not copy, distribute, or disseminate the information, open any attachment, or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received the e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, unless otherwise stated. Although this e-mail has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check, as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. ## __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: HSM question
If you are asking if you can use DiskExtender from a Windows client to a TSM server that is running on AIX then the answer is yes. The platform the TSM server is running does not matter. If you are asking if you can use the TSM native HSM function that also does not matter what OS the TSM server is running. The native HSM does not support Windows. Luc Beaudoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right now I have a TSM server on a windows 2000 box ... I know that I can use DiskExtender to move old data to cheaper storage ... If I migrate my TSM server on a Pserie with AIX ... will I be able to use HSM to migrate my old files from some windows servers to cheap storage ??? Thanks Luc - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Re: problems with medium changer driver in 3583
The TSM device driver should not be used to control IBM libraries since V5.2. If it was an STK library then you would use it but for IBM library you use the medium changer driver that comes with the LTO device drivers. Pawel Jobkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi! I have server 2003 SP1 with TSM 5.3.1.1 and library IBM Ultrium 3583 connected to this server via FC. I've installed drivers to the tapes without any problem, but I can't install correctly meduim changer. I've installed TSM drivers for medium changer - tsmscsi.sys. But in Windows Device Manger next to this device there is an exlamation mark and in propertis there is note that windows can't load all drivers. code 31 My TSM see only tape drivers. I can't define path to the library. I don't know what's wrong, I did everything what is said in user guide. What's the problem? Can anybody help me? Thanks Pawel - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Re: CX700 ATA failure - Audit Storage Pool Volumes
We lost 2 drives in the same array on a CX600 and they wouldn't rebuild. Our problem did not cause a loss of data. EMC had to bring down the whole thing and when it came back up the rebuild kicked off and everything was OK. We were told that if we had a more recent version of microcode then the rebuild would have worked from the start. Bottom line wait until EMC is done before you do anything because you may not have lost any data. Steve Schaub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, make sure the drives were really bad - we had this happen to us on a cx500 and it turned out that the microcode was actually bad, and the 2nd raid5 disk failure was phony. Have your ce double check this - we lost tons of data from this little glitch biting us several days in a row before they figured it out (when it did come back up the volumes were toast). -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy L Backhaus Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] CX700 ATA failure - Audit Storage Pool Volumes TSM Server 5.2.3.5 AIX Operating System 5.2 We have lost two drives on a single ATA RAID array. EMC CE is on site and working with the EMC SAC to resolve the problem. We brought TSM Server down while EMC is working on the issue. I started receiving the following errors before we stop all processes, backups, migrations marking the effected diskpool volumes read-only. 05/04/05 09:06:36 ANR1411W Access mode for volume /tsmpool39/diskpool22a now set to read-only due to write error. (SESSION: 125991) My question is When we bring the server back up. I want to ensure that I am doing the right thing, or if I am missing anything. 1. I will need to make sure the volumes affected are online and in a read/write status. 2. Audit diskpools volumes, Inspect only first 3. If there are damaged volumes,rerun audit volume, with Fix=Yes. 4. Suggestions? Nancy Backhaus Enterprise Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: (716) 887-7979 Cell: (716) 609-2138 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential, trade secret or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
