Issue with Exchange 2000 copy and db copy command modifying logs
TSM server ver 5.2.1.1 TSM B A Client 5.2.2.5 TDP for Exchange 5.2.0 TSM B A Client 5.2.0.6 TDP for Exchange 5.2.0 TSM B A Client 5.1.5.15 TDP for Exchange 5.1.5 I have three Exchange 2000 servers all showing the same issue To enable me to get a month end backup I have scheduled a copy to run on the 1st day of the month I use a copy so as not to affect the full incremental daily backups I run Full runs on Wednesday Incr (log backup) runs every day Either copy * or dbcopy * work as expected but any subsequent log backup the application event log indicates log files are missing or corrupt tdpexcc.exe backup * copy /tsmoptfile=%exc_dir%\monthly_dsm.opt /logfile=%exc_dir%\excschmth.log %exc_dir%\\excmth.log or or tdpexcc.exe backup * DBcopy* /tsmoptfile=%exc_dir%\monthly_dsm.opt /logfile=%exc_dir%\excschmth.log %exc_dir%\\excmth.log or Has anyone seen this before on all of these versions of client I know there is a new command for exchange 2000 called DBCopy and I have only attempted using this on one server through the GUI but then I tried an Incremental and the same old message appears All Exchange servers are Windows 2000 SP3 Exchange 2000 SP3 (including the post SP3 sept update) Does anyone else do 1 off backups of their exchange servers (month ends or year ends) Thanks Dean
Re: Issue with Exchange 2000 copy and db copy command modifying logs
Here's an idea: Create a second node name to do Exchange backups on a different schedule with a different file retention on a non-default management class. -- Mark Stapleton From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Edmonds To enable me to get a month end backup I have scheduled a copy to run on the 1st day of the month I use a copy so as not to affect the full incremental daily backups I run Full runs on Wednesday Incr (log backup) runs every day Either copy * or dbcopy * work as expected but any subsequent log backup the application event log indicates log files are missing or corrupt tdpexcc.exe backup * copy /tsmoptfile=%exc_dir%\monthly_dsm.opt /logfile=%exc_dir%\excschmth.log %exc_dir%\\excmth.log or or tdpexcc.exe backup * DBcopy* /tsmoptfile=%exc_dir%\monthly_dsm.opt /logfile=%exc_dir%\excschmth.log %exc_dir%\\excmth.log or Has anyone seen this before on all of these versions of client I know there is a new command for exchange 2000 called DBCopy and I have only attempted using this on one server through the GUI but then I tried an Incremental and the same old message appears All Exchange servers are Windows 2000 SP3 Exchange 2000 SP3 (including the post SP3 sept update) Does anyone else do 1 off backups of their exchange servers (month ends or year ends) Thanks Dean
Re: Issue with Exchange 2000 copy and db copy command modifying logs
Dean, You should be able to run a COPY or DBCOPY backup without affecting your FULL plus INCREMENTAL backup scheme. Something else must be going on here. Are there any maintenance tasks that might be running in between the COPY and the next INCREMENTAL backup? (like DEFRAG?) You said that you see an error message in the application event log but you didn't mention that the TDPEXCC BACKUP * INCR command fails with an error message. Does it? If so, what exact Data Protection for Exchange message are you seeing? BTW.. .with COPY type backups, you can bind the backups to a different management class so they are retained with different policy settings. For example: INCLUDE SERVER3\...\copy MC_MONTHLY_CLASS where SERVER3 is the Exchange Server name and MC_MONTHLY_CLASS is the management class you have set up for monthly Exchange backups. Thanks, Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/08/2004 11:42:38 AM: TSM server ver 5.2.1.1 TSM B A Client 5.2.2.5 TDP for Exchange 5.2.0 TSM B A Client 5.2.0.6 TDP for Exchange 5.2.0 TSM B A Client 5.1.5.15 TDP for Exchange 5.1.5 I have three Exchange 2000 servers all showing the same issue To enable me to get a month end backup I have scheduled a copy to run on the 1st day of the month I use a copy so as not to affect the full incremental daily backups I run Full runs on Wednesday Incr (log backup) runs every day Either copy * or dbcopy * work as expected but any subsequent log backup the application event log indicates log files are missing or corrupt tdpexcc.exe backup * copy /tsmoptfile=%exc_dir%\monthly_dsm.opt /logfile=%exc_dir%\excschmth.log %exc_dir%\\excmth.log or or tdpexcc.exe backup * DBcopy* /tsmoptfile=%exc_dir%\monthly_dsm.opt /logfile=%exc_dir%\excschmth.log %exc_dir%\\excmth.log or Has anyone seen this before on all of these versions of client I know there is a new command for exchange 2000 called DBCopy and I have only attempted using this on one server through the GUI but then I tried an Incremental and the same old message appears All Exchange servers are Windows 2000 SP3 Exchange 2000 SP3 (including the post SP3 sept update) Does anyone else do 1 off backups of their exchange servers (month ends or year ends) Thanks Dean
Re: How can I backup Exchange 2000 SRS via command line?
Tim, When I run that I get ACN5086W None of the storage groups entered exist. Or, if doing a DBCOPY backup, the database entered does not exist. and ACN5304E Unable to open service to determine if running or not. I can backup the SRS storage via the gui successfully. Does this comand line work for you? When I run tdpexcc query tsm * full /active I see the SRS Storage Storage Group. Backup List --- Exchange Server : USNTS3501 Storage Group: SRS Storage Backup Date Size A/I B/U Type Object Name/Database Name - --- --- - 01/12/2004 15:07:44 4,000.14MB A full 20040112150744 3,995.14MB SRS MDB Storage Group: USNTS3501-SG1 Backup Date Size A/I B/U Type Object Name/Database Name - --- --- - 01/13/2004 00:00:3611.26GB A full 2004011336 10.42GB USNTS3501-SG1MB1 838.08MB USNTS3501-SG1PF1 Thanks Jeremy Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tdpexcc backup SRS Storage full /tsmoptfile=dsm.opt /logfile=exsch.log /excapp=SRS excfull.log -Original Message- From: Jeremy Houtchens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 13, 2004 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How can I backup Exchange 2000 SRS via command line? I have not found a way to backup the Exchange 2000 Site Replication Service via the command line with tpdexcc. The help only show how to back it up via the GUI. Has anyone found a way to do this? IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Mail: Data Protection for Microsoft Exchange Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.0 Thanks Jeremy - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes
Re: How can I backup Exchange 2000 SRS via command line?
Yes it works for me, we run this every day. Are you including the /excapp=SRS option? Tim Rushforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: Jeremy Houtchens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 13, 2004 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How can I backup Exchange 2000 SRS via command line? Tim, When I run that I get ACN5086W None of the storage groups entered exist. Or, if doing a DBCOPY backup, the database entered does not exist. and ACN5304E Unable to open service to determine if running or not. I can backup the SRS storage via the gui successfully. Does this comand line work for you? When I run tdpexcc query tsm * full /active I see the SRS Storage Storage Group. Backup List --- Exchange Server : USNTS3501 Storage Group: SRS Storage Backup Date Size A/I B/U Type Object Name/Database Name - --- --- - 01/12/2004 15:07:44 4,000.14MB A full 20040112150744 3,995.14MB SRS MDB Storage Group: USNTS3501-SG1 Backup Date Size A/I B/U Type Object Name/Database Name - --- --- - 01/13/2004 00:00:3611.26GB A full 2004011336 10.42GB USNTS3501-SG1MB1 838.08MB USNTS3501-SG1PF1 Thanks Jeremy Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tdpexcc backup SRS Storage full /tsmoptfile=dsm.opt /logfile=exsch.log /excapp=SRS excfull.log -Original Message- From: Jeremy Houtchens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 13, 2004 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How can I backup Exchange 2000 SRS via command line? I have not found a way to backup the Exchange 2000 Site Replication Service via the command line with tpdexcc. The help only show how to back it up via the GUI. Has anyone found a way to do this? IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Mail: Data Protection for Microsoft Exchange Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.0 Thanks Jeremy - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes
Re: How can I backup Exchange 2000 SRS via command line?
Tim, When I copied and pasted it went to the next line. I tried it again and it worked! Thanks for your help! Jeremy Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it works for me, we run this every day. Are you including the /excapp=SRS option? Tim Rushforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: Jeremy Houtchens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 13, 2004 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How can I backup Exchange 2000 SRS via command line? Tim, When I run that I get ACN5086W None of the storage groups entered exist. Or, if doing a DBCOPY backup, the database entered does not exist. and ACN5304E Unable to open service to determine if running or not. I can backup the SRS storage via the gui successfully. Does this comand line work for you? When I run tdpexcc query tsm * full /active I see the SRS Storage Storage Group. Backup List --- Exchange Server : USNTS3501 Storage Group : SRS Storage Backup Date Size A/I B/U Type Object Name/Database Name - --- --- - 01/12/2004 15:07:44 4,000.14MB A full 20040112150744 3,995.14MB SRS MDB Storage Group : USNTS3501-SG1 Backup Date Size A/I B/U Type Object Name/Database Name - --- --- - 01/13/2004 00:00:36 11.26GB A full 2004011336 10.42GB USNTS3501-SG1MB1 838.08MB USNTS3501-SG1PF1 Thanks Jeremy Rushforth, Tim wrote: tdpexcc backup SRS Storage full /tsmoptfile=dsm.opt /logfile=exsch.log /excapp=SRS excfull.log -Original Message- From: Jeremy Houtchens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 13, 2004 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How can I backup Exchange 2000 SRS via command line? I have not found a way to backup the Exchange 2000 Site Replication Service via the command line with tpdexcc. The help only show how to back it up via the GUI. Has anyone found a way to do this? IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Mail: Data Protection for Microsoft Exchange Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.0 Thanks Jeremy - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes
Restore Log file without DB with Exchange 2000 TDP22 !! Urgent
Hi All we have a problem with a corrupt 1 of 4 DB in First Storage Group on a Echange server 2000 the restore of the 30 GB of DB was good but the restore crash during restore of Log file ( tdp incr backup) about 12 GB on TSM server ANR0566W Retrieve or Restore failed for session xxx for node ... file was deleted from data storage during retrieval but the expiration wasn't in progress and mgmt keep the version for 30 days we want to only restore the log file and apply the eseutil after Do you have a solution for that ? thanks for your help
SV: Restore Log file without DB with Exchange 2000 TDP22 !! Urgent
Hi, If you are restoring via Terminal service and the session disconnect the files vil be lost also if you use default prefences when restoring and you logoff on the the your are restoring your lose data. - Michael -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Fabrice H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 8. oktober 2003 18:56 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Restore Log file without DB with Exchange 2000 TDP22 !! Urgent Hi All we have a problem with a corrupt 1 of 4 DB in First Storage Group on a Echange server 2000 the restore of the 30 GB of DB was good but the restore crash during restore of Log file ( tdp incr backup) about 12 GB on TSM server ANR0566W Retrieve or Restore failed for session xxx for node ... file was deleted from data storage during retrieval but the expiration wasn't in progress and mgmt keep the version for 30 days we want to only restore the log file and apply the eseutil after Do you have a solution for that ? thanks for your help
Re: Restore Log file without DB with Exchange 2000 TDP22 !! Urgent
Fabrice, It depends on the state that the restore was left in. Data Protection for Exchange will allow you to just restore an incremental backup assuming the database restore was successful AND left in a proper state which is uncertain in the situation that you describe. You can try the incremental restore using the GUI or command-line. If it does not work, it means that the state that the Exchange Server restore was left in, will not allow it. If that happens, you will have to restore the single corrupt database again. If you are unsure how to do this, please call IBM support. Thanks, Del we have a problem with a corrupt 1 of 4 DB in First Storage Group on a Echange server 2000 the restore of the 30 GB of DB was good but the restore crash during restore of Log file ( tdp incr backup) about 12 GB on TSM server ANR0566W Retrieve or Restore failed for session xxx for node ... file was deleted from data storage during retrieval but the expiration wasn't in progress and mgmt keep the version for 30 days we want to only restore the log file and apply the eseutil after
Re: Exchange 2000 and TSM's TDP for Exchange
Tony, 1.) Backup up the users individual mailbox (brick level) directly to a PST file, so that I do not have to have a hot spare and so that I do NOT have to use Exmerge. [if this is true, then all I would need to do is make the PST available for the user to import into Outlook and they could copy up the folder/messages themselves] Data Protection 5.1.5 included a document (BRICKBACK.DOC), sample scripts and sample configuration files (ExMerge.INI and DSM.OPT). The document describes a Brick-Level solution utilizing a combination of of ExMerge (export to .PST file) and the TSM BA client to back up the .PST file to the TSM Server. It also documents how to use the TSM BA Client subfile backup feature so that only the changes to the mailbox (generally speaking.. new and changed mail) are backed up to the TSM Server. The document and scripts are included in the Data Protection for Exchange 5.1.5 package since it is the Exchange customers that use this solution. The Data Protection for Exchange product executables are not used in the brick-level solution. Yes, the documented solution does require additional disk, but it does work, and has a good side effect of a local quick cache of .PST files for those item level restores you get hit up for. Also, don't forget about the deleted item restore feature in Exchange 5.5 SP3+ and the deleted item restore and deleted mailbox restore features Exchange 2000. Also, with Exchange 2003, Microsoft has added a special Recovery Storage Group that will allow you to restore a database into a separate location, not affecting the current users, and use ExMerge to get access to the things you need. 2.) Other than allowing a online hot backup of the database, what does the TDP do for me if I have to restore a users Inbox or message With Data Protection for Exchange you can always restore the databases to an alternate server to get access to what you want. But.. keep in mind... customers that use brick-level solutions also need to use standard online backup solutions (like Data Protection for Exchange) since there is no brick-level solution that will be able to recover your *entire* Exchange Server in the event of a serious Exchange server corruption... and even if some brick-level solution could get close, any fairly large Exchange server restored via brick-level would take a very, very long time. I hope this helps. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Remember that the best job security is doing a job well and doing it cheerfully.
Exchange 2000
We are investigating using TSM/ exchange TDP to back up our Exchange servers. I would like to know if there are a number of organizations that use TSM to back up Exchange and if there are any items that I need to be aware of. We will be doing a test run soon. We currently use TSM are our primary backup solution.
Re: Exchange 2000
We use TSM and TDP to backup our exchange servers. We have not had any major problems with it. -Original Message- From: Mark Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exchange 2000 We are investigating using TSM/ exchange TDP to back up our Exchange servers. I would like to know if there are a number of organizations that use TSM to back up Exchange and if there are any items that I need to be aware of. We will be doing a test run soon. We currently use TSM are our primary backup solution.
Exchange 2000 and TSM's TDP for Exchange
Hello, Is any one using the TDP from TSM 5.1x? If so can any one verify if it does the following? 1.) Backup up the users individual mailbox (brick level) directly to a PST file, so that I do not have to have a hot spare and so that I do NOT have to use Exmerge. [if this is true, then all I would need to do is make the PST available for the user to import into Outlook and they could copy up the folder/messages themselves] 2.) Other than allowing a online hot backup of the database, what does the TDP do for me if I have to restore a users Inbox or message I was told long ago that the newer versions of TSM might allow bricks to be backed up.
Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements)
I apologize, in advance, to those on this list, as I know this is not an Arcserve listserv, but it still does aid others in issues of a backup nature. Zlatko, Well, being that this is a public forum we all try our best to offer the information we know to be true, directly from our experience, and not off the cuff. In this spirit, I will answer your somewhat pointed questions (if they were even questions) drawn from this experience. Answers: - Fought: Yes we have 8 or more months invested in e-mails on E-support, and direct support calls. We contacted our representatives in Islandia, NY who have direct input into tech groups that work on this sort of stuff. Were WE the only ones? Absolutely not! but we definitely did our part to add in this, through constant bringing up of the issues that were wrong. - Was is so broken?: Yes! At best, the DBAgent worked 1-2 days out of 5. - 95% operational: Now that CA has come out with hot fixes for SP3 and now SP4 the brick level is backing up smooth, however it still will hiccup and revert back to old errors. Now it works 3-4 out of 5 days. - What are the rest 5%: The other 5% are same issues that we had been dealing with before SP3 and hot fix, only they still have no solid answer for why it happens. - What was the percentage before those 8 months?: Before the 8 months? We were lucky to get 1 good brick level, let alone information store backup. Everyday the same issues with no resolution. - Tolerable: We can deal with one missed differential backup. As far as not fixed? I am speaking of those constant caveats that use to happen before CA's post SP3 fixes. - TSM does NOT do brick level restores because Microsoft does not do it: Actually, this statement is not true. According to Veritas, Microsoft does use their agent and they DO backup bricks on exchange 5.5 servers. All-be-it they may only do it for Management/administration. Microsoft still does it. Yes, it is true that M.S. has not changed their API's, but all that says to me is that CA and Veritas are supplying a 3rd party service to ease administration, and for TSM not to get in the game is sort of a shame. For those companies who do not have the budget to have a 2nd Exchange server standing by for mailbox recovery or D.S., the ability to restore a mail folder or message is a big plus, regardless of the technical explanation of how its done, it is still a big plus. Yes there was talk regarding M.S possibly doing this, however, back 1-2 months ago some one also stated that TSM might be looking into this in the later versions of 5.x. As for your joke, it has no teachable relevance. I can restore a mail folder using the dbagent, quicker than I would be able to do it had I just backed up the information store alone, and resorted to Microsoft's way of restoring this mail. -Original Message- From: Zlatko Krastev/ACIT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improvements) Tony, could you explain a bit more. I am somewhat confused. You (instead of CA?) fought to fix Arcserve agent for 8 months??? Was it so broken? What means 95% operational, what are the rest 5%, what was the percentage before those 8 months? And what on the end is tolerable, something you still did not got fixed? TSM does NOT do brick level restores because Microsoft does not do it - the backup APIs are for information stores. Other vendors are attempting to use messaging APIs and DO NOT restore messages but create new ones with same content. This was explained on this list many times. There was something in one of the discussions remark that Microsoft (not Tivoli) is planning to enhance/modify their APIs. But if Microsoft does not provide an API for mailbox restore then Tivoli simply would not do it. There is a joke about a gynecologist who painted a room through key hole. But I would not accept all rooms in my office to be painted using this technology and with that speed. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements) Actually, we are using Arcserve 2000 to backup Exchange5.5 on W2K member serves. We fought Arcserve for over 8 months to fix their agent and it looks like they have it 95% operational and tolerable. We are seeing through=put speeds of up to 100mb/minute. We are backing up servers with databases of up to 15gb. All-be-it we are using old DLT4000 technology, the backups are getting done and we have been able to restore peoples individual folders (i.e. sent items, inbox, etc...) Now I have heard that TSM might be doing this in version 5.1x, I do not know how true this is, but I now they DO NOT do it now... Hope this helps -Original Message- From: Seay
Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improvements)
Tony, could you explain a bit more. I am somewhat confused. You (instead of CA?) fought to fix Arcserve agent for 8 months??? Was it so broken? What means 95% operational, what are the rest 5%, what was the percentage before those 8 months? And what on the end is tolerable, something you still did not got fixed? TSM does NOT do brick level restores because Microsoft does not do it - the backup APIs are for information stores. Other vendors are attempting to use messaging APIs and DO NOT restore messages but create new ones with same content. This was explained on this list many times. There was something in one of the discussions remark that Microsoft (not Tivoli) is planning to enhance/modify their APIs. But if Microsoft does not provide an API for mailbox restore then Tivoli simply would not do it. There is a joke about a gynecologist who painted a room through key hole. But I would not accept all rooms in my office to be painted using this technology and with that speed. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements) Actually, we are using Arcserve 2000 to backup Exchange5.5 on W2K member serves. We fought Arcserve for over 8 months to fix their agent and it looks like they have it 95% operational and tolerable. We are seeing through=put speeds of up to 100mb/minute. We are backing up servers with databases of up to 15gb. All-be-it we are using old DLT4000 technology, the backups are getting done and we have been able to restore peoples individual folders (i.e. sent items, inbox, etc...) Now I have heard that TSM might be doing this in version 5.1x, I do not know how true this is, but I now they DO NOT do it now... Hope this helps -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements) Define what mailbox means to you. If you are talking about the calendar and other little goodies including public folders, none do that except maybe CommVault. And, I do not think they can do the public folders. The thing that Veritas and Arcserver created are for marketing only and really are so slow you can only use it for a few select mailboxes. None replace the normal exchange backups that you have to do to be able to recover the exchange stores. I found out just yesterday that Exchange 2000 has a reserved area you can restore an information store to. Once you have done that you can truly recover a mailbox and its contents. This was Microsoft's answer to the problem. But, Exchange 2000 requires active directory and other hurdles to get there. However, my Exchange boys point out you must not put any mailboxes you might want to recover in the base information store because that one cannot be restored to the reserve area. That one has all the exchange specific extensions to active directory. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Consiglio, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange We have not moved to version 5.1x yet, but we are on version 4.2.2x and the answer is most definitely not! There are only 2 other outside vendors that back up bricks, 1.) Veritas 2.) Arcserve2000 The only way to do individual folder recovery (i.e. Inbox, or Sent items, etc..) is to export to a PST file then back up that file. -Original Message- From: McMullen David E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM and MS Exchange We are evaluating TSM here and a question came up with regard to TSM and Exchange. Will TSM backup and restore individual mailboxes? TIA David McMullen SMC/LAB Support 512.460.4559
Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements)
Actually, we are using Arcserve 2000 to backup Exchange5.5 on W2K member serves. We fought Arcserve for over 8 months to fix their agent and it looks like they have it 95% operational and tolerable. We are seeing through=put speeds of up to 100mb/minute. We are backing up servers with databases of up to 15gb. All-be-it we are using old DLT4000 technology, the backups are getting done and we have been able to restore peoples individual folders (i.e. sent items, inbox, etc...) Now I have heard that TSM might be doing this in version 5.1x, I do not know how true this is, but I now they DO NOT do it now... Hope this helps -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements) Define what mailbox means to you. If you are talking about the calendar and other little goodies including public folders, none do that except maybe CommVault. And, I do not think they can do the public folders. The thing that Veritas and Arcserver created are for marketing only and really are so slow you can only use it for a few select mailboxes. None replace the normal exchange backups that you have to do to be able to recover the exchange stores. I found out just yesterday that Exchange 2000 has a reserved area you can restore an information store to. Once you have done that you can truly recover a mailbox and its contents. This was Microsoft's answer to the problem. But, Exchange 2000 requires active directory and other hurdles to get there. However, my Exchange boys point out you must not put any mailboxes you might want to recover in the base information store because that one cannot be restored to the reserve area. That one has all the exchange specific extensions to active directory. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Consiglio, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange We have not moved to version 5.1x yet, but we are on version 4.2.2x and the answer is most definitely not! There are only 2 other outside vendors that back up bricks, 1.) Veritas 2.) Arcserve2000 The only way to do individual folder recovery (i.e. Inbox, or Sent items, etc..) is to export to a PST file then back up that file. -Original Message- From: McMullen David E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM and MS Exchange We are evaluating TSM here and a question came up with regard to TSM and Exchange. Will TSM backup and restore individual mailboxes? TIA David McMullen SMC/LAB Support 512.460.4559
Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements)
In testing this with our original Exchange 5.5 deployment the brick level backup and restore takes up far more resources than your typical MS Exchange API backup. Let's say your Infostore on your 5.5 machine is 30gb in size. Your backup will probably exceed double that size because every mail box is backed up as a separate entity any items that are shared or any single item that has multiple pointers to it will have to be backed up every time it is referenced in an individual mailbox. Veritas Backup Exec and I believe Netbackup does have a brick level feature. There are a number of others but I don't have any experience with them. Additionally, there are other products out there that will allow retention of deleted mailboxes for a pre determined amount of time. They do require integration into the Exchange environment and have to be managed. But that does not protect you in the event of total server loss or historical or legal requirements. In our 5.5 site and during our testing of our Exchange 2000 deployment environment it has proven to be far more beneficial to have 1 or 2 standby servers that are used exclusively to restore infostores for legal or recovery purposes. Duane Ochs Systems Administration Quad/Graphics Inc. 414.566.2375 -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements) Define what mailbox means to you. If you are talking about the calendar and other little goodies including public folders, none do that except maybe CommVault. And, I do not think they can do the public folders. The thing that Veritas and Arcserver created are for marketing only and really are so slow you can only use it for a few select mailboxes. None replace the normal exchange backups that you have to do to be able to recover the exchange stores. I found out just yesterday that Exchange 2000 has a reserved area you can restore an information store to. Once you have done that you can truly recover a mailbox and its contents. This was Microsoft's answer to the problem. But, Exchange 2000 requires active directory and other hurdles to get there. However, my Exchange boys point out you must not put any mailboxes you might want to recover in the base information store because that one cannot be restored to the reserve area. That one has all the exchange specific extensions to active directory. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Consiglio, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange We have not moved to version 5.1x yet, but we are on version 4.2.2x and the answer is most definitely not! There are only 2 other outside vendors that back up bricks, 1.) Veritas 2.) Arcserve2000 The only way to do individual folder recovery (i.e. Inbox, or Sent items, etc..) is to export to a PST file then back up that file. -Original Message- From: McMullen David E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM and MS Exchange We are evaluating TSM here and a question came up with regard to TSM and Exchange. Will TSM backup and restore individual mailboxes? TIA David McMullen SMC/LAB Support 512.460.4559
Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000 Improv ements)
Define what mailbox means to you. If you are talking about the calendar and other little goodies including public folders, none do that except maybe CommVault. And, I do not think they can do the public folders. The thing that Veritas and Arcserver created are for marketing only and really are so slow you can only use it for a few select mailboxes. None replace the normal exchange backups that you have to do to be able to recover the exchange stores. I found out just yesterday that Exchange 2000 has a reserved area you can restore an information store to. Once you have done that you can truly recover a mailbox and its contents. This was Microsoft's answer to the problem. But, Exchange 2000 requires active directory and other hurdles to get there. However, my Exchange boys point out you must not put any mailboxes you might want to recover in the base information store because that one cannot be restored to the reserve area. That one has all the exchange specific extensions to active directory. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Consiglio, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange We have not moved to version 5.1x yet, but we are on version 4.2.2x and the answer is most definitely not! There are only 2 other outside vendors that back up bricks, 1.) Veritas 2.) Arcserve2000 The only way to do individual folder recovery (i.e. Inbox, or Sent items, etc..) is to export to a PST file then back up that file. -Original Message- From: McMullen David E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM and MS Exchange We are evaluating TSM here and a question came up with regard to TSM and Exchange. Will TSM backup and restore individual mailboxes? TIA David McMullen SMC/LAB Support 512.460.4559
How to do disaster recovery for Exchange 2000 ?
Title: How to do disaster recovery for Exchange 2000 ? Hi all: I want to do a disaster recovery for Exchange 2000 . Does anyone know how to do it ? The documents of TDP for Exchange refers to the Microsoft document. Where could I get it ? Thanks a lot . Mcihael Hsu
Re: How to do disaster recovery for Exchange 2000 ?
I want to do a disaster recovery for Exchange 2000. Does anyone know how to do it ? The documents of TDP for Exchange refers to the Microsoft document. Where could I get it ? Try here: http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/E2Krecovery.asp Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a beautiful day. Don't let it get away. -- Bono
Re: How to do disaster recovery for Exchange 2000 ?
www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/e2krecovery.asp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/e2krecovery.asp There are a few more links in the same area. Joe Cascanette The Cumis Group Limited [Joe Cascanette] -Original Message- From: Michael Hsu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to do disaster recovery for Exchange 2000 ? Hi all: I want to do a disaster recovery for Exchange 2000 . Does anyone know how to do it ? The documents of TDP for Exchange refers to the Microsoft document. Where could I get it ? Thanks a lot . Mcihael Hsu
Re: Exchange 2000
3.How many people are experiencing Memory Errors when doing so? Scott, This is a known issue with the Microsoft Exchange server. Microsoft found a problem and are currently in the process of putting out a Q article and a hotfix. Here is a quote from the Microsoft Escalation Engineer that we have been working with: Throughout the troubleshooting process for this issue, we did manage to uncover and fix a memory leak in our ESE Backup and Restore APIs, which is scheduled for inclusion in Exchange 2000 Service Pack 2 (and a pre-SP2 hotfix is forthcoming very shortly). We will have two KB articles for this issue: Q306283, XADM: Exchange 2000 Information Store leaks memory when backed up remotely, which alerts the public to this issue, and Q306177, XADM: Exchange 2000 Information Store leaks memory when backed up remotely, which will contain the same information as Q306283, in addition to the hotfix build number information for the updated eseback2.dll. Unfortunately, I cannot distribute draft versions of unpublished Knowledge Base articles prior to publishing (due to company policy). If your other customers are encountering this issue, please have them contact Microsoft Product Support Services so we can properly track their issue, and distribute hotfixes to the affected customers accordingly. The contact information for Microsoft Product Support Services can be found at http://support.microsoft.com/directory/.; Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange 2000
I am conducting a poll just for my own gratification - 1.How many people on this site are backing up Exchange 2000? 2.How many people are backing up Exchange 2000 in a active/active cluster? 3.How many people are experiencing Memory Errors when doing so? 4.Is anyone doing it successfully, without problems of any kind, and if so how big are the stores and what is the environment? 5.Does anyone use the LANFREE option to do it? Thanks, Scott
Errors backing up Exchange 2000
Is anybody backing up Exchange 2000 successfully with TSM (running on a W2K platform) when Exchange 2000 is in a active/active cluster? And have you had any errors scheduling it or more specifically have you seen the error The Computer is out of Memory when backing the information store up?
Re: Errors backing up Exchange 2000
I assume you have been able to backup sucessfully in the past and that this error has just started occuring...If so, it may be a problem that is currently being investigated by Microsoft. There may be a memory leak in Exchange 2000 when backing it up remotely, which is what occurs, via the virtual exchange server, in a cluster environment. If this is the same problem, you can free up the 'leaked' memory by stopping and restarting the IS. Thanks, Bill William Degli-Angeli IGS TDP Development Endicott, NY (607) 752-6749 TieLine: 852-6749 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott G Davis Scott.G.Davis@A To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LLTEL.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM:Subject: Errors backing up Exchange 2000 Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 08/16/2001 21:22 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Is anybody backing up Exchange 2000 successfully with TSM (running on a W2K platform) when Exchange 2000 is in a active/active cluster? And have you had any errors scheduling it or more specifically have you seen the error The Computer is out of Memory when backing the information store up?
TDP for Exchange 2000 - Status?
Anyone heard what is happening with the Exchange agent for TSM? Got some Exchange admins chomping at the bit here for some word? Thanks - CR _ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Liberty Mutual Group Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cris Robinson (E-mail).vcf
Re: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Status?
Version 2.2 is available... http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/data_protect_exchange/index.html Robinson, Cris Cris.Robinson@LIBERTYM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UTUAL.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Subject: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Status? Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/2001 10:27 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Anyone heard what is happening with the Exchange agent for TSM? Got some Exchange admins chomping at the bit here for some word? Thanks - CR _ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Liberty Mutual Group Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cris Robinson (E-mail).vcf has been removed from this note on April 30 2001 by William Degli-Angeli
Problem with Exchange 2000 cluster on TDP verson 2.2
Hi I am curently trying to install a TDP for Exchange 2000 with Cluster Active/Active mode. i just got the client verson 2.2.0.0 and i cant seem to be abel to connect to the Server. I followed the Manual witch told me to edit the dsm.opt file and change the clusternode mode from no to yes. when i do this i always get this error message, ACN5237E Unable to communicate with the Microsoft Exchange Server. what is the problem. can anyone help me. Kveðja/Regards Pétur Eyþórsson Tæknimaður/Technician Kerfisfræðingur IR Microsoft Certified System Engineer Nýherji HfSími TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartún 37 105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is
Re: Problem with Exchange 2000 cluster on TDP verson 2.2
If you are using the command line agent, be sure to use the /EXCSERVer option to specify the virtual name of the exchange server. Make sure the Exchange server is running on the same machine as the agent. Pétur EyþórssonTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Problem with Exchange 2000 cluster on TDP verson ADSM: Dist 2.2 Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 04/23/2001 15:18 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi I am curently trying to install a TDP for Exchange 2000 with Cluster Active/Active mode. i just got the client verson 2.2.0.0 and i cant seem to be abel to connect to the Server. I followed the Manual witch told me to edit the dsm.opt file and change the clusternode mode from no to yes. when i do this i always get this error message, ACN5237E Unable to communicate with the Microsoft Exchange Server. what is the problem. can anyone help me. Kveðja/Regards Pétur Eyþórsson Tæknimaður/Technician Kerfisfræðingur IR Microsoft Certified System Engineer Nýherji HfSími TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartún 37 105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is
Re: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
The TDP E2k is schedulded for Q2 and is in beta test for the moment.
-Original Message-
From: Cris Robinson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
It's been awhile since there was discussion on the rollout of the TDP
agent
for Exchange 2000.
Any word on a release date? Del?
Thanks -
CR
_
Cris Robinson
Storage Engineering
Liberty Mutual Group
Portsmouth, New Hampshire
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Un courrier lectronique n'engage pas son metteur. Tout message
susceptible de comporter un engagement doit tre confirm par un crit
dment sign.
An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring
to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed.
Ein elektronischer Brief bzw. eine elektronische Nachricht ist fr den
Absender nicht verbindlich. Jede Nachricht, welche eine Verpflichtung
beinhaltet, mu schriftlich besttigt und ordnungsgem unterzeichnet
werden.
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Un courrier ilectronique n'engage pas son imetteur. Tout message susceptible de
comporter un engagement doit jtre confirmi par un icrit d{ment signi.
An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring to a binding
engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed.
Ein elektronischer Brief bzw. eine elektronische Nachricht ist f|r den Absender nicht
verbindlich. Jede Nachricht, welche eine Verpflichtung beinhaltet, mu_ schriftlich
bestdtigt und ordnungsgemd_ unterzeichnet werden.
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TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
It's been awhile since there was discussion on the rollout of the TDP agent for Exchange 2000. Any word on a release date? Del? Thanks - CR _ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Liberty Mutual Group Portsmouth, New Hampshire mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
Cris, See an append that I made to this list on 1/23: (The GA date for Exchange is 3/30). = Attention SQL server and Exchange server administrators: Please look for the announcement today of the new versions of TDP for Exchange 2.2 and TDP for SQL 2.2. To view the official announcement go to: http://www.ibmlink.ibm.com/usalets Look for the announcement: 201-003 It discusses the new versions of TDP for Exchange and TDP for SQL. As it states, the planned availability dates for the new products are: Tivoli Data Protection for Microsoft SQL Server - January 26, 2001 Tivoli Data Protection for Microsoft Exchange Server - March 30, 2001 = Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cris Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 02/21/2001 10:02:17 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we? It's been awhile since there was discussion on the rollout of the TDP agent for Exchange 2000. Any word on a release date? Del? Thanks - CR _ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Liberty Mutual Group Portsmouth, New Hampshire mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
This is not correct. It is Q1... Specifically 3/30.
Thanks,
Del
Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
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Jager Frederic [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 02/21/2001
10:10:25 AM
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
The TDP E2k is schedulded for Q2 and is in beta test for the moment.
-Original Message-
From: Cris Robinson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
It's been awhile since there was discussion on the rollout of the TDP
agent
for Exchange 2000.
Any word on a release date? Del?
Thanks -
CR
_
Cris Robinson
Storage Engineering
Liberty Mutual Group
Portsmouth, New Hampshire
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Un courrier lectronique n'engage pas son metteur. Tout message
susceptible de comporter un engagement doit tre confirm par un crit
dment sign.
An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring
to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed.
Ein elektronischer Brief bzw. eine elektronische Nachricht ist fr den
Absender nicht verbindlich. Jede Nachricht, welche eine Verpflichtung
beinhaltet, mu schriftlich besttigt und ordnungsgem unterzeichnet
werden.
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Un courrier ilectronique n'engage pas son imetteur. Tout message
susceptible de comporter un engagement doit jtre confirmi par un icrit
d{ment signi.
An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring
to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed.
Ein elektronischer Brief bzw. eine elektronische Nachricht ist f|r den
Absender nicht verbindlich. Jede Nachricht, welche eine Verpflichtung
beinhaltet, mu_ schriftlich bestdtigt und ordnungsgemd_ unterzeichnet
werden.
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Re: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
Thanks Del!
CR
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Cris Robinson
Storage Engineering
Liberty Mutual Group
Portsmouth, New Hampshire
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
This is not correct. It is Q1... Specifically 3/30.
Thanks,
Del
Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jager Frederic [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 02/21/2001
10:10:25 AM
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
The TDP E2k is schedulded for Q2 and is in beta test for the moment.
-Original Message-
From: Cris Robinson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TDP for Exchange 2000 - Where are we?
It's been awhile since there was discussion on the rollout of the TDP
agent
for Exchange 2000.
Any word on a release date? Del?
Thanks -
CR
_
Cris Robinson
Storage Engineering
Liberty Mutual Group
Portsmouth, New Hampshire
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Un courrier lectronique n'engage pas son metteur. Tout message
susceptible de comporter un engagement doit tre confirm par un crit
dment sign.
An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring
to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed.
Ein elektronischer Brief bzw. eine elektronische Nachricht ist fr den
Absender nicht verbindlich. Jede Nachricht, welche eine Verpflichtung
beinhaltet, mu schriftlich besttigt und ordnungsgem unterzeichnet
werden.
-
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Un courrier ilectronique n'engage pas son imetteur. Tout message
susceptible de comporter un engagement doit jtre confirmi par un icrit
d{ment signi.
An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring
to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed.
Ein elektronischer Brief bzw. eine elektronische Nachricht ist f|r den
Absender nicht verbindlich. Jede Nachricht, welche eine Verpflichtung
beinhaltet, mu_ schriftlich bestdtigt und ordnungsgemd_ unterzeichnet
werden.
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Exchange 2000 and TSM
Folks, Is there an official / unofficial statement regarding TDP for Exchange 2000? I'm looking for an ETA if possible. Thanks, Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs CO 80949-1313 (719) 531-5926 Fax: (719) 260-5991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com www.storserver.com
Re: Exchange 2000 and TSM
Kelly, "Unofficially" speaking... ...we are targeting Q1 2001. As usual...no promises. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Kelly J. Lipp" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 12/04/2000 02:42:04 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 and TSM Folks, Is there an official / unofficial statement regarding TDP for Exchange 2000? I'm looking for an ETA if possible. Thanks, Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs CO 80949-1313 (719) 531-5926 Fax: (719) 260-5991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com www.storserver.com
Re: MS Exchange 2000
Gerrit, The current version will not work for Exchange 2000. Microsoft introduced a new set of APIs with Exchange 2000. We are targeting Q1 2001. And I have to say it...no promises. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerrit van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 11/27/2000 08:43:47 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: MS Exchange 2000 Hi TSM'ers Is there a new version of, or does the current version of TDP for Exchange support Exchange 2000? Thanks and regards Gerrit van Zyl
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
I couldn't resist commenting on this subject, again! So here it goes
A few months ago we were getting abit annoyed with TSM and called in some
vendors to looks at their backup products. One was Veritas, who we all know,
another was CommVault which was spun off from Lucent.
CommVault apparently is in bed with Microsoft, and living in sin I suppose.
Their strategy is windows 2000 centric and they make some bold claims about
restoring individual Exchange mailboxes.
I strongly suspect that they have some inside advantage with Microsoft and
Tivoli is being kept at bay. Check out their claims at:
http://galaxy.commvault.com/products_sub.asp?id=63
Now, with that said I must say that I did not like the CommVault database
schema and their DR solution and Tivoli wised up and fixed the TSM issues we
had.
I strongly suspect that Microsoft has more than a "partnership" with
CommVault. But I hate Microsoft anyway so judge for yourself.
Good Luck -
CR
__
Cris Robinson
Storage Engineering
Information Technology Services Support
Liberty Mutual Insurance
Portsmouth, New Hampshire
603.245.4837
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Del Hoobler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
Mehdi,
The procedure for restoring a mailbox within Exchange 2000 will be
to restore the database within the Storage Group that contains the
mailbox.
If you are asking about brick-level backup and restore. Then no.
In fact, a Microsoft Exchange project manager was asked about
when the Microsoft APIs would allow this in the future...
...and his answer was there were no plans to add this to the
backup and restore API.
Thanks,
Del
Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
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"Amini, Mehdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on
10/03/2000
11:30:04 AM
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Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ?
Mehdi Amini
ValueOptions, MIS/LAN
703-208-8754 - Voice
703-205-6879 - Fax
Exchange 2000 TDP-followup
Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and delete and destroy this message and its attachments. **
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
Cris, et. al, Microsoft DOES NOT have mailbox/item level backup and restore APIs for any version of Exchange including the new Exchange 2000 coming out this month. They repeated this to many customers at the latest Microsoft Backup BAM in Redmond last week. There are vendors who have coded solutions using APIs (like MAPI) that are not intended for backup and restore. These solutions tend to take large amounts of time for backups and full restores... (Try restoring a 50Gig IS or storage group from an item level backup and restore.) Microsoft themselves claims that they have tried to come up with a way to provide some type of item level restore support via the backup and restore APIs but have not succeeded because of the architecture of the JET database (the database that is the heart of Exchange.) Microsoft contends that customers should take advantage of deleted item level recovery and the new deleted mailbox level recovery of Exchange 2000 to solve these problems. Not that I need to say this...but before making any decisions... ...customers should install and evaluate the complete solution before committing to any particular product. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cris Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/04/2000 10:25:54 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up I couldn't resist commenting on this subject, again! So here it goes A few months ago we were getting abit annoyed with TSM and called in some vendors to looks at their backup products. One was Veritas, who we all know, another was CommVault which was spun off from Lucent. CommVault apparently is in bed with Microsoft, and living in sin I suppose. Their strategy is windows 2000 centric and they make some bold claims about restoring individual Exchange mailboxes. I strongly suspect that they have some inside advantage with Microsoft and Tivoli is being kept at bay. Check out their claims at: http://galaxy.commvault.com/products_sub.asp?id=63 Now, with that said I must say that I did not like the CommVault database schema and their DR solution and Tivoli wised up and fixed the TSM issues we had. I strongly suspect that Microsoft has more than a "partnership" with CommVault. But I hate Microsoft anyway so judge for yourself. Good Luck - CR __ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Information Technology Services Support Liberty Mutual Insurance Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-followup
Mehdi, Look back at the yesterday's appends. I answered this already. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Amini, Mehdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/04/2000 10:51:50 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP-followup Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
I hope we are not making Del's job a living hell ;-) Most of us are as tired of these claims as Del is and I must say that I have no ill will towards Tivoli and their approach to the backup/restore of Exchange. In all fairness I am always suspicious of other vendors claims that they have mailbox level restore capabilities. I just hope that Microsoft is using a level playing field. Anyway, Thanks Del! CR __ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Information Technology Services Support Liberty Mutual Insurance Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Del Hoobler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up Cris, et. al, Microsoft DOES NOT have mailbox/item level backup and restore APIs for any version of Exchange including the new Exchange 2000 coming out this month. They repeated this to many customers at the latest Microsoft Backup BAM in Redmond last week. There are vendors who have coded solutions using APIs (like MAPI) that are not intended for backup and restore. These solutions tend to take large amounts of time for backups and full restores... (Try restoring a 50Gig IS or storage group from an item level backup and restore.) Microsoft themselves claims that they have tried to come up with a way to provide some type of item level restore support via the backup and restore APIs but have not succeeded because of the architecture of the JET database (the database that is the heart of Exchange.) Microsoft contends that customers should take advantage of deleted item level recovery and the new deleted mailbox level recovery of Exchange 2000 to solve these problems. Not that I need to say this...but before making any decisions... ...customers should install and evaluate the complete solution before committing to any particular product. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cris Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/04/2000 10:25:54 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up I couldn't resist commenting on this subject, again! So here it goes A few months ago we were getting abit annoyed with TSM and called in some vendors to looks at their backup products. One was Veritas, who we all know, another was CommVault which was spun off from Lucent. CommVault apparently is in bed with Microsoft, and living in sin I suppose. Their strategy is windows 2000 centric and they make some bold claims about restoring individual Exchange mailboxes. I strongly suspect that they have some inside advantage with Microsoft and Tivoli is being kept at bay. Check out their claims at: http://galaxy.commvault.com/products_sub.asp?id=63 Now, with that said I must say that I did not like the CommVault database schema and their DR solution and Tivoli wised up and fixed the TSM issues we had. I strongly suspect that Microsoft has more than a "partnership" with CommVault. But I hate Microsoft anyway so judge for yourself. Good Luck - CR __ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Information Technology Services Support Liberty Mutual Insurance Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and delete and destroy this message and its attachments. **
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
Here is something from the archives I've dug up. Jack -- This question was also asked at Microsoft Exchange Conference '99 and Microsoft addressed it by saying that they hold their position to NOT introduce it into the "backup and restore" API because of performance issues and having to break their architecture. They have chosen to take the following steps when it comes to restoring individual items to alleviate the problem: - Exchange 5.5 SP3 - Deleted item retention - Exchange 2000 - Deleted mailbox retention - Exchange 2000 - Introduction of storage groups that split the IS into up to 90 databases. It allows you to manage those db's separately...including restoring individual databases without affecting other databases. -Original Message- From: Amini, Mehdi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and delete and destroy this message and its attachments. **
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
Mehdi, The procedure for restoring a mailbox within Exchange 2000 will be to restore the database within the Storage Group that contains the mailbox. If you are asking about brick-level backup and restore. Then no. In fact, a Microsoft Exchange project manager was asked about when the Microsoft APIs would allow this in the future... ...and his answer was there were no plans to add this to the backup and restore API. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Amini, Mehdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/03/2000 11:30:04 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax
Exchange 2000 TDP
When is the planned release date of Connect Agent for Exchange 2000 Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and delete and destroy this message and its attachments. **
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP
Mehdi, We are targeting Q1 2001. As usual...no promises. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Amini, Mehdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 09/22/2000 11:44:42 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP When is the planned release date of Connect Agent for Exchange 2000 Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax
