Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

[Mike Hammett]

I believe the original Mikrotik stuff ran 48v (like the RB230 series), but they 
ran into some bad transformers or something at one point and stayed away from 
48v until recently. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Mathew Howard"  
To: "Dave"  
Cc: "AFMUG"  
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:50:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz 



ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all... 


Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers will happily take 48v. 
Mikrotik is finally starting to make most of the new stuff handle 48v 
(including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT is the reason I still have to use 
24v on most of our towers... they make a converter you can stick on in line 
with the radios, but that's kind of a pain if you have more than one or two, 
and it's an extra part to fail. 



On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dave < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote: 



They make dental floss for that :) 



On 06/21/2018 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



Except for every single Ubnt device and a majority of Mikrotiks 






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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh Baird < joshba...@gmail.com > wrote: 





I promise life will be easier if you just use 48V. :) 




On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 






I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro to power up two epmp APs. The 5 GHz is just 
fine but the 2 GHz is saying current too low. Both ports are getting 23 volts 
and the cables are <10 feet (from the Powerbox Pro). 


Does anyone know if the 2ghz requires more voltage possibly? 


Spec sheet does say 23 volts min but it's weird one powers (5 ghz) and the 
other doesn't. 




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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

[Mike Hammett]

Except most auto-responders are caught by most list software. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Robert Andrews"  
Cc: "AFMUG"  
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 5:33:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz 


The list was changed so that the reply email address was the person that sent 
the message. 


This means when (not if because we all know someone here has and will do it) 
someone sets a vacation auto responder it doesn't blast the list. 






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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Robert Andrews < i...@avantwireless.com > 
wrote: 


I don't know if it's how the list is sending out or something that changed with 
Thunderbird but "reply-list" is now only reply-all for this message, but on the 
topic of 48v vs 24v there are a lot more solutions in ac-dc for 24v consumer 
level than 48v. and when 48v comes up most manufacturers instantly do 4x 
pricing it seems... 

On 06/21/2018 01:14 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: 


Just think how small of wire you could use with 5K... 

Okay, yeah, there would be some other problems that would kind of make that not 
worth it. 48V seems to be a pretty good compromise, there aren't really any 
different safety concerns between 24v and 48v, so I don't really see a good 
argument for anything less than 48v, other than that it's what we've been using 
for years... which isn't really that good of an argument, when you think about 
it. 

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:02 PM, < ch...@wbmfg.com > 
wrote: 

Well my solar string inverters are 1K DC. 

Yep, if efficiency is the concern 5K would be good if you are 
hauling the energy any distance at all. 
Long distance transmission lines go up to 1 MV. 

But safety comes into play at some point. 48 volts is still 
considered low voltage, less rules and regs and almost zero shock 
hazard. I cannot feel 48. Some can. 

-Original Message- From: Robert Andrews 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:59 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz 


Ok, 5K volt then.. 

On 06/21/2018 11:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com  wrote: 

Higher is always better. 
Wires are smaller. 
Everything is more efficient. 
Everything runs cooler. 
Less voltage drop. 
Less power loss in conductors. 
Sometimes simplifies the design of the load device. 
*From:* Josh Luthman 
*Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 12:17 PM 
*To:* Chuck McCown 
*Cc:* Mathew Howard ; AFMUG 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz 
In a perfect world it would all be 100% 48v (or hell even 100% 
24v) but the only rule of standards is that there are no standards. 
See XKCD 927 - https://xkcd.com/927/ 
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:10 PM, < ch...@wbmfg.com 
> wrote: 

Nice to see the smaller players learning how to put on 
their big boy 
pants and join the ranks of carrier grade vendors. 
*From:* Mathew Howard 
*Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 12:08 PM 
*To:* Josh Luthman 
*Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AFMUG 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz 
Well, MikroTik does have 48v now (the hEX PoE/PowerBox Pro 
will take 
up to 57 volts), but it's only one or the other, it doesn't 
do any 
voltage conversion. But what I've been doing at some sites is 
something like using one PowerBox Pro to feed all the 24v 
only gear, 
and a second one to feed the 48v gear. 
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman 
< j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> wrote: 

Agreed. 
EdgePoint does 48v only but has the outdoor part. 
Netonix does 24v and 48v but doesn't have any outdoor 
capability 
(enclosures would have to be ridiculous for the 12 port+) 
Mikrotik only has 4 ports and 24v only. 

Josh Luthman 
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Direct: 937-552-2343 
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard 


< mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 

Yeah, that's the easiest compromise at this point. 
What I'd like, is a box that I can connect a power 
supply to 
(whether that's 48v, or 24v, I don't care) that 
gives my a 
48v and a 24v output, and has another connection for 
batteries and it deals with feeding the batter

Re: [AFMUG] Changing from reply all to reply

[Steve Jones]

Woot woot
That's two woots


On Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM Ryan Ray  wrote:

> Is there any way we could change back to reply only? I understand it was
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Re: [AFMUG] Changing from reply all to reply

[Mathew Howard]

I concur

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 11:35 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Woot woot
> That's two woots
>
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> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 6:18 PM Ryan Ray  wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] Changing from reply all to reply

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

ack.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: Steve Jones 
  Cc: AFMUG 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 12:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Changing from reply all to reply


  I concur


  On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 11:35 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

Woot woot
That's two woots





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  Is there any way we could change back to reply only? I understand it was 
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Seems easier to be reply again




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[AFMUG] reply test

[chuck]

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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Back to Major Chuck.


bp



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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[chuck]

Who is this going to I wonder...

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test

Back to Major Chuck.



bp


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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Just you and me Chuck.


bp



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  Who is this going to I wonder...
  

   
  
From: Bill
Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test
  

 
  
  
Back to Major Chuck.
 
bp



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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[chuck]

Ah, cannot reply to my own posting and have it show up on the list, but I can 
reply to yours.

OK, folks, I think it is back to just hitting reply now.  
If we have a problem with auto responders I know where the knob is to put it 
back.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test

Back to Major Chuck.



bp


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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[chuck]

Well, you me and Forrest (and Gino) are the original gangstas I think.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:39 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test

Just you and me Chuck.



bp


On 6/24/2018 1:38 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Who is this going to I wonder...

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:35 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test

  Back to Major Chuck.



bp


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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Bad boys. Bad boys. What you gonna do when they come for you?

bp



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  Well, you me and Forrest (and Gino) are the original
gangstas I think.  
  

   
  
From: Bill
Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:39 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test
  

 
  
  
Just you and me Chuck.
 
bp



On 6/24/2018 1:38 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
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  Who is this going to I wonder...
  

   
  
From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test
  

 
  
  
Back to Major Chuck.
 
bp



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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[Mike Hammett]

That's a setting on your individual subscription, to get your own emails or 
not. 




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- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 3:40:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test 




Ah, cannot reply to my own posting and have it show up on the list, but I can 
reply to yours. 

OK, folks, I think it is back to just hitting reply now. 
If we have a problem with auto responders I know where the knob is to put it 
back. 




From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:35 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test 


Back to Major Chuck. 
bp
 
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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I'm here! I'm here! 

Sent from my smartphone

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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: [AFMUG] reply test
Date: Sun, Jun 24, 2018 3:51 PM

Well, you me and Forrest (and Gino) are the original gangstas I 
think.  




From: Bill 
Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:39 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test


Just you and me Chuck.
bp



On 6/24/2018 1:38 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:



Who is this going to I wonder...




From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reply test


Back to Major Chuck.
bp



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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[Mathew Howard]

I'm not here

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 4:24 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
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> I'm here! I'm here!
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> Sent from my smartphone
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> Well, you me and Forrest (and Gino) are the original gangstas I think.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:39 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] reply test
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> Just you and me Chuck.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/24/2018 1:38 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Who is this going to I wonder...
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:35 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] reply test
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>
> Back to Major Chuck.
>
>
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> bp
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

[Gino A. Villarini]

How about a dc-dc poe/SS that takes –48 and converts to +48, 24v etc ?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Date: Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 12:53 PM
To: Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>, David 
Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>>
Cc: AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz




Gino A. Villarini


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Me too...
So, what appetite is there for an inline POE regulator that would convert 48 to 
24?


From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:50 AM
To: Dave
Cc: AFMUG
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all...

Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers will happily take 48v. 
Mikrotik is finally starting to make most of the new stuff handle 48v 
(including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT is the reason I still have to use 
24v on most of our towers... they make a converter you can stick on in line 
with the radios, but that's kind of a pain if you have more than one or two, 
and it's an extra part to fail.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dave  wrote:
They make dental floss for that  :)


On 06/21/2018 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Except for every single Ubnt device and a majority of Mikrotiks


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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
I promise life will be easier if you just use 48V.  :)

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro to power up two epmp APs.  The 5 GHz is just 
fine but the 2 GHz is saying current too low.  Both ports are getting 23 volts 
and the cables are <10 feet (from the Powerbox Pro).

Does anyone know if the 2ghz requires more voltage possibly?

Spec sheet does say 23 volts min but it's weird one powers (5 ghz) and the 
other doesn't.

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Re: [AFMUG] reply test

[Ryan Ray]

Thanks Chuck! woop woop


On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I'm not here
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> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 4:24 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
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>> I'm here! I'm here!
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>> Sent from my smartphone
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>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] reply test
>> Date: Sun, Jun 24, 2018 3:51 PM
>>
>> Well, you me and Forrest (and Gino) are the original gangstas I think.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2018 2:39 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] reply test
>>
>>
>> Just you and me Chuck.
>>
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>> bp
>> 
>>
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>> On 6/24/2018 1:38 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

[Robert Andrews]

oh. or any 48 and makes it +48  i.e pass through if already ok...

On 06/24/2018 02:45 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

How about a dc-dc poe/SS that takes –48 and converts to +48, 24v etc ?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on 
behalf of Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>

Date: Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 12:53 PM
To: Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>, 
David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>>

Cc: AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Me too...
So, what appetite is there for an inline POE regulator that would 
convert 48 to 24?

*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:50 AM
*To:* Dave
*Cc:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz
ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all...
Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers will happily take 48v. 
Mikrotik is finally starting to make most of the new stuff handle 48v 
(including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT is the reason I still have 
to use 24v on most of our towers... they make a converter you can stick 
on in line with the radios, but that's kind of a pain if you have more 
than one or two, and it's an extra part to fail.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dave  wrote:

They make dental floss for that  :)


On 06/21/2018 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Except for every single Ubnt device and a majority of Mikrotiks
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh Baird 
wrote:

I promise life will be easier if you just use 48V.  :)
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:

I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro to power up two epmp
APs.  The 5 GHz is just fine but the 2 GHz is saying
current too low.  Both ports are getting 23 volts and the
cables are <10 feet (from the Powerbox Pro).
Does anyone know if the 2ghz requires more voltage possibly?
Spec sheet does say 23 volts min but it's weird one powers
(5 ghz) and the other doesn't.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St


Suite 1337


Troy, OH 45373


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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

[Chuck McCown]

Not a problem, not cheap.

What kind of form factor?

What kind of in and out voltages?  Certainly doable.
I think Forrest has something similar in his latest stuff.

Would you want it to pull it off of the Ethernet cable and then put it back 
on the Ethernet cable at a different voltage?



-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 4:50 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

oh. or any 48 and makes it +48  i.e pass through if already ok...

On 06/24/2018 02:45 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

How about a dc-dc poe/SS that takes –48 and converts to +48, 24v etc ?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on 
behalf of Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>

Date: Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 12:53 PM
To: Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>, 
David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>>

Cc: AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Me too...
So, what appetite is there for an inline POE regulator that would convert 
48 to 24?

*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:50 AM
*To:* Dave
*Cc:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz
ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all...
Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers will happily take 48v. 
Mikrotik is finally starting to make most of the new stuff handle 48v 
(including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT is the reason I still have to 
use 24v on most of our towers... they make a converter you can stick on in 
line with the radios, but that's kind of a pain if you have more than one 
or two, and it's an extra part to fail.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dave  wrote:

They make dental floss for that  :)


On 06/21/2018 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Except for every single Ubnt device and a majority of Mikrotiks
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh Baird 
wrote:

I promise life will be easier if you just use 48V.  :)
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:

I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro to power up two epmp
APs.  The 5 GHz is just fine but the 2 GHz is saying
current too low.  Both ports are getting 23 volts and the
cables are <10 feet (from the Powerbox Pro).
Does anyone know if the 2ghz requires more voltage possibly?
Spec sheet does say 23 volts min but it's weird one powers
(5 ghz) and the other doesn't.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St


Suite 1337


Troy, OH 45373


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