Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz Noise

[Matt Hoppes]

Yes but that requires equipment manufacturers to get together with the 
utilities and probably make different models of their meters for each frequency.

It’s easier and cheaper for them to just make 900 MHz which everyone everywhere 
can use.

> On Aug 27, 2019, at 5:50 PM, dave via AF  wrote:
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> My beef with utilities is insted of using unlicensed spectrum use a band 
> that make sense for this like 220Mhz which is widely available in most 
> rural areas. One license would take care of our county and it would be 
> your channel completely free of pissed off wisp and baby monitors lol.
> I almost consider utilities public safety which has free rain of all 
> sorts of licensed spectrum that would cover their needs.
> 
> I am even thinking the cambium long reach product would fit the bill in 
> most ca

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Re: [AFMUG] FSK Stability

[Nate Burke]

Don't worry.  I have another site with almost 5years of uptime on the 
APs.It's probably not going away anytime soon.




On 8/27/2019 4:52 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote:

Sniff sniff...

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:45 PM dave via AF > wrote:


Decompd our last one 3 months ago



On 8/27/19 2:57 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

Getting ready to decom some old FSK aps.  Almost makes me sad to
unplug it.







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Re: [AFMUG] FSK Stability

[Chuck Macenski]

Sniff sniff...

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:45 PM dave via AF  wrote:

> Decompd our last one 3 months ago
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> On 8/27/19 2:57 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
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> Getting ready to decom some old FSK aps.  Almost makes me sad to unplug
> it.
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz Noise

[dave via AF]

My beef with utilities is insted of using unlicensed spectrum use a band 
that make sense for this like 220Mhz which is widely available in most 
rural areas. One license would take care of our county and it would be 
your channel completely free of pissed off wisp and baby monitors lol.
I almost consider utilities public safety which has free rain of all 
sorts of licensed spectrum that would cover their needs.


I am even thinking the cambium long reach product would fit the bill in 
most case for Water utilities.



On 8/27/19 12:32 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
+1 Same experience here. Occasionally they will run software updates 
that broadcasts out to about 200 kbps to each meter. It will bring 
your 900 AP's to a crawl. We've coordinated the schedule of meter 
updates with the power company to perform between 2-4am. Thankfully 
they only run updates once or twice a year. Aside from that, it's 
hardly noticeable.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:53 AM Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


Yes actually,

The power company around here just installed 900 MHz smart meters
and what we saw was during the first few weeks when they turned it
on and they were doing software updates there were some
significant modulation issues, although data did still pass.

After the software updates were done we are not seeing any impact
from just a random data polling.

We had communications with the power company to confirm all of this.

On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Ben Royer mailto:operati...@royell.net>> wrote:


Does anyone have any quick and dirty sets of documents discussing
experiences they’ve had with 900mhz smart meters, noise
associated, and any other data points?
Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net 
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Re: [AFMUG] FSK Stability

[dave via AF]

Decompd our last one 3 months ago



On 8/27/19 2:57 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
Getting ready to decom some old FSK aps.  Almost makes me sad to 
unplug it.








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Re: [AFMUG] FSK Stability

[Tyson Burris]

That sh!t just worked man.  So glad I started the network on Motorola Canopy.
A lot of good guys left Motorola towards the end.


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From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:57 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] FSK Stability

Getting ready to decom some old FSK aps.  Almost makes me sad to unplug it.

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Re: [AFMUG] FSK Stability

[Craig Schmaderer]

Nice,  I have a few left.   I have 3 at

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From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 2:57 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] FSK Stability

Getting ready to decom some old FSK aps.  Almost makes me sad to unplug it.

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[AFMUG] FSK Stability

[Nate Burke]

Getting ready to decom some old FSK aps.  Almost makes me sad to unplug it.




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Re: [AFMUG] Rolka Loube and TRS fund

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Rolka Loube and TRS fund


Ken,

the WORST web site ever.

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Does anyone else have frustration with Rolka Loube which administers the TRS Fund payments, or is it just me?  





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[AFMUG] Rolka Loube and TRS fund

[Ken Hohhof]

Does anyone else have frustration with Rolka Loube which administers the TRS
Fund payments, or is it just me?  

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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz Noise

[Eric Muehleisen]

+1 Same experience here. Occasionally they will run software updates that
broadcasts out to about 200 kbps to each meter. It will bring your 900 AP's
to a crawl. We've coordinated the schedule of meter updates with the power
company to perform between 2-4am. Thankfully they only run updates once
or twice a year. Aside from that, it's hardly noticeable.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:53 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Yes actually,
>
> The power company around here just installed 900 MHz smart meters and what
> we saw was during the first few weeks when they turned it on and they were
> doing software updates there were some significant modulation issues,
> although data did still pass.
>
> After the software updates were done we are not seeing any impact from
> just a random data polling.
>
> We had communications with the power company to confirm all of this.
>
> On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Ben Royer  wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any quick and dirty sets of documents discussing
> experiences they’ve had with 900mhz smart meters, noise associated, and any
> other data points?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz Noise

[Matt Hoppes]

Yes actually,

The power company around here just installed 900 MHz smart meters and what we 
saw was during the first few weeks when they turned it on and they were doing 
software updates there were some significant modulation issues, although data 
did still pass.

After the software updates were done we are not seeing any impact from just a 
random data polling. 

We had communications with the power company to confirm all of this.

> On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Ben Royer  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any quick and dirty sets of documents discussing experiences 
> they’ve had with 900mhz smart meters, noise associated, and any other data 
> points?
>  
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
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[AFMUG] 900mhz Noise

[Ben Royer]

Does anyone have any quick and dirty sets of documents discussing experiences 
they’ve had with 900mhz smart meters, noise associated, and any other data 
points?

Thank you,
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Re: [AFMUG] Commercial\Industrial Area Data Set

[Cameron Crum]

You might reach out to Jeremy Frishman at Terrapin Geographic.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:23 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> In the socialist tyranny of NY we have this:
> https://gis.ny.gov/
>
> You can get parcel data for the whole state, then filter for commercial
> zoning codes.
>
>
> On 8/24/2019 5:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
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> I'm looking for places to concentrate investment for B2B services. I can
> start naming off places, but there's something to be said for getting a
> pile of data that presents a big picture.
>
>
> One of the counties near me charges $0.50/parcel for parcel data. At
> volume, that's not a reasonable rate. Others are $20 - $50/layer for the
> whole county.
>
> Overlay that data with 477 data, fiber routes, etc. and see where to build.
>
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> Maybe a little more info on what you are looking for might help.
> It is a little work but a cheap way to find high concentrations of
> businesses is from your tax office. I can go down to my appraisal district,
> pay $20, and get an excel spreadsheet of every business tax payer in the
> county. You can then sort those by address or whatever you like. The more
> sort close to each other with similar addresses the more likely it is a
> commercial area.
>
> Most tax offices also have map servers now. One of the layers is likely a
> zone map that depicts what each area's use is zoned for.
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
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>> Does anyone know if there are and where I could obtain data sets of
>> commercial and industrial areas
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