Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Robert]

Through his braces...

On 8/29/20 2:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Now, talk to him.  Tell him you are god.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:34 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems
Ha...I can see you through my Agent Orange Double Secret Probation 
camera app... Nice living room!

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 3:32 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything
with a Huawei chip.



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*From: *"TJ Trout" 
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
*Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're
welcome ;p
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

I've been leaning towards Hanwha.



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*From: *"Nate Burke" 
*To: *"Animal Farm" 
*Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Camera Systems

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last
one's I did
were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the
software
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and
for the
features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any
other low
cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a
Zoneminder
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for
something
more plug and play.    I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest
cameras, but
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd
really like
something POE.

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go
back and look
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up
to with
live view to see what the weather is like at the site.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Adam Moffett]

To me the statement read as hyperbole.  Jokes don't need to be true, 
they just need to be funny.  It helps if they're partially truewhich 
it is.  It's ok buddy, take it easy.



On 8/29/2020 6:39 PM, justsumname wrote:
Lay off the 'white republican' thing . that is a bullshit, false 
equivalency statement that is easily disproven.
But I can forgive you for making that statement because I don't try to 
argue with peoples' experiences...

...just their conclusions.

I do not understand how people survive without money.  When I don't 
have money, I go hungry.   I must be doing 'life' wrong or something.
I'm not in WISP anymore, but I feel very bad for you guys that are 
still grinding away to make it work with the shittiest of employees.  
 Good for you ... some of you have become quite rich and I'm happy for 
you ( I don't spend much emotional energy on 'envy' )


Personally, I can't stand working with people who can't communicate 
regardless of their racial background.
But maybe that is some 'white privilege' that I can believe in:  
 somehow those people are surviving life with no money (or job).
I was not offended by McCown's statement but I was by yours because it 
was snide.   And stupid.

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On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:17 PM Darin Steffl > wrote:


Now I know why white republicans are so against people immigrating
to the US, because they're afraid non-Americans will take their
jobs and work harder for less money.

Maybe white americans should start working harder for the same
money because honestly, they're lazy. They just want to make a
bunch of money, have great benefits, but then bullshit at the job
all day while taking their sweet time.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:

It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have
accurate numbers or anything.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100%
Hispanic.  Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees
when compared to Hispanics.
*From:* Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK,
he blocked the call and texted back "boss gave me more money".

Well..why look for the other job?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:

So we get this guy to do the pre employment
assessments.  He passes the first interview. Passes
the second interview (had to go to two different
places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today. 
No-show.  Called him to see if he is OK he hangs up on
us.
Sad to say, this is the norm. Out of 100 applications,
10 will actually agree to an interview. Maybe 3 will
show up.  We will hire 1 and he will not show up or
last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find
people and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the
effort of interviewing, we do a background check now
for driving problems, and then a no show.  I don’t
understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Adam Moffett]

I have a friend who really loved that film.  As Bruce Willis movies go, 
it's a relatively obscure title.


On 8/29/2020 7:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Did you ever see the movie “Hudson Hawk”?  (my wife hated that film)  
One of the gimmicks was they were burglars who would sing the same 
song instead of synchronizing watches.


See if you can stream it.  It’s stupid.  You’ll love it.  Your wife 
will probably hate it.


*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:55 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

I've always though those 'talkback' camera adverts were kinda silly.  
What decent thief is going to be scared of a little box talking to 
them.  They should know exactly what the local response time is before 
pulling off the job.


On 8/29/2020 4:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com  wrote:

Now, talk to him.  Tell him you are god.

*From:*Jaime Solorza

*Sent:*Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:34 PM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

Ha...I can see you through my Agent Orange Double Secret Probation
camera app... Nice living room!

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 3:32 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or
anything with a Huawei chip.



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*From: *"TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com>>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's,
you're welcome ;p

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

I've been leaning towards Hanwha.



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*From: *"Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>>
*To: *"Animal Farm" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Camera Systems

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last
one's I did
were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the
software
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago,
and for the
features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any
other low
cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like
a Zoneminder
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking
for something
more plug and play.    I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest
cameras, but
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd
really like
something POE.

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go
back and look
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull
them up to with
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Josh Luthman]

Immigrants to what?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:56 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Technically, even the "natives" are just immigrants. They came from Asia.
>
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Friday, August 28, 2020 5:34:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
> >People who chose to move to another country in search of opportunity are
> generally desperate or very motivated to improve their lot.   We could use
> a hell of a lot more immigrants in this country
>
> This - and keep in mind we're all immigrants.  Unless there's a couple of
> natives around here...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:21 PM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> IMHO, there is some self selecting going on here.  People who chose to
>> move to another country in search of opportunity are generally desperate or
>> very motivated to improve their lot.   We could use a hell of a lot more
>> immigrants in this country, especially in rural areas, but that, like
>> everything else in the world infringes on lent.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have accurate
>>> numbers or anything.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM  wrote:
>>>
 I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
 Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.

 *From:* Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

 Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked
 the call and texted back "boss gave me more money".

 Well..why look for the other job?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:

> So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes
> the first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two
> different places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.
> Called him to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.
>
> Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will
> actually agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and
> he will not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to 
> find
> people and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of
> interviewing, we do a background check now for driving problems, and then 
> a
> no show.  I don’t understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Ken Hohhof]

>From your OnlyFans subscribers?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

 

Can’t make any money that way.

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 29, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:



I hope you have a piece of black electrical tape over the cameras in your 
laptop and phone.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

 

Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything with a Huawei 
chip.



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From: "TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome ;p

 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

I've been leaning towards Hanwha.



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From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> >
To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did 
were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software 
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low 
cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder 
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
something POE.

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with 
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Chuck McCown]

Can’t make any money that way.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> I hope you have a piece of black electrical tape over the cameras in your 
> laptop and phone.
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:32 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems
>  
> Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything with a 
> Huawei chip.
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> From: "TJ Trout" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems
> 
> epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome ;p
>  
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
> I've been leaning towards Hanwha.
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "Nate Burke" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Camera Systems
> 
> I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did 
> were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software 
> seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
> features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low 
> cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder 
> or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
> more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
> it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
> something POE.
> 
> I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
> at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with 
> live view to see what the weather is like at the site.
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Mike Hammett]

If you have any of that gear on your network, sell that gear, or service that 
gear... you aren't allowed to conduct business with various branches of the 
federal government and their contractors, subcontractors, etc. 


That's not something I'm willing to risk, because the feds like to piss away 
money. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 6:23:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems 



I hope you have a piece of black electrical tape over the cameras in your 
laptop and phone. 



From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:32 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems 


Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything with a Huawei 
chip. 



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From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems 

epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome ;p 



On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I've been leaning towards Hanwha. 



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From: "Nate Burke" < n...@blastcomm.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Camera Systems 

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years. Last one's I did 
were Unifi Protect. And although it is still running, the software 
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
features, the cameras are pretty expensive. Are there any other low 
cost turnkey camera solutions out there? I could do like a Zoneminder 
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
more plug and play. I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
something POE. 

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Ken Hohhof]

I hope you have a piece of black electrical tape over the cameras in your 
laptop and phone.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

 

Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything with a Huawei 
chip.



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From: "TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com> >
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome ;p

 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

I've been leaning towards Hanwha.



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From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> >
To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did 
were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software 
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low 
cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder 
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
something POE.

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with 
live view to see what the weather is like at the site.

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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Ken Hohhof]

Did you ever see the movie “Hudson Hawk”?  (my wife hated that film)  One of 
the gimmicks was they were burglars who would sing the same song instead of 
synchronizing watches.

 

See if you can stream it.  It’s stupid.  You’ll love it.  Your wife will 
probably hate it.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

 

I've always though those 'talkback' camera adverts were kinda silly.  What 
decent thief is going to be scared of a little box talking to them.  They 
should know exactly what the local response time is before pulling off the job. 
 

On 8/29/2020 4:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

Now, talk to him.  Tell him you are god.  

 

From: Jaime Solorza 

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:34 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

 

Ha...I can see you through my Agent Orange Double Secret Probation camera 
app... Nice living room! 

 

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Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything with a Huawei 
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From: "TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome ;p

 

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From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> >
To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did 
were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software 
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low 
cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder 
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
something POE.

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is why I can't enjoy things

[Chuck McCown]

I have a player piano and never noticed.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> Analytical to the core. I would never have noticed that, even though I have 
> a reputation for being nit picky.
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 8/29/2020 3:11 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>> So every time I watch the intro to Westworld (I'm only on season2), 
>> something has been bothering me, and I couldn't put my finger on it.  I 
>> finally realized today that the piano roll is mirrored of what it's supposed 
>> to be to play the notes that are sounding.
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Sling has a relatively low cost plan which includes all the news providers.


On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 9:17 AM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> My in laws moved in yesterday. Wife's folks. Gonna be here a few months
> until the house is finished. They looove Fox News and evidently you have to
> have a provider that supports it, pays for it, whatever. Just looking for a
> way for them to stream it until they leave. I have as much use for Fox as I
> do MSNBC personally but whatever. Anyway, just trying to find a way to pay
> someone to get it.
>
> Suddenlink is such a crappy cable provider (mine is fiber) I had to fire
> them. Their internet works great but they can't keep their TV system up.
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:48 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I started Beehive Broadband but am no longer involved.  What is this in
>> reference yo?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > Chuck, is this you?
>> > If so I want to ask for a favor where I pay you money.
>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is why I can't enjoy things

[Bill Prince]

Analytical to the core. I would never have noticed that, even though I 
have a reputation for being nit picky.



bp


On 8/29/2020 3:11 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
So every time I watch the intro to Westworld (I'm only on season2), 
something has been bothering me, and I couldn't put my finger on it.  
I finally realized today that the piano roll is mirrored of what it's 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[justsumname]

Lay off the 'white republican' thing . that is a bullshit, false
equivalency statement that is easily disproven.
But I can forgive you for making that statement because I don't try to
argue with peoples' experiences...
...just their conclusions.

I do not understand how people survive without money.   When I don't have
money, I go hungry.   I must be doing 'life' wrong or something.
I'm not in WISP anymore, but I feel very bad for you guys that are still
grinding away to make it work with the shittiest of employees.   Good for
you ... some of you have become quite rich and I'm happy for you ( I don't
spend much emotional energy on 'envy' )

Personally, I can't stand working with people who can't communicate
regardless of their racial background.
But maybe that is some 'white privilege' that I can believe in:   somehow
those people are surviving life with no money  (or job).
I was not offended by McCown's statement but I was by yours because it was
snide.   And stupid.
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:17 PM Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> Now I know why white republicans are so against people immigrating to the
> US, because they're afraid non-Americans will take their jobs and work
> harder for less money.
>
> Maybe white americans should start working harder for the same money
> because honestly, they're lazy. They just want to make a bunch of money,
> have great benefits, but then bullshit at the job all day while taking
> their sweet time.
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have accurate
>> numbers or anything.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
>>> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>>
>>> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked
>>> the call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>>>
>>> Well..why look for the other job?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:
>>>
 So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
 first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
 places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
 to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.

 Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will
 actually agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and
 he will not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find
 people and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of
 interviewing, we do a background check now for driving problems, and then a
 no show.  I don’t understand people.
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[AFMUG] OT: This is why I can't enjoy things

[Nate Burke]

So every time I watch the intro to Westworld (I'm only on season2), 
something has been bothering me, and I couldn't put my finger on it.  I 
finally realized today that the piano roll is mirrored of what it's 
supposed to be to play the notes that are sounding.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Steve Jones]

I dont think people understand value, just an arbitrary per hour number.
Most of the "unregistered citizens" around here live 20 or more to a rental
house. They dont have iphones and xboxes and every streaming service under
the sun and claim a living wage is what's required.
They eat together, buy in bulk.
Their wages arent anywhere near as low as people assume. Their costs and
needs are so low, that at minimum wage taxes, or cash untaxed. They have
more free capital than most middle class americans.

I think that's why they're always smiling, they look at us, looking at them
from our debt saddle thinking they're dumb as we go bankrupt on 5 times
their wage.

It sucks one side of our country doesnt want them coming in legally,
specifically to keep them down as political pawns and the other side only
wants them coming in legally but wont open the fucking door.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 2:39 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> The Wall... doesn't stop drugs from coming in demand is high (pun
> intended) here, they $upply.
> The Wall ... doesn't stop people looking for work from coming in...demand
> is high for a low cost dependable work force...American companies $upply.
> Don't paint us all as cheap labor.
> Some of us are engineers..lil brother EE at Raytheon, chemist ..lil
> brother at TVA, forensic accountant for guvment, lil sis..etc.
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Yeahthere are two separate comments there.
>>
>> 1) If someone really loses their job to an immigrant, that's their own
>> damn fault.
>> 2) The ones who come illegally do it because there's a market for them.
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/2020 3:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> All good points, except if they are migrant laborers on work visas, they
>> aren’t illegal immigrants.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF   *On
>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 2:23 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>
>>
>>
>> My mother was a bookkeeper for a good size dairy farm.  I don't know what
>> "good size" is in other areas, but here it's 6 figures of head of cattle,
>> and millions of dollars annually.  Every single worker was brought up from
>> central america on a work visa.  The farm gave them a trailer to live in
>> and paid them $8-something per hourwhich at the time was 50% above
>> minimum.  The local Caucasians would generally not show up sober for that
>> amount of money.
>>
>> Closer to the present I was arguing with my brother about immigration and
>> specifically "The Wall".
>>
>> I cited the economic problems we'd have without the migrant labor.  He
>> shouted at me that we should let the free market come up with a solution.
>> I looked at him quizzically and said, "Brothe free market HAS a
>> solution, and it's the illegal immigrants."
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/2020 12:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I have been doing this for a long time.  Both manufacturing and OSP
>> construction.  The entry level and unskilled labor candidates are of
>> general lousy quality amongst whites.  All the drama and drug use is with
>> the whites.  Hispanics work hard, quick learners, don’t cause problems and
>> have far less drug issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had a white guy get fired a few days ago, (the one that we had to take
>> back to the office mid shift), that when confronted with chronic
>> absenteeism, not sharing the load with coworkers, being confrontational
>> with coworkers etc attempted to justify all of this with “well we wouldn’t
>> have these problems if you guys bought new equipment” !?!  Right before
>> getting fired his supervisor asked: “That vacuum excavator sprays water and
>> sucks mud, how would it be any better if it was brand new?”.  The guys
>> mumbled something about a lousy company operates lousy equipment.  And that
>> our OT is crimping his freedom.  Supervisor told him that it was his lucky
>> day.  He was about to get a ton of freedom.
>>
>>
>>
>> But this is somewhat of a typical thing.  Lazy entitled white bums.  We
>> have a ton of them around here it seems.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Cameron Crum
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 10:01 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>
>>
>>
>> I had a self-identified mexican contractor working on my house one time
>> and he told me he only hires other mexicans because they are Mexi-CANs not
>> Mexi-CAN'Ts.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM  wrote:
>>
>> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
>> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>
>>
>>
>> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the
>> call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>>
>> Well..why look for the other job?
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Nate Burke]

I've always though those 'talkback' camera adverts were kinda silly.  
What decent thief is going to be scared of a little box talking to 
them.  They should know exactly what the local response time is before 
pulling off the job.


On 8/29/2020 4:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Now, talk to him.  Tell him you are god.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:34 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems
Ha...I can see you through my Agent Orange Double Secret Probation 
camera app... Nice living room!

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 3:32 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything
with a Huawei chip.



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*From: *"TJ Trout" 
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
*Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're
welcome ;p
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

I've been leaning towards Hanwha.



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*From: *"Nate Burke" 
*To: *"Animal Farm" 
*Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Camera Systems

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last
one's I did
were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the
software
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and
for the
features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any
other low
cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a
Zoneminder
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for
something
more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest
cameras, but
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd
really like
something POE.

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go
back and look
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up
to with
live view to see what the weather is like at the site.

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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[chuck]

Now, talk to him.  Tell him you are god.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

Ha...I can see you through my Agent Orange Double Secret Probation camera 
app... Nice living room! 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 3:32 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

  Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything with a 
Huawei chip.




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  Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems


  epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome ;p

  On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

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From: "Nate Burke" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did 
were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software 
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low 
cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder 
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
something POE.

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with 
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha...I can see you through my Agent Orange Double Secret Probation camera
app... Nice living room!

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 3:32 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything with a
> Huawei chip.
>
>
>
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> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems
>
> epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome
> ;p
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> I've been leaning towards Hanwha.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Nate Burke" 
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Camera Systems
>>
>> I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did
>> were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software
>> seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the
>> features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low
>> cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder
>> or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something
>> more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but
>> it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like
>> something POE.
>>
>> I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look
>> at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with
>> live view to see what the weather is like at the site.
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Mike Hammett]

Yeah, no way I'm ever dealing with Hikvision, Dahua, or anything with a Huawei 
chip. 




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- Original Message -

From: "TJ Trout"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:06:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems 


epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome ;p 


On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I've been leaning towards Hanwha. 




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From: "Nate Burke" < n...@blastcomm.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Camera Systems 

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years. Last one's I did 
were Unifi Protect. And although it is still running, the software 
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
features, the cameras are pretty expensive. Are there any other low 
cost turnkey camera solutions out there? I could do like a Zoneminder 
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
more plug and play. I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
something POE. 

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with 
live view to see what the weather is like at the site. 

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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep ..talk to Efrain or Bryan...tell them you are my friend and to give you
my pricing...I know the owner and have been doing business with them since
1993.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 3:07 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome
> ;p
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> I've been leaning towards Hanwha.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Camera Systems
>>
>> I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did
>> were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software
>> seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the
>> features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low
>> cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder
>> or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something
>> more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but
>> it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like
>> something POE.
>>
>> I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look
>> at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with
>> live view to see what the weather is like at the site.
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[TJ Trout]

epcom has the least expensive hikvision cameras and NVR's, you're welcome ;p

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I've been leaning towards Hanwha.
>
>
>
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> 
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> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Camera Systems
>
> I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did
> were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software
> seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the
> features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low
> cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder
> or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something
> more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but
> it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like
> something POE.
>
> I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look
> at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with
> live view to see what the weather is like at the site.
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Re: [AFMUG] Java

[Josh Luthman]

Most of their stuff is HTML.  What Ubnt switch required Java for the config?

The spectrum analyzer migrated to HTML with the AC series gear.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:46 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> My new UBNT switch required Java to run the config program,
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:47 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
>
> 
> I don't use much Ubnt other than AirFiber and GPON, but I haven't seen any
> Java being used since the AF5X non-HD series. Can't think of any radio
> manufacturer that has implemented a Java-requiring interface within the
> last 3 years.
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 9:02 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Is UBNT making any moves away from Java?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Mike Hammett]

I've been leaning towards Hanwha. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Nate Burke"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:11:57 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Camera Systems 

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years. Last one's I did 
were Unifi Protect. And although it is still running, the software 
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
features, the cameras are pretty expensive. Are there any other low 
cost turnkey camera solutions out there? I could do like a Zoneminder 
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
more plug and play. I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
something POE. 

I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with 
live view to see what the weather is like at the site. 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Jaime Solorza]

The Wall... doesn't stop drugs from coming in demand is high (pun
intended) here, they $upply.
The Wall ... doesn't stop people looking for work from coming in...demand
is high for a low cost dependable work force...American companies $upply.
Don't paint us all as cheap labor.
Some of us are engineers..lil brother EE at Raytheon, chemist ..lil brother
at TVA, forensic accountant for guvment, lil sis..etc.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Yeahthere are two separate comments there.
>
> 1) If someone really loses their job to an immigrant, that's their own
> damn fault.
> 2) The ones who come illegally do it because there's a market for them.
>
>
> On 8/28/2020 3:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> All good points, except if they are migrant laborers on work visas, they
> aren’t illegal immigrants.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 2:23 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> My mother was a bookkeeper for a good size dairy farm.  I don't know what
> "good size" is in other areas, but here it's 6 figures of head of cattle,
> and millions of dollars annually.  Every single worker was brought up from
> central america on a work visa.  The farm gave them a trailer to live in
> and paid them $8-something per hourwhich at the time was 50% above
> minimum.  The local Caucasians would generally not show up sober for that
> amount of money.
>
> Closer to the present I was arguing with my brother about immigration and
> specifically "The Wall".
>
> I cited the economic problems we'd have without the migrant labor.  He
> shouted at me that we should let the free market come up with a solution.
> I looked at him quizzically and said, "Brothe free market HAS a
> solution, and it's the illegal immigrants."
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2020 12:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I have been doing this for a long time.  Both manufacturing and OSP
> construction.  The entry level and unskilled labor candidates are of
> general lousy quality amongst whites.  All the drama and drug use is with
> the whites.  Hispanics work hard, quick learners, don’t cause problems and
> have far less drug issues.
>
>
>
> I had a white guy get fired a few days ago, (the one that we had to take
> back to the office mid shift), that when confronted with chronic
> absenteeism, not sharing the load with coworkers, being confrontational
> with coworkers etc attempted to justify all of this with “well we wouldn’t
> have these problems if you guys bought new equipment” !?!  Right before
> getting fired his supervisor asked: “That vacuum excavator sprays water and
> sucks mud, how would it be any better if it was brand new?”.  The guys
> mumbled something about a lousy company operates lousy equipment.  And that
> our OT is crimping his freedom.  Supervisor told him that it was his lucky
> day.  He was about to get a ton of freedom.
>
>
>
> But this is somewhat of a typical thing.  Lazy entitled white bums.  We
> have a ton of them around here it seems.
>
>
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 10:01 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> I had a self-identified mexican contractor working on my house one time
> and he told me he only hires other mexicans because they are Mexi-CANs not
> Mexi-CAN'Ts.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM  wrote:
>
> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the
> call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>
> Well..why look for the other job?
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:
>
> So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
> first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
> places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
> to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.
>
>
>
> Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually
> agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he will
> not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people
> and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we
> do a background check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I
> don’t understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Jaime Solorza]

Bingo

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 10:17 AM Darin Steffl  wrote:

> Now I know why white republicans are so against people immigrating to the
> US, because they're afraid non-Americans will take their jobs and work
> harder for less money.
>
> Maybe white americans should start working harder for the same money
> because honestly, they're lazy. They just want to make a bunch of money,
> have great benefits, but then bullshit at the job all day while taking
> their sweet time.
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have accurate
>> numbers or anything.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
>>> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>>
>>> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked
>>> the call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>>>
>>> Well..why look for the other job?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:
>>>
 So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
 first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
 places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
 to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.

 Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will
 actually agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and
 he will not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find
 people and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of
 interviewing, we do a background check now for driving problems, and then a
 no show.  I don’t understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Jaime Solorza]

I have had great success with Hikvision cameras and NVRs..

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 12:13 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did
> were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software
> seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the
> features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low
> cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder
> or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something
> more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but
> it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like
> something POE.
>
> I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look
> at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with
> live view to see what the weather is like at the site.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Getting some people to think past breakfast, lunch, or dinner is
  a challenge these days.
Are there snacks?!?


bp



On 8/29/2020 11:44 AM, Ken Hohhof
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
My neighbor has some Hispanic people
  building a decorative fence around his patio.  They only come
  on weekends, so it’s probably a side gig.
 
The entire family comes in the crew cab
  pickup, and I mean the entire family.  Mom, Dad, sons,
  daughter.  Even the boy who looks to be about 6 carries tools
  and materials.  OSHA would have a fit, but they have no
  jurisdiction over family member employees.
 
But like Jaime says, learn to value work
  from an early age.  Many are religious and family oriented, I
  would think conservatives would love them, I don’t quite
  understand the animosity.  “Taking our jobs” I guess, but
  nobody else wants a lot of the jobs.  Your typical American
  wants to be like Mark Zuckerberg, worth $200 billion and how
  hard did he work for it?  Got the idea for a “face book”,
  maybe wrote a few lines of code in the beginning, hardest job
  he’s ever done is put on a suit and tie and sit in
  Congressional hearings and get yelled at.
 
What other examples do we have in current
  American culture?  Celebrity parents who pay bribes to get
  their kids into elite colleges so they can cut classes to be
  “influencers”.  Or the whole Kardashian family.  At least
  professional athletes are told they need another line of work
  to fall back on after 10 years, is anybody telling that to the
  influencers and professional gamers?
 
 

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of Jaime
Solorza
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:07 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

 

  Work ethic is taught to us at an early
age.  
  
Respect your boss, respect your work.
  
  
Not in a subservient manner but the
  reality of the value of good work.
  
  
Proteje tu trabajo.
  

 

  
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 9:39 AM 
  wrote:
  
  

  

  
I swear, if
they were available, my company would be 100%
Hispanic.  Racist or not, white guys are lousy
employees when compared to Hispanics.  
  
  

  
 
  
  

  From:
  Josh Luthman 


  Sent:
  Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM


  To:
  AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 


  Subject:
  Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

  


   

  
  

  Same
  here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he
  was OK, he blocked the call and texted back
  "boss gave me more money".
  
  Well..why look for the other job?
  
  

  

   

Josh
Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
  

  
  
 
  


   


  
On Fri,
Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM 

Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Ken Hohhof]

My neighbor has some Hispanic people building a decorative fence around his 
patio.  They only come on weekends, so it’s probably a side gig.

 

The entire family comes in the crew cab pickup, and I mean the entire family.  
Mom, Dad, sons, daughter.  Even the boy who looks to be about 6 carries tools 
and materials.  OSHA would have a fit, but they have no jurisdiction over 
family member employees.

 

But like Jaime says, learn to value work from an early age.  Many are religious 
and family oriented, I would think conservatives would love them, I don’t quite 
understand the animosity.  “Taking our jobs” I guess, but nobody else wants a 
lot of the jobs.  Your typical American wants to be like Mark Zuckerberg, worth 
$200 billion and how hard did he work for it?  Got the idea for a “face book”, 
maybe wrote a few lines of code in the beginning, hardest job he’s ever done is 
put on a suit and tie and sit in Congressional hearings and get yelled at.

 

What other examples do we have in current American culture?  Celebrity parents 
who pay bribes to get their kids into elite colleges so they can cut classes to 
be “influencers”.  Or the whole Kardashian family.  At least professional 
athletes are told they need another line of work to fall back on after 10 
years, is anybody telling that to the influencers and professional gamers?

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:07 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

 

Work ethic is taught to us at an early age.  

Respect your boss, respect your work.

Not in a subservient manner but the reality of the value of good work.

Proteje tu trabajo.

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 9:39 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.  Racist or 
not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

 

Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the call 
and texted back "boss gave me more money".

Well..why look for the other job?


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the first 
interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different places for 
the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him to see if he 
is OK he hangs up on us.  

 

Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually agree 
to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he will not show up 
or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people and I am paying 
for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we do a background 
check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I don’t understand people. 
 

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Re: [AFMUG] MPPT with web/snmp

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Outback and Midnite controllers seem to just keep running. Not
  the cheapest around, but they aren't outrageous either. The
  internals of both of these are almost identical, as they have
  their roots in the same handful of people. They might buy their
  cases from the same vendor.


bp



On 8/29/2020 11:19 AM, Gino A.
  Villarini wrote:


  
  
  
  
What is the
latest and the greatest for a small site that wouldn’t break
the bank?

  
  
  Gino Villarini
  
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 
  

  

  
  
   
   
   
   
   
  
  

  

www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo,
  PR 00968
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Having a job, and having a job you enjoy are two different
  things. If you're unhappy with your current employment, there's
  nothing wrong with going fishing.
Given the right industry, you can turn serious coin by switching
  employers.


bp



On 8/29/2020 11:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  I wouldn’t bash Indeed, we get lots of applications.  But
everyone and their dog seems to apply.  And good candidates
are not usually looking for a job because they already have
one.
  

   
  
From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
  

 
  
  
what is the deal with indeed? it seems like a
  class product lately. Is it just where scumbags go
  employee and employer or are professionals more accustomed
  to headhunters and linkedn or something. I just see alot
  of indeed bashing lately
 

  On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at
12:38 PM 
wrote:
  
  

  

  I would say that agrees with my experience. 
Respect is a common element amongst Hispanics.
  The opposite with the white trash that seem
to apply on indeed.  
  

   
  
From: Jaime Solorza

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020
  10:06 AM
To: AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new
  hires
  

 
  
  
Work ethic is taught to us at an early
  age.  
  Respect your boss, respect your work.
  Not in a subservient manner but the
reality of the value of good work.
  Proteje tu trabajo.

 

  On Fri, Aug
28, 2020, 9:39 AM 
wrote:
  
  

  

  I swear, if they were available,
my company would be 100% Hispanic. 
Racist or not, white guys are lousy
employees when compared to
Hispanics.  
  

   
  
From: Josh
Luthman 
Sent: Friday, August
  28, 2020 9:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
  OT new hires
  

 
  
  
Same here.  He didn't
  show up, called to see if he was
  OK, he blocked the call and texted
  back "boss gave me more money".
  
  Well..why look for the other job?
  

  
 
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
  

[AFMUG] MPPT with web/snmp

[Gino A. Villarini]

What is the latest and the greatest for a small site that wouldn’t break the 
bank?

Gino Villarini
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
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[AFMUG] Camera Systems

[Nate Burke]

I haven't put any new cameras in for a couple years.  Last one's I did 
were Unifi Protect.  And although it is still running, the software 
seems to be just as buggy as it was all those years ago, and for the 
features, the cameras are pretty expensive.  Are there any other low 
cost turnkey camera solutions out there?  I could do like a Zoneminder 
or BlueIris, but I'm lazy in my old age and was looking for something 
more plug and play.I'm intrigued by the Blink or Nest cameras, but 
it looks like their only options are WIFI cameras, and I'd really like 
something POE.


I'm looking to put 2-3 cameras at tower sites, so I can go back and look 
at recordings to see if anyone has been there, or pull them up to with 
live view to see what the weather is like at the site.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[chuck]

I wouldn’t bash Indeed, we get lots of applications.  But everyone and their 
dog seems to apply.  And good candidates are not usually looking for a job 
because they already have one.

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

what is the deal with indeed? it seems like a class product lately. Is it just 
where scumbags go employee and employer or are professionals more accustomed to 
headhunters and linkedn or something. I just see alot of indeed bashing lately

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM  wrote:

  I would say that agrees with my experience.  Respect is a common element 
amongst Hispanics.
  The opposite with the white trash that seem to apply on indeed.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:06 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

  Work ethic is taught to us at an early age.   
  Respect your boss, respect your work.
  Not in a subservient manner but the reality of the value of good work.
  Proteje tu trabajo.

  On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 9:39 AM  wrote:

I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.  Racist 
or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the 
call and texted back "boss gave me more money".

Well..why look for the other job?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:

  So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the 
first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different 
places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him to 
see if he is OK he hangs up on us.  

  Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually 
agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he will not 
show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people and I am 
paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we do a 
background check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I don’t 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Steve Jones]

what is the deal with indeed? it seems like a class product lately. Is it
just where scumbags go employee and employer or are professionals more
accustomed to headhunters and linkedn or something. I just see alot of
indeed bashing lately

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM  wrote:

> I would say that agrees with my experience.  Respect is a common element
> amongst Hispanics.
> The opposite with the white trash that seem to apply on indeed.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:06 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
> Work ethic is taught to us at an early age.
> Respect your boss, respect your work.
> Not in a subservient manner but the reality of the value of good work.
> Proteje tu trabajo.
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 9:39 AM  wrote:
>
>> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
>> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>
>> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the
>> call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>>
>> Well..why look for the other job?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
>>> first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
>>> places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
>>> to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.
>>>
>>> Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually
>>> agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he will
>>> not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people
>>> and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we
>>> do a background check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I
>>> don’t understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[chuck]

I would say that agrees with my experience.  Respect is a common element 
amongst Hispanics.
The opposite with the white trash that seem to apply on indeed.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:06 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

Work ethic is taught to us at an early age.   
Respect your boss, respect your work.
Not in a subservient manner but the reality of the value of good work.
Proteje tu trabajo.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 9:39 AM  wrote:

  I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.  Racist 
or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

  Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the 
call and texted back "boss gave me more money".

  Well..why look for the other job?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:

So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the 
first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different 
places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him to 
see if he is OK he hangs up on us.  

Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually 
agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he will not 
show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people and I am 
paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we do a 
background check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I don’t 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[chuck]

Not mine, I gots UFO blood in me.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:55 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

Technically, even the "natives" are just immigrants. They came from Asia.




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From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 5:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires


>People who chose to move to another country in search of opportunity are 
>generally desperate or very motivated to improve their lot.   We could use a 
>hell of a lot more immigrants in this country 

This - and keep in mind we're all immigrants.  Unless there's a couple of 
natives around here...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:21 PM Carl Peterson  
wrote:

  IMHO, there is some self selecting going on here.  People who chose to move 
to another country in search of opportunity are generally desperate or very 
motivated to improve their lot.   We could use a hell of a lot more immigrants 
in this country, especially in rural areas, but that, like everything else in 
the world infringes on lent.  

  On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman  
wrote:

It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have accurate 
numbers or anything.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM  wrote:

  I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.  
Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

  Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the 
call and texted back "boss gave me more money".

  Well..why look for the other job?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:

So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the 
first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different 
places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him to 
see if he is OK he hangs up on us.  

Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will 
actually agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he 
will not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people 
and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we do a 
background check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I don’t 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Robert]

There is a theory backed by DNA research that after the Supervolcano 
explosion in the far east the population of Homo Sapiens dropped to a 
few thousand, maybe much less, so not quite the garden of eden, but 
close enough for government work..  After a population of hundreds of 
thousands if not a million.


On 8/29/20 10:10 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

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On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:56 AM Mike Hammett > wrote:


Technically, even the "natives" are just immigrants. They came
from Asia.



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*From: *"Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Friday, August 28, 2020 5:34:03 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

>People who chose to move to another country in search of
opportunity are generally desperate or very motivated to improve
their lot.   We could use a hell of a lot more immigrants in this
country

This - and keep in mind we're all immigrants. Unless there's a
couple of natives around here...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:21 PM Carl Peterson
mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>>
wrote:

IMHO, there is some self selecting going on here.  People who
chose to move to another country in search of opportunity are
generally desperate or very motivated to improve their lot. 
 We could use a hell of a lot more immigrants in this country,
especially in rural areas, but that, like everything else in
the world infringes on lent.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't
have accurate numbers or anything.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I swear, if they were available, my company would be
100% Hispanic.  Racist or not, white guys are lousy
employees when compared to Hispanics.
*From:* Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was
OK, he blocked the call and texted back "boss gave me
more money".

Well..why look for the other job?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:

So we get this guy to do the pre employment
assessments.  He passes the first interview. 
Passes the second interview (had to go to two
different places for the interviews).  Supposed to
start today. No-show.  Called him to see if he is
OK he hangs up on us.
Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100
applications, 10 will actually agree to an
interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1
and he will not show up or last out the week. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Bill Prince]

True. And the Asians probably came from Africa.

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On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:56 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Technically, even the "natives" are just immigrants. They came from Asia.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Friday, August 28, 2020 5:34:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
> >People who chose to move to another country in search of opportunity are
> generally desperate or very motivated to improve their lot.   We could use
> a hell of a lot more immigrants in this country
>
> This - and keep in mind we're all immigrants.  Unless there's a couple of
> natives around here...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:21 PM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> IMHO, there is some self selecting going on here.  People who chose to
>> move to another country in search of opportunity are generally desperate or
>> very motivated to improve their lot.   We could use a hell of a lot more
>> immigrants in this country, especially in rural areas, but that, like
>> everything else in the world infringes on lent.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have accurate
>>> numbers or anything.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM  wrote:
>>>
 I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
 Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.

 *From:* Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

 Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked
 the call and texted back "boss gave me more money".

 Well..why look for the other job?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:

> So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes
> the first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two
> different places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.
> Called him to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.
>
> Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will
> actually agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and
> he will not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to 
> find
> people and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of
> interviewing, we do a background check now for driving problems, and then 
> a
> no show.  I don’t understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

[Lewis Bergman]

Thanks all. I'll look into Sling. No idea if they cancelled it. Don't think
they are sure if they cancelled it.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> The simplest way is probably to just sign up for Sling TV for a few months
> (or one of the other streaming services, but I think Sling is the cheapest
> one that has Fox News).
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 10:44 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Did they cancel their TV subscription at home during the construction?
>> If not, can’t they just access Fox News Go over your Internet using their
>> cable or satellite TV subscription ID?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:24 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have a box that can receive it OTA.  I would be happy to sling it
>> to you.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:16 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
>>
>>
>>
>> My in laws moved in yesterday. Wife's folks. Gonna be here a few months
>> until the house is finished. They looove Fox News and evidently you have to
>> have a provider that supports it, pays for it, whatever. Just looking for a
>> way for them to stream it until they leave. I have as much use for Fox as I
>> do MSNBC personally but whatever. Anyway, just trying to find a way to pay
>> someone to get it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Suddenlink is such a crappy cable provider (mine is fiber) I had to fire
>> them. Their internet works great but they can't keep their TV system up.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:48 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> I started Beehive Broadband but am no longer involved.  What is this in
>> reference yo?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > Chuck, is this you?
>> > If so I want to ask for a favor where I pay you money.
>> >
>> > --
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>> > 325-439-0533 Cell
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Mike Hammett]

Technically, even the "natives" are just immigrants. They came from Asia. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 5:34:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires 


>People who chose to move to another country in search of opportunity are 
>generally desperate or very motivated to improve their lot. We could use a 
>hell of a lot more immigrants in this country 


This - and keep in mind we're all immigrants. Unless there's a couple of 
natives around here... 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:21 PM Carl Peterson < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > 
wrote: 




IMHO, there is some self selecting going on here. People who chose to move to 
another country in search of opportunity are generally desperate or very 
motivated to improve their lot. We could use a hell of a lot more immigrants in 
this country, especially in rural areas, but that, like everything else in the 
world infringes on lent. 


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have accurate numbers 
or anything. 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic. Racist or 
not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics. 




From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires 


Same here. He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the call 
and texted back "boss gave me more money". 

Well..why look for the other job? 




Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments. He passes the first 
interview. Passes the second interview (had to go to two different places for 
the interviews). Supposed to start today. No-show. Called him to see if he is 
OK he hangs up on us. 

Sad to say, this is the norm. Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually agree 
to an interview. Maybe 3 will show up. We will hire 1 and he will not show up 
or last out the week. Indeed works pretty good to find people and I am paying 
for it, but wow. Go to all the effort of interviewing, we do a background check 
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Re: [AFMUG] 5.7 band too noisy?

[Matt Hoppes]

Looks fine to me. 

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:32 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'd kill for noise that low.
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 11:21 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>> I just turned off all of my 450 AP's at this site and did a spectrum scan 
>> this early morning. Currently they are all in 30 mhz and am wanting to up 
>> them to 40 mhz, but I am afraid that the 5.7 band is too noisy. What does 
>> the hive think?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

[Mathew Howard]

The simplest way is probably to just sign up for Sling TV for a few months
(or one of the other streaming services, but I think Sling is the cheapest
one that has Fox News).

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 10:44 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Did they cancel their TV subscription at home during the construction?  If
> not, can’t they just access Fox News Go over your Internet using their
> cable or satellite TV subscription ID?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:24 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
>
>
>
> If you have a box that can receive it OTA.  I would be happy to sling it
> to you.
>
>
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:16 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
>
>
>
> My in laws moved in yesterday. Wife's folks. Gonna be here a few months
> until the house is finished. They looove Fox News and evidently you have to
> have a provider that supports it, pays for it, whatever. Just looking for a
> way for them to stream it until they leave. I have as much use for Fox as I
> do MSNBC personally but whatever. Anyway, just trying to find a way to pay
> someone to get it.
>
>
>
> Suddenlink is such a crappy cable provider (mine is fiber) I had to fire
> them. Their internet works great but they can't keep their TV system up.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:48 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> I started Beehive Broadband but am no longer involved.  What is this in
> reference yo?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Chuck, is this you?
> > If so I want to ask for a favor where I pay you money.
> >
> > --
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> > 325-439-0533 Cell
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Jaime Solorza]

Work ethic is taught to us at an early age.
Respect your boss, respect your work.
Not in a subservient manner but the reality of the value of good work.
Proteje tu trabajo.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 9:39 AM  wrote:

> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the
> call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>
> Well..why look for the other job?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:
>
>> So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
>> first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
>> places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
>> to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.
>>
>> Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually
>> agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he will
>> not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people
>> and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we
>> do a background check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I
>> don’t understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

[Ken Hohhof]

Did they cancel their TV subscription at home during the construction?  If not, 
can’t they just access Fox News Go over your Internet using their cable or 
satellite TV subscription ID?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

 

If you have a box that can receive it OTA.  I would be happy to sling it to 
you.  

 

From: Lewis Bergman 

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:16 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

 

My in laws moved in yesterday. Wife's folks. Gonna be here a few months until 
the house is finished. They looove Fox News and evidently you have to have a 
provider that supports it, pays for it, whatever. Just looking for a way for 
them to stream it until they leave. I have as much use for Fox as I do MSNBC 
personally but whatever. Anyway, just trying to find a way to pay someone to 
get it. 

 

Suddenlink is such a crappy cable provider (mine is fiber) I had to fire them. 
Their internet works great but they can't keep their TV system up.

 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:48 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

I started Beehive Broadband but am no longer involved.  What is this in 
reference yo?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Lewis Bergman   > wrote:
> 
> 
> Chuck, is this you?
> If so I want to ask for a favor where I pay you money.
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

[chuck]

If you have a box that can receive it OTA.  I would be happy to sling it to 
you.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

My in laws moved in yesterday. Wife's folks. Gonna be here a few months until 
the house is finished. They looove Fox News and evidently you have to have a 
provider that supports it, pays for it, whatever. Just looking for a way for 
them to stream it until they leave. I have as much use for Fox as I do MSNBC 
personally but whatever. Anyway, just trying to find a way to pay someone to 
get it. 

Suddenlink is such a crappy cable provider (mine is fiber) I had to fire them. 
Their internet works great but they can't keep their TV system up.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:48 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I started Beehive Broadband but am no longer involved.  What is this in 
reference yo?

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
  > 
  > 
  > Chuck, is this you?
  > If so I want to ask for a favor where I pay you money.
  > 
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Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

[Lewis Bergman]

My in laws moved in yesterday. Wife's folks. Gonna be here a few months
until the house is finished. They looove Fox News and evidently you have to
have a provider that supports it, pays for it, whatever. Just looking for a
way for them to stream it until they leave. I have as much use for Fox as I
do MSNBC personally but whatever. Anyway, just trying to find a way to pay
someone to get it.

Suddenlink is such a crappy cable provider (mine is fiber) I had to fire
them. Their internet works great but they can't keep their TV system up.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:48 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I started Beehive Broadband but am no longer involved.  What is this in
> reference yo?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Chuck, is this you?
> > If so I want to ask for a favor where I pay you money.
> >
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> > 325-439-0533 Cell
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Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

[Chuck McCown]

I started Beehive Broadband but am no longer involved.  What is this in 
reference yo?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Chuck, is this you?
> If so I want to ask for a favor where I pay you money.
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Java

[Chuck McCown]

My new UBNT switch required Java to run the config program,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:47 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't use much Ubnt other than AirFiber and GPON, but I haven't seen any 
> Java being used since the AF5X non-HD series. Can't think of any radio 
> manufacturer that has implemented a Java-requiring interface within the last 
> 3 years.
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 9:02 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> Is UBNT making any moves away from Java?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

[Lewis Bergman]

Chuck, is this you?
If so I want to ask for a favor where I pay you money.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Lewis Bergman]

Now thats funny, because it's true.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 2:23 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> My mother was a bookkeeper for a good size dairy farm.  I don't know what
> "good size" is in other areas, but here it's 6 figures of head of cattle,
> and millions of dollars annually.  Every single worker was brought up from
> central america on a work visa.  The farm gave them a trailer to live in
> and paid them $8-something per hourwhich at the time was 50% above
> minimum.  The local Caucasians would generally not show up sober for that
> amount of money.
>
> Closer to the present I was arguing with my brother about immigration and
> specifically "The Wall".
>
> I cited the economic problems we'd have without the migrant labor.  He
> shouted at me that we should let the free market come up with a solution.
> I looked at him quizzically and said, "Brothe free market HAS a
> solution, and it's the illegal immigrants."
>
>
> On 8/28/2020 12:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I have been doing this for a long time.  Both manufacturing and OSP
> construction.  The entry level and unskilled labor candidates are of
> general lousy quality amongst whites.  All the drama and drug use is with
> the whites.  Hispanics work hard, quick learners, don’t cause problems and
> have far less drug issues.
>
> I had a white guy get fired a few days ago, (the one that we had to take
> back to the office mid shift), that when confronted with chronic
> absenteeism, not sharing the load with coworkers, being confrontational
> with coworkers etc attempted to justify all of this with “well we wouldn’t
> have these problems if you guys bought new equipment” !?!  Right before
> getting fired his supervisor asked: “That vacuum excavator sprays water and
> sucks mud, how would it be any better if it was brand new?”.  The guys
> mumbled something about a lousy company operates lousy equipment.  And that
> our OT is crimping his freedom.  Supervisor told him that it was his lucky
> day.  He was about to get a ton of freedom.
>
> But this is somewhat of a typical thing.  Lazy entitled white bums.  We
> have a ton of them around here it seems.
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 10:01 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
> I had a self-identified mexican contractor working on my house one time
> and he told me he only hires other mexicans because they are Mexi-CANs not
> Mexi-CAN'Ts.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM  wrote:
>
>> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
>> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>
>> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the
>> call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>>
>> Well..why look for the other job?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
>>> first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
>>> places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
>>> to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.
>>>
>>> Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually
>>> agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he will
>>> not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people
>>> and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we
>>> do a background check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I
>>> don’t understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Lewis Bergman]

I don't get it.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:48 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> There’s a folk tale about a father who is going to give the feeble old
> grandfather a blanket and send him away.  The grandson say an old man
> doesn’t need such a big blanket, cut it in half and give the other half to
> me.  The father agrees but asks what his son wants with the other half
> blanket, and he replies “I’m going to save it for when I send you away”.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 1:24 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> Logan’s run.
>
> Soylant green.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 12:21 PM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> If only there was a virus that would kill off the old people, the
> minorities, and people in states that vote different from me.
>
>
>
> Remember, “… then they came for me.”
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Brian Webster
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 12:58 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> Oh I realize that and think that just ignoring this fact and holding their
> breath is not going to turn out well. But the course of action seems to be
> to ignore it right now and kick the can down the road and don’t deal with
> it until it’s an absolute crisis.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 1:38 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> I wonder what percentage of senior politicians are boomers.  There’s a
> bunch of us around and we all plan on continuing to breathe for a very long
> time.
>
>
>
> “Politicians are really just holding their breath until all the baby
> boomers die, all the while hoping they will still have the funds to keep
> paying out the benefit checks. “
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Lewis Bergman]

I believe you are on to something. America started out this way but we have
fallen too far off the path after generations of not having to sacrifice
and risk to get what we want.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:21 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> IMHO, there is some self selecting going on here.  People who chose to
> move to another country in search of opportunity are generally desperate or
> very motivated to improve their lot.   We could use a hell of a lot more
> immigrants in this country, especially in rural areas, but that, like
> everything else in the world infringes on lent.
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have accurate
>> numbers or anything.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
>>> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>>
>>> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked
>>> the call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>>>
>>> Well..why look for the other job?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:
>>>
 So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
 first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
 places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
 to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.

 Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will
 actually agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and
 he will not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find
 people and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of
 interviewing, we do a background check now for driving problems, and then a
 no show.  I don’t understand people.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

[Lewis Bergman]

That's unfair. Only ignorant while republicans are against immigration. To
get political we need to make legal immigration faster, cheaper, and
easier. When a nation averages less birthes than 2 the economy is doomed
just as one really good reason. Not to mention needing Latinas to get
anything built in this country.

I have long been a proponent of a trade system. You give us 100,000 hard
working Latinas and we give you 100,000 worthless pieces of shit that
refuse to work of any ethnicity we can scrape up. Probably mostly white.
Being in Texas I can tell you there are worthless Latinos but they are much
harder to find. Not sure why. Maybe it is because in general they are proud
and for good reason. I have had really good employees of nearly every race,
but again, Latinos are the most common. This is especially true if the work
is difficult or outdoors.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:17 AM Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> Now I know why white republicans are so against people immigrating to the
> US, because they're afraid non-Americans will take their jobs and work
> harder for less money.
>
> Maybe white americans should start working harder for the same money
> because honestly, they're lazy. They just want to make a bunch of money,
> have great benefits, but then bullshit at the job all day while taking
> their sweet time.
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> It appears to be that way around here, too, but I don't have accurate
>> numbers or anything.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
>>> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>>>
>>> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked
>>> the call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>>>
>>> Well..why look for the other job?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM  wrote:
>>>
 So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
 first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
 places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
 to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.

 Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will
 actually agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and
 he will not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find
 people and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of
 interviewing, we do a background check now for driving problems, and then a
 no show.  I don’t understand people.
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