Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Mike Hammett 
I'd go that route, though. Not because I advocated for a few years for it with 
Tasos and JT, but because you'd have the TPA, you can easily change radios in 
the future. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Mathew Howard"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 3:33:08 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP? 


I'm pretty sure they don't make twist port adapter for the 450i. Using a TP to 
SMA adapter, with SMA to N pigtails seems like more loss and hassle... although 
it might be cheaper. 



On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Gross. Why introduce the loss and hassle? 

TPA for life. 





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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:57 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Ahh, I was assuming you'd be using the horns with N-connectors. 



On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Sam Lambie < samtaos...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Yeah, I shoulda googled it before asking the Question. The 450i has N Female 
connectors and The RF element TPA-SMA adapter is RP-SMA. So there ya have it. 
So one would need an N-Male to RP-SMA pigtail. 


On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:43 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Don't 450i APs have N connectors? 



On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie < samtaos...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym 60 degree 
horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and throughput and am 
not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. RP-SMA to N or SMA to N? 
What's the Diff? 


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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Mike Hammett 
He was also on the NASA broadcast for the Perseverance landing. 




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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching 

He posts one "tube" a month and gets 5-9 million views in hours. ( I am 
subscribed and started to watch this within an hour of it posting and it 
was already over 2.5 million views ) He's making bank. 

On 03/23/2021 11:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: 
> Ya that guy has too much time on his hands  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Robert Andrews 
He posts one "tube" a month and gets 5-9 million views in hours. ( I am 
subscribed and started to watch this within an hour of it posting and it 
was already over 2.5 million views )  He's making bank.


On 03/23/2021 11:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

Ya that guy has too much time on his hands 

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Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Sam Lambie 
Cool. Sometimes, even with the internet, it can get lonely figuring things
out by yourself. It's nice to hear what others are doing out there in the
real world.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:56 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I don't see any problem with doing what you were planning on.
>
> The other option I was talking about would be to go with the RF Elements
> Carrier Class horns (which are basically the same thing, they just have N
> connectors instead of the twist port). But it looks like using the TP horn
> with the SMA adapter (which essentially just gives you a horn withRP-SMA
> ports) is $40-50 a piece cheaper, so I'd probably just go with that. The
> only downside I see is that it's an extra part to deal with, but it
> probably isn't really any different as far as loss goes.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:46 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> What would you suggest then? Keeping in mind that I have a mix of 430/450
>> SM's on this AP... With plans soon to migrate to all 450 SM's ASAP.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:34 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure they don't make twist port adapter for the 450i. Using a
>>> TP to SMA adapter, with SMA to N pigtails seems like more loss and
>>> hassle... although it might be cheaper.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Gross.  Why introduce the loss and hassle?

 TPA for life.

 Josh Luthman
 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:57 PM Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

> Ahh, I was assuming you'd be using the horns with N-connectors.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Sam Lambie 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I shoulda googled it before asking the Question. The 450i has N
>> Female connectors and The RF element TPA-SMA adapter is RP-SMA. So there 
>> ya
>> have it. So one would need an N-Male to RP-SMA pigtail.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:43 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't 450i APs have N connectors?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym
 60 degree horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and
 throughput and am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. 
 RP-SMA
 to N or SMA to N? What's the Diff?

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Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard 
I don't see any problem with doing what you were planning on.

The other option I was talking about would be to go with the RF Elements
Carrier Class horns (which are basically the same thing, they just have N
connectors instead of the twist port). But it looks like using the TP horn
with the SMA adapter (which essentially just gives you a horn withRP-SMA
ports) is $40-50 a piece cheaper, so I'd probably just go with that. The
only downside I see is that it's an extra part to deal with, but it
probably isn't really any different as far as loss goes.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:46 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> What would you suggest then? Keeping in mind that I have a mix of 430/450
> SM's on this AP... With plans soon to migrate to all 450 SM's ASAP.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:34 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure they don't make twist port adapter for the 450i. Using a
>> TP to SMA adapter, with SMA to N pigtails seems like more loss and
>> hassle... although it might be cheaper.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gross.  Why introduce the loss and hassle?
>>>
>>> TPA for life.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:57 PM Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ahh, I was assuming you'd be using the horns with N-connectors.

 On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> Yeah, I shoulda googled it before asking the Question. The 450i has N
> Female connectors and The RF element TPA-SMA adapter is RP-SMA. So there 
> ya
> have it. So one would need an N-Male to RP-SMA pigtail.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:43 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Don't 450i APs have N connectors?
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym 60
>>> degree horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and
>>> throughput and am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. 
>>> RP-SMA
>>> to N or SMA to N? What's the Diff?
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Sam Lambie 
What would you suggest then? Keeping in mind that I have a mix of 430/450
SM's on this AP... With plans soon to migrate to all 450 SM's ASAP.


On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:34 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I'm pretty sure they don't make twist port adapter for the 450i. Using a
> TP to SMA adapter, with SMA to N pigtails seems like more loss and
> hassle... although it might be cheaper.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Gross.  Why introduce the loss and hassle?
>>
>> TPA for life.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:57 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ahh, I was assuming you'd be using the horns with N-connectors.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I shoulda googled it before asking the Question. The 450i has N
 Female connectors and The RF element TPA-SMA adapter is RP-SMA. So there ya
 have it. So one would need an N-Male to RP-SMA pigtail.

 On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:43 PM Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

> Don't 450i APs have N connectors?
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie 
> wrote:
>
>> I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym 60
>> degree horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and
>> throughput and am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. RP-SMA
>> to N or SMA to N? What's the Diff?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard 
I'm pretty sure they don't make twist port adapter for the 450i. Using a TP
to SMA adapter, with SMA to N pigtails seems like more loss and hassle...
although it might be cheaper.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Gross.  Why introduce the loss and hassle?
>
> TPA for life.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:57 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Ahh, I was assuming you'd be using the horns with N-connectors.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I shoulda googled it before asking the Question. The 450i has N
>>> Female connectors and The RF element TPA-SMA adapter is RP-SMA. So there ya
>>> have it. So one would need an N-Male to RP-SMA pigtail.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:43 PM Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Don't 450i APs have N connectors?

 On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym 60
> degree horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and
> throughput and am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. RP-SMA
> to N or SMA to N? What's the Diff?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens

2021-03-23 Thread James Howard 
If you’ve ever had bullet proof coffee and tried both salted and unsalted 
butter in it you will know there is a difference.   For anything else, unsalted 
butter is a travesty.


From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 2:22 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens

I was reading about pasta the other night, i didnt realize that old italian 
women will beat you for using a metal or marble rolling pin. apparently the 
wood pins leave tiny indents in the pasta that the sauce will adhere to better. 
I made a bunch of noodles last night with the marble one, it is smoother, dont 
know that it will matter when it hits the boil though. May do some salt free 
tonite just to see, but im still suspicious. its like the lie that unsalted 
butter is as good as salted butter. blaspheme

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
Nope.  Tastes great.
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 23, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

no salt?
I considered that, but was afraid it would just taste like wet dough

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:39 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
1 egg
1/2 egg shell of water
Work in as much flour as you can.
Roll out thin.
Roll up and slice off the noodles.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 10:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens

So, I have been making homemade chicken noodle soup through the covid thing for 
folks. The stuff in the chicken bones really does help with the aches.
A work affiliate mother got a rough cancer diagnosis and put on hospice the 
other day. End stage cancer has aches, I've watched it, aches is an 
understatement.
So I decided to make a double batch for both the person and the inbound family 
for now.
I usually do whole fryer chickens, but most of those are brined, I saw these 
young chickens with no salt brine. Older people are all on some sodium 
restriction so I figured this would be versatile.
Holy cow. I knew they were a bit bigger, but I didnt realize the meat ratio on 
young chickens was so much higher than a fryer.
I'm gonna end up with 4 to 6 gallons of soup from two chickens after broth, 
bone broth, noodles, and vegetables.
Some dumb broad sued McDonald's successfully for dumping hot coffee on her 
crotch. I feel I should be paid for no one telling me how much the soup ratio 
changes here.
Also, this story is a lame way of fishing for recipes.
Mine so far is soup
Minced garlic (you cant actually measure this)
1/2 lid dry rosemary
1/2 lid dry thyme
1/2 lid dry rubbed sage
1/4 lid dry parsley
I dont know how to correlate to fresh
Salt to diet
1 chicken
Water as needed to keep bird drowned
Boil and bone after 4 hours
Simmer meat broth 1 hour

1 head celery, 1 large onion, a lot of carrots.
1/4 stick butter
Cut onion to preference and sauteed in butter til translucent. Slice carrots as 
thick as makes you happy and toss in until they get just soft. Slice celery 
(leaves and all) as thick as pleases you. Toss in til warm.
Dump in pot of soup with more water.
Noodle
2 cups flour
2 large eggs
1tsp salt
3 tbsp milk

Fold until even
Roll til thickness pleases
Cut as wide as tickled your fancy
Cuck in boiling soup til noodles float

Eat that shit

My daughter made a bunch of penises out of the dough for her cousin when she 
had the Rona with this recipe.

My daughter's recommendation for Rona.. eat a bowl of dicks.

What's your noodle recipe?



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Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Josh Luthman 
Gross.  Why introduce the loss and hassle?

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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:57 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Ahh, I was assuming you'd be using the horns with N-connectors.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I shoulda googled it before asking the Question. The 450i has N
>> Female connectors and The RF element TPA-SMA adapter is RP-SMA. So there ya
>> have it. So one would need an N-Male to RP-SMA pigtail.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:43 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't 450i APs have N connectors?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>
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 degree horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and
 throughput and am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. RP-SMA
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Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard 
Ahh, I was assuming you'd be using the horns with N-connectors.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Yeah, I shoulda googled it before asking the Question. The 450i has N
> Female connectors and The RF element TPA-SMA adapter is RP-SMA. So there ya
> have it. So one would need an N-Male to RP-SMA pigtail.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:43 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Don't 450i APs have N connectors?
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym 60
>>> degree horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and
>>> throughput and am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. RP-SMA
>>> to N or SMA to N? What's the Diff?
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Sam Lambie 
Yeah, I shoulda googled it before asking the Question. The 450i has N
Female connectors and The RF element TPA-SMA adapter is RP-SMA. So there ya
have it. So one would need an N-Male to RP-SMA pigtail.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:43 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Don't 450i APs have N connectors?
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym 60
>> degree horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and
>> throughput and am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. RP-SMA
>> to N or SMA to N? What's the Diff?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Steve Jones 
Not defending the FBI, I think theyve turned into a political machine over
the past few decades. But they do as much as they can within the confines
of the constitution and the ACLU. the vast majority of these scams arent
even realized until after the fact. the airbnb and hotel use for mules is
slick, but not everywhere has cameras after the fact. Remember when an area
code and prefix told you where the person calling was from? it wasnt the
FBI that wanted the convenience of number portability. Thats probably one
of the biggest tools, caller ID spoofing, that gives these knuckleheads
success in the scams. We outsourced so much over the last decades that we
are more trusting of foreign accents on cold calls. blaming the fbi is like
that meme of the person putting the stick in their own bike wheel...
Im hoping chuck schumer can get a bill passed banning crime so this can all
be squared away


On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:34 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> True, but they could at least try to make it look like they're making some
> attempt to do something about the problem.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:29 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> FBI cant "hack" into the scammers networks and monitor them as easily as
>> some webdude can, red tape wise. Can you imagine if the gubmint was the
>> ones doing that? ACLU would be suing them on behalf of foreign nationals.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am surprised a couple of internet guys can do what we expect the FBI
>>> to do.  Silly me...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> This makes me smile
>>> Im curious about this guys long term safety though. I worked at a motel
>>> for an Indian for a while, his money lender Sam would show up periodically,
>>> he looked like a bollywood version of guido.  but my boss was always scared
>>> of him and he always brought this bollywood gorilla looking guy with him. I
>>> kind of expected to see him beat my boss with a pipe to some peppy dance
>>> music..
>>>
>>> Those mules are complicit, even more so than the guys on the phone in my
>>> opinion because they are the first link in the stateside chain that could
>>> stop it, and they know full well its probably some old lady. Peel all their
>>> skin off I say.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Saw that on Rober's youtube channel a few days ago. The article
 describes it as a "simple" scam, but the explanation was not so simple to
 me. A lot of moving parts, and I'm undecided on the complicity of the
 "mules".


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Re: [AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard 
Don't 450i APs have N connectors?

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym 60
> degree horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and
> throughput and am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. RP-SMA
> to N or SMA to N? What's the Diff?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard 
True, but they could at least try to make it look like they're making some
attempt to do something about the problem.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:29 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> FBI cant "hack" into the scammers networks and monitor them as easily as
> some webdude can, red tape wise. Can you imagine if the gubmint was the
> ones doing that? ACLU would be suing them on behalf of foreign nationals.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I am surprised a couple of internet guys can do what we expect the FBI to
>> do.  Silly me...
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> This makes me smile
>> Im curious about this guys long term safety though. I worked at a motel
>> for an Indian for a while, his money lender Sam would show up periodically,
>> he looked like a bollywood version of guido.  but my boss was always scared
>> of him and he always brought this bollywood gorilla looking guy with him. I
>> kind of expected to see him beat my boss with a pipe to some peppy dance
>> music..
>>
>> Those mules are complicit, even more so than the guys on the phone in my
>> opinion because they are the first link in the stateside chain that could
>> stop it, and they know full well its probably some old lady. Peel all their
>> skin off I say.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> Saw that on Rober's youtube channel a few days ago. The article
>>> describes it as a "simple" scam, but the explanation was not so simple to
>>> me. A lot of moving parts, and I'm undecided on the complicity of the
>>> "mules".
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 3/23/2021 9:45 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://grahamcluley.com/fighting-back-against-phone-scammers-with-glitter-bombs/
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[AFMUG] RPSMA or SMA for 450i AP?

2021-03-23 Thread Sam Lambie 
I am wanting to convert from 90 degree sectors to RF element asym 60 degree
horns on my AP and add a second AP to increase coverage and throughput and
am not sure what type of SMA to N connector I need. RP-SMA to N or SMA to
N? What's the Diff?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Steve Jones 
FBI cant "hack" into the scammers networks and monitor them as easily as
some webdude can, red tape wise. Can you imagine if the gubmint was the
ones doing that? ACLU would be suing them on behalf of foreign nationals.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I am surprised a couple of internet guys can do what we expect the FBI to
> do.  Silly me...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 23, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> 
> This makes me smile
> Im curious about this guys long term safety though. I worked at a motel
> for an Indian for a while, his money lender Sam would show up periodically,
> he looked like a bollywood version of guido.  but my boss was always scared
> of him and he always brought this bollywood gorilla looking guy with him. I
> kind of expected to see him beat my boss with a pipe to some peppy dance
> music..
>
> Those mules are complicit, even more so than the guys on the phone in my
> opinion because they are the first link in the stateside chain that could
> stop it, and they know full well its probably some old lady. Peel all their
> skin off I say.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Saw that on Rober's youtube channel a few days ago. The article describes
>> it as a "simple" scam, but the explanation was not so simple to me. A lot
>> of moving parts, and I'm undecided on the complicity of the "mules".
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 3/23/2021 9:45 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://grahamcluley.com/fighting-back-against-phone-scammers-with-glitter-bombs/
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens

2021-03-23 Thread Steve Jones 
I was reading about pasta the other night, i didnt realize that old italian
women will beat you for using a metal or marble rolling pin. apparently the
wood pins leave tiny indents in the pasta that the sauce will adhere to
better. I made a bunch of noodles last night with the marble one, it is
smoother, dont know that it will matter when it hits the boil though. May
do some salt free tonite just to see, but im still suspicious. its like the
lie that unsalted butter is as good as salted butter. blaspheme

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Nope.  Tastes great.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 23, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> 
> no salt?
> I considered that, but was afraid it would just taste like wet dough
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:39 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> 1 egg
>> 1/2 egg shell of water
>> Work in as much flour as you can.
>> Roll out thin.
>> Roll up and slice off the noodles.
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 21, 2021 10:48 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens
>>
>> So, I have been making homemade chicken noodle soup through the covid
>> thing for folks. The stuff in the chicken bones really does help with the
>> aches.
>> A work affiliate mother got a rough cancer diagnosis and put on hospice
>> the other day. End stage cancer has aches, I've watched it, aches is an
>> understatement.
>> So I decided to make a double batch for both the person and the inbound
>> family for now.
>> I usually do whole fryer chickens, but most of those are brined, I saw
>> these young chickens with no salt brine. Older people are all on some
>> sodium restriction so I figured this would be versatile.
>> Holy cow. I knew they were a bit bigger, but I didnt realize the meat
>> ratio on young chickens was so much higher than a fryer.
>> I'm gonna end up with 4 to 6 gallons of soup from two chickens after
>> broth, bone broth, noodles, and vegetables.
>> Some dumb broad sued McDonald's successfully for dumping hot coffee on
>> her crotch. I feel I should be paid for no one telling me how much the soup
>> ratio changes here.
>> Also, this story is a lame way of fishing for recipes.
>> Mine so far is soup
>> Minced garlic (you cant actually measure this)
>> 1/2 lid dry rosemary
>> 1/2 lid dry thyme
>> 1/2 lid dry rubbed sage
>> 1/4 lid dry parsley
>> I dont know how to correlate to fresh
>> Salt to diet
>> 1 chicken
>> Water as needed to keep bird drowned
>> Boil and bone after 4 hours
>> Simmer meat broth 1 hour
>>
>> 1 head celery, 1 large onion, a lot of carrots.
>> 1/4 stick butter
>> Cut onion to preference and sauteed in butter til translucent. Slice
>> carrots as thick as makes you happy and toss in until they get just soft.
>> Slice celery (leaves and all) as thick as pleases you. Toss in til warm.
>> Dump in pot of soup with more water.
>> Noodle
>> 2 cups flour
>> 2 large eggs
>> 1tsp salt
>> 3 tbsp milk
>>
>> Fold until even
>> Roll til thickness pleases
>> Cut as wide as tickled your fancy
>> Cuck in boiling soup til noodles float
>>
>> Eat that shit
>>
>> My daughter made a bunch of penises out of the dough for her cousin when
>> she had the Rona with this recipe.
>>
>> My daughter's recommendation for Rona.. eat a bowl of dicks.
>>
>> What's your noodle recipe?
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  
He used to work for a big tech company in the valley. I think he
  did a one-off project for youtube & had too much fun. It has
  since blossomed into his main gig.


bp

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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard 
The FBI can't be bothered with such things...

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I am surprised a couple of internet guys can do what we expect the FBI to
> do.  Silly me...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 23, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> 
> This makes me smile
> Im curious about this guys long term safety though. I worked at a motel
> for an Indian for a while, his money lender Sam would show up periodically,
> he looked like a bollywood version of guido.  but my boss was always scared
> of him and he always brought this bollywood gorilla looking guy with him. I
> kind of expected to see him beat my boss with a pipe to some peppy dance
> music..
>
> Those mules are complicit, even more so than the guys on the phone in my
> opinion because they are the first link in the stateside chain that could
> stop it, and they know full well its probably some old lady. Peel all their
> skin off I say.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Saw that on Rober's youtube channel a few days ago. The article describes
>> it as a "simple" scam, but the explanation was not so simple to me. A lot
>> of moving parts, and I'm undecided on the complicity of the "mules".
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 3/23/2021 9:45 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
I am surprised a couple of internet guys can do what we expect the FBI to do.  
Silly me...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> This makes me smile
> Im curious about this guys long term safety though. I worked at a motel for 
> an Indian for a while, his money lender Sam would show up periodically, he 
> looked like a bollywood version of guido.  but my boss was always scared of 
> him and he always brought this bollywood gorilla looking guy with him. I kind 
> of expected to see him beat my boss with a pipe to some peppy dance music..
> 
> Those mules are complicit, even more so than the guys on the phone in my 
> opinion because they are the first link in the stateside chain that could 
> stop it, and they know full well its probably some old lady. Peel all their 
> skin off I say.
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince  wrote:
>> Saw that on Rober's youtube channel a few days ago. The article describes it 
>> as a "simple" scam, but the explanation was not so simple to me. A lot of 
>> moving parts, and I'm undecided on the complicity of the "mules".
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bp
>> 
>> On 3/23/2021 9:45 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens

2021-03-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
Nope.  Tastes great.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> no salt?
> I considered that, but was afraid it would just taste like wet dough
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:39 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>> 1 egg
>> 1/2 egg shell of water
>> Work in as much flour as you can.
>> Roll out thin.
>> Roll up and slice off the noodles. 
>>  
>> From: Steve Jones
>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 10:48 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens
>>  
>> So, I have been making homemade chicken noodle soup through the covid thing 
>> for folks. The stuff in the chicken bones really does help with the aches. 
>> A work affiliate mother got a rough cancer diagnosis and put on hospice the 
>> other day. End stage cancer has aches, I've watched it, aches is an 
>> understatement.
>> So I decided to make a double batch for both the person and the inbound 
>> family for now.
>> I usually do whole fryer chickens, but most of those are brined, I saw these 
>> young chickens with no salt brine. Older people are all on some sodium 
>> restriction so I figured this would be versatile.
>> Holy cow. I knew they were a bit bigger, but I didnt realize the meat ratio 
>> on young chickens was so much higher than a fryer.
>> I'm gonna end up with 4 to 6 gallons of soup from two chickens after broth, 
>> bone broth, noodles, and vegetables.
>> Some dumb broad sued McDonald's successfully for dumping hot coffee on her 
>> crotch. I feel I should be paid for no one telling me how much the soup 
>> ratio changes here.
>> Also, this story is a lame way of fishing for recipes.
>> Mine so far is soup
>> Minced garlic (you cant actually measure this)
>> 1/2 lid dry rosemary
>> 1/2 lid dry thyme
>> 1/2 lid dry rubbed sage
>> 1/4 lid dry parsley
>> I dont know how to correlate to fresh
>> Salt to diet
>> 1 chicken
>> Water as needed to keep bird drowned
>> Boil and bone after 4 hours
>> Simmer meat broth 1 hour
>>  
>> 1 head celery, 1 large onion, a lot of carrots.
>> 1/4 stick butter
>> Cut onion to preference and sauteed in butter til translucent. Slice carrots 
>> as thick as makes you happy and toss in until they get just soft. Slice 
>> celery (leaves and all) as thick as pleases you. Toss in til warm.
>> Dump in pot of soup with more water.
>> Noodle
>> 2 cups flour
>> 2 large eggs
>> 1tsp salt
>> 3 tbsp milk
>>  
>> Fold until even
>> Roll til thickness pleases
>> Cut as wide as tickled your fancy
>> Cuck in boiling soup til noodles float
>>  
>> Eat that shit
>>  
>> My daughter made a bunch of penises out of the dough for her cousin when she 
>> had the Rona with this recipe.
>>  
>> My daughter's recommendation for Rona.. eat a bowl of dicks.
>>  
>> What's your noodle recipe?
>>  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Dennis Burgess 
Ya that guy has too much time on his hands 


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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Steve Jones 
This makes me smile
Im curious about this guys long term safety though. I worked at a motel for
an Indian for a while, his money lender Sam would show up periodically, he
looked like a bollywood version of guido.  but my boss was always scared of
him and he always brought this bollywood gorilla looking guy with him. I
kind of expected to see him beat my boss with a pipe to some peppy dance
music..

Those mules are complicit, even more so than the guys on the phone in my
opinion because they are the first link in the stateside chain that could
stop it, and they know full well its probably some old lady. Peel all their
skin off I say.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Saw that on Rober's youtube channel a few days ago. The article describes
> it as a "simple" scam, but the explanation was not so simple to me. A lot
> of moving parts, and I'm undecided on the complicity of the "mules".
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 3/23/2021 9:45 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
>
> https://grahamcluley.com/fighting-back-against-phone-scammers-with-glitter-bombs/
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Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues

2021-03-23 Thread Seth Mattinen 

On 3/22/21 4:31 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
That cable you put on the floor just became your responsibility in their 
eyes. I would have put theirs back in place. May have sold them a new on 
on the spot but made them plug it in.

This also means their IT didnt do any testing locally with the employee.




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future problems.


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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 10G switch

2021-03-23 Thread Nate Burke 
I have several of the 317's deployed.  I have not had any issues with 
them.  Running in ROS mode, but only doing bridge/vlans  They hand off 
to a CCR1009 SFP+ for all routing.  The Throughput specs are just 
slightly lower with the 309, but is that just because it has fewer ports 
to move the traffic?


On 3/23/2021 11:45 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
we just got in some of the 309s for this. I dont know jack about 
mikrotik switches, but it seems it will suit the purpose for now. it 
will connect to a 4011 sfp+ port for at the routing magic.


Do you like the 317? the 309 is just its little brother isnt it?

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:31 AM Nate Burke > wrote:


I've been using Edgepoint S16 with great success for several
years, but
they only have 2 10G SFP Ports on them.  More of our backhaul radios
have 10G optics, and the EPMP radios have 1G fiber, so I'm looking
for
an outdoor Multiport SFP+ swtich.  Are there any options out there
similar to the Edgepoint with more SFP+ ports?

The Mikrotik Fiberbox only has 5 1G ports and I've had a lot of
issues
with them with packetloss and High CPU, and the Mikrotik Netpower 16P
only has 2 SFP+ Ports just like the edgepoint.

At most sites I can run new fiber cables all the way down to the
ground
and plug them into a CRS317-1G-16S+ in my cabinet.  But a couple
sites
we want to upgrade this year, new cables are challenging to
install.  We
already have Fiber/DC at the top running the edgepoint.  Just need
a way
to get more fiber ports at the top to connect to the radios. I'm
thinking about putting a CRS309-1G-8S+IN in and outdoor enclosure, it
looks like it can power via POE from the edgepoint.

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 10G switch

2021-03-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini 
Inscape Data has a this
https://www.inscapedata.com/Outdoor-LPS6844-PoE-Swtich.htm

Radwin has an indoor switch that looks robust enough for outdoor mounting, good 
price too.
https://www.radwin.com/idu-s-layer-2-indoor-switch/



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From: AF  on behalf of Nate Burke 
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 11:31 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor 10G switch
I've been using Edgepoint S16 with great success for several years, but
they only have 2 10G SFP Ports on them. More of our backhaul radios
have 10G optics, and the EPMP radios have 1G fiber, so I'm looking for
an outdoor Multiport SFP+ swtich. Are there any options out there
similar to the Edgepoint with more SFP+ ports?

The Mikrotik Fiberbox only has 5 1G ports and I've had a lot of issues
with them with packetloss and High CPU, and the Mikrotik Netpower 16P
only has 2 SFP+ Ports just like the edgepoint.

At most sites I can run new fiber cables all the way down to the ground
and plug them into a CRS317-1G-16S+ in my cabinet. But a couple sites
we want to upgrade this year, new cables are challenging to install. We
already have Fiber/DC at the top running the edgepoint. Just need a way
to get more fiber ports at the top to connect to the radios. I'm
thinking about putting a CRS309-1G-8S+IN in and outdoor enclosure, it
looks like it can power via POE from the edgepoint.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  
Saw that on Rober's youtube channel a few days ago. The article
  describes it as a "simple" scam, but the explanation was not so
  simple to me. A lot of moving parts, and I'm undecided on the
  complicity of the "mules".


bp

On 3/23/2021 9:45 AM, Chuck McCown via
  AF wrote:


  
  

  https://grahamcluley.com/fighting-back-against-phone-scammers-with-glitter-bombs/

  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 10G switch

2021-03-23 Thread Adam Moffett 

If you find that Unicorn, let me know.

I've decided next tower redux is going to have a 24F or 48F cable going 
up to a Commscope OFDC closure with SC connectors.  Then hardened 
jumpers to the equipment.  My reasoning is that it opens the doors to 
having the switch on the ground, which means every switch on the market 
is an option instead of only a few hardened switches. And there could 
still be an Edgepoint up there for PoE devices.


On 3/23/2021 11:29 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
I've been using Edgepoint S16 with great success for several years, 
but they only have 2 10G SFP Ports on them.  More of our backhaul 
radios have 10G optics, and the EPMP radios have 1G fiber, so I'm 
looking for an outdoor Multiport SFP+ swtich.  Are there any options 
out there similar to the Edgepoint with more SFP+ ports?


The Mikrotik Fiberbox only has 5 1G ports and I've had a lot of issues 
with them with packetloss and High CPU, and the Mikrotik Netpower 16P 
only has 2 SFP+ Ports just like the edgepoint.


At most sites I can run new fiber cables all the way down to the 
ground and plug them into a CRS317-1G-16S+ in my cabinet.  But a 
couple sites we want to upgrade this year, new cables are challenging 
to install.  We already have Fiber/DC at the top running the 
edgepoint.  Just need a way to get more fiber ports at the top to 
connect to the radios.  I'm thinking about putting a CRS309-1G-8S+IN 
in and outdoor enclosure, it looks like it can power via POE from the 
edgepoint.




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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 10G switch

2021-03-23 Thread Steve Jones 
we just got in some of the 309s for this. I dont know jack about mikrotik
switches, but it seems it will suit the purpose for now. it will connect to
a 4011 sfp+ port for at the routing magic.

Do you like the 317? the 309 is just its little brother isnt it?

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:31 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I've been using Edgepoint S16 with great success for several years, but
> they only have 2 10G SFP Ports on them.  More of our backhaul radios
> have 10G optics, and the EPMP radios have 1G fiber, so I'm looking for
> an outdoor Multiport SFP+ swtich.  Are there any options out there
> similar to the Edgepoint with more SFP+ ports?
>
> The Mikrotik Fiberbox only has 5 1G ports and I've had a lot of issues
> with them with packetloss and High CPU, and the Mikrotik Netpower 16P
> only has 2 SFP+ Ports just like the edgepoint.
>
> At most sites I can run new fiber cables all the way down to the ground
> and plug them into a CRS317-1G-16S+ in my cabinet.  But a couple sites
> we want to upgrade this year, new cables are challenging to install.  We
> already have Fiber/DC at the top running the edgepoint.  Just need a way
> to get more fiber ports at the top to connect to the radios.  I'm
> thinking about putting a CRS309-1G-8S+IN in and outdoor enclosure, it
> looks like it can power via POE from the edgepoint.
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[AFMUG] OT well worth watching

2021-03-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens

2021-03-23 Thread Steve Jones 
no salt?
I considered that, but was afraid it would just taste like wet dough

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:39 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> 1 egg
> 1/2 egg shell of water
> Work in as much flour as you can.
> Roll out thin.
> Roll up and slice off the noodles.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 21, 2021 10:48 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens
>
> So, I have been making homemade chicken noodle soup through the covid
> thing for folks. The stuff in the chicken bones really does help with the
> aches.
> A work affiliate mother got a rough cancer diagnosis and put on hospice
> the other day. End stage cancer has aches, I've watched it, aches is an
> understatement.
> So I decided to make a double batch for both the person and the inbound
> family for now.
> I usually do whole fryer chickens, but most of those are brined, I saw
> these young chickens with no salt brine. Older people are all on some
> sodium restriction so I figured this would be versatile.
> Holy cow. I knew they were a bit bigger, but I didnt realize the meat
> ratio on young chickens was so much higher than a fryer.
> I'm gonna end up with 4 to 6 gallons of soup from two chickens after
> broth, bone broth, noodles, and vegetables.
> Some dumb broad sued McDonald's successfully for dumping hot coffee on her
> crotch. I feel I should be paid for no one telling me how much the soup
> ratio changes here.
> Also, this story is a lame way of fishing for recipes.
> Mine so far is soup
> Minced garlic (you cant actually measure this)
> 1/2 lid dry rosemary
> 1/2 lid dry thyme
> 1/2 lid dry rubbed sage
> 1/4 lid dry parsley
> I dont know how to correlate to fresh
> Salt to diet
> 1 chicken
> Water as needed to keep bird drowned
> Boil and bone after 4 hours
> Simmer meat broth 1 hour
>
> 1 head celery, 1 large onion, a lot of carrots.
> 1/4 stick butter
> Cut onion to preference and sauteed in butter til translucent. Slice
> carrots as thick as makes you happy and toss in until they get just soft.
> Slice celery (leaves and all) as thick as pleases you. Toss in til warm.
> Dump in pot of soup with more water.
> Noodle
> 2 cups flour
> 2 large eggs
> 1tsp salt
> 3 tbsp milk
>
> Fold until even
> Roll til thickness pleases
> Cut as wide as tickled your fancy
> Cuck in boiling soup til noodles float
>
> Eat that shit
>
> My daughter made a bunch of penises out of the dough for her cousin when
> she had the Rona with this recipe.
>
> My daughter's recommendation for Rona.. eat a bowl of dicks.
>
> What's your noodle recipe?
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens

2021-03-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
1 egg
1/2 egg shell of water
Work in as much flour as you can.
Roll out thin.
Roll up and slice off the noodles.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 10:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: fryers vs young chickens

So, I have been making homemade chicken noodle soup through the covid thing for 
folks. The stuff in the chicken bones really does help with the aches.  
A work affiliate mother got a rough cancer diagnosis and put on hospice the 
other day. End stage cancer has aches, I've watched it, aches is an 
understatement.
So I decided to make a double batch for both the person and the inbound family 
for now.
I usually do whole fryer chickens, but most of those are brined, I saw these 
young chickens with no salt brine. Older people are all on some sodium 
restriction so I figured this would be versatile.
Holy cow. I knew they were a bit bigger, but I didnt realize the meat ratio on 
young chickens was so much higher than a fryer.
I'm gonna end up with 4 to 6 gallons of soup from two chickens after broth, 
bone broth, noodles, and vegetables.
Some dumb broad sued McDonald's successfully for dumping hot coffee on her 
crotch. I feel I should be paid for no one telling me how much the soup ratio 
changes here.
Also, this story is a lame way of fishing for recipes.
Mine so far is soup
Minced garlic (you cant actually measure this)
1/2 lid dry rosemary
1/2 lid dry thyme
1/2 lid dry rubbed sage
1/4 lid dry parsley
I dont know how to correlate to fresh
Salt to diet 
1 chicken
Water as needed to keep bird drowned 
Boil and bone after 4 hours
Simmer meat broth 1 hour

1 head celery, 1 large onion, a lot of carrots.
1/4 stick butter
Cut onion to preference and sauteed in butter til translucent. Slice carrots as 
thick as makes you happy and toss in until they get just soft. Slice celery 
(leaves and all) as thick as pleases you. Toss in til warm.
Dump in pot of soup with more water.
Noodle
2 cups flour
2 large eggs
1tsp salt
3 tbsp milk

Fold until even
Roll til thickness pleases
Cut as wide as tickled your fancy
Cuck in boiling soup til noodles float

Eat that shit

My daughter made a bunch of penises out of the dough for her cousin when she 
had the Rona with this recipe.

My daughter's recommendation for Rona.. eat a bowl of dicks.

What's your noodle recipe?





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[AFMUG] Outdoor 10G switch

2021-03-23 Thread Nate Burke 
I've been using Edgepoint S16 with great success for several years, but 
they only have 2 10G SFP Ports on them.  More of our backhaul radios 
have 10G optics, and the EPMP radios have 1G fiber, so I'm looking for 
an outdoor Multiport SFP+ swtich.  Are there any options out there 
similar to the Edgepoint with more SFP+ ports?


The Mikrotik Fiberbox only has 5 1G ports and I've had a lot of issues 
with them with packetloss and High CPU, and the Mikrotik Netpower 16P 
only has 2 SFP+ Ports just like the edgepoint.


At most sites I can run new fiber cables all the way down to the ground 
and plug them into a CRS317-1G-16S+ in my cabinet.  But a couple sites 
we want to upgrade this year, new cables are challenging to install.  We 
already have Fiber/DC at the top running the edgepoint.  Just need a way 
to get more fiber ports at the top to connect to the radios.  I'm 
thinking about putting a CRS309-1G-8S+IN in and outdoor enclosure, it 
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