Re: [AFMUG] now that's a big antenna

[Ken Hohhof]

On a related note, Voyager 1 is talking to us again.  Yay, VGER!

https://gizmodo.com/nasa-voyager-probe-making-sense-months-gibberish-1851427197

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 9:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] now that's a big antenna

 

thats what we install at everybodies house

 

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

https://spectrum.ieee.org/apollo-era-antenna-voyager-2

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Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

[Nate Burke]

I've had a 5.2 FSK Connection on my roof pointing to a tower 2 miles 
away for the last 20 years.  When the guys were on my roof last fall 
working on another radio, they said that there's a perfect hole to the 
tower through all the trees that have grown up in the neighborhood.  
Like they're growing around the path.


On 4/22/2024 3:35 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:


oops, my bad.  33cm is about 13 inches.  Still too long for juniper 
needles


On 4/22/24 13:12, Jan-GAMs wrote:


I vote for the neighbor's dog piss.

BTW the wavelength for 900Mhz is 33cm, (about a yard) is still too 
long for a juniper needle.  The photo looks like two trees planted 
close together, one dead, other dying.  And another BTW, if 900Mhz 
were fatal, you'd be long dead as most cell phones operate near that 
frequency, especially AT Verizon, Sprint was 850, don't know 
offhand who is on that now.  Many in-house cordless phones used 
900Mhz, too.  You should have died decades ago, if 900Mhz was fatal.  
Where's your brain-tumor now?


On 4/20/24 09:16, David Hannum wrote:
I know that needles really absorb 900mhz, but could this happen?  I 
can't see it at legal ERIP levels?  What do you engineers say?


Dave



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Re: [AFMUG] now that's a big antenna

[Steve Jones]

thats what we install at everybodies house

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> https://spectrum.ieee.org/apollo-era-antenna-voyager-2
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Re: [AFMUG] ASN check

[Steve Jones]

Yeah, apparently they moved our BGP to a new switch and had a syntax error.
We never noticed because our backup external GRE flowed bypass traffic. I
assume enough was getting out to wherever our upstreams meet there was
announcement.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:22 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

>
> https://radar.qrator.net/as/40121/ipv4/neighbors/providers?prefix-history=30036
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>
> https://stat.ripe.net/special/bgplay#bgplay_fetch.resource=142.202.109.0_fetch.ignoreReannouncements=false_fetch.starttime=1712823872_fetch.endtime=1713342272_fetch.rrcs=11,14_fetch.instant=null_fetch.type=bgp
>
>
> It looks like Mediacom dropped at 2024-04-12 05:18:55 UTC. Well, "dropped"
> it looks like at least some IPs through some peers are reachable via
> Mediacom.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
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> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
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> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 16, 2024 2:07:42 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ASN check
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> 40121
> can somebody else verify this is only showing one peer, im no looking
> glass master, but it appears one of our peers stopped announcing on the 12th
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Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

[Jan-GAMs]

oops, my bad.  33cm is about 13 inches.  Still too long for juniper needles

On 4/22/24 13:12, Jan-GAMs wrote:


I vote for the neighbor's dog piss.

BTW the wavelength for 900Mhz is 33cm, (about a yard) is still too 
long for a juniper needle.  The photo looks like two trees planted 
close together, one dead, other dying.  And another BTW, if 900Mhz 
were fatal, you'd be long dead as most cell phones operate near that 
frequency, especially AT  Verizon, Sprint was 850, don't know 
offhand who is on that now.  Many in-house cordless phones used 
900Mhz, too.  You should have died decades ago, if 900Mhz was fatal.  
Where's your brain-tumor now?


On 4/20/24 09:16, David Hannum wrote:
I know that needles really absorb 900mhz, but could this happen?  I 
can't see it at legal ERIP levels?  What do you engineers say?


Dave

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Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

[Jan-GAMs]

I vote for the neighbor's dog piss.

BTW the wavelength for 900Mhz is 33cm, (about a yard) is still too long 
for a juniper needle.  The photo looks like two trees planted close 
together, one dead, other dying.  And another BTW, if 900Mhz were fatal, 
you'd be long dead as most cell phones operate near that frequency, 
especially AT  Verizon, Sprint was 850, don't know offhand who is on 
that now.  Many in-house cordless phones used 900Mhz, too.  You should 
have died decades ago, if 900Mhz was fatal.  Where's your brain-tumor now?


On 4/20/24 09:16, David Hannum wrote:
I know that needles really absorb 900mhz, but could this happen?  I 
can't see it at legal ERIP levels?  What do you engineers say?


Dave
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Re: [AFMUG] Bard

[dmmoffett]

Or in Klingon:
taH pagh taHbe'

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 11:44 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] Bard

 

(ii) b + ! (ii) b

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Bard

[Ken Hohhof]

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
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Subject: [AFMUG] Bard

 

(ii) b + ! (ii) b

 

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[AFMUG] Bard

[Chuck McCown via AF]

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Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

[dmmoffett]

Nothing will ever convince these types.  It would be simple for them to do an 
experiment with a couple of potted plants and whatever transmitter they’re 
afraid of, but if they were into things like facts and data they wouldn’t be 
down this road to begin with.  Facebook and Twitter posts are the only data 
input they want.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Tim Hardy
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 7:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

 

So, more likely one of these   
https://extension.psu.edu/juniper-diseases - these idiots need to spray their 
plants but it's always easier to blame it on everything else.

 

On Apr 20, 2024, at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

 

I would go with the vent as the number one suspect.  

 

The antenna is probably pretty isotropic.  You would see more of a graduated 
spherical damage I would think.  

 

From: Ken Hohhof

Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 10:42 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

 

No, although sometimes I wish it could happen, so we could clear out the RF 
path without a chainsaw.

 

I look at the photo and see a vent, some garbage cans, the electrical service 
entrance, some suspicious white stuff on the ground, but it has to be the smart 
meter that is killing the evergreen.  Even though the 900 MHz chip probably 
only transmits when polled.  And it couldn’t possibly be the cold wind or dogs 
peeing on the evergreen or they didn’t water it during a drought.

 

Probably this person posted the photo while holding their phone half an inch 
from their brain.  Remember the viral photo of cellphones making popcorn pop?  
(fake of course)

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of David Hannum
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 11:17 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

 

I know that needles really absorb 900mhz, but could this happen?  I can't see 
it at legal ERIP levels?  What do you engineers say?

 

Dave

 


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Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

[dmmoffett]

Yeah the vent.  Something similar happened to our boxwood bushes when the hot 
water heater vent was moved from the roof to a sidewall.  It would come on for 
40 minutes or so in the morning when people were taking showers, but that’s all 
it took.

 

It looks like a kitchen vent, but if they cook something most days, and they’re 
blowing warm air out for an hour or so that would do it.

If they live on ramen noodles and Spaghetti O’s then I’d look for a different 
culprit.  So I guess it depends if this a family home where they cook family 
meals or some college boys’ flop house.  If it’s the second one, then maybe 
that corner by the bush is where someone goes to puke up a gut full of 
Milwaukee’s Best every other night.

 

Or the evil radio waves I guess.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 3:28 PM
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Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

 

I would go with the vent as the number one suspect.  

 

The antenna is probably pretty isotropic.  You would see more of a graduated 
spherical damage I would think.  

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 10:42 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

 

No, although sometimes I wish it could happen, so we could clear out the RF 
path without a chainsaw.

 

I look at the photo and see a vent, some garbage cans, the electrical service 
entrance, some suspicious white stuff on the ground, but it has to be the smart 
meter that is killing the evergreen.  Even though the 900 MHz chip probably 
only transmits when polled.  And it couldn’t possibly be the cold wind or dogs 
peeing on the evergreen or they didn’t water it during a drought.

 

Probably this person posted the photo while holding their phone half an inch 
from their brain.  Remember the viral photo of cellphones making popcorn pop?  
(fake of course)

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of David Hannum
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 11:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

 

I know that needles really absorb 900mhz, but could this happen?  I can't see 
it at legal ERIP levels?  What do you engineers say?

 

Dave

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