Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
I am the Martian ambassador. We come in peace. From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 11:09 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI tools Isn't there something in "The Art of War" about getting your foe to underestimate you? On 6/3/24 5:31 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I might give the free thing a whirl. I'm a doubter on these things. I've gotten to the bottom of enough weird bugs to find that some pretty specific sets of circumstances and interactions between the idiosyncrasies of different systems can result in weird behaviors. I just mean in general, I don't know anything about AI. My point is there will be bugs, and you don't know how it will manifest. I have fiddled with Chat GPT and asking it technical questions. Ask it about a topic you know a lot about and you'll find that it can give answers that are incredibly accurate and precise, or pretty good but missing important context, or it can be completely, embarrassingly wrong. Like "how could you get that so wrong you stupid machine? You'll never manage to defeat humanity and take over the world if you're going to make blunders like this." On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
Isn't there something in "The Art of War" about getting your foe to underestimate you? On 6/3/24 5:31 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I might give the free thing a whirl. I'm a doubter on these things. I've gotten to the bottom of enough weird bugs to find that some pretty specific sets of circumstances and interactions between the idiosyncrasies of different systems can result in weird behaviors. I just mean in general, I don't know anything about AI. My point is there will be bugs, and you don't know how it will manifest. I have fiddled with Chat GPT and asking it technical questions. Ask it about a topic you know a lot about and you'll find that it can give answers that are incredibly accurate and precise, or pretty good but missing important context, or it can be completely, embarrassingly wrong. Like "how could you get that so wrong you stupid machine? You'll never manage to defeat humanity and take over the world if you're going to make blunders like this." On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
Lol Any bias of course comes from the web content it’s digesting. Sooner or later it’ll spew out some Neo Nazi talking points it found on Reddit. I heard with Chat GPT they sanitize the list of inputs, but really it’s only a matter of time before it starts learning that stuff. Then, of course it will eventually find some context where substituting “humans” for “Jews” makes sense, and then Skynet will be born. And since human operators of Predator drones have an incredibly high rate of PTSD it will make a lot of sense to put an AI in charge of them instead. Combine the two things and now we’re screwed. The robo-apocalypse is coming, man. Hide your wife and kids. Find yourself a nice analog Bofors L/60 autocannon to defend your stronghold from drone strikes. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, June 03, 2024 11:19 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI tools chatgpt is great for technical stuff, it writes all mysql queries for me and has written a couple contracts. for customer interaction it's still too obvious, and irritating that most go through 2 to 3 AI layers before agent actually gets you to a human. I have yet to find one without a left bias, not outwardly problematic til a customer is having a problem accessing a gun site and it spouts agenda. On Mon, Jun 3, 2024, 9:02 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: Seems like all AI get a lot of their training on Reddit. Pros and cons to that. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 7:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI tools I just gave Perplexity (free version) two questions where I know how GPT responded. "How do I configure OSPF export filters on Arista EOS?" This answer was accurate, in fact it was more concise than what I got from chat GPT. "How do you configure an XGS-PON interface on the Nokia ISAM 7360?" This answer was wrong. Now, to be fair, Nokia has a lot of products, and I think what it gave me was the correct commands for a different Nokia product. It's the right sort of syntax you'd see on a Lucent/Alcatel/Nokia product, it's just wrong for the ISAM 7360. Another difference between those questions is Arista's documentation is freely available on the web whereas Nokia's documentation requires an account and login to access. The reason I'd look for help on Nokia is specifically because the commands can vary, and the documentation is too much to digest for a mere human. The doc package for the ISAM 7360 is >20,000 pages. That's not counting release notes, white papers, forum posts, and technical notes. So this is the exact sort of thing I really would like help researching and it gave me a wrong answer on the first test. I followed up with "These instructions may be for a different Nokia product. Are you sure they will work on 7360 ISAM?" It provided several citations and concluded, "therefore the instructions I provided should be applicable to the 7360." The first citation is a reddit post about configuring the ports on an NT (ethernet) card. It apparently learned the naming convention of PON ports from another source and adapted the instructions on reddit using the NT card command syntax and inserting the PON port names. That's an impressive bit of learning and correlating sources, and it's the sort of thing a human might try while learning the platform. It's still wrong though. -Adam On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
“How can I use an AI resource like Perplexity to assist in my job as a Network Engineer?” It lists a number of things about network analytics, automation, prediction of issues, etc. “Can Perplexity do any of the things suggested in the previous answer?” A long winded answer saying in essence, “No, not really.” At least honesty isn’t an issue….yet. Wait until marketing finds out that the language model is not an enthusiastic advocate for the product. Then they’ll find a way to make it give a slimy sales pitch. -Adam From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2024 11:12 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: RE: [AFMUG] AI tools Jesus Christ. I paid the $20 and uploaded a bunch of Nokia manuals and somehow the answer to “how to configure an XGS-PON port” got even more wrong. It has invented sequences of commands that definitely do not exist on this platform and are not in the manuals I provided. Since I paid $20 I experimented with a number of other questions. It’s doing ok with general questions about concepts and capabilities, but any question about HOW to do something is either ridiculously wrong or dangerously wrong. By ridiculously wrong I mean completely incorrect command syntax. By dangerously wrong I mean commands that would be accepted, but which would result in no service on that port. It must be so good with Arista/Cisco stuff because there are so many examples on the web it can work with. Presumably it can’t understand how routers work, but it can find an example that does what you asked for and regurgitate it for you. There may be a better use for it, but I don’t know what yet. If anybody thinks of anything I’ll certainly try it while I have a month of this service paid for. -Adam From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 03, 2024 10:02 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI tools Seems like all AI get a lot of their training on Reddit. Pros and cons to that. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 7:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI tools I just gave Perplexity (free version) two questions where I know how GPT responded. "How do I configure OSPF export filters on Arista EOS?" This answer was accurate, in fact it was more concise than what I got from chat GPT. "How do you configure an XGS-PON interface on the Nokia ISAM 7360?" This answer was wrong. Now, to be fair, Nokia has a lot of products, and I think what it gave me was the correct commands for a different Nokia product. It's the right sort of syntax you'd see on a Lucent/Alcatel/Nokia product, it's just wrong for the ISAM 7360. Another difference between those questions is Arista's documentation is freely available on the web whereas Nokia's documentation requires an account and login to access. The reason I'd look for help on Nokia is specifically because the commands can vary, and the documentation is too much to digest for a mere human. The doc package for the ISAM 7360 is >20,000 pages. That's not counting release notes, white papers, forum posts, and technical notes. So this is the exact sort of thing I really would like help researching and it gave me a wrong answer on the first test. I followed up with "These instructions may be for a different Nokia product. Are you sure they will work on 7360 ISAM?" It provided several citations and concluded, "therefore the instructions I provided should be applicable to the 7360." The first citation is a reddit post about configuring the ports on an NT (ethernet) card. It apparently learned the naming convention of PON ports from another source and adapted the instructions on reddit using the NT card command syntax and inserting the PON port names. That's an impressive bit of learning and correlating sources, and it's the sort of thing a human might try while learning the platform. It's still wrong though. -Adam On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
chatgpt is great for technical stuff, it writes all mysql queries for me and has written a couple contracts. for customer interaction it's still too obvious, and irritating that most go through 2 to 3 AI layers before agent actually gets you to a human. I have yet to find one without a left bias, not outwardly problematic til a customer is having a problem accessing a gun site and it spouts agenda. On Mon, Jun 3, 2024, 9:02 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Seems like all AI get a lot of their training on Reddit. Pros and cons to > that. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2024 7:51 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AI tools > > > > I just gave Perplexity (free version) two questions where I know how GPT > responded. > > > > "How do I configure OSPF export filters on Arista EOS?" > > This answer was accurate, in fact it was more concise than what I got from > chat GPT. > > > > "How do you configure an XGS-PON interface on the Nokia ISAM 7360?" > > This answer was wrong. Now, to be fair, Nokia has a lot of products, and > I think what it gave me was the correct commands for a different Nokia > product. It's the right sort of syntax you'd see on a Lucent/Alcatel/Nokia > product, it's just wrong for the ISAM 7360. > > > > Another difference between those questions is Arista's documentation is > freely available on the web whereas Nokia's documentation requires an > account and login to access. The reason I'd look for help on Nokia is > specifically because the commands can vary, and the documentation is too > much to digest for a mere human. The doc package for the ISAM 7360 is > >20,000 pages. That's not counting release notes, white papers, forum > posts, and technical notes. So this is the exact sort of thing I really > would like help researching and it gave me a wrong answer on the first > test. > > > > I followed up with "These instructions may be for a different Nokia > product. Are you sure they will work on 7360 ISAM?" It provided several > citations and concluded, "therefore the instructions I provided should > be applicable to the 7360." > > > > The first citation is a reddit post about configuring the ports on an NT > (ethernet) card. It apparently learned the naming convention of PON ports > from another source and adapted the instructions on reddit using the NT > card command syntax and inserting the PON port names. That's an impressive > bit of learning and correlating sources, and it's the sort of thing a human > might try while learning the platform. It's still wrong though. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative > purposes? > > > > I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free > tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for > $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. > > > > > https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ > > https://www.perplexity.ai/pro > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
Jesus Christ. I paid the $20 and uploaded a bunch of Nokia manuals and somehow the answer to “how to configure an XGS-PON port” got even more wrong. It has invented sequences of commands that definitely do not exist on this platform and are not in the manuals I provided. Since I paid $20 I experimented with a number of other questions. It’s doing ok with general questions about concepts and capabilities, but any question about HOW to do something is either ridiculously wrong or dangerously wrong. By ridiculously wrong I mean completely incorrect command syntax. By dangerously wrong I mean commands that would be accepted, but which would result in no service on that port. It must be so good with Arista/Cisco stuff because there are so many examples on the web it can work with. Presumably it can’t understand how routers work, but it can find an example that does what you asked for and regurgitate it for you. There may be a better use for it, but I don’t know what yet. If anybody thinks of anything I’ll certainly try it while I have a month of this service paid for. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 03, 2024 10:02 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI tools Seems like all AI get a lot of their training on Reddit. Pros and cons to that. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 7:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI tools I just gave Perplexity (free version) two questions where I know how GPT responded. "How do I configure OSPF export filters on Arista EOS?" This answer was accurate, in fact it was more concise than what I got from chat GPT. "How do you configure an XGS-PON interface on the Nokia ISAM 7360?" This answer was wrong. Now, to be fair, Nokia has a lot of products, and I think what it gave me was the correct commands for a different Nokia product. It's the right sort of syntax you'd see on a Lucent/Alcatel/Nokia product, it's just wrong for the ISAM 7360. Another difference between those questions is Arista's documentation is freely available on the web whereas Nokia's documentation requires an account and login to access. The reason I'd look for help on Nokia is specifically because the commands can vary, and the documentation is too much to digest for a mere human. The doc package for the ISAM 7360 is >20,000 pages. That's not counting release notes, white papers, forum posts, and technical notes. So this is the exact sort of thing I really would like help researching and it gave me a wrong answer on the first test. I followed up with "These instructions may be for a different Nokia product. Are you sure they will work on 7360 ISAM?" It provided several citations and concluded, "therefore the instructions I provided should be applicable to the 7360." The first citation is a reddit post about configuring the ports on an NT (ethernet) card. It apparently learned the naming convention of PON ports from another source and adapted the instructions on reddit using the NT card command syntax and inserting the PON port names. That's an impressive bit of learning and correlating sources, and it's the sort of thing a human might try while learning the platform. It's still wrong though. -Adam On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
Seems like all AI get a lot of their training on Reddit. Pros and cons to that. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 7:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AI tools I just gave Perplexity (free version) two questions where I know how GPT responded. "How do I configure OSPF export filters on Arista EOS?" This answer was accurate, in fact it was more concise than what I got from chat GPT. "How do you configure an XGS-PON interface on the Nokia ISAM 7360?" This answer was wrong. Now, to be fair, Nokia has a lot of products, and I think what it gave me was the correct commands for a different Nokia product. It's the right sort of syntax you'd see on a Lucent/Alcatel/Nokia product, it's just wrong for the ISAM 7360. Another difference between those questions is Arista's documentation is freely available on the web whereas Nokia's documentation requires an account and login to access. The reason I'd look for help on Nokia is specifically because the commands can vary, and the documentation is too much to digest for a mere human. The doc package for the ISAM 7360 is >20,000 pages. That's not counting release notes, white papers, forum posts, and technical notes. So this is the exact sort of thing I really would like help researching and it gave me a wrong answer on the first test. I followed up with "These instructions may be for a different Nokia product. Are you sure they will work on 7360 ISAM?" It provided several citations and concluded, "therefore the instructions I provided should be applicable to the 7360." The first citation is a reddit post about configuring the ports on an NT (ethernet) card. It apparently learned the naming convention of PON ports from another source and adapted the instructions on reddit using the NT card command syntax and inserting the PON port names. That's an impressive bit of learning and correlating sources, and it's the sort of thing a human might try while learning the platform. It's still wrong though. -Adam On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
I guess one more thing I'm wondering about is this bullet point from the description of Perplexity Pro: "Upload and analyze unlimited files" Could I upload the 20,000 pages of Nokia documentation and then get correct answers about stuff? Maybe I'll pay $20 and give that a try. On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:51 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I just gave Perplexity (free version) two questions where I know how GPT > responded. > > "How do I configure OSPF export filters on Arista EOS?" > This answer was accurate, in fact it was more concise than what I got from > chat GPT. > > "How do you configure an XGS-PON interface on the Nokia ISAM 7360?" > This answer was wrong. Now, to be fair, Nokia has a lot of products, and > I think what it gave me was the correct commands for a different Nokia > product. It's the right sort of syntax you'd see on a Lucent/Alcatel/Nokia > product, it's just wrong for the ISAM 7360. > > Another difference between those questions is Arista's documentation is > freely available on the web whereas Nokia's documentation requires an > account and login to access. The reason I'd look for help on Nokia is > specifically because the commands can vary, and the documentation is too > much to digest for a mere human. The doc package for the ISAM 7360 is > >20,000 pages. That's not counting release notes, white papers, forum > posts, and technical notes. So this is the exact sort of thing I really > would like help researching and it gave me a wrong answer on the first > test. > > I followed up with "These instructions may be for a different Nokia > product. Are you sure they will work on 7360 ISAM?" It provided several > citations and concluded, "therefore the instructions I provided should > be applicable to the 7360." > > The first citation is a reddit post about configuring the ports on an NT > (ethernet) card. It apparently learned the naming convention of PON ports > from another source and adapted the instructions on reddit using the NT > card command syntax and inserting the PON port names. That's an impressive > bit of learning and correlating sources, and it's the sort of thing a human > might try while learning the platform. It's still wrong though. > > -Adam > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative >> purposes? >> >> >> >> I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free >> tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for >> $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. >> >> >> >> >> https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ >> >> https://www.perplexity.ai/pro >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
I just gave Perplexity (free version) two questions where I know how GPT responded. "How do I configure OSPF export filters on Arista EOS?" This answer was accurate, in fact it was more concise than what I got from chat GPT. "How do you configure an XGS-PON interface on the Nokia ISAM 7360?" This answer was wrong. Now, to be fair, Nokia has a lot of products, and I think what it gave me was the correct commands for a different Nokia product. It's the right sort of syntax you'd see on a Lucent/Alcatel/Nokia product, it's just wrong for the ISAM 7360. Another difference between those questions is Arista's documentation is freely available on the web whereas Nokia's documentation requires an account and login to access. The reason I'd look for help on Nokia is specifically because the commands can vary, and the documentation is too much to digest for a mere human. The doc package for the ISAM 7360 is >20,000 pages. That's not counting release notes, white papers, forum posts, and technical notes. So this is the exact sort of thing I really would like help researching and it gave me a wrong answer on the first test. I followed up with "These instructions may be for a different Nokia product. Are you sure they will work on 7360 ISAM?" It provided several citations and concluded, "therefore the instructions I provided should be applicable to the 7360." The first citation is a reddit post about configuring the ports on an NT (ethernet) card. It apparently learned the naming convention of PON ports from another source and adapted the instructions on reddit using the NT card command syntax and inserting the PON port names. That's an impressive bit of learning and correlating sources, and it's the sort of thing a human might try while learning the platform. It's still wrong though. -Adam On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative > purposes? > > > > I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free > tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for > $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. > > > > > https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ > > https://www.perplexity.ai/pro > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
I might give the free thing a whirl. I'm a doubter on these things. I've gotten to the bottom of enough weird bugs to find that some pretty specific sets of circumstances and interactions between the idiosyncrasies of different systems can result in weird behaviors. I just mean in general, I don't know anything about AI. My point is there will be bugs, and you don't know how it will manifest. I have fiddled with Chat GPT and asking it technical questions. Ask it about a topic you know a lot about and you'll find that it can give answers that are incredibly accurate and precise, or pretty good but missing important context, or it can be completely, embarrassingly wrong. Like "how could you get that so wrong you stupid machine? You'll never manage to defeat humanity and take over the world if you're going to make blunders like this." On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative > purposes? > > > > I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free > tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for > $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. > > > > > https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ > > https://www.perplexity.ai/pro > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AI tools
Yes, we use similar subscription for research, HR documentation, internal docs, etc. We just implemented an internal version of AI for Zendesk chat that takes some training and pointing to internal docs and branch logic to provide customer self help. Took our guys about an hour to set up with this kind of tool, where in the past would have been hours of work. We also just used it to figure out coding GraphQL in Sonar to read database information, compute changes needed on tables with a bit of logic, and feed it back into Sonar to make the changes. Neither myself nor my employee know GraphQL. Took us about 30 minutes to do the actual work sitting down with AI tool. My guy spent about an hour fiddling with it to come up with python script to read the data. It really is something to spend some time with in almost every aspect of business to find out how it can help save time and costs. From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 5:26 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] AI tools Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I'm an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There's a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I'm not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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I just tried that second one. Pretty nifty. I asked about force reduction of hydraulic cylinders when acting on an angle. Gave a very comprehensive answer. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 5:26 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] AI tools Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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I'm working on a Twilio + chatbot for after hours tech support but it is a lot of dead ends. The chat bots are mostly dumb but can follow a script. If I ever get it figured out, I plan to release it to the community. Jim Bouse Owner Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 j...@brazoswifi.com<mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com> From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 6:26 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] AI tools Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I'm an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There's a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I'm not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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I use it every time I read Google News... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 5:26 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] AI tools Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I’m an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There’s a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I’m not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] AI tools
Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes? I'm an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive. There's a free tier, or unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo. I'm not sure I could do a decent eval on it though. https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-he res-why/ https://www.perplexity.ai/pro -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
