Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch Packet Loss
We had issues with ports 1 and 2 on a few planet models. Ethernet, fiber, or a combination of the two all had the issue if I remember correctly. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I'm trying to link up a Planet industrial ethernet switch (IGS-10020MT) with a CCR via SFP ports and bidi optics. I'm getting packet loss (~5%) and the receive errors are incrementing steadily on the switch. Any ideas what I can check here? Do these not work well with generic bidi optics? -Jason
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
Personally? I don't think there's anything there's anything that justifies his reactions and behavior. He wrote some semi useful code, he didn't discover the missing link, sequence the genome, or cure Ebola. F*%k 'em. There's enough cases of over-inflated self importance in the world. On April 3, 2015 11:59:53 PM AKDT, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: It's more than just OIDs, adding device support involves a fair amount of fiddly little things. Finding/cropping icon, regex to match the OS/device type to handle it correctly, logic to handle the device-specific things, logic to work around whatever they broke in the MIB (remember when Cambium returned strings instead of ints for some counters?). Then more testing. That's what makes Observium more useful out of the box than something like Cacti where you're adding OIDs onesey twosey to device templates. I think a big part of his reaction is, if you watch IRC, for the past few months to years there have been people asking for WISP features and pretty much nobody in a place to write code to do it. My guess is he is time constrained and would rather work on other things (hence non-responsiveness to offers of money) combined with not wanting to deal with what could be perceived as self-entitled communication from some users. The hostile reaction to WISP gear: CMMMicro is a switch that doesn't even use the switch MIB - Work done to support WISP devices doesn't pay off in helping support other Enterprise/Wireline devices. Cambium is extra special because they version the PMP MIB against OS rev instead of starting out with a well-designed MIB as spec and fixing OS to match. The easy way out is to ignore that and use the latest but what happens when Cambium updates something? Bug reports from users on new OS complaining that something doesn't work. You update and now there's bug reports from the users that want to stay on old OS for a while. The hard way? Handle every OS rev differently/code gardening responsibility? You just can't win. I digress So, WISP gear, he doesn't need it and doesn't care. I need it and care so I write what I need. I may not appreciate the politics of Observium but I'm being pragmatic. I contributed what little Cambium PMP device support there is in Observium currently and I have more devices I'd like to see supported. If the time comes that my contributions are turned away I'll look for another monitoring solution, not out of spite but because I need to monitor all the things. There may come a time when I move to LibreNMS. They seem to have openness saying yes down but I want to see how they handle saying no to extraneous things/feature creep beyond monitoring metrics (e.g. if it were me, allow/keep rancid integration but just say no to generalized IPAM). You can't please everyone and who/how they choose to please will be insightful. /I digress On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Do we know why Adam blows up whenever people specify OIDs they want to track? I've never bothered to figure it out myself. He made it seem like hte OID was such a small part of everything that needed to be done. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Neil Lathwood neil.lathw...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:08:23 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS On 31 March 2015 at 19:04, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yeah you should accept at least equipment donations :) Some of us may have spares we can part with and after you are done sell them to help buy other products you want to support. The donation of equipment is a huge . It wouldn't be necessary to send the kit anywhere just provide snmp access, that way we can see what data is available and work on adding support. Thanks, Neil -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
Dang, editing that on mobile during a really good horror movie really killed some of the impact I had hoped it would have. Oh well. If anyone here gets a chance to watch The Babadook, give it a go. It's excellent! On April 4, 2015 12:07:55 AM AKDT, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Personally? I don't think there's anything there's anything that justifies his reactions and behavior. He wrote some semi useful code, he didn't discover the missing link, sequence the genome, or cure Ebola. F*%k 'em. There's enough cases of over-inflated self importance in the world. On April 3, 2015 11:59:53 PM AKDT, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: It's more than just OIDs, adding device support involves a fair amount of fiddly little things. Finding/cropping icon, regex to match the OS/device type to handle it correctly, logic to handle the device-specific things, logic to work around whatever they broke in the MIB (remember when Cambium returned strings instead of ints for some counters?). Then more testing. That's what makes Observium more useful out of the box than something like Cacti where you're adding OIDs onesey twosey to device templates. I think a big part of his reaction is, if you watch IRC, for the past few months to years there have been people asking for WISP features and pretty much nobody in a place to write code to do it. My guess is he is time constrained and would rather work on other things (hence non-responsiveness to offers of money) combined with not wanting to deal with what could be perceived as self-entitled communication from some users. The hostile reaction to WISP gear: CMMMicro is a switch that doesn't even use the switch MIB - Work done to support WISP devices doesn't pay off in helping support other Enterprise/Wireline devices. Cambium is extra special because they version the PMP MIB against OS rev instead of starting out with a well-designed MIB as spec and fixing OS to match. The easy way out is to ignore that and use the latest but what happens when Cambium updates something? Bug reports from users on new OS complaining that something doesn't work. You update and now there's bug reports from the users that want to stay on old OS for a while. The hard way? Handle every OS rev differently/code gardening responsibility? You just can't win. I digress So, WISP gear, he doesn't need it and doesn't care. I need it and care so I write what I need. I may not appreciate the politics of Observium but I'm being pragmatic. I contributed what little Cambium PMP device support there is in Observium currently and I have more devices I'd like to see supported. If the time comes that my contributions are turned away I'll look for another monitoring solution, not out of spite but because I need to monitor all the things. There may come a time when I move to LibreNMS. They seem to have openness saying yes down but I want to see how they handle saying no to extraneous things/feature creep beyond monitoring metrics (e.g. if it were me, allow/keep rancid integration but just say no to generalized IPAM). You can't please everyone and who/how they choose to please will be insightful. /I digress On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Do we know why Adam blows up whenever people specify OIDs they want to track? I've never bothered to figure it out myself. He made it seem like hte OID was such a small part of everything that needed to be done. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Neil Lathwood neil.lathw...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:08:23 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS On 31 March 2015 at 19:04, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yeah you should accept at least equipment donations :) Some of us may have spares we can part with and after you are done sell them to help buy other products you want to support. The donation of equipment is a huge . It wouldn't be necessary to send the kit anywhere just provide snmp access, that way we can see what data is available and work on adding support. Thanks, Neil -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
It's more than just OIDs, adding device support involves a fair amount of fiddly little things. Finding/cropping icon, regex to match the OS/device type to handle it correctly, logic to handle the device-specific things, logic to work around whatever they broke in the MIB (remember when Cambium returned strings instead of ints for some counters?). Then more testing. That's what makes Observium more useful out of the box than something like Cacti where you're adding OIDs onesey twosey to device templates. I think a big part of his reaction is, if you watch IRC, for the past few months to years there have been people asking for WISP features and pretty much nobody in a place to write code to do it. My guess is he is time constrained and would rather work on other things (hence non-responsiveness to offers of money) combined with not wanting to deal with what could be perceived as self-entitled communication from some users. The hostile reaction to WISP gear: CMMMicro is a switch that doesn't even use the switch MIB - Work done to support WISP devices doesn't pay off in helping support other Enterprise/Wireline devices. Cambium is extra special because they version the PMP MIB against OS rev instead of starting out with a well-designed MIB as spec and fixing OS to match. The easy way out is to ignore that and use the latest but what happens when Cambium updates something? Bug reports from users on new OS complaining that something doesn't work. You update and now there's bug reports from the users that want to stay on old OS for a while. The hard way? Handle every OS rev differently/code gardening responsibility? You just can't win. I digress So, WISP gear, he doesn't need it and doesn't care. I need it and care so I write what I need. I may not appreciate the politics of Observium but I'm being pragmatic. I contributed what little Cambium PMP device support there is in Observium currently and I have more devices I'd like to see supported. If the time comes that my contributions are turned away I'll look for another monitoring solution, not out of spite but because I need to monitor all the things. There may come a time when I move to LibreNMS. They seem to have openness saying yes down but I want to see how they handle saying no to extraneous things/feature creep beyond monitoring metrics (e.g. if it were me, allow/keep rancid integration but just say no to generalized IPAM). You can't please everyone and who/how they choose to please will be insightful. /I digress On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Do we know why Adam blows up whenever people specify OIDs they want to track? I've never bothered to figure it out myself. He made it seem like hte OID was such a small part of everything that needed to be done. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Neil Lathwood neil.lathw...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:08:23 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS On 31 March 2015 at 19:04, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yeah you should accept at least equipment donations :) Some of us may have spares we can part with and after you are done sell them to help buy other products you want to support. The donation of equipment is a huge . It wouldn't be necessary to send the kit anywhere just provide snmp access, that way we can see what data is available and work on adding support. Thanks, Neil
[AFMUG] FS: Upgrade Keys Cambium PTP 500 lite to full
26 x keys for 5000 EURO daniel
Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] PacketFlux SiteMonitor II Cacti template?
That would explain why I didn't see it. Thought it was my blurry eyes on
a Saturday morning...
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/3/2015 9:17 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:
Amazon strips out XML files. Nice.
On 4/3/2015 11:15 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:
I have a couple different options in this template. Non-indexed basic
graph templates for the Base Unit (I's and II's are separate)
metrics, which are collapsed onto a single graph. I have only one of
the Temp Control expansion modules so I just left that graph template
alone and haven't converted mine to indexed yet, and probably wont.
Non-indexed is more for the old Base-I which is kinda broken. You
can't SNMPwalk and get any of the .0 rows, and the .0 row of analog
is the base's internal temperature sensor! Hopefully Forrest will get
that firmware out soon. Non-indexed means it uses the data templates
so the OIDs are set in stone, which is not very flexible.
The Base-2 definitely works fine as indexed. The actual index field
is the description of each row. What indexed lets you do is have the
expansion modules in any order, it makes sense when you have 10
different configurations at various sites. Or just lazy I suppose.
Put the packetflux_sitemonitor_analog and binary XML files in
cacti_base/resource/snmp_queries. Then import the host template XML
file in the GUI.
Change whatever you want. If you need help, let me know.
On 4/3/2015 10:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Bill was talking about his today or yesterday.
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mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone have a Cacti template for the PacketFlux SiteMonitor II
that they would be willing to share?
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor
He started posting because of this thread! =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Did you hear from him? I've seen him posting on a list somewhere recently. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 30, 2015 10:45:18 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor Hello Kool Kats:Can one of you dudes send me Lewis Bergmans contact information? Copacetic..knew that you could Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Upgrade Keys Cambium PTP 500 lite to full
And with the recent drop in exchange rates it is a bigger bargain. On Apr 4, 2015 9:10 AM, Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com wrote: 26 x keys for 5000 EURO daniel
[AFMUG] OT This is why you bury it
Monkeys eating fiber optic cables in Indian city http://cir.ca/s/RTKB
Re: [AFMUG] gestioip
It's DNS zone export is a bit clunky, but I've liked it so far. It doesn't have the pretty UI of PHPIPAdmin, but it's more functional. Don't care about VLANs here. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:10:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] gestioip I dont know what your purpose for it is, but it is freaking perfect for what I need. Simple and easy. It has a paid for feature that will go out and pull down router configs regularly I am going to look into. that isnt a purpose I intended for this, but if it does it well, then kazaa I havent messed witht he VLAN documentation part since we have very few, but if it does give good visibility in documentaion, it might make VLAN a more appealing option on out network On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm migrating from IP-Plan to Gestio. As with everything else, I get half way through and then something more pressing comes up... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 5:35:03 PM Subject: [AFMUG] gestioip I had been looking for something simple to keep track of and resize subnets. i had settled on learning racktables, which has a pretty steep curve to full functionality For shits I installed gestioip, the tutorial for setup is great for non linux guys, there are a couple things that took some poking like setting the password for mysql root and getting the apache server to start, otherwise really clean. This was EXACTLY what i was looking for, just putt in the root networks I use, have opverview of whats in use, whats available. It will go out and pull subnets off your routers, Poercode BMU and Fortigate tested. Very much worth looking into. It actually has already proven handy for our contracted office networks since it allows client views, we can manage their IP space from this as well -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor
Did you hear from him? I've seen him posting on a list somewhere recently. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:45:18 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor Hello Kool Kats: Can one of you dudes send me Lewis Bergmans contact information? Copacetic..knew that you could Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor
Not directly. Might have a tower dismantling project for him in Midland. Jaime Solorza On Apr 4, 2015 9:54 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Did you hear from him? I've seen him posting on a list somewhere recently. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 30, 2015 10:45:18 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor Hello Kool Kats:Can one of you dudes send me Lewis Bergmans contact information? Copacetic..knew that you could Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
I had got the impression that he didn't even want user contributions. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 2:59:53 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS It's more than just OIDs, adding device support involves a fair amount of fiddly little things. Finding/cropping icon, regex to match the OS/device type to handle it correctly, logic to handle the device-specific things, logic to work around whatever they broke in the MIB (remember when Cambium returned strings instead of ints for some counters?). Then more testing. That's what makes Observium more useful out of the box than something like Cacti where you're adding OIDs onesey twosey to device templates. I think a big part of his reaction is, if you watch IRC, for the past few months to years there have been people asking for WISP features and pretty much nobody in a place to write code to do it. My guess is he is time constrained and would rather work on other things (hence non-responsiveness to offers of money) combined with not wanting to deal with what could be perceived as self-entitled communication from some users. The hostile reaction to WISP gear: CMMMicro is a switch that doesn't even use the switch MIB - Work done to support WISP devices doesn't pay off in helping support other Enterprise/Wireline devices. Cambium is extra special because they version the PMP MIB against OS rev instead of starting out with a well-designed MIB as spec and fixing OS to match. The easy way out is to ignore that and use the latest but what happens when Cambium updates something? Bug reports from users on new OS complaining that something doesn't work. You update and now there's bug reports from the users that want to stay on old OS for a while. The hard way? Handle every OS rev differently/code gardening responsibility? You just can't win. I digress So, WISP gear, he doesn't need it and doesn't care. I need it and care so I write what I need. I may not appreciate the politics of Observium but I'm being pragmatic. I contributed what little Cambium PMP device support there is in Observium currently and I have more devices I'd like to see supported. If the time comes that my contributions are turned away I'll look for another monitoring solution, not out of spite but because I need to monitor all the things. There may come a time when I move to LibreNMS. They seem to have openness saying yes down but I want to see how they handle saying no to extraneous things/feature creep beyond monitoring metrics (e.g. if it were me, allow/keep rancid integration but just say no to generalized IPAM). You can't please everyone and who/how they choose to please will be insightful. /I digress On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Do we know why Adam blows up whenever people specify OIDs they want to track? I've never bothered to figure it out myself. He made it seem like hte OID was such a small part of everything that needed to be done. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Neil Lathwood neil.lathw...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:08:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS On 31 March 2015 at 19:04, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: blockquote Yeah you should accept at least equipment donations :) Some of us may have spares we can part with and after you are done sell them to help buy other products you want to support. The donation of equipment is a huge . It wouldn't be necessary to send the kit anywhere just provide snmp access, that way we can see what data is available and work on adding support. Thanks, Neil /blockquote
[AFMUG] Ruckus first to roll out enterprise 802.11ac Wave 2 AP | Network World
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2904851/wireless/ruckus-first-to-roll-out-enterprise-802-11ac-wave-2-ap.html Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] gestioip
I think I'm gonna look at moving from IPPlan to phpIPAM. IPPlan still works fine, it just hasn't had any updates in like 5 years and some things are broken. On 4/4/2015 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's DNS zone export is a bit clunky, but I've liked it so far. It doesn't have the pretty UI of PHPIPAdmin, but it's more functional. Don't care about VLANs here. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 30, 2015 11:10:23 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] gestioip I dont know what your purpose for it is, but it is freaking perfect for what I need. Simple and easy. It has a paid for feature that will go out and pull down router configs regularly I am going to look into. that isnt a purpose I intended for this, but if it does it well, then kazaa I havent messed witht he VLAN documentation part since we have very few, but if it does give good visibility in documentaion, it might make VLAN a more appealing option on out network On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm migrating from IP-Plan to Gestio. As with everything else, I get half way through and then something more pressing comes up... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, March 29, 2015 5:35:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] gestioip I had been looking for something simple to keep track of and resize subnets. i had settled on learning racktables, which has a pretty steep curve to full functionality For shits I installed gestioip, the tutorial for setup is great for non linux guys, there are a couple things that took some poking like setting the password for mysql root and getting the apache server to start, otherwise really clean. This was EXACTLY what i was looking for, just putt in the root networks I use, have opverview of whats in use, whats available. It will go out and pull subnets off your routers, Poercode BMU and Fortigate tested. Very much worth looking into. It actually has already proven handy for our contracted office networks since it allows client views, we can manage their IP space from this as well -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] gestioip
That's why I left. Well, am leaving. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 8:49:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] gestioip I think I'm gonna look at moving from IPPlan to phpIPAM. IPPlan still works fine, it just hasn't had any updates in like 5 years and some things are broken. On 4/4/2015 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's DNS zone export is a bit clunky, but I've liked it so far. It doesn't have the pretty UI of PHPIPAdmin, but it's more functional. Don't care about VLANs here. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:10:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] gestioip I dont know what your purpose for it is, but it is freaking perfect for what I need. Simple and easy. It has a paid for feature that will go out and pull down router configs regularly I am going to look into. that isnt a purpose I intended for this, but if it does it well, then kazaa I havent messed witht he VLAN documentation part since we have very few, but if it does give good visibility in documentaion, it might make VLAN a more appealing option on out network On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote I'm migrating from IP-Plan to Gestio. As with everything else, I get half way through and then something more pressing comes up... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 5:35:03 PM Subject: [AFMUG] gestioip I had been looking for something simple to keep track of and resize subnets. i had settled on learning racktables, which has a pretty steep curve to full functionality For shits I installed gestioip, the tutorial for setup is great for non linux guys, there are a couple things that took some poking like setting the password for mysql root and getting the apache server to start, otherwise really clean. This was EXACTLY what i was looking for, just putt in the root networks I use, have opverview of whats in use, whats available. It will go out and pull subnets off your routers, Poercode BMU and Fortigate tested. Very much worth looking into. It actually has already proven handy for our contracted office networks since it allows client views, we can manage their IP space from this as well -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor
Where am I? Oh right here. Lewis Bergman 119 N Penny Lane Winters, TX 79567 325-439-0533 On Apr 4, 2015 10:54 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Did you hear from him? I've seen him posting on a list somewhere recently. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 30, 2015 10:45:18 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor Hello Kool Kats:Can one of you dudes send me Lewis Bergmans contact information? Copacetic..knew that you could Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Every 6th Ping
We are running the latest software on ours and stopped using them as ntp servers and everything is copacetic now. No more lock-ups :) -sean On Friday, April 3, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even if devices are not using the CTM as a NTP server, they tend to lock up.. in my experience anyways. We have several CTM's (not CTM2) in the field that have experienced this. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); wrote: If devices are set up to use the ctm2 as their ntp server then the ctm2 interface tends to lock up. Make sure nothing upset to use the ctm2 as its ntp server. -sean On Friday, April 3, 2015, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@wyoming.com'); wrote: We had lost management access to the CTM2. Rebooted it and all is good now. No idea of how that could happen. On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:35 PM, David Sovereen david.sover...@mercury.net wrote: This seems to ring a bell as an old firmware issue… perhaps circa Version 9 or 10, maybe 11? Dave On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com wrote: Does anybody know what would cause every 6th ping to be in the 400-600mS range? This is on 5.7 PMP100 gear.
Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AirOS and AirFIBER Radio for LibreNMS
Hi Matt, Many thanks, that would be amazing :) kind Regards, Neil On 4 April 2015 at 05:02, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote: Hi Neil, I'll be happy to set up a few devices for you to test with ... I'll send you another message off-list when I'm back in the office Monday :) -Matt On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Neil Lathwood neil.lathw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, As per the other thread discussing LibreNMS and us trying to add support added for more wireless based devices, a fair few have been in touch to offer help and support in making this happen - thanks to everyone who has been in contact. Just before I came across the other thread I'd been in touch with someone on the ubnt forums who had built support for these devices and they've (Mark Gibbons) very kindly provided us the code which this evening has just been merged into our main code base. I don't actually have these devices to be able to test this, if anyone does and they can provide snmp access for me to give things a whirl that would be amazing - just drop me an email offlist. We are still working to get support for other vendors and if it's still ok with everyone, I'll post updates as and when we have them - if not, just tell me to go away :) Thanks, Neil
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
Until I see evidence to the contrary (just did a svn up and no wisp gear has been removed...) I'm treating that entire exchange as the internet equivalent of some drunk (Smeg) walking up to you(Adam) in the bar and grabbing your arm and saying have your wife dance with me. You're like, that's her choice and she says no. Repeating as the night goes on. Eventually maybe you snap, say some unkind things because you want the drunk to get lost and he just isn't taking the hint. That wasn't the first IRC exchange between them and others. Adam's volatility is well known but in this case I believe he was sorely provoked. We've all experienced the client from hell. Thing is, maybe some of us are the client from hell. What happened in IRC after may help understand where he is coming from... [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:18:33] While I completely understand that you're the author and shit, and what you say goes. period... wasn't that a bit of an overreaction? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:18:56] BenA: you have no fucking idea [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:05] I don't, it's true. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:06] these people will not take no for an answer [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:07] they go on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:08] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:09] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:10] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:20] Couldn't you just, like, look away from the screen? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:23] BUT MUH SUPPORT, MILLIONS OF USERS, PLZ [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:32] couldn't you? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:38] Ask him if he wants to pay. if he doesn't, ignore? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:46] *oh, they all say they want to pay* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:49] Ah. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:10] *but when they realise it costs more than $5...* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:20:15] Right. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:31] the wireless industry seems to be rammed full of overly entitled douches [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:48] whot hink it's totally justified that we support evey bit of shitty kit they have [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:51] fucking wireless vendors [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:00] every new MODEL they release has to come with an entirely new set of mibs [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:04] it's ridiculous [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:21:11] You're a victim of your own success. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:23] and none of these people will ever listen when you tell them [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:32] adn they just keep coming back and coming back [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:35] *he's asked here a few times* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:40] *and we've had these conversations on the mailing list* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:44] *and god knows what else* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:02] and you'd think [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:03] when someone says [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:07] fuck off, it's not going to happen [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:13] you'd realise that was, well, that [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:22:53] I guess he really sees the advantages of Observium, and is keen for you to have further market penetration... over your express wishes (-: [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:06] no, he's keen to have his own pet hardware supported [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:23:12] That too. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:21] we already support 4 different families of cambium kit [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:28] but apparently that doesn't include the devices he has [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:44] and i'm sure if i checked, we'd only have like 2-3 users using cambium kit [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:24:52] You could spend a few dozen man months of eye-straining, back-breaking labour adding in some kind of horribly complex and fucked up extensible API for 3rd party MIBs, and then telling people they can add whatever the fuck support/devices they like, but there's no support for it. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:06] or not [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:25:14] Party-pooper. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:25:39] And people said you were a nice guy. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:46] rarely [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:55] and even more rarely in here \o/ [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:26:49] *we have 3 cambium ptp400 devices and 5 cambium ptp800 devices* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:27:00] *in our entire userbase* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:27:24] *1086 cambium canopy devices* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:27:31] *but, ofc, he said they weren't important and not to bother with them* On Sat,
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Upgrade Keys Cambium PTP 500 lite to full
You may have better luck selling them in lots of 3-5. On Apr 4, 2015 9:10 AM, Daniel Gerlach danielgerl...@gmail.com wrote: 26 x keys for 5000 EURO daniel
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
I stopped caring about Observium when someone said it wouldn’t monitor something by IP address, it required both forward and reverse DNS. Even though Mike tried to defend that. It’s “Soup Nazi” logic. Everything else in the world accepts an IP address in place of a hostname, I suspect you have to write extra code to NOT do that. From: Jon Auer Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 5:52 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS Until I see evidence to the contrary (just did a svn up and no wisp gear has been removed...) I'm treating that entire exchange as the internet equivalent of some drunk (Smeg) walking up to you(Adam) in the bar and grabbing your arm and saying have your wife dance with me. You're like, that's her choice and she says no. Repeating as the night goes on. Eventually maybe you snap, say some unkind things because you want the drunk to get lost and he just isn't taking the hint. That wasn't the first IRC exchange between them and others. Adam's volatility is well known but in this case I believe he was sorely provoked. We've all experienced the client from hell. Thing is, maybe some of us are the client from hell. What happened in IRC after may help understand where he is coming from... [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:18:33] While I completely understand that you're the author and shit, and what you say goes. period... wasn't that a bit of an overreaction? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:18:56] BenA: you have no fucking idea [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:05] I don't, it's true. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:06] these people will not take no for an answer [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:07] they go on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:08] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:09] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:10] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:20] Couldn't you just, like, look away from the screen? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:23] BUT MUH SUPPORT, MILLIONS OF USERS, PLZ [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:32] couldn't you? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:38] Ask him if he wants to pay. if he doesn't, ignore? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:46] oh, they all say they want to pay [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:49] Ah. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:10] but when they realise it costs more than $5... [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:20:15] Right. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:31] the wireless industry seems to be rammed full of overly entitled douches [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:48] whot hink it's totally justified that we support evey bit of shitty kit they have [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:51] fucking wireless vendors [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:00] every new MODEL they release has to come with an entirely new set of mibs [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:04] it's ridiculous [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:21:11] You're a victim of your own success. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:23] and none of these people will ever listen when you tell them [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:32] adn they just keep coming back and coming back [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:35] he's asked here a few times [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:40] and we've had these conversations on the mailing list [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:44] and god knows what else [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:02] and you'd think [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:03] when someone says [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:07] fuck off, it's not going to happen [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:13] you'd realise that was, well, that [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:22:53] I guess he really sees the advantages of Observium, and is keen for you to have further market penetration... over your express wishes (-: [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:06] no, he's keen to have his own pet hardware supported [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:23:12] That too. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:21] we already support 4 different families of cambium kit [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:28] but apparently that doesn't include the devices he has [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:44] and i'm sure if i checked, we'd only have like 2-3 users using cambium kit [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:24:52] You could spend a few dozen man months of eye-straining, back-breaking labour adding in some kind of horribly complex and fucked up extensible API for 3rd party MIBs, and then telling people they can add whatever the fuck support/devices they like, but there's no support for it. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:06] or not [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:25:14] Party-pooper. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:25:39] And people said you were a nice guy.
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
Fair enough, there are soup nazi aspects, though I've come to appreciate them after I got past my initial surprise. Ports that are enabled but unused being in alarm was the big one for me. Also, it does not require reverse DNS, only forward. I suspect syslog collection needs reverse DNS to match up with hosts but I don't use that... There are good non-soup-nazi reasons to require hostnames as identifiers instead of IPs, not the least of which is if you're using IPs now you make IPv6 compatability a problem. I could go on about the many benefits of hostname as device ID as opposed to IP or integer but I'm not trying to sell anything :) On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I stopped caring about Observium when someone said it wouldn’t monitor something by IP address, it required both forward and reverse DNS. Even though Mike tried to defend that. It’s “Soup Nazi” logic. Everything else in the world accepts an IP address in place of a hostname, I suspect you have to write extra code to NOT do that. *From:* Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net *Sent:* Saturday, April 04, 2015 5:52 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS Until I see evidence to the contrary (just did a svn up and no wisp gear has been removed...) I'm treating that entire exchange as the internet equivalent of some drunk (Smeg) walking up to you(Adam) in the bar and grabbing your arm and saying have your wife dance with me. You're like, that's her choice and she says no. Repeating as the night goes on. Eventually maybe you snap, say some unkind things because you want the drunk to get lost and he just isn't taking the hint. That wasn't the first IRC exchange between them and others. Adam's volatility is well known but in this case I believe he was sorely provoked. We've all experienced the client from hell. Thing is, maybe some of us are the client from hell. What happened in IRC after may help understand where he is coming from... [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:18:33] While I completely understand that you're the author and shit, and what you say goes. period... wasn't that a bit of an overreaction? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:18:56] BenA: you have no fucking idea [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:05] I don't, it's true. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:06] these people will not take no for an answer [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:07] they go on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:08] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:09] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:10] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:20] Couldn't you just, like, look away from the screen? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:23] BUT MUH SUPPORT, MILLIONS OF USERS, PLZ [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:32] couldn't you? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:38] Ask him if he wants to pay. if he doesn't, ignore? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:46] *oh, they all say they want to pay* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:49] Ah. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:10] *but when they realise it costs more than $5...* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:20:15] Right. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:31] the wireless industry seems to be rammed full of overly entitled douches [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:48] whot hink it's totally justified that we support evey bit of shitty kit they have [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:51] fucking wireless vendors [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:00] every new MODEL they release has to come with an entirely new set of mibs [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:04] it's ridiculous [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:21:11] You're a victim of your own success. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:23] and none of these people will ever listen when you tell them [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:32] adn they just keep coming back and coming back [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:35] *he's asked here a few times* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:40] *and we've had these conversations on the mailing list* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:44] *and god knows what else* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:02] and you'd think [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:03] when someone says [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:07] fuck off, it's not going to happen [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:13] you'd realise that was, well, that [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:22:53] I guess he really sees the advantages of Observium, and is keen for you to have further market penetration... over your express wishes (-: [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:06] no, he's keen to have his own pet hardware supported [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:23:12] That too. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
Jon, Simply disable alerting on those ports. Problem solved. This is how you configure access switches that frequently have things plugged in / unplugged but you still want metrics when they are active. On April 4, 2015 3:22:05 PM AKDT, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Fair enough, there are soup nazi aspects, though I've come to appreciate them after I got past my initial surprise. Ports that are enabled but unused being in alarm was the big one for me. Also, it does not require reverse DNS, only forward. I suspect syslog collection needs reverse DNS to match up with hosts but I don't use that... There are good non-soup-nazi reasons to require hostnames as identifiers instead of IPs, not the least of which is if you're using IPs now you make IPv6 compatability a problem. I could go on about the many benefits of hostname as device ID as opposed to IP or integer but I'm not trying to sell anything :) On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I stopped caring about Observium when someone said it wouldn’t monitor something by IP address, it required both forward and reverse DNS. Even though Mike tried to defend that. It’s “Soup Nazi” logic. Everything else in the world accepts an IP address in place of a hostname, I suspect you have to write extra code to NOT do that. *From:* Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net *Sent:* Saturday, April 04, 2015 5:52 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS Until I see evidence to the contrary (just did a svn up and no wisp gear has been removed...) I'm treating that entire exchange as the internet equivalent of some drunk (Smeg) walking up to you(Adam) in the bar and grabbing your arm and saying have your wife dance with me. You're like, that's her choice and she says no. Repeating as the night goes on. Eventually maybe you snap, say some unkind things because you want the drunk to get lost and he just isn't taking the hint. That wasn't the first IRC exchange between them and others. Adam's volatility is well known but in this case I believe he was sorely provoked. We've all experienced the client from hell. Thing is, maybe some of us are the client from hell. What happened in IRC after may help understand where he is coming from... [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:18:33] While I completely understand that you're the author and shit, and what you say goes. period... wasn't that a bit of an overreaction? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:18:56] BenA: you have no fucking idea [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:05] I don't, it's true. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:06] these people will not take no for an answer [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:07] they go on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:08] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:09] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:10] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:20] Couldn't you just, like, look away from the screen? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:23] BUT MUH SUPPORT, MILLIONS OF USERS, PLZ [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:32] couldn't you? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:38] Ask him if he wants to pay. if he doesn't, ignore? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:46] *oh, they all say they want to pay* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:49] Ah. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:10] *but when they realise it costs more than $5...* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:20:15] Right. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:31] the wireless industry seems to be rammed full of overly entitled douches [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:48] whot hink it's totally justified that we support evey bit of shitty kit they have [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:51] fucking wireless vendors [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:00] every new MODEL they release has to come with an entirely new set of mibs [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:04] it's ridiculous [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:21:11] You're a victim of your own success. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:23] and none of these people will ever listen when you tell them [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:32] adn they just keep coming back and coming back [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:35] *he's asked here a few times* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:40] *and we've had these conversations on the mailing list* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:44] *and god knows what else* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:02] and you'd think [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:03] when someone says [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:07] fuck off, it's not going to happen [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:13] you'd realise that was, well, that [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:22:53] I guess he really sees the advantages of Observium, and
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
I can monitor by IP without issue. Always have been able to on multiple installs on multiple networks over several years. On April 4, 2015 3:07:21 PM AKDT, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I stopped caring about Observium when someone said it wouldn’t monitor something by IP address, it required both forward and reverse DNS. Even though Mike tried to defend that. It’s “Soup Nazi” logic. Everything else in the world accepts an IP address in place of a hostname, I suspect you have to write extra code to NOT do that. From: Jon Auer Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 5:52 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS Until I see evidence to the contrary (just did a svn up and no wisp gear has been removed...) I'm treating that entire exchange as the internet equivalent of some drunk (Smeg) walking up to you(Adam) in the bar and grabbing your arm and saying have your wife dance with me. You're like, that's her choice and she says no. Repeating as the night goes on. Eventually maybe you snap, say some unkind things because you want the drunk to get lost and he just isn't taking the hint. That wasn't the first IRC exchange between them and others. Adam's volatility is well known but in this case I believe he was sorely provoked. We've all experienced the client from hell. Thing is, maybe some of us are the client from hell. What happened in IRC after may help understand where he is coming from... [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:18:33] While I completely understand that you're the author and shit, and what you say goes. period... wasn't that a bit of an overreaction? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:18:56] BenA: you have no fucking idea [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:05] I don't, it's true. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:06] these people will not take no for an answer [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:07] they go on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:08] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:09] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:10] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:20] Couldn't you just, like, look away from the screen? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:23] BUT MUH SUPPORT, MILLIONS OF USERS, PLZ [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:32] couldn't you? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:38] Ask him if he wants to pay. if he doesn't, ignore? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:46] oh, they all say they want to pay [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:49] Ah. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:10] but when they realise it costs more than $5... [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:20:15] Right. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:31] the wireless industry seems to be rammed full of overly entitled douches [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:48] whot hink it's totally justified that we support evey bit of shitty kit they have [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:51] fucking wireless vendors [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:00] every new MODEL they release has to come with an entirely new set of mibs [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:04] it's ridiculous [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:21:11] You're a victim of your own success. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:23] and none of these people will ever listen when you tell them [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:32] adn they just keep coming back and coming back [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:35] he's asked here a few times [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:40] and we've had these conversations on the mailing list [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:44] and god knows what else [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:02] and you'd think [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:03] when someone says [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:07] fuck off, it's not going to happen [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:13] you'd realise that was, well, that [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:22:53] I guess he really sees the advantages of Observium, and is keen for you to have further market penetration... over your express wishes (-: [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:06] no, he's keen to have his own pet hardware supported [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:23:12] That too. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:21] we already support 4 different families of cambium kit [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:28] but apparently that doesn't include the devices he has [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:44] and i'm sure if i checked, we'd only have like 2-3 users using cambium kit [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:24:52] You could spend a few dozen man months of eye-straining, back-breaking labour adding in some kind of horribly complex and fucked up extensible API for 3rd party MIBs, and then telling people they can add whatever the fuck support/devices they like, but there's no support for it. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama
