Re: [AFMUG] Nice enclosures

[Jason Wilson]

http://www.e-boxenclosures.com/



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On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Company is called Ebox... stainless...
>

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Sterling Jacobson]

Ah yes, very interesting.

I AM aware CDN is different than website guys, thanks ☺

Just too lazy to trace/torch a CDN address right now.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

Your v4 goes to Chicago.


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From: "Sterling Jacobson" mailto:sterl...@avative.net>>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:45:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility
Very inaccurate too.

I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.

This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.
So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.
Not sure where their speed test web app is located.

IPv6

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com

Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1
  2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1
  318 ms22 ms22 ms  he.net.slix.net [2607:fa18:1:f00::15]
  418 ms18 ms19 ms  10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net [2001:470:0:27d::1]
  523 ms23 ms24 ms  10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net [2001:470:0:27e::1]
  618 ms21 ms24 ms  100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:72::1]
  716 ms16 ms16 ms  
asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:2c0::2]
  826 ms26 ms26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199
  923 ms24 ms25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2
10 *** Request timed out.
1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e
1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6
1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7
1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1
15 *** Request timed out.
16 *** Request timed out.
17 *** Request timed out.
18 *   42 ms42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4

IPv4

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com

Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1]
  2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net [69.27.173.37]
  3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162
  433 ms33 ms34 ms  be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net [209.63.82.186]
  532 ms32 ms32 ms  equinix01-chi2.amazon.com [206.223.119.98]
  638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36
  732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49
  852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63
  952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69
10 *** Request timed out.
11 *** Request timed out.
1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249
1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105
1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775
This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, to 
expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion to 
speedtest.net but might have less than optimal routing to 
Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link 
to netflix somewhere in the intermediate path.
Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
Netflix test during peak evening hours.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from netflix. Torching it 
looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses to run the 
test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Cassidy B. Larson]

I'll plug in directly tomorrow and see.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2016, at 17:09, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:
> 
>  
> Judging from the last 5 posts, no one has yet...
> if his test server is inhouse as i think he said - i agree, should be an 
> interesting response
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Nate Burke
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility
> 
> So then do you get full line speed results from the test?
> 
>> On 5/18/2016 5:51 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
>> Interesting though, from watching tcpdump while doing a speedtest, I’m 
>> seeing it hit BOTH of our local on-net Netflix appliances (over IPv6).
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 and 205.251.244.235 are both Amazon IPs. 
>>> Netflix uses a lot of EC2 stuff, so you’re not necessarily hitting their 
>>> “cache” when you pull up their website. 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 18, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
 wrote:
 
 Very inaccurate too.
 I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.
 This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.
 So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.
 Not sure where their speed test web app is located.
 IPv6
 C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com
 Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]
 over a maximum of 30 hops:
   1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1
   2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1
   318 ms22 ms22 ms  he.net.slix.net [2607:fa18:1:f00::15]
   418 ms18 ms19 ms  10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net 
 [2001:470:0:27d::1]
   523 ms23 ms24 ms  10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net 
 [2001:470:0:27e::1]
   618 ms21 ms24 ms  100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net 
 [2001:470:0:72::1]
   716 ms16 ms16 ms  
 asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net 
 [2001:470:0:2c0::2]
   826 ms26 ms26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199
   923 ms24 ms25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2
 10 *** Request timed out.
 1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e
 1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6
 1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7
 1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1
 15 *** Request timed out.
 16 *** Request timed out.
 17 *** Request timed out.
 18 *   42 ms42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4
 IPv4
 C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com
 Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83]
 over a maximum of 30 hops:
   1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1]
   2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net 
 [69.27.173.37]
   3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162
   433 ms33 ms34 ms  be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net 
 [209.63.82.186]
   532 ms32 ms32 ms  equinix01-chi2.amazon.com [206.223.119.98]
   638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36
   732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49
   852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63
   952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69
 10 *** Request timed out.
 11 *** Request timed out.
 1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249
 1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105
 1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
 Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility
 further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775
 
 This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, 
 to expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion tospeedtest.net but 
 might have less than optimal routing to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat 
 topping the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to netflix somewhere in 
 the intermediate path.
 
 Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
 Netflix test during peak evening hours.
 On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
 Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from netflix. Torching it 
 looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses to run 
 the test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Mike Hammett]

*nods* Videos are from caches, web site is from Amazon. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Cassidy B. Larson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:49:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility 

2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 and 205.251.244.235 are both Amazon IPs. 
Netflix uses a lot of EC2 stuff, so you’re not necessarily hitting their 
“cache” when you pull up their website. 








On May 18, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net > wrote: 



Very inaccurate too. 

I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection. 

This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA. 
So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time. 
Not sure where their speed test web app is located. 

IPv6 

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com 

Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4] 
over a maximum of 30 hops: 

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2606:cb80:2:2::1 
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2604:ba00:1:22::1 
3 18 ms 22 ms 22 ms he.net.slix.net [2607:fa18:1:f00::15] 
4 18 ms 18 ms 19 ms 10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net [2001:470:0:27d::1] 
5 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net [2001:470:0:27e::1] 
6 18 ms 21 ms 24 ms 100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:72::1] 
7 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5- 5.core1.lax1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:2c0::2] 
8 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms 2001:428::205:171:3:199 
9 23 ms 24 ms 25 ms 2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2 
10 * * * Request timed out. 
11 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 2620:107:3000::e 
12 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 2620:108:7000::6 
13 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 2620:108:7000::7 
14 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 2620:108:7000::1 
15 * * * Request timed out. 
16 * * * Request timed out. 
17 * * * Request timed out. 
18 * 42 ms 42 ms 2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 

IPv4 

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com 

Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83] 
over a maximum of 30 hops: 

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1] 
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms tg1-8-- 200.br01.lsan.acedc.net [69.27.173.37] 
3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms 208.186.235.162 
4 33 ms 33 ms 34 ms be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net [209.63.82.186] 
5 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms equinix01-chi2.amazon.com [206.223.119.98] 
6 38 ms 42 ms 42 ms 52.95.62.36 
7 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms 52.95.62.49 
8 52 ms 52 ms 52 ms 54.239.42.63 
9 52 ms 52 ms 52 ms 54.239.42.69 
10 * * * Request timed out. 
11 * * * Request timed out. 
12 54 ms 61 ms 67 ms 54.239.110.249 
13 53 ms 53 ms 53 ms 54.239.111.105 
14 53 ms 58 ms 55 ms 205.251.244.235 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility 




further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775 
This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, to 
expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion to speedtest.net but might 
have less than optimal routing to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping the 
traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to netflix somewhere in the intermediate 
path. 
Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
Netflix test during peak evening hours. 



On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke < n...@blastcomm.com > wrote: 


Just came across this https://fast.com . Utility from netflix. Torching it 
looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses to run the 
test. Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload. 

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Mike Hammett]

Your v4 goes to Chicago. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Sterling Jacobson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:45:21 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility 



Very inaccurate too. 

I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection. 

This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA. 
So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time. 
Not sure where their speed test web app is located. 

IPv6 

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com 

Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4] 
over a maximum of 30 hops: 

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2606:cb80:2:2::1 
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2604:ba00:1:22::1 
3 18 ms 22 ms 22 ms he.net.slix.net [2607:fa18:1:f00::15] 
4 18 ms 18 ms 19 ms 10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net [2001:470:0:27d::1] 
5 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net [2001:470:0:27e::1] 
6 18 ms 21 ms 24 ms 100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:72::1] 
7 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:2c0::2] 
8 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms 2001:428::205:171:3:199 
9 23 ms 24 ms 25 ms 2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2 
10 * * * Request timed out. 
11 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 2620:107:3000::e 
12 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 2620:108:7000::6 
13 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 2620:108:7000::7 
14 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 2620:108:7000::1 
15 * * * Request timed out. 
16 * * * Request timed out. 
17 * * * Request timed out. 
18 * 42 ms 42 ms 2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 

IPv4 

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com 

Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83] 
over a maximum of 30 hops: 

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1] 
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net [69.27.173.37] 
3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms 208.186.235.162 
4 33 ms 33 ms 34 ms be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net [209.63.82.186] 
5 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms equinix01-chi2.amazon.com [206.223.119.98] 
6 38 ms 42 ms 42 ms 52.95.62.36 
7 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms 52.95.62.49 
8 52 ms 52 ms 52 ms 54.239.42.63 
9 52 ms 52 ms 52 ms 54.239.42.69 
10 * * * Request timed out. 
11 * * * Request timed out. 
12 54 ms 61 ms 67 ms 54.239.110.249 
13 53 ms 53 ms 53 ms 54.239.111.105 
14 53 ms 58 ms 55 ms 205.251.244.235 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility 




further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775 
This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, to 
expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion to speedtest.net but might 
have less than optimal routing to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping the 
traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to netflix somewhere in the intermediate 
path. 
Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
Netflix test during peak evening hours. 



On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke < n...@blastcomm.com > wrote: 


Just came across this https://fast.com . Utility from netflix. Torching it 
looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses to run the 
test. Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload. 

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Judging from the last 5 posts, no one has yet...
if his test server is inhouse as i think he said - i agree, should be an 
interesting response

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nate Burke 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility


  So then do you get full line speed results from the test?


  On 5/18/2016 5:51 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:

Interesting though, from watching tcpdump while doing a speedtest, I’m 
seeing it hit BOTH of our local on-net Netflix appliances (over IPv6). 




  On May 18, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:


  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 and 205.251.244.235 are both Amazon IPs.  
  Netflix uses a lot of EC2 stuff, so you’re not necessarily hitting their 
“cache” when you pull up their website. 





On May 18, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:


Very inaccurate too.

I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.

This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.
So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.
Not sure where their speed test web app is located.

IPv6

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com

Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1
  2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1
  318 ms22 ms22 ms  he.net.slix.net [2607:fa18:1:f00::15]
  418 ms18 ms19 ms  10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:27d::1]
  523 ms23 ms24 ms  10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net 
[2001:470:0:27e::1]
  618 ms21 ms24 ms  100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:72::1]
  716 ms16 ms16 ms  
asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:2c0::2]
  826 ms26 ms26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199
  923 ms24 ms25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2
10 *** Request timed out.
1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e
1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6
1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7
1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1
15 *** Request timed out.
16 *** Request timed out.
17 *** Request timed out.
18 *   42 ms42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4

IPv4

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com

Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1]
  2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net 
[69.27.173.37]
  3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162
  433 ms33 ms34 ms  be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net 
[209.63.82.186]
  532 ms32 ms32 ms  equinix01-chi2.amazon.com 
[206.223.119.98]
  638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36
  732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49
  852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63
  952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69
10 *** Request timed out.
11 *** Request timed out.
1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249
1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105
1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775

This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of 
view, to expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion tospeedtest.net but 
might have less than optimal routing to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping 
the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to netflix somewhere in the 
intermediate path.

Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this 
new Netflix test during peak evening hours.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
  Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from netflix. 
Torching it looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses 
to run the test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.

Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

yay

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Wright 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game




   

  Chris Wright

  Network Administrator

  Velociter Wireless

  209-838-1221 x115

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:41 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

   

   

  g pro!

   

- Original Message - 

From: Mathew Howard 

To: af 

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:23 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

 

Well, the discussion of conductivity came from a discussion of fiat 
currency (a perfectly logical progression :P)... but how we got onto that 
subject I couldn't say

 

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Chris Wright  wrote:

Quick everyone! Without looking, what was the original topic of this 
thread? 

 

:D

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] XX

 

Same for Thermal conductivity…

 



 

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Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370

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Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Sterling Jacobson]

Yes, and I assume their actual CDNs are closer than that.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 and 205.251.244.235 are both Amazon IPs.
Netflix uses a lot of EC2 stuff, so you’re not necessarily hitting their 
“cache” when you pull up their website.


On May 18, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:

Very inaccurate too.

I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.

This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.
So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.
Not sure where their speed test web app is located.

IPv6

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com

Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1
  2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1
  318 ms22 ms22 ms  he.net.slix.net 
[2607:fa18:1:f00::15]
  418 ms18 ms19 ms  
10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net [2001:470:0:27d::1]
  523 ms23 ms24 ms  
10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net 
[2001:470:0:27e::1]
  618 ms21 ms24 ms  
100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:72::1]
  716 ms16 ms16 ms  
asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net
 [2001:470:0:2c0::2]
  826 ms26 ms26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199
  923 ms24 ms25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2
10 *** Request timed out.
1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e
1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6
1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7
1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1
15 *** Request timed out.
16 *** Request timed out.
17 *** Request timed out.
18 *   42 ms42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4

IPv4

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com

Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  
108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1]
  2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  
tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net [69.27.173.37]
  3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162
  433 ms33 ms34 ms  
be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net 
[209.63.82.186]
  532 ms32 ms32 ms  
equinix01-chi2.amazon.com [206.223.119.98]
  638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36
  732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49
  852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63
  952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69
10 *** Request timed out.
11 *** Request timed out.
1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249
1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105
1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775
This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, to 
expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion 
tospeedtest.net but might have less than optimal routing 
to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE 
link to netflix somewhere in the intermediate path.
Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
Netflix test during peak evening hours.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from 
netflix. Torching it looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP 
Addresses to run the test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Cassidy B. Larson]

Interesting though, from watching tcpdump while doing a speedtest, I’m seeing 
it hit BOTH of our local on-net Netflix appliances (over IPv6).


> On May 18, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
> 
> 2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 and 205.251.244.235 are both Amazon IPs.
> Netflix uses a lot of EC2 stuff, so you’re not necessarily hitting their 
> “cache” when you pull up their website.
> 
> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Very inaccurate too.
>> 
>> I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.
>> 
>> This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.
>> So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.
>> Not sure where their speed test web app is located.
>> 
>> IPv6
>> 
>> C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com 
>> 
>> Tracing route to netflix.com  [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]
>> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>> 
>>   1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1
>>   2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1
>>   318 ms22 ms22 ms  he.net.slix.net  
>> [2607:fa18:1:f00::15]
>>   418 ms18 ms19 ms  10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net 
>>  [2001:470:0:27d::1]
>>   523 ms23 ms24 ms  10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net 
>>  [2001:470:0:27e::1]
>>   618 ms21 ms24 ms  100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net 
>>  [2001:470:0:72::1]
>>   716 ms16 ms16 ms  
>> asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net 
>>  [2001:470:0:2c0::2]
>>   826 ms26 ms26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199
>>   923 ms24 ms25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2
>> 10 *** Request timed out.
>> 1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e
>> 1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6
>> 1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7
>> 1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1
>> 15 *** Request timed out.
>> 16 *** Request timed out.
>> 17 *** Request timed out.
>> 18 *   42 ms42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4
>> 
>> IPv4
>> 
>> C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com 
>> 
>> Tracing route to netflix.com  [54.225.192.83]
>> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>> 
>>   1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  108-165-31-1.avative.net 
>>  [108.165.31.1]
>>   2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net 
>>  [69.27.173.37]
>>   3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162
>>   433 ms33 ms34 ms  be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net 
>>  [209.63.82.186]
>>   532 ms32 ms32 ms  equinix01-chi2.amazon.com 
>>  [206.223.119.98]
>>   638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36
>>   732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49
>>   852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63
>>   952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69
>> 10 *** Request timed out.
>> 11 *** Request timed out.
>> 1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249
>> 1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105
>> 1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com  utility
>> 
>> further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775 
>> 
>> This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, to 
>> expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion tospeedtest.net 
>>  but might have less than optimal routing to Netflix. 
>> Or an ISP that is flat topping the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to 
>> netflix somewhere in the intermediate path.
>> 
>> Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
>> Netflix test during peak evening hours.
>> 
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke > > wrote:
>> Just came across this https://fast.com .  Utility from 
>> netflix. Torching it looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different 
>> IP Addresses to run the test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or 
>> Upload.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

not good...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sterling Jacobson 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility


  Very inaccurate too.

   

  I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.

   

  This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.

  So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.

  Not sure where their speed test web app is located.

   

  IPv6

   

  C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com

   

  Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]

  over a maximum of 30 hops:

   

1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1

2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1

318 ms22 ms22 ms  he.net.slix.net [2607:fa18:1:f00::15]

418 ms18 ms19 ms  10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net [2001:470:0:27d::1]

523 ms23 ms24 ms  10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net [2001:470:0:27e::1]

618 ms21 ms24 ms  100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:72::1]

716 ms16 ms16 ms  
asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:2c0::2]

826 ms26 ms26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199

923 ms24 ms25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2

  10 *** Request timed out.

  1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e

  1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6

  1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7

  1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1

  15 *** Request timed out.

  16 *** Request timed out.

  17 *** Request timed out.

  18 *   42 ms42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4

   

  IPv4

   

  C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com

   

  Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83]

  over a maximum of 30 hops:

   

1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1]

2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net [69.27.173.37]

3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162

433 ms33 ms34 ms  be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net [209.63.82.186]

532 ms32 ms32 ms  equinix01-chi2.amazon.com [206.223.119.98]

638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36

732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49

852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63

952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69

  10 *** Request timed out.

  11 *** Request timed out.

  1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249

  1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105

  1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235

   

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

   

  further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775

  This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, to 
expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion to speedtest.net but might 
have less than optimal routing to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping the 
traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to netflix somewhere in the intermediate 
path. 

  Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
Netflix test during peak evening hours.

   

  On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from netflix. Torching it 
looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses to run the 
test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.

   

Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

[Chris Wright]

[http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w604/billyreams1/winnerwinner_black_zpsa29ce757.gif]

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game


g pro!

- Original Message -
From: Mathew Howard
To: af
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

Well, the discussion of conductivity came from a discussion of fiat currency (a 
perfectly logical progression :P)... but how we got onto that subject I 
couldn't say

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Chris Wright 
mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> wrote:
Quick everyone! Without looking, what was the original topic of this thread?

:D

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Joshaven Mailing Lists
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] XX

Same for Thermal conductivity…

[cid:image002.jpg@01D1B11D.626F6310]

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Nate Burke]

So then do you get full line speed results from the test?

On 5/18/2016 5:51 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
Interesting though, from watching tcpdump while doing a speedtest, I’m 
seeing it hit BOTH of our local on-net Netflix appliances (over IPv6).



On May 18, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Cassidy B. Larson > wrote:


2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 and 205.251.244.235 are both Amazon IPs.
Netflix uses a lot of EC2 stuff, so you’re not necessarily hitting 
their “cache” when you pull up their website.



On May 18, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson > wrote:


Very inaccurate too.
I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.
This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.
So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.
Not sure where their speed test web app is located.
IPv6
C:\Users\Sterling>tracertnetflix.com 
Tracing route tonetflix.com 
[2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]

over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1 <1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 2606:cb80:2:2::1
  2 <1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 2604:ba00:1:22::1
  318 ms22 ms22 ms he.net.slix.net 
[2607:fa18:1:f00::15]
  418 ms18 ms19 ms 10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:27d::1]
  523 ms23 ms24 ms 10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net 
[2001:470:0:27e::1]
  618 ms21 ms24 ms 100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:72::1]
  716 ms16 ms16 ms 
asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:2c0::2]

  826 ms26 ms26 ms 2001:428::205:171:3:199
  923 ms24 ms25 ms 2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2
10 *** Request timed out.
1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e
1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6
1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7
1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1
15 *** Request timed out.
16 *** Request timed out.
17 *** Request timed out.
18 *   42 ms42 ms 2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4
IPv4
C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4netflix.com 
Tracing route tonetflix.com [54.225.192.83]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1 <1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 108-165-31-1.avative.net 
[108.165.31.1]
  2 <1 ms<1 ms<1 ms tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net 
[69.27.173.37]

  3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162
  433 ms33 ms34 ms be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net 
[209.63.82.186]
  532 ms32 ms32 ms equinix01-chi2.amazon.com 
[206.223.119.98]

  638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36
  732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49
  852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63
  952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69
10 *** Request timed out.
11 *** Request timed out.
1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249
1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105
1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]*On Behalf Of*Eric Kuhnke
*Sent:*Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com 
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG]fast.com utility

further discussion:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775

This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of 
view, to expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion 
tospeedtest.net but might have less than 
optimal routing to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping the 
traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to netflix somewhere in the 
intermediate path.


Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs 
this new Netflix test during peak evening hours.
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke > wrote:


Just came across thishttps://fast.com .
Utility from netflix. Torching it looks like it opens 3 HTTPS
connections to 3 different IP Addresses to run the test.  Only
reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Cassidy B. Larson]

2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 and 205.251.244.235 are both Amazon IPs.
Netflix uses a lot of EC2 stuff, so you’re not necessarily hitting their 
“cache” when you pull up their website.


> On May 18, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> Very inaccurate too.
> 
> I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.
> 
> This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.
> So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.
> Not sure where their speed test web app is located.
> 
> IPv6
> 
> C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com 
> 
> Tracing route to netflix.com  [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
> 
>   1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1
>   2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1
>   318 ms22 ms22 ms  he.net.slix.net  
> [2607:fa18:1:f00::15]
>   418 ms18 ms19 ms  10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net 
>  [2001:470:0:27d::1]
>   523 ms23 ms24 ms  10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net 
>  [2001:470:0:27e::1]
>   618 ms21 ms24 ms  100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net 
>  [2001:470:0:72::1]
>   716 ms16 ms16 ms  
> asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net 
>  [2001:470:0:2c0::2]
>   826 ms26 ms26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199
>   923 ms24 ms25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2
> 10 *** Request timed out.
> 1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e
> 1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6
> 1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7
> 1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1
> 15 *** Request timed out.
> 16 *** Request timed out.
> 17 *** Request timed out.
> 18 *   42 ms42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4
> 
> IPv4
> 
> C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com 
> 
> Tracing route to netflix.com  [54.225.192.83]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
> 
>   1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  108-165-31-1.avative.net 
>  [108.165.31.1]
>   2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net 
>  [69.27.173.37]
>   3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162
>   433 ms33 ms34 ms  be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net 
>  [209.63.82.186]
>   532 ms32 ms32 ms  equinix01-chi2.amazon.com 
>  [206.223.119.98]
>   638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36
>   732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49
>   852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63
>   952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69
> 10 *** Request timed out.
> 11 *** Request timed out.
> 1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249
> 1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105
> 1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235
> 
> 
> 
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com  utility
> 
> further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775 
> 
> This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, to 
> expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion tospeedtest.net 
>  but might have less than optimal routing to Netflix. 
> Or an ISP that is flat topping the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to 
> netflix somewhere in the intermediate path.
> 
> Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
> Netflix test during peak evening hours.
> 
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke  > wrote:
> Just came across this https://fast.com .  Utility from 
> netflix. Torching it looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different 
> IP Addresses to run the test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or 
> Upload.

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Sterling Jacobson]

Very inaccurate too.

I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.

This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.
So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.
Not sure where their speed test web app is located.

IPv6

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com

Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1
  2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1
  318 ms22 ms22 ms  he.net.slix.net [2607:fa18:1:f00::15]
  418 ms18 ms19 ms  10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net [2001:470:0:27d::1]
  523 ms23 ms24 ms  10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net [2001:470:0:27e::1]
  618 ms21 ms24 ms  100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:72::1]
  716 ms16 ms16 ms  
asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:2c0::2]
  826 ms26 ms26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199
  923 ms24 ms25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2
10 *** Request timed out.
1142 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:107:3000::e
1242 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::6
1342 ms42 ms43 ms  2620:108:7000::7
1442 ms42 ms42 ms  2620:108:7000::1
15 *** Request timed out.
16 *** Request timed out.
17 *** Request timed out.
18 *   42 ms42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4

IPv4

C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com

Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1]
  2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net [69.27.173.37]
  3 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms  208.186.235.162
  433 ms33 ms34 ms  be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net [209.63.82.186]
  532 ms32 ms32 ms  equinix01-chi2.amazon.com [206.223.119.98]
  638 ms42 ms42 ms  52.95.62.36
  732 ms32 ms32 ms  52.95.62.49
  852 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.63
  952 ms52 ms52 ms  54.239.42.69
10 *** Request timed out.
11 *** Request timed out.
1254 ms61 ms67 ms  54.239.110.249
1353 ms53 ms53 ms  54.239.111.105
1453 ms58 ms55 ms  205.251.244.235



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775
This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view, to 
expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion to 
speedtest.net but might have less than optimal routing to 
Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link 
to netflix somewhere in the intermediate path.
Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new 
Netflix test during peak evening hours.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from netflix. Torching it 
looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses to run the 
test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.

Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

g pro!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game


  Well, the discussion of conductivity came from a discussion of fiat currency 
(a perfectly logical progression :P)... but how we got onto that subject I 
couldn't say



  On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Chris Wright  wrote:

Quick everyone! Without looking, what was the original topic of this 
thread? 



:D



Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] XX



Same for Thermal conductivity…







Sincerely,

Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370

supp...@joshaven.com

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Eric Kuhnke]

further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775

This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of view,
to expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion to speedtest.net but
might have less than optimal routing to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat
topping the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to netflix somewhere in the
intermediate path.

Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this new
Netflix test during peak evening hours.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from netflix. Torching
> it looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses to
> run the test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.
>

[AFMUG] gee, thanks netflix

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

just what we need. another speedtest site :)


www.fast.com

Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

[Chuck McCown]

Something about Nixon...

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:23 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

Well, the discussion of conductivity came from a discussion of fiat currency (a 
perfectly logical progression :P)... but how we got onto that subject I 
couldn't say


On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Chris Wright  wrote:

  Quick everyone! Without looking, what was the original topic of this thread? 



  :D



  Chris Wright

  Network Administrator

  Velociter Wireless

  209-838-1221 x115



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:40 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] XX



  Same for Thermal conductivity…







  Sincerely,

  Joshaven Potter
  Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
  Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370

  supp...@joshaven.com

[AFMUG] fast.com utility

[Nate Burke]

Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from netflix. Torching 
it looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses 
to run the test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.

Re: [AFMUG] I want to play a game

[Mathew Howard]

Well, the discussion of conductivity came from a discussion of fiat
currency (a perfectly logical progression :P)... but how we got onto that
subject I couldn't say

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Chris Wright  wrote:

> Quick everyone! Without looking, what was the original topic of this
> thread?
>
>
>
> :D
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Joshaven Mailing
> Lists
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:40 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] XX
>
>
>
> Same for Thermal conductivity…
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>
> supp...@joshaven.com
>
>
>

[AFMUG] I want to play a game

[Chris Wright]

Quick everyone! Without looking, what was the original topic of this thread?

:D

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] XX

Same for Thermal conductivity…

[cid:image001.jpg@01D1B118.1B41E5D0]

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Virus Discussion - ispradio.com

[Josh Reynolds]

Yup...
On May 18, 2016 4:43 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> The sad thing is, even if people couldn't be bothered to update firmware,
> most (if not all) of this could've been avoided if they secured their
> networks properly.
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Simon Westlake 
> wrote:
>
>> I think it's good - obviously there's people who hadn't updated for a
>> year even though this was a critical issue. The more exposure, the better!
>>
>> On 5/18/2016 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> FFS why is this even a thing
>>
>> (Not your show, this discussion.)
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dennis Burgess > > wrote:
>>
>>> RIGHT NOW! www.ispradio.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: DennisBurgessSignature]
>>>
>>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Virus Discussion - ispradio.com

[Simon Westlake]

I think it is a good thing to take away from this. Nothing is secure, 
and if you don't implement access controls, you are going to be 
successfully attacked eventually.


No external access to management interfaces, block access to management 
interfaces internally if the source IP is not trusted, etc, etc..


On 5/18/2016 4:43 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
The sad thing is, even if people couldn't be bothered to update 
firmware, most (if not all) of this could've been avoided if they 
secured their networks properly.


On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Simon Westlake > wrote:


I think it's good - obviously there's people who hadn't updated
for a year even though this was a critical issue. The more
exposure, the better!


On 5/18/2016 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

FFS why is this even a thing

(Not your show, this discussion.)

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dennis Burgess
mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:

RIGHT NOW! www.ispradio.com 

DennisBurgessSignature

www.linktechs.net  – 314-735-0270
x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net





-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247 
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Virus Discussion - ispradio.com

[Mathew Howard]

The sad thing is, even if people couldn't be bothered to update firmware,
most (if not all) of this could've been avoided if they secured their
networks properly.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Simon Westlake 
wrote:

> I think it's good - obviously there's people who hadn't updated for a year
> even though this was a critical issue. The more exposure, the better!
>
> On 5/18/2016 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> FFS why is this even a thing
>
> (Not your show, this discussion.)
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dennis Burgess 
> wrote:
>
>> RIGHT NOW! www.ispradio.com
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: DennisBurgessSignature]
>>
>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

That is correct
On May 18, 2016 4:33 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> I only have one server, i set it up as a testbed and to get all the
> networks firmwares up to date. I need to build the real server, it will be
> on a different IP and all that good stuff, I just am trying to confirm the
> correct method of removing the devices from this one before configuring the
> new one.
> Just making sure its,
>  rt click the device, stop monitoring
> rt click the device - more - remove
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> For that one server you removed it from, yes. There may be other entries
>> on the device.
>>
>> I am somewhat dense at times, but am I not being clear somewhere? :/
>> On May 18, 2016 4:25 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> so if i do - stop monitoring, then remove its cleans up the device?
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 For every aircontrol or aircontrol 2 server and ip you connect to an
 airmax device, is gets an entry. Max is I think 5 entries. Unless you
 properly remove the device from the aircontrol or aircontrol2 server (or
 the server bites the dust), it (the device) will continuously try reaching
 that server until you manually go into each device and run the 3 or 4 lines
 of code per each sever entry... or you can script it, which is normally
 okay  but somewhat risky.


 On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:23 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I cant find it in the archives.
> are you saying even if i remove it from this existing installation of
> ac2 the device will try connecting to it anyway? i just did a port forward
> on the office firewall to my desktop for testing
>
>
> and does anybody know how to get this tough switch off this console,
> everytime it comes into the visible list it freaks it out so i cant do
> anything with the other devices
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Eh, it modifies some mca attributes. It's not all in the config, but
>> still should be easy to do in ansible.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Mike Hammett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I have some basics of ansible, it's easy to clear anything
>>> out of the config file for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:18:42 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> That only clears out the current monitoring session AFAIK, it
>>> doesn't remove entries from previous aircontrol or aircontrol2 server
>>> instances. I created a script to do this previously that took a flat 
>>> file
>>> ip list input.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Jesse DuPont <
>>> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>>>
 In the AC2 client connected to your test server, right-click each
 monitored device, choose Stop Monitoring. After that, right-click each 
 one
 and choose Remove.

 *Jesse DuPont*

 Network Architect
 email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
 Celerity Networks LLC

 Celerity Broadband LLC
 Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc

 Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
 On 5/17/16 5:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 whats the method to clear these ones out effectively


 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> HNNNGGG don't do that.
>
> Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you
> managed devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to 
> that
> aircontrol server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of 
> ARP
> every 60 seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.
>
> It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get
> them clean.
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I only have one server, i set it up as a testbed and to get all the
networks firmwares up to date. I need to build the real server, it will be
on a different IP and all that good stuff, I just am trying to confirm the
correct method of removing the devices from this one before configuring the
new one.
Just making sure its,
 rt click the device, stop monitoring
rt click the device - more - remove

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> For that one server you removed it from, yes. There may be other entries
> on the device.
>
> I am somewhat dense at times, but am I not being clear somewhere? :/
> On May 18, 2016 4:25 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> so if i do - stop monitoring, then remove its cleans up the device?
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For every aircontrol or aircontrol 2 server and ip you connect to an
>>> airmax device, is gets an entry. Max is I think 5 entries. Unless you
>>> properly remove the device from the aircontrol or aircontrol2 server (or
>>> the server bites the dust), it (the device) will continuously try reaching
>>> that server until you manually go into each device and run the 3 or 4 lines
>>> of code per each sever entry... or you can script it, which is normally
>>> okay  but somewhat risky.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:23 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I cant find it in the archives.
 are you saying even if i remove it from this existing installation of
 ac2 the device will try connecting to it anyway? i just did a port forward
 on the office firewall to my desktop for testing


 and does anybody know how to get this tough switch off this console,
 everytime it comes into the visible list it freaks it out so i cant do
 anything with the other devices

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

> Eh, it modifies some mca attributes. It's not all in the config, but
> still should be easy to do in ansible.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
>> Now that I have some basics of ansible, it's easy to clear anything
>> out of the config file for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:18:42 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> That only clears out the current monitoring session AFAIK, it doesn't
>> remove entries from previous aircontrol or aircontrol2 server instances. 
>> I
>> created a script to do this previously that took a flat file ip list 
>> input.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Jesse DuPont <
>> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In the AC2 client connected to your test server, right-click each
>>> monitored device, choose Stop Monitoring. After that, right-click each 
>>> one
>>> and choose Remove.
>>>
>>> *Jesse DuPont*
>>>
>>> Network Architect
>>> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
>>> Celerity Networks LLC
>>>
>>> Celerity Broadband LLC
>>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>>>
>>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
>>> On 5/17/16 5:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> whats the method to clear these ones out effectively
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds >> > wrote:
>>>
 HNNNGGG don't do that.

 Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you
 managed devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that
 aircontrol server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP
 every 60 seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.

 It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get
 them clean.

 Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it.
 Linux works best (by far).​

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

Re: [AFMUG] College Kids are Home

[Josh Reynolds]

Incremental fiber backhaul upgrades require no tower work :P
On May 18, 2016 4:29 PM, "Craig Schmaderer" 
wrote:

> It's funny since I started putting fiber in the ground four years ago it's
> like I have two personalities I bitch when people use bandwidth on my
> wireless network but I actually advertise streaming and 4K services and I'm
> happy when people are using it on my fiber network.   We actually celebrate
> when we hit a new bandwidth threshold on our fiber network
>
> Craig Schmaderer
> Cell 402-380-1245
> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:28 AM -0700, "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" <
> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
>
> The beauty of living in a college town is that bandwidth drops when school
> gets out. :)
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner
> Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> j...@brazoswifi.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
> Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:39 AM
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] College Kids are Home
>
> Almost 2x increase in traffic every night this week over last week. I'm
> guessing this is going to be the new summer norm
>

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy FSK Log Error

[George Skorup]

I believe PAREQ is power adjustment request for SM Tx power control. The 
AP tells each SM what output power they should be transmitting at to 
meet/no exceed the uplink Rx power threshold set on the AP. Happens 
every two minutes.


On 5/18/2016 8:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote:


Hey guys,

Just scanning the FSK logs this morning and noticed these errors.  
What�s the story on them?


Running FW 13.4.1

UTC : Event: SES_MSG, MsgType: PAREQ, NewState: IN SESSION, Flag 0
repeated 18 times

I have not checked our OFDM AP�s yet.

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Re: [AFMUG] College Kids are Home

[Craig Schmaderer]

It's funny since I started putting fiber in the ground four years ago it's like 
I have two personalities I bitch when people use bandwidth on my wireless 
network but I actually advertise streaming and 4K services and I'm happy when 
people are using it on my fiber network.   We actually celebrate when we hit a 
new bandwidth threshold on our fiber network

Craig Schmaderer
Cell 402-380-1245
Skywave Wireless, Inc.




On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:28 AM -0700, "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:

The beauty of living in a college town is that bandwidth drops when school gets 
out. :)

Jim Bouse
Owner
Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
j...@brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:39 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] College Kids are Home

Almost 2x increase in traffic every night this week over last week. I'm 
guessing this is going to be the new summer norm

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Josh Reynolds]

For that one server you removed it from, yes. There may be other entries on
the device.

I am somewhat dense at times, but am I not being clear somewhere? :/
On May 18, 2016 4:25 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> so if i do - stop monitoring, then remove its cleans up the device?
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> For every aircontrol or aircontrol 2 server and ip you connect to an
>> airmax device, is gets an entry. Max is I think 5 entries. Unless you
>> properly remove the device from the aircontrol or aircontrol2 server (or
>> the server bites the dust), it (the device) will continuously try reaching
>> that server until you manually go into each device and run the 3 or 4 lines
>> of code per each sever entry... or you can script it, which is normally
>> okay  but somewhat risky.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:23 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I cant find it in the archives.
>>> are you saying even if i remove it from this existing installation of
>>> ac2 the device will try connecting to it anyway? i just did a port forward
>>> on the office firewall to my desktop for testing
>>>
>>>
>>> and does anybody know how to get this tough switch off this console,
>>> everytime it comes into the visible list it freaks it out so i cant do
>>> anything with the other devices
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Eh, it modifies some mca attributes. It's not all in the config, but
 still should be easy to do in ansible.

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Now that I have some basics of ansible, it's easy to clear anything
> out of the config file for me.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:18:42 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> That only clears out the current monitoring session AFAIK, it doesn't
> remove entries from previous aircontrol or aircontrol2 server instances. I
> created a script to do this previously that took a flat file ip list 
> input.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Jesse DuPont <
> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>
>> In the AC2 client connected to your test server, right-click each
>> monitored device, choose Stop Monitoring. After that, right-click each 
>> one
>> and choose Remove.
>>
>> *Jesse DuPont*
>>
>> Network Architect
>> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
>> Celerity Networks LLC
>>
>> Celerity Broadband LLC
>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>>
>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
>> On 5/17/16 5:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> whats the method to clear these ones out effectively
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HNNNGGG don't do that.
>>>
>>> Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you
>>> managed devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that
>>> aircontrol server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP
>>> every 60 seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.
>>>
>>> It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get
>>> them clean.
>>>
>>> Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it.
>>> Linux works best (by far).​
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another
 machine and kill this one, what do i need to do to control the devices 
 from
 that?

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds <
 j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.
>
> kill them with fire anyway
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thats what i did, didnt find anything
>>
>> just found out, you apprentl

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

Same for Thermal conductivity…



Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Joshaven Mailing Lists  
> wrote:
> 
> Silver is more conductive then Gold however gold is often better a conductor 
> choice for situations where corrosion is a concern. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co 
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com 
> 
> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Robert Andrews > > wrote:
>> 
>> Electrical Conductivity or Thermal Conductivity...   I think Gold is higher 
>> than Silver for Thermal...   And Titanium is higher than both...
>> 
>> On 05/17/2016 02:57 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>> good point chuck, i should have researched that before commenting.  i
>>> guess it's used in electronics because it doesn't oxidize like the other
>>> metals??
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown >> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>>Silver has it beat for conductivity.
>>>Carbon (graphene form only)
>>>Silver
>>>Copper
>>>Gold
>>>Aluminum
>>>Calcium
>>>Tungsten
>>>Zinc
>>>Nickel
>>>Lithium
>>>Iron
>>>etc
>>>*From:* Sean Heskett >
>>>*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:37 PM
>>>*To:* af@afmug.com  >> >
>>>*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>>Exactly my point Cameron ;-)
>>> 
>>>Before Nixon
>>>1oz gold == $35US or inversely $1 == 1/35oz gold...seems pretty
>>>standard to me.
>>>Also your own quote states "The government held the $35 per ounce
>>>price until August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced
>>>that the United States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a
>>>fixed value, *thus completely abandoning the gold standard*."
>>> 
>>>After Nixon
>>>Gold and the dollar float.  Gold is now traded as a commodity as it
>>>should. Otherwise the world economy is tied to a very finite amount
>>>(183,600 tonnes) of a shiny rock whose real value is it's chemical
>>>element properties. It is the best (naturally occurring) conductor
>>>of electricity and the best reflector of infrared heat (amongst many
>>>other properties).
>>>1/256,280oz gold (2 cents at todays prices ;)
>>>-Sean
>>>On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Cameron Crum >> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>Not sure what history books you are reading, but On June 5,
>>>1933, the United States went off the gold standard, a monetary
>>>system in which currency is backed by gold, when Congress
>>>enacted a joint resolution nullifying the right of creditors to
>>>demand payment in gold. The United States had been on a gold
>>>standard since 1879, except for an embargo on gold exports
>>>during World War I, but bank failures during the Great
>>>Depression of the 1930s frightened the public into hoarding
>>>gold, making the policy untenable.
>>> 
>>>The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15,
>>>1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the United
>>>States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value,
>>>thus completely abandoning the gold standard. In 1974, President
>>>Gerald Ford signed legislation that permitted Americans again to
>>>own gold bullion.
>>>On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sean Heskett >> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a
>>>good thing because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US
>>>alone there is no way our current economy would operate
>>>being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone in your pocket would
>>>cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it :-/
>>>Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.
>>>-Sean
>>> 
>>> 
>>>On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman
>>>mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>>You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but
>>>rather a fictitious system controlled by private banks.
>>>Thanks, FDR.
>>>Josh Luthman
>>>Office: 937-552-2340 >
>>>Direct: 937-552-2343 >
>>>1100 Wayne St
>>>Suite 1337
>>>Troy, OH 45373
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

Silver is more conductive then Gold however gold is often better a conductor 
choice for situations where corrosion is a concern. 



Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On May 18, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> Electrical Conductivity or Thermal Conductivity...   I think Gold is higher 
> than Silver for Thermal...   And Titanium is higher than both...
> 
> On 05/17/2016 02:57 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>> good point chuck, i should have researched that before commenting.  i
>> guess it's used in electronics because it doesn't oxidize like the other
>> metals??
>> 
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown > > wrote:
>> 
>>Silver has it beat for conductivity.
>>Carbon (graphene form only)
>>Silver
>>Copper
>>Gold
>>Aluminum
>>Calcium
>>Tungsten
>>Zinc
>>Nickel
>>Lithium
>>Iron
>>etc
>>*From:* Sean Heskett 
>>*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:37 PM
>>*To:* af@afmug.com 
>>*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
>>Exactly my point Cameron ;-)
>> 
>>Before Nixon
>>1oz gold == $35US or inversely $1 == 1/35oz gold...seems pretty
>>standard to me.
>>Also your own quote states "The government held the $35 per ounce
>>price until August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced
>>that the United States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a
>>fixed value, *thus completely abandoning the gold standard*."
>> 
>>After Nixon
>>Gold and the dollar float.  Gold is now traded as a commodity as it
>>should. Otherwise the world economy is tied to a very finite amount
>>(183,600 tonnes) of a shiny rock whose real value is it's chemical
>>element properties. It is the best (naturally occurring) conductor
>>of electricity and the best reflector of infrared heat (amongst many
>>other properties).
>>1/256,280oz gold (2 cents at todays prices ;)
>>-Sean
>>On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Cameron Crum >> wrote:
>> 
>>Not sure what history books you are reading, but On June 5,
>>1933, the United States went off the gold standard, a monetary
>>system in which currency is backed by gold, when Congress
>>enacted a joint resolution nullifying the right of creditors to
>>demand payment in gold. The United States had been on a gold
>>standard since 1879, except for an embargo on gold exports
>>during World War I, but bank failures during the Great
>>Depression of the 1930s frightened the public into hoarding
>>gold, making the policy untenable.
>> 
>>The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15,
>>1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the United
>>States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value,
>>thus completely abandoning the gold standard. In 1974, President
>>Gerald Ford signed legislation that permitted Americans again to
>>own gold bullion.
>>On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sean Heskett >> wrote:
>> 
>>Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a
>>good thing because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US
>>alone there is no way our current economy would operate
>>being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone in your pocket would
>>cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it :-/
>>Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.
>>-Sean
>> 
>> 
>>On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman
>>>> wrote:
>> 
>>You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but
>>rather a fictitious system controlled by private banks.
>>Thanks, FDR.
>>Josh Luthman
>>Office: 937-552-2340 
>>Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>1100 Wayne St
>>Suite 1337
>>Troy, OH 45373
>>On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman
>> wrote:
>> 
>>That is s sad
>>On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman
>> wrote:
>> 
>>Who care about P&L?  It's stocks.
>>AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.
>>There is no real correlation between stocks and
>>how the company operates.
>>Josh Luthman
>>Office: 937-552-2340 
>>Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>1100 Wayne St
>>Suite 1337
>>Troy, OH 45373
>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I cant find it in the archives.
are you saying even if i remove it from this existing installation of ac2
the device will try connecting to it anyway? i just did a port forward on
the office firewall to my desktop for testing


and does anybody know how to get this tough switch off this console,
everytime it comes into the visible list it freaks it out so i cant do
anything with the other devices

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Eh, it modifies some mca attributes. It's not all in the config, but still
> should be easy to do in ansible.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Now that I have some basics of ansible, it's easy to clear anything out
>> of the config file for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:18:42 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>
>> That only clears out the current monitoring session AFAIK, it doesn't
>> remove entries from previous aircontrol or aircontrol2 server instances. I
>> created a script to do this previously that took a flat file ip list input.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Jesse DuPont <
>> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In the AC2 client connected to your test server, right-click each
>>> monitored device, choose Stop Monitoring. After that, right-click each one
>>> and choose Remove.
>>>
>>> *Jesse DuPont*
>>>
>>> Network Architect
>>> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
>>> Celerity Networks LLC
>>>
>>> Celerity Broadband LLC
>>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>>>
>>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
>>> On 5/17/16 5:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> whats the method to clear these ones out effectively
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 HNNNGGG don't do that.

 Every time you spin up and then kill an aircontrol server that you
 managed devices from, those devices will FOREVER try and report to that
 aircontrol server. Up to 4 or 5 per device. That generates a lot of ARP
 every 60 seconds or so when those servers don't exist anymore.

 It takes manual intervention via scripting on each device to get them
 clean.

 Put up a real server / vm, associate devices, and be done with it.
 Linux works best (by far).​

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> this was just a test install of ac2, if i reinstall on another machine
> and kill this one, what do i need to do to control the devices from that?
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> nothing monitors toughswitches. not really.
>>
>> kill them with fire anyway
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> thats what i did, didnt find anything
>>>
>>> just found out, you apprently should not add a toghswitch, the UI is
>>> hanging now...thats the ubnt ive come to know :-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling <
>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode
 and just type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, "
 and so on.



 -Ty

 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add
> anything. I have to manually add the device
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <
> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things
>> about running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every 
>> night so I
>> have monitoring of all radios from the start.
>> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple
>>> configuration. UBNT and beta together always scares me, but this is 
>>> a slick

Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock

[Robert Andrews]

Electrical Conductivity or Thermal Conductivity...   I think Gold is 
higher than Silver for Thermal...   And Titanium is higher than both...


On 05/17/2016 02:57 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

good point chuck, i should have researched that before commenting.  i
guess it's used in electronics because it doesn't oxidize like the other
metals??

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Silver has it beat for conductivity.
Carbon (graphene form only)
Silver
Copper
Gold
Aluminum
Calcium
Tungsten
Zinc
Nickel
Lithium
Iron
etc
*From:* Sean Heskett 
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPRO stock
Exactly my point Cameron ;-)

Before Nixon
1oz gold == $35US or inversely $1 == 1/35oz gold...seems pretty
standard to me.
Also your own quote states "The government held the $35 per ounce
price until August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced
that the United States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a
fixed value, *thus completely abandoning the gold standard*."

After Nixon
Gold and the dollar float.  Gold is now traded as a commodity as it
should. Otherwise the world economy is tied to a very finite amount
(183,600 tonnes) of a shiny rock whose real value is it's chemical
element properties. It is the best (naturally occurring) conductor
of electricity and the best reflector of infrared heat (amongst many
other properties).
1/256,280oz gold (2 cents at todays prices ;)
-Sean
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Cameron Crum mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:

Not sure what history books you are reading, but On June 5,
1933, the United States went off the gold standard, a monetary
system in which currency is backed by gold, when Congress
enacted a joint resolution nullifying the right of creditors to
demand payment in gold. The United States had been on a gold
standard since 1879, except for an embargo on gold exports
during World War I, but bank failures during the Great
Depression of the 1930s frightened the public into hoarding
gold, making the policy untenable.

The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15,
1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the United
States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value,
thus completely abandoning the gold standard. In 1974, President
Gerald Ford signed legislation that permitted Americans again to
own gold bullion.
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:

Actually Nixon got us off the gold standard.  And it's a
good thing because with an $18trillion GDP for just the US
alone there is no way our current economy would operate
being tied to a shiny rock.  That phone in your pocket would
cost $1million or more just from the gold inside of it :-/
Leave the shiny rocks to the hippies at EDM festivals lol.
-Sean


On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

You think that's bad?  The USD isn't backed by gold but
rather a fictitious system controlled by private banks.
Thanks, FDR.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Lewis Bergman
 wrote:

That is s sad
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman
 wrote:

Who care about P&L?  It's stocks.
AAPL is one of the biggest companies out there.
There is no real correlation between stocks and
how the company operates.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Lewis Bergman
 wrote:

Yep. Which is why they both make me nervous.
You can't ever guess where those types will
go by looking at balance sheets and P&L.
Although to tell the truth, it had been
pretty difficult to do that with any stock
for a long time.


On Tue, May 17, 2016, 1:57 PM

Re: [AFMUG] College Kids are Home

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

The beauty of living in a college town is that bandwidth drops when school gets 
out. :)

Jim Bouse
Owner
Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
j...@brazoswifi.com 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:39 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] College Kids are Home

Almost 2x increase in traffic every night this week over last week. I'm 
guessing this is going to be the new summer norm

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Virus Discussion - ispradio.com

[Simon Westlake]

I think it's good - obviously there's people who hadn't updated for a 
year even though this was a critical issue. The more exposure, the better!



On 5/18/2016 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

FFS why is this even a thing

(Not your show, this discussion.)

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dennis Burgess 
mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:


RIGHT NOW! www.ispradio.com 

DennisBurgessSignature

www.linktechs.net  – 314-735-0270 x103
 – dmburg...@linktechs.net





--
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Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
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The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Virus Discussion - ispradio.com

[Josh Reynolds]

FFS why is this even a thing

(Not your show, this discussion.)

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dennis Burgess 
wrote:

> RIGHT NOW! www.ispradio.com
>
>
>
> [image: DennisBurgessSignature]
>
> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>

[AFMUG] UBNT Virus Discussion - ispradio.com

[Dennis Burgess]

RIGHT NOW! www.ispradio.com

[DennisBurgessSignature]
www.linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 x103 - 
dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[Mathew Howard]

That's good news! These sound like they're going to be exactly what I
want... well, the 12 port version is, but the 4 port will do for now.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm sort of working on the rackmount.
>
> What I have powered on on the bench is the new 4 port gigabit
> powerinjector+sync.  I have a 450i, a 450, an airfiber24, and some random
> 24v ubnt radio all powered on at  the same time with straight through
> cables.  2 power busses,  each port individually jumperable.Firmware is
> done,  cases show up in a couple of weeks, and it's shipping shortly
> thereafter.  They should be up on the website this week for preorders.
>
> Once those  are out, I mainly need to just reformat that same circuit into
> the rackmount and 12 port form factor.
> On May 17, 2016 6:46 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
>> We're going to be retrofitting some sites and installing some old Trango
>> ApexPlus radios. Going to inject with GigE-POE-APC's. I was hoping to have
>> remote power control capability since we're going to be building up
>> completely new cabinets anyway. Not only the remote power control, but
>> getting rid of the glass fuses as well. I would be fine with a single port
>> injector version for the crazy -48 on all pairs, return on shield POE
>> scheme with the ApexPlus/Lynx. I imagine that has the same issue as the -48
>> PDU. Oh well, I can leave them old school until you can come up with
>> something. I have 14 of these things, so it'd be nice to have something
>> eventually.
>>
>> BTW, I'll be powering these from a 48-48 RSD which is then fed from a
>> Traco +48 TSP+BCM UPS.
>>
>> Honestly, I'd rather have the rack mount 16/18 port universal sync
>> injectors right now. So if you're working on that, don't worry about this.
>> :)
>>
>> P.S. I had an Exalt radio up and crash in a thunderstorm last week. PDU
>> feeding a GigE-POE-APC. Port didn't trip, radio just quit. Went from 520ma
>> utilization to about 150ma. I'm thinking soft lock. PDU saved me from an
>> hour and a half drive. That's where I was going with this. I hate driving
>> for hours just to power-cycle some piece of shit radio. So everywhere we
>> have these goddamn Exalts is getting either a PDU or your new universal
>> injector, 12 port DIN or rack mount. Gotta have it. Had another one lock up
>> earlier that day, and it was on its own 802.3at brick, but it was only 5
>> minutes from my house. Still pissed me off.
>>
>> On 5/17/2016 7:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>
>> Just got my nose deeply into R&D for other things.
>>
>> The board for the PDU's was designed so we could (at least in theory)
>> build a -48V version.  The underlying issue with it is that it would
>> require power from a base unit to power up any radios - since we need
>> positive power to run the circuitry.
>>
>> If you really really really really want one, I guess we could build one
>> in the -48V style.   I'd have to look at see what parts we'd have to bring
>> in to make it though.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:11 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
 Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the past. Is
 this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com |  
>> http://www.packetflux.com
>> 
>>   
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] College Kids are Home

[Ken Hohhof]

Taking online summer courses no doubt.  Or applying for jobs.  Maybe 
researching political candidates so they can be informed voters in November. 
Or doing a tech startup from their parents basement, so they can help grow 
the local economy.  That's what people do with the Internet, right?  And why 
it's more important than air, water, food and shelter.



-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:39 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] College Kids are Home

Almost 2x increase in traffic every night this week over last week. I'm
guessing this is going to be the new summer norm 

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[Gino Villarini]

sorry to hijack this thread, but is the site monitor generator controller
not available anymore? it is not available at the store for purchase

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm sort of working on the rackmount.
>
> What I have powered on on the bench is the new 4 port gigabit
> powerinjector+sync.  I have a 450i, a 450, an airfiber24, and some random
> 24v ubnt radio all powered on at  the same time with straight through
> cables.  2 power busses,  each port individually jumperable.Firmware is
> done,  cases show up in a couple of weeks, and it's shipping shortly
> thereafter.  They should be up on the website this week for preorders.
>
> Once those  are out, I mainly need to just reformat that same circuit into
> the rackmount and 12 port form factor.
> On May 17, 2016 6:46 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
>> We're going to be retrofitting some sites and installing some old Trango
>> ApexPlus radios. Going to inject with GigE-POE-APC's. I was hoping to have
>> remote power control capability since we're going to be building up
>> completely new cabinets anyway. Not only the remote power control, but
>> getting rid of the glass fuses as well. I would be fine with a single port
>> injector version for the crazy -48 on all pairs, return on shield POE
>> scheme with the ApexPlus/Lynx. I imagine that has the same issue as the -48
>> PDU. Oh well, I can leave them old school until you can come up with
>> something. I have 14 of these things, so it'd be nice to have something
>> eventually.
>>
>> BTW, I'll be powering these from a 48-48 RSD which is then fed from a
>> Traco +48 TSP+BCM UPS.
>>
>> Honestly, I'd rather have the rack mount 16/18 port universal sync
>> injectors right now. So if you're working on that, don't worry about this.
>> :)
>>
>> P.S. I had an Exalt radio up and crash in a thunderstorm last week. PDU
>> feeding a GigE-POE-APC. Port didn't trip, radio just quit. Went from 520ma
>> utilization to about 150ma. I'm thinking soft lock. PDU saved me from an
>> hour and a half drive. That's where I was going with this. I hate driving
>> for hours just to power-cycle some piece of shit radio. So everywhere we
>> have these goddamn Exalts is getting either a PDU or your new universal
>> injector, 12 port DIN or rack mount. Gotta have it. Had another one lock up
>> earlier that day, and it was on its own 802.3at brick, but it was only 5
>> minutes from my house. Still pissed me off.
>>
>> On 5/17/2016 7:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>
>> Just got my nose deeply into R&D for other things.
>>
>> The board for the PDU's was designed so we could (at least in theory)
>> build a -48V version.  The underlying issue with it is that it would
>> require power from a base unit to power up any radios - since we need
>> positive power to run the circuitry.
>>
>> If you really really really really want one, I guess we could build one
>> in the -48V style.   I'd have to look at see what parts we'd have to bring
>> in to make it though.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:11 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
 Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the past. Is
 this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com |  
>> http://www.packetflux.com
>> 
>>   
>>
>>
>>

[AFMUG] College Kids are Home

[Nate Burke]

Almost 2x increase in traffic every night this week over last week. I'm 
guessing this is going to be the new summer norm

[AFMUG] Canopy FSK Log Error

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

Just scanning the FSK logs this morning and noticed these errors.  What's
the story on them?

 

Running FW 13.4.1

 

UTC : Event: SES_MSG, MsgType: PAREQ, NewState: IN SESSION, Flag 0
repeated 18 times

 

I have not checked our OFDM AP's yet.

 

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
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Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux -48 PDU?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Well, I'm sort of working on the rackmount.

What I have powered on on the bench is the new 4 port gigabit
powerinjector+sync.  I have a 450i, a 450, an airfiber24, and some random
24v ubnt radio all powered on at  the same time with straight through
cables.  2 power busses,  each port individually jumperable.Firmware is
done,  cases show up in a couple of weeks, and it's shipping shortly
thereafter.  They should be up on the website this week for preorders.

Once those  are out, I mainly need to just reformat that same circuit into
the rackmount and 12 port form factor.
On May 17, 2016 6:46 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> We're going to be retrofitting some sites and installing some old Trango
> ApexPlus radios. Going to inject with GigE-POE-APC's. I was hoping to have
> remote power control capability since we're going to be building up
> completely new cabinets anyway. Not only the remote power control, but
> getting rid of the glass fuses as well. I would be fine with a single port
> injector version for the crazy -48 on all pairs, return on shield POE
> scheme with the ApexPlus/Lynx. I imagine that has the same issue as the -48
> PDU. Oh well, I can leave them old school until you can come up with
> something. I have 14 of these things, so it'd be nice to have something
> eventually.
>
> BTW, I'll be powering these from a 48-48 RSD which is then fed from a
> Traco +48 TSP+BCM UPS.
>
> Honestly, I'd rather have the rack mount 16/18 port universal sync
> injectors right now. So if you're working on that, don't worry about this.
> :)
>
> P.S. I had an Exalt radio up and crash in a thunderstorm last week. PDU
> feeding a GigE-POE-APC. Port didn't trip, radio just quit. Went from 520ma
> utilization to about 150ma. I'm thinking soft lock. PDU saved me from an
> hour and a half drive. That's where I was going with this. I hate driving
> for hours just to power-cycle some piece of shit radio. So everywhere we
> have these goddamn Exalts is getting either a PDU or your new universal
> injector, 12 port DIN or rack mount. Gotta have it. Had another one lock up
> earlier that day, and it was on its own 802.3at brick, but it was only 5
> minutes from my house. Still pissed me off.
>
> On 5/17/2016 7:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> Just got my nose deeply into R&D for other things.
>
> The board for the PDU's was designed so we could (at least in theory)
> build a -48V version.  The underlying issue with it is that it would
> require power from a base unit to power up any radios - since we need
> positive power to run the circuitry.
>
> If you really really really really want one, I guess we could build one in
> the -48V style.   I'd have to look at see what parts we'd have to bring in
> to make it though.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:11 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> Is Forrest on vacation or does he not like me anymore? :(
>>
>>
>> On 5/12/2016 1:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Forrest, you mentioned a -48 version of the 5ch PDU in the past. Is
>>> this still in the works? Me want. Well, really it's a need.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Airgrid XW 5.5.1.0 firmware -5 error?

[timothy steele]

If the radio is infected it will stop the upgrade had that happen

On Tue, May 17, 2016, 8:45 AM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Download the new Ubnt Java patch and run that against the IPs. It will
> upgrade the radios.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a memory leak. If it's still connected via air control you
>> can try using it to reboot it
>> On May 16, 2016 9:12 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>>> oops I confused this with another one I'm working on, I actually just
>>> got this one to update through SSH using the ubnt removal tool., I have
>>> another that has no ssh, no web ui but is passing traffic, I suspect is
>>> infected
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:11 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>
 Can't get in via SSH as well, I'll try to get the customer to do a hard
 reboot, then make a truck roll if that doesn't work

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Usually a software reboot works...it doesn't have room for whatever
> reason.
>
> Have you tried wget and fwupdate ?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:07 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, tried that as well. UI reboot anyway. Not a full power cycle.
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Try to reboot it first, then upgrade.
>>> On May 16, 2016 9:00 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>>
 I tried XW and XM, really strange

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:00 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> Firmware Version: XW.v5.5.10   Upload Firmware:
> Build Number: 24238
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> Make sure you're using upgrade and not upload... Also probably
>> should be xm firmware, not xw.
>> On May 16, 2016 8:30 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know the upgrade path or why this airgrid won't upgrade?
>>>
>>> XW 5.5.10 , tried almost all firmware revisions and keep getting
>>> failed -5 error?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> TJ
>>>
>>
>

>>
>

>>>
>