date:20170315

http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Los_Pollos_Hermanos

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:06 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

Don't know that chain Rosa's failed here as well but does well in Midland, 
Dallas, Austin and San AntonioMakes sense to meI have been in 90% of 
Texas...

On Mar 15, 2017 2:52 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Chicken Man?

  From: Jon Bruce 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:28 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

  Los Pollos Hermanos?

  On 3/15/2017 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Pollo Loco failed here... Pollo Feliz did them in.

On Mar 15, 2017 1:26 PM, "Chris Wright"  wrote:

  That’s typical fare for Tennessee. They drown everything in grease or 
queso, or a combination of both.

  Chris Wright

  Network Administrator

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian 
(List Account)
  Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:29 PM
  To: af

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

  memphis "tamales".  

  On Mar 14, 2017 3:38 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  
wrote:

  What is that?

  On Mar 14, 2017 2:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Finally got the photo to send.  They were not terrible, just not what I 
would expect from a restaurant.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

Don't know that chain Rosa's failed here as well but does well in
Midland, Dallas, Austin and San AntonioMakes sense to meI have been
in 90% of Texas...

On Mar 15, 2017 2:52 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Chicken Man?
>
> *From:* Jon Bruce
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:28 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:
>
> Los Pollos Hermanos?
>
> On 3/15/2017 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Pollo Loco failed here... Pollo Feliz did them in.
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 1:26 PM, "Chris Wright"  wrote:
>
> That’s typical fare for Tennessee. They drown everything in grease or
> queso, or a combination of both.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
> (List Account)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:29 PM
> *To:* af
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:
>
>
>
> memphis "tamales".
>
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2017 3:38 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> What is that?
>
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2017 2:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> Finally got the photo to send.  They were not terrible, just not what I
> would expect from a restaurant.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Wow... You went up in my bitchin dude scale...Very refreshing ..Gives
me hope

On Mar 15, 2017 2:52 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

I confess, I cheated..  Then added the i..e stuff for humor...


On 03/15/2017 11:43 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

> Martiae or Martii in upper Latin..My phone had marriage and Martini
> respectively...ha
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 12:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> > wrote:
>
> I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I
> will check it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews"  > wrote:
>
> I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...
>
> On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad
> stuff... Underlying
> message... Don't let this become an issue or problem
> Make it a
> decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP
> industryI have no
> dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I
> am 90% SCADA
> dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews"
> 
>  >> wrote:
>
> Idus Martiae? ???
>
>
> On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Idus Martaie
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
>  
>  >
>  
>  
> Aha, something is afoot, Watson
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"
>  
>  >>
>  
>  
> Hi Rory,
> I don't think so..   You shared or
> forwarded a
> post to
> AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_
> forwarded it to
> me, I believe, as I got other posts in the
> same thread
> to AFMUG
> and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out
> of the reply
> FROM AFMUG!
>
> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> Robert, this was my error.  Please
> accept my apologies.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> 
>  >
>  
>  >>] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> >
> 
> >>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This
> is trending on
> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>
> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming
> across from
> WISPA to
> AFMUG and
> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a
> Serious problem.   I
> don't want my
> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA
> list...ALARM
> ALARM
> ALARM!
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 450

Matt, I didn’t take very good notes.  Can you take this one?

From: Jon Langeler 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450

Which quarter?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:54 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  R15
  40 MHz channels in 3 and 5 GHz.

  Medusa will have narrower channels. 5,10,15 MHz
  Demo mode.  Cripple ware non multi user mimo.
  Still has beamforming and sensitivity.   Later upgrade for higher capacity in 
the downlink with a key.
  Full feature cost is the same as buying it fully featured initially.  

  There is a demo time that lets you drive it fully featured for a limited 
time.  

  New case for the 450.  
  Adaptive CIR
  4 levels of QOS
  256 bit AES

  True Gig throughput

  Uplink mu-mimo
  Additional FEC on 900

  4.9 to 5.9 wideband SM

Re: [AFMUG] 450

2017-03-15 Thread Jon Langeler

Which quarter?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:54 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> R15
> 40 MHz channels in 3 and 5 GHz.
>  
> Medusa will have narrower channels. 5,10,15 MHz
> Demo mode.  Cripple ware non multi user mimo.
> Still has beamforming and sensitivity.   Later upgrade for higher capacity in 
> the downlink with a key.
> Full feature cost is the same as buying it fully featured initially. 
>  
> There is a demo time that lets you drive it fully featured for a limited 
> time. 
>  
> New case for the 450. 
> Adaptive CIR
> 4 levels of QOS
> 256 bit AES
>  
> True Gig throughput
>  
> Uplink mu-mimo
> Additional FEC on 900
>  
> 4.9 to 5.9 wideband SM
>  
>

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

I confess, I cheated..  Then added the i..e stuff for humor...

On 03/15/2017 11:43 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Martiae or Martii in upper Latin..My phone had marriage and Martini
respectively...ha

On Mar 15, 2017 12:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:

I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I
will check it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa

On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews" > wrote:

I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...

On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad
stuff... Underlying
message... Don't let this become an issue or problem
Make it a
decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP
industryI have no
dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I
am 90% SCADA
dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur

On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews"

>> wrote:

Idus Martiae? ???

On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Idus Martaie

On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

>

>

>

>>] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
>

>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This
is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming
across from
WISPA to
AFMUG and
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a
Serious problem.   I
don't want my
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA
list...ALARM
ALARM
ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno
Air Races is
dealing
with.   If
they do live streams of the air races
they worry it
decreases attendance
which is where the money

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

Chicken Man?

From: Jon Bruce 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

Los Pollos Hermanos?

On 3/15/2017 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Pollo Loco failed here... Pollo Feliz did them in.

  On Mar 15, 2017 1:26 PM, "Chris Wright"  wrote:

That’s typical fare for Tennessee. They drown everything in grease or 
queso, or a combination of both.

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:29 PM
To: af

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

memphis "tamales".  

On Mar 14, 2017 3:38 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

What is that?

On Mar 14, 2017 2:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

Finally got the photo to send.  They were not terrible, just not what I 
would expect from a restaurant.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

2017-03-15 Thread Jon Bruce


Los Pollos Hermanos?

On 3/15/2017 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Pollo Loco failed here... Pollo Feliz did them in.

On Mar 15, 2017 1:26 PM, "Chris Wright" > wrote:


That’s typical fare for Tennessee. They drown everything in grease
or queso, or a combination of both.

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
(List Account)
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:29 PM
*To:* af


*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

memphis "tamales".

On Mar 14, 2017 3:38 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
> wrote:

What is that?

On Mar 14, 2017 2:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote:

Finally got the photo to send.  They were not terrible, just not
what I would expect from a restaurant.

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Larry Smith

On Wed March 15 2017 14:31, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Good day for me.  My 5th grandchild (4th grandson) arrived during
> AnimalFarm.   And we ran out of catalogs too.  Excited about both!

Chuck

  Congratulations on both counts.  Just had my 6th great-grandkid born two
months ago - and they are loads more fun than the kids ever were (and yes,
I tell my kids this too)...

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

I would probably say et cetra...

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in 
WISP Talk

Per aspera ad astra, carpe dium, etcetera, etcetera! 

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:

  I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I will check 
it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa

  On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...

On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
  message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a
  decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no
  dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA
  dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur

  On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" > wrote:

  Idus Martiae? ???

  On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Idus Martaie

  On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

  >> wrote:

  Aha, something is afoot, Watson

  On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"

  >> wrote:

  Hi Rory,
  I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a
  post to
  AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_
  forwarded it to
  me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread
  to AFMUG
  and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply
  FROM AFMUG!

  On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my 
apologies.

  Rory

  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com

  >] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
  Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  >
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending 
on
  Facebook right now in WISP Talk

  Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from
  WISPA to
  AFMUG and
  not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   
I
  don't want my
  responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM
  ALARM
  ALARM!

  Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is
  dealing
  with.   If
  they do live streams of the air races they worry it
  decreases attendance
  which is where the money is.The actual reality
  is that
  live TV
  sports has proven over and over again that TV
  presentation
  actually
  increases the desire to attend events.   Events
  without live
  presentation or even delayed presentation show 
decreased
  attendance
  because of lack of awareness of the value of 
attendance.
   Arguments
  against have been disproved so many times in the 
sports
  world that it's a sure way to get fired as a
  marketing VP if
  you try it.

  On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

  I can see that access to a recording of all
  events at a
  reasonable
  price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My
  bet is
  though that
  this is the boards attempt to appease calls from
  vendors

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Good day for me.  My 5th grandchild (4th grandson) arrived during AnimalFarm.  
And we ran out of catalogs too.  Excited about both!

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:21 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in 
WISP Talk

Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying 
message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a decision all 
can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no dog in fight... 
Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA dude...And non Lenten 
period, provacteur

On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

  Idus Martiae? ??? 

  On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Idus Martaie

On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:

Aha, something is afoot, Watson

On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews" > wrote:

Hi Rory,
I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a post to
AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to
me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread to AFMUG
and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG!

On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM

To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to
AFMUG and
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I
don't want my
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM
ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing
with.   If
they do live streams of the air races they worry it
decreases attendance
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that
live TV
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation
actually
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased
attendance
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.
 Arguments
against have been disproved so many times in the sports
world that it's a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if
you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all events at a
reasonable
price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is
though that
this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors
for higher
participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get
there but can you
fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk
of the event.
They want people to talk to who can buy their products.
They don't
want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.

I think having one a year would help but they probably
have good
reasons for having two.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP

>> wrote:

I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to
video of all
sessions after the conference. I think even folks
who attend would
be interested since it is not possible to attend all
of the sessions.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP

>> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put
the presentations

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

2017-03-15 Thread Chris Wright

That’s typical fare for Tennessee. They drown everything in grease or queso, or 
a combination of both.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:29 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:

memphis "tamales".

On Mar 14, 2017 3:38 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
What is that?

On Mar 14, 2017 2:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" 
> wrote:
Finally got the photo to send.  They were not terrible, just not what I would 
expect from a restaurant.

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Chris Wright

El pollo loco.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:59 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in 
WISP Talk

Cameronus perfectus

On Mar 15, 2017 12:43 PM, "Cameron Crum" 
> wrote:
Per aspera ad astra, carpe dium, etcetera, etcetera!

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I will check 
it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa

On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews" 
> wrote:
I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...

On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a
decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no
dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA
dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur

On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" 

>> wrote:

Idus Martiae? ???

On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Idus Martaie

On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

>

>

>

>>] On Behalf 
Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
>

>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from
WISPA to
AFMUG and
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I
don't want my
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM
ALARM
ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is
dealing
with.   If
they do live streams of the air races they worry it
decreases attendance
which is where the money is.The actual reality
is that
live TV
sports has proven over and over again that TV
presentation
actually
increases the desire to attend events.   Events
without live
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased
attendance
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.
 Arguments
against have been disproved so many times in the sports
world that it's a sure way to get fired as a
marketing VP if
you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Cameronus perfectus

On Mar 15, 2017 12:43 PM, "Cameron Crum"  wrote:

> Per aspera ad astra, carpe dium, etcetera, etcetera!
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I will
>> check it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
 Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
 message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a
 decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no
 dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA
 dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur

 On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" > wrote:

 Idus Martiae? ???

 On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

 Idus Martaie

 On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

 >> wrote:

 Aha, something is afoot, Watson

 On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"

 >> wrote:

 Hi Rory,
 I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a
 post to
 AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_
 forwarded it to
 me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread
 to AFMUG
 and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply
 FROM AFMUG!

 On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

 Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my
 apologies.

 Rory

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com

 >] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
 Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
 To: af@afmug.com 
 >
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is
 trending on
 Facebook right now in WISP Talk

 Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from
 WISPA to
 AFMUG and
 not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious
 problem.   I
 don't want my
 responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM
 ALARM
 ALARM!

 Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is
 dealing
 with.   If
 they do live streams of the air races they worry it
 decreases attendance
 which is where the money is.The actual reality
 is that
 live TV
 sports has proven over and over again that TV
 presentation
 actually
 increases the desire to attend events.   Events
 without live
 presentation or even delayed presentation show
 decreased
 attendance
 because of lack of awareness of the value of
 attendance.
  Arguments
 against have been disproved so many times in the
 sports
 world that it's a sure way to get fired as a
 marketing VP if
 you try it.

 On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP
 wrote:

 I can see that access to a recording of all
 events at a
 reasonable
 price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My
 bet is
 though that
 this is the boards attempt to appease calls from
 vendors
 for higher

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Martiae or Martii in upper Latin..My phone had marriage and Martini
respectively...ha

On Mar 15, 2017 12:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I will
check it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa

On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

> I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...
>
> On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
>> Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
>> message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a
>> decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no
>> dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA
>> dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" > > wrote:
>>
>> Idus Martiae? ???
>>
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Idus Martaie
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
>> 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> Aha, something is afoot, Watson
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"
>> 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rory,
>> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a
>> post to
>> AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_
>> forwarded it to
>> me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread
>> to AFMUG
>> and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply
>> FROM AFMUG!
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>
>> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my
>> apologies.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> 
>> > >] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending
>> on
>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>
>> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from
>> WISPA to
>> AFMUG and
>> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.
>>  I
>> don't want my
>> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM
>> ALARM
>> ALARM!
>>
>> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is
>> dealing
>> with.   If
>> they do live streams of the air races they worry it
>> decreases attendance
>> which is where the money is.The actual reality
>> is that
>> live TV
>> sports has proven over and over again that TV
>> presentation
>> actually
>> increases the desire to attend events.   Events
>> without live
>> presentation or even delayed presentation show
>> decreased
>> attendance
>> because of lack of awareness of the value of
>> attendance.
>>  Arguments
>> against have been disproved so many times in the
>> sports
>> world that it's a sure way to get fired as a
>> marketing VP if
>> you try it.
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>>
>> I can see that access to a recording of all
>> events at a
>> reasonable
>> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My
>> bet is
>> though that
>> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from
>> vendors
>> for higher
>> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to
>> get
>> there but can you
>> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the
>> biggest chunk
>> of the event.
>> They want people to talk to who can buy their
>>

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Cameron Crum

Per aspera ad astra, carpe dium, etcetera, etcetera!


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I will
> check it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:
>
>> I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>>> Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
>>> message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a
>>> decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no
>>> dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA
>>> dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Idus Martiae? ???
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> Idus Martaie
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
>>> 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> Aha, something is afoot, Watson
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"
>>> 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rory,
>>> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a
>>> post to
>>> AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_
>>> forwarded it to
>>> me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread
>>> to AFMUG
>>> and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply
>>> FROM AFMUG!
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>>
>>> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my
>>> apologies.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> 
>>> >> >] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending
>>> on
>>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>>
>>> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from
>>> WISPA to
>>> AFMUG and
>>> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.
>>>  I
>>> don't want my
>>> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM
>>> ALARM
>>> ALARM!
>>>
>>> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is
>>> dealing
>>> with.   If
>>> they do live streams of the air races they worry it
>>> decreases attendance
>>> which is where the money is.The actual reality
>>> is that
>>> live TV
>>> sports has proven over and over again that TV
>>> presentation
>>> actually
>>> increases the desire to attend events.   Events
>>> without live
>>> presentation or even delayed presentation show
>>> decreased
>>> attendance
>>> because of lack of awareness of the value of
>>> attendance.
>>>  Arguments
>>> against have been disproved so many times in the
>>> sports
>>> world that it's a sure way to get fired as a
>>> marketing VP if
>>> you try it.
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>>>
>>> I can see that access to a recording of all
>>> events at a
>>> reasonable
>>> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My
>>> bet is
>>> though that
>>> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from
>>> vendors
>>> for higher
>>> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to
>>> get
>>> there but can you
>>> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the
>>> biggest chunk
>>> of the

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I will
check it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa

On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

> I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...
>
> On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
>> Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
>> message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a
>> decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no
>> dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA
>> dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" > > wrote:
>>
>> Idus Martiae? ???
>>
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Idus Martaie
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
>> 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> Aha, something is afoot, Watson
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"
>> 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rory,
>> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a
>> post to
>> AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_
>> forwarded it to
>> me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread
>> to AFMUG
>> and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply
>> FROM AFMUG!
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>
>> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my
>> apologies.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> 
>> > >] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending
>> on
>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>
>> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from
>> WISPA to
>> AFMUG and
>> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.
>>  I
>> don't want my
>> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM
>> ALARM
>> ALARM!
>>
>> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is
>> dealing
>> with.   If
>> they do live streams of the air races they worry it
>> decreases attendance
>> which is where the money is.The actual reality
>> is that
>> live TV
>> sports has proven over and over again that TV
>> presentation
>> actually
>> increases the desire to attend events.   Events
>> without live
>> presentation or even delayed presentation show
>> decreased
>> attendance
>> because of lack of awareness of the value of
>> attendance.
>>  Arguments
>> against have been disproved so many times in the
>> sports
>> world that it's a sure way to get fired as a
>> marketing VP if
>> you try it.
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>>
>> I can see that access to a recording of all
>> events at a
>> reasonable
>> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My
>> bet is
>> though that
>> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from
>> vendors
>> for higher
>> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to
>> get
>> there but can you
>> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the
>> biggest chunk
>> of the event.
>> They want people to talk to who can buy their
>> products.
>> They don't
>> want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the
>> event.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...

On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a
decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no
dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA
dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur

On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" > wrote:

Idus Martiae? ???

On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Idus Martaie

On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

>> wrote:

Aha, something is afoot, Watson

On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"

>> wrote:

Hi Rory,
I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a
post to
AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_
forwarded it to
me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread
to AFMUG
and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply
FROM AFMUG!

On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com

>] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from
WISPA to
AFMUG and
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I
don't want my
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM
ALARM
ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is
dealing
with.   If
they do live streams of the air races they worry it
decreases attendance
which is where the money is.The actual reality
is that
live TV
sports has proven over and over again that TV
presentation
actually
increases the desire to attend events.   Events
without live
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased
attendance
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.
 Arguments
against have been disproved so many times in the sports
world that it's a sure way to get fired as a
marketing VP if
you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all
events at a
reasonable
price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My
bet is
though that
this is the boards attempt to appease calls from
vendors
for higher
participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get
there but can you
fault them for trying? The vendors pay the
biggest chunk
of the event.
They want people to talk to who can buy their
products.
They don't
want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the
event.

I think having one a year would help but they
probably
have good
reasons for having two.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP

>

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a decision
all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no dog in
fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA dude...And
non Lenten period, provacteur

On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

Idus Martiae? ???


On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

> Idus Martaie
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  > wrote:
>
> Aha, something is afoot, Watson
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"  > wrote:
>
> Hi Rory,
> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a post to
> AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to
> me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread to AFMUG
> and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG!
>
> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> ] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on
> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>
> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to
> AFMUG and
> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I
> don't want my
> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM
> ALARM!
>
> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing
> with.   If
> they do live streams of the air races they worry it
> decreases attendance
> which is where the money is.The actual reality is that
> live TV
> sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation
> actually
> increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
> presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased
> attendance
> because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.
>  Arguments
> against have been disproved so many times in the sports
> world that it's a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if
> you try it.
>
> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>
> I can see that access to a recording of all events at a
> reasonable
> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is
> though that
> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors
> for higher
> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get
> there but can you
> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk
> of the event.
> They want people to talk to who can buy their products.
> They don't
> want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.
>
> I think having one a year would help but they probably
> have good
> reasons for having two.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP
> 
> >> wrote:
>
> I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to
> video of all
> sessions after the conference. I think even folks
> who attend would
> be interested since it is not possible to attend all
> of the sessions.
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
> 
> >> wrote:
>
> They should at least be streaming and then put
> the presentations
> online for $100 per member.
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via
> WISP
> 
> >> wrote:
>
> Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Idus Martaie

On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Aha, something is afoot, Watson
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Rory,
>> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a post to AFMUG from
>> the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to me, I believe, as I
>> got other posts in the same thread to AFMUG and all of them had the AFMUG
>> stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG!
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>
>>> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right
>>> now in WISP Talk
>>>
>>> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and
>>> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my
>>> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!
>>>
>>> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If
>>> they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance
>>> which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV
>>> sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually
>>> increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
>>> presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance
>>> because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments
>>> against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's
>>> a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>>>
 I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable
 price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that
 this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
 participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
 fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
 They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't
 want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.

 I think having one a year would help but they probably have good
 reasons for having two.


 On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP > wrote:

 I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
 sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
 be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the
 sessions.

 On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
 > wrote:

 They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
 online for $100 per member.

 Jon Langeler
 Michwave Technologies, Inc.


 On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
 > wrote:

 Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
> ruleï¿½ sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in
> 2017
>
> From: >
> on behalf of Keefe John via WISP  >
> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
> "  >, Principal WISPA Member List
> >
> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
> To: Rory Conaway  >, Principal WISPA Member List
> >
> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>
> Agreed!
>
>
> *//*
>
> */Gino Villarini/*
>
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> 
>
> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:
>
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
>> paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
>> organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
>> do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
>> better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
>> information proprietary).  As a vendor,

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Aha, something is afoot, Watson

On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a post to AFMUG from
> the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to me, I believe, as I
> got other posts in the same thread to AFMUG and all of them had the AFMUG
> stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG!
>
> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
>> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right
>> now in WISP Talk
>>
>> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and
>> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my
>> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!
>>
>> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If
>> they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance
>> which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV
>> sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually
>> increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
>> presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance
>> because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments
>> against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's a
>> sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>>
>>> I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable
>>> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that
>>> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
>>> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
>>> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
>>> They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't
>>> want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.
>>>
>>> I think having one a year would help but they probably have good
>>> reasons for having two.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
>>> sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
>>> be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
>>> online for $100 per member.
>>>
>>> Jon Langeler
>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
 ruleï¿½ sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in
 2017

 From: >
 on behalf of Keefe John via WISP >
 Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
 " >, Principal WISPA Member List
 >
 Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
 To: Rory Conaway >, Principal WISPA Member List
 >
 Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
 Facebook right now in WISP Talk

 Agreed!


 *//*

 */Gino Villarini/*

 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

 

 On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:

>
> __ __
>
> __ __
>
> As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
> paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
> organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
> do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
> better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
> information proprietary).  As a vendor, Iï¿½d be furious as
> most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
> specific products that they want to get out publicly.
>
> If this is the policy going

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Hi Rory,
	I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a post to AFMUG from the 
WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to me, I believe, as I got 
other posts in the same thread to AFMUG and all of them had the AFMUG 
stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG!

On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in 
WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's a sure 
way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable
price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that
this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't
want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.

I think having one a year would help but they probably have good
reasons for having two.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP > wrote:

I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
> wrote:

Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
ruleï¿½ sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in
2017

From: >
on behalf of Keefe John via WISP >
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
" >, Principal WISPA Member List
>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway >, Principal WISPA Member List
>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:

__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
information proprietary).  As a vendor, Iï¿½d be furious as
most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
specific products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely wonï¿½t be
speaking at any future events (Iï¿½m sure many people will
probably be happy at that) unless Iï¿½m getting paid (fat
chance of that, Iï¿½m sure), and probably wonï¿½t even be going.
There are so many other places that the same information can
be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etcï¿½
that I believe this position of WISPA is simply a huge
mistake.  But hey, the vendors are writing most of the checks
so Iï¿½d be curious to ask what they

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.

Rory 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in 
WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and 
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my 
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If 
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance 
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV 
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually 
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live 
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance 
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments 
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's a sure 
way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
> I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable 
> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that 
> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher 
> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you 
> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
> They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't 
> want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.
>
> I think having one a year would help but they probably have good 
> reasons for having two.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP  > wrote:
>
> I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
> sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
> be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
> > wrote:
>
> They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
> online for $100 per member.
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
> > wrote:
>
>> Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
>> ruleï¿½ sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in 
>> 2017
>>
>> From: >
>> on behalf of Keefe John via WISP > >
>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> " > >, Principal WISPA Member List
>> >
>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
>> To: Rory Conaway > >, Principal WISPA Member List
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>
>> Agreed!
>>
>>
>> *//*
>>
>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
>>> paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
>>> organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
>>> do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
>>> better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
>>> information proprietary).  As a vendor, Iï¿½d be furious as
>>> most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
>>> specific products that they want to get out publicly.
>>>
>>> If this is the policy going forward, I definitely wonï¿½t be
>>> speaking at any future events (Iï¿½m sure many people will
>>> probably be happy at that) unless Iï¿½m getting paid (fat
>>> chance of that, Iï¿½m sure), and probably wonï¿½t even be going.
>>> There are so many other places that the same information can
>>> be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etcï¿½
>>> that I believe this position of WISPA is simply a huge
>>> mistake.  But hey, the vendors are writing most of the checks
>>> so Iï¿½d be curious to ask what they think? 
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> Rory 
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

I hit reply all and your posting was to:
To: Mimbres Communications , af@afmug.com

Somehow the sw-ei.com linked to WISPA?

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now 
in WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's
a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable price
on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that this is
the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't want
half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.

I think having one a year would help but they probably have good reasons
for having two.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP > wrote:

I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
> wrote:

Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
ruleï¿½ sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in 2017

From: >
on behalf of Keefe John via WISP >
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
" >, Principal WISPA Member List
>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway >, Principal WISPA Member List
>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:

__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
information proprietary).  As a vendor, Iï¿½d be furious as
most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
specific products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely wonï¿½t be
speaking at any future events (Iï¿½m sure many people will
probably be happy at that) unless Iï¿½m getting paid (fat
chance of that, Iï¿½m sure), and probably wonï¿½t even be going.
There are so many other places that the same information can
be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etcï¿½
that I believe this position of WISPA is simply a huge
mistake.  But hey, the vendors are writing most of the checks
so Iï¿½d be curious to ask what they think? 

__ __

Rory 

__ __

*From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
*To:* Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
*Cc:* Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Time for a committee to review the findings of review committee, send it to
a vote, then send it to an  approval committee
Come on guys...The more information we all get and share , the better
consumers/sellers we all become.

On Mar 15, 2017 11:29 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> It has been a good show for me.  I am out of catalogs all ready.  I do
> think that members ought to be able to view the content after a certain
> amount of time has passed, but I am not really a full paying wispa member.
> I get my membership in trade for bring the AnimalFarm content and following.
>
> I am very grateful that Wispa has helped to keep AnimalFarm alive.  I
> would be totally OK if my stuff was made freely available but not really my
> call to make.
>
> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:06 AM
> To: Mimbres Communications ; af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now
> in WISP Talk
>
> Why the heck should a member of WISPA be required to pay and ADDITIONAL
> $100 to see presentations of a meeting that should be part of WISPA
> membership.   I hear they have record attendance.   Should be record
> PROFITS.   Attendance at something like this is very dear time to a lot
> of members at this time of year.   We are just recovering from winter
> this time of year with most of our signups happening now, and going to
> one of these conferences isn't going to be in the cards.   And I can't
> watch the presentations and have to wait mucho months to even get the
> card deck?   BS
>
> On 03/15/2017 09:22 AM, Mimbres Communications via WISP wrote:
>
>> The WISPApalooza 2016 slide decks were put up without even requiring a
>> sign-in.  Just a data point.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Jon Langeler via WISP > > wrote:
>>
>> They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
>> online for $100 per member.
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this ruleï¿½
>>> sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in 2017
>>>
>>> From: > on
>>> behalf of Keefe John via WISP >> >>
>>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com "
>>> >, Principal
>>> WISPA Member List >
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
>>> To: Rory Conaway >> >, Principal WISPA Member List
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on Facebook
>>> right now in WISP Talk
>>>
>>> Agreed!
>>>
>>>
>>> *//*
>>>
>>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>>
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:
>>>

 __ __

 __ __

 As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been paid
 a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
 organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I do
 it because I felt that the more information out there, the better
 we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some information
 proprietary).  As a vendor, Iï¿½d be furious as most of the
 speakers have recommendations or experience with specific
 products that they want to get out publicly.

 If this is the policy going forward, I definitely wonï¿½t be
 speaking at any future events (Iï¿½m sure many people will probably
 be happy at that) unless Iï¿½m getting paid (fat chance of that,
 Iï¿½m sure), and probably wonï¿½t even be going.  There are so many
 other places that the same information can be gleaned, vendor
 forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etcï¿½ that I believe this
 position of WISPA is simply a huge mistake.  But hey, the vendors
 are writing most of the checks so Iï¿½d be curious to ask what they
 think? 

 __ __

 Rory 

 __ __

 *From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
 ]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
 *To:* Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
 *Cc:* Rory Conaway
 *Subject:* Re: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now in
 WISP Talk

 __ __

 Yeah... It seems like most of the membership does.  And as a

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

It has been a good show for me.  I am out of catalogs all ready.  I do think 
that members ought to be able to view the content after a certain amount of 
time has passed, but I am not really a full paying wispa member.  I get my 
membership in trade for bring the AnimalFarm content and following.

I am very grateful that Wispa has helped to keep AnimalFarm alive.  I would 
be totally OK if my stuff was made freely available but not really my call 
to make.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:06 AM
To: Mimbres Communications ; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now 
in WISP Talk

Why the heck should a member of WISPA be required to pay and ADDITIONAL
$100 to see presentations of a meeting that should be part of WISPA
membership.   I hear they have record attendance.   Should be record
PROFITS.   Attendance at something like this is very dear time to a lot
of members at this time of year.   We are just recovering from winter
this time of year with most of our signups happening now, and going to
one of these conferences isn't going to be in the cards.   And I can't
watch the presentations and have to wait mucho months to even get the
card deck?   BS

On 03/15/2017 09:22 AM, Mimbres Communications via WISP wrote:

The WISPApalooza 2016 slide decks were put up without even requiring a
sign-in.  Just a data point.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Jon Langeler via WISP > wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
> wrote:

Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this ruleï¿½
sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in 2017

From: > on
behalf of Keefe John via WISP >

Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com "
>, Principal
WISPA Member List >
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway >, Principal WISPA Member List
>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on Facebook
right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:

__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been paid
a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I do
it because I felt that the more information out there, the better
we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some information
proprietary).  As a vendor, Iï¿½d be furious as most of the
speakers have recommendations or experience with specific
products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely wonï¿½t be
speaking at any future events (Iï¿½m sure many people will probably
be happy at that) unless Iï¿½m getting paid (fat chance of that,
Iï¿½m sure), and probably wonï¿½t even be going.  There are so many
other places that the same information can be gleaned, vendor
forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etcï¿½ that I believe this
position of WISPA is simply a huge mistake.  But hey, the vendors
are writing most of the checks so Iï¿½d be curious to ask what they
think? 

__ __

Rory 

__ __

*From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
*To:* Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
*Cc:* Rory Conaway
*Subject:* Re: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now in
WISP Talk

__ __

Yeah... It seems like most of the membership does.  And as a
previous, and potentially future presenter, I have an issue with
it.  Unless WISPA is going to pay me, I am not OK with them
claiming the copyright to my presentation and prohibiting folks
from recording it.  I am presenting for the good of the community.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 15, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP
> wrote:

Seems pretty standard to me. I assume you have an issue with
it?

__ __

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:47 PM Rory Conaway via WISP
> wrote:

No automatic alt text

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and 
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my 
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If 
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance 
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV 
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually 
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live 
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance 
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments 
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's 
a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable price
on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that this is
the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't want
half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.

I think having one a year would help but they probably have good reasons
for having two.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP > wrote:

I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
> wrote:

Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
ruleï¿½ sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in 2017

From: >
on behalf of Keefe John via WISP >
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
" >, Principal WISPA Member List
>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway >, Principal WISPA Member List
>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:

__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
information proprietary).  As a vendor, Iï¿½d be furious as
most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
specific products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely wonï¿½t be
speaking at any future events (Iï¿½m sure many people will
probably be happy at that) unless Iï¿½m getting paid (fat
chance of that, Iï¿½m sure), and probably wonï¿½t even be going.
There are so many other places that the same information can
be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etcï¿½
that I believe this position of WISPA is simply a huge
mistake.  But hey, the vendors are writing most of the checks
so Iï¿½d be curious to ask what they think? 

__ __

Rory 

__ __

*From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
*To:* Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
*Cc:* Rory Conaway
*Subject:* Re: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now
in WISP Talk

__ __

Yeah... It seems like most of the membership does.  And as a
previous, and potentially future presenter, I have an issue
with it.  Unless WISPA is going to pay me, I am not OK with
them claiming the

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Why the heck should a member of WISPA be required to pay and ADDITIONAL 
$100 to see presentations of a meeting that should be part of WISPA 
membership.   I hear they have record attendance.   Should be record 
PROFITS.   Attendance at something like this is very dear time to a lot 
of members at this time of year.   We are just recovering from winter 
this time of year with most of our signups happening now, and going to 
one of these conferences isn't going to be in the cards.   And I can't 
watch the presentations and have to wait mucho months to even get the 
card deck?   BS

On 03/15/2017 09:22 AM, Mimbres Communications via WISP wrote:

The WISPApalooza 2016 slide decks were put up without even requiring a
sign-in.  Just a data point.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Jon Langeler via WISP > wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
> wrote:

Uffï¿½ If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this ruleï¿½
sorry Wispa buts its a 1980ï¿½s policyï¿½ we are in 2017

From: > on
behalf of Keefe John via WISP >
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com "
>, Principal
WISPA Member List >
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway >, Principal WISPA Member List
>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on Facebook
right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:

__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been paid
a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I do
it because I felt that the more information out there, the better
we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some information
proprietary).  As a vendor, Iï¿½d be furious as most of the
speakers have recommendations or experience with specific
products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely wonï¿½t be
speaking at any future events (Iï¿½m sure many people will probably
be happy at that) unless Iï¿½m getting paid (fat chance of that,
Iï¿½m sure), and probably wonï¿½t even be going.  There are so many
other places that the same information can be gleaned, vendor
forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etcï¿½ that I believe this
position of WISPA is simply a huge mistake.  But hey, the vendors
are writing most of the checks so Iï¿½d be curious to ask what they
think? 

__ __

Rory 

__ __

*From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
*To:* Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
*Cc:* Rory Conaway
*Subject:* Re: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now in
WISP Talk

__ __

Yeah... It seems like most of the membership does.  And as a
previous, and potentially future presenter, I have an issue with
it.  Unless WISPA is going to pay me, I am not OK with them
claiming the copyright to my presentation and prohibiting folks
from recording it.  I am presenting for the good of the community.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 15, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP
> wrote:

Seems pretty standard to me. I assume you have an issue with
it?

__ __

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:47 PM Rory Conaway via WISP
> wrote:

No automatic alt text available.

This should get addressed quickly.

* *

*Rory Conaway **ï¿½ Triad Wireless ï¿½**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street ï¿½ Phoenix ï¿½ AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542 *

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

* *

ï¿½Optimism is going after Moby Dick in rowboat and taking
tartar sauce with you.ï¿½ 

___
WISP mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Twits tweet.
I don’t even reddit.

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

You know, the Facebook thing which is just like the Twitter thing (Provenza, 
Major Crimes).

Rory 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

What’s a facebook?

From: Rory Conaway 

Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:46 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Facebook had a bad day.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Yea, thanks.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

On Mar 14, 2017 7:59 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

  Tried 3 computers, 2 in different cities, all on Cox.

  Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

  4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

  602-426-0542

  r...@triadwireless.net

  www.triadwireless.net

  "I led the league in go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker

[AFMUG] Ippay down, they know about it

2017-03-15 Thread Josh Luthman

Was told hopefully not much longer.  No information otherwise.

Seems to be all billing systems but it's certainly effecting
Powercode+Ippay.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] 450

2017-03-15 Thread Chris Wright

ETA?

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450

R15
40 MHz channels in 3 and 5 GHz.

Medusa will have narrower channels. 5,10,15 MHz
Demo mode.  Cripple ware non multi user mimo.
Still has beamforming and sensitivity.   Later upgrade for higher capacity in 
the downlink with a key.
Full feature cost is the same as buying it fully featured initially.

There is a demo time that lets you drive it fully featured for a limited time.

New case for the 450.
Adaptive CIR
4 levels of QOS
256 bit AES

True Gig throughput

Uplink mu-mimo
Additional FEC on 900

4.9 to 5.9 wideband SM

Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius

2017-03-15 Thread Keefe John

Don't people do background checks anymore?

On 3/14/2017 4:47 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/paul-pazzaglini/internet/paul-pazzaglini-pliinc-pl-career-conman-on-tv-north-carolina-internet-1157880

Guy gets around

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:

They screen scraped DR’s brands page.
http://www.doubleradius.com/Wireless-Brands-Overview.html

*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:17 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Cc:* Jason Petrillo
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius
Looks like they are distributors of Last Mile Gear too.
https://www.pliinc.us/products
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:16 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius
I just found out he is one of our distributors too!
McCown Technology McCown Technology products are designed for the
specifc purpose of enhancing Motorola Canopy and Trango wireless
equipment.
Wow. I did not know that.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius
http://northcarolina.arrests.org/Arrests/Paul_Pazzaglini_16822148/

*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius
First part was easy. Nice looking house. Too lazy to figure out
the second half.
*From:* Hardy, Tim
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:02 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius

Google search the company address and then the owner of the
property – enough said.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Head
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:48 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius

There is this...http://www.waveworksinc.com/

Looks like an interesting company but not the same people, obviously.

On 3/14/2017 3:35 PM, Jeremy wrote:

/*WaveWorks*//**/- News Alert - The next Generation of
supplier after DoubleRadius

/*WaveWorks*/employees originally worked for DoubleRadius. Due
to the situation of DoubleRadius's sales plunge and their
contract with Ubiquiti being compromised, they may be going
out of business. For that reason we are moving all WISP
customers over to WaveWorks to continue supporting their
requirements. Please contact us for more details: Click here
for More Information

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy
wrote:

Yes, I did. It didn't come to this email address though,
it seemed to be derived from the WISPA list. I emailed
them about it and they said it is absolutely false.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Chuck McCown
wrote:

No, it is real. DR knows about it. Just trying to
figure out how the email address list was derived.

*From:*Josh Reynolds

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 14, 2017 2:16 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius

I haven't seen it. Are you sure it's not some kind of
malware attack or phishing scam?

On Mar 14, 2017 2:27 PM, "Chuck McCown"
wrote:

Did anyone receive an odd email about Double
Radius going out of business? It certainly is not
true. I think it said something about them losing
UBNT as a product line. I think I tossed it.
There are others that would like to see it if
anyone has a copy.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

2017-03-15 Thread Gino Villarini

By mac limit I mean t the ability to limit the number of mac addresses on a 
bridge SM, for security purposes.. I want just 1 mac allowed.

From: Af > on behalf of CBB 
Fuller >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:03 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening



Mac limit8192

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone




Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

- Reply message -
From: "Gino Villarini" >
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 8:23 AM

-Mac limit on 450 platform?
-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
-450M updated roadmap

Can you livestream it? FB live?


From: Af > on behalf of Chuck 
McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.



Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

8100+ mac addresses
Adding some of the limiting on 450, right now it is in there on upllink.
I don’t remember the answer to the proxy question, there is  something similar.
The roadmap was displayed.

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

-Mac limit on 450 platform? 
-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
-450M updated roadmap

Can you livestream it? FB live? 

From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.

  Gino Villarini

  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

I am at Fort Bliss in certification testing with a ton of engineers...My
wireless link is working perfectly...They are sending commands from remote
locations... They sign off and we get some money in our pocket$

On Mar 15, 2017 9:03 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
>
> Mac limit8192
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
> Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 8:23 AM
>
> -Mac limit on 450 platform?
> -450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
> -Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
> -450M updated roadmap
>
> Can you livestream it? FB live?
>
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown  >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
>
> If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the
> Cambium engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will
> ask them.
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

2017-03-15 Thread Josh Baird

BLAH!  But, I always felt they may intentionally keep this off the ePMP
platform..

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> No on epmp ap proxy to sm
>
> Not in the roadmap at least
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
> Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 8:23 AM
>
> -Mac limit on 450 platform?
> -450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
> -Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
> -450M updated roadmap
>
> Can you livestream it? FB live?
>
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown  >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
>
> If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the
> Cambium engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will
> ask them.
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

No on epmp ap proxy to sm

Not in the roadmap at least

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Gino Villarini" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 8:23 AM

-Mac limit on 450 platform? 

-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?

-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?

-450M updated roadmap





Can you livestream it? FB live? 











From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 

Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM

To: "af@afmug.com" 

Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening











If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.
















Gino Villarini



President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

Mac limit8192

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Gino Villarini" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 8:23 AM

-Mac limit on 450 platform? 

-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?

-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?

-450M updated roadmap





Can you livestream it? FB live? 











From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 

Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM

To: "af@afmug.com" 

Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening











If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.
















Gino Villarini



President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[AFMUG] my apologies, my last email was supposed to go to WISPA org

My bad.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"Optimism is going after Moby Dick in rowboat and taking tartar sauce with you."

[AFMUG] FW: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been paid a dime for my 
content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an organization is better served by 
eliminating this policy.  I do it because I felt that the more information out 
there, the better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some information 
proprietary).  As a vendor, I’d be furious as most of the speakers have 
recommendations or experience with specific products that they want to get out 
publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won’t be speaking at any 
future events (I’m sure many people will probably be happy at that) unless I’m 
getting paid (fat chance of that, I’m sure), and probably won’t even be going.  
There are so many other places that the same information can be gleaned, vendor 
forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etc… that I believe this position of WISPA 
is simply a huge mistake.  But hey, the vendors are writing most of the checks 
so I’d be curious to ask what they think?

Rory

From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
To: Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
Cc: Rory Conaway
Subject: Re: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Yeah... It seems like most of the membership does.  And as a previous, and 
potentially future presenter, I have an issue with it.  Unless WISPA is going 
to pay me, I am not OK with them claiming the copyright to my presentation and 
prohibiting folks from recording it.  I am presenting for the good of the 
community.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 15, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP 
> wrote:
Seems pretty standard to me. I assume you have an issue with it?

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:47 PM Rory Conaway via WISP 
> wrote:
[No automatic alt text available.]

This should get addressed quickly.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“Optimism is going after Moby Dick in rowboat and taking tartar sauce with you.”

___
WISP mailing list
w...@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wisp
___
WISP mailing list
w...@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wisp

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

You know, the Facebook thing which is just like the Twitter thing (Provenza, 
Major Crimes).

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

What’s a facebook?

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Facebook had a bad day.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Yea, thanks.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

On Mar 14, 2017 7:59 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:
Tried 3 computers, 2 in different cities, all on Cox.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"I led the league in go get 'em next time." - Bob 
Uecker

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

death by cnmaestro power point

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

yawn.

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening


I've got your back Chuck.

Literally.  Lol 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 8:46 AM

Can livestream at the risk of my life...

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

-Mac limit on 450 platform? 
-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
-450M updated roadmap

Can you livestream it? FB live? 


From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening


If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.


  Gino Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

yawn.

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening


I've got your back Chuck.

Literally.  Lol 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 8:46 AM

Can livestream at the risk of my life...

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

-Mac limit on 450 platform? 
-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
-450M updated roadmap

Can you livestream it? FB live? 


From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening


If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.


  Gino Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Too many useless codes.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Wouldn't it be faster to get through those channels if you at least used ASCII?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I may have to go back to morse code network meetings.
  Too many channels of info to waste  the seconds of our life with.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:21 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

  It's a book of faces.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

What’s a facebook?

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Facebook had a bad day.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

Yea, thanks.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

On Mar 14, 2017 7:59 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

  Tried 3 computers, 2 in different cities, all on Cox.

  Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

  4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

  602-426-0542

  r...@triadwireless.net

  www.triadwireless.net

  "I led the league in go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

2017-03-15 Thread Josh Luthman

Wouldn't it be faster to get through those channels if you at least used
ASCII?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I may have to go back to morse code network meetings.
> Too many channels of info to waste  the seconds of our life with.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?
>
> It's a book of faces.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> What’s a facebook?
>>
>> *From:* Rory Conaway
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:46 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?
>>
>>
>> Facebook had a bad day.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:28 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yea, thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:26 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2017 7:59 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>> Tried 3 computers, 2 in different cities, all on Cox.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> *"I led the league in go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

I may have to go back to morse code network meetings.
Too many channels of info to waste  the seconds of our life with.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

It's a book of faces.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  What’s a facebook?

  From: Rory Conaway 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:46 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

  Facebook had a bad day.

  Rory

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
  Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:28 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

  Yea, thanks.

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
  Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:26 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

  On Mar 14, 2017 7:59 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

Tried 3 computers, 2 in different cities, all on Cox.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net

www.triadwireless.net

"I led the league in go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?

2017-03-15 Thread Josh Luthman

It's a book of faces.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> What’s a facebook?
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?
>
>
> Facebook had a bad day.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:28 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?
>
>
>
> Yea, thanks.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:26 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2017 7:59 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
> Tried 3 computers, 2 in different cities, all on Cox.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> *"I led the league in go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
> *
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Epmp 2.4 - elevate

Should be April 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

I've got your back Chuck.

Literally.  Lol 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening
Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 8:46 AM

Can livestream at the risk of my life...




From: Gino 
Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is 
happening


-Mac limit on 450 platform? 
-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
-450M updated roadmap

Can you livestream it? FB live? 


From: Af  on 
behalf of Chuck McCown Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: 
Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AMTo: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: 
[AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening





If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask 
them.






Gino 
Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 
304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[AFMUG] 450

R15
40 MHz channels in 3 and 5 GHz.

Medusa will have narrower channels. 5,10,15 MHz
Demo mode.  Cripple ware non multi user mimo.
Still has beamforming and sensitivity.   Later upgrade for higher capacity in 
the downlink with a key.
Full feature cost is the same as buying it fully featured initially.  

There is a demo time that lets you drive it fully featured for a limited time.  

New case for the 450.  
Adaptive CIR
4 levels of QOS
256 bit AES

True Gig throughput

Uplink mu-mimo
Additional FEC on 900

4.9 to 5.9 wideband SM

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

Can livestream at the risk of my life...

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

-Mac limit on 450 platform? 
-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
-450M updated roadmap

Can you livestream it? FB live? 


From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening


If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.


  Gino Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

2017-03-15 Thread Gino Villarini

-Mac limit on 450 platform?
-450 Mcast and bcast limiter pps + bps like epmp?
-Epmp AP Proxy to Sms?
-450M updated roadmap

Can you livestream it? FB live?


From: Af > on behalf of Chuck 
McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.



Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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[AFMUG] Cambium at AnimalFarm is happening

If you notice this email in the next hour or so and want to ask the Cambium 
engineers a question, sent the question and if I notice it I will ask them.

Re: [AFMUG] Mass Changes to Epmp and 450?

2017-03-15 Thread Jon Bruce

I'm pretty new with cnMaestro but so far I've needed to approve manually 
when new devices are added. The fact that I can apply a template to a 
device when adding it, makes it really useful.

So far stability has been great, performance is (thankfully) nothing 
like Prizm and much faster than Wireless Manager.  Currently I only have 
56 APs and 542 SMs imported so I haven't pushed it really hard but I'm 
happy so far.

On 3/14/2017 5:02 PM, Steve D wrote:
Are devices automagically onboarded as you install them after the 
initial onboard?  Or does it need to be manually run every now and then?

How is the stability of cnmaestro?  Not have had any need yet for 
cnmaestro, but it does sound like its maturing nicely.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Jon Bruce 
> 
wrote:

450 and 450i

SMs show - Connection Status: Connected (ip.ip.ip.ip - From AP)

I did all of my on-boarding from Operate -> Onboard Devices ->
Onboard.  After just adding the IP to the 450x APs, the APs and
SMs showed up there.

On 3/14/2017 11:10 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Was that on 450 or ePMP or both?

-- Original Message --
From: "Jon Bruce" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 3/14/2017 8:23:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mass Changes to Epmp and 450?

My SMs came in automatically when I on-boarded the APs

On 3/13/2017 7:33 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

As far as I can tell, if you get the AP on boarded, the SMs
learn after that. But they need DNS if your CN host is a name
(vs IP).

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Mar 13, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Gino Villarini > wrote:

Do I need to have all the sms talking to the cn maestro?

From: Af >
on behalf of Josh Baird >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >
Date: Monday, March 13, 2017 at 7:06 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mass Changes to Epmp and 450?

cnMaestro templates work well for this.

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gino Villarini
> wrote:

WE need to push some mass changes to lots of Epmp and 450
Sms, without changing some pre configured parameters, what
would be the correct way t accomplish this? CN Maestro?
Cnut? Custom SNMP?

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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world?



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Re: [AFMUG] anyone having issues with Facebook?