[AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper band from 5740-58xx checked. Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s? On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Go to monitor wireless. That's all the APs it can see with the frequencies/sizes you've enabled.I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in. Saves time in scanning.Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
Yes, I double-checked the very same two units I was trying. They both connected closer in to the tower. On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:11 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On any new platform, go close to the tower, connect and run rests, once that's confirmed good you can worry about farther shots.On Dec 23, 2014 3:49 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
AP is set:Transmitter output power 23antenna gain 13 This is the standard Cambium sector. On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't think you want to do NLOS in 5 GHz at all. That's why I doubled up APs and have 2/5 on each sector.Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Dec 23, 2014 5:16 PM, Brian Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz? I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but certainly not 5+. Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to? On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles? Got -67 and some very nice bandwidth bumps. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper band from 5740-58xx checked. Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s? On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Go to monitor wireless. That's all the APs it can see with the frequencies/sizes you've enabled. I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in. Saves time in scanning. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
Well, yes, I agree with you. But I have had very good luck with Ubiquiti 5.x gear with near line of site. So, I thought, Cambium should do it better, right? On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:30 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Trying to get nLOS from 5 gig is where you are doing it wrong. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: AP is set:Transmitter output power 23antenna gain 13 This is the standard Cambium sector. On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't think you want to do NLOS in 5 GHz at all. That's why I doubled up APs and have 2/5 on each sector.Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Dec 23, 2014 5:16 PM, Brian Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz? I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but certainly not 5+. Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to? On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles? Got -67 and some very nice bandwidth bumps. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper band from 5740-58xx checked. Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s? On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Go to monitor wireless. That's all the APs it can see with the frequencies/sizes you've enabled. I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in. Saves time in scanning. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
[AFMUG] Force 110 assembly - anyone else having problems?
Just got my four pack in. Opened the box, all nicely packed. Started my first assembly. Got the bracket put on the dish. No problems. Now I get to the feedhorn push in. Yah right. This thing will not just click in place like the video shows. There is no way this feed horn I have will push far enough for the tabs to go into the holes for themI would probably break something. Seriously, I put the Force 100 together faster, and you know how bad it is...I hope the other three are not like this or they will go back to the supplier.
Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 assembly - anyone else having problems?
Does not work for me. I tried it that way, could only get one of the four tabs
to lock. The tolerances are way tight on this unit. It took all my might to get
the feedhorn in the hole of the dish (putting the horn in first), and it will
not bottom out like it is supposed to so the tabs can reach their holes. This
is a major disappointment for me.
On Monday, December 8, 2014 11:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
#yiv8998471224 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}I've only put one together so
far, but the feedhorn went in fine... it took a bit of pressure, but nowhere
near breaking anything.
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 assembly - anyone else having problems?
That's what I thought at first, I'ma gonna break somethin...
I stuck the feedhorn in first. Put the back bracket and mount on. Put the four
allen-head screw in hand tight. Put some pressure on the front of the feedhorn
and push on the back of the bracket at each of the four locking tab points.
They click in place. Tighten the four allen screws. Put the front reflector on,
mount the radio, etc. Fairly easy after the first one.
On 12/8/2014 10:35 PM, Alan West via Af wrote:
Just got my four pack in. Opened the box, all nicely packed. Started my first
assembly. Got the bracket put on the dish. No problems. Now I get to the
feedhorn push in. Yah right. This thing will not just click in place like the
video shows. There is no way this feed horn I have will push far enough for the
tabs to go into the holes for themI would probably break something.
Seriously, I put the Force 100 together faster, and you know how bad it is...I
hope the other three are not like this or they will go back to the supplier.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP antennas for subs
When the Force 110 arrives (still waiting) use it. It is a definite step up from the Force 100 On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:50 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Force100 Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Keith Fletcher via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What are you guys using finding works well as an antenna for the connectorized ePMP subs. NO reflector dishes!
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP antennas for subs
Um, where is it? On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 3:55 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Force 110 is here... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When the Force 110 arrives (still waiting) use it. It is a definite step up from the Force 100 On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:50 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Force100 Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Keith Fletcher via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What are you guys using finding works well as an antenna for the connectorized ePMP subs. NO reflector dishes!
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2' dish
Not out there, as far as I know. The Force 110 units from Cambium should hit vendors late this month. An improvement, but still not a Nanobeam as far as assembly. On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:59 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So I guess this doesn't exist. Or nobody cares. On 11/12/2014 10:15 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Is there a 2' dish that has an integrated radio mount like the Rocket dish for ePMP radios? And that possibly uses the same radome that fits on Laird/UBNT style parabolics? I thought I remember seeing this somewhere but I'm having no luck finding it. Maybe I'm imagining the Force100 dish or something? I guess I can always use a Pac/Laird HD dish, but integrated radio mount would be nice.
[AFMUG] Need EPMP Force 110 antennas
If ANY vendor has these in, and will sell the antenna by itself, please contact me. I need 3 or 4 pcs asap. Thank you. Alan West westw...@yahoo.com
[AFMUG] Distance with EPMP
Hello folks, I have been playing around with a test EPMP setup - 120 sector at about 170ft over mostly open farm land, using the latest beta firmware. I am somewhat disappointed in the lack of distance this thing can go, but I am just testing with the integrated SM (waiting on the Force 110 units). What distances are you guys getting with the integrated SM? Also, is it just me or is this web interface dreadfully slow? Also, the Monitor-wireless data does not seem to update very much, if at all when you are trying to aim it
Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz Survey - Request for Info
Yep, me too. I want my cookie to be NLOS and 20MB. On Monday, October 6, 2014 10:23 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: will we be receiving any cookies? On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Did it From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via Af Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz Survey - Request for Info As some of you may already be aware, we are conducting some inquiries surrounding the 900 MHz band in order to properly address concerns in using this band, and help provide us the information needed to develop the product that you need to deliver service to your customers. The survey is just over 20 questions, and is located here:https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/XNS38W6 Please help us help you! Any information we gather will help us to make sure we’re developing the right product for your needs, and this info will not be used for any commercial or solicitation purposes. It’s optional to fill in the contact info at the end, but I encourage you to do so, in case further exploration of a few of the responses could help even more. The survey will stay open for about 2 weeks, so try to get to it soon. Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing the survey. Thanks, Matt MangriotisSenior Product Manager Cambium Networks 3800 Golf Road, Suite 360Rolling Meadows, IL 60008 www.cambiumnetworks.com O: 847-439-6379M: 630-308-9394 E: m...@cambiumnetworks.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
