Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

[Jeremy Grip]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I will check 
> it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:
>> I was checking your spelling...   i before e except after c...
>> 
>>> On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>> Ides of Marchdate Ceasar  stabbed  and other bad stuff... Underlying
>>> message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a
>>> decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no
>>> dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA
>>> dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur
>>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Idus Martiae? ???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>> 
>>> Idus Martaie
>>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
>>> 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aha, something is afoot, Watson
>>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews"
>>> 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rory,
>>> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a
>>> post to
>>> AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_
>>> forwarded it to
>>> me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread
>>> to AFMUG
>>> and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply
>>> FROM AFMUG!
>>> 
>>> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>> 
>>> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> 
>>> >> >] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on
>>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>> 
>>> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from
>>> WISPA to
>>> AFMUG and
>>> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I
>>> don't want my
>>> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM
>>> ALARM
>>> ALARM!
>>> 
>>> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is
>>> dealing
>>> with.   If
>>> they do live streams of the air races they worry it
>>> decreases attendance
>>> which is where the money is.The actual reality
>>> is that
>>> live TV
>>> sports has proven over and over again that TV
>>> presentation
>>> actually
>>> increases the desire to attend events.   Events
>>> without live
>>> presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased
>>> attendance
>>> because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.
>>>  Arguments
>>> against have been disproved so many times in the sports
>>> world that it's a sure way to get fired as a
>>> marketing VP if
>>> you try it.
>>> 
>>> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can see that access to a recording of all
>>> events at a
>>> reasonable
>>> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My
>>> bet is
>>> though that
>>> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from
>>> vendors
>>> for higher
>>> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get
>>> there but can you
>>> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the
>>> biggest chunk
>>> of the event.
>>> They 

Re: [AFMUG] More movement in the 28/39GHz bands

[Jeremy Grip]

Oh, Small Cells aren't about the prison system?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> 
>> On 2/7/17 09:48, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> I think most people don't understand what the objective is.
> 
> 
> Right now the objective appears to be to sit on spectrum and hope for a 
> payday.
> 
> ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 24V PoE WiFi router?

[Jeremy Grip]

Wait a minute-looks like only the Argentinian AR-HP is 24V, otherwise it's 5V, 
no?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2017, at 1:21 AM, Jeremy Grip <g...@nbnworks.net> wrote:
> 
> Thought the earlier AirRouter APs came with the PoE variant, and later ones 
> with the power brick and barrel connector. Or is it the other way around?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 1:06 AM, David <m...@davidkunat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> How about a AirGateway-LR, a air router, or a mikrotik WAP? All of these can 
>> be powered by 24V POE.
>> 
>> https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airgateway/airGateway_DS.pdf
>> https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airrouter/airRouter_Datasheet.pdf
>> 
>> https://routerboard.com/RB952Ui-5ac2nD
>> https://routerboard.com/RB951Ui-2nD
>> https://routerboard.com/RB952Ui-5ac2nD-TC
>> https://routerboard.com/RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT
>> https://routerboard.com/RBmAP2nD
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Jeremy Grip <g...@nbnworks.net> wrote:
>>> For an off-grid hybrid residential customer and relay micro-POP, looking 
>>> for a good WiFi router (min. b/g/n) that accepts 24V PoE in, max .75amp, to 
>>> be fed by Netonix switch. Also 4 or 5 port gigabit switch to take same 
>>> power--I think the Mikrotik RB260GS or GSP would work for this. Anybody 
>>> have any experience with options for either WiFi router or a switch for the 
>>> application?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Jeremy grip
>>> 
>>> North Branch Networks, LLC
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> David Kunat

Re: [AFMUG] 24V PoE WiFi router?

[Jeremy Grip]

Thought the earlier AirRouter APs came with the PoE variant, and later ones 
with the power brick and barrel connector. Or is it the other way around?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2017, at 1:06 AM, David <m...@davidkunat.com> wrote:
> 
> How about a AirGateway-LR, a air router, or a mikrotik WAP? All of these can 
> be powered by 24V POE.
> 
> https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airgateway/airGateway_DS.pdf
> https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airrouter/airRouter_Datasheet.pdf
> 
> https://routerboard.com/RB952Ui-5ac2nD
> https://routerboard.com/RB951Ui-2nD
> https://routerboard.com/RB952Ui-5ac2nD-TC
> https://routerboard.com/RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT
> https://routerboard.com/RBmAP2nD
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Jeremy Grip <g...@nbnworks.net> wrote:
>> For an off-grid hybrid residential customer and relay micro-POP, looking for 
>> a good WiFi router (min. b/g/n) that accepts 24V PoE in, max .75amp, to be 
>> fed by Netonix switch. Also 4 or 5 port gigabit switch to take same power--I 
>> think the Mikrotik RB260GS or GSP would work for this. Anybody have any 
>> experience with options for either WiFi router or a switch for the 
>> application?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jeremy grip
>> 
>> North Branch Networks, LLC
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Kunat

[AFMUG] 24V PoE WiFi router?

[Jeremy Grip]

For an off-grid hybrid residential customer and relay micro-POP, looking for a 
good WiFi router (min. b/g/n) that accepts 24V PoE in, max .75amp, to be fed by 
Netonix switch. Also 4 or 5 port gigabit switch to take same power--I think the 
Mikrotik RB260GS or GSP would work for this. Anybody have any experience with 
options for either WiFi router or a switch for the application?

 

Jeremy grip

North Branch Networks, LLC

Re: [AFMUG] OpenSRS Email?

[Jeremy Grip]

We still use it for a handful of customers.  The spam filtering has 
deteriorated over the last year or more.

Jeremey Grip
North Branch Networks, LLC

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OpenSRS Email?

A customer I dealt with about 3 years ago was testing openSRS email … it may 
have changed since then, but the feedback was less than stellar.  I believe the 
email itself was less of a concern and the complaint was more about the spam 
presentation being less than effective in their opinion …

Totally second hand information - would suggest doing a trial with them maybe?


> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher Gray  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for feedback on the OpenSRS email product. Does anyone here use 
> it / have any thoughts? Offlist is ok if necessary.
> 
> Thank you - Chris
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request

[Jeremy Grip]

Telrad or Trango support?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:15 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> I just realized I suck at commas.  My apologies to grammar nazis.
>  
>  
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Adam Moffett" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: 9/6/2016 9:14:08 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request
>  
>> I submitted the feature request below to Telrad's online ticketing system 
>> earlier today, and they replied that they'll pass the request to 
>> engineering.  If you use either the Apex Lynx or Apex Orion and if you agree 
>> with what I'm saying below then please add your voice to mine and ask for 
>> this feature. 
>>  
>> ""
>> Feature Request: I think each interface on the Apex Lynx should have a local 
>> management IP address. One on the SFP port, one on the CAT5 port, and one on 
>> the RF interface. As an example, many units from Cambium have an address of 
>> 169.254.1.1 which is always accessible when directly attached to the 
>> ethernet port.
>>  
>> I think right now if I was to configure a unit for OOB management via GE1, 
>> then if GE1 was damaged I would permanently lose access to the device. If I 
>> configure for in band management via fiber, then I could (due to 
>> misconfiguration or malfunction) lose access to the device and require a 
>> climber to go up and press the reset button to restore access. Feel free to 
>> correct me if I have a misconception here, otherwise please consider adding 
>> permanent local IP's.
>> ""
>>  

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

[Jeremy Grip]

A whole 50 bucks.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

 

What’s the cost for that unit?

 

From: Jeremy Grip <mailto:g...@nbnworks.net>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 11:24 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

 

If I’m reading the diagram correctly…don’t see a chassis ground.

 

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2149600.pdf

 

Think I’ll check with an ammeter before connecting anything. 

 

Thanks all, J

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

 

That link doesn't work.

Does the el-cheapo power supply have isolated output? if not, then the chassis 
ground will affect which polarity you can use.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 5/3/2016 9:46 AM, Jeremy Grip wrote:

Anybody know if there’s a reason I can’t take a generic low-end power supply 
like this:

 

http://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=nes-350

 

and tie the DC+ side to ground to supply a -48V that calls for grounding the 
positive side?

 

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

[Jeremy Grip]

If I’m reading the diagram correctly…don’t see a chassis ground.

 

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2149600.pdf

 

Think I’ll check with an ammeter before connecting anything. 

 

Thanks all, J

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

 

That link doesn't work.

Does the el-cheapo power supply have isolated output? if not, then the chassis 
ground will affect which polarity you can use.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 5/3/2016 9:46 AM, Jeremy Grip wrote:

Anybody know if there’s a reason I can’t take a generic low-end power supply 
like this:

 

http://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=nes-350

 

and tie the DC+ side to ground to supply a -48V that calls for grounding the 
positive side?

 

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

[Jeremy Grip]

Can’t this be connected either polarity?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Grip
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

 

http://www.amazon.com/Mean-Well-NES-350-48-Power-Supply/dp/B00L1GZIHW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
 
<http://www.amazon.com/Mean-Well-NES-350-48-Power-Supply/dp/B00L1GZIHW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1462295010=8-1=meanwell+nes-350-48>
 =1462295010=8-1=meanwell+nes-350-48

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

 

Broken link

 

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2149600.pdf

 

This one says there is a +48v but I don't see a -48v.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Jeremy Grip <g...@nbnworks.net 
<mailto:g...@nbnworks.net> > wrote:

Anybody know if there’s a reason I can’t take a generic low-end power supply 
like this:

 

http://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=nes-350

 

and tie the DC+ side to ground to supply a -48V that calls for grounding the 
positive side?

 

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

[Jeremy Grip]

http://www.amazon.com/Mean-Well-NES-350-48-Power-Supply/dp/B00L1GZIHW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1462295010=8-1=meanwell+nes-350-48

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

 

Broken link

 

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2149600.pdf

 

This one says there is a +48v but I don't see a -48v.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Jeremy Grip <g...@nbnworks.net 
<mailto:g...@nbnworks.net> > wrote:

Anybody know if there’s a reason I can’t take a generic low-end power supply 
like this:

 

http://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=nes-350

 

and tie the DC+ side to ground to supply a -48V that calls for grounding the 
positive side?

 

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 

 

[AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

[Jeremy Grip]

Anybody know if there’s a reason I can’t take a generic low-end power supply 
like this:

 

http://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=nes-350

 

and tie the DC+ side to ground to supply a -48V that calls for grounding the 
positive side?

 

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple

[Jeremy Grip]

My understanding--and Apple's representation--is that no one at Apple actually 
has the tools to do this. If they develop that ability in house then a human or 
humans then have those tools. This is then a de facto compromise of the 
security, humans being notoriously susceptible to corruption. What was that 
Machiavelli said about power?And possession of those tools is a lot of power.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:05 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them for. FBI 
> wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing more. No "software on 
> every phone" to do this. Just that ONE phone. Get the data, then incinerate 
> the device.
> 
>> On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>> But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?� They're just 
>> saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we give it to you, and you 
>> get us the data off of it'?� I've got to think that the Engineers at apple 
>> have a way to do this thought up.� 
>> 
>> Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the phone, couldn't 
>> the Gov't with it's vast resources, just simply make a bit by bit copy of 
>> the flash chip in the phone and just go through and try every unlock code?
>> 
>>> On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> Yup. Google agrees as well.
>>> 
 On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:
 Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right thing. 
 
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he think that Cook should 
> be in Jail for failing to comply with the order.� 
> 
>> On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> ... What?
>> 
>> Seriously?
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM,  wrote:
>>> Treason?
 
 
 
 -- 
 -- 
 Sam Lambie
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?

[Jeremy Grip]

+1

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 6:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?

 

who?

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> 

 





On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:47 PM -0800, "Keefe John" <keefe...@ethoplex.com 
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> > wrote:

Chartered to spearhead the North American entry of a well-funded, new market 
entrant. Founded by several of the wireless telecommunications industry's top 
scientists and executives, the company, barely a year old, has already won 
awards for innovation by a top American-based global silicon company. Our 
technology has already earned network validation and approval by one of the 
largest mobile carriers on the planet. The time is right to introduce ourselves 
North American customers, who are hungry for solutions that will allow them to 
leverage the emerging LTE future without blowing up their business models.

On 2/11/2016 4:46 PM, Keefe John wrote:

I heard someone is launching something better than Telrad on Monday.  We'll see 
what it is!

On 2/11/2016 4:12 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:

I’ll pipe in.  

 

We were/are an early adopter of LTE.  I can tell you that buying into the 
Telrad system has been a very good move for us.  As of today, almost 450 
Subscribers and 30 sectors deployed in 2.3Ghz and 3.65Ghz.  We have a total 
build commitment consisting of 70 sectors and 2 EPC cores on our network.  From 
there…who knows.  

 

We have been deploying 4 sectors with Back to Back frequency reuse using 2 
eNodeB’s in split mode.  Once we fill it up, we will deploy additional AP’s and 
continue to fill…..then once MU-Mimo is running we will double our subscriber 
possibility.

 

Now that we have Breezeview running and ACS, we have complete visibility into 
our UE’s and infrastructure.  The piece we need to get integrated is Powercode 
and the EPC.

 

Was the LTE piece sold too early???…YES… Is it ready for commercial deployment 
now?….YES.  Because of early adoption, we certainly appreciate the features and 
stability of the platform and EPC at this point. Thanks to other customers that 
adopted early, like us, many bugs and issues have been resolved.  

Another point to remember is that the technology has been heavily deployed by 
National Carriers in the WiMAX flavour as Alvarion…the hardware is hardened and 
works well in extremely cold temperatures and heat….and lightning resilient 
because of field proven/hardened components. 

 

LTE is absolute magic…. Our installers are loving a working, predictable 
platform now that we have a strong understanding of capabilities and I love the 
fact that new features are a software upgrade away. We are filling our 
schedules with customers that have been waiting a long time for our deployment. 
 I can tell you we wasted a lot of money with other platforms/vendors, but I am 
very happy with our decision to go with Telrad.

 

Also, kudos to Telrad.  They have been absolutely terrific on the customer 
service front too…we had some very weird issues just before Christmas, they 
sent Guy from Israel on boxing day and we spent a week in the field diagnosing 
problems and solving them. Most of the problems were related to outside 
interference and on tower interference.  This field diagnosing and knowledge 
level that Guy has in the product definitely instilled confidence in the 
product and sealed my faith in the decision I made to move forward with them.  

 

 

 

Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email  andr...@silowireless.com <mailto:andr...@silowireless.com> 

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: February 11, 2016 4:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?

 

Are you doing LTE or Wimax with Telrad, Sean?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

We deploy mainly LOS with canopy 450 5ghz.  However the telrad equipment has 
been amazing at connecting clients that are buried in trees. I'm extremely 
satisfied with the performance of the system...when it works.  I added the 
qualifier of "when it works" because I feel like we've been a bit of a beta 
tester.  It's a very new product on the bleeding edge and it's getting better 
all the time but we definetly bled more blood than I would have liked. 


2 cents

 

-Sean 

 


On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com 
<mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote

Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

[Jeremy Grip]

Drupal /ˈdruːpəl/[4] is a free and open-source content-management framework 
written in PHP and distributed under the GNU General Public License.[3][5][6] 
It is used as a back-end framework for at least 2.1% of all Web sites 
worldwide[7][8] ranging from personal blogs to corporate, political, and 
government sites including WhiteHouse.gov and data.gov.uk.[9] It is also used 
for knowledge management and business collaboration.[10]

 

---Wikipedia

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

 

I refuse to use any CMS system of any kind because they're easily exploited.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL  
https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb  
https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions  
https://twitter.com/ICSIL 



  _  

From: David dmilho...@wletc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 11:17:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

Interesting, 
We use drupal for this site so its possible not sure how it happened because 
its sits on a Lamp stack server.
Thanks
Dave

On 03/03/2015 10:46 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:

FYI David

Inline image 1

 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:16 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

Yes, 
I love my 3.65 deployment thus far and not looking back. Steadily moving with 
more tower growth and more deployments. 
We have 4 sites scheduled this year to go on and 1 is completed working 2 this 
next quarter.
We are doing a full 3.65 on each site and adding 5Ghz 450 where it makes sense.

On 03/03/2015 09:23 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:

We love 5.15-5.25 though. So far our customer testing is showing performance 
very close to our 3.65 due to the low noise floor, and I know you've been 
reading about how the 3.65 is doing.

 

Patrick

Telrad

 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:03 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

Agreed but now there could be less room for additional development of other 
wireless devices.
 Also, if they would stay on on side of the band would be nice like 5.1 
Still plenty of room for us.
 

On 03/03/2015 06:31 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:

That's called malicious interference and can and should get you fined and 
shut down. Further, it is not WISP spectrum and never was. I have never 
understood the WISP sense of entitlement with unlicensed (free) spectrum, 
especially given that it is a population that is largely politically 
conservative.

On Mar 2, 2015 12:16 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote:

That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there 
signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess 
with WISP’s spectrum.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

 

If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are 
going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several 
proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as 
alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to 
suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found.

 

http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/

 

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 tel:510-868-1614%20x100 
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

 




-- 

Patrick Leary

Director BD, North America, Telrad

727.501.3735

patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG]

patrick.le...@telrad.com mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com  [this is my 
corporate address]

 




-- 

Patrick Leary

Director BD, North America, Telrad

727.501.3735

patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG]

patrick.le...@telrad.com mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com  [this is my 
corporate address]

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

[Jeremy Grip]

+1

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..

 

I think the point some are missing is the lesson learned from 900Mhz and smart 
meters. 

 

While 900Mhz is unlicensed spectrum, a single operator has managed to take it 
over in California to the point where no other user has any chance of using the 
spectrum for commercial purposes.

 

By this I mean that PGE’s deployment of smart meters on every power meter in 
the area, and on top of power poles, and other high sites, has raised the noise 
floor on this band to unusable levels for high speed communications.

 

So by means of overwhelming numbers, PGE managed to take over 900Mhz for its 
own users, stranding the investment of ISPs in this spectrum in affected 
markets. I don’t think the commissions initial concept of unlicensed spectrum 
was that a single operator would do this, I think they expected operators by 
this to use licensed spectrum.

 

I’d like to see a limit on how many systems a particular entity can deploy in 
an unlicensed band. It could be some high number, like 1 million units.

 

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] procera results

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

Anyone know how often the malware signatures are updated, or how good it is?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meredith via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] procera results

 

There is a Procera category for Malware which you can use to filter traffic 
which has a malware signature.

 

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

You can build triggers to identify certain types of malicious traffic and block 
it. But agreed, you would need enough upstream to weather the storm either way.





On 11/11/2014 02:42 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote:

I am not sure on the DOS filtering but I don't think it would matter that much 
if you're upstream was saturated anyway. I did see some stuff in there that it 
could filter out certain types of worms and adware.

Sent from my iPhone 

 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


On Nov 11, 2014, at 1:49 PM, cjwstudios via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Kurt, does the Procera have any kind of real-time virus/Dos protection?  

 

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

i am not blocking/shaping anything right now, that bar graph is only showing 
the top 10 results right now

Sent from my iPhone 

 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Kurt, are you blocking or shaping any torrents?  I don’t see that in your chart.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] procera results

 

Havn't shaped any traffic yet with this procera box. But here is a graph of 
what kind of traffic the clients are using as a whole in one days time. Of 
course Netflix is at top. But i am surprised at how close behind that youtube 
is (shows up as http media stream) Usually at any given time the 
Netflix/Youtube accounts for 50-75% of all traffic running through this box.

 




 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com/ http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

 

 

-- 
Simon Westlake
Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
powercode.com
P: 920-351-1010
E: si...@powercode.com





 

-- 

Regards,

 

Brian Meredith

Chief Technology Officer / Network Administrator

Softcom Internet Communications, Inc.

(209) 744-4234

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz Survey - Request for Info

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

+1

Oh, and done.

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin via Af
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 3:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz Survey - Request for Info

 

If you make a product that renders smart meters inoperative I will pay
whatever you want!

 

Steve B.

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via Af
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz Survey - Request for Info

 

As some of you may already be aware, we are conducting some inquiries
surrounding the 900 MHz band in order to properly address concerns in using
this band, and help provide us the information needed to develop the product
that you need to deliver service to your customers.  The survey is just over
20 questions, and is located here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/XNS38W6

 

Please help us help you! 

 

Any information we gather will help us to make sure we're developing the
right product for your needs, and this info will not be used for any
commercial or solicitation purposes.  It's optional to fill in the contact
info at the end, but I encourage you to do so, in case further exploration
of a few of the responses could help even more.

 

The survey will stay open for about 2 weeks, so try to get to it soon. 

 

Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing the survey.

 

Thanks,

 

Matt Mangriotis

Senior Product Manager
Cambium Networks
3800 Golf Road, Suite 360

Rolling Meadows, IL 60008

 

www.cambiumnetworks.com
O: 847-439-6379

M: 630-308-9394
E: m...@cambiumnetworks.com

CN_logo_horizontal_blueIcon_blackName

 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

Adam--

You were at Albany, too? I was too, but I  didn't register that comment; it 
just seemed from the official documentation that there had to be something 
special going on with that setting:

https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/file/e13730816e90878b11b3da92892de5ed74ffd88a

Feel free to hit me off-list.

Jeremy Grip
g...@nbnworks.net




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam 
Moffett via Af
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question


That's different from what I was told in Albany.  The front/back setting does 
something?

 Regarding the “Front Sector” and “Back Sector” settings recommended in 
 the doc (and User Guide), you will have to follow that. That is part 
 of the magic sauce in ePMP that make GPS sync work on this platform.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

One more than yours truly. :- (

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown via Af
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Yes?  Made my lips bleed in empathy.  I only hit a double high C scale one time 
in my life.  

 

From: Jeremy Grip via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 5:50 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Still hittin’ double-high C’s?? ( Sorry--old trumpet player here).

 

Jeremy Grip

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime 
Solorza via Af
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 7:21 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Yep.  Hope you hear him play McArthurs Park.He is close to 90 by now

Jaime Solorza

On Sep 26, 2014 4:14 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Probably.  Wasn't he the band master for Johny Carson?

bp

On 9/26/2014 2:48 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:

He has to be near 90.  He still plays the trumpet?  Or is he a bandleader?

 

From: Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:32 PM

To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Damn.  Thats awesome.Heard he joined Ides of March on Vehicle last year
If u can take some pics.  

Jaime Solorza

On Sep 26, 2014 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Going to see Doc Severinsen play tonight.

 

Anybody gonna top that!

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

MF! MF! MF! (never heard him live, alas)………..

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47uuEYv-C7o

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown via Af
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

I am talking about two octaves above the C on the staff.  Is that what you are 
talking about?  

 

Cause that is pretty danged high.   Three full octaves above the C below the 
staff.  If so, impressive indeed.  I was only reliable over two octaves.

 

I have also heard Maynard Ferguson in concert.  

 

From: Paul McCall via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:30 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Double C’s are part of my daily warm-up Chuck.  

 

But, there are some guys that are just amazing… Doc being on my short list of 
trumpet players in that list… Maynard Ferguson and Harry James are the other 
biggies.

 

Glad that you got to hear Doc !

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown via Af
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Yes?  Made my lips bleed in empathy.  I only hit a double high C scale one time 
in my life.  

 

From: Jeremy Grip via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 5:50 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Still hittin’ double-high C’s?? ( Sorry--old trumpet player here).

 

Jeremy Grip

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime 
Solorza via Af
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 7:21 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Yep.  Hope you hear him play McArthurs Park.He is close to 90 by now

Jaime Solorza

On Sep 26, 2014 4:14 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Probably.  Wasn't he the band master for Johny Carson?

bp

On 9/26/2014 2:48 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:

He has to be near 90.  He still plays the trumpet?  Or is he a bandleader?

 

From: Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:32 PM

To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

 

Damn.  Thats awesome.Heard he joined Ides of March on Vehicle last year
If u can take some pics.  

Jaime Solorza

On Sep 26, 2014 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Going to see Doc Severinsen play tonight.

 

Anybody gonna top that!

 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

I should add that all of the APs, as well as the “mobile unit” need to be in 
the same “network”.

 

Jeremy

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam 
Moffett via Af
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

 

 

It doesn't.  He either ran it multiple times on the same map and selected 
different AP's each time, or he imported the different maps into some other 
software to make the composite image.

Sorry, I asked a very vague question. I know how to create a Cartesian coverage 
map. What setting does a different color per AP?

Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000

On 09/26/2014 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Click  the “Cartesian Radio Coverage” button.  You may have to make it visible 
in Options.

 

From: Matt Jenkins via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:47 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

 

Jeremy,

You said you create these maps with a cartesian in RM. What setting does this?

Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000

On 09/25/2014 07:07 PM, Jeremy Grip via Af wrote:

Okay, I’ll try just embedding the image:

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy 
Grip via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

 

Sriram, that brings up my next question. The channel planning model for reuse 
is great for Idealtown, located on a flat plain where one can permit and build 
POPs on a tidy rectilinear grid. (This may be just west of Rolling Meadows).  I 
wonder about the utility of channel reuse in say, Realtown, where the topology 
is quite bumpy, forestation is patchy, and the operator takes what he can get 
in the way of locations for POPs. This is pretty much my situation, and 
probably plenty of other folks’ too.

 

I’m trying to think of a broad rule set for channel planning in those 
conditions. For instance, I’m planning to expand into an area with existing 
structures (silos). In the attached image I’ve modeled coverage in Radio Mobile 
with an RSSI of –66dBm or better at the SM, assuming an ePMP AP/90°sector at 
power limit for max modulation and Force (25dBi) SMs (antenna pattern is just 
an omni for planning purposes). Max cell radius is 6km. This is over actual 
topology, of course, and using a publicly available ground cover (clutter) 
database, so it should be a pretty good prediction of which POP gets best 
signal to a given location. Each POP has its own color, with some reuse where 
it wouldn’t be confusing. (This is RM’s “combined cartesian” coverage, so there 
are plenty of locations where more than one POP can provide better than -66, 
but the POP with the strongest SS gets to put its color on the pixel.)

 

Some of the POPs won’t want a full 4-sector deployment, but many, probably 
most, will. Am I better off, generally speaking, with the recommended 4-channel 
model, with two of the four channels on each POP (and the other two channels on 
the adjacent POP) than I am with the two channel model? And if so, would I just 
maintain the same azimuths for all of the POPs—e.g. channel A always at 0° and 
180° and C at 90°

and 270 ° on POPs 1,3, 5…, then channel B always at 0° and 180° and D at 90° 
and 270 ° on POPs 2,4,6…? Then maybe we could just leave out unnecessary AP 
quadrants on POPs where they weren’t going to do any good.

 

Is there any reason to try the ABAB reuse model if four channels are available? 
Does the necessity of setting Frequency Reuse “Front” and “Back” go away in the 
ABCD model—and can anyone explain just what that’s doing?

 

Whew.

 

Oh, yeah—can you just software switch between the GPS timing signal on the 
(internal patch or) local GPS port and the signal on the Cat5/6 from a CMM, if 
you want that kind of redundancy?

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram 
Chaturvedi via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:45 PM
To: That One Guy via Af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

 

Hi, 

 

Yes, the GPS chip comes with an internal patch antenna. The internal patch 
antenna is automatically disabled once you connect the external GPS antenna 
(and auto enables when you disconnect the external antenna). If you think the 
radio itself doesn't have clear LOS to the sky, then you can use the external 
antenna and place it elsewhere on the installation to get better LOS to the 
sky. 

 

There are a couple of documents on our support site 
(https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/epmp​ ) you can read through that 
will help answer questions about ABAB deployment using ePMP.

 

Thanks,
Sriram

 

  _  

From: Af af-bounces+sriram.chaturvedi=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com on behalf 
of That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject

[AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

I'm looking at ePMP w/channel reuse from a cost-comparison standpoint.
Trying to figure out how much I need to spend on GPS synch for a 4 AP/ 2
channel cluster. Does it need to be a CMM4? I will want to be synching
multiple POPs.

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

So would you be able to switch over to the onboard sync remotely? Do you need 
an antenna for each AP for using it? Do you think it’s as precise as using an 
CMM4 (or SyncPipe Deluxe w/Gig Injector) if not as robust? If all POPs are 
sync’d with same Up/Dn ratio and max cell distance and they’re talking to the 
same birds, is it pretty much the same?

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam 
Moffett via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 2:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

 

 

.also the PMP100 SyncInjector from Packetflux ought to work with ePMP.  You 
might want the gigE version, but in the real world with a mix of subscribers at 
different MCS levels I'm not sure how likely you are to exceed 100x100.

The CMM4 is a much more rugged beast.  It is expensive, but you are not likely 
to go back and wish you'd bought the cheap one.  

My plan is to hook up the internal GPS and have it available, but also to 
provide sync over power.  Once you are using GPS sync to re-use channels it 
becomes critical that it's always working, so better to have two timing sources 
available IMO.

They have built in GPS if youre on a budget, not sure why alot of people are so 
die hard against using it

 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Jeremy Grip via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

I’m looking at ePMP w/channel reuse from a cost-comparison standpoint. Trying 
to figure out how much I need to spend on GPS synch for a 4 AP/ 2 channel 
cluster. Does it need to be a CMM4? I will want to be synching multiple POPs…

 

 

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC 

 





 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

[Jeremy Grip via Af]

Sriram, that brings up my next question. The channel planning model for reuse 
is great for Idealtown, located on a flat plain where one can permit and build 
POPs on a tidy rectilinear grid. (This may be just west of Rolling Meadows).  I 
wonder about the utility of channel reuse in say, Realtown, where the topology 
is quite bumpy, forestation is patchy, and the operator takes what he can get 
in the way of locations for POPs. This is pretty much my situation, and 
probably plenty of other folks’ too.

 

I’m trying to think of a broad rule set for channel planning in those 
conditions. For instance, I’m planning to expand into an area with existing 
structures (silos). In the attached image I’ve modeled coverage in Radio Mobile 
with an RSSI of –66dBm or better at the SM, assuming an ePMP AP/90°sector at 
power limit for max modulation and Force (25dBi) SMs (antenna pattern is just 
an omni for planning purposes). Max cell radius is 6km. This is over actual 
topology, of course, and using a publicly available ground cover (clutter) 
database, so it should be a pretty good prediction of which POP gets best 
signal to a given location. Each POP has its own color, with some reuse where 
it wouldn’t be confusing. (This is RM’s “combined cartesian” coverage, so there 
are plenty of locations where more than one POP can provide better than -66, 
but the POP with the strongest SS gets to put its color on the pixel.)

 

Some of the POPs won’t want a full 4-sector deployment, but many, probably 
most, will. Am I better off, generally speaking, with the recommended 4-channel 
model, with two of the four channels on each POP (and the other two channels on 
the adjacent POP) than I am with the two channel model? And if so, would I just 
maintain the same azimuths for all of the POPs—e.g. channel A always at 0° and 
180° and C at 90°

and 270 ° on POPs 1,3, 5…, then channel B always at 0° and 180° and D at 90° 
and 270 ° on POPs 2,4,6…? Then maybe we could just leave out unnecessary AP 
quadrants on POPs where they weren’t going to do any good.

 

Is there any reason to try the ABAB reuse model if four channels are available? 
Does the necessity of setting Frequency Reuse “Front” and “Back” go away in the 
ABCD model—and can anyone explain just what that’s doing?

 

Whew.

 

Oh, yeah—can you just software switch between the GPS timing signal on the 
(internal patch or) local GPS port and the signal on the Cat5/6 from a CMM, if 
you want that kind of redundancy?

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram 
Chaturvedi via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:45 PM
To: That One Guy via Af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

 

Hi, 

 

Yes, the GPS chip comes with an internal patch antenna. The internal patch 
antenna is automatically disabled once you connect the external GPS antenna 
(and auto enables when you disconnect the external antenna). If you think the 
radio itself doesn't have clear LOS to the sky, then you can use the external 
antenna and place it elsewhere on the installation to get better LOS to the 
sky. 

 

There are a couple of documents on our support site 
(https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/epmp​) you can read through that 
will help answer questions about ABAB deployment using ePMP.

 

Thanks,
Sriram

 

  _  

From: Af af-bounces+sriram.chaturvedi=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com on behalf 
of That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question 

 

the APs come with an antenna for GPS, but its never been clear to me whether 
there is also an internal patch

 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Jeremy Grip via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

So would you be able to switch over to the onboard sync remotely? Do you need 
an antenna for each AP for using it? Do you think it’s as precise as using an 
CMM4 (or SyncPipe Deluxe w/Gig Injector) if not as robust? If all POPs are 
sync’d with same Up/Dn ratio and max cell distance and they’re talking to the 
same birds, is it pretty much the same?

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip mailto:af-bounces%2Bgrip 
=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 2:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

 

 

.also the PMP100 SyncInjector from Packetflux ought to work with ePMP.  You 
might want the gigE version, but in the real world with a mix of subscribers at 
different MCS levels I'm not sure how likely you are to exceed 100x100.

The CMM4 is a much more rugged beast.  It is expensive, but you are not likely 
to go back and wish you'd bought the cheap one.  

My plan is to hook up the internal GPS and have it available, but also to 
provide sync over power.  Once you are using GPS sync to re-use channels it 
becomes critical that it's always working, so better to have two timing sources 
available IMO.

They have built in GPS if youre