from:"Mitch Koep"

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 and Edgepoint Slow Speed in 1 Direction

2017-02-26 Thread Mitch Koep


Flow Control??


On 02/26/2017 06:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
I have a setup which I just Installed, and I'm trying to track down no 
speed in 1 direction on the link,  Not having much luck so far, so I 
thought I'd ask.  The AF24 is reporting full modulation.  I can't even 
maintain a winbox connection to the router.


RB1100X2 -> Copper to AF24
AF24 -> Copper to Edgepoint S16 -> 10G fiber to Edgeswitch 16XG -> 10G 
fiber to X86 Mikrotik with Dell KJYD8 Broadcom 10G card.


The Mikrotik to AF24 path is on the default Vlan1 on the 16XG and 
Edgepoint S16.


Bandwidth Test results:
TCP BW test at 500mb+ from the RB1100X2 (cpu limit) to the X86
~2mb from the X86 to the RB1100X2.

UDP BW Test at 700MB from the RB1100X2 to the X86
X86 is transmitting 700mb, but the RB1100 is only receiving ~400mb

MTU on everything is set to 1518.


Open to any ideas of what to try.



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Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt distro cheaper then Amazon prime

2017-02-27 Thread Mitch Koep


Scan Source and free shipping and/or shipping insurance 1% of

order


On 02/27/2017 12:46 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
Anyone know of UBNT distributors that can beat Amazon prime prices? 


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Re: [AFMUG] In Home Wireless Extension

2017-03-01 Thread Mitch Koep

We have had very good luck with the UBNT UniFi UAP-HP covering large 
concrete


homes

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell


On 03/01/2017 02:10 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
I've never been a fan of wireless mesh anything. Too many "invisible" 
parts. I would lean toward Sterlings original idea; a separate WAP on 
each floor; interconnected via ethernet. You might test it with 
powerline adapters. If those work; continue. Maybe keep them permanently.




On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:01 PM, Chuck McCown  
wrote:



I should mention, I have a three level house too.  Routers are on the 
middle

floor.  About as central to the whole house as possible.
I wonder if concrete has more attenuation than my subfloor?

-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] In Home Wireless Extension

I have a product called "warm board" as sub flooring. It is 7/8" thick
plywood with aluminum sheeting bonded to one side.  It has channels for my
radiant heating system.  It is also a very good RF shield.

My Calix 844E is usable throughout the whole house, but it has some weak
areas.
I am trying a router from IgniteNet that Harold sent me.  I thought it was
not as good, but after downloading an app that will give me wifi 
signals in
dBm, it is showing 2-3 dB hotter than the Calix in the areas I have 
tested.


So far, I am sticking with one AP for the whole house.

-Original Message-
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:52 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>'
Subject: [AFMUG] In Home Wireless Extension

I have a customer with a "trendy" home that has concrete floors, three
floors.

One AP isn't doing very well to reach the entire house.

They use Apple, so I'm thinking buying a bunch of refurbished Airport
Extreme units and plugging them in on each floor via Ethernet.

I know it's not mesh, but I don't think Mesh is going to work at all 
through

concrete.

I see this as the best option for them.

Any other opinions?






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Re: [AFMUG] does anyone remember the name of the company that builds heavy duty tripods?

2017-03-04 Thread Mitch Koep


http://www.texastowers.com/trt60.htm

Is this the one?


On 03/04/2017 05:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I got asked by one of my distributors to make tripods and non pen 
mounts.  I could not do it and keep my normal margins on the 
competitors I was asked to use as an example.
If you find heavy duty tripods, I wouldn’t mind knowing what they 
cost.  I don’t chase any lowball business but if I can do something 
better at the same price I will give it a shot.

*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, March 04, 2017 3:52 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] does anyone remember the name of the company 
that builds heavy duty tripods?

Texastowers.com
On Mar 4, 2017 3:50 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

Thank you for the response but it’s not either of the companies. 
This was a small operation, I think out of Texas, and his tripods

were very heavy duty.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 3:47 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] does anyone remember the name of the
company that builds heavy duty tripods?

Yes Ronard makes small ones up to 10 ft high

On Mar 4, 2017 3:45 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

Ronard?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>



*From: *"Rory Conaway" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Saturday, March 4, 2017 4:38:59 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] does anyone remember the name of the company
that builds heavy duty tripods?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Reviews

2017-03-12 Thread Mitch Koep


Quantico

Black list


On 03/12/2017 03:52 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Billions
Homeland
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:57 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Reviews
Me wife is hooked on Ripper Street now...I guess I am old 
school...NYPD Blue on Sundays is about it for me when I am not busy
On Mar 12, 2017 1:54 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
 wrote:


Unfortunately that seems to be the norm for movies on Netflix if I
didn't already see it in the theater it's not worth watching
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Reviews
Date: Sun, Mar 12, 2017 2:41 PM
Get Out
Exactly what I was expecting.  I enjoyed it.  Horror flick with a
bit of a comedy element.  Make sure you watch the trailer before
you spend your money.  Everyone in my group liked it but some
would not.
Legion
My 21 year old daughter saw it and loved it.  Have not seen it yet.
Operator
On Netflix.  I would say a big waste of time.  Mildly entertaining
during the first half due to the technology aspect.



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Re: [AFMUG] The Brothers WISP Interviews Chuck!

2017-03-17 Thread Mitch Koep


then no recordings lol


On 03/17/2017 08:58 PM, George Skorup wrote:

He gets paid in SFPs with no slots on radios to put it in. :)

On 3/17/2017 8:56 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

Nice work. Is someone paying you to do that?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 17, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:



https://youtu.be/YtmCaP0SbRY



-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>




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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

2017-03-25 Thread Mitch Koep

 AM, Chuck McCown
 wrote:

Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix?

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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

2017-03-25 Thread Mitch Koep


I would agree so why do we pay to fix or to add

additional equipment to modify?

I guess I will hold off from anymore Netonix.


Mitch

On 03/25/2017 09:27 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I would say yes.



-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
----
*From: *"Mitch Koep" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:23:08 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

Is this a design error that Netonix needs to correct?


> What is the lesser of two problems.  Leaving a lot of expensive stuff
> unprotected or risk replacing a Netonix switch?
>
> Chuck McCown wrote:
>> I would not put any surge protection on Netonix period, top or
>> bottom.  If it is POE and powered by a passive source you run a risk
>> of smoking it with any surge suppressor.
>> I have two devices designed, one is an ancillary fuse to put inline
>> with Netonix.  The second is adding fusing to my surge protectors if
>> I can fit it in.  The external in line fuse product is ready for
>> prototyping.
>> *From:* David Coudron
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
>>
>> We are also very interested in this topic.   We will be building out
>> 10 new towers in the next few months, and will be making the change
>> to Netonix switches (we had previously used a different type of
>> switch).  I the past we had put Transtector surge protectors on the
>> tower top and in the cabinet on the ground. From what you are saying
>> in thread, we should not plan on surge protectors in the cabinet, but
>> what is the recommended change for the tower top, if any?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> *David Coudron*
>>
>> david.coud...@advantenon.com|*Mobile: *612-991-7474
>>
>> *Advantenon, Inc.
>> 
*cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0<http://www.linkedin.com/company/Advantenon>cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0<http://www.twitter.com/Advantenon>cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0<http://www.facebook.com/Advantenon>cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0<http://blog.advantenon.com/>

>>
>> i...@advantenon.com|3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
>> 
55447|www.advantenon.com<http://www.advantenon.com/>|*Phone:*800-704-4720|*Local: 


>> *612-454-1545
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
>>
>> If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground,
>> you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer.  It will not
>> protect itself against shorts.
>>
>> *From:*Josh Baird
>>
>> *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM
>>
>> *To:*af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
>>
>> What exactly is the reason?  We always run through your surge
>> protectors before connecting to Netonix.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix,
>> irrespective of manufacturer.
>>
>> *From:*can...@believewireless.net
>>
>> *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM
>>
>> *To:*af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
>>
>> So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that
>> are connected to Netonix?
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am going to fix this little problem...
>>
>> Netonix will fix your port for something like $25
>>
>> *From:*Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM
>>
>> *To:*af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
>>
>> Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium
>> surge suppressor, and it fragged the port on the

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

2017-03-25 Thread Mitch Koep


+100

been here too


On 03/25/2017 03:58 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I've never lost one of Chuck's suppressors to lightning/surges. The 5 
or so that I have has all been because of the cable leaking water down 
into GIGE(-POE)-APCs at the bottom.


Had one last week. Of course, had to be the only non-gel tape cable 
running up the tower. I see the ethernet link suddenly start flapping. 
Bounce the MikroTik port. Nope. Log into the SiteMonitor, the 
SyncInjector port shows it's using about 400mA. Seems normal, but 
wait, the other sectors aren't consuming that much. I knew right then 
and there what it was. I get to the site and it's sizzling, rj45 all 
burnt up, but the radio is still powered up and transmitting, just no 
ethernet link. SyncInjector port didn't trip, obviously because the 
fixed 2A limit wasn't reached. Lost nothing other than the GigE-APC. 
Stripped the cable, put a new Rj45 on it without the jacket in the 
plug, tied it to the rack post, put a coupler and a patch cable in 
place of the APC, plugged it all back in and left. Not even any 
ethernet errors with the water in the cable.


AFAIK, CMMs and LMG CTMs have always had port protection. Dumb POE 
injection without over-current protection.. been there, done that. 
In-line suppressors or not, many radios these days are coming with 
surge suppression built in, like 450 APs. Methinks it's a fundamental 
design issues that Mr. Netonix should revise.


On 3/25/2017 8:35 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
There are other reasons a cable could short: water ingress, 
accidental cut, faulty device.


Changing your surge suppressor is a good idea, but I think PoE 
devices ought to include short circuit protection anyway.



-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 3/25/2017 9:28:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground, 
you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer.  It will 
not protect itself against shorts.

*From:* Josh Baird
*Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
What exactly is the reason?  We always run through your surge 
protectors before connecting to Netonix.


On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix, 
irrespective of manufacturer.

*From:* can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that are 
connected to Netonix?

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

I am going to fix this little problem...
Netonix will fix your port for something like $25
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium surge
suppressor, and it fragged the port on the Netonix. We were
swapping from something else that had been on the cable, and
completely forgot that it was going through that surge
suppressor. Hard lesson learned.

bp


On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

OK,  had an exchange with Netonix today.  It is just as Matt
Hoppes said. You short out their POE and it will blow the
Ethernet transformer.
I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that could
detect and shut down in an over current situation. They do
have poly fuses which are slow to react and may protect it
from a very brief short, but longer shorts will indeed harm
the port feeding the transformer.
So, Netonix is not active POE.  I would say that on passive
POE a plain surge suppressor should not be used.  I am working
some “non plain” surge suppressors now ;-) Stay tuned to
this bat channel and a big thanks to Matt for forcing me to
learn something new.  It was painful, but I can do painful
things when I have to.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix
tnx
*From:* Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netonix
chris.sisler
( A )
netlinx.net <http://netlinx.net>
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown
 wrote:

    Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix?







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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

2017-03-25 Thread Mitch Koep

 So, Netonix is not active POE.  I would say that on
passive POE a plain surge suppressor should not be
used.  I am working some “non plain” surge suppressors
now ;-) Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big
thanks to Matt for forcing me to learn something new. 
It was painful, but I can do painful things when I

have to.

*From:*Chuck McCown

*Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

tnx

*From:*Josh Luthman

*Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

chris.sisler

( A )

netlinx.net <http://netlinx.net>

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown
 wrote:

Anyone know the email for the guy that runs
Netonix?




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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

2017-03-26 Thread Mitch Koep


LOL Nice way to order a vendor
Josh


Mitch


On 03/26/2017 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Please make it one size fits all.  Like the gigE HV.  I'm not stocking 
3 products for 1 job.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


Peddling my bike as fast as I can go.  I think it will be a no
case product.  Two shielded RJ45s, PCB.  8 LEDS.  4 on one side of
the fuses, 4 on the other so you can see if any of the fuses have
blown.  Bare PCB design.  Perhaps painted with the LEDS showing
through the paint.  I think I can fit it all in a 2 inch PCB. 
Short shielded CAT5 jumper.

    *From:* Mitch Koep
*Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:14 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

Look forward to getting some when your

ready

Mitch


On 03/25/2017 09:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

That is exactly what it is.  Universal for all POE products.
*From:* Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:16 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
>>
The external in line fuse product is ready for prototyping.
Let us know how this goes, if the test are successful, I would
suggest making an 'external in-line fuse', which would make for a
quick retrofit for existing modules out there .
Thanks.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518  x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518  Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


*From: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com

*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:38:12 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

I would not put any surge protection on Netonix period, top
or bottom.  If it is POE and powered by a passive source you
run a risk of smoking it with any surge suppressor.
I have two devices designed, one is an ancillary fuse to put
inline with Netonix.  The second is adding fusing to my surge
protectors if I can fit it in.  The external in line fuse
product is ready for prototyping.
*From:* David Coudron
*Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

We are also very interested in this topic.   We will be
building out 10 new towers in the next few months, and will
be making the change to Netonix switches (we had previously
used a different type of switch).  I the past we had put
Transtector surge protectors on the tower top and in the
cabinet on the ground.   From what you are saying in thread,
we should not plan on surge protectors in the cabinet, but
what is the recommended change for the tower top, if any?

Thanks,

*David Coudron*

david.coud...@advantenon.com|*Mobile: *612-991-7474


*Advantenon, Inc.

*cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0<http://www.linkedin.com/company/Advantenon>cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0<http://www.twitter.com/Advantenon>cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0<http://www.facebook.com/Advantenon>cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0<http://blog.advantenon.com/>

i...@advantenon.com|3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315,
Plymouth, MN

55447|www.advantenon.com<http://www.advantenon.com/>|*Phone:*800-704-4720
|*Local: *612-454-1545


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
McCown
*Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to
ground, you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE
transformer.  It will not protect itself against shorts.

*From:*Josh Baird

*Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

What exactly is the reason?  We always run through your surge
protectors before connecting to Netonix.


On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown 
wrote:

Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to
Netonix, irrespective of manufacturer.

*From:*can...@believewireless.net

*Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge
suppressors that are connected to Netonix?

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown
 wrote:

I am going

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

2017-03-27 Thread Mitch Koep


Soon by who's calendar

lol


On 03/27/2017 01:52 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.



On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

I asked the Alphion sales rep about this.  He says the optics are coded, yes.  
As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from another he said in 
essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually tested across vendors so 
whether it works fine, works with bugs, or doesn't work at all is going to be a 
matter of chance.


-- Original Message --
From: fiber...@mail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON


No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with GPON.

Jared


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Re: [AFMUG] OT going green

2017-04-02 Thread Mitch Koep


Po or BO


On 04/02/2017 10:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Just as long as it is not Po.  I am allergic to Po.

-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2017 7:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT going green

And if you choose water near broomfield, you can even get traces of Pu
in the water for some extra kick...

On 4/2/17 5:31 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Most cities near the Rockies have Arsenic in their water.   Water fact
brought to you by me

On Apr 2, 2017 6:25 PM, "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I can use the coal fired generator to pump water up a hill for
energy storage.  There is an old arsenic mine up there that could
hold the excess water.  It would come down the hill, through my
turbine and then get dumped down a storm sewer somewhere.

*From:* David Milholen
*Sent:* Sunday, April 02, 2017 5:39 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT going green


Why Not?

Or Just go hydro?


On 4/2/2017 11:28 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I think I will make a coal fired generator to charge my electric
car.ï¿½


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Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

2017-04-03 Thread Mitch Koep


Josh

no 30a is better as long as you have low line noise

Mitch


On 04/03/2017 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'd be happy with say 10 or 20 megs, it's only for a few WiFi 
residents.  I'm looking more for reliability than speed.


Would 17 MHz be more reliable than 30 MHz?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:


the main thing to look for with a VDSL2 converter bridge pair is,
will it do the 30a profile (30MHz). Depending on how noisy your
lines are or loop length you may need to flip a switch to change
between 17a profile or 30a. But ideally 30a profile should
actually have slightly more bandwidth that is required to bridge
100BaseTX at line rate.

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:

Those both look perfect!  Even better than I was hoping.

I'm going to try the Planet one since it's cheaper+I know the
name.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Adam Moffett
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Google gave me this one:
http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec
<http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec>

100FD at 300m.

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 4/3/2017 10:54:14 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link


I'm looking for something I believe was discussed here
multiple times.  I have old copper going between a few
stories in the building and I need to get bandwidth up
there.  Isn't there some box that people have used that
will run with 2 wire or any kind of wire essentially and
then you have 100baseT?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373







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Mitch Koep

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Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

2017-04-03 Thread Mitch Koep


Josh

Do you have an unused pair from a lower Demarc to the Demarc

on the floor you want to get to?

Mitch


On 04/03/2017 02:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

And what if I have high line noise?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Mitch Koep <mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:


Josh

no 30a is better as long as you have low line noise

Mitch


On 04/03/2017 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I'd be happy with say 10 or 20 megs, it's only for a few WiFi
residents.  I'm looking more for reliability than speed.

Would 17 MHz be more reliable than 30 MHz?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke
mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

the main thing to look for with a VDSL2 converter bridge pair
is, will it do the 30a profile (30MHz). Depending on how
noisy your lines are or loop length you may need to flip a
switch to change between 17a profile or 30a. But ideally 30a
profile should actually have slightly more bandwidth that is
required to bridge 100BaseTX at line rate.

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Those both look perfect!  Even better than I was hoping.

I'm going to try the Planet one since it's cheaper+I know
the name.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Adam Moffett
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Google gave me this one:
http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec
<http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec>

100FD at 300m.

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 4/3/2017 10:54:14 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link


I'm looking for something I believe was discussed
here multiple times. I have old copper going between
a few stories in the building and I need to get
bandwidth up there.  Isn't there some box that
people have used that will run with 2 wire or any
kind of wire essentially and then you have 100baseT?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
    1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373







-- 
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Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

2017-04-03 Thread Mitch Koep


Be careful and disconnect the side going out of the building

DO NOT clip in and use both sides of the pair you  choose

Think of it as a HOME run cat5

From one device directly to the other

You can pull bridging clips and connect to the 66 or 110 on each side

Yes, These devices work great I installed them for years (another life 
before wireless)



High noise is usually caused by outdoor plant side of the pair you choose

or can be run too close to lighting or electrical

You can use a butt set and see if it is noisy after you isolate the pair you

want to use.

Josh if you need talk through give me a call

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell


On 04/03/2017 03:14 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I wonder how conservative the rate selection isprobably vendor 
dependent I suppose.


Found this chart on Wikipedia.  Looks like 30a is a larger channel 
with the same tx power.  So just like with wireless, you would 
increase the power density on your channel by using the smaller 
channel size, and you'd eliminate at least a couple db worth of noise 
 Seems to me if I didn't need the throughput then my connection would 
be a little more robust on the smaller channel.





-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 4/3/2017 3:42:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link


They train up just like the old dial up modems. Just can’t hear it.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, April 03, 2017 1:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link
There must be a minimum SNR for each speed.
I wonder if there's a bridge like that with automatic rate 
selectionseems like a feature you'd want.

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
Sent: 4/3/2017 3:24:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

And what if I have high line noise?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Mitch Koep  wrote:

Josh

no 30a is better as long as you have low line noise

Mitch


On 04/03/2017 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I'd be happy with say 10 or 20 megs, it's only for a few WiFi
residents.  I'm looking more for reliability than speed.
Would 17 MHz be more reliable than 30 MHz?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke
 wrote:

the main thing to look for with a VDSL2 converter bridge
pair is, will it do the 30a profile (30MHz). Depending on
how noisy your lines are or loop length you may need to
flip a switch to change between 17a profile or 30a. But
ideally 30a profile should actually have slightly more
bandwidth that is required to bridge 100BaseTX at line rate.
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:

Those both look perfect! Even better than I was hoping.

I'm going to try the Planet one since it's cheaper+I
know the name.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Adam Moffett
 wrote:

Google gave me this one:
http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec
<http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec>
100FD at 300m.
-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 4/3/2017 10:54:14 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

I'm looking for something I believe was discussed
here multiple times.  I have old copper going
between a few stories in the building and I need
to get bandwidth up there.  Isn't there some box
that people have used that will run with 2 wire or
any kind of wire essentially and then you have
100baseT?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
    Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373





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Mitch Koep


A Better Wireless
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help!

2017-04-03 Thread Mitch Koep


How much are they trying to get?

Mitch


On 04/03/2017 06:05 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
OT: Excuse the OT email, but would like to get some help from the fine 
crowd of WISPs!
My Son's LEGO Robotics🤖 team are working hard to get some funding for 
their Championship trip ✈️ to Houston! This is a great experience! 
Working on their programming skills, team skills and entrepreneurial 
skills!

Any amount donation would be greatly appreciated! ❤️
https://www.gofundme.com/tech-dragons-competiton-funding

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



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Re: [AFMUG] Analog Phoneline Question

2017-04-03 Thread Mitch Koep


or a 576 pair cable old days of sitting in the sun terminating

or searching for the DAL

thank goodness for  wireless

LOL



On 04/03/2017 08:58 PM, Trey Scarborough wrote:


Ah reminds me of the days of analog dialup and hunting through all the 
phone lines shorting them out to find the one in the 24 in that group 
that was just ringing through...


On 4/3/2017 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yep.  Just short it out.
-Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017
8:05 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Analog Phoneline Question
I have 4 analog lines in a hunt group, and the primary line has a bunch
of static from the phone company side.  Is there an easy way to take
that line 'off hook' at the DMARC so that incoming calls will roll over
and ring into the good lines, and have this offhook solution be easily
identifiable and removed by the phone company tech when he shows up in
the next 3 days to work on it?  Like jumper the 2 terminals together or
something?







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Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

2017-04-03 Thread Mitch Koep


Salomon Satche 

Mark Settle 

Juan Silva 


These three to start but be careful that your house is spot less
They will check you first
Also don't use the language you use here with them
it will not help your case any
Good luck
Mitch Koep

On 04/03/2017 10:25 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
So, 5his douchecanoe contacted one of our landlords recently. The 
particular sight has been problematic for 5ghz lately. I'm familiar 
with the prick. I dealt with his nonsense last week. I'm norma)y ass 
hole level good steward of the spectrum, I never ever take more than I 
need even on the isp side,  I atpc where I can, I mount low where I 
can. I actually take this pretty seriously, I even cost myself a long 
link to the new rules even though I'm grandfathered, I'm spectrum  ocd 
that way.
This asshole, I got called by a buddy who mismanaged his time with a 
ptp650 set on a two hop bank link. The best I could do was a team 
viewer. I took care of the long link, which was locally shitty in 5.8. 
The license upgrade required a more current firmware. Of course it was 
5.4 and cac so 8 had the local dick ride over to put it in 5.8 to come 
back up. This is a less than .1 mile link mind you.
The entire 5.4 is -50s. 5.2/3 the same. Apparently prickfuck hasn't 
upgrade has firmware enough to fuck 5.1 enough. I really only needed 
10mhz of 5.1 to match the long link capacity, so I went to a 40 mhz 
channel out of spite.
The shit bag causing the noise  who is using massive spectrum on old 
firmware or "test" channels (this is verified by the number of times 
I've dealt with this prick second hand) is wanting to colicky with us. 
(He's a "cable" provider) I suspect 8s some sort of ghetto multistage 
almost all transmit. He has only talked to the boss not me. Said there 
is 160mhz, he'd be willing to split 80x80 with us, which fully 
indicates this douchefucks capability.
I just want to tell the boss to let him on (we do have sweet contracts 
with landlords that give us site ownership  of spectrum) just so I can 
call the fcc to get this prick some real fines. I do suspect he even 
hits weather radar, but I don't know.
Who do we contact with the fcc to snitch? I never have been in a 
position where there was as blatant of an abuse as this  tool that 
it's something I would ever have considered  but now I just want to 
set him up to bust him.




On a side note he says he uses cambium gear that can use it 160mhz 
spectrum in 5g, does such a beast exist?


--
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Re: [AFMUG] Are APC products available through wholesalers?

2017-04-03 Thread Mitch Koep


Best price I have found is UPS for less


On 04/03/2017 10:53 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:


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*4226 S. 37^th Street ï¿½ Phoenix ï¿½ AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>*

*www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*

**

ï¿½An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, 
half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size 
it needs to beï¿½




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Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

2017-04-04 Thread Mitch Koep


It went great for us

the guys from the FCC were fantastic


On 04/04/2017 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

+10
I would ask Doug Clark and Sterling Jacobsen before calling the FCC.
They always pick apart the person making the complaint first as a 
deterrent from ever doing it again.

*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot
Paraphrased "Don't try to remove the spec form your neighbors eye with 
a log in yours"
The FCC will look at everything you have.  Check your gear three times 
before you make that call. And all of it, not just the site you are 
complaining about.


On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:25 PM Steve Jones 
 wrote:


So, 5his douchecanoe contacted one of our landlords recently. The
particular sight has been problematic for 5ghz lately. I'm
familiar with the prick. I dealt with his nonsense last week. I'm
norma)y ass hole level good steward of the spectrum, I never ever
take more than I need even on the isp side,  I atpc where I can, I
mount low where I can. I actually take this pretty seriously, I
even cost myself a long link to the new rules even though I'm
grandfathered, I'm spectrum  ocd that way.
This asshole, I got called by a buddy who mismanaged his time with
a ptp650 set on a two hop bank link. The best I could do was a
team viewer. I took care of the long link, which was locally
shitty in 5.8. The license upgrade required a more current
firmware. Of course it was 5.4 and cac so 8 had the local dick
ride over to put it in 5.8 to come back up. This is a less than .1
mile link mind you.
The entire 5.4 is -50s. 5.2/3 the same. Apparently prickfuck
hasn't upgrade has firmware enough to fuck 5.1 enough. I really
only needed 10mhz of 5.1 to match the long link capacity, so I
went to a 40 mhz channel out of spite.
The shit bag causing the noise  who is using massive spectrum on
old firmware or "test" channels (this is verified by the number of
times I've dealt with this prick second hand) is wanting to
colicky with us. (He's a "cable" provider) I suspect 8s some sort
of ghetto multistage almost all transmit. He has only talked to
the boss not me. Said there is 160mhz, he'd be willing to split
80x80 with us, which fully indicates this douchefucks capability.
I just want to tell the boss to let him on (we do have sweet
contracts with landlords that give us site ownership  of spectrum)
just so I can call the fcc to get this prick some real fines. I do
suspect he even hits weather radar, but I don't know.
Who do we contact with the fcc to snitch? I never have been in a
position where there was as blatant of an abuse as this tool that
it's something I would ever have considered  but now I just want
to set him up to bust him.
On a side note he says he uses cambium gear that can use it 160mhz
spectrum in 5g, does such a beast exist?



--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

2017-04-04 Thread Mitch Koep


What happens if the house with AP quits service??

You loose the rest that are connected ??

Tried that did not go well LOL

So now use power poles or small pipe masts (30 to 40')


On 04/04/2017 11:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Well, Utah...

Like to hear reports from the rainy states.

60 GHz is .19" wavelength or about .095" half wave or .0475" quarter 
wave.


Rain drops can get up to .150" So they fall in the ranges of quarter 
to full wave length sizes.


Moreover they will serve as miniature dielectric lenses.  And then 
there is oxygen absorption and water absorption.

Even CO2, and fog causes problems.

But should be noise free and you can certainly reuse frequencies all 
over because it will not go far enough to interfere if done right.



-Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

I have an Ignitenet PtP link that is half a mile that doesn't fade in 
the rain. I'm sure it will if it gets really heavy. There has been 
rain, but not heavy rain since I installed this link.


Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield


On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Vivint and Google are both saying they are doing this.  No idea what 
kid of radios they are using.  I talked to a couple of Vivint locals 
at the AnimalFarm show.  They both claim to be getting 1 Gbps at 
their home with the millimeter radio.  I think it was 60 GHz.  I 
asked them if it stays up during rain and snow.  They claimed it 
did.  Assuming the path was a quarter mile or less.


-Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:47 AM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Where are we with this concept as a WISP industry?

Let's say I have $200k to invest and already have mainline fiber in 
or near to the neighborhoods.


What equipment do I buy to get the best speeds to residential and 
small business customers?


Is there equipment in the 60GHz or similar bands that are for 
sale/ready for use?


Is the topology still to connect a house or two in the area with 
fiber and LOS to everyone else and deploy PtMP?


Thoughts?





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A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

2017-04-09 Thread Mitch Koep

We used this to test the sirens

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275

On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is
either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format. Anyone can duplicate them
with a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some
specs. Feed that audio into a transmitter and it is pretty simple.

All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds
about 20 years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
Where I live this half of the county is totally covered. Each
Wednesday at 3pm it says : “this is a test, this is a test, this
is a test of the Tooele county emergency warning system”. Looks
like 900 MHz feeding the system. Many times I have thought about
commandeering the system to announce the return of Jesus or
something.
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing
desirable like authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on
the sirens if you see any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz"
Anyone with some RF knowledge, a $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50
amateur radio flea market "2 meter band" amplifier could blanket a
city with such a signal.
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:

Sirens are bad right ?
Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these
things are set off with a radio right

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

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218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

2017-04-09 Thread Mitch Koep

LOL

It was set to the siren system Freq to test turn on turn off

during repair or install.

So what FCC REG is it in violation of when you use

the Licensed Freq???

Mitch

On 04/09/2017 12:57 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I don't see how that meets FCC regs.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 11:59 AM Mitch Koep <mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:

We used this to test the sirens

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275

On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only
trigger is either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format. Anyone can
duplicate them with a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a
sound card and some specs. Feed that audio into a transmitter and
it is pretty simple.

All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the
feds about 20 years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
Where I live this half of the county is totally covered. Each
Wednesday at 3pm it says : “this is a test, this is a test,
this is a test of the Tooele county emergency warning
system”. Looks like 900 MHz feeding the system. Many times
I have thought about commandeering the system to announce the
return of Jesus or something.
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing
desirable like authentication/encryption - it may just be
"turn on the sirens if you see any signal on the frequency of
155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a $300 SDR (HackRF
One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:

Sirens are bad right ?
Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure
these things are set off with a radio right

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
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Re: [AFMUG] distributor for RF elements horns

2017-04-10 Thread Mitch Koep



   Availability

Available for pre-orders.
Mitch



On 04/10/2017 10:48 AM, Paul McCall wrote:


Where do we buy these critters?

Baltic didnï¿½t list the UltraHorns, not seeing them on anyoneï¿½s site.

https://www.rfelements.com/products/wireless-broadband/ultrahorn-point-to-point-antennas/overview/

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>

www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com>

www.floridabroadband.com <http://www.floridabroadband.com>



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Re: [AFMUG] Credit card terminal and sip

2017-04-10 Thread Mitch Koep


When ever we have changed customers

We have had to call the processors Support to re register the card device

Mitch


On 04/10/2017 01:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Have a customer that lost his ability to use his credit card terminal 
when we switched him from copper to fiber.
Is is SIP via a Calex ONT , g.711 but it goes to a local central 
office.  So there should not be any jitter or latency.

Any ideas?


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Re: [AFMUG] 80-90 foot tower

2017-04-12 Thread Mitch Koep


Darin

http://www.texastowers.com/hd4-100.htm

We use these guys not for heavy loaded towers tho

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell


On 04/12/2017 12:48 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Hello all,

We have a customer whose house is in the middle of a forest basically 
and we can't get to one of our towers by going outside the trees 
because they don't own the property. The only other option is to go 
above the trees. They had a friend with a professional drone come out 
and the trees are at 75 feet so he probably needs a 85-90 foot tower 
to get above the tree canopy.


We only need to mount an ePMP Force 200 (18" diameter dish) to the top 
of the tower so the load is fairly minimal.


He is getting some quotes for about $8k installed but that seems a 
little high to me. What should he be seeing for hardware plus labor 
for a tower that can support this height and small load?


Any manufacturers/models would be appreciated. Thank you

--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
507-634-WiFi
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook 
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>


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Re: [AFMUG] 80-90 foot tower

2017-04-12 Thread Mitch Koep


http://www.amertower.com/

A 190 45G complete kit is just over $9000.00

They are great to work with

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell


On 04/12/2017 12:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Was it Matt Jenkins that used to do tree installs?  In any event, many 
radios have been installed in the trees themselves.

Otherwise:
https://www.3starinc.com/manuals/25G_buyers_guide.pdf
8 sections or so.  Guys, anchors.  $8K is not unreasonable for a turnkey.
*From:* Darin Steffl
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:48 AM
*To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] 80-90 foot tower
Hello all,
We have a customer whose house is in the middle of a forest basically 
and we can't get to one of our towers by going outside the trees 
because they don't own the property. The only other option is to go 
above the trees. They had a friend with a professional drone come out 
and the trees are at 75 feet so he probably needs a 85-90 foot tower 
to get above the tree canopy.
We only need to mount an ePMP Force 200 (18" diameter dish) to the top 
of the tower so the load is fairly minimal.
He is getting some quotes for about $8k installed but that seems a 
little high to me. What should he be seeing for hardware plus labor 
for a tower that can support this height and small load?

Any manufacturers/models would be appreciated. Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
507-634-WiFi
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook 
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>


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Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Ken Hohof?

2017-04-12 Thread Mitch Koep

oof Da

On 04/12/2017 08:51 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Well...I am not taking warm showers with of you or gonna sing 
Kumbaya...But we are better than all the drama

On Apr 12, 2017 7:11 PM, "George Skorup" <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

Wait... WTF did I do now? Pickin on the fat kid again, I see how
it's gonna be.

On 4/12/2017 8:06 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One day at a time brother...
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:45 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Ken Hohof?
1 We admitted we were powerless over spectrum—that our lives had
become unmanageable.
2 Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could
restore us to an acceptable EIRP.
3 Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care
of Jaime as we understood Him.
4 Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves and
our network.
5 Admitted to Jaime, to ourselves, and to another human being
(Ken) the exact nature of our wrongs.
6 Were entirely ready to have Jaime remove all these defects of
character an poorly designed DIN rails.
7 Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8 Made a list of all persons we had harmed on the list, and
became willing to make amends to them all with the exception of
George, hes a dick.
9 Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except
when to do so would injure them or others.
10 Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong,
promptly admitted it to the list.
11 Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious
contact with Jaime as we understood Him, praying only for
knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12 Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps,
we tried to carry this message to alcoholics and spectrum dicks,
and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Brian Webster
 wrote:

ROFLMAO!

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Ken Hohof?

Yeah, we got that one guy Steve into AA with Jaime as his
sponsor.  Life has been good ever since...

-Original Message-
From: Dev
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Ken Hohof?

Thanks Chuck, I’ll start reading again then.
>
>

There really has not been much noise lately.

>>>

I?ve largely ignored this list in the past two months due to
high noise threshold. I still don?t care what Trump did today
unless he has dropped packets or routing issues.

There is so much junk volume, and since I receive digest
format email, I can?t redirect OT: subjects to /dev/null.
Individual emails would kill my inbox altogether. I may write
a regex everyone can use to redirect about 5 senders to
/dev/null.

Sad that the noise is killing the list for the sake of a few
people who won?t shut up or stay on topic. They should go
grab a beer together and leave us alone so network operators
can solve real issues.

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Re: [AFMUG] STL interference work

2017-04-13 Thread Mitch Koep


We have moved many of the STL links here to

IP based links. (Licensed and not)

Less cost, better throughput and easier maint.

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell



On 04/13/2017 10:10 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
yes it isI recommended replacing everything at mountain location. 
  I hope to get in good with these folks as pay is good and they need 
allot of maintenance work based on what I observed.


Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


Splitter with pigtail not connected to anything will definitely
cause a suck out at some frequency(s).   Could be the whole problem.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:35 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] STL interference work
Got  hired to help station RF guy with suspected
interference950.00MHz 7.1 mile link using Scala PR-18
reflectors on each end Signal should be in the -50s but they
were getting -90dBm...Check alignment...Good, checked cabling and
connectors on TX side on ground level, good Drove up to Lower
Comanche site on mountainFound a splitter with a pigtail not
connected to anything..2nd picture, and old bad cable 3rd
pictureWill replace cable and antenna this week.




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Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Mitch Koep


6 and 7

11

13

18

23

https://www.intelpath.com/

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell



On 04/14/2017 09:46 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

Awesome!  Are there any other bands besides 11ghz and 18ghz??

Thanks!

-Sean

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:17 PM Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yes, 18 GHz has supported 80 MHz wide channels for a long time.
This is how the Exalt ExtremeAir 18 accomplishes 1 Gbps full
duplex FDD in both polarities between two radio units (H&V) using
256QAM 5/6 in each polarity. Single data payload ethernet
interface on each side. Others on the list can correct me if I'm
wrong but it was the first real 1 Gbps transparent bridge (not
sub-1Gbps something, or 1Gbps with header/payload compression) and
started shipping in early 2012.



On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:

Hello all,

Which FCC part 101 bands support 80mhz channel sizes besides
11ghz??  Does 18ghz support 80mhz channels??

Thanks!

    -Sean




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[AFMUG] OT Happy Easter to all

2017-04-15 Thread Mitch Koep



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Re: [AFMUG] Preseem

2017-04-19 Thread Mitch Koep


It's these guys

https://www.aterlo.com/

Could not get them to call me back a year ago

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell


On 04/19/2017 11:37 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Has anyone used this?  I've been getting emails from them.

www.preseem.com <http://www.preseem.com>


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Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

2017-04-21 Thread Mitch Koep



http://aruljohn.com/


On 04/21/2017 04:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor lookup that is 
current?

I want to look up several MAC addresses from customers devices and match them 
up with vendor.

Can't seem to find a vendor for ones that begin with this 34:97:F6:98:D3:08.





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Re: [AFMUG] Pole banding

2017-04-22 Thread Mitch Koep


I rented one from our local power company

It cost me 2 12 packs to the local repair guy


On 04/22/2017 09:44 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I have a need to band some logs that are splitting, in order to slow 
or stop the process.  I have found that a lot of the power pole and 
utility companies sell products that should work, for attaching to 
poles.  I am having a hell of a time finding anywhere to actually 
purchase said products though.  Hubbell lists Codale as their local 
distributor, but they only deal with the lighting division, not 
Hubbell Power Systems.  They are having trouble reaching anyone at 
HPS. Anyone have any idea where I can find pole banding products? such 
as this one:


http://www.hubbellpowersystems.com/pole-line/misc/banding-pole-attachments/





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Re: [AFMUG] [Texas] Rural Bandwidth

2017-04-26 Thread Mitch Koep


Call Consolidated Communication

Mathew Schultz

612-314-2212

matthew.shu...@consolidated.com

They have beat everyone here and have a very large fiber

foot print in Texas. He is fantastic to work with.

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell



On 04/26/2017 12:32 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:


In my experience, Suddenlink has been solid on the fiber side.

I feel like they will be your best bet.

Unfortunately, they arenï¿½t the cheapest in town.

Jim Bouse

Owner

Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi

979-985-5912

j...@brazoswifi.com

*From:* texas-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:texas-boun...@wispa.org] *On 
Behalf Of *Jon Paul Kelley

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:35 AM
*To:* te...@wispa.org
*Cc:* Principal WISPA Member List ; memb...@wispa.org; 
af@afmug.com

*Subject:* [Texas] Rural Bandwidth

I am in rural East Texas, Jacksonville, to be exact, and it is time to 
start looking for new bandwidth providers to get me some service out 
here. Currently, Frontier is the local phone company and they do not 
know anything other than 12/1 business plan with TV. Windstream has 
fiber to my office, they are one of my current providers, but dealing 
with them is like trying to pull teeth on a Great White Shark and the 
bill has been creeping up for the last 3 years. $100 her. 5% there. 
Suddenlink is the other provider, and my other provider, and they are 
rock solid with service and price is the same month after month.


I got a quote from Cogent for bandwidth out here and then got a 
message about them not being about to cross LATA boundaries.


I am sure some of you have encountered this before and might has some 
solutions that I have not thought about or even know about.


All suggestions and any advice is welcome.

Address is 101 Nance Street Jacksonville, TX 75766.

Thank you in advance.

*Jon Paul Kelley*

*903-589-0044 x-102*

logo-small2

www.ckswireless.com <http://www.ckswireless.com>



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Re: [AFMUG] [Texas] Rural Bandwidth

2017-04-26 Thread Mitch Koep

Give Mathew a chance he will change your mind

Mitch

On 04/26/2017 01:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Consolidated has been very flaky with us. Not so much technically, but
the people. One minute they're going all out, next minute they're not
interested.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>

<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
----
*From: *"Mitch Koep"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 26, 2017 1:09:53 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [Texas] Rural Bandwidth

Call Consolidated Communication

Mathew Schultz

612-314-2212

matthew.shu...@consolidated.com

They have beat everyone here and have a very large fiber

foot print in Texas. He is fantastic to work with.

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell

On 04/26/2017 12:32 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

In my experience, Suddenlink has been solid on the fiber side.ï¿½

I feel like they will be your best bet.ï¿½

ï¿½

Unfortunately, they arenï¿½t the cheapest in town.ï¿½

ï¿½

Jim Bouse

Owner

Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi

979-985-5912

j...@brazoswifi.com

ï¿½

*From:* texas-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:texas-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Jon Paul Kelley
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:35 AM
*To:* te...@wispa.org
*Cc:* Principal WISPA Member List ;
memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [Texas] Rural Bandwidth

ï¿½

I am in rural East Texas, Jacksonville, to be exact, and it is
time to start looking for new bandwidth providers to get me some
service out here. Currently, Frontier is the local phone company
and they do not know anything other than 12/1 business plan with
TV. Windstream has fiber to my office, they are one of my current
providers, but dealing with them is like trying to pull teeth on a
Great White Shark and the bill has been creeping up for the last 3
years. $100 her. 5% there. Suddenlink is the other provider, and
my other provider, and they are rock solid with service and price
is the same month after month.

ï¿½

I got a quote from Cogent for bandwidth out here and then got a
message about them not being about to cross LATA boundaries.

ï¿½

I am sure some of you have encountered this before and might has
some solutions that I have not thought about or even know about.

ï¿½

All suggestions and any advice is welcome.

ï¿½

Address is 101 Nance Street Jacksonville, TX 75766.

ï¿½

Thank you in advance.

ï¿½

*Jon Paul Kelley*

*903-589-0044 x-102*

logo-small2

www.ckswireless.com <http://www.ckswireless.com>

ï¿½

--
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A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

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A Better Wireless
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Re: [AFMUG] [Texas] Rural Bandwidth

2017-04-26 Thread Mitch Koep

Mathew saved our butt when Puro Broadband (Karl Koepke) left us hanging
with a

circuit disconnect due to non payment of over 7 months (yes we paid the
bill to Puro)

We ended up with a gig for 39.00 more than we were paying Puro for 100 meg

Mathew kept me updated every step of the way.

Mitch

On 04/26/2017 01:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Consolidated has been very flaky with us. Not so much technically, but
the people. One minute they're going all out, next minute they're not
interested.

<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
----
*From: *"Mitch Koep"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 26, 2017 1:09:53 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [Texas] Rural Bandwidth

Call Consolidated Communication

Mathew Schultz

612-314-2212

matthew.shu...@consolidated.com

They have beat everyone here and have a very large fiber

foot print in Texas. He is fantastic to work with.

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell

On 04/26/2017 12:32 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

In my experience, Suddenlink has been solid on the fiber side.ï¿½

I feel like they will be your best bet.ï¿½

ï¿½

Unfortunately, they arenï¿½t the cheapest in town.ï¿½

ï¿½

Jim Bouse

Owner

Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi

979-985-5912

j...@brazoswifi.com

ï¿½

I got a quote from Cogent for bandwidth out here and then got a
message about them not being about to cross LATA boundaries.

ï¿½

I am sure some of you have encountered this before and might has
some solutions that I have not thought about or even know about.

ï¿½

All suggestions and any advice is welcome.

ï¿½

Address is 101 Nance Street Jacksonville, TX 75766.

ï¿½

Thank you in advance.

ï¿½

*Jon Paul Kelley*

*903-589-0044 x-102*

logo-small2

www.ckswireless.com <http://www.ckswireless.com>

ï¿½

--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

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A Better Wireless
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Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Mitch Koep


Are there any hidden fees

like monthly, cpe based, AP based, number of users?

Core controller?

Thanks



On 04/28/2017 02:59 PM, Jerry Head wrote:

True.


On 4/28/2017 2:43 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, but the thing I didn't realize before I ordered, was that 
there's actually no reason you need to use the Baicells power cable - 
the eNB does come with the power connector, which can easily be put 
on cable of the appropriate type.


You do need an antenna though... I used a KPP sector.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jerry Head 
mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>> wrote:


You also need a power cable as the base station is not POE.


On 4/28/2017 2:30 PM, Tim Alexander wrote:

Hi Jason,

Just to be clear, you probably know this, you do need an antenna
for the AP itself.

The firmware is very much in beta. Rate limiting, proper l3
routing, l2 bridging (or what passes for it in LTE world), snmp,
and comprehensive management are still very much works in
progress. The cloud EPC also tends to have issues and goes down
randomly. They are bringing up more instances in Microsoft's
azure cloud and altering some of the ways the tunnel works they
said recently.


*/Timothy Alexander/*
*Amplex Internet*
E-mail: t...@amplex.net <mailto:t...@amplex.net>
Office: 419-837-5015 
Mailing Address:
22690 Pemberville Rd
Luckey, OH 43443
On 4/28/2017 3:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:








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Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread Mitch Koep


+100 best decision


On 04/28/2017 03:27 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:
Thank you for the feedback. It is all Cat5e so I'll just add a patch 
panel there and re-wire them all.




On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:37 AM, <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


Punchdowns are probably 50%-75% the cause of all troubles in these
types of installations.  I very much dislike them.
Even for dial tone they are problematic. Wirewrap never seemed to
fail.
If they were brand new when installed , punched correctly and
nobody ever ever ever touched one single wire on the block ever
again, they are fine.
But that never happens, techs get the wrong wires when
troubleshooting, they tug and pull on stuff to figure out where
they are and they re-punch wires during troubles and installs.
The piggy-back jacks are nice and quick but you still have a
fricking punchdown behind them.  I have used them for dial tone on
PBX s but not for data.
*From:* Christopher Gray
*Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 7:58 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?
I've seen RJ45 jacks that plug right onto punchdown blocks. I'm
about to convert this wiring to Ethernet for VoIP. Can I take the
easy way out, remove the jumpers, and install the piggy-back
jacks, or should I really pull it all and punch it back down on a
proper patch panel?
Don't want to cut corners, but if re-punching the whole lot can be
avoided, it would help cut the customer cost.




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A Better Wireless
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Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread Mitch Koep


+1000 cpanel is great

takes one customer to get the IP blacklisted

then hours to delist


On 04/28/2017 06:30 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'd say at least 4-5 hours of my time per week was dealing with email 
issues. We gave all of our customers 6 months, which turned into 8 
months, to clean up, download, back up, etc. their shit and GTFO. 
There's Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook/Hotmail/Live/MSN and whatever else. 
Plenty free options with lots of storage. We still do web/email 
hosting for businesses on cPanel, but that's it. Never going there for 
regular customers ever again.


On 4/28/2017 4:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
It's a service offering with little upside and lots of time sink 
pitfalls.


There are better things to focus on IMO.

- Josh

On Apr 28, 2017 4:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:


This isn’t what you are looking for, but I abandoned that years
ago and never looked back.

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright
*Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 3:21 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

In a world where anyone can get a free 15GB gmail address, what
is an ISP to do? Hosted services are unyielding with their price
structure and equally miserly with mailbox storage. Of course,
they get to worry about a lot of things I enjoy not worrying
about – Spam policies, storage I/O, AV, and all the other
headaches inherent to hosting email for more than two people. Is
there any goldilocks solution out there?

    Chris Wright

Network Administrator





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A Better Wireless
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Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-29 Thread Mitch Koep


Dave

This won't be another Runcom??

Mitch


On 04/29/2017 07:01 PM, David wrote:
"Bridge Mode" is not actual layer 2 mode. It tunnels DHCP traffic and 
perhaps other traffic between the CPE and the Base stating data 
interface so that you can use Powercode or something similar to hand 
out addresses. I set it up, and it works for DHCP just fine. The 
device you plug into the CPE still gets an EPC  ip address (the EPC is 
the cloud management server or it can also run on your own server, it 
is required and tunnels to the base station).


They are making lots of progress, and if they follow through with new 
LTE revisions, this may very well may be the next new thing. Right 
now, its a work in progress, but works to sell internet for 
residential customers and we are happy with it for our needs.


We power them with a Netonix, off of a POE port. Works great. Just set 
the port to 48VH (only the first port on a WS-8-150, or only the first 
4 ports on a WS-12-250 up to Revision F, and only the first 2 ports on 
WS-12-250 after revision F) and connect orange and blue pairs to 
POSITIVE and green and brown pairs to NEGATIVE. You eat up one port on 
your Netonix if you have a small one, since you still have to connect 
the data cable of course (data port is labeled "WAN" port on the outside).


Hope that helps someone experimenting. There are quite a few tweaks we 
had to do to make them work. Plan on 2 to 4 days of messing with it. 
Support is responsive.


David

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Joe Novak <mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:


Eventually there will be a 1/dollar per month fee per user for the
Cloud EPC. They are working on a local EPC option but it's not
ironed out yet. The monthly user fee is not being charged yet as
far as I know.


Joe

    On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Mitch Koep mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:

Are there any hidden fees

like monthly, cpe based, AP based, number of users?

Core controller?

Thanks



On 04/28/2017 02:59 PM, Jerry Head wrote:

True.


On 4/28/2017 2:43 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Yeah, but the thing I didn't realize before I ordered, was
that there's actually no reason you need to use the Baicells
power cable - the eNB does come with the power connector,
which can easily be put on cable of the appropriate type.

You do need an antenna though... I used a KPP sector.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jerry Head
mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>> wrote:

You also need a power cable as the base station is not POE.


On 4/28/2017 2:30 PM, Tim Alexander wrote:

Hi Jason,

Just to be clear, you probably know this, you do need
an antenna for the AP itself.

The firmware is very much in beta. Rate limiting,
proper l3 routing, l2 bridging (or what passes for it
in LTE world), snmp, and comprehensive management are
still very much works in progress. The cloud EPC also
tends to have issues and goes down randomly. They are
bringing up more instances in Microsoft's azure cloud
and altering some of the ways the tunnel works they
said recently.


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Mailing Address:
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Re: [AFMUG] Most common towers

2017-05-02 Thread Mitch Koep


+100


On 05/02/2017 11:13 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:

We dont do ANY 25G anymore.  Mostly 45G/55G’s.


On May 2, 2017, at 9:48 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
wrote:


Building a new tower mount.  Wondering what are the most popular 
towers.  25G is my guess for #1.

Opinions please.




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Re: [AFMUG] Tower Recommenations

2017-05-06 Thread Mitch Koep


+1000


On 05/06/2017 04:51 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:


I have built Valmont, Pirod, and Sabre all several times.  I like 
Sabre better than any of them. They go together better and I like the 
design better. Especially compared to Valmont SS flanges.  They really 
stack well.



On Sat, May 6, 2017, 4:31 PM can...@believewireless.net 
<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> <mailto:p...@believewireless.net>> wrote:


I was leaning towards self support. I'll check out Pirod from Valmont.

On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Hard to go wrong with a Pirod.  Have done many many Valmonts. 
I would do freestanding. Less twisting than a guyed tower in

my opinion. But more money.  Much larger foundation.  But no
guys and guy anchors to worry about over the years.
*From:* can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Saturday, May 06, 2017 2:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Tower Recommenations
We are looking at a location where we would need to erect a
tower to hold at least two 6ft dishes at 130ft. What type of
tower(s) would you guys recommend?



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Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

2017-05-11 Thread Mitch Koep


fiber still needs power???


On 05/11/2017 03:59 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

This is going to make fiber a lot more attractive in many situations.

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


This could cause problems if true:
http://talkingpointz.com/the-2017-national-electrical-code-is-onerous/
<http://talkingpointz.com/the-2017-national-electrical-code-is-onerous/>
Seems to me, the fire code rules and we are exempt, but I cannot
find a citation to that.




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Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

2017-05-12 Thread Mitch Koep

ock or installations
used exclusively for signaling and communications purposes
*(4) Installations of communications equipment under the
exclusive control of communications utilities located
outdoors or in building spaces used exclusively for such
installations*
(5) Installations under the exclusive control of an electric
utility where such installations
a. Consist of service drops or service laterals, and
associated metering, or
b. Are on property owned or leased by the electric utility
for the purpose of communications, metering, generation,
control, transformation, transmission, energy storage, or
distribution of electric energy, or
c. Are located in legally established easements or
rights-of-way, or
d. Are located by other written agreements either designated
by or recognized by public service commissions, utility
commissions, or other regulatory agencies having jurisdiction
for such installations. These written agreements shall be
limited to installations for the purpose of communications,
metering, generation, control, transformation, transmission,
energy storage, or distribution of electric energy where
legally established easements or rights-of-way cannot be
obtained. These installations shall be limited to federal
lands, Native American reservations through the U.S.
Department of the Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs, military
bases, lands controlled by port authorities and state
agencies and departments, and lands owned by railroads.
*Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may
include those entities that are typically designated or
recognized by governmental law or regulation by public
service/utility commissions and that install, operate, and
maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission,
or distribution systems) or communications systems (such as
telephone, CATV,*
*_Internet, satellite, or data services_). Utilities may be
subject to compliance with codes and standards covering their
regulated activities as adopted under governmental law or
regulation.*
Additional information can be found through consultation with
the appropriate governmental bodies, such as state regulatory
commissions, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and
the Federal Communications Commission.
(C) Special Permission. The authority having jurisdiction for
enforcing this Code may grant exception for the installation
of conductors and equipment that are not under the exclusive
control of the electric utilities and are used to connect the
electric utility supply system to the service conductors of
the premises served, provided such installations are outside
a building or structure, or terminate inside at a readily
accessible location nearest the point of entrance of the
service conductors.



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Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

2017-05-12 Thread Mitch Koep


next question ...

Does this mean each install, new tower, and/or colo require an

electrical permit as well?


On 05/12/2017 01:24 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Yeah, stuff like that.

Bill Prince wrote:
Many of my experiences with electricians running cat5 have wound up 
with bundles of cat5 strapped to romex.   :-(



bp


On 5/12/2017 11:20 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
Most of the electricians I know don't know much about low voltage 
cabling.  They treat the cable like it's Romex.


Steve Jones wrote:
It sounds like this would be worth a WISPA look, considering worst 
case scenario it could price out the bulk of the membership


On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Mitch Koep <mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:


Just got off the phone with our local State Inspector

His take is if the device is outside and NOT getting power

from inside the property it is located at then it is exempt 
(such as


telco and CATV).

If the outdoor device gets power from inside the property

then it is NOT exempt.


Mitch



On 05/12/2017 11:18 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I think the key phrase is this one: "located outdoors or in
building spaces used exclusively for such installations".

I do prefer your interpretation, and I hope you're correct.

If you're not correct, then does the inside of the wall count as
a space used only for utilities?  So maybe if the drop cable
stays inside the wall and then goes to a jack maybe that would
make it all ok?

My brother works for Time Warner / Spectrum, so I asked him if
he'd heard anything about this from the company.  The answer was,
"no but it sounds awesome."  He would actually prefer to stop at
a termination point outside and say, "I'm sorry, I can't touch
any wiring inside your house, the law says only an electrician
can do that.  The service is definitely working out here though."

He might have a point.  The customer would absolutely hate that,
but strictly from a cost and efficiency point of view it might
work out to be a good thing.



-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 5/12/2017 10:39:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn


The whole company and everything we do is not covered.  That is
how I read it.
Not covered:
*Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may
include those entities that are typically designated or
recognized by governmental law or regulation by public
service/utility commissions and that install, operate, and
maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or
distribution systems) or communications systems (such as
telephone, CATV,*
*_Internet, satellite, or data services_). *
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 1:42 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn
Doesn't the note only apply to this exemption:
"(4) Installations of communications equipment under the
exclusive control of communications utilities located outdoors
or in building spaces used exclusively for such installations."

So your CO or NOC would be fine. Probably a phone room as well.
Same with pedestals, outdoor cabinents, and I'd argue the ONT on
the outside of a building.

Hanging an indoor ONT/NID in someone's garage wouldn't be "in
building spaces used exclusively for such installations". 
Neither would an installation in an office space, etc

*
*
*
*
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Chuck McCown 
wrote:

I read it as our entity is not covered.  So everything we 
do.

*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:07 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn
The way I read this, an outdoor ONT is exempt. .. an indoor
one would not be?
On May 11, 2017 4:31 PM, "Chuck McCown"  
wrote:


NFPA 70: DOCUMENT SCOPE
90.2 Scope.
(A) Covered. This Code covers the installation and
removal of electrical conductors, equipment, and
raceways; signaling and communications conductors,
equipment, and raceways; and optical fiber cables and
raceways for the following:
(1) Public and private premises, including buildings,
structures, mobile homes, recreational vehicles, and
floating buildings
(2) Yards, lots, parking lots, carnivals, and industrial
substations
(3) Installations of conductors and equipment that
connect to the supply of electricity
(4) Installations used by the electric utility, su

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-14 Thread Mitch Koep


Support on Face Book???

Your kidding?

Is that the only forum for support?

Mitch


On 05/14/2017 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Have you gone to the Baicells Support Group on Facebook and asked?

Jason McKemie wrote:
I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it 
has a connector for the eNB on one end.


On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says
Baicells is pushing and is over priced.

George Skorup wrote:

Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started,
too. Literally all you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs
w/ SIM cards. The eNB talks to the Baicells CloudCore on the
interwebs.

On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other 
products?


Jason McKemie wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire
cable? The stuff that Baicells is trying to push is
really over priced.

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Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mitch Koep


Rory

Won't that be well over legal limits?

Mitch


On 05/15/2017 08:23 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m 
probably going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered 
frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti 
overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' 
measurements. Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, 
which is effectively bs, the max 99.99% availability reliable range is 
3-4 miles almost anywhere on earth that a substantial number of those 
radios coild be installed.


On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray" 
mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>> wrote:


Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to 
a 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com 
understates their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, 
but the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at 25 dBi.


I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit.

http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized-dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas

-Chris


On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be 
equipped with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. 
The Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design from 15 years ago. Willing 
to bet the Radiowaves 3' and 4' size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at 
gathering unwanted 2.4 noise from the sides...


On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:


Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish.

Rory



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Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mitch Koep


Was under the impression 36dB EIRP was max (if I remember correctly)

Mitch


On 05/15/2017 08:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
2.4's policy is what, every 1 dB decrease in transmit power is a 3 dB 
increase in allowed EIRP? Decrease Tx power 10 dB, increase EIRP 30 dB?




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*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Rory

Won't that be well over legal limits?

Mitch


On 05/15/2017 08:23 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m
probably going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
antenna

Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered
frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand
Ubiquiti overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry
standard' measurements. Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up
to 10miles, which is effectively bs, the max 99.99% availability
reliable range is 3-4 miles almost anywhere on earth that a
substantial number of those radios coild be installed.

On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray"
mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>>
wrote:

Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up
to a 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their
gain, L-Com understates their gain, or if there is another
fundamental difference, but the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at
25 dBi.

I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit.


http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized-dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas

-Chris


On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke
mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and
can be equipped with a (first party or third party) side
shield/radome kit. The Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design
from 15 years ago. Willing to bet the Radiowaves 3' and 4' size
2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering unwanted 2.4 noise from the
sides...

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:

Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish.

Rory


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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor enclosures for WS-12-250-DC

2017-05-15 Thread Mitch Koep


We face them down so if we get water in the

cat5 it runs off to the bottom of the enclosure

and not into the switch.

Mitch


On 05/15/2017 08:43 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

What is the reason for facing them down?

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Am I the only one that finds facing them down infuriating?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Darin Steffl
mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:

We always face the ports down and yes, we mount in a similar
size box like that where it is flat on the backboard.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

You have the ports facing up?  Dang.

I'm doing similar but the ports are facing down.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Josh Baird
mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hard to find one that is deep enough to DIN mount it. 
We have been mounting them flush against the back

plate of enclosures (if we don't have rackmountable
enclosures at the site already).  We do this for both
bottom-of-the-tower and top-of-the-tower builds. Here
is an example.

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Has anyone found a good outdoor enclosure for
these yet?

Life would be pretty damn perfect if they were
made outdoors (fiber and DC up the tower to feed a
WS).

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Direct: 937-552-2343 
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[AFMUG] Broadband Question

2017-01-06 Thread Mitch Koep


Is anyone using Puro Broadband?

Mitch Koep
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Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

2017-01-11 Thread Mitch Koep


Mike

We use UBNT RM9 and KP yagi for shot just like that

for hard to reach customers

With 20Mhz channel they see about 16 to 18 meg thru

Mitch


On 01/10/2017 10:12 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:


Should work quite well. I imagine PDMnet has lots of FSK 900APs and 
SMs for sale.



On Jan 10, 2017 9:32 PM, "Mike Hammett" > wrote:


Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2
mile shot with trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley,
connecting buildings on either side of the river.

It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so there's not
THAT much throughput needed or available. AP at camera side, CPE
at DSL side was my idea.

That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can it?



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[AFMUG] Best Way to implement dual stack IPv4/6

2017-01-14 Thread Mitch Koep


Need some advise on implementing dual stack.

Best practice or practical.

Thanks

Mitch Koep

219-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] turning down the "loudness" of incoming analog lines

2017-01-18 Thread Mitch Koep


Have checked to make sure you do not have tip/ring reversal?

Also confirming these are loop start not ground start?

Does your PBx have any attenuation control (not gain)?

The telco can attenuate the line some but it can be a pain to convince them.

It could also be a bad ground. If you can check that, we used to dump a 
gallon


of water on the ground stake (at the Network Interface)and it would go away

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On 01/18/2017 01:42 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
we have been working with fortinet on a customer who has been 
experiencing alot of echo from the sip PBX on the analog line, there 
is no direct control of the gain, they have provided multiple firmware 
releases lowering the gain to the point we achieved a tolerable number 
of echo instances. The refer to the issue as "loud" incoming analog 
lines.
Is there a mechanism like a x-ohm resister on the tip or something to 
that effect to lower the volume or whatever the appropriate term is?
our next step is to just get an ata to run the analog lines into to 
feed the pbx a controlled line, however im concerned this may just add 
another level of fuckery to the mix


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Re: [AFMUG] Cat5e Patch Cables

2017-01-18 Thread Mitch Koep


Show Me cables

http://www.showmecables.com

Mitch Koep
218-851-8689 cell


On 01/18/2017 03:04 PM, Matt wrote:

Anyone know a cheap source of cat5e patch cables?

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs

2017-01-31 Thread Mitch Koep


Azotel

Mitch Koep

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On 01/31/2017 10:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Powercode

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 31, 2017 11:30 PM, "Sean Heskett" <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:


Intermapper for alerts
Cacti for history


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:27 PM Jason McKemie
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> wrote:

Revisiting this, what are others using for SNMP Monitoring?

    -Jason



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Re: [AFMUG] SCADA porn

2017-02-15 Thread Mitch Koep


Also use fiber on some.

We have installed three for local cities the old system checked

every 48 seconds new is every 4 seconds.

Sometimes it's too fast and needs to be slowed on things link

water tower fill high low limit switches.

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell


On 02/15/2017 09:35 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Mostly Ethernet now on communication side.

On Feb 15, 2017 8:34 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yes

On Feb 15, 2017 8:25 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

so they are using IP to monitor water tank levels?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

We built this bracing system to mount enclosure... Pretty
nifty.

On Feb 8, 2017 7:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Enjoy... 900 and 5GHz






--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] New RO unit for Fabens , Texas

2018-02-13 Thread Mitch Koep


Fails

Too nice for government work lol

looks great


On 2/13/2018 3:55 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Check out this wiring job.  Not done by us ...we will be landing some 
equipment into this panel.  But work is clean.


Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Lake level monitoring

2018-02-17 Thread Mitch Koep


I saw a system that used the same system for Water tower level measuring

Installed a screened culvert vertical, about two feet off the bottom to 
stop


wave action and device float inside the culvert and a PLC controller 
with a radio link


It seemed to work very well

You might want to check and see what is used for sewer ponds as well

Mitch


On 2/16/2018 3:51 PM, Roland Houin wrote:

I have a customer needing to monitor lake levels
need accurate method (gps hopefully) to measure level above msl.


Anybody have any suggestions?


Roland Houin
Fourway.Net

Re: [AFMUG] Help I got abducted!!

2018-02-26 Thread Mitch Koep


Don't bend over


On 2/26/2018 1:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Oh no...The Probe!!!

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 26, 2018 12:28 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:


Working inside a tank..
Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

2018-02-27 Thread Mitch Koep


Hey guys

Maybe time to revisit Azotel

No problems at all for h 7 or 8 years


Mitch


On 2/27/2018 1:52 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I think they ought to setup and customize the server for you if that 
is a requirement.

*From:* Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 12:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal
Agreed. It's awesome that degree of customization and capability is 
there. I suspect most just want the basics.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Sterling Jacobson" 
*To: *"af@afmug.com" 
*Sent: *Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:12:56 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

Again, I'm completely flummoxed by Sonar.

Apparently their customer portal isn't really a part of their system.

Any Sonar customer has to purchase and maintain their own linux system 
to host the web/portal system.
Then that ties into their main system BUT isn't immediately synched up 
with their main system on any changes.


I've had several times where I've been on the phone with customers and 
made a billing change in Sonar and the customer can't see it in the 
portal until an unspecified amount of time goes by and it updates 
magically.


NOW my portal is completely out of the blue not responding to web 
requests and appears offline to my customers, for over a day now.


Sonar can't figure it out and want me to nuke it and start over, which 
if I remember, cost me a few hours of time to arrange DNS, SSH access, 
IPv4/6 changes, firewall, SSL, logo placement etc beyond their initial 
load.


I blame myself for not having set up incremental backups of it.
I'll definitely fix that this time.

But man it would have been so much more simpler if Sonar actually had 
themselves a hosted client page I could slap my logo on and change a 
few CSS color marks.


What a PITA.

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

2018-02-27 Thread Mitch Koep

Josh
Not a penny
Love the product and believe it is great
it has saved me money time and frustration over the years...
I was the very first US customer for Azotel
Mitch

On 2/27/2018 2:49 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
I’d still like to know how much Azotel is paying you to do their
marketing.

On Feb 27, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Mitch Koep <mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:

Hey guys

Maybe time to revisit Azotel

No problems at all for h 7 or 8 years

Mitch

On 2/27/2018 1:52 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I think they ought to setup and customize the server for you if that
is a requirement.

*From:* Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 12:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal
Agreed. It's awesome that degree of customization and capability is
there. I suspect most just want the basics.

<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Sterling Jacobson"
*To: *"af@afmug.com"
*Sent: *Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:12:56 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

Again, I'm completely flummoxed by Sonar.

Apparently their customer portal isn't really a part of their system.

Any Sonar customer has to purchase and maintain their own linux
system to host the web/portal system.
Then that ties into their main system BUT isn't immediately synched
up with their main system on any changes.

I've had several times where I've been on the phone with customers
and made a billing change in Sonar and the customer can't see it in
the portal until an unspecified amount of time goes by and it
updates magically.

NOW my portal is completely out of the blue not responding to web
requests and appears offline to my customers, for over a day now.

Sonar can't figure it out and want me to nuke it and start over,
which if I remember, cost me a few hours of time to arrange DNS, SSH
access, IPv4/6 changes, firewall, SSL, logo placement etc beyond
their initial load.

I blame myself for not having set up incremental backups of it.
I'll definitely fix that this time.

But man it would have been so much more simpler if Sonar actually
had themselves a hosted client page I could slap my logo on and
change a few CSS color marks.

What a PITA.

Re: [AFMUG] Leatherman

2018-02-27 Thread Mitch Koep


+100


On 2/27/2018 3:07 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Gerbers are shit. They have military contracts, so they survive.

I've had 3 gerbers and 3 Leatherman. My 3 gerbers all broke in Iraq.

The last 4 months there I picked up a new wave. I had an old wave for 
probably a decade before it fell out of my pocket in the woods somewhere.


Anyway, I still have the 2nd wave. And a wingman.

Leatherman or bust. Great tools.

On Feb 22, 2018 10:06 PM, "Steve Jones" > wrote:


Ive seen alot of variants, closest in quality was my buddies gerber.
I never was satisfied with a pocket knife, then again i never had
the skill my dad has with his old timer as a multitool.
I think most people whos old man carried a single pocket knife
only used it one time and didnt give it back for his pocket.
Usually a pretty painful lesson to learn.

On Feb 22, 2018 9:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have an Old Timer that is about 24 years old and I got it
used...I appreciate quality toolsI have lost every
Leatherman within months of buying one...

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 22, 2018 8:48 PM, "Steve Jones"
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

I just finally retired my supertool 300, its been
healthily beaten. This harsh sexy beast sacrifices many
bits of iyself. So i picked up a wingman because a little
bit less weight and i miss scissors from my first one.
Plus its got a belt clip, the pouch on the supertool was
worn and broken for over a year before i gave in and
relegated to tool to my pocket to live with my tool.
So i was looking at the warranty on the wingman, turns out
thes bad mothers sport a 25 year warranty... 25 years.

Its like getting a do over with my best friend knowing the
supertool may get another ride on the pony. When it gets
home i may have a party for it. This thing has installed
and repaired a measurable percentage of the network. If i
had tear ducts instead of hate valves, id do that wet eye
shit that sallys do.

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

2018-02-27 Thread Mitch Koep


Azotel has 24 hour support???


On 2/27/2018 6:18 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
We're closed right now. Nobody is going to respond until tomorrow. You 
can give them a call in the morning as well if you'd like to.


On 2/27/2018 6:15 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:


I’ve been responding to support emails from your team, and just sent 
another email just now.


Not getting a lot of response back.

I figured out how to reset it with digitalocean, so I can do that, 
just not sure if your team is working on it as is, or if they want it 
reset now?


They need to reply to my emails.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

You just reload the OS through DigitalOcean. Nothing will change with 
the IP.


If you work through this with our support team, it will be a quick 
and painless process.


On 2/27/2018 5:55 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

The problem with wiping is that I’m not guaranteed the same IP
address.

There is a lot tied to that IP address now.

A and  name records, email server records to allow relay,
firewall config etc.

I’m not sure digital ocean has an option to just nuke an image in
place?

How do I do that with a droplet?

Or is there a ubuntu option that I can run from within, that just
resets the whole damn install to initial config?

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 4:15 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

There is only one way to install it. It has never used nginx. The
step by step walk through is at
https://github.com/SonarSoftware/customer_portal/wiki.

We are happy to install it for you, if you wipe the server out so
we can just walk through the install process. There is no
customer login information in the portal. It is stored inside
Sonar. This can be solved very quickly with a fresh server, and
just letting our staff set it up for you.

On 2/27/2018 4:41 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

That’s what I was hoping with this, but no, out of the blue
it decided to just corrupt or something.

They got it working to the degree that it shows up now, but
they had to disable nginx and run Apache.

Which is odd, because I think someone else from their company
originally got in and used nginx instead of Apache.

So their left hand doesn’t appear to know what their right
hand is doing.

Anywho, it’s still F’ed up because I lost my logo, and
apparently all of the customer defined login information for
the portal too?

Not sure, but no one can actually log in to pay yet.

It’s killing me and my customers right now.

Cassidy, is yours running Apache or nginx?

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Cassidy B. Larson
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:25 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

I have had zero issues with their portal code. Just stock
ubuntu VM then follow their install instructions and done.
Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

I customized the logo and some text on the main page via the
config file, but that was really it. I haven’t looked at it
much since.

-- 


Cassidy B. Larson
CTO - InfoWest, Inc.
Voice: 435-773-6073
c...@infowest.com 





On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson
mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:

Again, I'm completely flummoxed by Sonar.

Apparently their customer portal isn't really a part of
their system.

Any Sonar customer has to purchase and maintain their own
linux system to host the web/portal system.
Then that ties into their main system BUT isn't
immediately synched up with their main system on any changes.

I've had several times where I've been on the phone with
customers and made a billing change in Sonar and the
customer can't see it in the portal until an unspecified
amount of time goes by and it updates magically.

NOW my portal is completely out of the blue not
responding to web requests and appears offline to my
customers, for over a day now.

Sonar can't figure it out and want me to nuke it and
start over, which if I remember, cost me a few hours of
time to arrange DNS, SSH access, IPv4/6 changes,
firewall, SSL, logo placement etc beyond their initial load.

I blame myself for not having set up incre

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

2018-02-27 Thread Mitch Koep


Chuck

It ain't even summer yet



On 2/27/2018 6:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I know my forehead brain is toasted today...
*From:* Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

Ah, that explains it.

I’ll follow up tomorrow, thanks for your help/responses Simon.

I guess I’ll just go home too.

Customers don’t use their internet after hours anyways 😊

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:19 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

We're closed right now. Nobody is going to respond until tomorrow. You 
can give them a call in the morning as well if you'd like to.


On 2/27/2018 6:15 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

I’ve been responding to support emails from your team, and just
sent another email just now.

Not getting a lot of response back.

I figured out how to reset it with digitalocean, so I can do that,
just not sure if your team is working on it as is, or if they want
it reset now?

They need to reply to my emails.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

You just reload the OS through DigitalOcean. Nothing will change
with the IP.

If you work through this with our support team, it will be a quick
and painless process.

On 2/27/2018 5:55 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

The problem with wiping is that I’m not guaranteed the same IP
address.

There is a lot tied to that IP address now.

A and  name records, email server records to allow relay,
firewall config etc.

I’m not sure digital ocean has an option to just nuke an image
in place?

How do I do that with a droplet?

Or is there a ubuntu option that I can run from within, that
just resets the whole damn install to initial config?

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon
Westlake
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 4:15 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

There is only one way to install it. It has never used nginx.
The step by step walk through is at
https://github.com/SonarSoftware/customer_portal/wiki.

We are happy to install it for you, if you wipe the server out
so we can just walk through the install process. There is no
customer login information in the portal. It is stored inside
Sonar. This can be solved very quickly with a fresh server,
and just letting our staff set it up for you.

On 2/27/2018 4:41 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

That’s what I was hoping with this, but no, out of the
blue it decided to just corrupt or something.

They got it working to the degree that it shows up now,
but they had to disable nginx and run Apache.

Which is odd, because I think someone else from their
company originally got in and used nginx instead of Apache.

So their left hand doesn’t appear to know what their right
hand is doing.

Anywho, it’s still F’ed up because I lost my logo, and
apparently all of the customer defined login information
for the portal too?

Not sure, but no one can actually log in to pay yet.

It’s killing me and my customers right now.

Cassidy, is yours running Apache or nginx?

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Cassidy B. Larson
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:25 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

I have had zero issues with their portal code. Just stock
ubuntu VM then follow their install instructions and done.
Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

I customized the logo and some text on the main page via
the config file, but that was really it. I haven’t looked
at it much since.

-- 


Cassidy B. Larson
CTO - InfoWest, Inc.
Voice: 435-773-6073
c...@infowest.com






On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson
 wrote:

Again, I'm completely flummoxed by Sonar.

Apparently their customer portal isn't really a part
of their system.

Any Sonar customer has to purchase and maintain their
own linux system to host the web/portal system.
Then that ties into their main system BUT isn't
immediately synched up with their main system on any

Re: [AFMUG] From AnimalFarm - Cambium LTE

2018-03-07 Thread Mitch Koep


Anybody close to StreakWave??

Collon Nichols is there and I need him to call me lol

Mitch Koep
218-851-8689 cell

Thank you


On 3/7/2018 10:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Matt gave a date, countdown clock has started!!
*From:* Aaron Schneider
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2018 9:43 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] From AnimalFarm - Cambium LTE

That slide was more of an example of the potential of separating the 
BBU from the RRH and wasn’t meant to be a statement of roadmap. :)  
But that’s a good catch, Chuck.


As stated in other emails, its 2.5G first and unlicensed coming later.

Aaron

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 7, 2018 8:48 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] From AnimalFarm - Cambium LTE

cnRanger

They expect to have better interference mitigation than existing LTE 
products.


Should be have better range and coverage than PMP.

Multiple remote radio heads with one base base band unit.

Showing 2.5 3.5 and 5 GHz on the slide.

*From:*Chuck McCown

*Sent:*Wednesday, March 07, 2018 7:45 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*[AFMUG] >From AnimalFarm - Cambium LTE

Cambium is announcing LTE.   At least this was news to me.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Mitch Koep


What kind of present? cash trip lol


On 3/8/2018 1:30 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

If you present, they will come
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on
What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to 
sponsor.
Going to start to put together the agenda. Very short sessions like 
always.

Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM
FTTH network topology
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ GPON
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ AE
Pros and cons
OSP Network Components
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Costs and Features
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Cable
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Conduit
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Handholes
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Splice Cases
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Splitters
Cabinets
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Cross boxes
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Electronics
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Powering and cooling
Fiber
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Splicing
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Connectors
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Engineering considerations
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Costs
NOC
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ MT FTTH in a box solution
Day 2:ï¿½ Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor Enclosure

2018-03-10 Thread Mitch Koep


https://amprod.us/?s=mini+fort

We have a few of these and they have been great


On 3/9/2018 9:43 PM, Jon Lee wrote:
I'm sure there is something purpose built for the application, but 
something that came to mind is an under body truck box. They are 
weather tight and sturdy.


On Mar 9, 2018 3:53 PM, "Matt" > wrote:


Looking for outdoor enclosure that will hold a Packetflux RackInjector
and Mikrotik rack mount 24 port CRS.  Something small enough I can
pole mount.  Anyone know of anything?

Re: [AFMUG] How far from a tower is safe?

2018-03-22 Thread Mitch Koep


very windy clear day

BUT

It was raining 

HMMM

Guess was not far enough away

Mitch



On 3/16/2018 11:39 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
I've never been hit by any  falling items staying 20% of the height 
away. OTOH, if there is a stiff wind, I might just increase my safety 
margin to 30%, 40%, or 50%.


--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Lewis Bergman 
mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yes. Stand up wind. If guyed, stand 2/3 of the way out of the guy
length. If not 20 percent of the tower height on up wind side.

Of course I just made all that up. I usually like to stand next to
something I can jump under, like my truck or trailer.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 10:25 AM Jay Weekley
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

I've heard there is a formula to determine how far from a
tower someone
can be to be safe from objects that are dropped. You know,
wrenches
etc.  Can anyone give me some quick guidance?

Re: [AFMUG] Getting gooder at this

2018-03-28 Thread Mitch Koep


But you used the wrong size LOL


On 3/28/2018 8:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Installed tubing for gas sensors...we have to custom cut and bend 
around existing pipes...


Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

2018-03-29 Thread Mitch Koep


Our APC 3000's are in water towers (5) ambient temp

-40 to -60 F and they have been up for 6 years.

We got them from UPS4less for about 600.00 each.

One I am replacing this month it has been in

our Water tower #1 since 2006 with no problems.

Mitch Koep


On 3/28/2018 10:24 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


We did as well. Love it they simply stop passing power though at all. 
So DEAD site.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:31 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

We’ve had upss  simply shut down below freezing which is totally not cool

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yeah temperature compensation is an oft overlooked feature.

-- Original Message --

From: "Jon Langeler" mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>>

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Sent: 3/27/2018 7:13:57 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

How do they handle say 0 deg F?

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net>> wrote:

OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP.

However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500)
with Lithium Ion batteries is a nice little unit that
comes with built in ethernet.   It does have email
alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your
phones.   We like them for micro sites.

Adam

*From:* Af [_mailto:af-bounces@afmug.com_] *On Behalf Of
*Justin Marshall
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM
*To:* _af@afmug.com_ <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

Hi,

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that
can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet?

Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require
external batteries?

Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with
proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc…

Thanks,

Justin

[AFMUG] Build a 100 foot tower in El PAso

2018-04-12 Thread Mitch Koep


Hi all,

A friend is looking for someone to build a 100 foot tower in El Paso

for 6 LTE antennas.

Any referrals?

Thanks

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Help!!!

2018-04-12 Thread Mitch Koep


You might check with Scan Source they usually have

Mitch


On 4/12/2018 3:40 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

I've got one too, that I can sell you if it helps...

I think pretty much everywhere is out of stock right now. Streakwave 
told me they where expecting them any day... but that was a couple of 
weeks ago (I'm waiting for low band), and they may have already sold 
everything they had coming anyway.


You can try ubnt.com/stock 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Jesse DuPont 
mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>> 
wrote:


I've got one...

*_Jesse DuPont_*

Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net

Celerity Networks LLC

Celerity Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com /celeritynetworksllc

Like us! facebook.com /celeritybroadband

On 4/12/18 2:14 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Need 6 AirFiber 11fx high band duplexors asap?  Who has them?

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Mitch Koep


Steve

I feel for you

We took our granddaughter when she was 9 months old and she just turned 8

When son was busted for Meth

Last two years alone the step son got 2500.00 for attorney, a 5000.00  
car, 1800.00 for a no insurance ticket.


Before that I was done BUT wife's son so rather than fight it was pay...

I feel you but the shinning thing in our life that makes it ok for me is 
Hannalou


She is the best thing we could have done

So look to the kids if you can and be there for them and hopefully the 
rest will work out


Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell


On 4/17/2018 12:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16 
doses od suboxone (essentially heroin) 11.8 grams of bath salts. other 
misch controlled substance pills as well as delivery of meth charges.

fucking bath salts

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dave <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:


I hear the same shit as lewis and the sheriff mentioned that Every
vehicle that is pulled over has some form of drug or paraphernalia
in it.
Meth is the demon drug that will cause even the most humble become
demented.
A peer of my rank in the army said "That some were just not meant
to breed!" We laughed about it but I do believe there is some
truth to that.



On 04/15/2018 05:11 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I think Meth answers all your "why" questions. Since I deal with
almost every sheriff in and most every drug focused law
enforcement I hear a lot of their stories. One of them tells me
that 95%+ of crime is drug related. CPS type problems they put at
about 80% with the remaining 15% made of of perverts that should
probably be castrated upon a verdict.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 10:03 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I had a similar situation.  Rather my wife did.  We took the
kids in (her sister’s kids).
Very similar situation, neglected, abused, drugs etc.
One of the parents got them back for a while, then the other.
Those kids still think of my wife as “mom”.  They are all
grown up with grandkids of their own now.
One of them is a solid cop in Reno. The other has not turned
out so well.
The world needs standup guys like you.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:00 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents
You folks get my vent because i cant anywherr else. So like 7
years ago we took in my old ladys nephews because, well
fuckwit parents. FYI the foster care system is aweful. We
fostered them for a year and half while her brother and baby
momma sorted their shit, or so we thought. The 18 month old
at the time had a club foot, i had to build a sleeping rig
with some shoes with the ankles hooked together and the toes
locked outward with a ruler, i worked his legs in and out til
his hip popped one night, i thought i broke his hip, but it
was just something going back. The 4 year old you couldbt
understand cause they thought baby talk was cute so they
never taught him to speak. We fixed that, and that was the
least bad of the fuckery. This was me, the old lady,
a1,2,4,and 5 year old with our 2 in a tiny 2 bedroom.
Finally got these boys shaped up and bought a house for room,
and a week later they gave them back to the mom. The old
ladies brother never did what he was supposed to.
Now today was their grandmas (my old ladies step moms)
funeral, so whats this trashcan do? Gets arrested for selling
fucking meth
So dealing with all that comes with a funeral, we had to be
late dealing with the child services people. Get all that
squared away, get through the funeral and now find out we
also get the joy of headlice.
Seriously, fucking shit fuck. How do people do this shit to
kids, theyre not just a thing you have while doing other things.
Im not lawfully allowed to discuss any of this with anyone
who is remotely involved, i figure none of you are.
But seriously, what the fuck, you get your kids back and sell
meth. And theyre already asking if they sign their righys if
they can see the kids still.
I have very few skills, and none of rhem involve the ability
to not want to feed these people lead



--

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

2018-05-01 Thread Mitch Koep

I got into a jam and ordered from Amazon and a third party re seller 
sent me


non US products. I had to ship them all back

Should have waited for my normal supplier LOL

Mitch


On 5/1/2018 2:48 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:


I also note, that we ordered US radios, and they were out of stock so 
we get non-us radios shipped to us before…


*From:*Af  *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian 
(List Account)

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:15 PM
*To:* af 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

I went and pulled the FCC cert for the FCC ID that they gave, 
definitely only certified for 5.7 in the US.


I figure there are two options here:

1) They're knowingly using a non-US radio in the US, or they've 
otherwise hacked the US radio to operate outside of the band.   In 
this case, good luck to them.


2) Somehow they've gotten a non-US radio in the US without knowing, 
and/or the UBNT software didn't limit them to the US bands for some 
reason.  In this case, I hope that they can plead ignorance, and treat 
it as a learning experience.


A lot of the problem anymore is that there are so many different 
iterations of radios out there, and as a result, it can be difficult 
to keep track of which bands each is legal for.  If the radios don't 
enforce it, there's a good chance that someone will 
unintentionally turn a radio up on a band the radio isn't authorized 
for.  On the other hand, one would think that you'd be aware of TWDR 
and avoid that frequency range like the plague


On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Mathew Howard > wrote:


It says it was a Rocket5 AC Prism... I don't think those ever had
updated stickers (I could be wrong, but that's a relatively new
design, which I think was after all that nonsense). I wonder if it
was the non-US model...

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Seth Mattinen mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:

On 5/1/18 10:51, Tim Hardy wrote:

LV.NET  ; LAS VEGAS, NEVADA
ï¿½89104. ï¿½ï¿½Notice of Unlicensed Operation and
Notification of Harmful Interference issued for
interference complaint to FAA Terminal Doppler Weather
Radar operating on 5645 MHz in Las Vegas, Nevada. Action
by: ï¿½Regional Director, Region Three, Enforcement
Bureau. Adopted: ï¿½04/27/2018 by Notice. ï¿½EB
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-350491A1.docx
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-350491A1.pdf



Only an idiot would use a TDWR frequency anywhere near an
airport with one. That's just challenging someone to come find
you.

Is that an DFS unlock code with updated sticker required model
they were using, but didn't bother to actually put the new
sticker on it?



--

*Forrest Christian*/CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602

forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

2018-05-01 Thread Mitch Koep


The World version I got

did not have a US option

Mitch


On 5/1/2018 3:51 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

They do

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, May 1, 2018, 2:24 PM Jay Weekley <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


I always assumed the international version would have the U.S. as
an option.



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
    From: Mitch Koep mailto:af...@abwisp.com>>
Date: 5/1/18 3:14 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

I got into a jam and ordered from Amazon and a third party re
seller sent me

non US products. I had to ship them all back

Should have waited for my normal supplier LOL

Mitch


On 5/1/2018 2:48 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:


I also note, that we ordered US radios, and they were out of
stock so we get non-us radios shipped to us before…

*From:*Af  <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>
*On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:15 PM
*To:* af  <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

I went and pulled the FCC cert for the FCC ID that they gave,
definitely only certified for 5.7 in the US.

I figure there are two options here:

1) They're knowingly using a non-US radio in the US, or they've
otherwise hacked the US radio to operate outside of the band. 
 In this case, good luck to them.

2) Somehow they've gotten a non-US radio in the US without
knowing, and/or the UBNT software didn't limit them to the US
bands for some reason.  In this case, I hope that they can plead
ignorance, and treat it as a learning experience.

A lot of the problem anymore is that there are so many different
iterations of radios out there, and as a result, it can be
difficult to keep track of which bands each is legal for.  If the
radios don't enforce it, there's a good chance that someone will
unintentionally turn a radio up on a band the radio isn't
authorized for.  On the other hand, one would think that you'd be
aware of TWDR and avoid that frequency range like the plague

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It says it was a Rocket5 AC Prism... I don't think those ever
had updated stickers (I could be wrong, but that's a
relatively new design, which I think was after all that
nonsense). I wonder if it was the non-US model...

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Seth Mattinen
mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:

On 5/1/18 10:51, Tim Hardy wrote:

LV.NET <http://LV.NET> <http://LV.NET>; LAS VEGAS,
NEVADA ï¿½89104. ï¿½ï¿½Notice of Unlicensed Operation
and Notification of Harmful Interference issued for
interference complaint to FAA Terminal Doppler
Weather Radar operating on 5645 MHz in Las Vegas,
Nevada. Action by: ï¿½Regional Director, Region
Three, Enforcement Bureau. Adopted: ï¿½04/27/2018 by
Notice. ï¿½EB
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-350491A1.docx
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-350491A1.pdf



Only an idiot would use a TDWR frequency anywhere near an
airport with one. That's just challenging someone to come
find you.

Is that an DFS unlock code with updated sticker required
model they were using, but didn't bother to actually put
the new sticker on it?



-- 


*Forrest Christian*/CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602

forre...@imach.com <mailto:forre...@imach.com> |
http://www.packetflux.com <http://www.packetflux.com/>

<http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
<http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-30 Thread Mitch Koep


Ours died in the first month (3 of them)

We are looking for a better more rigged device

Mitch


On 5/25/2018 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
We sent a couple in and got them replaced.  Blue one works just fine 
but the red one needs a zip tie for the cat5 (again).



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:17 AM, David Coudron 
mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> 
wrote:


Yep, we use the Powerlink for installs as well.   With that, the
entire install process can be done from the phone, which makes
things very portable and quick.   We use the mAP for tower tech
work.  The only issue we have with the Powerlinks is that they can
be a little fragile, we really have to protect the Ethernet ports
or they break.

Regards,

David Coudron

*From:* Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>
*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:21 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

We love the bigger Powerlink (wouldn't waste time on the smaller one)

Work trucks have Toughbooks. There are some holes in them and all
kinds of dropped on concrete scuffs.  They still work. We'll
replace them when they get super slow/battery doesn't last a work day.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St


Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Jeremy mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

+1 we also use Powerlink, and they are amazing.

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Dave mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

We started using the Powerlink from link technologies.
So far our guys love em. The POE and wireless are built in.
a full charge will last them the whole day.



On 05/21/2018 01:10 PM, David Coudron wrote:

Very true.   However, we found that if we have to
carry the USB dongle anyway, that carrying the mAP
instead gave us much more freedom and reliability (the
USB dongles seemed a little flaky, if they got pulled
sideways in the port, they didn’t work).   We could
even sit in the truck and work on the equipment
without having to run a cable to cabinet, etc. Or have
two techs connected to the cabinet at the same time.
However, there are lots of ways to skin this cat as
you mention 😊  Probably the biggest thing is that you
can connect to the network using a phone rather than
just an ethernet port based device like a laptop.

Regards,

David Coudron

**

**

**

*From:* Af 
 *On Behalf Of *Dave
*Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 11:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field
Laptop

USB ethernet fixes that :)

On 05/21/2018 09:12 AM, David Coudron wrote:

We have been using the Mikrotik mAP in the same
fashion as Steve mentions with some pretty good
results. Put IP addresses on the one interface as
needed and then connect wirelessly. We were
killing EIthernet ports too often due to the
stiffer shielded patch cables and cable runs on
our tower sites. They just put too much pressure
on kinds of Ethernet ports many laptops have. 
Now, it is getting tougher to find a decently thin
laptop with an Ethernet port anyway.

Additionally the techs are doing everything they
can from their phones these days.   Normal Mimosa
installs are entirely phone based.   Our main tech
avoids the laptop like the plague.   We can
firmware update the client radios, configure the
radio, make the customer active in Powercode, etc
all from the phone.   We really only use the
laptop and mAP for tower work now, and much of
that has moved to the phones too.

Regards,

David Coudron

*From:* Af 
 *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 9:06 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

2018-06-01 Thread Mitch Koep


https://www.ospinsight.com/desktop-overview


On 6/1/2018 4:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

QGIS is very useful and open source (as in free).

Nothing specific for fiber mapping in it but it could pretty easily be 
used for it if I was ambitious enough to put all the info in.


Mark

On Jun 1, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote:


For basic needs, the advantage of doing mapping using Google Earth 
Pro is that most "serious" GIS packages support import and export 
to/from the XML format Google Earth uses. A line on the map on Google 
Earth or a multi-segmented line is just a collection of vector 
placemarks in a XML file with lat/long coordinates, with metadata 
describing the thickness of the line, the color of the line, how many 
intermediate points are on the line, and so forth.


The best organizational advice I can give is to use folders and 
subfolders in Google Earth Pro appropriately to sort projects, so 
that you don't end up with a single folder that contains 500 unnamed 
lines. Might look fine when viewed on a map but can become an 
organization nightmare.


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Cassidy B. Larson > wrote:


Last topic I see on this was from 2014. So maybe it’s time to
review and ask again? What are you guys using for fiber mapping,
now in 2018?

In 2014 I read:
Craig was doing google earth and excel sheets.
Chuck Hogg was using Manifold (kinda), and some Google Maps Engine.
Mike H was using ArcMap for his clients.
A few other google sheets.

What’s changed, what’s new, what’re you using today? Same as
before?  Something different? Why?

-c

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Mitch Koep


Rory

Careful too bulky to maneuver on a man lift let alone

line up and twist into place

Mitch


On 05/16/2017 03:33 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:


I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

These are not real fun

Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and

a good crane operator

Mitch

On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

16’ dish

*From:*Mathew Howard

*Sent:*Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM

*To:*af

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
antenna

Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have
some kind of a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea
of what's going to happen when you get bigger dishes on there.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:

The amount of revenue is high enough that the cost of the
antenna isn’t an issue.  It’s more important that the link work.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
Howard
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna

Putting up an 8' dish without having any idea what it's going
to do seems kind of risky - I'd assume that's not going to be
cheap to put that up. I would want to put up some kind of a
test link before I went there, even if it was just a pair of
PowerBeams.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:

I ran the numbers in linkplanner. Too much tree variable for
anything to be accurate.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A.
Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM


*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna

Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your
outcome, use the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your
calcs, add the foliage and voila!

*From: *Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory Conaway
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Date: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna

Not in this case.  If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on
the tower they run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7
T1’s for 300 kids) or the medical clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m
thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down or trim a mile
of trees.

Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a
plan, just be patient”.  Not really my strong suit. This plan
involves towers but nobody knows who gets awarded or when.   
So, 2.4GHz through a mile of trees, here I come.


I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want
to have to pay tower climbers so do this twice.  I’m going to
do the 8’ dish on the tower and 2’ dish on the roof.  Once I
see those numbers, I can make adjustments on the roof. 
Biggest issue is AF2 through trees.  I’m thinking that I’m

bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare.  I’m
also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup
with a Yagi.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna

Actually, you would be surprised.  I have asked them to remove
trees in a microwave path before and they had no problem doing
it.

/*Gino A. Villarini*/

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

*From:*Rory Conaway

*Sent:*Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2
MIMO antenna

I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S.
Forestry service frowns on that.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
*Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:

Re: [AFMUG] Liability insurance

2017-05-16 Thread Mitch Koep

Chris Danielson

651-216-5757

Just spoke to him nationwide will give him a shot and see

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell

On 05/16/2017 04:25 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Does Unitel handle this Nation Wide, or just certain states ? I would 
not mind if you could share a contact.

Thanks.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

*From: *"Jesse Dupont" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:11:58 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Liability insurance

We started out using our local agent (didn't know where else to go
initially). We ultimately got it all done, but over the years, the
premium has continued to grow and grow and grow. Part of the issue
is that if an underwriter doesn't truly understand a risk, they
characterize said risk higher than one would that does understand
it. We have recently moved to Unitel, who does do this largely
only for communications companies, and the annual savings is very
significant. You should at least obtain quotes from them to
compare to a local business insurance agent or broker.

*From:* Af  on behalf of Faisal Imtiaz

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:48:16 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Liability insurance
Do you purchase any kind of insurance ? if you do, chances are you
are already dealing with and insurance agent.. Start with them...

Or find a local insurance agent (Business insurance) and they will
be able to get you business liability insurance.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Brett A Mansfield" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:00:53 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Liability insurance

> Who does everyone use for comprehensive liability insurance? I
need to have a $2
> million per incident coverage for an upcoming project and I'm
not even sure
> where to start looking.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield

--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Customer agreements and signature

2017-05-16 Thread Mitch Koep


Also can be done in Azotel


On 05/16/2017 04:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

You can do it in powercode as well

On May 16, 2017 2:33 PM, "Cameron Crum" <mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:


Tim, this is a part of Wispmon. I was just letting people know the
options available.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Tim Reichhart
mailto:timreichh...@hometowncable.net>> wrote:

Cameron
what software are you using to do this with on digital part of it?

Tim



-Original Message-
From: "Cameron Crum" mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Date: 05/16/17 02:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer agreements and signature

We give users both options. They can build a template to
pre-send when a work order is created and they can also
sign the tech's phone or tablet so you have a digital
signature upon work order completion. They can also set a
welcome letter to be emailed that can include the contract
once the work order is complete.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Tim Reichhart
mailto:timreichh...@hometowncable.net>> wrote:

I do paper one copy to customer and one for me.



-Original Message-
From: "Darin Steffl" mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>>
To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>,
af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Date: 05/16/17 01:52 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Customer agreements and signature

Hello all,

We've never done contracts for residential before
so wondering how you all do this. Do you have
paper copies that are signed during the install or
do you send something electronically before the
install to have signed?

If you're electronic, what service do you use for
this to have customers sign?

Thank you



--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
507-634-WiFi
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>





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A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Releases

2017-05-16 Thread Mitch Koep


Here is a link to the release descriptions for 3G

http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Information/WORK_PLAN/Description_Releases/

This is a very good explanation of 4G vs 4G LTE

https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-4G-and-4G-LTE


On 05/16/2017 08:39 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Don't the newer revisions have NLOS and/or throughput improvements?

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017, Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:


Pure speculation incoming...

Those chips are cheap now. Also, the mobility enhancements made
since then don't really have an advantage for static ptmp links.

- Josh

On May 16, 2017 6:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"
>
wrote:

So can someone who knows something about LTE releases explain
these to me?  It looks like the Baicells stuff is R9, which,
according 3gpp.org <http://3gpp.org> was started in March of
2008 and ended in March of 2010.  So why, in 2017, is Baicells
using this release?

-Jason



--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Climbing helmets

2017-05-16 Thread Mitch Koep


+100 GME


On 05/16/2017 10:08 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Petzl, I just got mine from Tessco but I'd look at GME next time


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Jay Weekley 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


It's time for new climbing helmets.  What are your favorites and
where do you get them?




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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti question for the Borg?

2017-05-17 Thread Mitch Koep


What radios and firmware? bridge or router mode?

We had problems with the PLCs not radios

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell



On 05/17/2017 10:36 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
We have a SCADA network with Ubiquiti radios, toughswitches and 
Rockwell PLCs that are showing some timeouts. The links come back up 
on their own but wonder if the issue is radios or toughswitches?  
Another engineer friend has noticed same thing with similar setup in 
system in Hobbs.  I have run diagnostics yet ...what should I look 
for? Thanks Jaime


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Re: [AFMUG] Climbing helmets

2017-05-17 Thread Mitch Koep


Tower guys pick their own except I require bright

yellow or florescent green for climbers

and we use white  for ground crew

Mitch Koep

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On 05/17/2017 10:38 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Which do you like best?

https://www.gmesupply.com/ppe-work-wear/head-protection/climbing-rescue-helmets/petzl_vented


Mitch Koep wrote:


+100 GME


On 05/16/2017 10:08 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Petzl, I just got mine from Tessco but I'd look at GME next time


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Jay Weekley 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


It's time for new climbing helmets.  What are your favorites and
where do you get them?




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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti question for the Borg?

2017-05-17 Thread Mitch Koep


I will assume all bridge mode with WDS enabled

and router giving PLCs the IP or static assigned to PLCs??

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell



On 05/17/2017 01:02 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
We have Rocket M5 and M9 as AP , and NanoBeams as Remotes.  The logs 
don't show reboots or other issues.  I think it might be PLC issue as 
well.


On May 17, 2017 11:58 AM, "Mitch Koep" <mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:


What radios and firmware? bridge or router mode?

We had problems with the PLCs not radios

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689  cell




On 05/17/2017 10:36 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

We have a SCADA network with Ubiquiti radios, toughswitches
and Rockwell PLCs that are showing some timeouts. The links
come back up on their own but wonder if the issue is radios or
toughswitches?  Another engineer friend has noticed same thing
with similar setup in system in Hobbs.  I have run diagnostics
yet ...what should I look for? Thanks Jaime


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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti question for the Borg?

2017-05-17 Thread Mitch Koep


Is it system wide or is one AP or the other?



On 05/17/2017 01:02 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
We have Rocket M5 and M9 as AP , and NanoBeams as Remotes.  The logs 
don't show reboots or other issues.  I think it might be PLC issue as 
well.


On May 17, 2017 11:58 AM, "Mitch Koep" <mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:


What radios and firmware? bridge or router mode?

We had problems with the PLCs not radios

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689  cell




On 05/17/2017 10:36 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

We have a SCADA network with Ubiquiti radios, toughswitches
and Rockwell PLCs that are showing some timeouts. The links
come back up on their own but wonder if the issue is radios or
toughswitches?  Another engineer friend has noticed same thing
with similar setup in system in Hobbs.  I have run diagnostics
yet ...what should I look for? Thanks Jaime


-- 
Mitch Koep


A Better Wireless
218-851-8689  cell




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A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti question for the Borg?

2017-05-17 Thread Mitch Koep


We had to set the timing a little longer so

the PLC did not see a failure with one ping drop


On 05/17/2017 01:25 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Bridged and static IPs ...no Internet access. They are checking one 
PLC right now...


On May 17, 2017 12:09 PM, "Mitch Koep" <mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:


I will assume all bridge mode with WDS enabled

and router giving PLCs the IP or static assigned to PLCs??

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689  cell



On 05/17/2017 01:02 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

We have Rocket M5 and M9 as AP , and NanoBeams as Remotes.  The
logs don't show reboots or other issues.  I think it might be PLC
issue as well.

On May 17, 2017 11:58 AM, "Mitch Koep" mailto:af...@abwisp.com>> wrote:

What radios and firmware? bridge or router mode?

We had problems with the PLCs not radios

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689  cell




On 05/17/2017 10:36 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

We have a SCADA network with Ubiquiti radios,
toughswitches and Rockwell PLCs that are showing some
timeouts. The links come back up on their own but wonder
if the issue is radios or toughswitches?  Another
engineer friend has noticed same thing with similar setup
in system in Hobbs.  I have run diagnostics yet ...what
should I look for? Thanks Jaime


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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

2017-05-19 Thread Mitch Koep


Hope the job comes with a "Get out of Jail Free" card


On 05/19/2017 09:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Isn't this where they are tearing out equipment and arresting people 
for providing internet?


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:35 AM, Ken Patrick <mailto:patr...@my9ja.com>> wrote:


Hi,

Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
We have been covered in Techcrunch

<https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/17/tizeti-is-bringing-wireless-internet-to-urban-africa/>
and Muniwireless
<http://muniwireless.com/2014/07/21/lekki-wi-fi-network-nigeria-ubiquiti/>.
We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience
than below.

*_Chief Technology Officer – CTO_*

TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in
Lagos, Nigeria


*_ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES_*

·Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of
projects to insure that they have the potential to add value to
the company, Explain company products and future plans to the
trade media

·Participating in government and industry groups

·Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate strategy

·Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
generate the highest rate of return

·Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of the
company

·Developing new products based on new technology

·Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering

·Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with people
from all types of backgrounds.

*_Requirements_*

This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing
TIZETI Inc. activities of communications, computer operations,
systems management, and network administration and programming
functions.

·Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom field
and role in Senior Management.

·Experience with Cisco Networking equipment

·Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network

·Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks

·Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks

·Working Knowledge of Linux

·Knowledge of PHP is an Asset

·Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria

*_APPLICATION PROCESS_*

Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
<mailto:car...@tizeti.com?subject=Application%20for%20CTO%20Position> or
reply to me.

*__*

*_About TIZETI_*

TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng <http://Wifi.com.ng> is the Wireless
“ISP for Africa”. We are backed by Y Combinator and are leveraging
the large wireless capacity available with Wi-fi and plummeting
cost of solar panels to create a low capex/opex network of owned &
operated towers to offer disruptive, customer-friendly pricing for
unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos, Nigeria and we are
expanding to the South South Region as well as other cities in
West Africa.





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Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license.

2017-05-19 Thread Mitch Koep


Brandon

Hit me off list

Mitch Koep

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mi...@abwisp.com


On 05/19/2017 09:35 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 5/19/17 7:31 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

What options exist right now for getting a license to use 3.65 gear? For
example if we wanted to try out some of the LTE gear available.





You would need to buy one from someone who isn't using it.

~Seth



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Re: [AFMUG] Water tower lease survey to satisfy my town commisioners

2017-05-19 Thread Mitch Koep

We pay 50.00/month per attachment (min of 3) and pay the city 
35.00/month for electricity


or

We have our own meter put in just saves money to pay them

Mitch


On 05/19/2017 01:51 PM, Al Rachide wrote:
We are wanting to rent space on our town's water tower, but the 
commissioners want an idea as to what is a fair and proper annual or 
monthly lease payment for this. This tower has a fiber connection near 
it, so it may be worth a bit more than a non lit water tower. How do 
you handle the electric? We have head that some include it in the 
lease, while others require a separate metered service for the WISP.


Thanks, in advance, for any help we can get on this.

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Eastern Carolina Broadband
Pink Hill, NC
252-521-0637

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Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers

2017-05-31 Thread Mitch Koep


+1000 We have this one too ...


On 5/31/2017 11:22 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
I have a Fluke DTX1800 that I like but it is a bit pricey. It 
certifies to gigE and that may be more than you want. If you have a 
customer that wnats a printed certification of building wiring it can 
be handy.


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:02 AM Chuck McCown > wrote:


Looking for a 10/100/1000 tester that will do NEXT, FEXT,
capacitance, CRC BER etc etc.
Used to use an EXFO for this but that tester is gone and my Ideal
tester is lacking a few parameters.
Looking over the EXFO website, there are way too many units and
most of them have a fiber focus.
Anybody have a favorite they would recommend?

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Mitch Koep


Please send pricing to

mi...@abwisp.com

Mitch


On 5/31/2017 12:30 PM, Stephen Patrick wrote:
Up to 880Mbps full duplex using 1024QAM, single polarisation, and 
112MHz spectrum.

Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects

2017-06-02 Thread Mitch Koep


 I learned the hard way years ago

Find ONE and use ONE

too many cooks crash the network



On 6/1/2017 8:41 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

Dennis and I did initial design and setup.

It's documented and represented somewhat in The Dude.

But needs some cleanup of course.

Was just hoping IPArchitechs would be quick to identify and remedy what should 
be simple issues like this.

I've got them responding now, so I'll see how it goes next week on fixes and 
implementation.

I like Dennis, was trying another company for comparison.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 7:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects

Who did the original setup ?  Were multiple people involved over time with the 
current setup ?

Sounds like your currently have a  layered configuration without the 
possibility of best practices applied to each layer, thus resulting in this 
issue.

Is the network well documented  ? If not then it can be a quiet a ball of wax 
to deal with.

If you have inhouse folks and just need help with identifying the cause of the 
issue, I may be able to help.
If you are looking for a turnkey solution / fix clean up then it will be best 
suited for one the consultants .

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -

From: "Sterling Jacobson" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:45:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects
It is a routing problem, probably a BGP change outside of us.

But I have internal BGP and several /24 subnets that I don't want to
route around the internet and back to myself, just to hop directly
between my two Mikrotik BGP instances.

That seems to be the major hangup right now.

I have a single static entry to route a specific block from one
Mikrotik to the other, but need a more general policy BGP related that
gets automatically filtered down to my OSPF network and MPLS to keep
all of my own inter-subnet communications internal instead of trying
to roam all over creation and back to myself.



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects

on-list of off-list

Care to share what is the problem you are trying or needing to solve ?

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -

From: "Sterling Jacobson" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:53:32 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] IP Architects
So far, not so good with them.

I've spent about $340 for an hour and a half time to have them modify
one temporary route rule in fifteen seconds.
Rest of the time appeared to be them attempting to figure things out
on BGP/eBGP and OSPF.

That didn't fix my problem, just a patch to get some traffic
re-routed, but left me with a bunch of other problems.

When I asked them about the charge, they wouldn't work with me.

I expect a lot more out of a team that charges top dollar for being
the top experts.

I'm having problems communicating and scheduling time now to get that
permanently fixed.
It appears they want to create an entire lab with separate equipment,
spending hours of my money, to understand the problem.

So, yeah, not what I was expecting out of them at all.

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 5 replaces a Rocket M5 link

2017-06-08 Thread Mitch Koep


LOL rig it and have the ground guy pull it up to you on a rope


On 6/8/2017 9:18 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
The guyed wires keep it solid.  It is tough climb because of size...I 
prefer 45s but I had nothing to do with erection of this tower.  This 
was hard part... taking dish up and bringing other one down.


On Jun 8, 2017 8:09 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" > wrote:


That would scare the hell out of me. I am leaning more and more
against 25G towers and more torwards 45/55g because of 2 foot
dishes and Airfibers being so heavy...

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

100 ft on top of two story building...guyed and with
stabilizer...solid.  built about 5 years ago.

On Jun 8, 2017 6:38 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

how tall is that 25g tower?

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

My morning gig...in Fabens for UMC...92Mbps down and
89Mbps up...my doctor ordered this to rehydrate

Re: [AFMUG] Contact for CTI.

2017-06-13 Thread Mitch Koep


Check with Scan source

You also get free shipping with them and they have beat most other pricing

Mitch


On 6/13/2017 10:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Anyone have an email address for someone at CTI that can actually get 
something done.  Iï¿½m beyond frustrated with the run around I am 
getting on a simple Cambium RMA itï¿½s been weeks and every time I email 
to follow up with them I am asked to provide the same info I have 
already given them. Apparently I need a boss to get involved.


They were so bad for so long years ago but a few years ago now a new 
sales rep kept calling me and I finally gave him a chance. Everything 
went smoothly and eventually I ended up buying just about everything 
from them. Its been great for the last two years no issues but man the 
last several months its like the old CTI is back.  Iï¿½m about done with 
them.


While I am at if anyone know of any vendors that sell Cambium and can 
ship out of Chicago FedEx? I get FedEx ground out of Chicago the next 
day. Its one of the main reasons along with my sales rep I have been 
using Convergence.


Thanks,

Brandon

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Unlimited Plans

2017-06-17 Thread Mitch Koep


A Good friend works as a Verizon Engineer

He related that Verizon allows the first 20 G then throttles to 3G speed 
then after 32G


it throttles to 1 Meg for the balance of the month

Mitch


On 6/17/2017 12:07 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Well, most of the 'unlimited plans' allow 25GB and then they throttle 
to a level that would not likely support streaming, except at the 
lowest resolution.  Most of our streaming customers average 250 GB per 
month.  Hard to imagine that this will work as a replacement to a 
fixed home connection.


On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Matt > wrote:


Anyone trying them as a sole home connection?  How does that work out?
 Streaming etc?

Re: [AFMUG] FirstNet

2017-06-20 Thread Mitch Koep


LOL

Is there a "FirstNet" built anywhere yet?

Mitch


On 6/20/2017 3:03 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I doubt anyone cares, but FirstNet is getting closer:
LEX F10 FIRSTNET-READY MISSION CRITICAL LTE DEVICE
The new LEX F10 is an AT&T-certified LTE device that operates on the 
FirstNet network.

Re: [AFMUG] Laptop for Installers

2017-06-28 Thread Mitch Koep


We use ASUS or Sony

Mitch


On 6/28/2017 12:25 PM, Matt wrote:

Looking for a good laptop for installers.  Prefer refurbished.  Any suggestions?

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