Re: [AFMUG] Happy New Year to all
Is that your son? -Ty On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Be safe Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Happy New Year to all
Awesome. Great pic. -Ty On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yes. Air Force Combat Veteran and Sgt military police. . Jaime Solorza On Dec 31, 2014 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is that your son? -Ty On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Be safe Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down....
After seeing suspicious traffic I have dropped UDP port 1900 globally with no ill-effects. I have dropepd over 300 GB of that traffic this month. -Ty On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I read somewhere, I think maybe Ars, that the DDoS attack has been going on for several days and is using primarily NTP and SSDP (UPnP discovery protocol) amplification. And that SSDP has succeeded NTP and DNS as the amplification method for big ( 1Gbps) DDoS attacks. Apparently because the industry jumped on securing open NTP servers. And even though SSDP provides less amplification than NTP, there are more targets and they are mostly home routers which consumers are not going to patch even if there is patched firmware available. Plus UDP makes it easier to spoof the source IP. So I must have missed that UDP port 1900 is the new target for amplification. I did a quick torch and saw a bunch of traffic on udp/1900, some inbound only which I assume are scans, some bidirectional which I’m thinking is suspicious but maybe some port 1900 traffic is normal because it is in the 1024 ephemeral port range. I went and signed up for ShadowServer, figuring they will tell me what IPs were responding to SSDP requests on what date and I can track down the customer. Anyone have a better approach? If you identify customers with UPnP open to the outside, are you contacting them and pushing them to fix it? It’s just amazing to me that some routers would have UPnP open on the WAN side. What’s wrong with these companies? I saw DLink mentioned, and sure enough, when I torched for udp/1900, I saw a lot of connections for a customer that I seem to remember has a DLink DIR-655. *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down linksys modems for backhauls Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: No! No! They have Comcast Cable and Century Link DSL. Normal stuff. *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* http://www.surfici.net [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 4:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down The FBI setup a P2P server in North Korea with the Sony movie as the only download. LOL Travis On 12/22/2014 2:08 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: What did we do? Lol. How did we do it ? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down....
Both. I'm rate-limiting SNMP and DNS for dDOS reasons as well. -Ty On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I guess it could be treated like 137/138/139/445 which do not belong on the public Internet, I would feel better about blocking if it was a low numbered port. Are you blocking it inbound to your network, or also outbound? *From:* Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:06 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down After seeing suspicious traffic I have dropped UDP port 1900 globally with no ill-effects. I have dropepd over 300 GB of that traffic this month. -Ty On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I read somewhere, I think maybe Ars, that the DDoS attack has been going on for several days and is using primarily NTP and SSDP (UPnP discovery protocol) amplification. And that SSDP has succeeded NTP and DNS as the amplification method for big ( 1Gbps) DDoS attacks. Apparently because the industry jumped on securing open NTP servers. And even though SSDP provides less amplification than NTP, there are more targets and they are mostly home routers which consumers are not going to patch even if there is patched firmware available. Plus UDP makes it easier to spoof the source IP. So I must have missed that UDP port 1900 is the new target for amplification. I did a quick torch and saw a bunch of traffic on udp/1900, some inbound only which I assume are scans, some bidirectional which I’m thinking is suspicious but maybe some port 1900 traffic is normal because it is in the 1024 ephemeral port range. I went and signed up for ShadowServer, figuring they will tell me what IPs were responding to SSDP requests on what date and I can track down the customer. Anyone have a better approach? If you identify customers with UPnP open to the outside, are you contacting them and pushing them to fix it? It’s just amazing to me that some routers would have UPnP open on the WAN side. What’s wrong with these companies? I saw DLink mentioned, and sure enough, when I torched for udp/1900, I saw a lot of connections for a customer that I seem to remember has a DLink DIR-655. *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down linksys modems for backhauls Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: No! No! They have Comcast Cable and Century Link DSL. Normal stuff. *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* http://www.surfici.net [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 4:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down The FBI setup a P2P server in North Korea with the Sony movie as the only download. LOL Travis On 12/22/2014 2:08 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: What did we do? Lol. How did we do it ? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down....
Yes Steve. It is easy. -Ty On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So when we get our mikrotiks on the edge of our network we will be able to easily do this magic blocking too? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: UDP 1900 is ephemeral port, and a low number. Many network stacks pick ports sequentially above 1025 which means some portion of legitimate traffic is going to be dropped if you block just based on UDP 1900. It will cause intermittent and unpredictable failures for applications and it will likely be very difficult to troubleshoot since the issue will be short lived in most cases. You probably want to consider a more specific filter looking deeper in the packet. Mark On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: After seeing suspicious traffic I have dropped UDP port 1900 globally with no ill-effects. I have dropepd over 300 GB of that traffic this month. -Ty On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I read somewhere, I think maybe Ars, that the DDoS attack has been going on for several days and is using primarily NTP and SSDP (UPnP discovery protocol) amplification. And that SSDP has succeeded NTP and DNS as the amplification method for big ( 1Gbps) DDoS attacks. Apparently because the industry jumped on securing open NTP servers. And even though SSDP provides less amplification than NTP, there are more targets and they are mostly home routers which consumers are not going to patch even if there is patched firmware available. Plus UDP makes it easier to spoof the source IP. So I must have missed that UDP port 1900 is the new target for amplification. I did a quick torch and saw a bunch of traffic on udp/1900, some inbound only which I assume are scans, some bidirectional which I’m thinking is suspicious but maybe some port 1900 traffic is normal because it is in the 1024 ephemeral port range. I went and signed up for ShadowServer, figuring they will tell me what IPs were responding to SSDP requests on what date and I can track down the customer. Anyone have a better approach? If you identify customers with UPnP open to the outside, are you contacting them and pushing them to fix it? It’s just amazing to me that some routers would have UPnP open on the WAN side. What’s wrong with these companies? I saw DLink mentioned, and sure enough, when I torched for udp/1900, I saw a lot of connections for a customer that I seem to remember has a DLink DIR-655. *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down linksys modems for backhauls Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: No! No! They have Comcast Cable and Century Link DSL. Normal stuff. *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* http://www.surfici.net/ image001.png *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 4:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down The FBI setup a P2P server in North Korea with the Sony movie as the only download. LOL Travis On 12/22/2014 2:08 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: What did we do? Lol. How did we do it ? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)
We have a few of them left as well. They just won't go away. We have offered free installs even and they won't budge. I can't even imagine using dialup for just email now-a-days. *Shivers* -Ty On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We had a Virgil and Johana [last name redacted] come in for dial up service years and years ago. Same situation, they had no idea what they wanted for an email address. They decided to combine their first names and came up with Virghana...Our sales guy almost lost it after he wrote it down on the paper and read it out loud. Oh the good ol dial up days. We actually still have like 4 dial up customers... On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Good Chinese name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_people *From:* Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) One day, way back in the dialup days, when people would sign up for an account, they’d have no idea what to use for an email address. So we suggested ‘first name, initial of last name.’ One day, an older gent comes in, signs up. My coworker brings me the form, I start to set it all up. Then I notice the email address. ‘Doug,’ I say, to my older, straight-laced, religious-type co-worker, ‘are you sure about this email address?’ ‘Yes,’ he says. ‘Really?’ says I. ‘Yes, ‘ he says. ‘Don G. That’s his name.’ ‘Look at the form, Doug,’ I urge. ‘Look at it.’ He looks. ‘Don G at ourdomain.com. Looks fine to me,’ he says. ‘Keep looking,’ I say, and I wait. Tick. Tick. Tick. “OH NO! “ and out he races to attempt to catch the man who just signed up for an email address of ‘d...@ourdomain.com’. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Seriously, that would have been very cool. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:48 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) That's funny. My wife wanted to name our son Arrow until I made her say that one out loud. Arrow SmithI don't think so. On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My last name is House. When my son was on the way my wife and I were discussing names for him. She suggested Porter. She was serious until I made her say his whole name out loud. Craig -- *From: *Ben Wirch via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub. On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though. I worked with a Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke. I went to school with a Jerry Ferry. Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of software from Cambium’s website. *From:* Craig House via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover -- *From: *Jon Bruce via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain. On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from. Like I.P. Freely. Seymour Butts juvenile stuff. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took me a moment... *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:36 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) My favorite is Chuck U. Farley Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined. Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st century.
Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)
We have a Rusty Johnson. I smirk every time. -Ty On Dec 13, 2014 7:21 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You forgot kico for Francisco. My pops name his girlfriend called him... Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 5:59 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So why Jose/Pepe and Francisco/Paco/Pancho? Hah, that made me remember watching The Cisco Kid on TV long ago. Probably considered offensive today, like Speedy Gonzalez? I liked it when I was a kid. Trivia question: what were the names of Cisco and Pancho’s horses? *From:* Tyler Treat via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Because John is his dad's name? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 13, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Lupe is nickname for Guadalupe. The one I could never figure is how Jack is nickname for John. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 4:59 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I’m actually glad you mentioned that, I got a new customer a couple weeks back and he said his name was Guadalupe Vasquez and I wondered if he was giving me his wife’s name or something. I always though Guadalupe was a girl’s name. Or just Lupe. I guess it’s the Spanish version of the boy named Sue? *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 5:50 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) It was amusing his name was D Cline and card declined. Names are a funny thing ...many Mexican families name boys with Guadalupe which is traditionally a girls name. Kids are mean. Kid name was Abundio but they called him Fundio. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 4:37 PM, Hardy, Tim via Af af@afmug.com wrote: An actual OB Gyn here in NOVA - Dr. Harry C. Beaver http://www.wellness.com/dir/2471590/obgyn/va/fairfax/harry-beaver-md%23referrer Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: And I heard somewhere that the owner of the lear jet company who's last name was Lear named his daughter Chanda Craig -- *From: *Craig House via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 5:20:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) My last name is House. When my son was on the way my wife and I were discussing names for him. She suggested Porter. She was serious until I made her say his whole name out loud. Craig -- *From: *Ben Wirch via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub. On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though. I worked with a Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke. I went to school with a Jerry Ferry. Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of software from Cambium’s website. *From:* Craig House via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover -- *From: *Jon Bruce via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain. On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from. Like I.P. Freely. Seymour Butts juvenile stuff. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took me a moment... *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:36 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) My favorite is Chuck U. Farley Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined. Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st century.
Re: [AFMUG] FS: netonix WISP switch 400B
LOL. I wish I could buy it from you right now. I love the one I have and intend to get many more. -Ty On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:27 AM, josh--- via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Congrats, first wispswitch to trade hands after sale. You're the proud owner of that record, way to read the data sheet =) J/K! On December 12, 2014 6:03:55 AM AKST, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a brand new netonix wisp switch 400b for sale, only reason I am selling is I thought it was a 48v on all ports instead of just half of them. Price is $425 including shipping. email k...@wavleinc.com Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] FS: netonix WISP switch 400B
+1000. Great device, great company. I can't wait for the Tower Switch! -Ty On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: oh i love the wisp switch, i think its been the best thing that has come along in years, i plan on putting them on everything Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 12, 2014, at 11:27 AM, josh--- via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Congrats, first wispswitch to trade hands after sale. You're the proud owner of that record, way to read the data sheet =) J/K! On December 12, 2014 6:03:55 AM AKST, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a brand new netonix wisp switch 400b for sale, only reason I am selling is I thought it was a 48v on all ports instead of just half of them. Price is $425 including shipping. email k...@wavleinc.com Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik brute force
Note to self, double check all API services are OFF. -Ty On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have seen an increase in API attacks lately. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:51:18 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik brute force Nice. WTF. http://mkbrutusproject.github.io/MKBRUTUS/
Re: [AFMUG] Portable power rig
Yeah, what Steve said. LOL. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:11 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: we have IP aliases on the WAN side for all the different radio systems with the interface still set to DHCP, this way we only need one ESSID and DHCP Pool on the inside. the techs can plug the radio into it to manage the radio until its provisioned, then still access it via the pop router after its been provisioned On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Vlad Sedov via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is the product of boredom, some dremel bits, and a large collection of old power tools.. The switch controls DC polarity, so UBNT and Cambium radios can be powered from the same jack. The router is set up with several SSIDs, and each one has its own DHCP pool. That way, you can attach to the proper SSID with your mobile device, and it will put you on the same subnet as the radio. Yet another SSID is used basically as a home wifi router, so if the radio is moved to the WAN port, the rig can be used to get online. This is a very crude prototype, but it works great, and battery lasts a very long time. Going to migrate it all into a belt pouch. Being able to charge battery packs on their original charging dock is also pretty handy. peace Vlad --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Portable power rig
Nice. I like the multiple SSID idea. You could have the Mikrotik have addresses in all of the networks you might want to talk to (192.168.1.x/24, 169.254.1.x/24, etc) and when you get DHCP it gives you an address from a different pool and the Mikrotik, as your gateway, can get you to all of the networks at once. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Vlad Sedov via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is the product of boredom, some dremel bits, and a large collection of old power tools.. The switch controls DC polarity, so UBNT and Cambium radios can be powered from the same jack. The router is set up with several SSIDs, and each one has its own DHCP pool. That way, you can attach to the proper SSID with your mobile device, and it will put you on the same subnet as the radio. Yet another SSID is used basically as a home wifi router, so if the radio is moved to the WAN port, the rig can be used to get online. This is a very crude prototype, but it works great, and battery lasts a very long time. Going to migrate it all into a belt pouch. Being able to charge battery packs on their original charging dock is also pretty handy. peace Vlad --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Portable power rig
Sure. No different than your SSID method really. Just a trick to reach those subnets. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Vlad Sedov via Af af@afmug.com wrote: we use PPPoE, but that might still work.. Vlad On 12/10/2014 9:11 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: we have IP aliases on the WAN side for all the different radio systems with the interface still set to DHCP, this way we only need one ESSID and DHCP Pool on the inside. the techs can plug the radio into it to manage the radio until its provisioned, then still access it via the pop router after its been provisioned On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Vlad Sedov via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is the product of boredom, some dremel bits, and a large collection of old power tools.. The switch controls DC polarity, so UBNT and Cambium radios can be powered from the same jack. The router is set up with several SSIDs, and each one has its own DHCP pool. That way, you can attach to the proper SSID with your mobile device, and it will put you on the same subnet as the radio. Yet another SSID is used basically as a home wifi router, so if the radio is moved to the WAN port, the rig can be used to get online. This is a very crude prototype, but it works great, and battery lasts a very long time. Going to migrate it all into a belt pouch. Being able to charge battery packs on their original charging dock is also pretty handy. peace Vlad --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik brute force
Why even turn the service on is my thought. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Butch Evans has a nice inexpensive script for Mikrotik that takes care of this nicely. Why even let it through the input chain is my thought. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ty Featherling via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:30 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik brute force Note to self, double check all API services are OFF. -Ty On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have seen an increase in API attacks lately. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:51:18 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik brute force Nice. WTF. http://mkbrutusproject.github.io/MKBRUTUS/
Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
Me neither. My Plex server doesn't have any high quality material to stream
to my Rokus and Chromecasts. It's a wasteland out there.
-Ty
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
All I know is whatever these companies are doing is definitely working. I
can't find a single movie to pirate online. Definitely can't find mp4
videos of Bluray rips that are a roughly 2 GBs and work with my
Chromecast/Xbox/TV.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Some variation of FRAPS if I remember correctly..
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Chris Wright via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the
encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the
playback computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless http://www.velociter.net/
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke via
Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming 4K now.
I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy
protection was a little lacking. Ultimately it's still an analog medium
(you viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level.
Interpret the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, Pixel 1342x975
displaying color E0 at timestamp 58:44:13.221 Maybe I'm naive, but it
doesn't seem like it should be that hard.
On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM,
they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
Because then people could save the movies in RAM, and someone would
figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet
for free.
It's a licensing issue... that's why streaming is OK.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour. Why not stick in
a 32GB memory and be done? That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming
services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing
deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they
would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.
Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage
space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full
retail... so places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less
than $2. Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a
TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could handle 60 seconds of video.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
That’s pretty cool.
You can do 4k direct from Youtube.
Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.
But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a
while, then burst back to 90Mbps.
I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on
the built in TV’s.
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming 4K now.
Lovely
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming
4K now.
http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/
--
Ryan Ghering
Network Operations - Plains.Net
Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
That is the kicker for sure. The biggest drop-off in music piracy wasn't
lawsuits or raids, it was iTunes and similar services making it easy to
find and buy music online. The same hasn't happened for movies/tv yet.
Netflix is great but the selection isn't ubiquitous. It has still made
streaming video easy and affordable. A la carte is the big change to come I
think. HBO Go for instance no longer going to require a cable subscription.
You can pay for it separately and enjoy your HBO content on the internet.
No cable company necessary. Of course as ISPs we have a different battle on
our hands.
-Ty
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
It's a shame those services are 1000% easier to use than products you pay
for. Oh well...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
Me neither. My Plex server doesn't have any high quality material to
stream to my Rokus and Chromecasts. It's a wasteland out there.
-Ty
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
All I know is whatever these companies are doing is definitely working.
I can't find a single movie to pirate online. Definitely can't find mp4
videos of Bluray rips that are a roughly 2 GBs and work with my
Chromecast/Xbox/TV.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Some variation of FRAPS if I remember correctly..
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Chris Wright via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the
encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the
playback computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless http://www.velociter.net/
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming 4K now.
I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy
protection was a little lacking. Ultimately it's still an analog medium
(you viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level.
Interpret the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, Pixel 1342x975
displaying color E0 at timestamp 58:44:13.221 Maybe I'm naive, but
it
doesn't seem like it should be that hard.
On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from
RAM, they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
Because then people could save the movies in RAM, and someone would
figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet
for free.
It's a licensing issue... that's why streaming is OK.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour. Why not stick
in a 32GB memory and be done? That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming
services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing
deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality),
they
would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.
Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage
space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full
retail... so places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for
less
than $2. Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a
TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could handle 60 seconds of video.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
That’s pretty cool.
You can do 4k direct from Youtube.
Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.
But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a
while, then burst back to 90Mbps.
I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on
the built in TV’s.
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming 4K now.
Lovely
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
[AFMUG] simulating interference
What is the easiest way to simulate noise in a lab environment. I would like to play with a couple Rocket AC Lites I have here and see what throughput looks like with some noise adjacent to their channel. Can I just turn up another AP on the necessary channel or does it need a client associated? If so, does their need to be traffic passing to the client? Does an AP get noisier when talking to more clients or with more throughput? -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] simulating interference
Thanks. That was my gut feeling but I was hoping it would be easier. Do you really think the bridge loop might work? Are the two radios really going to send/respond to that many broadcasts? -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: AP simply on without stations is nearly no noise AP with an SM associated is a bit more noise, but it's just beacons and whatever broadcast traffic AP with an SM passing traffic (speed test, real customer traffic, etc) will be the best way to introduce noise. If you want to go full throttle plug the AP into the SM (so it creates a bridge loop) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What is the easiest way to simulate noise in a lab environment. I would like to play with a couple Rocket AC Lites I have here and see what throughput looks like with some noise adjacent to their channel. Can I just turn up another AP on the necessary channel or does it need a client associated? If so, does their need to be traffic passing to the client? Does an AP get noisier when talking to more clients or with more throughput? -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] simulating interference
I'm going to try that. Thanks. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: If you have a 100 meg ethernet port and your wireless link can hold say 50 megs, you're going to have 50 megs of traffic going across it. I'm not sure if the Ubnt radios would be accessible in this situation but the RF end of things would be totally hammered full. Just take a 5 port switch, plug the AP/SM into it and plug your laptop into a port. If you can manage to log into the radios, watch the throughput graphs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thanks. That was my gut feeling but I was hoping it would be easier. Do you really think the bridge loop might work? Are the two radios really going to send/respond to that many broadcasts? -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: AP simply on without stations is nearly no noise AP with an SM associated is a bit more noise, but it's just beacons and whatever broadcast traffic AP with an SM passing traffic (speed test, real customer traffic, etc) will be the best way to introduce noise. If you want to go full throttle plug the AP into the SM (so it creates a bridge loop) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What is the easiest way to simulate noise in a lab environment. I would like to play with a couple Rocket AC Lites I have here and see what throughput looks like with some noise adjacent to their channel. Can I just turn up another AP on the necessary channel or does it need a client associated? If so, does their need to be traffic passing to the client? Does an AP get noisier when talking to more clients or with more throughput? -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] simulating interference
Maybe. Or I might discover a sustainable fuel source. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:50 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: dont do it, it will shut off the sun On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm going to try that. Thanks. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: If you have a 100 meg ethernet port and your wireless link can hold say 50 megs, you're going to have 50 megs of traffic going across it. I'm not sure if the Ubnt radios would be accessible in this situation but the RF end of things would be totally hammered full. Just take a 5 port switch, plug the AP/SM into it and plug your laptop into a port. If you can manage to log into the radios, watch the throughput graphs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thanks. That was my gut feeling but I was hoping it would be easier. Do you really think the bridge loop might work? Are the two radios really going to send/respond to that many broadcasts? -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: AP simply on without stations is nearly no noise AP with an SM associated is a bit more noise, but it's just beacons and whatever broadcast traffic AP with an SM passing traffic (speed test, real customer traffic, etc) will be the best way to introduce noise. If you want to go full throttle plug the AP into the SM (so it creates a bridge loop) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What is the easiest way to simulate noise in a lab environment. I would like to play with a couple Rocket AC Lites I have here and see what throughput looks like with some noise adjacent to their channel. Can I just turn up another AP on the necessary channel or does it need a client associated? If so, does their need to be traffic passing to the client? Does an AP get noisier when talking to more clients or with more throughput? -Ty -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm List weirdness/requests
Oh me too! That is a minor thing but a real annoyance. I feel like Dory from Finding Nemo sometimes; Send a message.. Oh look, a new message! -Ty On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:29 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: youre the man on that #1 thing, its been driving me batty On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ye! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: aaah THANK YOU JOSH! i owe you a beer at AF ;-) On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: In regards to 1 go here and disable sending yourself your own messages http://afmug.com/mailman/options/af Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I haven't noticed #1. PDMNet was going to fix #2 back in September, but things came up. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 8, 2014 4:12:18 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Animal Farm List weirdness/requests Hello, Whomever is now the list manager I have two requests (gripes) 1. for some reason when i send a message it shows up in the conversation thread twice (i'm using Gmail) I'm not sure if everyone else sees it twice or just me. i only get one message from other users (which is the expected behavior). 2. It only shows the name of the person who sent the message and strips out their email. Is there any way we can add this back in. It's really frustrating when a cambium or UBNT employee will post a reply and i don't immediately recognize that this is a response from the manufacturer. even if it stripped the email but put back in user at domain dot com instead of u...@domain.com if the reason from it's removal was to prevent spam etc. 2a. For the manufacturers, would y'all mind adding a signature file until this is fixed so we know it's an official response??? thanks for listening, Sean -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] This is a Japanese commercial
That was great. Reminds me of the Mythbusters painting the Mona Lisa with paintballs in under a second. -Ty On Dec 7, 2014 4:16 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hai Hai!! Jaime Solorza On Dec 7, 2014 12:35 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This was sent to me by Esme Vos to promote the speeds of LTE. “Riffing on the popular Japanese TV segment 3 Minute Cooking, the cell phone carrier DOCOMO has created an ad called 3 Second Cooking to promote the fast speeds of their Full LTE service. The “fried shrimp version” of the ad starts off just like the original cooking show with the list of ingredients: shrimp, flour, bread crumbs, eggs, but then takes a unexpected, technical twist: 2 LTE lanes, 1 total control computer, 6 air pressure adjustment devices, heat-proof goggles and any sort of shock-absorbent material” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkaIoH6Um60 Rory
Re: [AFMUG] OPEN SLOT TODAY on ISPRADIO
Oh wow. That commercial is depressing. -Ty On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: (the periwinkle reference) http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7rk6/justfab-com-buy-1-get-1-free- they-arent-just-shoes -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OPEN SLOT TODAY on ISPRADIO You need periwinkle... -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 8:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OPEN SLOT TODAY on ISPRADIO On 12/3/14, 7:39 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Have someone from Ubiquiti on to explain why in God's name they thought a cloud platform is what people wanted. CLOUD: because you will want it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OPEN SLOT TODAY on ISPRADIO
You're right I'm sure. After Black Friday this year I am a little put off by blind consumerism. The plain idea of I need more things is off-putting to me. It'll pass. -Ty On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Why? Let the girls be girls and have all the shoes they want… as long as you can have how many x you what In my case, I have a wall of lego star wars.. 5 drones, 5 cars … so you get the point Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OPEN SLOT TODAY on ISPRADIO Oh wow. That commercial is depressing. -Ty On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: (the periwinkle reference) http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7rk6/justfab-com-buy-1-get-1-free- they-arent-just-shoes -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OPEN SLOT TODAY on ISPRADIO You need periwinkle... -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 8:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OPEN SLOT TODAY on ISPRADIO On 12/3/14, 7:39 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Have someone from Ubiquiti on to explain why in God's name they thought a cloud platform is what people wanted. CLOUD: because you will want it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] groundcontrol project
This is exciting. Fittingly it has a very Animal Farm vibe. Rise up! Take the power back! I am glad to help any way I can. I can't say though that I have any skills that would get you anywhere. I look forward to seeing this take shape. -Ty On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM, James Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You’re not Major Tom are you? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] groundcontrol project Cool, I thought I felt a disturbance in the force... *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:20 PM *To:* WISPA General List wirel...@wispa.org ; Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc. it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com -- *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014a11a39556-785dab88-e25c-4c00-9b67-2b95697c65c0-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2885598898domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2885598898domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com http://amazonses.com is on your allow list.*
Re: [AFMUG] groundcontrol project
I agree. -Ty On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, I think perhaps there should be a spot on the schedule for this project? *From:* Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] groundcontrol project This is exciting. Fittingly it has a very Animal Farm vibe. Rise up! Take the power back! I am glad to help any way I can. I can't say though that I have any skills that would get you anywhere. I look forward to seeing this take shape. -Ty On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM, James Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You’re not Major Tom are you? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] groundcontrol project Cool, I thought I felt a disturbance in the force... *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:20 PM *To:* WISPA General List wirel...@wispa.org ; Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] groundcontrol project For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project yesterday. https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2. We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen. The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral. If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, etc. it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP community. Thank you! -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com -- *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014a11a39556-785dab88-e25c-4c00-9b67-2b95697c65c0-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2885598898domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2885598898domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com http://amazonses.com is on your allow list.*
Re: [AFMUG] Thanksgiving Funny
LMAO. -Ty On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could think of to 'clean up' the bird's vocabulary. Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even more rude. John, in desperation, threw up his hand, grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard for over a minute. Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched arms and said I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior. John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, the bird spoke-up, very softly, May I ask what the turkey did? Rory
Re: [AFMUG] LOUD 5 Ghz
Gotta join the group to see the post. -Ty On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://on.fb.me/11Pp5lV - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL
Re: [AFMUG] Where I am - I being Chuck McCown
Jay, that had my actually laughing at my desk. Well done. -Ty On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:19 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WHY ARE YOU MOCKING ME?!?!?!?!?!?!?! - Original Message - *From:* Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 6:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Where I am - I being Chuck McCown Has the MPAA Officer come and found you in the theater yet? On 11/19/2014 6:14 PM, Traci via Af wrote: Please post this to the list. I am so special...
Re: [AFMUG] epmp 1000 only PPPOE Filter
Is there any downside to dropping all multicast from the customers? My brain says no but my other end says don't try it without confirming. -Ty On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:36 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We do only bridge mode and DHCP to the customer's equipment. But I do check the PPPoE filter because it lets me easily see when a customer's router is configured for PPPoE (Stats Filter). I also use the filters for BootP server, SNMP, SMB and multicast. This is some of the best stuff about Canopy. So I would prefer the ePMP to work like Canopy, for the most part anyway. On 11/18/2014 3:13 PM, Matt via Af wrote: I am Dan Sullivan and I am the software manager for ePMP at Cambium. Why do you want to filter PPPoE? Can you explain the use case more for me. When our SM is set up as a PPPoE client and is talking to a PPPoE server, it will only accept traffic from the PPPoE server over the wireless interface. With this in mind, why do you need a PPPoE filter for the wireless interface? One other item, when NAT mode is enabled we can set up a L2 filter for a source MAC and EtherType as indicated below, but only the source MAC filter will work. There is a warning message that indicates this when in NAT mode. I think the desired affect is the same as: On Canopy 450 SM Config / Protocol Filtering Packet Filter Configuration Packet Direction: Filter Direction Upstream Checked Packet Filter Types: Check Everything BUT PPPoE This way the customer router/PC they plug into the ethernet port on the SM can only successfully send PPPoE traffic onto our network.
Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard)
I know on Mikrotik if you copy a config from one device to another and you do not sanitize any MAC addresses in it you can rewrite the MACs on the new device. Any chance you did something like that? If so a reset to default config should restore the original MACs. -Ty On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I recommend you use different MACs on Ethernet devices that are connected to other Ethernet devices. Especially if they are all on the same collision domain. Improper operation may result in having both devices use the same MAC. Of course this will continue to be a problem until MAC-V6 is widely implemented, but try to find different MACs. I know they are hard to come by, but it is sure to make you life easier... (I used to have a block of MACs assigned to my company. Not sure if I had to pay Xerox for them or what. Been a long time ago.) *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] For love of all that is evil (mikrotik/routerboard) I always wondered how manufactures reuse their MACs, apparently all in the same batch On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Freaking hell, I just spent 30 minutes trying to unravel a router mystery. Ended up that both of my CCR Mikrotik routers had THE SAME MAC ADDRESSES between them! They are identical. Every port had a consecutive MAC number, but they were the same numbers for both the SFP and GigE ports across the two routers. I'm guessing they flashed them both at the manufacturer the exact same, then didn't make it through a MAC renumbering. Or is this common with Mikrotik now days? I'm sure I've encountered it before, but like once every five years. Just a FYI for all y'all who use Mikrotiks. Watch your backs (I mean MACs)! -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] dc-dc step up / power supply
True but he emphasized cheap. -Ty On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:50 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I would not use the SD. Get an RSD instead. On 11/7/2014 3:46 PM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote: 24V - 48V DC/DC converter 200W SD-200B-48 Meanwell https://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_1953911_-1 This is from my parts list. More than you are asking for and about $80 but I bet you can look at others in that series to find a better fit. -Ty On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need some part numbers for cheap 24VDC - 48VDC ~72W din mount step-up/power supplies. Throw some part numbers out there :) -- Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] development platform for data/control system
Good point Chuck. Just use SNMP for the data. Keefe, I'm sorry but I have zero faith that mFi will be around for all that long. How long since launch and it hasn't been updated or spoken of again? You can only just now get parts without months of waiting. Cameron, I will look into that thanks. Anyone else have any thoughts on microcontollers? -Ty On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could do much of this with a site monitor. *From:* Cameron Crum via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:26 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] development platform for data/control system Sorry, forgot the link http://www.embeddedcontrolconcepts.com/products.html On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Cameron Crum via Af af@afmug.com wrote: How many IO connections? I use a BCS-460 for my little brewery. It was designed with brewers in mind, but could be used for any application needing web based control for relays and such. There are a couple models with different numbers of inputs and outputs, has a built in web server for controlling it all, and they have an API so you could write your own. I wrote an andoid app called Brew Mate on the android market so I can use my phone with it. It might be worth looking at before re-inventing the wheel. Cameron On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have been asked what the feasibility is of us developing a controller that can control some servos and relays to control a few things in a comm building. Basically be able to turn the lights on and off, monitor the temperature, turn on a heater, and control a magnetic door lock. The products are all lined out for controlling each of those but we need a controller that can deal with the IO and be able to be run from a webpage. My first though was Arduino or Beagleboard. Anyone have any experience with these things that could recommend a platform to build off of? The basic requirements are ethernet interface, a number of digital and analog IO connections and the ability to communicate with a web-server backend. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] Cacti POLL
Same here. I don't understand what you are proposing David. My graphs are manually sorted in the graph tree. What does your plugin do? -Ty On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Sort of like a manage plugin that works? We've arranged our graphs to be grouped by POP/AP/Subscriber, but it's done more-or-less manually. When a new subscriber is added, we add them to the appropriate graph tree. This way, someone not in the know can see the organization of the infrastructure. Not clear if this is significantly different by your description. bp On 11/5/2014 5:06 AM, David Milholen via Af wrote: For those of you using cacti.. Out of necessity I am going to be working a plugin that will do Host groups or views for the hosts displayed. For example instead of all hosts in one view you can group them by infrastructure or subscribers and set permissions on who is allowed to view infrastructure and subs or just subs. There are some other plugins that let you add them to a tab and view but I want a drop down like on the host page to display only what I need. Of course you can place a tag in the name of each host and search by this tag. I am just being lazy I guess I want a simple drop down that will give me the groups I want. Since we use nagios to watch majority of infrastructure for alerting I want cacti to only show that infrastructure. I am just taking poll to see how many use or could use something like this. --
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT: fails to respond to SNMP?
Newer hardware type is XW including xxBeams and AC products as well as new generation of Titanium Rockets. All of the other M gear is XM. XW gear should not accept XM firmware and vice versa. Not sure what happened with yours. Glad you got it fixed though. -Ty On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It was fixed by installing 5.6.beta5. Sometimes ya gotta wonder. Oh.� What's the difference between the XW series and the M series? The radio was an M5 (implying the M series), but the software loaded on it was XM.v5.5.6 (implying XW series). I loaded the XW series, and SNMP is now responding.� Not sure if it would (or wouldn't) load the M series, and since it's working (after a fashion), I'm not willing to gamble too much more on a new subscriber. bp On 11/4/2014 10:39 AM, Simon Westlake via Af wrote: I'm pretty sure the Ubiquiti gear uses OpenWRT, but I'm not 100% sure. It is possible to install new packages onto an OpenWRT device using 'opkg' but you would need a binary built for that particular CPU type. Probably more trouble than it is worth to troubleshoot a single device. On 11/4/2014 12:33 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Not that I can find.� The only things I found snmp-ish were the config files and the snmpd.� It's running some flavor of linux.� When I run nmap from outside, it shows port 161 not open, but on the other hand other CPEs of the same model show the same thing (and they're working). uname -a returns this: uname -a Linux hostname 2.6.32.60 #1 Wed Oct 1 16:43:27 EEST 2014 mips unknown bp On 11/4/2014 10:07 AM, Simon Westlake via Af wrote: Does the radio have snmpget available? You could see if it can query itself. On 11/4/2014 11:47 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: I don't really need an SNMP tester. I've run snmpget/snmpwalk from the CLI, and traced the interaction.� The requests are going in, just nothing is coming out. I have a hard time believing that some sort of hardware problem is causing this, as the unit seems to be performing as expected in all other respects. I've also exhausted all the software-related issues that I can think of.� Just very peculiar. bp On 11/4/2014 9:21 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: The makers of PRTG have a freeware tool that I have sometimes found helpful: http://www.paessler.com/tools/snmptester -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:06 AM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT: fails to respond to SNMP? This seems to be the week for weird shit problems.�� We have a new installation at a remote site using a UBNT nanobeam.� When we went to add the new CPE to our cacti system, we got a timeout on the SNMP query. No problem, probably something wrong with the SNMP settings. Nope, they are exactly as needed (configuration comes from a template anyway, so what could have gone wrong?). Well, the nanobeam was from inventory, so it was running a down-rev version of AirOS (5.5.6).� So I upgraded it to 5.5.10. No change. I then ran a trace from the local POP router.� The SNMP requests are most definitely going to the radio, just no response. So I quadruple-checked the SNMP settings.� All OK. No firewall is running on the radio. ssh'd into the radio, and the tinysnmpd is running with the correct parameters. block management access is NOT checked. What in the world am I missing? -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting
Steve you are truly one of my favorite people. Keep on keepin' on. -Ty On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:20 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: ... also, I dont know if any have noticed. I have the spelling and grammar of a two year old of late, thats a side effect of medication Im on for me not to be stabbing people, I apologize if it gets confusing and I forget the spellchecker On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:24 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the bastard If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea tot get this achieved you would understand my very short fuse about dealing with dickheads like me that I have. I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF link, and thats that. Im going to take a moment to say that regardless of what this final project ends up being, if you want one hell of a sales guy to work with, Jerrod from Moonblink(Jarrod Washington [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com ]) is the shit, if you badmouth him, I will come to your house, I will castrate you, I will fry your man parts in olive oil, give them a slight garlic and rosemary seasoning and serve them to you over some white rice with a cane vinegar brandy. I float out told this guy that after he did all the work, my bosses would likely flat out price shop his parts list. He didnt blink and kept on doing his thing. If my daughter was old enough, Id marry her to him. In a perfect world, both sites will be non penetrating mounts. One side is 3' the other 4'. The side that wiull have the 4' hast the option of being mounted on a set of 25g we have running up the wall. The problem is the wall mount is currently only secured every 20' with a 2 deep concrete anchor, Im pretty sure this wont be sufficient for a 4' antenna (currently we only mount 2' parabolics to it) We have the option to plow through the wall with plates, but if we go to that expenses we might as well go to a full non pen for a 4 antenna at the top. Any advice on a non pen mount that can support a 4 parabolic? This side we can do pretty much whatever, but still want the smallest footprint. The other side, for non pen, our partner claims to have an 8' x 8' footprint mount, the best I ever specced was 10x10 so Im suspiscious. Both sites are grain elevators. Im looking for the minimum grounding to achieve a respectable level of protection. If you send me an NEC link, you have no value to me, Im not asking because I already know the NEC spec and just want to brag about my testicles. I just want a rough Idea of what it would take to get to a point where with factory spec installation of a Lumina I can meet the minimum ground/bond at an elevator and grow from there. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Touughswitch 5 reset all connected radios!!
Yes it does disable reset via POE. It does still leave recovery mode enabled but I don't know if that works both via POE and the hardware button or just the hardware button. Anyone? -Ty On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:28 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: yes it does, that has become standard after reprogramming an AP cluster that werent labelled at the bottom end which radio was which in a snowstorm at 8 oclock at night we wont be doing that again. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Had a very strange issue last night where all of the AP’s and a backhaul attached to a TS5 reset to defaults. We are unclear as to what the cause was, we suspect it happened while a backhaul was being moved from one mount to another. It’s possible there is a little corrosion on the pins that shorted POE to Ethernet, but that should not have reset all of the radios through the switch. Replaced the switch and reconfigured the radios but it is certainly disconcerting that this can even happen. Does anyone know if disabling the reset button in the software also disables the ability to reset over the Ethernet? SMH Jerry -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 + Epmp100 dish _ Mtow
Is that mount serious? I mean it may be convenient to mount on the other side but c'mon. Any no place for the radio? Could have at least made a nice spot on there for a radio on one of those plates so that you can put the radio on the non-mount side. Weird. -Ty On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 + Epmp100 dish _ Mtow
Ok okay so that circle with the 4 holes around it at the top maybe? If so that's not so bad. -Ty On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They are setup for an ePMP radio to attach to the plate on the non-mount side, it's just not designed for a 450... looks like it worked fine to do it that way though. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ty Featherling via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 + Epmp100 dish _ Mtow Is that mount serious? I mean it may be convenient to mount on the other side but c'mon. Any no place for the radio? Could have at least made a nice spot on there for a radio on one of those plates so that you can put the radio on the non-mount side. Weird. -Ty On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 + Epmp100 dish _ Mtow
I haven't used the ePMP line at all. I will educate myself. -Ty On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I take it you haven't assembled one of these before... At least watch their demonstration video to know what's going on. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:13:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 + Epmp100 dish _ Mtow Ok okay so that circle with the 4 holes around it at the top maybe? If so that's not so bad. -Ty On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They are setup for an ePMP radio to attach to the plate on the non-mount side, it's just not designed for a 450... looks like it worked fine to do it that way though. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ty Featherling via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 + Epmp100 dish _ Mtow Is that mount serious? I mean it may be convenient to mount on the other side but c'mon. Any no place for the radio? Could have at least made a nice spot on there for a radio on one of those plates so that you can put the radio on the non-mount side. Weird. -Ty On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail
What is the latency of an unladen swallow? -Ty On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What do you mean? African or European? Jaime Solorza On Oct 26, 2014 1:19 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I would agree that, at the moment, OFDM techniques dominate the discussion... On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeahbut, it appears QAM has won? Yes? LTE doesn’t have much in common with CDMA anymore. *From:* Chuck Macenski via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail Actually...CDMA techniques (PN modulation) re-channel a band based on time rather than frequency. In a multi point environment, this allows multiple people to share a frequency bandwidth in a not terribly inefficient way when all of the simultaneous communication paths are considered. On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, isochronous pseudorandom noise mod/demod techniques will pull info from sewer. I think the deep space network uses some of those techniques. But PN modulation does not help throughput. It wastes bandwidth. Speed/interference immunity/narrow channels – pick one. *From:* Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:27 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail The holy grail would be the ability to modulate a signal and receive it correctly in the face of withering interference. The GPS system accomplishes that through the technique of encoding the data within pseudo noise. The only problem being that GPS data is relatively static compared to what we deal with. bp On 10/25/2014 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: I think folks without deep experience in either 1) operating a WISP or 2)without deep experience in electrodynamics and modulation (99.999% of the general population) somehow think that Moore’s Law applies to wireless. The only way to scale this this stuff in a way approximating Moore’s Law is to just keep adding cell/ap sites. I read a book back in 1990 that outlined this problem for the nascent cell phone industry. The book is still spot on. *From:* Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 11:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail Or looky, looky, AC PTMP MU-MIMO. Imagine what that would do for White Space. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail Sterling, thank you! I think you and me must be the only ones who can see the elephant.. OH LOOKY LOOKY AC PTMP!! On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is it just me, or is no one realizing that we are still not that far from 2005 with wireless. Yes, we have 300-1Gbps capable radios. But they trade that for larger channel allocations and even more signal to noise requirements. But the spectrum allocations haven’t changed enough to use these new features to their fullest in a radio dense environment. When doing cost analysis in my area last year for wireless I realized I had to forklift upgrade most of my network, and build towers out in a half mile range. This was to get the 30Mbps plan rates to really work. The costs were skyrocketing because of all the towers and sectors. I think the real winners of late are still the rural and low density wireless provider domains. They are the ones with clean enough spectrum to cost this competitively. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via Af *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 6:41 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail Bring out the Holy Grenade of Antioch... Jaime Solorza On Oct 24, 2014 5:56 PM, Jayson Baker via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Anyone else get this email? Anyone know what it is? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] questions about filters
And enough impacts.. lol. -Ty On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We are all “rough stones rolling” we knock the sharp edges off each other given enough time. *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] questions about filters Sidenote: I lack something called soft skills. It may come from having a father with a light case of Aspergers, a southern upbringing, and almost a decade of service in the Army. Probably a shitty trifecta towards developing interpersonal skills. It's not intentional. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/26/2014 08:46 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Josh, you have strong opinions and there's nothing wrong with that, but at times you come off very confrontational, IMO. Ken is one of the smartest people I know and I have great respect for him. I think most others here would agree. On 10/26/2014 11:28 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: If you're not fixing to the problem, you're contributing to it. You have some valid points about weaknesses in the formulas used in that chart. Do you talk to everyone this way? Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/26/2014 07:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Are you trying to be annoying, or just succeeding? *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:14 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] questions about filters Then post the correct formula, IYHO, so it can be fixed. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/26/2014 06:20 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: That doesn’t address my complaints about the USE of those formulas. Do you agree that WiFi bits/sec/Hz should be divided by 3 but LTE should not, because of assumptions about frequency reuse? In the context of a WISP application which may use GPS sync? How about assuming one spatial stream for WiFi but 8 for LTE? And what about treating LTE Advanced like a current technology but 802.11ac as a future technology? And 802.11n is capable of more than 1.2 bits/sec/Hz. If the formula disagrees with reality, it’s the formula (or the numbers plugged into the formula) that must change, not reality. It’s not like a Looney Toons cartoon where the character falls to the ground once you point out they can’t walk on air. *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] questions about filters The formulas are at the top of the chart. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/26/2014 05:31 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I think those numbers are flawed. Especially dividing the 802.11n numbers by 3 due to “frequency reuse” factor. And using SISO for 802.11n but 8x8 MIMO for LTE. Not to mention using 802.11n and not 802.11ac. Saying 802.11n is only good for 1.2 bits/sec/Hz is saying it can only do 24 Mbps in a 20 MHz channel. Hogwash. *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 5:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] questions about filters Well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectral_efficiency 802.11n has a spectral efficiency of around 1.2. LTE advanced has a spectral efficiency of _30_. If we could get some fairly cheap radio chipsets with even a 10-15 in spectral efficiency at this point, we would probably all be incredibly happy. Doing that would likely cause us to (A) Not be compatible with 802.11 (fine by me), and (B) would require mass market adoption. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/26/2014 02:40 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: That's what I was hoping for but I was told to sit down. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bill Prince via Af mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:36:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] questions about filters Perhaps some innovation in improving efficiency? Maybe takes someone thinking outside of the current box(es). bp On 10/26/2014 9:55 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: I was just going to mention that. Make a clean signal and you don’t have to filter so much. Anyone remember what a Class A amplifier is? (45% efficient at best) Cavity filters? I would think that in this day and age, you ought to be able to go DSP direct to antenna up to a 5 volt p-p signal. Or if you had to use a PA, inject a pre-distortion component. The cable TV guys have been dealing with these issues for decades. And then there is the issue with physical size of filters. A nice filter, with decent response and low insertion loss is large. SAW
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 dual slant panel;
ITElite has options.\ http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/33-37GHz-80216-Wimax/ -Ty On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Search for 3.5 dual pol panel Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Oct 25, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That would be nice for doing some nLOS shots thru a tree branch where a dish is to focused and a bare sm doesn't have enough gain. On Friday, October 24, 2014, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think there was a thread about 3.65 dual slant panels for PMP450 SMs, but I don't remember anyone being able to recommend anything, and I don't see anything out there except maybe something real expensive from MTI. I don't have a problem using a dish if I need the gain, just wondering if there is something more like 12x12 inches and 14-16 dBi.
Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail
I know Kung-Fu. -Ty On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I know GSM Jaime Solorza On Oct 25, 2014 3:38 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Atts network is not cdma Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Saturday, October 25, 2014 at 5:25 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail Dr. Fehrer's book from U of San Diego or Robert Winch's one. Both covered this.Isnt this what ATT is pushing in commercial about Picocells? Jaime Solorza On Oct 25, 2014 2:43 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Actually...CDMA techniques (PN modulation) re-channel a band based on time rather than frequency. In a multi point environment, this allows multiple people to share a frequency bandwidth in a not terribly inefficient way when all of the simultaneous communication paths are considered. On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, isochronous pseudorandom noise mod/demod techniques will pull info from sewer. I think the deep space network uses some of those techniques. But PN modulation does not help throughput. It wastes bandwidth. Speed/interference immunity/narrow channels – pick one. *From:* Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:27 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail The holy grail would be the ability to modulate a signal and receive it correctly in the face of withering interference. The GPS system accomplishes that through the technique of encoding the data within pseudo noise. The only problem being that GPS data is relatively static compared to what we deal with. bp On 10/25/2014 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: I think folks without deep experience in either 1) operating a WISP or 2)without deep experience in electrodynamics and modulation (99.999% of the general population) somehow think that Moore’s Law applies to wireless. The only way to scale this this stuff in a way approximating Moore’s Law is to just keep adding cell/ap sites. I read a book back in 1990 that outlined this problem for the nascent cell phone industry. The book is still spot on. *From:* Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 11:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail Or looky, looky, AC PTMP MU-MIMO. Imagine what that would do for White Space. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail Sterling, thank you! I think you and me must be the only ones who can see the elephant.. OH LOOKY LOOKY AC PTMP!! On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is it just me, or is no one realizing that we are still not that far from 2005 with wireless. Yes, we have 300-1Gbps capable radios. But they trade that for larger channel allocations and even more signal to noise requirements. But the spectrum allocations haven’t changed enough to use these new features to their fullest in a radio dense environment. When doing cost analysis in my area last year for wireless I realized I had to forklift upgrade most of my network, and build towers out in a half mile range. This was to get the 30Mbps plan rates to really work. The costs were skyrocketing because of all the towers and sectors. I think the real winners of late are still the rural and low density wireless provider domains. They are the ones with clean enough spectrum to cost this competitively. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via Af *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 6:41 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail Bring out the Holy Grenade of Antioch... Jaime Solorza On Oct 24, 2014 5:56 PM, Jayson Baker via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Anyone else get this email? Anyone know what it is? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Easy way to determine LOS
Why doesn't everyone know about heywhatsthat.com? Their Path Profiler tool is used everyday in our office and I use the Panorama tool for quick and easy viewsheds. Great stuff and free. -Ty On Oct 23, 2014 6:21 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I use Terrain Navigator Pro. It isn't perfect, but it is pretty good. The elevation data around here is close, but not perfect. Places where there aren't people aren't terribly accurate, but it uses USGS elevation data, has the option for a line of sight, options to change the elevation above ground level at each point. The newer versions account for curvature of the Earth, but I'm using an antiquated version on XP. - Original Message - *From:* Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Easy way to determine LOS Path profile software with clutter data, and bear in mind that ‘I can see it’ and ‘RF Line-Of-Sight’ are two very separate things. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Easy way to determine LOS Need to do a ptp shot but can't tell if I have clear LOS, any tricks with a telescope or something I can do without someone on the other side with a mirror or laser?
Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
So you're saying this is more marketing than innovation? -Ty On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Angle is pretty much solely dependent upon gain. So a typical horn is about as good as the best patch array or a smaller parabolic reflector. But they are worse than both in the mechanical sense. The higher the frequency the more practical horns become. *From:* Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:51 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement This is realy something I did not expect: They announce Systems with Horn antennas. A quite different approach. Their sectors are directional antennas so coverage is not as good as with traditional antennas (Their marketing argues the opposite). But horn antennas should have very low sidelobes, a good FB-Ratio and allow small angles. So it should be possible to make a more dense deployment. What make me scare is the big opening where water and ice may cause damage.
Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
For anyone curious the rundown is on their site already. It looks slick as hell but that doesn't mean much. http://simper.rfelements.com/ -Ty On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So you're saying this is more marketing than innovation? -Ty On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Angle is pretty much solely dependent upon gain. So a typical horn is about as good as the best patch array or a smaller parabolic reflector. But they are worse than both in the mechanical sense. The higher the frequency the more practical horns become. *From:* Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:51 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement This is realy something I did not expect: They announce Systems with Horn antennas. A quite different approach. Their sectors are directional antennas so coverage is not as good as with traditional antennas (Their marketing argues the opposite). But horn antennas should have very low sidelobes, a good FB-Ratio and allow small angles. So it should be possible to make a more dense deployment. What make me scare is the big opening where water and ice may cause damage.
Re: [AFMUG] Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets- Feedback Wanted
No idea. -Ty On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Why does this thread make me think of Wallace and Gromit? *From:* Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:43 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [QUAR] Re: Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets- Feedback Wanted +1! ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:37:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [QUAR] Re: Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets -Feedback Wanted Integra and Integra-S has 2x SFP +1 RJ-45 PoE. [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CE2975.BD4B6370] *Daniel White* | Managing Director *SAF North America LLC* *Cell:* (303) 746-3590 *Skype:* danieldwhite *E-mail:* daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2014 6:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [QUAR] Re: Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets - Feedback Wanted I look for radios with 2x SFP. I don't find them as often as I'd like. I'm not going to bed with the radio, so I don't care what it feels like. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Charles Wu via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, October 10, 2014 4:54:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [QUAR] Re: Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets - Feedback Wanted I'm ok with plastic, put a spare in each.. they often get lost anyway.. Economically, the plastic connectors make a lot of sense, but there's just something about it Some additional thoughts... The radio has a total of 4 holes (3 RJ-45 and 1 SFP connector for fiber) What if I were to include 1 metal connector, which will probably work for most since I imagine most people are still only using a single connector per radio (correct me if I'm wrong and you guys actually use NMS ports / etc) Regarding extra and/or spare connectors, it seems to make sense to include some extra plastic ones, and have an option for people who prefer * metal connectors* to pay extra for those (vs charging everyone an extra $100 / radio to include 3-4 extra connectors that might never be used). And if someone is ok with the plastic connector option, I'd probably just set it up a box of them customer service so they could just grab a handful and ship them out as necessary. Would having plastic *spare* connectors included make the Microwave radio feel *cheap* ? -Charles
Re: [AFMUG] Purchasing another WISP
C'mon Dennis, do the work for him! Give him the link to the right place directly. I thought self-promotion was your thing? ;) -Ty On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ispradio.com, hit the archive button, third from the left, (file cabinet thing) top link J Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 2:47 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Purchasing another WISP Were is the link? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr *From: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Reply-To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Date: *Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Purchasing another WISP We just went though a great ISP Radio episode with Jeff Kohler from Jab Wireless on Acquisitions! Check out the download! Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:06 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Purchasing another WISP It's all in how you manage the changes. Send a letter welcoming them to the family. Outline some of the steps you have taken to improve service, and that your company takes a very proactive approach to network monitoring, uptime, and performance. Let them know how to get customer support and how to contact your various departments. Taking these steps will increase retention, and sets the tone for what they can expect from their new provider. Additionally, describe the new plan options are and what plan they will be transferred to. If someone doesn't like their new plan, let them know what the upgrade options are. They can choose to upgrade or go somewhere else. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:02 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Take a page out of JABs handbook and just tell them to go ^%$ themselves if they dont like it On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I would probably just match it to the rest of your system. my guess is the majority of them won't even notice the difference... if you've cleaned up a lot of self interference issues, a lot of them will likely work better than they did before with the all the self interference issues. You probably will get a few that are mad they can't get 10mbps on a speed test at 2am anymore though... -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Glen Waldrop via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:51 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Purchasing another WISP I just bought another WISP, negotiating with another. The previous owners set up the system using Rocket M900 using 20MHz channels on everything, stomping all over itself and everyone else in the band. I changed that, did my best to stop the self interference, smaller channels, etc... This was just a tiny bit of back story to show what I've gotten myself in to. Everyone has unlimited access to their 10Mb fiber, which I have replaced by tying it into my network. There was no traffic shaping, no speed limits, no QoS. Most of them aren't heavy users, just a couple that run torrents 24/7. The P2P folks have been limited already. Not terribly worried about upsetting them. I'm a bit concerned I'm going to anger my new customers by matching the same config I have for my system of 1Mb/4Mb. How did/would you guys handle situations like this? My main QoS at the edge prevents any one person from hogging all the bandwidth. I'm currently torn between QoS at the tower and uncapping the CPE or limiting the CPE as I've always done. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts
I've been pinging hearbeat.belkin.com for a couple of hours now and it just went down hard. -Ty On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1369/Belkin.html Take your pick. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/07/2014 06:11 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote: 13 customers so far today - all Belkin. Powned? Mark On 10/7/14, 10:04 AM, Darren Shea via Af wrote: Is anyone else getting inundated with a flood of customers who can't connect to the internet through their Belkin routers this morning? �� What's the deal with that?, �� Darren
[AFMUG] Platypus + invalid packets
Any reason why my Platypus client won't connect to the server with this firewall rule active? add action=drop chain=forward comment=drop invalid packet types connection-state=\ invalid disabled=ye I disable that rule and everything is fine. I enable it and the connection times out and the client hangs/crashes. -Ty
[AFMUG] 320SM drop dhcp with firewall
Any reason this wouldn't catch DHCP server traffic from the customer? I just tried it and the packets are still hitting the firewall on the tower router. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] 320SM drop dhcp with firewall
Should I define the source address? I often see DHCP server packets with source of 192.168.1.1 or others. For instance in this case the packets the Mikrotik is catching look like this: forward: in:bridgeWAN(ether5) out:bridgeWAN(sfp1), src-mac 00:16:b6:85:26:b8, proto UDP, 192.168.1.1:67-255.255.255.255:68, len 328 -Ty On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Eric Muehleisen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Have you tried adding the src=0.0.0.0, dst=255.255.255.255 ? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Any reason this wouldn't catch DHCP server traffic from the customer? I just tried it and the packets are still hitting the firewall on the tower router. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question
That is why we haven't used surge protection for tower-top switches. If I were using more expensive switches up there I might reconsider. -Ty On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That was my first thought, but then it requieres a tower climb to change blown supressors.. Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Top Switch Surge Protection Question We do the Beehive APC surges. Gerard On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Those putting Switches at the tower top, what kind of protection are you using for the Ethernet ports? Are you using surge suppressors? I was thinking of using Industrial POE switches at the top, feed DC and fiber, then short runs to the radios (epmp and 450 are poe compliant) Should I go straigt to the radios? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack
Noob question but how can I easiest update my linux boxes to get the latest patches? -Ty On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Upgraded our systems at 6am yesterday for this. Also pulled the bash .deb out of debian-stable/security for our ubiquiti edgerouters. (I made on a post on the UBNT forum with the CVE info yesterday.) Side note: TONS of things are affected by this... Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 10:25 AM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: PS.. This vulnerability can be exploited via HTTP/Apache attack vectors, so you need to patch any vulnerable system running Apache. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltdwww.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/
Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack
Yeah I am trying to figure out what else I may be operating that is vulnerable. UBNT? Mikrotik? Cisco? -Ty On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It can be exposed by anything that invokes bash - which is a ton of stuff typically on Linux systems. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: PS.. This vulnerability can be exploited via HTTP/Apache attack vectors, so you need to patch any vulnerable system running Apache. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/
Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack
Cool. Sounds like only my Linux boxes are vulnerable really. Already patched them up. -Ty On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: UBNT not vulnerable as AirOS doesn't have bash, it uses busybox (already tested this myself). EdgeRouters all vulnerable. You can either download bash from debian stable/security, or wait for an incoming patch. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 12:04 PM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote: Yeah I am trying to figure out what else I may be operating that is vulnerable. UBNT? Mikrotik? Cisco? -Ty On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It can be exposed by anything that invokes bash - which is a ton of stuff typically on Linux systems. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: PS.. This vulnerability can be exploited via HTTP/Apache attack vectors, so you need to patch any vulnerable system running Apache. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 510-868-1614%20x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/
