That is the kicker for sure. The biggest drop-off in music piracy wasn't lawsuits or raids, it was iTunes and similar services making it easy to find and buy music online. The same hasn't happened for movies/tv yet. Netflix is great but the selection isn't ubiquitous. It has still made streaming video easy and affordable. A la carte is the big change to come I think. HBO Go for instance no longer going to require a cable subscription. You can pay for it separately and enjoy your HBO content on the internet. No cable company necessary. Of course as ISPs we have a different battle on our hands.
-Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > It's a shame those services are 1000% easier to use than products you pay > for. Oh well... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ty Featherling via Af <af@afmug.com> > wrote: > >> Me neither. My Plex server doesn't have any high quality material to >> stream to my Rokus and Chromecasts. It's a wasteland out there. >> >> -Ty >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> All I know is whatever these companies are doing is definitely working. >>> I can't find a single movie to pirate online. Definitely can't find mp4 >>> videos of Bluray rips that are a roughly 2 GBs and work with my >>> Chromecast/Xbox/TV. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Some variation of FRAPS if I remember correctly.. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Chris Wright via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the >>>>> encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the >>>>> playback computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Wright >>>>> >>>>> Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke >>>>> via Af >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon >>>>> streaming 4K now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy >>>>> protection was a little lacking. Ultimately it's still an analog medium >>>>> (you viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level. >>>>> Interpret the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, "Pixel 1342x975 >>>>> displaying color E0FFFF at timestamp 58:44:13.221" Maybe I'm naive, but >>>>> it >>>>> doesn't seem like it should be that hard..... >>>>> >>>>> On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from >>>>> RAM, they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would >>>>> figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet >>>>> for free. >>>>> >>>>> It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK. >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> >>>>> On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour. Why not stick >>>>> in a 32GB memory and be done? That would be almost 3 hours of buffer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming >>>>> services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing >>>>> deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), >>>>> they >>>>> would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage >>>>> space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full >>>>> retail... so places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for >>>>> less >>>>> than $2. Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a >>>>> TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could handle 60 seconds of video. >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> >>>>> On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That’s pretty cool. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You can do 4k direct from Youtube. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a >>>>> while, then burst back to 90Mbps. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on >>>>> the built in TV’s. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson via Af >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon >>>>> streaming 4K now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lovely >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering via Af >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon >>>>> streaming 4K now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Ryan Ghering >>>>> Network Operations - Plains.Net >>>>> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
