Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
That was a bad idea. I say Apple hits 115-120 before year end. On a 100k margin you could earn 14-19k return now until year end. Sept. Is a portfolio adjustment month so it naturally is a sell side month. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: > > FWIW, my investment advisor got me out of AAPL, and advises decreasing stocks > at this point especially those that don’t pay dividends and moving a higher > percentage into bonds. Of course risk tolerance varies with age (how many > years you have left to recover from a big loss). But he evidently feels > stocks have run up to the point where they are getting risky. > > Regarding AAPL, I had quite a paper loss at one time, finally recovered and > made a nice profit, but it looked pretty grim for awhile. The myth was it > would only go one way - up. Problem with Apple is they always have to hit it > out of the park, merely having a good quarter is a disappointment. It must > be like being a magician, but if you pulled a rabbit out of your hat last > night, tonight you need to pull a lion out of the hat, and tomorrow a > rhinoceros. Wait, I’m thinking of Rocky and Bullwinkle. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW7pITY5Cg > I could swear there was one where he pulled Rocky out of the hat. > > > From: Mike Hammett via Af > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. > > NetFlix and FaceBook haven't even existed "long term". > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > From: "CBB - Jay Fuller via Af" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:13:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. > > --- [ "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote ]: > --- > > Long term the stocks I'm interested in right now are Apple, Netflix, and > Facebook. They all have performed well long term. > I do not currently have any Netflix but it's also had a bit of a rocky road. > Look at its one year chart. > > - Original Message - > From: Travis Johnson via Af > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:46 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. > > --- [ Travis Johnson wrote ]: > --- > The stock market is not a good "long term" investment, in my opinion > unless you go into a fund like T. Rowe Price Blue Chip (which has returned me > 30% so far this year). A single stock is just too risky. > > The play is the one day in and out game... like this Alibaba stock... > > Travis > > On 9/19/2014 11:39 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: > --- [ Bill Prince mailto:part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com wrote ]: > --- > > > Wait until the euphoria wears off. I'll bet it hits $60 before the end of > the year. > > bp > On 9/19/2014 9:32 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: > > wheit really tanked there. below $91 > > - Original Message - > From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. > > > interesting...i'm listening. lol. > > - Original Message - > From: Travis Johnson via Af > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. > > I disagree... I think today will be an amazing ride... people will make a TON > of money if their timing is right. > > Travis > > On 9/19/2014 9:05 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: > I would not touch that offering with a 10 foot pole. I see nothing but > sorrow. Too much hype. Too much unknown. > > bp > On 9/19/2014 6:41 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: > > Anyone trying to get in on Alibaba's IPO? > Thoughts? > Comments? > Complaints? > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
Had you bought two years ago...along with Carl you would just about doubled your money. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > > Apple today without split would be in the $700 range > > Sent from my Motorola Startac... > > > On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:38 PM, "Ken Hohhof via Af" wrote: > >> On the Yahoo Finance chart, go to the Events drop-down menu, and put a >> checkmark next to Splits. Hover over the split marker to get the details. >> >> From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af >> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:24 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. >> >> >> Keep in mind apple has actually splitit was trading what, $400+ a few >> months ago? >> I wish charts had some way of showing that but based on what i've been able >> to see, they never do. >> All the sources of information (tv, media, charts) just go like it never >> happened >> >> You can google split information. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Ken Hohhof via Af >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. >> >> Well, Travis says get in and out in a day. You say 20-50 years. That >> pretty much covers any strategy you want to pick. And some people are >> putting all their money in Bitcoin. >> >> From: Bruce Robertson via Af >> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:17 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. >> >> I would call two years very short term because my investing horizon is 20+ >> years. And I'm already (mostly) retired. (Consulting gigs keep cropping >> up...) If I were still in my 20s, my horizon would be 50 years. >> >>> On 9/20/2014 1:03 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>> Take a look at this: >>> http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AAPL+Interactive#symbol=AAPL;range=5y >>> >>> and now imagine you are the advisor who put me (and no doubt other clients) >>> into AAPL in September 2012. You can either call up those clients and say >>> good news, after 2 years of staring at a loss, you can finally take a nice >>> profit and invest in something else. Or you can say buy another ticket and >>> take another roller coaster ride. >>> >>> Besides, after years of almost getting negative interest on fixed income >>> (in Europe they actually pay banks to park money), there are finally some >>> options in stocks that pay dividends and even bond funds that are >>> worthwhile putting 25 or 30% of your money in, making sure they are short >>> maturity because their value will go down once the Fed starts raising >>> interest rates. >>> >>> But as far as ignoring short term stock market swings, I’m not sure I’d >>> call 2 years short term. And if you look at the chart, AAPL looks exactly >>> like it did 2 years ago. Sure, it could go up. But let’s face it, what >>> did they announce. A couple phablets which are really just catching up to >>> competition, and a smartwatch for next year. Samsung is already mocking >>> the iPhone 6+ in their Galaxy Note 4 ads, and how sure are you that a $349 >>> smartwatch will be the next must-have gadget? And iPad sales have slowed >>> because once people have one, they don’t trade up to the next version like >>> they do phones, and a lot of them are WiFi only and not tied to a carrier 2 >>> year cycle. >>> >>> >>> From: Bruce Robertson via Af >>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:46 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. >>> >>> I only agree with your investment advisor if you're within 2-5 years of >>> retirement and you will be relying on those assets to live on. Otherwise, >>> he/she is steering you wrong. IMO, of course. Your example of AAPL >>> illustrates exactly why. You need to totally ignore short term stock >>> market swings, and keep some cash on hand for buying when plunges like 2008 >>> happen. BTW this takes nerves of steel. >>> On 09/20/2014 12:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: FWIW, my investment advisor got me out of AAPL, and advises decreasing stocks at this point especially those that don’t pay dividends and moving a higher percentage into bonds. Of course risk tolerance varies with age (how many years you have left to recover from a big loss). But he evidently feels stocks have run up to the point where they are getting risky. Regarding AAPL, I had quite a paper loss at one time, finally recovered and made a nice profit, but it looked pretty grim for awhile. The myth was it would only go one way - up. Problem with Apple is they always have to hit it out of the park, merely having a good quarter is a disappointment. It must be like being a magician, but if you pulled a rabbit out of your hat last night, tonight you need to pul
Re: [AFMUG] Cogent
$700-1k Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: > > Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC > >> On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Matt via Af wrote: >> What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter? > > > -- > Darin Steffl > Minnesota WiFi > www.mnwifi.com > 507-634-WiFi > Like us on Facebook >
Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?
Chuck, Are you doing any 8-10 gauge runs exceeding 500' ? I can't seem to find what I need Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote: > > We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard > has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet. > > Regards, > Chuck > >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af wrote: >> This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. >> >> http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html >> >> Outdoor, UV resistant, etc. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: >> > Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower >> > >> > 30-40w total power >> > >> > Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? >> > >> > We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes... >> > >> > Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT
Don't believe any of that bs. You can destroy Russia by dropping oil to $50 barrel. September and October funds sell off and take new positions for the upcoming year. Happens every year at the same time and people start screaming! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: > > I've heard the downward pressure is due to the US / Russia spat and trade > restrictions. > >> On 10/3/2014 2:17 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote: >> Wow... looks like UBNT is struggling on the market the last two weeks. Down >> to $35 today. Glad I sold at $48 a few weeks ago. :) >> >> Who posted it would be at $75 by year's end? Hope they weren't really >> counting on that... >> >> Travis > > -- > > Randy Cosby > InfoWest, Inc > 435-674-0165 x 2010 > infowest.com > > This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc > and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. > > Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy > the original message, all attachments and copies. >
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fails to deliver
LOL! Love it and so true Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > From: "af@afmug.com" > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 at 11:28 AM > To: "af@afmug.com" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fails to deliver > > They are still testing and tweaking firmware. They are not vaporware and are > actively updating the Beta community. I can't say much more yet but that they > are continually updating those of us in the Beta group and are working on > tweaking the software to be as reliable as possible before releasing the > product. Give them 1-2 more months and we should see good things. > >> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af wrote: >> Even the test links our Distributor should have gotten did not arrive. >> >> So seems like another marketing driven company. >> > > > > -- > Darin Steffl > Minnesota WiFi > www.mnwifi.com > 507-634-WiFi > Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts
Just a few here. I preach NETGEAR and most customers have converted. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Darren Shea via Af wrote: > > Is anyone else getting inundated with a flood of customers who can't connect > to the internet through their Belkin routers this > morning? > > What's the deal with that?, > Darren > >
Re: [AFMUG] WTF apex 9 cable defects
We dropped Apex a couple years ago. IMHO it's not good outdoor cable. Switched to shielded Shireen and haven't looked back. In fact, knocking on wood now, we think the Shireen has protected us from ESD. We have not seen an AP OR SM damaged if the site has Shireen installed. We did see numerous issues with Apex. Thank you to the WISP members on the list who recommended it. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:07 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af > wrote: > > I think I'm going to get some of the Shireen DC-1021 stuff to try. The > Belden/Best-Tronics is good cable, but I hate that it doesn't have a rip > cord. The Shireen stuff looks almost the same.. with a rip cord. > >> On 10/7/2014 11:32 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >> You can use the wooden reels as end tables or foot rests when they’re empty. >> >> From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af >> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:19 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTF apex 9 cable defects >> >> Cheapest I seen on that 1300a is $300/roll. Almost seems worth it after >> seeing this crap today... >> >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> Wavelinc Communications >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> http://www.wavelinc.com >> tel. 419-562-6405 >> fax. 419-617-0110 >> >>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>> Never seen a defect with Belden 1300A/7919A or the Best-Tronics clone of >>> it. It ain’t cheap though. >>> >>> From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:32 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: [AFMUG] WTF apex 9 cable defects >>> >>> Been using APEX 9 cable for 3 years with no problems until the last year. >>> Earlier this year I unrolled some off a spool and the outer jacket was >>> missing in a spot, CTI sent me a new box and wanted the old one back, today >>> found another box with a HUGE section of outerjacket missing, obvious >>> manufacturing defect because the footage marking was printed on the foil >>> shield! Opened another box from the same pallet and immediately found >>> another defect on that roll that wasn't even off the spool yet. >>> >>> I need to find another brand of cable, I CAN NOT be having these poor >>> quality control issues showing up on towers which is where this cable was >>> being installed today >>> >>> Kurt Fankhauser >>> Wavelinc Communications >>> P.O. Box 126 >>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>> fax. 419-617-0110 >
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa pipe dream?
Looks like a product with great potentialnext year... With that said, it would appear every hardware company in our industry seems to make promises they can't make good on. I guess this has become acceptable for some reason. It's very disappointing behavior. I think these engineers need to spend a week in harsh weather on towers before they 'truely' get it. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:59 AM, TJ Trout via Af wrote: > > I was thinking about Mimosa, and I can't think of anything else they could > promise that we would want, except maybe Golden Unicorns for Steve, seems > like their promises are so far fetched that it might all be smoke and > mirrors? Any thoughts?
Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless
Sounds right. They bought a hardware company and use their own branded equipment on the wireless side. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: > > Spoke to young guys from Vivint > Today at lunch and they are beta testing 50 x 50 mbps wireless using a fiber > fed hub and then cover a neighborhood. Testing here and Utah somewhere. > They work for automation branch and didnt know particulars. Anyone hear > about this? > Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless
They should just buy us all up. Think of the home security potential. I see great reward in that market but have no clue how to do it right ! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote: > > What's more amazing is the valuation/sale they just received about a year > ago... the founder sold 50% of the company for $2bn. > > $360 million a year in revenue, even at 50% profit margin, is $180 million > profit. It will take 11 years to make that money back, but they only own > 50%... so it would take 22 years to make that money back. They must see huge > potential with the company and future projects. > > Travis > >> On 10/23/2014 10:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: >> Vivint claims an installed base of 800,000 and $30 million in monthly >> revenue (http://www.vivint.com/company/about-us). That's not chump change. >> >> It would appear that their fixed wireless internet product is a small part >> of their overall enterprise. >> bp >> >>> On 10/23/2014 8:55 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>> Is it kind of a Trojan Horse thing? Get in the door selling Internet, then >>> sell them home security and that’s where they make the real money? >>> >>> BTW, I’m not knocking that approach. I think we underestimate the power of >>> DISH, Direct, VZ/AT&T Wireless, they are already inside the castle walls >>> and upselling the customer to increase their ARPU. As you drive around >>> your coverage area, imagine you had the email address and phone number of >>> every target customer, and were already billing them monthly, and could >>> stick flyers in the bills, and send texts to their phones, and to the >>> customer your service was just another line item in that bundle. Of course >>> they may also hate you, but you have to rise to a pretty high hate level >>> for people to cancel their bundle. >>> >>> >>> From: Travis Johnson via Af >>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:09 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless >>> >>> 20,000 - 30,000 subs in a year and half is great... but they have probably >>> $20mm into it, and they are dumping more money (millions) into it as >>> well it's a "play" thing for them. Kind of like Google's "fiber across >>> the ocean" project... something cool, but not really your core business. >>> >>> Travis >>> On 10/23/2014 8:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Yeah, but they got that far... in a year? Year and a half? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Travis Johnson via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:30:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless Well, they only have about 150,000 more subs to go... :) Travis On 10/23/2014 6:35 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: *nods* They've been doing this for over a year. Last year at WISPAPALOOZA they had like 30 people there. Some expect them to overtake JAB as the largest WISP in the states. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "TJ Trout via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:43:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless Where have you been? Lol search the list :] > On Oct 22, 2014 8:39 PM, "Jaime Solorza via Af" wrote: > Spoke to young guys from Vivint > Today at lunch and they are beta testing 50 x 50 mbps wireless using a > fiber fed hub and then cover a neighborhood. Testing here and Utah > somewhere. They work for automation branch and didnt know particulars. > Anyone hear about this? > Jaime Solorza >
Re: [AFMUG] Employee damaging equipment
He said it was his brother right ? Who cares! Your brother is your blood. Sh!t happens Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: > > Federal labor law says you can't hold employees financial responsible for > broken/lost tools. (from my understanding) > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com > >> On 10/23/2014 04:22 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote: >> How do you guys handle it when an employee damages or loses equipment? >> >> This is my baby brother's first job. He tied the ladder and it fell out of >> the truck, no where to be found. >> >> He said he's going to either get me one or pay me back, just curious how >> everyone else handles this. >> >> I've never run into it yet. >> � >
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Canopy stuff...
What did you put in place of this equipment ? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: > > Have for sale: > > qty 25 - 2400SM P10 used - $75/each > qty 3 -- 430AP 5.4ghz DES version $1000/each > qty 3 -- 90 degree moto sectors, (2 older bigger ones, 1 newer smaller one) > $150/each > qty 30 -- 430SM 5.4ghz 10mbps DES version $150/each > > reply to k...@wavelinc.com > > Kurt Fankhauser > Wavelinc Communications > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > http://www.wavelinc.com > tel. 419-562-6405 > fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs
For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I require OHSA 10, at a minimum, for all employees now, including CPR CERT. Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but I have yet to see ANYONE do it. I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the cellular side. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: > > We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked. > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com > >> On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: >> Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP. >> >> From: Josh Reynolds via Af >> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM >> To: af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List >> Subject: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs >> >> Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources specific >> to our industry that could help with this? >> >> Thanks >> -- >> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer >> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com >> >
[AFMUG] UBNT 24 Bounce
Guys, Seeing a 24ghz bouncing and throwing low bandwidth numbers. Session and throughput graphs look great when up. Cable pairs are like 26-29 snr. Ericsson said an LTE sector started acting up. Clearly different RF but seems odd. New terminations and power supplies. No luck. Bypass surge protection same result Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] Working with Crown Castle vs. American Tower
The rep that works or worked at Crown Castle in Indianapolis used to work for another company I did IT work for. He spent his days infectimg his business laptop with porn. He needed a 'lazy' job that he could overcharge customers and get kick backs forso he joined Crown. Many of us can install our equipment better then the drugged up contractors that Crown uses. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote: > > No. I have not at all. In fact, my most recent increase has us over $6600 > for 4 towers that barely turn $7k in revenue. I'm trying to get land leases > with the property owners for a new tower or in a near location right now. > > Regards, > Chuck > >> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af wrote: >> Amen to crown castle we are doing a new site and we wanted to use crown >> instead of building our own site. But it's been a month and no contact from >> them. So we are laying conduit next week for fiber >> >> Cc can kiss my A$$ too >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: >>> >>> CC can go suck a bag of dicks. AT is much easier to work with. Too many >>> stories of CC screwing people over. >>> >>> Obviously better yet if you can find a regional or local tower company. >>> >>> http://youtu.be/OT7xc_XqYO8 >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "Paul McCall via Af" >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:20:15 AM >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Working with Crown Castle vs. American Tower >>> >>> We have 3 Crown Castle towers that we have had since 2003. Started around >>> $ 500 per month for 4 sectors and 2 BHs back then. Rent escalations plus >>> now having 6 sectors on it now, have brought the rent up to around $ >>> 1000/month. We are exploring our other options for new towers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Two of the ideal locations are Crown Castle sites and I called them. My CC >>> rep sent me all the standard fee sheets - $ 5K and up etc. and high rents. >>> >>> >>> >>> Has anyone got any precedence for pricing with CC where they have become >>> competitive to someone like American Tower and their 4WISP program? A.T. >>> starts at $ 500 for 2 3ft BHs and 4 Sectors. A premium tower, as they call >>> it, can have a $ 100 to $ 150 uptick, but that still seems reasonable. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul McCall, Pres. >>> >>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband >>> >>> 658 Old Dixie Highway >>> >>> Vero Beach, FL 32962 >>> >>> 772-564-6800 office >>> >>> 772-473-0352 cell >>> >>> www.pdmnet.com >>> >>> pa...@pdmnet.net >>> >
Re: [AFMUG] How common are crc errors on pmp100
Craig that ratio is fine. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Craig Schmaderer via Af wrote: > > This is a radio that has been up for 93 days, it is very heavy on traffic, > would you say there is an issue with this radio? It is on a clean tower > that only I am on. There are 4 other canopy radios on this tower receiving > sync from a CTM1. All radios are just CAT5e cable non shielded, length is > about 180’ tops. Also there is a PTP800 with lmr 400 ran along with it, I > never noticed this before, all other radios are showing about the same number > of CRC errors, is this expectable? > > > Ethernet Link Detected : > 1 > Ethernet Link Lost : > 0 > Undersized Toss Count : > 0 > inoctets Count : > 4054728244 > inucastpkts Count : > 1954469296 > Innucastpkts Count : > 56834740 > indiscards Count : > 0 > inerrors Count : > 231695 > inunknownprotos Count : > 0 > outoctets Count : > 3150773755 > outucastpktsCount : > 1289988260 > outnucastpkts Count : > 1597027 > outdiscards Count : > 0 > outerrors Count : > 0 > RxBabErr : > 0 > TxHbErr : > 0 > EthBusErr : > 0 > CRCError : > 231601 > RcvFifoNoBuf : > 94 > RxOverrun : > 0 > LateCollision : > 0 > RetransLimitExp : > 0 > TxUnderrun : > 0 > CarSenseLost : > 0 > No Carrier : > 0 > > Craig R. Schmaderer > CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc. > Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058 > Direct: 402-372-1052 >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force
Yes in training it was confirmed that the ePmP can get power and sync through CMM 3&4 but the 3 may be tricky to workaround. Also you can gps time your PTP link but it wasn't recommend. You should use the Mac level for your ptp Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 22, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: > > Jeff, > > It looks like you are saying that the connectorized radios withouth sync CAN > indeed get sync from external source, CMM3, CMM4, sync injector. > > I wasn’t aware that was the case > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists > via Af > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 12:36 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force > > The 110 PTP unit has sync on board...disabled...expect that's to keep us from > buying that unit and swapping the radios for a connectorized unit without > sync. :-) > > I expect that, like the connectorized radio without sync, that you can take > sync from a different source, like a CMM4. > > > Jeff Broadwick > ConVergence Technologies, Inc. > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > > On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: > > For Cambium we have a very remote tower that feeds several other towers. > Everything is OSPF but logically... > > Tower R (the main remote tower - a 190 ft. Rohn 25G with several anti-twist > devices) is "fed" by... >Tower A - 26 miles away - UBNT 3.65ghz Rocket M5 AND a Mikrotik RB912 5 Ghz >This commercial tower (Tower A) has over 300Mbit of usable bandwidth > and feeds about 75 to 85 Mbit to Tower A >Tower B - 9 miles away - UBNT 5ghz Rocket M5 >This tower (Tower B) is a 90 ft. Rohn 25G > > Tower R then feeds... >Tower C - 12 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 50 Mbit of usable > bandwidth. (Rohn 25G 120 ft.) >Tower D - 15 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable > bandwidth. (Rohn 25G 120 ft.) >Tower E - 17 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable > bandwidth. (Rohn 25G 120 ft.) >Tower F - 14 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable > bandwidth. (Rohn 25G 120 ft.) > > To get all this to work without Sync was quite a frequency juggling act. > There are other towers in the area and towers C, D, E, F connect (chain) to > each other on the "back side" and we use a couple 3.65Ghz UBNT radios on the > backside links. > > The challenge... > > First of all, I need more BW to each tower, but mostly Tower C. And, I need > better consistency... at times the links do not perform as I expect and then > I get customer complaints etc. I hate that. > > So, what would be the best solution that Cambium can recommend other than a > ton of licensed links? Obviously, the gear I am using now is inexpensive. > > The PTP110 solution ... 2ms unsyncedcan it sync, now or tomorrow? > Latency with sync? > > Paul > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:47 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force > > > Hi, > > Please allow me to clarify. > > The Force 110 uses the Connectorized UnSync'd unit with the two 10/100 FE > ports. > > The Force 110 PTP uses the Connectorized GPS Sync'd unit with the > single GigE port that supports 802.3af PoE in addition to proprietary PoE. > GPS capabilities will be disabled (but the radio can still use the on board > GPS chip to track satellites and provide coordinates). > > The 2ms latency is achieved purely through software changes in Release 2.4 > and will apply to both products. > > Reading this spec sheet. > > http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/files/PRODUCTS/ePMP/FORCE/Force%20110%20PTP_Oct2014.pdf > > > LATENCY (nominal, one way) < 2 ms (PTP Mode), 6 ms (Flexible Frame > Mode) , 17 ms (GPS Sync Mode)
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 13.2 and PTP 230's
Thanks, Cambium sent us the beta to test. It's up and running on all 230s in our network. We are watching for this issue to redevelop. Right now it seems stable ... Give us 24 hrs Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Adam Bates wrote: > > Roll back to 13.1.3 (Somewhat more stable). Apparently they didn’t fix the > watchdog reset on the 230 models as well as created new problems on 13.2. > They targeted the 13.2 upgrade for the PMP450. Have you been seeing the > master side reboot? Are you using a sync device on your master? If so try > setting it to generate sync. We have seen this fix the session/re-reg > problems also. > > 13.3 is supposed to fix this issue. > > Email from Cambium Support: > > Just to summarize our phone call, we're lookign at the already reported > issue, that affects PTP230/450. At this time, there's only a PTP450 beta > version, which addresses this issue available. Due to public holidays, i > cannot check the availability of the PTP230 beta version with our development > team, however, i expect to have this information on Monday 12/1. I will keep > you informed. > > Thanks > > With best regards > Pavel Onz > Level 2 Engineering > > Haven’t received any additional updates since 11/28. > > Adam Bates > FreedomNet Solutions > aba...@freedomnet.com > > > From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf > Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:21 AM > To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com > Subject: [WISPA Members] Canopy 13.2 and PTP 230's > > Hey guys, > > I loaded the 13.2 on the PTP 230’s last week. We have been seeing the count > and Reg count increment since, which can cause drops. > Did I miss something with this firmware? > > Tyson Burris, President > Internet Communications Inc. > 739 Commerce Dr. > Franklin, IN 46131 > > 317-738-0320 Daytime # > 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # > Online: www.surfici.net > > > What can ICI do for you? > > Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP > Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the > addressee shown. It contains information that is > confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, > dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by > unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly > prohibited. > > > ___ > Members mailing list > memb...@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
Re: [AFMUG] OT Scientists pick up strange signals that may point to dark matter’s existence | General News
It's red matter according to Star Trek Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: > > SYN > > <50 years pass> > > ACK > >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: >> SPACE CONTROL TO EARTH >> http://www.betawired.com/scientists-pick-up-strange-signals-that-may-point-to-dark-matters-existence/1422255/ >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Licensed Links / Air fiber - 4 Sale
Ok guys- this is all sold now so thanks for checking! I'll repost if something changes Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy via Af wrote: > > Dish size on the Trangos? Or are these just the radios? > >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Sam Lambie via Af wrote: >> How the hell do we make an offer offlist when we can't see your real email >> address? >> >> I am scl at taosnet.com hit me up please. >> >> Sam >> >>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc >>> via Af wrote: >>> Hey guys- >>> >>> >>> >>> We have the following not in use and taking up shelf or tower space. Make >>> offer off list if interested. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1.Used – UBNT Air fiber 24Ghz link Complete >>> >>> 2.Trango AD11G-2-S2 (2 full complete links) >>> >>> >>> >>> Note: The Trango’s have never been used, but have been on the towers >>> exposed to the weather. >>> >>> The Air fiber actually did everything we needed so we had opted not to use >>> the Trango’s. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tyson Burris, President >>> Internet Communications Inc. >>> 739 Commerce Dr. >>> Franklin, IN 46131 >>> >>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # >>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # >>> Online: www.surfici.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What can ICI do for you? >>> >>> >>> Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP >>> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. >>> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the >>> addressee shown. It contains information that is >>> confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, >>> dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by >>> unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly >>> prohibited. >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Sam Lambie >> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >> 575-758-7598 Office >> www.Taosnet.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
The proxy was a beautiful thing. I told the engineers not to take it away and leave 169.254.1.1 for even the ePmP Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov via Af wrote: > > One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal network > between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so > smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having the right IP > address set in the SM before you can manage it (even when connecting > from the AP). > We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major > headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with > ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the > closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change > IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat. > > Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope it > gets properly implemented. > > Vlad > >> On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: >> How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done with epmp? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>> On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af" wrote: >>> For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access to a >>> minimally configured CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have to >>> get out a computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up, point it >>> at the tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check >>> and go. Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely. >>> >>> This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the CPE >>> but it's not as clean as Canopy. >>> >>> No way at all that I know of with ePMP. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af wrote: Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field techs can't FUBAR an install. When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago that made the process super safe. One of the "best features" of the canopy platform in my book. It annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP or vlan. > On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" wrote: > Me too. > > I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have > finger to count on. > > -- > bp > > > On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: >> No, rather just have it. >> >>> On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: >>> Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" wrote: I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a show-stopper to not have it. This brings me to a new post... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to make this work. Please do it. > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > >
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
I agree with Mike. No balls running this place. I would say fk you I am doing a sequel now just to piss you off and shove it up your a$$ Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: > > Agreed. Buncha pussies and not the good kind. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > From: "Jason McKemie via Af" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack > > On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to > these dumbasses in regards to "The Interview". Isn't that tantamount to > negotiating with a terrorist? > > On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af wrote: >> I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound >> like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). >> The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi >> connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much >> data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the >> hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of >> data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. >
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results
It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going to it. Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this point ?? My complaints are... Wish it had alignment tone. We are so use to our easy breezy alignment tool with FSK and OFDM. Going to the led lights was a step back I guess to help keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP REFLECTOR like that? That's dumb. Give me my headset back so I can listen to music. Some of the UI loads slow and is missing some nice features we see in the other cambium gear. Sync and throughput is good. Force 110 dish is small...wish it was bigger to add the db loss from taking Rockets down. Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price. So I am crying about it Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af wrote: > > Just curious Who out there has had positive or negative results from EPMP. > What are the pluses and minuses? I know price is a plus but other than > that?? > > Craig
Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?
Yep my brother can't play his new game Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: > > Well, at least they took down both, so as to not give an unfair advantage to > one. :P > > From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ken Hohhof via Af [af@afmug.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:54 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down? > > https://gigaom.com/2014/12/25/scrooges-strike-xbox-live-playstation-network-hacked-outage/ > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*********, Re: Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?
All our technology and such a simple act of flooding can bring things to a halt. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > > I can't play a single player game... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > >> On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af >> wrote: >> Yep my brother can't play his new game >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: >> > >> > Well, at least they took down both, so as to not give an unfair advantage >> > to one. :P >> > >> > From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ken Hohhof via Af >> > [af@afmug.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:54 PM >> > To: af@afmug.com >> > Subject: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down? >> > >> > https://gigaom.com/2014/12/25/scrooges-strike-xbox-live-playstation-network-hacked-outage/ >> > >> > >> >
[AFMUG] UBNT equipment - Atlanta
I need help. Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to my brother in laws. They moved to another house in Cobb County. Have a three story home with a Belkin. Wifi sucks. Will never be able to work here ! Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ? Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Well. I already said the alignment function is sh!t and I stand by that. Just turn the damn thing into a Canopy spin off with the same features. Engineers seem to over complicate things. (Like a woman) Sorry Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: > > I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can > no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would > get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just > loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in > the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster > than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 > minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware > and "try" to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup > config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all > day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that > already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime > i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming > out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i > got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. > > Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us > all > > > > > Kurt Fankhauser > Wavelinc Communications > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > http://www.wavelinc.com > tel. 419-562-6405 > fax. 419-617-0110
