Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Ken Hohhof via Af]

That’s kind of like saying my Android phone worked as a hammer so my iPhone 
should work even better as a hammer.  When the right answer is, don’t use your 
phone as a hammer.

I figure in 5 GHz each tree is going to cost you 10-20 dB of signal.  Unless it 
is midway and it doesn’t occupy the full Fresnel zone, and again the 5 GHz is 
working against you because Fresnel zone is narrower than it would at 2.4 GHz 
or 900 MHz.  Finally, if you can’t see the other end (because of trees), you 
really don’t know what you are shooting at.  You could be aimed off to the 
side, or there could actually be a hill in the way, unless you have walked left 
or right until the tree no longer blocks the path.


From: Alan West via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

Well, yes, I agree with you. But I have had very good luck with Ubiquiti 5.x 
gear with "near" line of site. So, I thought, Cambium should do it better, 
right?



On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:30 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af  
wrote:




Trying to get nLOS from 5 gig is where you are doing it wrong. 


On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Alan West via Af  wrote:

  AP is set:
  Transmitter output power 23
  antenna gain 13


  This is the standard Cambium sector.



  On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman via Af  
wrote:




  I don't think you want to do NLOS in 5 GHz at all.  That's why I doubled up 
APs and have 2/5 on each sector.
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  On Dec 23, 2014 5:16 PM, "Brian Sullivan via Af"  wrote:

Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz?
I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but certainly 
not 5+.
Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to?


On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

  Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles?  Got -67 and some very nice 
bandwidth bumps.
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:

Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems 
dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper 
band from 5740-58xx checked.


Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s?







On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af 
 wrote:




Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the 
frequencies/sizes you've enabled.
I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed 
in.  Saves time in scanning.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:

  Hello all.

  I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over 
to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 
at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. 

  I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them 
working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.

  I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, 
at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site 
(neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. 
They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is 
along a creek.

  Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something 
configured wrong.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Alan West via Af]

Well, yes, I agree with you. But I have had very good luck with Ubiquiti 5.x 
gear with "near" line of site. So, I thought, Cambium should do it better, 
right? 

 On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:30 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af  
wrote:
   

 Trying to get nLOS from 5 gig is where you are doing it wrong.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Alan West via Af  wrote:

AP is set:Transmitter output power 23antenna gain 13
This is the standard Cambium sector. 

 On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman via Af  
wrote:
   

 I don't think you want to do NLOS in 5 GHz at all.  That's why I doubled up 
APs and have 2/5 on each sector.Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373On Dec 23, 2014 5:16 PM, "Brian Sullivan via Af"  
wrote:

  Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz?
 I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but certainly 
not 5+.
 Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to?
 
 On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
  
 Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles?  Got -67 and some very nice 
bandwidth bumps. Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, "Alan West via Af"  
wrote:
 
   Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems dreadfully 
slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper band from 
5740-58xx checked. 
  Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s? 
  
  
 
   On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af 
 wrote:
   
 
   Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the 
frequencies/sizes you've enabled. I would suggest limiting the frequencies to 
the band you're deployed in.  Saves time in scanning. Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  
wrote:
 
 Hello all. 
  I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it 
from my  legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at 
about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.  
  I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a 
customers  home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. 
  I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 
miles. This  is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site 
(neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. 
They are not very  wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is 
along a creek. 
  Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured 
wrong. 
   
 
   
  
 
 






   

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Kade Sullivan via Af]

Trying to get nLOS from 5 gig is where you are doing it wrong.


On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Alan West via Af  wrote:

> AP is set:
> Transmitter output power 23
> antenna gain 13
>
> This is the standard Cambium sector.
>
>
>   On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman via Af 
> wrote:
>
>
> I don't think you want to do NLOS in 5 GHz at all.  That's why I doubled
> up APs and have 2/5 on each sector.
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 23, 2014 5:16 PM, "Brian Sullivan via Af"  wrote:
>
>  Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz?
> I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but
> certainly not 5+.
> Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to?
>
> On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
>
> Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles?  Got -67 and some very nice
> bandwidth bumps.
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:
>
>  Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems
> dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper
> band from 5740-58xx checked.
>
>  Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s?
>
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <
> af@afmug.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the
> frequencies/sizes you've enabled.
> I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in.
> Saves time in scanning.
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:
>
>   Hello all.
>
>  I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to
> it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running
> 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.
>
>  I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working
> at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
>
>  I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at
> 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of
> site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in
> the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees
> deep. Each is along a creek.
>
>  Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something
> configured wrong.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Alan West via Af]

AP is set:Transmitter output power 23antenna gain 13
This is the standard Cambium sector. 

 On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman via Af  
wrote:
   

 I don't think you want to do NLOS in 5 GHz at all.  That's why I doubled up 
APs and have 2/5 on each sector.Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373On Dec 23, 2014 5:16 PM, "Brian Sullivan via Af"  
wrote:

  Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz?
 I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but certainly 
not 5+.
 Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to?
 
 On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
  
 Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles?  Got -67 and some very nice 
bandwidth bumps. Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, "Alan West via Af"  
wrote:
 
   Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems dreadfully 
slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper band from 
5740-58xx checked. 
  Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s? 
  
  
 
   On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af 
 wrote:
   
 
   Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the 
frequencies/sizes you've enabled. I would suggest limiting the frequencies to 
the band you're deployed in.  Saves time in scanning. Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  
wrote:
 
 Hello all. 
  I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it 
from my  legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at 
about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.  
  I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a 
customers  home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. 
  I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 
miles. This  is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site 
(neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. 
They are not very  wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is 
along a creek. 
  Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured 
wrong. 
   
 
   
  
 
 


   

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Josh Luthman via Af]

I don't think you want to do NLOS in 5 GHz at all.  That's why I doubled up
APs and have 2/5 on each sector.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 23, 2014 5:16 PM, "Brian Sullivan via Af"  wrote:

>  Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz?
> I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but
> certainly not 5+.
> Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to?
>
> On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
>
> Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles?  Got -67 and some very nice
> bandwidth bumps.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:
>
>>  Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems
>> dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper
>> band from 5740-58xx checked.
>>
>>  Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <
>> af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the
>> frequencies/sizes you've enabled.
>> I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in.
>> Saves time in scanning.
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:
>>
>>   Hello all.
>>
>>  I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over
>> to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running
>> 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.
>>
>>  I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working
>> at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
>>
>>  I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other,
>> at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of
>> site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in
>> the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees
>> deep. Each is along a creek.
>>
>>  Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something
>> configured wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[cstanners--- via Af]

Ok, so unless your tx power at the tower is set low or there's a problem in the 
signal chain, it's likely a LOS issue.

What does RM say for estimated signal there (assuming you have correct tree 
height / density settings in the program)?

-Original Message-
From: Alan West via Af 
Sender: "Af" 
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 22:13:50 
To: af@afmug.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

Yes, I double-checked the very same two units I was trying. They both connected 
closer in to the tower. 

 On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:11 PM, Colin Stanners via Af 
 wrote:
   

 On any new platform, go close to the tower, connect and run rests, once that's 
confirmed good you can worry about farther shots.On Dec 23, 2014 3:49 PM, "Alan 
West via Af"  wrote:

Hello all.
I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it 
from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at 
about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. 
I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a 
customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 
miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site 
(neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. 
They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is 
along a creek.
Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured 
wrong.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Brian Sullivan via Af]

Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz?
I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but 
certainly not 5+.

Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to?

On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:


Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles?  Got -67 and some very 
nice bandwidth bumps.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, "Alan West via Af" > wrote:


Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems
dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have
the upper band from 5740-58xx checked.

Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s?




On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af
mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:


Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the
frequencies/sizes you've enabled.
I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're
deployed in. Saves time in scanning.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

Hello all.

I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some
customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have
a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is
2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.

I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of
them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect,
but working.

I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the
other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland,
however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above).
There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are
not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each
is along a creek.

Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have
something configured wrong.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Alan West via Af]

Yes, I double-checked the very same two units I was trying. They both connected 
closer in to the tower. 

 On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:11 PM, Colin Stanners via Af 
 wrote:
   

 On any new platform, go close to the tower, connect and run rests, once that's 
confirmed good you can worry about farther shots.On Dec 23, 2014 3:49 PM, "Alan 
West via Af"  wrote:

Hello all.
I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it 
from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at 
about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. 
I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a 
customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 
miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site 
(neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. 
They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is 
along a creek.
Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured 
wrong.


   

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Colin Stanners via Af]

On any new platform, go close to the tower, connect and run rests, once
that's confirmed good you can worry about farther shots.
On Dec 23, 2014 3:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to
> it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running
> 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.
>
> I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at
> a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
>
> I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at
> 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of
> site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in
> the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees
> deep. Each is along a creek.
>
> Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured
> wrong.
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Josh Luthman via Af]

Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles?  Got -67 and some very nice
bandwidth bumps.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:

> Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems
> dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper
> band from 5740-58xx checked.
>
> Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s?
>
>
>
>
>   On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af 
> wrote:
>
>
> Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the
> frequencies/sizes you've enabled.
> I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in.
> Saves time in scanning.
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to
> it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running
> 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.
>
> I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at
> a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
>
> I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at
> 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of
> site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in
> the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees
> deep. Each is along a creek.
>
> Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured
> wrong.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[David via Af]

I could see where Farmland and some tree for 5.7Ghz could present a very 
real world issue. 900Mhz would be great for that or possibly 2.4Ghz


On 12/23/2014 03:49 PM, Alan West via Af wrote:

Hello all.

I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over 
to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector 
running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.


I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them 
working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.


I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, 
at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not 
line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small 
tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only 
one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek.


Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something 
configured wrong.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Alan West via Af]

Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems dreadfully 
slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper band from 
5740-58xx checked.
Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s?

 

 On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af  
wrote:
   

 Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the 
frequencies/sizes you've enabled.I would suggest limiting the frequencies to 
the band you're deployed in.  Saves time in scanning.Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:

Hello all.
I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it 
from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at 
about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. 
I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a 
customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 
miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site 
(neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. 
They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is 
along a creek.
Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured 
wrong.


   

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Josh Luthman via Af]

Go to monitor wireless.  That's all the APs it can see with the
frequencies/sizes you've enabled.

I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in.
Saves time in scanning.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, "Alan West via Af"  wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to
> it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running
> 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel.
>
> I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at
> a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
>
> I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at
> 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of
> site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in
> the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees
> deep. Each is along a creek.
>
> Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured
> wrong.
>

[AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?

[Alan West via Af]

Hello all.
I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it 
from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at 
about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. 
I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a 
customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working.
I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 
miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site 
(neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. 
They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is 
along a creek.
Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured 
wrong.