Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Cool, I was thinking of doing a sweatlodge one of the evenings too... From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 4:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack i want in on this, Ill come to AF for peyote On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to heaven is in the nanoseconds... From: Jason Petrillo via Af Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack Chuck, I didn’t think Mormons drank… J Jason From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into Sony HQ to delete the copy. While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with the rest of the world. They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their calls anymore. So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here. Please move along. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away, somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason under the sun would open that can. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the media industry before. What if Sony is developing a new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases. What better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners. 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater' And then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this way' They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them. Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan. Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as part of the perks? On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to take on that sort of liability. -- From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors. Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot of liability. A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Does your sweatlodge have stadium seating and big screen TV? I assume it is solar powered? From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack Cool, I was thinking of doing a sweatlodge one of the evenings too... From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 4:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack i want in on this, Ill come to AF for peyote On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to heaven is in the nanoseconds... From: Jason Petrillo via Af Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack Chuck, I didn’t think Mormons drank… J Jason From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into Sony HQ to delete the copy. While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with the rest of the world. They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their calls anymore. So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here. Please move along. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away, somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason under the sun would open that can. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the media industry before. What if Sony is developing a new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases. What better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners. 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater' And then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this way' They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them. Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan. Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as part of the perks? On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to take on that sort of liability. -- From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors. Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot of liability. A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Kinda what I thought...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 20, 2014 3:41 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters.
The demand for the banned movie will be off the charts, because everyone
will want to see what they've been censored from.
Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to
me.
Will take a movie that might have made $100 million up into the
multi-hundred million category.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/20/2014 12:26 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
It's not such a crazy idea anymore
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169
Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release The
Interview after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on
North Korea.
Without theatres, we could not release it in the theatres on Christmas
Day. We had no choice, the statement added.
It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get the
opportunity to do so.
See, New distribution without theater owners, and they can't get upset.
On 12/19/2014 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Wait, Rodman is a Mormon?� I thought he was fined $50K for insulting
Mormons back in the day.
�
I was kind of hoping he would stay over in N. Korea with his buddy Un, the
only person on the planet who thinks of him as a basketball player, not a
washed up buffoon.� But N. Korea is stuck in 1950, so the Worm must seem
like a basketball star from 45 years in the future.� I still can’t
believe that idiot was on the same team with MJ.
�
�
*From:* Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 6:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to
heaven is in the nanoseconds...
�
�
*From:* Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Chuck,
������������� I didn’t think Mormons drank…
�
J
�
�
Jason
�
�
�
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un
and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al
into Sony HQ to delete the copy.� While the worm was attempting to guess
the Sony root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some
files with the rest of� the world.� They are sorry and Kim Jong is not
returning their calls anymore.�� So it is a big mistake, nothing to see
here.� Please move along.�
�
*From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I
come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away,
somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason
under the sun would open that can.
�
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced
that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the
gov't and the media industry before.� What if Sony is developing a
new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases.� What
better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not
anger theater owners.� 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way,
because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater'� And
then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea
who 'Forced them to have to do it this way'� They get to try something
new without having ANYONE upset with them.� Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan.
Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel'
as part of the perks?
On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:
True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to
want to take on that sort of liability.
�
--
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [
af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the
mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired
hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
i want in on this, Ill come to AF for peyote On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to heaven is in the nanoseconds... *From:* Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack Chuck, I didn’t think Mormons drank… J Jason *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into Sony HQ to delete the copy. While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with the rest of the world. They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their calls anymore. So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here. Please move along. *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away, somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason under the sun would open that can. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the media industry before. What if Sony is developing a new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases. What better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners. 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater' And then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this way' They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them. Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan. Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as part of the perks? On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to take on that sort of liability. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors. Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot of liability. A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-353A
From: Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Kinda what I thought...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 20, 2014 3:41 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters.
The demand for the banned movie will be off the charts, because everyone
will want to see what they've been censored from.
Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to me.
Will take a movie that might have made $100 million up into the multi-hundred
million category.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/20/2014 12:26 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
It's not such a crazy idea anymore
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169
Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release The Interview
after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on North Korea.
Without theatres, we could not release it in the theatres on Christmas
Day. We had no choice, the statement added.
It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get the
opportunity to do so.
See, New distribution without theater owners, and they can't get upset.
On 12/19/2014 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Wait, Rodman is a Mormon?� I thought he was fined $50K for insulting
Mormons back in the day.
�
I was kind of hoping he would stay over in N. Korea with his buddy Un,
the only person on the planet who thinks of him as a basketball player, not a
washed up buffoon.� But N. Korea is stuck in 1950, so the Worm must seem like
a basketball star from 45 years in the future.� I still can’t believe that
idiot was on the same team with MJ.
�
�
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to
heaven is in the nanoseconds...
�
�
From: Jason Petrillo via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Chuck,
������������� I didn’t think Mormons drank…
�
J
�
�
Jason
�
�
�
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un
and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into
Sony HQ to delete the copy.� While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony
root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with
the rest of� the world.� They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their
calls anymore.�� So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here.� Please
move along.�
�
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I
come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away,
somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason
under the sun would open that can.
�
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced
that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't
and the media industry before.� What if Sony is developing a new
Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases.� What better way to
get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater
owners.� 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone
threatened you if we show it at your movie theater'� And then, if it
completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them
to have to do it this way'� They get to try something new without having
ANYONE upset with them.� Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan.
Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International
travel' as part of the perks?
On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:
True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to
want to take on that sort of liability.
ï
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Man, though it would suck, this would be cool if the whole plot was to
steal this loot, causing Sony not to release it, knowing demand will be
high, and it will be released.
The plan being once a limited or leaked release happens, the thieves
hackers will release it in the underground (free streaming and p2p like
thepiratebay was) Knowing its going to move through those mediums faster
than The Walking Dead and Game of thrones.
The initial movies they released in the beginning (i dont remember which
ones) were a greenfield deployment with a new malware, only no payload, for
verification of delivery capability or to create a botnet of CC servers.
When this move gets leaked into that medium it will be embedded with the
full payload malware, knowing more than 50% of the US will probably have
downloaded it to at least one device. With the previous greenfield
deployment being CC servers, very little traffic would be heading to and
from the suspect sources, mostly US based traffic.
The Pirate Bay being raided and shut down recently gives them the ability
to get up a Torrent server that they control, maybe part of the conspiracy.
If i were going to make a movie about a digital attack, this would be the
bulk of the movie, Id just have Russel Crowe punch a few people and Id be
rich.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-353A
*From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:42 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Kinda what I thought...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 20, 2014 3:41 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters.
The demand for the banned movie will be off the charts, because
everyone will want to see what they've been censored from.
Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to
me.
Will take a movie that might have made $100 million up into the
multi-hundred million category.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/20/2014 12:26 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
It's not such a crazy idea anymore
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169
Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release The
Interview after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on
North Korea.
Without theatres, we could not release it in the theatres on Christmas
Day. We had no choice, the statement added.
It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get
the opportunity to do so.
See, New distribution without theater owners, and they can't get upset.
On 12/19/2014 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Wait, Rodman is a Mormon?� I thought he was fined $50K for insulting
Mormons back in the day.
�
I was kind of hoping he would stay over in N. Korea with his buddy Un,
the only person on the planet who thinks of him as a basketball player, not
a washed up buffoon.� But N. Korea is stuck in 1950, so the Worm must
seem like a basketball star from 45 years in the future.� I still can’t
believe that idiot was on the same team with MJ.
�
�
*From:* Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 6:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to
heaven is in the nanoseconds...
�
�
*From:* Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Chuck,
������������� I didn’t think Mormons drank…
�
J
�
�
Jason
�
�
�
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un
and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al
into Sony HQ to delete the copy.� While the worm was attempting to guess
the Sony root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some
files with the rest of� the world.� They are sorry and Kim Jong is not
returning their calls anymore.�� So it is a big mistake, nothing to see
here.� Please move along.�
�
*From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I
come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away,
somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
I can't imagine why they wouldn't release that way... what are they going to
do, threaten to blow up a Redbox? I suspect it will do extremely well after all
this publicity...
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Kinda what I thought...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 20, 2014 3:41 PM, Bill Prince via Af
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters.
The demand for the banned movie will be off the charts, because everyone will
want to see what they've been censored from.
Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to me.
Will take a movie that might have made $100 million up into the multi-hundred
million category.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/20/2014 12:26 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
It's not such a crazy idea anymore
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169
Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release The Interview
after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on North Korea.
Without theatres, we could not release it in the theatres on Christmas Day. We
had no choice, the statement added.
It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get the
opportunity to do so.
See, New distribution without theater owners, and they can't get upset.
On 12/19/2014 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Wait, Rodman is a Mormon?� I thought he was fined $50K for insulting Mormons
back in the day.
�
I was kind of hoping he would stay over in N. Korea with his buddy Un, the only
person on the planet who thinks of him as a basketball player, not a washed up
buffoon.� But N. Korea is stuck in 1950, so the Worm must seem like a
basketball star from 45 years in the future.� I still can’t believe that
idiot was on the same team with MJ.
�
�
From: Chuck McCown via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:23 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to heaven is
in the nanoseconds...
�
�
From: Jason Petrillo via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Chuck,
������������� I didn’t think Mormons drank…
�
:)
�
�
Jason
�
�
�
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un and
then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into
Sony HQ to delete the copy.� While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony
root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with
the rest of� the world.� They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their
calls anymore.�� So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here.� Please
move along.�
�
From: That One Guy via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I come up
with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away, somebody will
end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason under the sun
would open that can.
�
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK
is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the
media industry before.� What if Sony is developing a new Distribution
system to bypass theaters with new releases.� What better way to get it
started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners.�
'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you
if we show it at your movie theater'� And then, if it completely fails, they
can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this
way'� They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them.�
Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan.
Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as
part of the perks?
On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:
True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to
take on that sort of liability.
�
From: Af [af-boun
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Hey, that sounds like an awesome movie! of course, Sony might send some hitmen
after or something...
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Man, though it would suck, this would be cool if the whole plot was to steal
this loot, causing Sony not to release it, knowing demand will be high, and it
will be released.
The plan being once a limited or leaked release happens, the thieves hackers
will release it in the underground (free streaming and p2p like thepiratebay
was) Knowing its going to move through those mediums faster than The Walking
Dead and Game of thrones.
The initial movies they released in the beginning (i dont remember which ones)
were a greenfield deployment with a new malware, only no payload, for
verification of delivery capability or to create a botnet of CC servers.
When this move gets leaked into that medium it will be embedded with the full
payload malware, knowing more than 50% of the US will probably have downloaded
it to at least one device. With the previous greenfield deployment being CC
servers, very little traffic would be heading to and from the suspect sources,
mostly US based traffic.
The Pirate Bay being raided and shut down recently gives them the ability to
get up a Torrent server that they control, maybe part of the conspiracy.
If i were going to make a movie about a digital attack, this would be the bulk
of the movie, Id just have Russel Crowe punch a few people and Id be rich.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-353A
From: Josh Luthman via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:42 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Kinda what I thought...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 20, 2014 3:41 PM, Bill Prince via Af
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters.
The demand for the banned movie will be off the charts, because everyone will
want to see what they've been censored from.
Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to me.
Will take a movie that might have made $100 million up into the multi-hundred
million category.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/20/2014 12:26 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
It's not such a crazy idea anymore
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169
Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release The Interview
after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on North Korea.
Without theatres, we could not release it in the theatres on Christmas Day. We
had no choice, the statement added.
It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get the
opportunity to do so.
See, New distribution without theater owners, and they can't get upset.
On 12/19/2014 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Wait, Rodman is a Mormon?� I thought he was fined $50K for insulting Mormons
back in the day.
�
I was kind of hoping he would stay over in N. Korea with his buddy Un, the only
person on the planet who thinks of him as a basketball player, not a washed up
buffoon.� But N. Korea is stuck in 1950, so the Worm must seem like a
basketball star from 45 years in the future.� I still can’t believe that
idiot was on the same team with MJ.
�
�
From: Chuck McCown via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:23 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to heaven is
in the nanoseconds...
�
�
From: Jason Petrillo via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Chuck,
������������� I didn’t think Mormons drank…
�
:)
�
�
Jason
�
�
�
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un and
then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into
Sony HQ to delete the copy.� While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony
root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with
the rest of� the world.� They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their
calls anymore.�� So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here.� Please
move along.�
�
From: That One Guy
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
You can watch the Taiwanese animated news version now:
https://www.youtube.com/user/NMAWorldEdition
Even after all the publicity, I wouldn’t want to watch this movie. Seth Rogen
reminds me too much of the teenage kids who spend all their time playing online
games and telling their parents to call and complain about the Internet being
slow.
From: Mathew Howard via Af
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
I can't imagine why they wouldn't release that way... what are they going to
do, threaten to blow up a Redbox? I suspect it will do extremely well after all
this publicity...
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Kinda what I thought...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 20, 2014 3:41 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters.
The demand for the banned movie will be off the charts, because everyone
will want to see what they've been censored from.
Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to me.
Will take a movie that might have made $100 million up into the multi-hundred
million category.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/20/2014 12:26 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
It's not such a crazy idea anymore
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169
Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release The Interview
after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on North Korea.
Without theatres, we could not release it in the theatres on Christmas
Day. We had no choice, the statement added.
It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get the
opportunity to do so.
See, New distribution without theater owners, and they can't get upset.
On 12/19/2014 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Wait, Rodman is a Mormon?� I thought he was fined $50K for insulting
Mormons back in the day.
�
I was kind of hoping he would stay over in N. Korea with his buddy Un,
the only person on the planet who thinks of him as a basketball player, not a
washed up buffoon.� But N. Korea is stuck in 1950, so the Worm must seem like
a basketball star from 45 years in the future.� I still can’t believe that
idiot was on the same team with MJ.
�
�
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to
heaven is in the nanoseconds...
�
�
From: Jason Petrillo via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
Chuck,
������������� I didn’t think Mormons drank…
�
J
�
�
Jason
�
�
�
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un
and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into
Sony HQ to delete the copy.� While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony
root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with
the rest of� the world.� They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their
calls anymore.�� So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here.� Please
move along.�
�
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
�
The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I
come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away,
somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason
under the sun would open that can.
�
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced
that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't
and the media industry before.� What if Sony is developing a new
Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases.� What better way to
get it started than to have to use it in a way that does
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
I think you’re hearing hoofbeats and thinking zebras. From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the media industry before. What if Sony is developing a new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases. What better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners. 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater' And then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this way' They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them. Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan. Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as part of the perks? On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to take on that sort of liability. -- From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors. Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot of liability. A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away, somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason under the sun would open that can. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the media industry before. What if Sony is developing a new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases. What better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners. 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater' And then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this way' They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them. Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan. Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as part of the perks? On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to take on that sort of liability. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors. Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot of liability. A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Interesting theory. But...
I feel that internet access in NK is so poor, that it almost defies
logic that someone from inside NK actually pulled this off. I heard one
white-hat guy saying there is only one pipe in; and it's not that big of
a pipe to begin with.
I think there is probably someone on the inside of Sony (who may have
some sort of Korean ties) that was offended by the movie, and did
something on the down-low to enable Korean buddies to perpetrate this
hack.
I'm also offended that the media is making this some kind of US
government issue. The government was not a target of this hack; Sony
was. In case anyone didn't notice, I think that Sony is still a
Japanese company.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/19/2014 10:28 AM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just
announced that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no
collusion between the gov't and the media industry before. What if
Sony is developing a new Distribution system to bypass theaters with
new releases. What better way to get it started than to have to use
it in a way that does not anger theater owners. 'Oh, we have to
distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you if we
show it at your movie theater' And then, if it completely fails, they
can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do
it this way' They get to try something new without having ANYONE
upset with them. Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan.
Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International
travel' as part of the perks?
On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:
True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to
want to take on that sort of liability.
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af
[af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the
mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for
hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors.
Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data,
imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic
with a 9mm, thats alot of liability.
A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on
DMCA suits
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten
that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more
credible.
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers
though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint...
On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got
some credible threat to act like this.
Tushar
On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af
af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote:
On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as
Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The
Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a
terrorist?
On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af
af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote:
I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the
radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen
(multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update
I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi
connection in china somewhere. How were they able to
transfer that much data in a short enough time that it
wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a
blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount
of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore,
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
By one pipe in, I think that means N. Korea relies on China for its connection
to the Internet. But that doesn’t mean the whole country has one T1 line to
the Internet. The average person may not have high speed Internet, but the
military probably does, including its computer school and large cyberwarfare
unit.
Also there are reports N. Korea has “cyberwarriors” in other countries at its
beck and call, kind of like sleeper cells. Also that this was a practice run
for attacks against S. Korean and US infrastructure like power plants.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/19/us-sony-cybersecurity-northkorea-idUSKBN0JX0JW20141219
From: Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Interesting theory.� But...
I feel that internet access in NK is so poor, that it almost defies logic that
someone from inside NK actually pulled this off.� I heard one white-hat guy
saying there is only one pipe in; and it's not that big of a pipe to begin with.
I think there is probably someone on the inside of Sony (who may have some
sort of Korean ties) that was offended by the movie, and did something on the
down-low to enable Korean buddies to perpetrate this hack.
I'm also offended that the media is making this some kind of US government
issue.� The government was not a target of this hack; Sony was.� In case
anyone didn't notice, I think that Sony is still a Japanese company.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/19/2014 10:28 AM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that
NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and
the media industry before.� What if Sony is developing a new Distribution
system to bypass theaters with new releases.� What better way to get it
started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners.�
'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you
if we show it at your movie theater'� And then, if it completely fails, they
can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this
way'� They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them.�
Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan.
Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as
part of the perks?
On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:
True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want
to take on that sort of liability.
�
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af
[af@afmug.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the
mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired
hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors.
Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data,
imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm,
thats alot of liability.
A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA
suits
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that...
I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible.
�
--
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af
[af@afmug.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not
the most threatening demographic from that standpoint...
On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some
credible threat to act like this.
Tushar
On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony
capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview.� Isn't that
tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist?
On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but
it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of
it).� The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi
connection in china somewhere.� How were they able to transfer that much data
in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Or they outsourced to name your disgruntled anti-corp, anti-capitalist
hacker group out there.
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
By one pipe in, I think that means N. Korea relies on China for its
connection to the Internet. But that doesn’t mean the whole country has
one T1 line to the Internet. The average person may not have high speed
Internet, but the military probably does, including its computer school and
large cyberwarfare unit.
Also there are reports N. Korea has “cyberwarriors” in other countries at
its beck and call, kind of like sleeper cells. Also that this was a
practice run for attacks against S. Korean and US infrastructure like power
plants.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/19/us-sony-cybersecurity-northkorea-idUSKBN0JX0JW20141219
*From:* Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 1:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Interesting theory.� But...
I feel that internet access in NK is so poor, that it almost defies logic
that someone from inside NK actually pulled this off.� I heard one
white-hat guy saying there is only one pipe in; and it's not that big of a
pipe to begin with.
I think there is probably someone on the inside of Sony (who may have
some sort of Korean ties) that was offended by the movie, and did something
on the down-low to enable Korean buddies to perpetrate this hack.
I'm also offended that the media is making this some kind of US government
issue.� The government was not a target of this hack; Sony was.� In
case anyone didn't notice, I think that Sony is still a Japanese company.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/19/2014 10:28 AM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:
Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced
that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the
gov't and the media industry before.� What if Sony is developing a
new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases.� What
better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not
anger theater owners.� 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way,
because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater'� And
then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea
who 'Forced them to have to do it this way'� They get to try something
new without having ANYONE upset with them.� Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan.
Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel'
as part of the perks?
On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:
True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to
want to take on that sort of liability.
�
--
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [
af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the
mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired
hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors.
Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data,
imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a
9mm, thats alot of liability.
A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA
suits
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten
that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible.
�
--
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [
af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though?
Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint...
On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some
credible threat to act like this.
Tushar
On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote:
On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony
capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview.� Isn't that
tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist?
On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com
http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote:
I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it
sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of
it).� The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel
Wifi connection in china somewhere.� How were they able to transfer
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
the death scene was leaked at least On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I agree with Mike. No balls running this place. I would say fk you I am doing a sequel now just to piss you off and shove it up your a$$ Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Agreed. Buncha pussies and not the good kind. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
On 12/19/14, 12:13, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Did Malaysia get all upset about Zoolander? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdS8mYtEh4 Zoolander wasn't shown in Malaysia since their their censorship board deemed it unsuitable. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Chuck, I didn’t think Mormons drank… :) Jason From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into Sony HQ to delete the copy. While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with the rest of the world. They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their calls anymore. So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here. Please move along. From: That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away, somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason under the sun would open that can. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the media industry before. What if Sony is developing a new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases. What better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners. 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater' And then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this way' They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them. Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan. Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as part of the perks? On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to take on that sort of liability. _ From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors. Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot of liability. A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible. _ From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means
[AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Call it 5 gigs and you left your laptop on overnight, wouldn't be that hard would it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
The number of movies alone has to be huge in data size, even if they were stored in some proprietary compressed format its got to be way more than a handful of GB. Its doubtful Sony will elaborate on the exact number and its certain the hackers will exaggerate the number. Truth be told, it was me with my mad hAcK SkLZ that did it. On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Call it 5 gigs and you left your laptop on overnight, wouldn't be that hard would it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
That's what I was thinking. When was the last time you were on a Hotel WIFI stable enough to transfer that kind of data? On 12/17/2014 3:33 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: The number of movies alone has to be huge in data size, even if they were stored in some proprietary compressed format its got to be way more than a handful of GB. Its doubtful Sony will elaborate on the exact number and its certain the hackers will exaggerate the number. Truth be told, it was me with my mad hAcK SkLZ that did it. On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Call it 5 gigs and you left your laptop on overnight, wouldn't be that hard would it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Agreed. Buncha pussies and not the good kind. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Seth Rogen at least hasnt seemed to punk out yet. Sony has to let al sharpton make the decision on when theyre going to end up releasing the movie. Hopefully rogen pulls some underhandedness and lets a screener slip out his back door On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Agreed. Buncha pussies and not the good kind. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Agreed. Grow a pair. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors. Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot of liability. A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com http://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to take on that sort of liability. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors. Sony already has 2 lawsuits going, for not protecting employee data, imagine if something did happen at a theater, even a random lunatic with a 9mm, thats alot of liability. A leak of the movie would be great, they can make their money on DMCA suits On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It seems a little odd that a bunch of hackers would even threaten that... I would think a more hacker-ish threat would be more credible. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jason McKemie via Af [af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:19 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack How much of a physical violence threat are a bunch of hackers though? Not the most threatening demographic from that standpoint... On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I was thinking on same line but I am sure they must have got some credible threat to act like this. Tushar On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.comhttp://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to these dumbasses in regards to The Interview. Isn't that tantamount to negotiating with a terrorist? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.comhttp://UrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
