Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Glen Waldrop]

I know of at least two 50ft Rohn 25G that have been in the air without bracket 
or guys for 36+ years within 5 miles of here.

They survived Hurricane Frederick, Ivan, Katrina...

That being said, I’ve got a 75ft that is short guyed.

Personally if it has anything on it bigger than a Nanostation or an SXT I’d 
have it bracketed or at least short guys.



From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

http://www.rohnnet.com/rohn-g-series-self-supporting-tower




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:36:42 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for 
un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard is 
40 feet. Is this true?

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Jaime Solorza]

humm?  are you suggesting mating two different model towers?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Somone pointed out to me that the top sections of an SSV are ALMOST
> straight, not quite.  Close enough for government work though.
>
> -Original Message- From: Daniel White
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:40 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
>
> What about Rohn 55, 65, etc.  You can even get creative and use the top
> 50ft of a self supporter where it is straight so the legs are much further
> apart. I like those towers.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Daniel White
> afmu...@gmail.com
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn: Twitter
>
> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
>>
>> Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over
>> 20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.
>>
>> Bill Prince wrote:
>> > Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny
>> > omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet
>> > un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
>> >
>> > bp
>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >
>> > On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> >> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
>> >> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard
>> >> is 40 feet. Is this true?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Eric Kuhnke]

I think he's talking about mounting radios directly on the tower legs,
using the radio's mount built in elevation adjustment, rather than a
standoff mount which is normally needed on a tapering self supporting tower.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> humm?  are you suggesting mating two different model towers?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Somone pointed out to me that the top sections of an SSV are ALMOST
>> straight, not quite.  Close enough for government work though.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Daniel White
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:40 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
>>
>> What about Rohn 55, 65, etc.  You can even get creative and use the top
>> 50ft of a self supporter where it is straight so the legs are much further
>> apart. I like those towers.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Daniel White
>> afmu...@gmail.com
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> Social: LinkedIn: Twitter
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
>>>
>>> Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over
>>> 20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.
>>>
>>> Bill Prince wrote:
>>> > Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny
>>> > omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet
>>> > un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
>>> >
>>> > bp
>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >
>>> > On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>> >> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
>>> >> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard
>>> >> is 40 feet. Is this true?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Jaime Solorza]

oh okay ...i was going to say that is a Bozo no no

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think he's talking about mounting radios directly on the tower legs,
> using the radio's mount built in elevation adjustment, rather than a
> standoff mount which is normally needed on a tapering self supporting tower.
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> humm?  are you suggesting mating two different model towers?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Somone pointed out to me that the top sections of an SSV are ALMOST
>>> straight, not quite.  Close enough for government work though.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Daniel White
>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:40 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
>>>
>>> What about Rohn 55, 65, etc.  You can even get creative and use the top
>>> 50ft of a self supporter where it is straight so the legs are much further
>>> apart. I like those towers.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>> afmu...@gmail.com
>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>> Skype: danieldwhite
>>> Social: LinkedIn: Twitter
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over
>>>> 20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Prince wrote:
>>>> > Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny
>>>> > omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet
>>>> > un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
>>>> >
>>>> > bp
>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >
>>>> > On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>> >> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
>>>> >> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard
>>>> >> is 40 feet. Is this true?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[George Skorup]

The top two sections on our office SSV are 5N and 4N. I think it's 
something like 8-10" of slope over that 40 feet. The 6, 7 and 8N 
sections are obviously a lot different.


What's funny is that the top two sections weigh more than the bottom 
three because the tops are solid rod legs and braces. They had all 100 
feet of that thing stacked in like 35 minutes. Real tower constructors 
with an experienced crane operator know how to get shit done son!


I also specifically requested that we did not do the skinny 3, 2, and 1W 
SSV sections on top and opted for the larger 8N base. Good thing too 
because I think it would've folded over in the 165+ MPH tornado. In 
fact, I'm sure it would have.


On 1/4/2016 5:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Just saying I thought on a Rohn SSV once you got to the upper sections 
1-5 they were straight and all the same face width, but actually 
there’s a bit of taper to them.

*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 4:31 PM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
oh okay ...i was going to say that is a Bozo no no
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com 
<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I think he's talking about mounting radios directly on the tower
legs, using the radio's mount built in elevation adjustment,
rather than a standoff mount which is normally needed on a
tapering self supporting tower.
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

humm?  are you suggesting mating two different model towers?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Somone pointed out to me that the top sections of an SSV
are ALMOST straight, not quite.  Close enough for
government work though.

-Original Message- From: Daniel White
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

What about Rohn 55, 65, etc. You can even get creative and
use the top 50ft of a self supporter where it is straight
so the legs are much further apart. I like those towers.

Thank you,

Daniel White
afmu...@gmail.com <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com>
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590>
Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn: Twitter

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a
building to get over
20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.

Bill Prince wrote:
> Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything
more than a skinny
> omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no
more than 20 feet
> un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> Just for clarification, what are the maximum
heights, if any, for
>> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The
rumor I've heard
>> is 40 feet. Is this true?
>
>
>



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Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Ken Hohhof]

I want one of those 4-sided towers like you see along the tollway.  The ones 
that look like there should be a fire lookout tower at the top.

Or maybe a Sabre S4R.
https://www.facebook.com/Sabreindustries/photos/pb.240001369446373.-220752.1451953683./255490917897418/?type=3
https://www.facebook.com/Sabreindustries/photos/pb.240001369446373.-220752.1451953803./255490931230750/?type=3



From: George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 5:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

The top two sections on our office SSV are 5N and 4N. I think it's something 
like 8-10" of slope over that 40 feet. The 6, 7 and 8N sections are obviously a 
lot different.

What's funny is that the top two sections weigh more than the bottom three 
because the tops are solid rod legs and braces. They had all 100 feet of that 
thing stacked in like 35 minutes. Real tower constructors with an experienced 
crane operator know how to get shit done son!

I also specifically requested that we did not do the skinny 3, 2, and 1W SSV 
sections on top and opted for the larger 8N base. Good thing too because I 
think it would've folded over in the 165+ MPH tornado. In fact, I'm sure it 
would have.


On 1/4/2016 5:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  Just saying I thought on a Rohn SSV once you got to the upper sections 1-5 
they were straight and all the same face width, but actually there’s a bit of 
taper to them.

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 4:31 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

  oh okay ...i was going to say that is a Bozo no no

  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think he's talking about mounting radios directly on the tower legs, 
using the radio's mount built in elevation adjustment, rather than a standoff 
mount which is normally needed on a tapering self supporting tower.


On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  humm?  are you suggesting mating two different model towers?   


  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

Somone pointed out to me that the top sections of an SSV are ALMOST 
straight, not quite.  Close enough for government work though.

-Original Message- From: Daniel White
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

What about Rohn 55, 65, etc.  You can even get creative and use the top 
50ft of a self supporter where it is straight so the legs are much further 
apart. I like those towers.

Thank you,

Daniel White
afmu...@gmail.com
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn: Twitter


  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
  Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower


  Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over
  20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.

  Bill Prince wrote:
  > Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny
  > omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 
feet
  > un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
  >
  > bp
  > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
  >
  > On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
  >> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
  >> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard
  >> is 40 feet. Is this true?
  >
  >
  >




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Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Daniel White]

What about Rohn 55, 65, etc.  You can even get creative and use the top 50ft of 
a self supporter where it is straight so the legs are much further apart.  I 
like those towers.

Thank you,

Daniel White
afmu...@gmail.com
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn: Twitter

> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
>
> Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over
> 20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.
>
> Bill Prince wrote:
> > Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny
> > omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet
> > un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> >> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
> >> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard
> >> is 40 feet. Is this true?
> >
> >
> >


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Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Ken Hohhof]

Somone pointed out to me that the top sections of an SSV are ALMOST 
straight, not quite.  Close enough for government work though.


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel White

Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

What about Rohn 55, 65, etc.  You can even get creative and use the top 50ft 
of a self supporter where it is straight so the legs are much further apart. 
I like those towers.


Thank you,

Daniel White
afmu...@gmail.com
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn: Twitter


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over
20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.

Bill Prince wrote:
> Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny
> omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet
> un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
>> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard
>> is 40 feet. Is this true?
>
>
>



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Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Chuck McCown]

I never went to 40 unless it was against a building with brackets. 
Otherwise 20 feet was my unguyed limit.
I do think Rohn said you could do 40 but I don't know how much wind loading 
area  you could add.


-Original Message- 
From: Jay Weekley

Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard is
40 feet. Is this true? 

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Adam Moffett]

Maybe 40' with nothing on it.  Or 40' bracketed.

I'm pretty sure Rohn has the guidelines on their website.  I seem to 
think it's in either the construction drawings or brochure for the type 
of tower.




On 1/4/2016 10:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


40 foot would be high on 25G..

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 4, 2016 10:36 AM, "Jay Weekley" > wrote:


Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've
heard is 40 feet. Is this true?

[AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Jay Weekley]

Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for 
un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard is 
40 feet. Is this true?

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Josh Luthman]

40 foot would be high on 25G..

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 4, 2016 10:36 AM, "Jay Weekley"  wrote:

> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for un-guyed
> Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard is 40 feet. Is
> this true?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[George Skorup]

Up to 40 feet free-standing for 25G. And 45 feet for 45G. 1.5 and 2.3 sq 
ft max wind loading. Pretty much useless.


6.4 sq ft for 25G at 30 feet. Not bad, but I still wouldn't do free 
standing. I have a 40' 25G bracketed at 16 feet at my house. It has my 
3.6 450 SM on a reflector near the top. It moves quite a bit in the 
wind. I've already had to replace several bolts that worked their way loose.


On 1/4/2016 9:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I never went to 40 unless it was against a building with brackets. 
Otherwise 20 feet was my unguyed limit.
I do think Rohn said you could do 40 but I don't know how much wind 
loading area  you could add.


-Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard is
40 feet. Is this true?

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Bill Prince]

Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny 
omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet 
un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.


bp


On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for 
un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard is 
40 feet. Is this true?

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Jaime Solorza]

Use  free standing series from Rohn or Trylonwe saw two model 45
erected side to side with unistrut to join then face to face.   About 80
ft. High with stadium lights and an VHF omni on top.  Looked beefy with a
nice size pad

On Jan 4, 2016 8:36 AM, "Jay Weekley"  wrote:

> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for un-guyed
> Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard is 40 feet. Is
> this true?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Ken Hohhof]

Just saying I thought on a Rohn SSV once you got to the upper sections 1-5 they 
were straight and all the same face width, but actually there’s a bit of taper 
to them.

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 4:31 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

oh okay ...i was going to say that is a Bozo no no

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

  I think he's talking about mounting radios directly on the tower legs, using 
the radio's mount built in elevation adjustment, rather than a standoff mount 
which is normally needed on a tapering self supporting tower.


  On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

humm?  are you suggesting mating two different model towers?   


Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

  Somone pointed out to me that the top sections of an SSV are ALMOST 
straight, not quite.  Close enough for government work though.

  -Original Message- From: Daniel White
  Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:40 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

  What about Rohn 55, 65, etc.  You can even get creative and use the top 
50ft of a self supporter where it is straight so the legs are much further 
apart. I like those towers.

  Thank you,

  Daniel White
  afmu...@gmail.com
  Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
  Skype: danieldwhite
  Social: LinkedIn: Twitter


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower


Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over
20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.

Bill Prince wrote:
> Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny
> omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet
> un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for
>> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard
>> is 40 feet. Is this true?
>
>
>




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Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Jay Weekley]

Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over 
20 feet.  Back to the drawing board.


Bill Prince wrote:
Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny 
omni on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet 
un-guyed. 45G; probably 30'.


bp


On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for 
un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard 
is 40 feet. Is this true?

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We have very high winds here at times. Honestly I'd run this by Gary .

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- Reply message -
From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
To: <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
Date: Mon, Jan 4, 2016 11:52 AM

Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over 20 feet. 
 Back to the drawing board.

Bill Prince wrote:
> Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny > omni 
> on 25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet > un-guyed. 
> 45G; probably 30'.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for >> 
>> un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard >> is 40 
>> feet. Is this true?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Bill Prince]

We have a 30' 25G unguyed, but it is bracketed to a building at ~~ 11'. 
That leaves 19' above the bracket.


It also has a 900 MHz "surfboard" from MTI at the top. When we get high 
winds around here, I'm glad that we did not go higher.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/4/2016 10:24 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


We have very high winds here at times. Honestly I'd run this by Gary .

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
To: <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower
Date: Mon, Jan 4, 2016 11:52 AM

Yeah, I forgot about needing to be bracketed to a building to get over 20 feet. 
 Back to the drawing board.

Bill Prince wrote:
> Depends on the wind loading. If you have anything more than a skinny > omni on 
25G, I would guy anything above 20'. IOW, no more than 20 feet > un-guyed. 45G; 
probably 30'.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/4/2016 7:36 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for >> un-guyed Rohn 
25 and 45 style tower sections?  The rumor I've heard >> is 40 feet. Is this true?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower

[Mike Hammett]

http://www.rohnnet.com/rohn-g-series-self-supporting-tower 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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- Original Message -

From: "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:36:42 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Un-guyed tower 

Just for clarification, what are the maximum heights, if any, for 
un-guyed Rohn 25 and 45 style tower sections? The rumor I've heard is 
40 feet. Is this true?