subject:"\[AFMUG\] battery tester"

Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-19 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

I actually had an older model of this sitting on the shelf. I gave it
a try on an old 32-bit laptop (the drivers wouldn't work for my old
model on 64-bit). Not bad, but with the big batteries I have it could
take quite some time to test each one.

I was able to run a test on an old 18AH UPS battery 10A without
problem. The battery was low and I only ran it down to 11.5V, so it
only took me about half an hour to test.

On 9/19/2014 7:03 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
I have never used these but have noticed them on the website when
buying other stuff:

http://www.powerwerx.com/batteries-chargers/cba-iv-4-pro-computerized-battery-analyzer-commercial-use.html
*From:* TJ Trout via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2014 2:43 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

Carbon pile battery load tester is what you need.

On Sep 18, 2014 3:07 PM, "Randy Cosby via Af" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

Ah, figured this out. Batteries have been getting down to 20c
around noon, temperature compensation of .12V per degree below
25c, 56.6V is where we top out. Just right.

On 9/18/2014 3:35 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Before anyone mentions it, I know some of these batteries are
being charged too high. I have my charger (Tristar MPPT-60) set
for gel battery voltages, and the combined voltage is supposed to
top out at 56v. It looks like we're getting a little higher than
that, I need to figure out why.

On 9/18/2014 3:14 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Getting back on topic (and trying to avoid double-spaces)...

I have two strings of four GEL batteries, all of them the same
age. They are all being charged by the same solar
panels/controller. Positive lead is connected to battery 1,
negative to battery 4. Load is connected the same way. I am now
monitoring each battery separately with a pair of sitemonitor
4-input modules.

One battery I know is bad - 1.1 (bank 1 battery 1). It drops
under 12v at night.

The graphs are puzzling to me. The other batteries I'm not sure
on. Each seems to have a different/profile slope when charging,
but similar (but not identical) slope when discharging. Take a look:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4059343/graff%20voltage%20graps.png

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why we're seeing these
differences?

On 9/18/2014 1:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Telemetry. Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at
night. I have tried to use impedance meters several times at
different companies and cannot get results that predict failures.
If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect
the solar panels and watch the telemetry.
*From:* Randy Cosby via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel
batteries at solar sites? I have batteries from 100AH to
225AH. Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.

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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-19 Thread D. Ryan Spott via Af


Or just use a water heater element:


http://store.mwands.com/images/products/secondary/12v_300w_element_02.jpg
http://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Water_Heater_Element_Ohms_AOSs.jpg


ryan


On 9/19/14 7:39 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

signature
Cheap (free) load resistors can be made from full rolls of 14 gauge wire.
2.5 ohms per 1000 feet.  Get two 1000ï¿½ rolls and you have a 5 ohm 
resistor.  9.8 amps from a 48 volt battery.  I put them in a bucket of 
water to dissipate the heat and keep them from getting heat damage to 
the insulation.

Then you can return the wire after you are done...
*From:* David via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2014 7:04 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
We are able to time of discharge by reviewing graphs from our CTMs 
once AC power has stopped.
Depending on what the overall current draw is which we find by the 
load in watts on each port of the CTM.
Its not 100% but it gives me a good idea about what we should get out 
of a AGM 100ah battery.


On 09/18/2014 02:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Telemetry.ï¿½ Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at 
night.ï¿½ I have tried to use impedance meters several times at 
different companies and cannot get results that predict failures.

ï¿½
If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the 
solar panels and watch the telemetry.ï¿½

ï¿½
*From:* Randy Cosby via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester
ï¿½
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ 
Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking 
amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-19 Thread Chuck McCown via Af

signatureCheap (free) load resistors can be made from full rolls of 14 gauge 
wire.  
2.5 ohms per 1000 feet.  Get two 1000’ rolls and you have a 5 ohm resistor.  
9.8 amps from a 48 volt battery.  I put them in a bucket of water to dissipate 
the heat and keep them from getting heat damage to the insulation.

Then you can return the wire after you are done...

From: David via Af 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 7:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

We are able to time of discharge by reviewing graphs from our CTMs once AC 
power has stopped.
Depending on what the overall current draw is which we find by the load in 
watts on each port of the CTM. 
Its not 100% but it gives me a good idea about what we should get out of a AGM 
100ah battery.


On 09/18/2014 02:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

  Telemetry.ï¿½ Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.ï¿½ I 
have tried to use impedance meters several times at different companies and 
cannot get results that predict failures. 
  ï¿½
  If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the solar 
panels and watch the telemetry.ï¿½ 
  ï¿½
  From: Randy Cosby via Af 
  Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] battery tester
  ï¿½
  Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at 
solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive 
models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-19 Thread David via Af

We are able to time of discharge by reviewing graphs from our CTMs once 
AC power has stopped.
Depending on what the overall current draw is which we find by the load 
in watts on each port of the CTM.
Its not 100% but it gives me a good idea about what we should get out of 
a AGM 100ah battery.


On 09/18/2014 02:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

signature
Telemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  I 
have tried to use impedance meters several times at different 
companies and cannot get results that predict failures.
If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the 
solar panels and watch the telemetry.

*From:* Randy Cosby via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.  Most 
of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, 
pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af

I have never used these but have noticed them on the website when buying other 
stuff:
http://www.powerwerx.com/batteries-chargers/cba-iv-4-pro-computerized-battery-analyzer-commercial-use.html

From: TJ Trout via Af 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

Carbon pile battery load tester is what you need. 

On Sep 18, 2014 3:07 PM, "Randy Cosby via Af"  wrote:

  Ah, figured this out.  Batteries have been getting down to 20c around noon, 
temperature compensation of .12V per degree below 25c, 56.6V is where we top 
out.  Just right.

  On 9/18/2014 3:35 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Before anyone mentions it, I know some of these batteries are being charged 
too high. I have my charger (Tristar MPPT-60) set for gel battery voltages, and 
the combined voltage is supposed to top out at 56v. It looks like we're getting 
a little higher than that, I need to figure out why. 

On 9/18/2014 3:14 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

  Getting back on topic (and trying to avoid double-spaces)...

  I have two strings of four GEL batteries, all of them the same age. They 
are all being charged by the same solar panels/controller. Positive lead is 
connected to battery 1, negative to battery 4. Load is connected the same way. 
I am now monitoring each battery separately with a pair of sitemonitor 4-input 
modules. 

  One battery I know is bad - 1.1 (bank 1 battery 1). It drops under 12v at 
night.

  The graphs are puzzling to me.  The other batteries I'm not sure on. Each 
seems to have a different/profile slope when charging, but similar (but not 
identical) slope when discharging. Take a look:

  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4059343/graff%20voltage%20graps.png

  Anyone care to venture a guess as to why we're seeing these differences?

  On 9/18/2014 1:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Telemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  I 
have tried to use impedance meters several times at different companies and 
cannot get results that predict failures. 

If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the 
solar panels and watch the telemetry.  

From: Randy Cosby via Af 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: [AFMUG] battery tester

Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries 
at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.  Most of the automotive 
models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.

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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-19 Thread Adam Moffett via Af

On the bench I've charged them fully, measured the voltage, then a put a 
known load on them for a set period of time and measured the voltage 
afterward.  Same idea.  Like you saidcouldn't find an appropriate 
tester.



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Telemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  I 
have tried to use impedance meters several times at different 
companies and cannot get results that predict failures.
If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the 
solar panels and watch the telemetry.

*From:* Randy Cosby via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.  Most 
of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, 
pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-19 Thread TJ Trout via Af

Carbon pile battery load tester is what you need.
On Sep 18, 2014 3:07 PM, "Randy Cosby via Af"  wrote:

>  Ah, figured this out.  Batteries have been getting down to 20c around
> noon, temperature compensation of .12V per degree below 25c, 56.6V is where
> we top out.  Just right.
>
>
>
> On 9/18/2014 3:35 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>
> Before anyone mentions it, I know some of these batteries are being
> charged too high. I have my charger (Tristar MPPT-60) set for gel battery
> voltages, and the combined voltage is supposed to top out at 56v. It looks
> like we're getting a little higher than that, I need to figure out why.
>
>
>
>
> On 9/18/2014 3:14 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>
> Getting back on topic (and trying to avoid double-spaces)...
>
> I have two strings of four GEL batteries, all of them the same age. They
> are all being charged by the same solar panels/controller. Positive lead is
> connected to battery 1, negative to battery 4. Load is connected the same
> way. I am now monitoring each battery separately with a pair of sitemonitor
> 4-input modules.
>
> One battery I know is bad - 1.1 (bank 1 battery 1). It drops under 12v at
> night.
>
> The graphs are puzzling to me.  The other batteries I'm not sure on. Each
> seems to have a different/profile slope when charging, but similar (but not
> identical) slope when discharging. Take a look:
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4059343/graff%20voltage%20graps.png
>
> Anyone care to venture a guess as to why we're seeing these differences?
>
>
> On 9/18/2014 1:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
>
>  Telemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  I
> have tried to use impedance meters several times at different companies and
> cannot get results that predict failures.
>
> If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the solar
> panels and watch the telemetry.
>
>  *From:* Randy Cosby via Af 
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester
>
>  Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries
> at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.  Most of the
> automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty
> irrelevant for us.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Ah, figured this out.  Batteries have been getting down to 20c around 
noon, temperature compensation of .12V per degree below 25c, 56.6V is 
where we top out.  Just right.




On 9/18/2014 3:35 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Before anyone mentions it, I know some of these batteries are being 
charged too high. I have my charger (Tristar MPPT-60) set for gel 
battery voltages, and the combined voltage is supposed to top out at 
56v. It looks like we're getting a little higher than that, I need to 
figure out why.





On 9/18/2014 3:14 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Getting back on topic (and trying to avoid double-spaces)...

I have two strings of four GEL batteries, all of them the same age. 
They are all being charged by the same solar panels/controller. 
Positive lead is connected to battery 1, negative to battery 4. Load 
is connected the same way. I am now monitoring each battery 
separately with a pair of sitemonitor 4-input modules.


One battery I know is bad - 1.1 (bank 1 battery 1). It drops under 
12v at night.


The graphs are puzzling to me.  The other batteries I'm not sure on. 
Each seems to have a different/profile slope when charging, but 
similar (but not identical) slope when discharging. Take a look:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4059343/graff%20voltage%20graps.png

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why we're seeing these differences?


On 9/18/2014 1:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

signature
Telemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  
I have tried to use impedance meters several times at different 
companies and cannot get results that predict failures.
If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the 
solar panels and watch the telemetry.

*From:* Randy Cosby via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.  
Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold 
cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Before anyone mentions it, I know some of these batteries are being 
charged too high. I have my charger (Tristar MPPT-60) set for gel 
battery voltages, and the combined voltage is supposed to top out at 
56v. It looks like we're getting a little higher than that, I need to 
figure out why.





On 9/18/2014 3:14 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Getting back on topic (and trying to avoid double-spaces)...

I have two strings of four GEL batteries, all of them the same age. 
They are all being charged by the same solar panels/controller. 
Positive lead is connected to battery 1, negative to battery 4. Load 
is connected the same way. I am now monitoring each battery separately 
with a pair of sitemonitor 4-input modules.


One battery I know is bad - 1.1 (bank 1 battery 1). It drops under 12v 
at night.


The graphs are puzzling to me.  The other batteries I'm not sure on. 
Each seems to have a different/profile slope when charging, but 
similar (but not identical) slope when discharging. Take a look:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4059343/graff%20voltage%20graps.png

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why we're seeing these differences?


On 9/18/2014 1:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

signature
Telemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  
I have tried to use impedance meters several times at different 
companies and cannot get results that predict failures.
If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the 
solar panels and watch the telemetry.

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Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
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Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking 
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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Paul McCall via Af

まあ、少なくともそのこと和食

Paul ☺

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

It doesn’t appear to like double spaces. Apparently takes much longer for the 
message to come through as well. I guess this tells us which side of the 
discussion Paul was on about 2 spaces after a period!

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

Whatï¿½ happensï¿½ ifï¿½ youï¿½ onlyï¿½ useï¿½ doubleï¿½ spaces?

bp
On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces?
On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.
On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting weird 
characters.

bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries.
On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.
On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at 
solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive 
models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.

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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af

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From: Bill Prince via Af 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

Whatï¿½ happensï¿½ ifï¿½ youï¿½ onlyï¿½ useï¿½ doubleï¿½ spaces?

bpOn 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

  Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces? 

  On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

  You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting weird 
characters.

bpOn 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries.

On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:

  Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.
  We use only AGM for our area.

  On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of 
the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty 
irrelevant for us.

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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af


Getting back on topic (and trying to avoid double-spaces)...

I have two strings of four GEL batteries, all of them the same age. They 
are all being charged by the same solar panels/controller. Positive lead 
is connected to battery 1, negative to battery 4. Load is connected the 
same way. I am now monitoring each battery separately with a pair of 
sitemonitor 4-input modules.


One battery I know is bad - 1.1 (bank 1 battery 1). It drops under 12v 
at night.


The graphs are puzzling to me.  The other batteries I'm not sure on. 
Each seems to have a different/profile slope when charging, but similar 
(but not identical) slope when discharging. Take a look:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4059343/graff%20voltage%20graps.png

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why we're seeing these differences?


On 9/18/2014 1:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

signature
Telemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  I 
have tried to use impedance meters several times at different 
companies and cannot get results that predict failures.
If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the 
solar panels and watch the telemetry.

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*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
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of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, 
pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread James Howard via Af

Apparently Randy wins the prize for being the first one to put a double space 
after a punctuation mark. Most of us just use run on sentences or don't use 
punctuation apparently.

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

This didn't use to happen?

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> L O L !
>
> bp
> On 9/18/2014 1:47 PM, James Howard via Af wrote:
>> signature
>>
>> It doesnï¿½t appear to like double spaces. Apparently takes much longer
>> for the message to come through as well. I guess this tells us which
>> side of the discussion Paul was on about 2 spaces after a period!
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] *On Behalf
>> Of *Bill Prince via Af
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
>>
>> Whatï¿½ happensï¿½ ifï¿½ youï¿½ onlyï¿½ useï¿½ doubleï¿½ spaces?
>>
>> bp
>>
>> On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>>
>> Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces?
>>
>> On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>>
>> Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.
>>
>> On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>>
>> You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be
>> inserting weird characters.
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>>
>> Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive
>> type battery testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for
>> something more appropriate for solar batteries.
>>
>> On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
>>
>> Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly
>> depending on what region your in.
>> We use only AGM for our area.
>>
>> On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have a recommended battery tester
>> for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?ï¿½
>> I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most
>> of the automotive models seem to be concerned
>> with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant
>> for us.
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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af


This didn't use to happen?

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On 09/18/2014 12:51 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

L  O  L  !

bp
On 9/18/2014 1:47 PM, James Howard via Af wrote:

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It doesnï¿½t appear to like double spaces. Apparently takes much longer 
for the message to come through as well. I guess this tells us which 
side of the discussion Paul was on about 2 spaces after a period!


*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] *On Behalf 
Of *Bill Prince via Af

*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

Whatï¿½ happensï¿½ ifï¿½ youï¿½ onlyï¿½ useï¿½ doubleï¿½ spaces?

bp

On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces?

On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be
inserting weird characters.


bp

On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive
type battery testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for
something more appropriate for solar batteries.

On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:

Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly
depending on what region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Does anyone have a recommended battery tester
for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?ï¿½
I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most
of the automotive models seem to be concerned
with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant
for us.

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2014-09-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af


L  O  L  !

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*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

Whatï¿½ happensï¿½ ifï¿½ youï¿½ onlyï¿½ useï¿½ doubleï¿½ spaces?

bp

On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces?

On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be
inserting weird characters.


bp

On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive
type battery testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something
more appropriate for solar batteries.

On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:

Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly
depending on what region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Does anyone have a recommended battery tester
for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I
have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of
the automotive models seem to be concerned
with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.

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2014-09-18 Thread James Howard via Af

It doesn't appear to like double spaces. Apparently takes much longer for the 
message to come through as well. I guess this tells us which side of the 
discussion Paul was on about 2 spaces after a period!

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
Prince via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

Whatï¿½ happensï¿½ ifï¿½ youï¿½ onlyï¿½ useï¿½ doubleï¿½ spaces?

bp
On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces?
On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.
On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting weird 
characters.

bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries.
On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.
On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at 
solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive 
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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Ryan Ray via Af

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> On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Bill Prince via Af  wrote:
> 
> Whatï¿½ happensï¿½ ifï¿½ youï¿½ onlyï¿½ useï¿½ doubleï¿½ spaces?
> bp
> On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>> Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces? 
>> 
>>> On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>>> Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.
>>> 
 On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
 You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting weird 
 characters.
 
 bp
 On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
> Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
> testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
> batteries.
> 
>> On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
>> Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your 
>> in.
>> We use only AGM for our area.
>> 
>>> On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
>>> Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries 
>>> at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of the 
>>> automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty 
>>> irrelevant for us.
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af


What  happens  if  you  only  use double  spaces?

bp

On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces?

On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting 
weird characters.


bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for 
solar batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what 
region your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af


Test  .  Double  Space.

(thunderbird 31.1.1)

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On 09/18/2014 12:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Weird, Does this just happen on doubleï¿½ spaces?

On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting 
weird characters.


bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for 
solar batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what 
region your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af

Looks like putting a period at the end of a sentence gets some creative 
characters. Huh?


bp

On 9/18/2014 1:21 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting 
weird characters.


bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af


Weird, Does this just happen on double  spaces?

On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Nope, PC -ï¿½ Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting 
weird characters.


bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af


Nope, PC -  Thunderbird.

On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
You must be on a Mac.ï¿½ Those things always seem to be inserting 
weird characters.


bp
On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.

Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af

You must be on a Mac.  Those things always seem to be inserting weird 
characters.


bp

On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Eric Rogers via Af

And hold it over a flame...

 

Eric

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+ecrogers=precisionds@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

 

Is this where I rub lemon juice on my monitor?

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On 09/18/2014 11:37 AM, James Howard via Af wrote:

Itï¿½s a message! ï¿½In code!

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

ï¿½

I'm very intrigued by these unusual characters I'm seeing in Randy's 
emails.

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On 09/18/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type 
battery testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
batteries.

On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:

Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on 
what region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Does anyone have a recommended battery tester 
for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking 
amps, pretty irrelevant for us.





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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Chuck McCown via Af

signatureTelemetry.  Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night.  I 
have tried to use impedance meters several times at different companies and 
cannot get results that predict failures. 

If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the solar 
panels and watch the telemetry.  

From: Randy Cosby via Af 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] battery tester

Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at 
solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.  Most of the automotive 
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Is this where I rub lemon juice on my monitor?

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Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for
solar batteries.

On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:

Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what
region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:

Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and
Gel batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from
100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to
be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant
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Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.
On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at 
solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive 
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2014-09-18 Thread Paul McCall via Af

They are part of the Taliban language set I think

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On 09/18/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries.
On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.
On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at 
solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive 
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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af


I'm very intrigued by these unusual characters I'm seeing in Randy's emails.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/18/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.ï¿½ I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."ï¿½ï¿½ I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar 
batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 
225AH.ï¿½ Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with 
cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Sorry if I wasn't clear.  I meant the "automotive type battery 
testers."   I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries.


On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote:
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region 
your in.

We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?ï¿½ I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.ï¿½ 
Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking 
amps, pretty irrelevant for us.




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Re: [AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread David via Af


Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in.
We use only AGM for our area.

On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel 
batteries at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH. Most 
of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, 
pretty irrelevant for us.




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[AFMUG] battery tester

2014-09-18 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries 
at solar sites?  I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH. Most of the 
automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty 
irrelevant for us.




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