Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP bug?
Yep Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 28, 2016 1:22 PM, "Mathew Howard"wrote: > Did they have new stickers over the originals (like if the part number had > been changed)? > > We got some that were apparently originally the non-US version and that > were re-programmed to be Force 110 PTP's, and at least one of them did > that. Some others stayed unlocked, but I was careful to use them where they > aren't likely to go over 10 SM's, just in case they decide to lock > themselves someday. > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> I have a couple of units that I hand wrote as Force 110 PTP. This is the >> same thing as the 5 GHz AP lite. >> >> I log into them with 2.3.4 and they say they can do 60 registrations. I >> change it to 120 and it accepts that. I update to 2.6.1 and then I'm >> limited to 10 registrations. >> >> Update before you deploy... >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP bug?
Did they have new stickers over the originals (like if the part number had been changed)? We got some that were apparently originally the non-US version and that were re-programmed to be Force 110 PTP's, and at least one of them did that. Some others stayed unlocked, but I was careful to use them where they aren't likely to go over 10 SM's, just in case they decide to lock themselves someday. On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Josh Luthmanwrote: > I have a couple of units that I hand wrote as Force 110 PTP. This is the > same thing as the 5 GHz AP lite. > > I log into them with 2.3.4 and they say they can do 60 registrations. I > change it to 120 and it accepts that. I update to 2.6.1 and then I'm > limited to 10 registrations. > > Update before you deploy... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
The radio takes its sync source from the built-in GPS receiver or over Ethernet from a CMM or CMM-like device. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 6:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP We will get sync over power too, right? On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
But still so fun... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 2:48:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary. Do I have to put away my pitchfork? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: blockquote Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then... On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Yes!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: blockquote The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: blockquote Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: blockquote Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J ) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse? /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Ah shucks. I'd just gotten it all polished up... bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/16/2015 12:48 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary. Do I have to put away my pitchfork? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then... On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Matt is correct about the latency. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms. But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame size is available. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Any guess on latency when in this mode? On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. ePMP Force 110 - Montagemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
So uh did no one else notice they put the Cambium logo on wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
[AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
It's expected, yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Yes. It's the AP hardware. Just a software tick disabling sync right now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2015 1:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Yup Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: We will get sync over power too, right? On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms. But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame size is available. What is frame size now? On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Any guess on latency when in this mode? On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. ePMP Force 110 - Montagem Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
We'll see. I'll put my pitchfork down.. for now. On 3/16/2015 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Yup Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote: We will get sync over power too, right? On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
it's 5ms now. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms. But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame size is available. What is frame size now? On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Any guess on latency when in this mode? On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. ePMP Force 110 - Montagem Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms. But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame size is available. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Any guess on latency when in this mode? On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. ePMP Force 110 - Montagem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
We will get sync over power too, right? On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
I believe Cambium confirmed that on here less than a week ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 9:43:54 AM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Yes!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Do I have to put away my pitchfork? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then... On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
The newer PTP mode is ~2ms. Older is ~8ms I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Any guess on latency when in this mode? On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. ePMP Force 110 - Montagem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary. Do I have to put away my pitchfork? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then... On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
Any guess on latency when in this mode? On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Dude, for real, more licensing? On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com'); wrote: No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a software license. Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com'); wrote: Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','matt.mailingli...@gmail.com'); wrote: It's expected, yes. Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. ePMP Force 110 - Montagem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?