Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP bug?

2016-03-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Yep

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 28, 2016 1:22 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> Did they have new stickers over the originals (like if the part number had
> been changed)?
>
> We got some that were apparently originally the non-US version and that
> were re-programmed to be Force 110 PTP's, and at least one of them did
> that. Some others stayed unlocked, but I was careful to use them where they
> aren't likely to go over 10 SM's, just in case they decide to lock
> themselves someday.
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a couple of units that I hand wrote as Force 110 PTP.  This is the
>> same thing as the 5 GHz AP lite.
>>
>> I log into them with 2.3.4 and they say they can do 60 registrations.  I
>> change it to 120 and it accepts that.  I update to 2.6.1 and then I'm
>> limited to 10 registrations.
>>
>> Update before you deploy...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP bug?

2016-03-28 Thread Mathew Howard
Did they have new stickers over the originals (like if the part number had
been changed)?

We got some that were apparently originally the non-US version and that
were re-programmed to be Force 110 PTP's, and at least one of them did
that. Some others stayed unlocked, but I was careful to use them where they
aren't likely to go over 10 SM's, just in case they decide to lock
themselves someday.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I have a couple of units that I hand wrote as Force 110 PTP.  This is the
> same thing as the 5 GHz AP lite.
>
> I log into them with 2.3.4 and they say they can do 60 registrations.  I
> change it to 120 and it accepts that.  I update to 2.6.1 and then I'm
> limited to 10 registrations.
>
> Update before you deploy...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>


Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-17 Thread John Butler
The radio takes its sync source from the built-in GPS receiver or over Ethernet 
from a CMM or CMM-like device.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting)
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 6:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

We will get sync over power too, right?
On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote:
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable 
GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration – that is one 
“SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting)
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync 
capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a 
software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that you 
don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your 
product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio 
(identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the 
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna 
all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going 
forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites 
and provide coordinates but will not allow sync.

Thanks,
Sriram

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the 
exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes 
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but 
Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt 
matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
 reuse?








Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Mike Hammett
But still so fun... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 2:48:12 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP 

The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary. 




Do I have to put away my pitchfork? 

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 
On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: 

blockquote

Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then... 



On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  
wrote: 

blockquote

Yes!! 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler  john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com 
 wrote: 

blockquote



The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable 
GPS Sync mode of operation, but only in the PTP configuration – that is one 
“SM” connected. You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that. 




From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting) 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP 

Dude, for real, more licensing? 

On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
blockquote


Software license? Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi  
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com  wrote: 


No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync 
capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a 
software license. 

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks! 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP 


Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand that you 
don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your 
product and our services by never enabling PTP sync. 



Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =) 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi  
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com  wrote: 


blockquote



Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio 
(identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the 
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna 
all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going 
forward J ) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track 
satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync. 

Thanks, 
Sriram 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM 
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP 


That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the 
exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes 
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but 
Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point. 



On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt  matt.mailingli...@gmail.com  wrote: 


blockquote

 It's expected, yes. 

Do they have a GPS antenna port? Not seeing one. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4 



 
 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency 
 reuse? 
 



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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Bill Prince

Ah shucks.  I'd just gotten it all polished up...

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/16/2015 12:48 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary.


Do I have to put away my pitchfork?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then...

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:


Yes!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler
john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will
allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in
the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected.  You
will not need to purchase a license key to enable that.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Dude, for real, more licensing?

On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to
Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold
today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan
to allow enabling of sync through a software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync,
but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our
services by never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you
enable PTP sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses
the Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet
ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and
GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going
forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio
will still track satellites and provide coordinates
but will not allow sync.

Thanks,

Sriram

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not
a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the
synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync
disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that
they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4



 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a
firmware update for frequency
 reuse?












Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread John Butler
Matt is correct about the latency.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:42 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same is 
it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms. But 
I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame size 
is available.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
The newer PTP mode is ~2ms.  Older is ~8ms I think?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt 
matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
Any guess on latency when in this mode?


On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler 
john.but...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable 
GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration – that is one 
“SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting)
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync 
capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a 
software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that you 
don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your 
product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio 
(identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the 
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna 
all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going 
forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites 
and provide coordinates but will not allow sync.

Thanks,
Sriram

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the 
exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes 
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but 
Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt 
matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.
ePMP Force 110 - Montagemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
 reuse?









Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
So uh did no one else notice they put the Cambium logo on wrong?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4

 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
  reuse?
 



[AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Matt
Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse?


Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
It's expected, yes.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
 reuse?



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes.  It's the AP hardware.  Just a software tick disabling sync right now.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2015 1:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4

 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
  reuse?
 



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio 
(identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the 
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna 
all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going 
forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites 
and provide coordinates but will not allow sync.

Thanks,
Sriram

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the 
exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes 
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but 
Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt 
matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
 reuse?




Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that
you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder
your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
 (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
 Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
 chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks
 Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The
 radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not
 allow sync.



 Thanks,

 Sriram



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the
 exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
 comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
 software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
 point-to-point.



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
  reuse?
 





Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync
 capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a
 software license.



 Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that
 you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder
 your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.



 Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
 (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
 Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
 chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks
 Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The
 radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not
 allow sync.



 Thanks,

 Sriram



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the
 exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
 comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
 software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
 point-to-point.



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
  reuse?
 







Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Matt
 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
 reuse?



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Mathew Howard
That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the
exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4

 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
  reuse?
 



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Yup


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

  We will get sync over power too, right?

 On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote:

  The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to
 enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration –
 that is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to
 enable that.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Dude, for real, more licensing?

 On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

 No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync
 capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a
 software license.



 Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that
 you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder
 your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.



 Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
 (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
 Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
 chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks
 Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The
 radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not
 allow sync.



 Thanks,

 Sriram



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the
 exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
 comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
 software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
 point-to-point.



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
  reuse?
 













Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Matt
 That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same
 is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms.
 But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms frame
 size is available.

What is frame size now?

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 The newer PTP mode is ~2ms.  Older is ~8ms I think?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any guess on latency when in this mode?


 On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:

 The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to
 enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration – 
 that
 is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to
 enable that.





 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber
 Broadcasting)
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Dude, for real, more licensing?

 On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

 No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync
 capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a
 software license.



 Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!



 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that
 you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder
 your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.



 Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

 Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
 (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
 Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
 chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks 
 Josh.
 I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio
 will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow 
 sync.



 Thanks,

 Sriram



 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
 To: af
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is
 the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
 comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
 software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
 point-to-point.



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 ePMP Force 110 - Montagem


 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for
  frequency
  reuse?
 













Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)

We'll see. I'll put my pitchfork down.. for now.

On 3/16/2015 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yup


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote:


We will get sync over power too, right?

On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote:


The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow
you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP
configuration – that is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to
purchase a license key to enable that.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George
Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Dude, for real, more licensing?

On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Software license? Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today
with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow
enabling of sync through a software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I
don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by
never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable
PTP sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the
Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports).
The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with
Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna
all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m
using this going forward J) to disable sync
functionality. The radio will still track satellites and
provide coordinates but will not allow sync.

Thanks,

Sriram

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a
PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP
and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS
antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning
to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4



 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a
firmware update for frequency
 reuse?









Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Mathew Howard
it's 5ms now.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

  That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the
 same
  is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about
 17ms.
  But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms
 frame
  size is available.

 What is frame size now?

  On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:
 
  The newer PTP mode is ~2ms.  Older is ~8ms I think?
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Any guess on latency when in this mode?
 
 
  On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler 
 john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com
  wrote:
 
  The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you
 to
  enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration
 – that
  is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to
  enable that.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
 (Cyber
  Broadcasting)
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
 
 
 
  Dude, for real, more licensing?
 
  On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 
  Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?
 
 
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
  sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:
 
  No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync
  capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync
 through a
  software license.
 
 
 
  Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!
 
 
 
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
 
 
 
  Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand
 that
  you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd
 hinder
  your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.
 
 
 
  Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync
 =)
 
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
  sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:
 
  Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
  (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with
 the
  Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
  chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick
 (Thanks Josh.
  I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The
 radio
  will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not
 allow sync.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Sriram
 
 
 
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
  To: af
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP
 
 
 
  That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is
  the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it
 even
  comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
  software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable
 sync for
  point-to-point.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   It's expected, yes.
 
  Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.
 
  ePMP Force 110 - Montagem
 
 
  
   Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for
   frequency
   reuse?
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Mathew Howard
That's flexible mode though... I'm assuming latency is going to be the same
is it is with PtMP Synced mode, which I think is supposed to be about 17ms.
But I'm assuming that's going to be reduced quite a lot when the 2.5ms
frame size is available.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 The newer PTP mode is ~2ms.  Older is ~8ms I think?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any guess on latency when in this mode?


 On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:

  The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you
 to enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration –
 that is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to
 enable that.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
 (Cyber Broadcasting)
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Dude, for real, more licensing?

 On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

 No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync
 capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a
 software license.



 Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that
 you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder
 your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.



 Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
 (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
 Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
 chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks
 Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality.
 The radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not
 allow sync.



 Thanks,

 Sriram



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is
 the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
 comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
 software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
 point-to-point.



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 ePMP Force 110 - Montagem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for
 frequency
  reuse?
 













Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)

We will get sync over power too, right?

On 3/16/2015 2:09 PM, John Butler wrote:


The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you 
to enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP 
configuration – that is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to 
purchase a license key to enable that.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup 
(Cyber Broadcasting)

*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Dude, for real, more licensing?

On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Software license?  Auuugh. What happened to Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with
sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of
sync through a software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync? I understand
that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why
you'd hinder your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP
sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d
radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110
PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE
port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to
disable sync functionality. The radio will still track
satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync.

Thanks,

Sriram

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP,
the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does
have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has
it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has
stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4



 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware
update for frequency
 reuse?






Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I believe Cambium confirmed that on here less than a week ago. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 9:43:54 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP 

Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency reuse? 



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler 
john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to
 enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration –
 that is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to
 enable that.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
 (Cyber Broadcasting)
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Dude, for real, more licensing?

 On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

 No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync
 capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a
 software license.



 Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that
 you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder
 your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.



 Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
 (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
 Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
 chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks
 Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The
 radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not
 allow sync.



 Thanks,

 Sriram



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the
 exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
 comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
 software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
 point-to-point.



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
  reuse?
 











Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Bill Prince

Do I have to put away my pitchfork?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then...

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Yes!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler
john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will
allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in
the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected. You will
not need to purchase a license key to enable that.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Dude, for real, more licensing?

On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Software license? Auuugh.  What happened to
Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold
today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to
allow enabling of sync through a software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync,
but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our
services by never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you
enable PTP sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the
Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports).
The Force 110 PTP comes with the Connectorized radio
with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going
forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio
will still track satellites and provide coordinates
but will not allow sync.

Thanks,

Sriram

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a
PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced
AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes with the
GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled
in software, but Cambium has stated that they are
planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4



 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a
firmware update for frequency
 reuse?








Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread John Butler
The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to enable 
GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration – that is one 
“SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to enable that.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting)
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Dude, for real, more licensing?
On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:
No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync 
capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a 
software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that you 
don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder your 
product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:
Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio 
(identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the 
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna 
all included) but with a software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going 
forward ☺) to disable sync functionality. The radio will still track satellites 
and provide coordinates but will not allow sync.

Thanks,
Sriram

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the 
exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes 
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in software, but 
Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt 
matt.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
 reuse?







Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)

Dude, for real, more licensing?

On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com 
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:


No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with
sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of
sync through a software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I
don't see why you'd hinder your product and our services by never
enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP
sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d
radio (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110
PTP comes with the Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE
port and GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to
disable sync functionality. The radio will still track
satellites and provide coordinates but will not allow sync.

Thanks,

Sriram

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP,
the PTP is the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does
have a GPS port (it even comes with the GPS antenna), but has
it currently has sync disabled in software, but Cambium has
stated that they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4



 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware
update for frequency
 reuse?







Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
The newer PTP mode is ~2ms.  Older is ~8ms I think?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any guess on latency when in this mode?


 On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:

  The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you
 to enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration –
 that is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to
 enable that.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
 (Cyber Broadcasting)
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Dude, for real, more licensing?

 On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

 No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync
 capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a
 software license.



 Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that
 you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder
 your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.



 Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
 (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
 Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
 chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks
 Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The
 radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not
 allow sync.



 Thanks,

 Sriram



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is
 the exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
 comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
 software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
 point-to-point.



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 ePMP Force 110 - Montagem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for
 frequency
  reuse?
 












Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Adam Moffett

The clarification seems to make the pitchfork unnecessary.


Do I have to put away my pitchfork?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/16/2015 12:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Excellent! I guess we won't be needing an angry mob then...

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Yes!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, John Butler
john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will
allow you to enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in
the PTP configuration – that is one “SM” connected.  You will
not need to purchase a license key to enable that.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting)
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Dude, for real, more licensing?

On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Software license? Auuugh.  What happened to
Cambium 2.0?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold
today with sync capabilities disabled. There is a plan to
allow enabling of sync through a software license.

Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I
understand that you don't want them used for PTMP sync,
but I don't see why you'd hinder your product and our
services by never enabling PTP sync.

Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you
enable PTP sync =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the
Unsync’d radio (identified by the two Ethernet
ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and
GPS chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a
software tick (Thanks Josh. I’m using this going
forward J) to disable sync functionality. The radio
will still track satellites and provide coordinates
but will not allow sync.

Thanks,

Sriram

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
Howard
*Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not
a PTP, the PTP is the exact same hardware as the
synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even comes
with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync
disabled in software, but Cambium has stated that
they are planning to enable sync for point-to-point.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt
matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's expected, yes.

Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4



 Will these eventually have GPS sync with a
firmware update for frequency
 reuse?










Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP

2015-03-16 Thread Matt
Any guess on latency when in this mode?


On Monday, March 16, 2015, John Butler john.but...@cambiumnetworks.com
wrote:

  The plan is that there will be a software upgrade that will allow you to
 enable GPS Sync mode of operation,  but only in the PTP configuration –
 that is one “SM” connected.  You will not need to purchase a license key to
 enable that.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *George
 Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 1:32 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Dude, for real, more licensing?

 On 3/16/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Software license?  Auuugh.  What happened to Cambium 2.0?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com');
 wrote:

 No, that’s not what I said. The Force 110 PTP is sold today with sync
 capabilities disabled. There is a plan to allow enabling of sync through a
 software license.



 Software Tick™. Got it. Thanks!



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Josh
 Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:54 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 Are you saying that the units will never do PTP sync?  I understand that
 you don't want them used for PTMP sync, but I don't see why you'd hinder
 your product and our services by never enabling PTP sync.



 Software tick is trademarked, you can use it if you enable PTP sync =)



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
 sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com');
 wrote:

  Correct. The video shows the Force 110 which uses the Unsync’d radio
 (identified by the two Ethernet ports). The Force 110 PTP comes with the
 Connectorized radio with Sync (single GigE port and GPS
 chip/connectors/antenna all included) but with a software tick (Thanks
 Josh. I’m using this going forward J) to disable sync functionality. The
 radio will still track satellites and provide coordinates but will not
 allow sync.



 Thanks,

 Sriram



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
 Howard
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 12:42 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110 PTP



 That's just a standard Force 110 in that video - not a PTP, the PTP is the
 exact same hardware as the synced AP and does have a GPS port (it even
 comes with the GPS antenna), but has it currently has sync disabled in
 software, but Cambium has stated that they are planning to enable sync for
 point-to-point.



 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','matt.mailingli...@gmail.com'); wrote:

  It's expected, yes.

 Do they have a GPS antenna port?  Not seeing one.

 ePMP Force 110 - Montagem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyNKpoIHO4


 
  Will these eventually have GPS sync with a firmware update for frequency
  reuse?