Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-13 Thread Rory Conaway
You want to build long range 2.4GHz/5Ghz hot-spots.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 2:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

Good to know..  I have no idea what I am walking in to, but we are dealing with 
the President’s office directly.  Guess I will know more later in the month.

From: Chris Wright
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 1:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

Having just returned from a week in Port-Au-Prince, 15mbps is at least one 
order of magnitude faster than typical speeds out there. The church we were at 
saw 3mbps when it was online, which was about 60% of the time, and that was 
FTTH if you can believe it. Outages are expected, they happen multiple times 
each day and last anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours. We gave wireless 
solutions some thought and for a country where the average income is less than 
$30/month, even bottom-of-the-barrel hardware is too expensive to deploy, let 
alone premium stuff like Cambium.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am currently 
under the impression that it is giving the largest number of people a decent 
level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.  To me anything over 
15 Mbps is gravy.

From: Gino Villarini
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max 
clients?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them later in 
the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to 
number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I have never operated one.  
And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds 
and throughput on a PMP system.

Is there a better system?
How heavy can you load this system?



Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-13 Thread Chuck McCown
Great suggestion.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:10 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

Since you're dealing with the President's office, I wonder if there's any 
potential for licensed frequencies... if there's any possibility of 2.5ghz or 
3.5ghz type of stuff, Baicells LTE would certainly be worth looking at.


On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Good to know..  I have no idea what I am walking in to, but we are dealing 
with the President’s office directly.  Guess I will know more later in the 
month.  

  From: Chris Wright 
  Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 1:42 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

  Having just returned from a week in Port-Au-Prince, 15mbps is at least one 
order of magnitude faster than typical speeds out there. The church we were at 
saw 3mbps when it was online, which was about 60% of the time, and that was 
FTTH if you can believe it. Outages are expected, they happen multiple times 
each day and last anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours. We gave wireless 
solutions some thought and for a country where the average income is less than 
$30/month, even bottom-of-the-barrel hardware is too expensive to deploy, let 
alone premium stuff like Cambium. 



  Chris Wright

  Network Administrator



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:44 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa



  I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am currently 
under the impression that it is giving the largest number of people a decent 
level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.  To me anything over 
15 Mbps is gravy.  



  From: Gino Villarini 

  Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa



  Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max 
clients?



  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa



  I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them later 
in the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to 
number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I have never operated one.  
And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds 
and throughput on a PMP system.  



  Is there a better system?

  How heavy can you load this system?



Gino Villarini
   
President
   
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
   





Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-13 Thread Mathew Howard
Since you're dealing with the President's office, I wonder if there's any
potential for licensed frequencies... if there's any possibility of 2.5ghz
or 3.5ghz type of stuff, Baicells LTE would certainly be worth looking at.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Good to know..  I have no idea what I am walking in to, but we are dealing
> with the President’s office directly.  Guess I will know more later in the
> month.
>
> *From:* Chris Wright
> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 1:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
>
> Having just returned from a week in Port-Au-Prince, 15mbps is at least one
> order of magnitude faster than typical speeds out there. The church we were
> at saw 3mbps when it was online, which was about 60% of the time, and that
> was FTTH if you can believe it. Outages are expected, they happen multiple
> times each day and last anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours. We gave
> wireless solutions some thought and for a country where the average income
> is less than $30/month, even bottom-of-the-barrel hardware is too expensive
> to deploy, let alone premium stuff like Cambium.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
>
>
> I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am
> currently under the impression that it is giving the largest number of
> people a decent level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.
> To me anything over 15 Mbps is gravy.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
>
>
> Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max
> clients?
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
>
>
> I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them
> later in the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best
> recommendation as to number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I
> have never operated one.  And I know there are other vendors attempting to
> take prize for highest speeds and throughput on a PMP system.
>
>
>
> Is there a better system?
>
> How heavy can you load this system?
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-13 Thread Chuck McCown
Good to know..  I have no idea what I am walking in to, but we are dealing with 
the President’s office directly.  Guess I will know more later in the month.  

From: Chris Wright 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 1:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

Having just returned from a week in Port-Au-Prince, 15mbps is at least one 
order of magnitude faster than typical speeds out there. The church we were at 
saw 3mbps when it was online, which was about 60% of the time, and that was 
FTTH if you can believe it. Outages are expected, they happen multiple times 
each day and last anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours. We gave wireless 
solutions some thought and for a country where the average income is less than 
$30/month, even bottom-of-the-barrel hardware is too expensive to deploy, let 
alone premium stuff like Cambium. 

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

 

I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am currently 
under the impression that it is giving the largest number of people a decent 
level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.  To me anything over 
15 Mbps is gravy.  

 

From: Gino Villarini 

Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

 

Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max 
clients?

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

 

I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them later in 
the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to 
number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I have never operated one.  
And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds 
and throughput on a PMP system.  

 

Is there a better system?

How heavy can you load this system?

   

  Gino Villarini
 
  President
 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
 




Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-13 Thread Mathew Howard
It really depends on what type of project this is... if it's a well funded
and needs to work well, then Canopy makes a lot of sense to me, but if
we're talking about the type of thing where you want to connect as many
people as possible on a limited budget, you want to look at the lower
priced gear, in my opinion.

An ePMP system could certainly provide more than 3Mbps more than 60% of the
time to a pretty large number of customers without much difficulty... and
it'd be way cheaper Canopy. And you could probably cut equipment costs in
half again by using Ubiquiti (even using AC gear).

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net> wrote:

> Having just returned from a week in Port-Au-Prince, 15mbps is at least one
> order of magnitude faster than typical speeds out there. The church we were
> at saw 3mbps when it was online, which was about 60% of the time, and that
> was FTTH if you can believe it. Outages are expected, they happen multiple
> times each day and last anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours. We gave
> wireless solutions some thought and for a country where the average income
> is less than $30/month, even bottom-of-the-barrel hardware is too expensive
> to deploy, let alone premium stuff like Cambium.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
>
>
> I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am
> currently under the impression that it is giving the largest number of
> people a decent level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.
> To me anything over 15 Mbps is gravy.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
>
>
> Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max
> clients?
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
>
>
> I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them
> later in the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best
> recommendation as to number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I
> have never operated one.  And I know there are other vendors attempting to
> take prize for highest speeds and throughput on a PMP system.
>
>
>
> Is there a better system?
>
> How heavy can you load this system?
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-13 Thread Chris Wright
Having just returned from a week in Port-Au-Prince, 15mbps is at least one 
order of magnitude faster than typical speeds out there. The church we were at 
saw 3mbps when it was online, which was about 60% of the time, and that was 
FTTH if you can believe it. Outages are expected, they happen multiple times 
each day and last anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours. We gave wireless 
solutions some thought and for a country where the average income is less than 
$30/month, even bottom-of-the-barrel hardware is too expensive to deploy, let 
alone premium stuff like Cambium.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am currently 
under the impression that it is giving the largest number of people a decent 
level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.  To me anything over 
15 Mbps is gravy.

From: Gino Villarini
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max 
clients?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them later in 
the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to 
number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I have never operated one.  
And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds 
and throughput on a PMP system.

Is there a better system?
How heavy can you load this system?



Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-13 Thread Craig Schmaderer
I will be deploying a few of these this year, I have a few 450aps that need to 
be upgraded.  I don’t think you can ask for anything better, canopy reliability 
and features, plus as far as I know, no one can do this in a 20mhz channel, not 
even close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmc9TR_Shqo



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

The 450m does uplink and downlink beam-steering and MU-MIMO. So it can talk to 
multiple SMs simultaneously. It's capable of sending different data to 7 SMs in 
the same frame. I wouldn't bet the farm on 7, but real-world results have shown 
3-4 which is a huge improvement over a standard 450/450i sector, especially 
considering it's the same occupied slice of spectrum. The uplink beam steering 
will also give a boost to your SM uplink modulations.

That price tag though. It's cheaper than some LTE stuff and more expensive than 
others. But consider that it's roughly the cost of two 450/450i sectors. If you 
have an installed base of 450/450i SMs (430 SMs not supported), and they're 
dispersed enough across the 90 degrees (not all within 10-15 degrees in a 
valley for example) for you to realize the 3x or potentially more performance 
increase, then it's probably a good solution.

Don't overlook ePMP if you're rolling out green and want to keep costs down. It 
sure ain't no Medusa, but it gives decent performance for the price. An ePMP 
2000 AP is roughly 1/10th the cost of a 450m. And you can add the uplink 
beam-steering "Smart Antenna" to the 2k. We have a few deployed on top of some 
FSK micro-POPs and we're seeing about 85Mbps aggregate. We have about 10% of 
the customers moved off of the FSK so far and it's doing great.
On 3/12/2017 5:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have always been a Canopy guy.  But I realize there are plenty of other 
companies out there that also have good engineering talent.  I don’t want to 
ignore any system but I do trust Canopy/Cambium.

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:37 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

There are other systems that should be able to get more bandwidth to a single 
customer, or even a few customers, but in terms of the overall bandwidth to as 
many customers as possible, I don't think anything comes close to the Medusa. 
That's not to say that it's necessarily the best system for any given 
situation, but if the goal is lots of 15ish meg customers, and quality is more 
important than cost, it's probably the way to go... but I haven't ever operated 
one either.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am currently 
under the impression that it is giving the largest number of people a decent 
level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.  To me anything over 
15 Mbps is gravy.

From: Gino Villarini
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max 
clients?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them later in 
the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to 
number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I have never operated one.  
And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds 
and throughput on a PMP system.

Is there a better system?
How heavy can you load this system?



Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


[cid:image001.png@01D29C05.20AEC5A0]




Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-12 Thread George Skorup
The 450m does uplink and downlink beam-steering and MU-MIMO. So it can 
talk to multiple SMs simultaneously. It's capable of sending different 
data to 7 SMs in the same frame. I wouldn't bet the farm on 7, but 
real-world results have shown 3-4 which is a huge improvement over a 
standard 450/450i sector, especially considering it's the same occupied 
slice of spectrum. The uplink beam steering will also give a boost to 
your SM uplink modulations.


That price tag though. It's cheaper than some LTE stuff and more 
expensive than others. But consider that it's roughly the cost of two 
450/450i sectors. If you have an installed base of 450/450i SMs (430 SMs 
not supported), and they're dispersed enough across the 90 degrees (not 
all within 10-15 degrees in a valley for example) for you to realize the 
3x or potentially more performance increase, then it's probably a good 
solution.


Don't overlook ePMP if you're rolling out green and want to keep costs 
down. It sure ain't no Medusa, but it gives decent performance for the 
price. An ePMP 2000 AP is roughly 1/10th the cost of a 450m. And you can 
add the uplink beam-steering "Smart Antenna" to the 2k. We have a few 
deployed on top of some FSK micro-POPs and we're seeing about 85Mbps 
aggregate. We have about 10% of the customers moved off of the FSK so 
far and it's doing great.


On 3/12/2017 5:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have always been a Canopy guy.  But I realize there are plenty of 
other companies out there that also have good engineering talent.  I 
don’t want to ignore any system but I do trust Canopy/Cambium.

*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:37 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
There are other systems that should be able to get more bandwidth to a 
single customer, or even a few customers, but in terms of the overall 
bandwidth to as many customers as possible, I don't think anything 
comes close to the Medusa. That's not to say that it's necessarily the 
best system for any given situation, but if the goal is lots of 15ish 
meg customers, and quality is more important than cost, it's probably 
the way to go... but I haven't ever operated one either.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I
am currently under the impression that it is giving the largest
number of people a decent level of service.  I don’t know what
they consider decent.  To me anything over 15 Mbps is gravy.
*From:* Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput
on max clients?
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with
them later in the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the
best recommendation as to number of higher bandwidth customers per
AP.  But I have never operated one.  And I know there are other
vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds and throughput
on a PMP system.
Is there a better system?
How heavy can you load this system?

*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968





Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-12 Thread Chuck McCown
I have always been a Canopy guy.  But I realize there are plenty of other 
companies out there that also have good engineering talent.  I don’t want to 
ignore any system but I do trust Canopy/Cambium.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:37 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

There are other systems that should be able to get more bandwidth to a single 
customer, or even a few customers, but in terms of the overall bandwidth to as 
many customers as possible, I don't think anything comes close to the Medusa. 
That's not to say that it's necessarily the best system for any given 
situation, but if the goal is lots of 15ish meg customers, and quality is more 
important than cost, it's probably the way to go... but I haven't ever operated 
one either.


On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am currently 
under the impression that it is giving the largest number of people a decent 
level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.  To me anything over 
15 Mbps is gravy.  

  From: Gino Villarini 
  Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

  Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max 
clients?

  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
  Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa


  I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them later 
in the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to 
number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I have never operated one.  
And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds 
and throughput on a PMP system.  

  Is there a better system?
  How heavy can you load this system?



Gino Villarini
   
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 





Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-12 Thread Mathew Howard
There are other systems that should be able to get more bandwidth to a
single customer, or even a few customers, but in terms of the overall
bandwidth to as many customers as possible, I don't think anything comes
close to the Medusa. That's not to say that it's necessarily the best
system for any given situation, but if the goal is lots of 15ish meg
customers, and quality is more important than cost, it's probably the way
to go... but I haven't ever operated one either.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am
> currently under the impression that it is giving the largest number of
> people a decent level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.
> To me anything over 15 Mbps is gravy.
>
> *From:* Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
> Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max
> clients?
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
>
> I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them
> later in the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best
> recommendation as to number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I
> have never operated one.  And I know there are other vendors attempting to
> take prize for highest speeds and throughput on a PMP system.
>
> Is there a better system?
> How heavy can you load this system?
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-12 Thread chuck
I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami.  I am currently 
under the impression that it is giving the largest number of people a decent 
level of service.  I don’t know what they consider decent.  To me anything over 
15 Mbps is gravy.  

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max 
clients?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa


I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them later in 
the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to 
number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I have never operated one.  
And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds 
and throughput on a PMP system.  

Is there a better system?
How heavy can you load this system?


  Gino Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 





Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

2017-03-12 Thread Gino Villarini
Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max 
clients?

From: Af > on behalf of Chuck 
McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa

I am still working on a system for Haiti.  Will be visiting with them later in 
the month.  I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to 
number of higher bandwidth customers per AP.  But I have never operated one.  
And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds 
and throughput on a PMP system.

Is there a better system?
How heavy can you load this system?



Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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