Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

man, that cacti ez, its a beautiful thing, I havent seen detailed graphs
like this on our equipment in a long long time.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> There is a thread on NANOG right now about mrtg/cacti.
>
> Answer? Observium :P
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:06 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> I just install it on CentOS via yum. I forget what repo it's in, maybe
>> EPEL. I do that to get the required dependencies. And then remove the repo
>> provided Cacti since it's almost always out of date. Then download the
>> latest from cacti.net or restore my backup, etc.
>>
>> I've said this before and I'll say it again. Cacti is not an NMS. It's an
>> RRDtool front-end. A lot of plugins like Thold are buggy. I still use it,
>> and it works fine. Been using Cacti for like 9-10 years.
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/2016 12:31 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> cactiEZ gave me fits sometime back so i never messed with it again. Its
>> installed now, and even has network weathermap. Thanks!
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> CactiEZ. Couldn't be easier.  <http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/>
>>> http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a
>>>> wizard based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up
>>>> cacti, i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got
>>>> drunk.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband <
>>>> <li...@smarterbroadband.com>li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you use Mike?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: <af-boun...@afmug.com>af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
>>>>> *To: * <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>>>
>>>>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>>>>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>>>>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They would be expected to;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Create templates as requested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Reynolds]

There is a thread on NANOG right now about mrtg/cacti.

Answer? Observium :P

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:06 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> I just install it on CentOS via yum. I forget what repo it's in, maybe
> EPEL. I do that to get the required dependencies. And then remove the repo
> provided Cacti since it's almost always out of date. Then download the
> latest from cacti.net or restore my backup, etc.
>
> I've said this before and I'll say it again. Cacti is not an NMS. It's an
> RRDtool front-end. A lot of plugins like Thold are buggy. I still use it,
> and it works fine. Been using Cacti for like 9-10 years.
>
>
> On 3/22/2016 12:31 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> cactiEZ gave me fits sometime back so i never messed with it again. Its
> installed now, and even has network weathermap. Thanks!
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> CactiEZ. Couldn't be easier.  <http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/>
>> http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard
>>> based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti,
>>> i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband <
>>> <li...@smarterbroadband.com>li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you use Mike?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: <af-boun...@afmug.com>af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
>>>> *To: * <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>>
>>>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>>>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>>>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They would be expected to;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Create templates as requested.
>>>>
>>>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>>>
>>>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

cactiEZ gave me fits sometime back so i never messed with it again. Its
installed now, and even has network weathermap. Thanks!

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> CactiEZ. Couldn't be easier. http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard
>> based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti,
>> i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband <
>> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To what?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you use Mike?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>
>>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They would be expected to;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Create templates as requested.
>>>
>>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>>
>>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Steve]

Don't use it for logging we use splunk.  So I couldn't comment on how it 
handles logging.  I look at it purely as a graphing program alternative to 
cacti.  All the extra features are just a bonus.  

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

Not all of the rest. You have to setup the syslog, configuration tracking, etc. 
Basically, you need to configure everything beyond what the old time stuff 
does. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve" <li...@wavedirect.org> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:08:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 

LibreNMS - all support is already there for most devices. Just in the 
ip/hostname and the snmp community and boom it does the rest. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> 
To: "af" <af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:02:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 

That's been my problem too... 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard 
> based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti, 
> i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk. 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband < 
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: 
> 
>> To what? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What do you use Mike? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cacti is old, time to move on... 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> 
>> 
>> 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com> 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com 
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM 
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 
>> 
>> A number of us are cacti users. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small 
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library 
>> for us? We would specify our template requirements. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They would be expected to; 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Create templates as requested. 
>> 
>> Update templates for new firmware. 
>> 
>> Keep a library of all templates. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t know what company yet. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What do you think? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adam 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Eric Muehleisen]

CactiEZ. Couldn't be easier. http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard
> based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti,
> i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk.
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> To what?
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you use Mike?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>>
>>
>> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> They would be expected to;
>>
>>
>>
>> Create templates as requested.
>>
>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>
>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Mike Hammett]

Not all of the rest. You have to setup the syslog, configuration tracking, etc. 
Basically, you need to configure everything beyond what the old time stuff 
does. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve" <li...@wavedirect.org> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:08:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 

LibreNMS - all support is already there for most devices. Just in the 
ip/hostname and the snmp community and boom it does the rest. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> 
To: "af" <af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:02:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 

That's been my problem too... 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard 
> based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti, 
> i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk. 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband < 
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: 
> 
>> To what? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What do you use Mike? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cacti is old, time to move on... 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> 
>> 
>> 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com> 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com 
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM 
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 
>> 
>> A number of us are cacti users. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small 
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library 
>> for us? We would specify our template requirements. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They would be expected to; 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Create templates as requested. 
>> 
>> Update templates for new firmware. 
>> 
>> Keep a library of all templates. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t know what company yet. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What do you think? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adam 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Steve]

LibreNMS - all support is already there for most devices.  Just in the 
ip/hostname and the snmp community and boom it does the rest.  

- Original Message -
From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:02:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

That's been my problem too...

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard
> based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti,
> i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk.
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> To what?
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you use Mike?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>>
>>
>> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> They would be expected to;
>>
>>
>>
>> Create templates as requested.
>>
>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>
>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Mathew Howard]

That's been my problem too...

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard
> based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti,
> i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk.
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> To what?
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you use Mike?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>>
>>
>> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> They would be expected to;
>>
>>
>>
>> Create templates as requested.
>>
>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>
>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Steve]

LibreNMS here as well.  Its just much better than Observium in a lot of ways 
for our industry.  Plus they are working on their new 2.0 interface.  

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:50:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

NetXMS and LibreNMS in different environments. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:45:39 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 



To what? 

What do you use Mike? 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 


Cacti is old, time to move on... 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "SmarterBroadband" < li...@smarterbroadband.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 
A number of us are cacti users. 

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us? We 
would specify our template requirements. 

They would be expected to; 

Create templates as requested. 
Update templates for new firmware. 
Keep a library of all templates. 

I don’t know what company yet. 

What do you think? 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Steve]

We use Cacti and will continue to use it.  Its a good  "second opinion". 

- Original Message -
From: "SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:45:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

To what?

 

What do you use Mike?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

 

Cacti is old, time to move on...



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 




  _  

From: "SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

A number of us are cacti users.

 

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us?  We 
would specify our template requirements. 

 

They would be expected to;

 

Create templates as requested.

Update templates for new firmware.

Keep a library of all templates.

 

I don’t know what company yet.

 

What do you think?

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Mike Hammett]

NetXMS and LibreNMS in different environments. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:45:39 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 



To what? 

What do you use Mike? 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 


Cacti is old, time to move on... 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "SmarterBroadband" < li...@smarterbroadband.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 
A number of us are cacti users. 

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us? We 
would specify our template requirements. 

They would be expected to; 

Create templates as requested. 
Update templates for new firmware. 
Keep a library of all templates. 

I don’t know what company yet. 

What do you think? 

Adam 

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard
based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti,
i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband <
li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:

> To what?
>
>
>
> What do you use Mike?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>
>
>
> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>
> A number of us are cacti users.
>
>
>
> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>
>
>
> They would be expected to;
>
>
>
> Create templates as requested.
>
> Update templates for new firmware.
>
> Keep a library of all templates.
>
>
>
> I don’t know what company yet.
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[SmarterBroadband]

To what?

 

What do you use Mike?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

 

Cacti is old, time to move on...



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 




  _  

From: "SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

A number of us are cacti users.

 

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us?  We 
would specify our template requirements. 

 

They would be expected to;

 

Create templates as requested.

Update templates for new firmware.

Keep a library of all templates.

 

I don’t know what company yet.

 

What do you think?

 

Adam

 

  

 

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[SmarterBroadband]

Kentik

 

Has anyone used this?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

 

I'm very progressive when it comes to tech. Just because something does and has 
worked doesn't mean it's the tool you should be using. Many of the tools people 
are using have limited abilities to effectively manage syslog, configurations, 
custom actions, etc.

Many tools lack the customizable precision one should want. Screw 5 minute 
averages. You want 5 second averages (or maybe less) on critical infrastructure 
and priority clients. Five minutes may be appropriate for residential 
customers. Maybe less for vacation homes.

Then you've got things like Kentik that really bring about a new way to present 
the information, allowing you to make better decisions because you can actually 
see what the data is telling you.



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 




  _  

From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:15:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

I thought you were a conservative, you are sounding like a progressive.

 

Nothing wrong with old school.  Get off my yard.

 

 

From: Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>  

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:06 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

 

Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth using. 
Most anything else is old school.



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 




  _  

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd / 
nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can do 
billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by 
core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc.

For our fiber network, it does everything  we'd want it to do including 
monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the 
network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc.

I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn hosts 
via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with 
mrtg/cacti/nagios.

On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally free 
software that is more full featured and actively developed by large ISPs:



OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large tier 1 
and 2 ISPs

Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly sized/stepped 
RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary non-NMS datasource 
via shell scripts.

Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph it.



I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything. OpenNMS 
handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer 1 and 2 
parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic interfaces.



 

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
customers.

Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs use.

BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.


On Fri, Mar 18,

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Bill Prince]

Water is older.

I still drink water.

bp


On 3/22/2016 6:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


So is TCP/IP

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett" > wrote:


Cacti is old, time to move on...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"SmarterBroadband" >
*To: *af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

A number of us are cacti users.

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a
small monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti
template library for us?  We would specify our template requirements.

They would be expected to;

Create templates as requested.

Update templates for new firmware.

Keep a library of all templates.

I don’t know what company yet.

What do you think?

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Mike Hammett]

I'm very progressive when it comes to tech. Just because something does and has 
worked doesn't mean it's the tool you should be using. Many of the tools people 
are using have limited abilities to effectively manage syslog, configurations, 
custom actions, etc. 

Many tools lack the customizable precision one should want. Screw 5 minute 
averages. You want 5 second averages (or maybe less) on critical infrastructure 
and priority clients. Five minutes may be appropriate for residential 
customers. Maybe less for vacation homes. 

Then you've got things like Kentik that really bring about a new way to present 
the information, allowing you to make better decisions because you can actually 
see what the data is telling you. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:15:11 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 




I thought you were a conservative, you are sounding like a progressive. 

Nothing wrong with old school. Get off my yard. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:06 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 


Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth using. 
Most anything else is old school. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 


Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd / 
nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can do 
billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by 
core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc. 
For our fiber network, it does everything we'd want it to do including 
monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the 
network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc. 
I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn hosts 
via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with 
mrtg/cacti/nagios. 
On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > wrote: 







I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally free 
software that is more full featured and actively developed by large ISPs: 


OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large tier 1 
and 2 ISPs 

Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly sized/stepped 
RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary non-NMS datasource 
via shell scripts. 

Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph it. 


I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything. OpenNMS 
handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer 1 and 2 
parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic interfaces. 





On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 


Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being 
banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding 
customers. 

Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs use. 

BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now 
supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs. 



On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
< thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> bad fire 
> 
> would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband 
> < li...@smarterbroadband.com > wrote: 
>> 
>> A number of us are cacti users. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small 
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library 
>> for us? We would specify our template requirements. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They would be expected to; 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Create templates as requested. 
>> 
>> Update templates for new firmware. 
>> 
>> Keep a library of all templates. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t know what company yet. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What do you think? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adam 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Reynolds]

You're not thinking this through.

TCP/IP is a totally different animal.

SNMP is old too, we're just using much easier and yet better tools to
manage systems at scale and including prebuilt extensions to give us things
SNMP can't on many systems.

It's more like the difference between a reel mower and a zero-turn riding
mower ;) Both tools have similar functions, one is simply making your life
a lot easier and faster if you've got a bit job to do.
On Mar 22, 2016 8:14 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> I'd say it's a pretty good one.  Just because something is old it
> absolutely doesn't make it antiquated or useless.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 22, 2016 9:09 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>> That's possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard a human being make.
>> Congrats! :)
>> On Mar 22, 2016 8:06 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So is TCP/IP
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>>>
 Cacti is old, time to move on...



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 
 
 The Brothers WISP 
 


 
 --
 *From: *"SmarterBroadband" 
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

 A number of us are cacti users.



 Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
 monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
 for us?  We would specify our template requirements.



 They would be expected to;



 Create templates as requested.

 Update templates for new firmware.

 Keep a library of all templates.



 I don’t know what company yet.



 What do you think?



 Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Mike Hammett]

SNMP really need to go as a whole, but until we can cross that river, it's what 
we have to work with for most manufacturers. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:19:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 


You're not thinking this through. 
TCP/IP is a totally different animal. 
SNMP is old too, we're just using much easier and yet better tools to manage 
systems at scale and including prebuilt extensions to give us things SNMP can't 
on many systems. 
It's more like the difference between a reel mower and a zero-turn riding mower 
;) Both tools have similar functions, one is simply making your life a lot 
easier and faster if you've got a bit job to do. 
On Mar 22, 2016 8:14 AM, "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: 



I'd say it's a pretty good one. Just because something is old it absolutely 
doesn't make it antiquated or useless. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Mar 22, 2016 9:09 AM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 



That's possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard a human being make. Congrats! 
:) 
On Mar 22, 2016 8:06 AM, "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: 



So is TCP/IP 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Cacti is old, time to move on... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "SmarterBroadband" < li...@smarterbroadband.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 



A number of us are cacti users. 

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us? We 
would specify our template requirements. 

They would be expected to; 

Create templates as requested. 
Update templates for new firmware. 
Keep a library of all templates. 

I don’t know what company yet. 

What do you think? 

Adam 

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Baird]

Are you talking about out-of-the-box functionality?  Yeah, maybe Observium,
in this sense, is geared more towards enterprise-ish 'network devices,' but
Zenoss has a much better SNMP interface.  It allows you to easily create
new SNMP datasources and custom graphs (something that is not possible in
Observium without a bunch of code).  This makes it much more flexible then
other options like Observium in my opinion.

Ultimately, it really depends on exactly what you want to monitor and how
much effort you want to put into a solution.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Those are both way more geared for server / VM ops than network / related.
> They're not bad though.
> On Mar 22, 2016 8:08 AM, "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't say that.  Zenoss/Zabbix aren't exactly old school.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth
>>> using. Most anything else is old school.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>
>>> Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd
>>> / nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can
>>> do billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by
>>> core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc.
>>>
>>> For our fiber network, it does everything  we'd want it to do including
>>> monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the
>>> network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc.
>>>
>>> I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn
>>> hosts via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with
>>> mrtg/cacti/nagios.
>>> On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally
>>>> free software that is more full featured and actively developed by large
>>>> ISPs:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very
>>>> large tier 1 and 2 ISPs
>>>>
>>>> Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly
>>>> sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary
>>>> non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.
>>>>
>>>> Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything.
>>>> OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer
>>>> 1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic
>>>> interfaces.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
>>>>> banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
>>>>> customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs
>>>>> use.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
>>>>> supports cu

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Ken Hohhof]

I thought you were a conservative, you are sounding like a progressive.

Nothing wrong with old school.  Get off my yard.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth using. 
Most anything else is old school.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll


Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd / 
nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can do 
billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by 
core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc.

For our fiber network, it does everything  we'd want it to do including 
monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the 
network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc.

I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn hosts 
via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with 
mrtg/cacti/nagios.

On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

  I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally free 
software that is more full featured and actively developed by large ISPs:



  OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large tier 
1 and 2 ISPs


  Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly sized/stepped 
RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary non-NMS datasource 
via shell scripts.


  Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph it.



  I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything. OpenNMS 
handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer 1 and 2 
parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic interfaces.




  On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
customers.

Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs use.

BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.


On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> bad fire
>
> would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
> <li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> They would be expected to;
>>
>>
>>
>> Create templates as requested.
>>
>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>
>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
as
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Paul McCall]

+1

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll


I'd say it's a pretty good one.  Just because something is old it absolutely 
doesn't make it antiquated or useless.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 22, 2016 9:09 AM, "Josh Reynolds" 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

That's possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard a human being make. Congrats! 
:)
On Mar 22, 2016 8:06 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

So is TCP/IP

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Cacti is old, time to move on...


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "SmarterBroadband" 
<li...@smarterbroadband.com<mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
A number of us are cacti users.

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us?  We 
would specify our template requirements.

They would be expected to;

Create templates as requested.
Update templates for new firmware.
Keep a library of all templates.

I don’t know what company yet.

What do you think?

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Luthman]

I'd say it's a pretty good one.  Just because something is old it
absolutely doesn't make it antiquated or useless.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 22, 2016 9:09 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> That's possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard a human being make.
> Congrats! :)
> On Mar 22, 2016 8:06 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> So is TCP/IP
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>>
>>> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>
>>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They would be expected to;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Create templates as requested.
>>>
>>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>>
>>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Reynolds]

Those are both way more geared for server / VM ops than network / related.
They're not bad though.
On Mar 22, 2016 8:08 AM, "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't say that.  Zenoss/Zabbix aren't exactly old school.
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth
>> using. Most anything else is old school.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>> Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd
>> / nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can
>> do billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by
>> core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc.
>>
>> For our fiber network, it does everything  we'd want it to do including
>> monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the
>> network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc.
>>
>> I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn
>> hosts via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with
>> mrtg/cacti/nagios.
>> On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally
>>> free software that is more full featured and actively developed by large
>>> ISPs:
>>>
>>>
>>> OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large
>>> tier 1 and 2 ISPs
>>>
>>> Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly
>>> sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary
>>> non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.
>>>
>>> Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything.
>>> OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer
>>> 1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic
>>> interfaces.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
>>>> banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
>>>> customers.
>>>>
>>>> Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs
>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
>>>> supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > bad fire
>>>> >
>>>> > would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
>>>> > <li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> A number of us are cacti users.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>>>> >> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template
>>>> library
>>>> >> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> They would be expected to;
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Create templates as requested.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Update templates for new firmware.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Keep a library of all templates.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don’t know what company yet.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> What do you think?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Adam
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as
>>>> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Reynolds]

That's possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard a human being make.
Congrats! :)
On Mar 22, 2016 8:06 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> So is TCP/IP
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> They would be expected to;
>>
>>
>>
>> Create templates as requested.
>>
>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>
>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Mike Hammett]

We are.. . from IPv4 to IPv6. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:06:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 


So is TCP/IP 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Cacti is old, time to move on... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "SmarterBroadband" < li...@smarterbroadband.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 



A number of us are cacti users. 

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us? We 
would specify our template requirements. 

They would be expected to; 

Create templates as requested. 
Update templates for new firmware. 
Keep a library of all templates. 

I don’t know what company yet. 

What do you think? 

Adam 

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Baird]

I wouldn't say that.  Zenoss/Zabbix aren't exactly old school.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth
> using. Most anything else is old school.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>
> Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd /
> nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can
> do billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by
> core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc.
>
> For our fiber network, it does everything  we'd want it to do including
> monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the
> network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc.
>
> I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn
> hosts via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with
> mrtg/cacti/nagios.
> On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally
>> free software that is more full featured and actively developed by large
>> ISPs:
>>
>>
>> OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large
>> tier 1 and 2 ISPs
>>
>> Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly
>> sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary
>> non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.
>>
>> Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph
>> it.
>>
>>
>> I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything.
>> OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer
>> 1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic
>> interfaces.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
>>> banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
>>> customers.
>>>
>>> Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs
>>> use.
>>>
>>> BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
>>> supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > bad fire
>>> >
>>> > would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
>>> > <li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> A number of us are cacti users.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>>> >> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template
>>> library
>>> >> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> They would be expected to;
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Create templates as requested.
>>> >>
>>> >> Update templates for new firmware.
>>> >>
>>> >> Keep a library of all templates.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I don’t know what company yet.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> What do you think?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Adam
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>> team as
>>> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Luthman]

So is TCP/IP

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Cacti is old, time to move on...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>
> A number of us are cacti users.
>
>
>
> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>
>
>
> They would be expected to;
>
>
>
> Create templates as requested.
>
> Update templates for new firmware.
>
> Keep a library of all templates.
>
>
>
> I don’t know what company yet.
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Mike Hammett]

Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth using. 
Most anything else is old school. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 


Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd / 
nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can do 
billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by 
core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc. 
For our fiber network, it does everything we'd want it to do including 
monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the 
network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc. 
I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn hosts 
via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with 
mrtg/cacti/nagios. 
On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > wrote: 







I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally free 
software that is more full featured and actively developed by large ISPs: 


OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large tier 1 
and 2 ISPs 

Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly sized/stepped 
RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary non-NMS datasource 
via shell scripts. 

Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph it. 


I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything. OpenNMS 
handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer 1 and 2 
parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic interfaces. 





On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 


Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being 
banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding 
customers. 

Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs use. 

BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now 
supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs. 



On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
< thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> bad fire 
> 
> would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband 
> < li...@smarterbroadband.com > wrote: 
>> 
>> A number of us are cacti users. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small 
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library 
>> for us? We would specify our template requirements. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They would be expected to; 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Create templates as requested. 
>> 
>> Update templates for new firmware. 
>> 
>> Keep a library of all templates. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t know what company yet. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What do you think? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adam 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Mike Hammett]

Cacti is old, time to move on... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "SmarterBroadband"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:10:16 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll 



A number of us are cacti users. 

Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us? We 
would specify our template requirements. 

They would be expected to; 

Create templates as requested. 
Update templates for new firmware. 
Keep a library of all templates. 

I don’t know what company yet. 

What do you think? 

Adam 

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Reynolds]

Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd /
nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can
do billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by
core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc.

For our fiber network, it does everything  we'd want it to do including
monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the
network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc.

I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn
hosts via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with
mrtg/cacti/nagios.
On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

> I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally
> free software that is more full featured and actively developed by large
> ISPs:
>
>
> OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large
> tier 1 and 2 ISPs
>
> Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly
> sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary
> non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.
>
> Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph it.
>
>
> I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything.
> OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer
> 1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic
> interfaces.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
>> banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
>> customers.
>>
>> Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs
>> use.
>>
>> BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
>> supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>> > bad fire
>> >
>> > would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A number of us are cacti users.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>> >> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template
>> library
>> >> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> They would be expected to;
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Create templates as requested.
>> >>
>> >> Update templates for new firmware.
>> >>
>> >> Keep a library of all templates.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I don’t know what company yet.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What do you think?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>> team as
>> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Josh Reynolds]

Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
customers.

Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs use.

BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:
> bad fire
>
> would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
>  wrote:
>>
>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> They would be expected to;
>>
>>
>>
>> Create templates as requested.
>>
>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>
>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

bad fire

would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband <
li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:

> A number of us are cacti users.
>
>
>
> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library
> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>
>
>
> They would be expected to;
>
>
>
> Create templates as requested.
>
> Update templates for new firmware.
>
> Keep a library of all templates.
>
>
>
> I don’t know what company yet.
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Eric Kuhnke]

I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally
free software that is more full featured and actively developed by large
ISPs:


OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large
tier 1 and 2 ISPs

Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly
sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary
non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.

Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph it.


I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything.
OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer
1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic
interfaces.



On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

> Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
> banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
> customers.
>
> Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs use.
>
> BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
> supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
> > bad fire
> >
> > would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> A number of us are cacti users.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
> >> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template
> library
> >> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> They would be expected to;
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Create templates as requested.
> >>
> >> Update templates for new firmware.
> >>
> >> Keep a library of all templates.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don’t know what company yet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as
> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[D. Ryan Spott]

I have quite a bit of experience with cacti and other monitoring systems. 

I would've glad to host both templates and an external cacti, nagios or other 
monitoring service for folks. 

ryan

-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

> On Mar 18, 2016, at 11:10, SmarterBroadband  
> wrote:
> 
> A number of us are cacti users.
>  
> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small monthly 
> fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template library for us?  We 
> would specify our template requirements.
>  
> They would be expected to;
>  
> Create templates as requested.
> Update templates for new firmware.
> Keep a library of all templates.
>  
> I don’t know what company yet.
>  
> What do you think?
>  
> Adam
>  
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[David]

I do like the idea of a paid support for maintaining a library of 
templates for WISPS.
I only need two libraries to be concerned with Cambium and Mikrotik and 
thats it.

 If I had more time I would jump back into development for cacti.
I guess I could keep a site with a categorized set of templates for what 
I have


The one thing I want cacti to do is group host and load that group 
filter as a default view and we can choose what default group we want it 
to be.
For example: Have a group for nothing but infrastructure and another for 
subs(CPE) devices.

Then we have the standard filter for sub categories.

That is a feature I would definitely put some time into doing. I am 
trying to do some simple themes to change fonts and colors.




On 03/18/2016 04:15 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run 
totally free software that is more full featured and actively 
developed by large ISPs:



OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very 
large tier 1 and 2 ISPs


Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly 
sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any 
arbitrary non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.


Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and 
graph it.



I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything. 
OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs 
layer 1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP 
traffic interfaces.




On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds > wrote:


Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
customers.

Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and
MSPs use.

BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> wrote:
> bad fire
>
> would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
> >
wrote:
>>
>> A number of us are cacti users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a
small
>> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti
template library
>> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> They would be expected to;
>>
>>
>>
>> Create templates as requested.
>>
>> Update templates for new firmware.
>>
>> Keep a library of all templates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know what company yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
your team as
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

[Eric Kuhnke]

It is a good idea, but there is such a wide variety of devices now, that
I've found it's better to teach myself how to create a new cacti host
template based on a numeric snmpwalk of a new device. In this case I'm
talking about a crucial set of 6 to 10 individual OIDs for a radio such as
RSL level, Tx power, input DC voltage, current modulation level.

It takes about one hour to two hours max. The major bottleneck is getting
an accurate, verbose text description from each vendor of what each numeric
OID in your snmpwalk represents, and things like its maximum and minimum
possible integer ranges. After you've got that, creating the host template
is easy.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:00 PM, David  wrote:

> I do like the idea of a paid support for maintaining a library of
> templates for WISPS.
> I only need two libraries to be concerned with Cambium and Mikrotik and
> thats it.
>  If I had more time I would jump back into development for cacti.
> I guess I could keep a site with a categorized set of templates for what I
> have
>
> The one thing I want cacti to do is group host and load that group filter
> as a default view and we can choose what default group we want it to be.
> For example: Have a group for nothing but infrastructure and another for
> subs(CPE) devices.
> Then we have the standard filter for sub categories.
>
> That is a feature I would definitely put some time into doing. I am trying
> to do some simple themes to change fonts and colors.
>
>
>
> On 03/18/2016 04:15 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally
> free software that is more full featured and actively developed by large
> ISPs:
>
>
> OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large
> tier 1 and 2 ISPs
>
> Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly
> sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary
> non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.
>
> Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph it.
>
>
> I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything.
> OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer
> 1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic
> interfaces.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
>> banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
>> customers.
>>
>> Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs
>> use.
>>
>> BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
>> supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>> > bad fire
>> >
>> > would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A number of us are cacti users.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>> >> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template
>> library
>> >> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> They would be expected to;
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Create templates as requested.
>> >>
>> >> Update templates for new firmware.
>> >>
>> >> Keep a library of all templates.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I don’t know what company yet.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What do you think?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>> team as
>> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>