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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-02-28 Thread Josh Luthman

We've generally done one SSID with success.

At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
wrote:

> I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
> home owner installing AP though out the house.
>
> Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
> house.  I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
> these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
>
> Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
> or name them differently.  Any pro's or con's either way?
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-02-28 Thread TJ Trout

Only set the same ssid if they are all ubnt devices and then enable the
minimum signal level to like -80 so it will kick them off and force them to
roam to another ap. Otherwise you end up connected to the ap with the least
signal while sitting right next to a different ap. If not then you need to
just name them all differently. This still won't solve that issue but if
you educate the customer they can manually switch aps. Best solution is
mesh or unifi or minimum a ap that will disconnect the client at a set
signal like ubiquiti
On Feb 28, 2015 5:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> We've generally done one SSID with success.
>
> At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
>
>> I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
>> home owner installing AP though out the house.
>>
>> Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
>> house.  I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
>> these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
>>
>> Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
>> or name them differently.  Any pro's or con's either way?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-02-28 Thread Glen Waldrop

I usually set them all the same, otherwise people can't seem to figure it out.

Using Linksys and range extenders are generally seemless. Using whatever
happens to be there may be a pain in the butt.

I use hardware I choose or I walk away. I've tried to do it with cobbled
together stuff and I won't do it anymore.

- Original Message -
From: TJ Trout
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

Only set the same ssid if they are all ubnt devices and then enable the
minimum signal level to like -80 so it will kick them off and force them to
roam to another ap. Otherwise you end up connected to the ap with the least
signal while sitting right next to a different ap. If not then you need to just
name them all differently. This still won't solve that issue but if you educate
the customer they can manually switch aps. Best solution is mesh or unifi or
minimum a ap that will disconnect the client at a set signal like ubiquiti

On Feb 28, 2015 5:39 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote:

We've generally done one SSID with success.

At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
wrote:

I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.

Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?

--
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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-02-28 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

TJ,

Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what
Mikrotik has.  Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use.
We'll see how that goes.

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Saturday, February 28, 2015, 9:17:07 PM, you wrote:

TT> Only set the same ssid if they are all ubnt devices and then
TT> enable the minimum signal level to like -80 so it will kick them
TT> off and force them to roam to another ap. Otherwise you end up
TT> connected to the ap with the least signal while sitting right next
TT> to a different ap. If not then you need to just name them all
TT> differently. This still won't solve that issue but if you educate
TT> the customer they can manually switch aps. Best solution is mesh
TT> or unifi or minimum a ap that will disconnect the client at a set
TT> signal like ubiquiti 

TT> On Feb 28, 2015 5:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"
TT>  wrote:
TT> We've generally done one SSID with success.

TT> At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.

TT> Josh Luthman
TT> Office: 937-552-2340
TT> Direct: 937-552-2343
TT> 1100 Wayne St
TT> Suite 1337
TT> Troy, OH 45373

TT> On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"  
wrote:
TT> I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
TT> home owner installing AP though out the house.

TT> Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
TT> house.ï¿œ I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
TT> these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

TT> Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
TT> or name them differently.ï¿œ Any pro's or con's either way?



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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-02-28 Thread TJ Trout

Linksys and range extenders?  Seriously?
On Feb 28, 2015 7:32 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
wrote:

> TJ,
>
> Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what
> Mikrotik has.  Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use.
> We'll see how that goes.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
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> Saturday, February 28, 2015, 9:17:07 PM, you wrote:
>
> TT> Only set the same ssid if they are all ubnt devices and then
> TT> enable the minimum signal level to like -80 so it will kick them
> TT> off and force them to roam to another ap. Otherwise you end up
> TT> connected to the ap with the least signal while sitting right next
> TT> to a different ap. If not then you need to just name them all
> TT> differently. This still won't solve that issue but if you educate
> TT> the customer they can manually switch aps. Best solution is mesh
> TT> or unifi or minimum a ap that will disconnect the client at a set
> TT> signal like ubiquiti
>
> TT> On Feb 28, 2015 5:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"
> TT>  wrote:
> TT> We've generally done one SSID with success.
>
> TT> At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.
>
> TT> Josh Luthman
> TT> Office: 937-552-2340
> TT> Direct: 937-552-2343
> TT> 1100 Wayne St
> TT> Suite 1337
> TT> Troy, OH 45373
>
> TT> On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
> TT> I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
> TT> home owner installing AP though out the house.
>
> TT> Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
> TT> house.ï¿œ I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
> TT> these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
>
> TT> Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
> TT> or name them differently.ï¿œ Any pro's or con's either way?
>
>
>
> TT> --
> TT> Thanks,
> TT> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ mailto:
> m...@mailmt.com
>
> TT> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-02-28 Thread Glen Waldrop

I was surprised as you are. Customer got them instead of the router I told her
and I gave them a try.

You do lose bandwidth, they're just WDS repeaters, but as far as seemless
roaming Linksys got it right.

The only thing I've had that worked as well for me was WDS with MT, however,
the bandwidth issue again.

Last hotel I did I used RB411 + dbii 2.4GHz N cards if memory serves, the ones
that are no longer on the market. No WDS, ethernet to every AP, pretty good
roaming, but coverage was so good that unless you had two rooms on opposite
ends of the hotel on different floors it was never an issue. The dude's hotel
had more capacity than some of my towers, just not the feed to support it.

For the most part I've found the Linksys method to be seemless regardless of
the clients.

Just about everything I've tried that wasn't using WDS was highly dependent on
the client, so roaming was all over the map. Some would never even hiccup while
playing an MP3 over the network, others would hang on to a -95 in spite of the
same SSID having a -50 nearby. I did watch the data stream on torch to make
sure that my laptop wasn't buffering ahead.

Linksys is a consumer level setup. Works fine for User Bob's house and User Bob
can pick up replacements at Walmart.

- Original Message -
From: TJ Trout
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

Linksys and range extenders? Seriously?

On Feb 28, 2015 7:32 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" wrote:

TJ,

Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what
Mikrotik has. Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use.
We'll see how that goes.

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Saturday, February 28, 2015, 9:17:07 PM, you wrote:

TT> Only set the same ssid if they are all ubnt devices and then
TT> enable the minimum signal level to like -80 so it will kick them
TT> off and force them to roam to another ap. Otherwise you end up
TT> connected to the ap with the least signal while sitting right next
TT> to a different ap. If not then you need to just name them all
TT> differently. This still won't solve that issue but if you educate
TT> the customer they can manually switch aps. Best solution is mesh
TT> or unifi or minimum a ap that will disconnect the client at a set
TT> signal like ubiquiti

TT> On Feb 28, 2015 5:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"
TT> wrote:
TT> We've generally done one SSID with success.

TT> At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.

TT> Josh Luthman
TT> Office: 937-552-2340
TT> Direct: 937-552-2343
TT> 1100 Wayne St
TT> Suite 1337
TT> Troy, OH 45373

TT> On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
wrote:
TT> I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
TT> home owner installing AP though out the house.

TT> Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
TT> house.ï¿œ I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
TT> these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

TT> Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
TT> or name them differently.ï¿œ Any pro's or con's either way?

TT> --
TT> Thanks,
TT> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TT> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TT> www.MyakkaTech.com

TT> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
TT> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Glen,

i'm not using wds, all ap's are hardwired back to main router.

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Sunday, March 1, 2015, 12:59:52 AM, you wrote:

GW> ?I was surprised as you are. Customer got them instead of the
GW> router I told her and I gave them a try.

GW> You do lose bandwidth, they're just WDS repeaters, but as far
GW> as seemless roaming Linksys got it right.

GW> The only thing I've had that worked as well for me was WDS
GW> with MT, however, the bandwidth issue again.

GW> Last hotel I did I used RB411 + dbii 2.4GHz N cards if memory
GW> serves, the ones that are no longer on the market. No WDS,
GW> ethernet to every AP, pretty good roaming, but coverage was so
GW> good that unless you had two rooms on opposite ends of the hotel
GW> on different floors it was never an issue. The dude's hotel had
GW> more capacity than some of my towers, just not the feed to support
GW> it.

GW> For the most part I've found the Linksys method to be
GW> seemless regardless of the clients. 
GW> ï¿œ
GW> Just about everything I've tried that wasn't using WDS was
GW> highly dependent on the client, so roaming was all over the map.
GW> Some would never even hiccup while playing an MP3 over the
GW> network, others would hang on to a -95 in spite of the same SSID
GW> having a -50 nearby. I did watch the data stream on torch to make
GW> sure that my laptop wasn't buffering ahead.

GW> Linksys is a consumer level setup. Works fine for User Bob's
GW> house and User Bob can pick up replacements at Walmart.
GW> ï¿œ
GW> ï¿œ
GW> ï¿œ
  
GW> ----- Original Message ----- 
  
GW> From:  TJ Trout
  
GW> To:af@afmug.com
  
GW> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:34   PM
  
GW> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in   house
  


  
GW> Linksys and range extenders?ï¿œ Seriously?

  
GW> On Feb 28, 2015 7:32 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
wrote:
  
GW> TJ,

GW> Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what
GW> Mikrotik has.ï¿œ Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use.
GW> We'll see how that goes.

GW> --
GW> Best regards,
GW> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

GW> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
GW> www.MyakkaTech.com

GW> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
GW> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

GW> Please Donate at
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GW> Saturday, February 28, 2015, 9:17:07 PM, you wrote:

TT>> Only set the same ssid if they are all ubnt devices and then
TT>> enable the minimum signal level to like -80 so it will kick them
TT>> off and force them to roam to another ap. Otherwise you end up
TT>> connected to the ap with the least signal while sitting right next
TT>> to a different ap. If not then you need to just name them all
TT>> differently. This still won't solve that issue but if you educate
TT>> the customer they can manually switch aps. Best solution is mesh
TT>> or unifi or minimum a ap that will disconnect the client at a set
TT>> signal like ubiquiti

TT>> On Feb 28, 2015 5:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"
TT>>  wrote:
TT>> We've generally done one SSID with success.

TT>> At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way 
back.

TT>> Josh Luthman
TT>> Office: 937-552-2340
TT>> Direct: 937-552-2343
TT>> 1100 Wayne St
TT>> Suite 1337
TT>> Troy, OH 45373

TT>> On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
 wrote:
TT>> I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
TT>> home owner installing AP though out the house.

TT>> Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
TT>> house.ï¿ I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
TT>> these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

TT>> Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
TT>> or name them differently.ï¿ Any pro's or con's either way?



TT>> --
TT>> Thanks,
TT>> ï¿Markï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TT>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TT>> www

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread Bill Prince

If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be named 
the same, and can do "almost" zero hand-off.


If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.

bp


On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.

Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
house.  I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
or name them differently.  Any pro's or con's either way?

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman

How is Unifi coordinated?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 1, 2015 10:20 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be named the
> same, and can do "almost" zero hand-off.
>
> If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
>
>> I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
>> home owner installing AP though out the house.
>>
>> Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
>> house.  I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
>> these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
>>
>> Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
>> or name them differently.  Any pro's or con's either way?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread Bill Prince

That's the way to do it.  I've run into so many issues trying to do 
WDS/repeater setups that I refuse to support them.  They are just 
problems wrapped in newspaper soaked in horse shit.


Separate APs hardwired back to the central router is the way.

bp


On 3/1/2015 6:21 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

Glen,

i'm not using wds, all ap's are hardwired back to main router.

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread Bill Prince

With Unifi you can set a minimum signal level, and give the whole site 
one SSID.  When a client gets to the edge of one zone, they will hand 
off. It's not quite seamless, but it ain't bad.   Way simpler for most 
customers to understand.


You do have to test the edges of the zones.

bp


On 3/1/2015 7:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


How is Unifi coordinated?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 1, 2015 10:20 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:


If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be
named the same, and can do "almost" zero hand-off.

If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.

bp


On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away
with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.

Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered
around the
house.  I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be
the same
or name them differently.  Any pro's or con's either way?

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread David Milholen


If you are using one as a router look into Capsman feature
very cool stuff


On 2/28/2015 9:32 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

TJ,

Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what
Mikrotik has.  Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use.
We'll see how that goes.



--

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread David Milholen

Mikrotik now has a feature called capsman and when used with user 
manager and radius u have a full turn key in house single point managed 
network.
I am learning to use this with 3 accounts we are turning up and the 
first one has been successful thus far. Still working out the ranges for 
different zones but

so far so good.


On 3/1/2015 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


How is Unifi coordinated?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 1, 2015 10:20 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:


If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be
named the same, and can do "almost" zero hand-off.

If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.

bp


On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away
with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.

Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered
around the
house.  I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be
the same
or name them differently.  Any pro's or con's either way?






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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett

How is it not? 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



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From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 9:23:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house 


How is Unifi coordinated? 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Mar 1, 2015 10:20 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 


If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be named the 
same, and can do "almost" zero hand-off. 

If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently. 

bp 
 

On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: 


I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the 
home owner installing AP though out the house. 

Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the 
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get 
these configured so they are not stepping on each other. 

Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same 
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

David,

looked into that.  didn't see anything about coordinating.  Looked more
like propagating settings.

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Sunday, March 1, 2015, 10:41:33 AM, you wrote:


DM>  If you are using one as a router look into Capsman feature 
DM>  very cool stuff
  
  
  
DM> On 2/28/2015 9:32 PM, Mark - Myakka  Technologies wrote:
  
  
  
DM> TJ,

DM> Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what
DM> Mikrotik has.  Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use.
DM> We'll see how that goes.

  

  
  


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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-01 Thread David Milholen

With mikrotik you have the flexibility to create your own coordination 
which is done in a few methods

using the ACL with signal checks
Placing your interfaces into a mesh or straight bridge or separate 
multiple Vaps on their own interface.
With configs like this you will have more granular control over where or 
how the traffic can be managed.


If you mean telling a client to move off an ap because its too busy and 
needs the client to move to  a
less congested AP then I do not think there is a way with mikrotik to 
implement that level of control.
 I do think that stuff like that will work its way out with typical 
802.11 protocol.


you could easily tell an ap to only connect clients within a close 
proximity its signal if it is between to main
APs. So unless the client is within a few feet of the AP it will not 
connect it should continue to stay focused
on its current AP. Tricks by turning down the power levels for this type 
of setup will help as well.




On 3/1/2015 11:15 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

David,

looked into that.  didn't see anything about coordinating.  Looked more
like propagating settings.



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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-02 Thread Sterling Jacobson

The best I’ve seen in a house so far is Apple implementation.

It’s probably the best and easiest, and the customer does it themselves.

I wired a person’s main floor from their basement, which had the Apple Time 
capsule.

His computer did 100/100 and so I put the extender in between the computer and 
the wall on the main floor.

Then is computer still did around 90+Mbps (I think the extenders are only 
100Base T FDX) and his iPhone6 did the same wirelessly at 98Mbps.

I don’t know much about Apple, so the customer, who was also not very 
technically inclined, just loaded up the Apple App on his phone, and it auto 
discovered the new extender, added it to the network topology and BAM, done.

He also had an extender on the top floor.

Easiest solution ever.

Is there anything like this for non-Apple people??



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house


We've generally done one SSID with success.

At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:
I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.

Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
house.  I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
or name them differently.  Any pro's or con's either way?



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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-02 Thread Bill Prince

The Apple extender thing is basically WDS. It works better than some,
but it's still an extender. Problem is, you can almost never tell how
good or bad the signal is between the extender and the base station.

I just have a blanket prohibition against the use of extenders. More
problems than they are worth.

On 3/2/2015 11:00 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

The best I’ve seen in a house so far is Apple implementation.

It’s probably the best and easiest, and the customer does it themselves.

I wired a person’s main floor from their basement, which had the Apple
Time capsule.

His computer did 100/100 and so I put the extender in between the
computer and the wall on the main floor.

Then is computer still did around 90+Mbps (I think the extenders are
only 100Base T FDX) and his iPhone6 did the same wirelessly at 98Mbps.

I don’t know much about Apple, so the customer, who was also not very
technically inclined, just loaded up the Apple App on his phone, and
it auto discovered the new extender, added it to the network topology
and BAM, done.

He also had an extender on the top floor.

Easiest solution ever.

Is there anything like this for non-Apple people??

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:40 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

We've generally done one SSID with success.

At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:

I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.

Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?

--
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Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
<mailto:m...@mailmt.com>

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com <http://www.MyakkaTech.com>

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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-02 Thread Eric Muehleisen

Take a look at Homeplug or BPL devices. We recently reviewed a few Homeplug
v2 adapters with WiFi. They performed quite nicely. We are using them to
extend IPTV throughout houses that can't be wired. In most cases we could
perform 4 HD multicast streams. So between 40-60mb/s.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>  The Apple extender thing is basically WDS.  It works better than some,
> but it's still an extender.  Problem is, you can almost never tell how good
> or bad the signal is between the extender and the base station.
>
> I just have a blanket prohibition against the use of extenders.  More
> problems than they are worth.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/2/2015 11:00 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>
>  The best I’ve seen in a house so far is Apple implementation.
>
>
>
> It’s probably the best and easiest, and the customer does it themselves.
>
>
>
> I wired a person’s main floor from their basement, which had the Apple
> Time capsule.
>
>
>
> His computer did 100/100 and so I put the extender in between the computer
> and the wall on the main floor.
>
>
>
> Then is computer still did around 90+Mbps (I think the extenders are only
> 100Base T FDX) and his iPhone6 did the same wirelessly at 98Mbps.
>
>
>
> I don’t know much about Apple, so the customer, who was also not very
> technically inclined, just loaded up the Apple App on his phone, and it
> auto discovered the new extender, added it to the network topology and BAM,
> done.
>
>
>
> He also had an extender on the top floor.
>
>
>
> Easiest solution ever.
>
>
>
> Is there anything like this for non-Apple people??
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:40 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
>
>
>
> We've generally done one SSID with success.
>
> At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
>
> I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
> home owner installing AP though out the house.
>
> Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
> house.  I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
> these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
>
> Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
> or name them differently.  Any pro's or con's either way?
>
>
>
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> Thanks,
>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

2015-03-02 Thread Bill Prince

I agree.

When homes do not, or can not have structured wiring, the powerline
adapters are the next best thing. They have some limitations, but beat
the tar out of using repeaters.

On 3/2/2015 2:05 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
Take a look at Homeplug or BPL devices. We recently reviewed a few
Homeplug v2 adapters with WiFi. They performed quite nicely. We are
using them to extend IPTV throughout houses that can't be wired. In
most cases we could perform 4 HD multicast streams. So between 40-60mb/s.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The Apple extender thing is basically WDS. It works better than
some, but it's still an extender. Problem is, you can almost
never tell how good or bad the signal is between the extender and
the base station.

I just have a blanket prohibition against the use of extenders.
More problems than they are worth.

On 3/2/2015 11:00 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

The best I’ve seen in a house so far is Apple implementation.

It’s probably the best and easiest, and the customer does it
themselves.

I wired a person’s main floor from their basement, which had the
Apple Time capsule.

His computer did 100/100 and so I put the extender in between the
computer and the wall on the main floor.

Then is computer still did around 90+Mbps (I think the extenders
are only 100Base T FDX) and his iPhone6 did the same wirelessly
at 98Mbps.

I don’t know much about Apple, so the customer, who was also not
very technically inclined, just loaded up the Apple App on his
phone, and it auto discovered the new extender, added it to the
network topology and BAM, done.

He also had an extender on the top floor.

Easiest solution ever.

Is there anything like this for non-Apple people??

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:40 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house

We've generally done one SSID with success.

At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way
back.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:

I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away
with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.

Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered
around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.

Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be
the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?

--
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<mailto:m...@mailmt.com>

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