Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
Jaime, How can they do that with some REAL killer horn parts? Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:47 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question or a Dirty Loop... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls1HtXQe8E Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Glad you got it figured out Paul. Sorry I was in meetings or on airplanes all day today. Yes you can power the radio directly with DC and then use the CAT5e interface for data and not the fiber interface. Or both. It's just a switch inside. Just make sure not to create a network loop or something like that :-) Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590tel:%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.commailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:08 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio. All is good. We don’t do POE at all on this. This was pre-terminated fiber and we will replace fiber in a few days. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
AFAIK yes. You may need to change the internal switch configuration to get it to do so. Mark On Dec 1, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird J Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer yet Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
Yes Sent from my Ranch Phone On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird J Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer yet Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
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Do you have their fancy POEs? I'm not sure if it does typical POE as the unit is 35 watts+ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird J Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer yet Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
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Ah the big bird ate my (xxx) ploy! Back in the mid 90's we some Cushcraft Yagi antenna pigtails get chewed by birds and water get inside them...those antennas shipped with Solectek AirLAN bridges.ended up switching many to TY-900's. Worse is when they build nests or pigeons dump on them and towers...yukk Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird J Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer yet Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
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Yes, we have their fancy POE From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question Do you have their fancy POEs? I'm not sure if it does typical POE as the unit is 35 watts+ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird ☺ Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer yet Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
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Actually, Josh, we don’t have their POE. Had to think about that. We run power separately and just had a fiber transceiver at the router area From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question Do you have their fancy POEs? I'm not sure if it does typical POE as the unit is 35 watts+ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird ☺ Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer yet Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
Did you use cat5 for your power cable? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Actually, Josh, we don’t have their POE. Had to think about that. We run power separately and just had a fiber transceiver at the router area *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question Do you have their fancy POEs? I'm not sure if it does typical POE as the unit is 35 watts+ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird J Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer yet Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
If you don't have their POEs you might as well just run a new fiber run. You can either spend all that time finding POEs and getting that set or just fix the initial problem =/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM, TJ Trout via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Did you use cat5 for your power cable? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Actually, Josh, we don’t have their POE. Had to think about that. We run power separately and just had a fiber transceiver at the router area *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question Do you have their fancy POEs? I'm not sure if it does typical POE as the unit is 35 watts+ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird J Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer yet Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
On 12/1/14, 8:59, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: If you don't have their POEs you might as well just run a new fiber run. You can either spend all that time finding POEs and getting that set or just fix the initial problem =/ You don't need it to use the Ethernet ports. The Lumina never takes POE to the radio itself, it has a separate DC input you can feed with the POE splitter or any way you feel like getting power to the radio. ~Seth
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So why would you run a cat5 cable when you can just run fiber in the same duration? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/1/14, 8:59, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: If you don't have their POEs you might as well just run a new fiber run. You can either spend all that time finding POEs and getting that set or just fix the initial problem =/ You don't need it to use the Ethernet ports. The Lumina never takes POE to the radio itself, it has a separate DC input you can feed with the POE splitter or any way you feel like getting power to the radio. ~Seth
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Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 1, 2014 1:20 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/1/14, 9:29, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: So why would you run a cat5 cable when you can just run fiber in the same duration? Install preference? ~Seth
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On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio. All is good. We don’t do POE at all on this. This was pre-terminated fiber and we will replace fiber in a few days. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth
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and set trap for birds? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio. All is good. We don’t do POE at all on this. This was pre-terminated fiber and we will replace fiber in a few days. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
Glad you got it figured out Paul. Sorry I was in meetings or on airplanes all day today. Yes you can power the radio directly with DC and then use the CAT5e interface for data and not the fiber interface. Or both. It's just a switch inside. Just make sure not to create a network loop or something like that :-) Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio. All is good. We don’t do POE at all on this. This was pre-terminated fiber and we will replace fiber in a few days. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth
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Yes, and that ! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:17 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question and set trap for birds? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio. All is good. We don’t do POE at all on this. This was pre-terminated fiber and we will replace fiber in a few days. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth
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or a Dirty Loop... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls1HtXQe8E Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Glad you got it figured out Paul. Sorry I was in meetings or on airplanes all day today. Yes you can power the radio directly with DC and then use the CAT5e interface for data and not the fiber interface. Or both. It's just a switch inside. Just make sure not to create a network loop or something like that :-) Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio. All is good. We don’t do POE at all on this. This was pre-terminated fiber and we will replace fiber in a few days. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth
