Re: [Ai] radio advise!

[P. Subramani via Ai]

thank you for your feedback, its difficult to listen to sw with lots of 
electronic noise in the surroundings
- Original Message - 
From: "sanjay via Ai" 

To: "'Share, empower &Enrich'" 
Cc: "sanjay" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] radio advise!



If you are a shortwave listener I advice you to download apps like simple
radio, tune in radio etc. Which are fairly accessible in both android and
ios devices.  Some of the countries already stopped broadcasting on
shortwave metres.  Now you don't get voice of America, ABC,  Radio Mosco 
and

many other stations in  shortwave bands.  There is no future for
conventional shortwave and medium wave radio stations.



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Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

you can get credit card on thumb impression in punjab national bank. wherein 
there is a provision of thumb ipression of visually impaired on its 
application form.


-Original Message- 
From: Rahul Bhatia via Ai

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:25 AM
To: Share, empower &Enrich
Cc: Rahul Bhatia
Subject: Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

Totaly agree with Ajay Minocha sir,
I am a customer of HDFC bank when i joined TCS i opened my salary
account over there and they are aware with my disability that time
only they gave me cheque book, debit card, fiew months back i applied
for credit card online only and without any problem i got creditcard
with in a week. though i use to signature,
there are signature guide available to make our signature perfect .



On 10/30/17, Ajay Minocha via Ai  wrote:

Hi,

I time and again urge my visually impaired friends to learn a basic
form of signature. Though thumb impression is a facility which must be
extended to everyone yet we should have a wayout from the present
situation.

I use two of them i.e. Citi and HDFC and both of them are well aware
of my blindness. All they are concerned about my ability to pay them
on time. Your blindness doesn't come into picture anywhere.

Cheers,
Ajay

On 30/10/2017, Arjun Malhotra via Ai 
wrote:

I guess banking fesility circular extends even to credit cards. I have
ICICI bank credit card. I have informed bank about my disability
however I signed the documents.

On 10/30/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai
 wrote:

In this regard, isn't there any RBI circular to the effect that credit
card can not be denied to visually impaired person? If it is there, it
must be shown to credit card issuing authorities.
I have 3 credit cards from SBI and HDFC banks, I haven't face any
issue with either of them, as they don't know I am visually impaired
person.

On 10/30/17, Yogesh J via Ai  wrote:

so sad. I applied credit card just for EMI and availle discounts. but
after our listening our friends inputs its  I think its very dificult
to get credit card.
but I never give up. sure I'll try for it just to prove blind are
eligible for credit card.

On 10/29/17, Sasidhar Babu via Ai 
wrote:

 hi all  yes  SBI  cards pvt ltd  has  not processing  applications
with thumb.  many  credit card  agents of  SBI cards  are not
accepting  applications from  visually challenged. I also  applied
for sbi   credit card.  they have  declined my credit  card
application.  I aasked  for reason  they are  saying  that  currently
we are unable  to issue  credit card for you.   it  is  very  bad
that   SBI cards PVT ltd  a subsediary  of SBI  is  not  approving and
 issuing  credit cards  with thumb   for  prospective  visually
impaired  customers. when  I speak about   this  with a agent  of  SBI
card  he said  that you can  apply  with others  sign  but   don't
 say that  you are  blind  when  you received  verification  call.
thenone  agent  has  taken  application  from  me  that is  not
processed  because of  higher authority of  that agent  has rejected.
however  one agent  has  send  my application  with  thumb  she got
scoldings  from their  higher  authorities. finally  they have
declined  my application  without  saying  any valid  reason. I had
very  bad experience  with SBI cards PVTLTD.  then   I stopped  trying
for credit card with other  companys.  please  suggest me   is  there
anybuddy  got credit card  with thumb.   I don't  use  credit  cards
much   but  I need  credit  card  for  a financial  status and  to
avail  certain  discounts.  and  I may  use them  in emergency
situations.

On 29/10/2017, sheik mohammedali via Ai
 wrote:

Sorry international transactions I meant

Sent from my iPhone


On 29-Oct-2017, at 8:10 AM, Chirag Mittal via Ai
 wrote:

Dear Yogesh,
I strictly advise u to drop idea of purchasing credit card because
God
has send we guys to spread the message of love and happiness in
world.
We have to show the world that despite being  of so much
difficulties,
when we can live life with comfort,dignity and with happiness why
can't you. Credit card will trap you in debt trap and you will not
be
in position to avail services of assistant and develop habit of
misery
on essential things that are require specially for we guys. So,
please
instead of taking credit card, save money , spend it in prudent way.


 On 10/28/17, Yogesh J via Ai 
wrote:
hai friends.
I am yogesh from tamilnadu.
last month I applied sbi credit card.
they were completed all process and I got 3 verification calls.
but finaly my aplication was rejected.
in my side everything is fine.
I put thump impression in all documents like pan aadhar.so I put it
in
my credit card aplication also.
is it possible to get a credit card for thump impression
candidates?
kindly give your comments

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God?

with love and regards
yogesh J
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india post
tenkasi head office
phone: 7811071227
skype: romio.yoge

Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

[Yogesh J via Ai]

I agree with ajay bro and rahul bro.
but as a visually impaired I can't see my signature then why I have to sign?
what is the problem to accept thump impression applicant

On 10/31/17, Rahul Bhatia via Ai  wrote:
> Totaly agree with Ajay Minocha sir,
> I am a customer of HDFC bank when i joined TCS i opened my salary
> account over there and they are aware with my disability that time
> only they gave me cheque book, debit card, fiew months back i applied
> for credit card online only and without any problem i got creditcard
> with in a week. though i use to signature,
> there are signature guide available to make our signature perfect .
>
>
>
> On 10/30/17, Ajay Minocha via Ai 
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I time and again urge my visually impaired friends to learn a basic
>> form of signature. Though thumb impression is a facility which must be
>> extended to everyone yet we should have a wayout from the present
>> situation.
>>
>> I use two of them i.e. Citi and HDFC and both of them are well aware
>> of my blindness. All they are concerned about my ability to pay them
>> on time. Your blindness doesn't come into picture anywhere.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ajay
>>
>> On 30/10/2017, Arjun Malhotra via Ai 
>> wrote:
>>> I guess banking fesility circular extends even to credit cards. I have
>>> ICICI bank credit card. I have informed bank about my disability
>>> however I signed the documents.
>>>
>>> On 10/30/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai
>>>  wrote:
 In this regard, isn't there any RBI circular to the effect that credit
 card can not be denied to visually impaired person? If it is there, it
 must be shown to credit card issuing authorities.
 I have 3 credit cards from SBI and HDFC banks, I haven't face any
 issue with either of them, as they don't know I am visually impaired
 person.

 On 10/30/17, Yogesh J via Ai 
 wrote:
> so sad. I applied credit card just for EMI and availle discounts. but
> after our listening our friends inputs its  I think its very dificult
> to get credit card.
> but I never give up. sure I'll try for it just to prove blind are
> eligible for credit card.
>
> On 10/29/17, Sasidhar Babu via Ai 
> wrote:
>>  hi all  yes  SBI  cards pvt ltd  has  not processing  applications
>> with thumb.  many  credit card  agents of  SBI cards  are not
>> accepting  applications from  visually challenged. I also  applied
>> for sbi   credit card.  they have  declined my credit  card
>> application.  I aasked  for reason  they are  saying  that  currently
>> we are unable  to issue  credit card for you.   it  is  very  bad
>> that   SBI cards PVT ltd  a subsediary  of SBI  is  not  approving
>> and
>>  issuing  credit cards  with thumb   for  prospective  visually
>> impaired  customers. when  I speak about   this  with a agent  of
>> SBI
>> card  he said  that you can  apply  with others  sign  but
>> don't
>>  say that  you are  blind  when  you received  verification  call.
>> thenone  agent  has  taken  application  from  me  that is  not
>> processed  because of  higher authority of  that agent  has rejected.
>> however  one agent  has  send  my application  with  thumb  she got
>> scoldings  from their  higher  authorities. finally  they have
>> declined  my application  without  saying  any valid  reason. I had
>> very  bad experience  with SBI cards PVTLTD.  then   I stopped
>> trying
>> for credit card with other  companys.  please  suggest me   is  there
>> anybuddy  got credit card  with thumb.   I don't  use  credit  cards
>> much   but  I need  credit  card  for  a financial  status and  to
>> avail  certain  discounts.  and  I may  use them  in emergency
>> situations.
>>
>> On 29/10/2017, sheik mohammedali via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>> Sorry international transactions I meant
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On 29-Oct-2017, at 8:10 AM, Chirag Mittal via Ai
  wrote:

 Dear Yogesh,
 I strictly advise u to drop idea of purchasing credit card because
 God
 has send we guys to spread the message of love and happiness in
 world.
 We have to show the world that despite being  of so much
 difficulties,
 when we can live life with comfort,dignity and with happiness why
 can't you. Credit card will trap you in debt trap and you will not
 be
 in position to avail services of assistant and develop habit of
 misery
 on essential things that are require specially for we guys. So,
 please
 instead of taking credit card, save money , spend it in prudent
 way.

>  On 10/28/17, Yogesh J via Ai 
> wrote:
> hai friends.
> I am yogesh from tamilnadu.
> last month I applied sbi credit card.
> they were completed all proc

[Ai] Those who missed it earlier: Read on: "The Manipur initiative: Education and freedom at a school for children with disability"

[avinash shahi via Ai]

The Manipur initiative: Education and freedom at a school for children
with disability
 November 12, 2016 16:25 IST
Updated:  December 02, 2016 15:07 IST
http://www.thehindu.com/features/magazine/The-Manipur-initiative-Education-and-freedom-at-a-school-for-children-with-disability/article16443835.ece
With imagination and heart, this school shows how to make the
participation of children with disabilities not an exception but the
rule


“My attitude is based on how you treat me,” reads a sticker outside
the school’s braille room. Inside, Pau, the braille instructor, and
his student, Elizabeth, both visually impaired, are spelling numbers.
Elizabeth reads aloud, “One Zero - Ten; Two Zero - Sixty!” Pau adjusts
the braille card and asks her to try again. At this, teachers next
door break into affectionate laughter, aware that Elizabeth, who
occasionally teases Pau, would soon give the right answer.

Across the airy corridor, in the physiotherapy room, Tina, a
five-year-old with cerebral palsy, is working on her balance. “Give me
a high five, Tina,” smiles Angie, the physiotherapist. Tina delights
at the clap of their palms, while balancing herself on her knees. It
is a weekly session that Tina refuses to miss, even if unwell.

In other classrooms, Tina’s friends are spelling alphabets into a
wooden mud-tray or learning nursery rhymes in sign language. Outdoors,
a group of children have encircled their favourite teacher, Thang.
They hug him, tug at his shirt and giggle naughtily as he jokes with
them.

Elizabeth, Tina and their friends are students at The Malsawm
Initiative, a school for children with disabilities in the tribal
district of Churachandpur, 60 km south of Manipur’s capital city,
Imphal. The school brings together children with various categories of
disabilities — be it autism, cerebral palsy, Hydrocephalus, Down’s
syndrome, hearing, visual and locomotor impairments.

For the current batch of 30 children, aged five to 14, who until a few
years ago were leading an overprotected and isolated life at home, the
school is a space with a promise of freedom — to learn, think, play,
make mistakes and not be judged. It combines education and therapeutic
care (physiotherapy, speech therapy and mobility training) such that
the children can develop their cognitive, communication, social and
daily living skills.

Dondouching and Pauzagin Tonsing founded the school in 2011, after a
six-year-long struggle to find a school where their son Malsawm could
study. A handsome boy with a sharp ear for music, Malsawm lost his
eyesight in 2005 to Optic Nerve Atrophy, a condition that impairs the
optic nerve.

“We thought if our son goes to school, he would start learning the
basics and his social skills would improve. But he was not learning
anything — the special schools in the town had more holidays than
working days and the teachers at the private school he attended were
clueless but too polite to kick him out,” says Malsawm’s mother,
Dondouching, who actually feels sorry for the teachers. “He needed
time and thought, but the teachers were only baby-sitting him; they
wanted to help but could not.”

Dejected, the couple pulled Malsawm out of school, enrolled themselves
for a distance-learning Bachelor of Education (B.Ed.) programme and
began meeting other parents. “At first the parents were reluctant and
ashamed to meet us since talking about disability was a taboo here,”
says Pauzagin, founder of the Churachandpur-based Centre for Community
Initiative (the parent organisation that set up the school). Pauzagin
discovered that most parents and caregivers had been living with a
sense of guilt, having internalised the social stigma associated with
birthing or raising a child with disability.

This changed with frequent meetings, where parents shed their
discomfort and formed a group to advocate for the rights of persons
with disabilities. This was before an educationist known for his love
of playgrounds for children, offered the couple a portion of his
school’s land for free. In response, the couple and parents of
fourteen other children, pooled in their faith and imagination to set
up The Malsawm Initiative (which initially was a one-room thatch and
bamboo structure, and today, is a yellow and red building amidst a
green thicket on a low-lying hill slope).

In the life of the school, the parents or caregivers of children with
disabilities have always played a pivotal role. Once, when a landslide
blocked roads around the school, parents and teachers formed a human
chain and cleared the rubble. Dondouching explains, “Children spend
the maximum time with their families. So we expect the caregivers to
be fully involved. We also encourage siblings to volunteer at the
school so that they can observe and learn from the teachers.”

At the same time, and in the absence of any state support for
disability-specific education, rehabilitation or information services,
the staff at the school is sensitive to the caregivers’ personal
circ

[Ai] Court Observation: "Supreme Court suggests special schools and teachers for children with special needs"

[avinash shahi via Ai]

I feel SC's observation is very critical cause it has specified the
categories of disability groups who have their distinct needs.
Thankfully it has not clubbed all categories as children with
disabilities as one unit where one or two types of disabilities  enjoy
privileges and the rest remain on the margins. And the disability
sector needs to learn lesson from the observation. We should certainly
think whether 5 years old children with blindness/mental
disabilities/defness/autism are served better in 'inclusive schools'
in India? And when I say India it means delhi comes last in my
thoughts, you know. Census what if erroneous, informs us that around
69 per cent of people with disabilities reside in the villages.
Majority of so called inclusive schools are located in the faraway
hinterland and they lack basic physical infrastructure let alone
mindset. do we have classes in sign-language? Do all teachers of
different subjects know Braille? Do teachers and the non-teaching
staff understand what is autism and how to cater to the needs of those
children? I'm not talking about the peer mates whose ceaseless taunts
and disability slurs go unnoticed and perpetuated inside the campus of
'inclusive set up which leaves one traumatised for the entire life.
how many decades will it take to bring about sensitization. And why
the current generation of kids should suffer due to enapt teachers?
Why children with different disabilities should spend extra hours in
the so called 'inclusive school'?  Why don't the children with
disabilities not encouraged to play sports in general in 'inclusive
schools'?for example, what if one 'inclusive school has only one blind
kid will she/he be able to play football or cricket with other class
mates? How his/her mobility needs will be catered to? legal and
ethical questions need to be brainstormed before reaching to a hasty
conclusion that schools which are pre-occupied with enrolment and
offer least substantive inclusion are the way forward. The debate over
inclusive vs specialized schools is too old to start it again. I
however welcome SC's observation which has sent a wave of uneasiness
among the propaganda machine of a particular ilk.


PTI
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/sc-moots-special-schools-and-teachers-for-special-children/article19949980.ece
 NEW DELHI:, October 30, 2017 17:52 IST
Updated:  October 30, 2017 18:10 IST
Deems it ‘impossible’ that those who have autism, blindness and
deafness can be taught along with normal children

The Supreme Court has questioned the lack of separate schools and
distinctly trained teachers for students who suffer from autism,
blindness and deafness.

The apex court observed that it is “impossible to think” that
children, who are disabled or suffer from any kind of disability or
are mentally challenged, can be imparted education in mainstream
schools along with normal children.



A Bench, comprising Chief Justice Dipak Misra and Justices A.M.
Khanwilkar and D.Y. Chandrachud, said that access to education has now
been regarded as a fundamental right under Article 21A and there was a
statutory obligation on the States to provide education under the
Rights of Children to Free and Compulsary Education Act, 2009.

Treat them as special

“We are of the prima facie view that the children with special needs
have to be imparted education not only by special teachers but there
have to be special schools for them,” the Bench said.

It asked the Uttar Pradesh government to file an affidavit keeping its
observation in mind in four weeks and specify when the State is going
to meet the obligation. It listed the matter for further hearing on
November 27.

“When we say ‘disability’, we do not mean ‘disability’ as has been
defined in the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016. The
Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016 includes certain
physical disabilities which may not be a warrant for getting admission
in special schools,” the bench said.

Emphasising the need for a separate system, the court said: “The
students who suffer from blindness, deafness and autism or such types
of disorder may be required to have separate schools with distinctly
trained teachers.”

The Bench was hearing a plea filed by Rajneesh Kumar Pandey through
advocate Prashant Shukla, claiming lack of sufficient number of
special educators in Uttar Pradesh and other States to teach the
children with special needs.

‘UP already on it’

Additional Advocate General Aishwarya Bhati appearing for Uttar
Pradesh said the State was committed to imparting education to the
children with special needs.

She said the State had already commenced the procedure for engaging
12,000 teachers, of whom some would be teachers for such special
children.

Counsel for Centre said that under the new integrated education
scheme, special children were being taught along with normal children.

The Ministry of Human Resource Development and the UP government
claimed that children wi

Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

[Rahul Bhatia via Ai]

Totaly agree with Ajay Minocha sir,
I am a customer of HDFC bank when i joined TCS i opened my salary
account over there and they are aware with my disability that time
only they gave me cheque book, debit card, fiew months back i applied
for credit card online only and without any problem i got creditcard
with in a week. though i use to signature,
there are signature guide available to make our signature perfect .



On 10/30/17, Ajay Minocha via Ai  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I time and again urge my visually impaired friends to learn a basic
> form of signature. Though thumb impression is a facility which must be
> extended to everyone yet we should have a wayout from the present
> situation.
>
> I use two of them i.e. Citi and HDFC and both of them are well aware
> of my blindness. All they are concerned about my ability to pay them
> on time. Your blindness doesn't come into picture anywhere.
>
> Cheers,
> Ajay
>
> On 30/10/2017, Arjun Malhotra via Ai 
> wrote:
>> I guess banking fesility circular extends even to credit cards. I have
>> ICICI bank credit card. I have informed bank about my disability
>> however I signed the documents.
>>
>> On 10/30/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>> In this regard, isn't there any RBI circular to the effect that credit
>>> card can not be denied to visually impaired person? If it is there, it
>>> must be shown to credit card issuing authorities.
>>> I have 3 credit cards from SBI and HDFC banks, I haven't face any
>>> issue with either of them, as they don't know I am visually impaired
>>> person.
>>>
>>> On 10/30/17, Yogesh J via Ai  wrote:
 so sad. I applied credit card just for EMI and availle discounts. but
 after our listening our friends inputs its  I think its very dificult
 to get credit card.
 but I never give up. sure I'll try for it just to prove blind are
 eligible for credit card.

 On 10/29/17, Sasidhar Babu via Ai 
 wrote:
>  hi all  yes  SBI  cards pvt ltd  has  not processing  applications
> with thumb.  many  credit card  agents of  SBI cards  are not
> accepting  applications from  visually challenged. I also  applied
> for sbi   credit card.  they have  declined my credit  card
> application.  I aasked  for reason  they are  saying  that  currently
> we are unable  to issue  credit card for you.   it  is  very  bad
> that   SBI cards PVT ltd  a subsediary  of SBI  is  not  approving and
>  issuing  credit cards  with thumb   for  prospective  visually
> impaired  customers. when  I speak about   this  with a agent  of  SBI
> card  he said  that you can  apply  with others  sign  but   don't
>  say that  you are  blind  when  you received  verification  call.
> thenone  agent  has  taken  application  from  me  that is  not
> processed  because of  higher authority of  that agent  has rejected.
> however  one agent  has  send  my application  with  thumb  she got
> scoldings  from their  higher  authorities. finally  they have
> declined  my application  without  saying  any valid  reason. I had
> very  bad experience  with SBI cards PVTLTD.  then   I stopped  trying
> for credit card with other  companys.  please  suggest me   is  there
> anybuddy  got credit card  with thumb.   I don't  use  credit  cards
> much   but  I need  credit  card  for  a financial  status and  to
> avail  certain  discounts.  and  I may  use them  in emergency
> situations.
>
> On 29/10/2017, sheik mohammedali via Ai
>  wrote:
>> Sorry international transactions I meant
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 29-Oct-2017, at 8:10 AM, Chirag Mittal via Ai
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Yogesh,
>>> I strictly advise u to drop idea of purchasing credit card because
>>> God
>>> has send we guys to spread the message of love and happiness in
>>> world.
>>> We have to show the world that despite being  of so much
>>> difficulties,
>>> when we can live life with comfort,dignity and with happiness why
>>> can't you. Credit card will trap you in debt trap and you will not
>>> be
>>> in position to avail services of assistant and develop habit of
>>> misery
>>> on essential things that are require specially for we guys. So,
>>> please
>>> instead of taking credit card, save money , spend it in prudent way.
>>>
  On 10/28/17, Yogesh J via Ai 
 wrote:
 hai friends.
 I am yogesh from tamilnadu.
 last month I applied sbi credit card.
 they were completed all process and I got 3 verification calls.
 but finaly my aplication was rejected.
 in my side everything is fine.
 I put thump impression in all documents like pan aadhar.so I put it
 in
 my credit card aplication also.
 is it possible to get a credit card for thump impression
 candidates?
 kindly give yo

Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[Ajay Minocha via Ai]

Hi All,

It was similar to what you must have experienced in the stores across
the country. I had booked the slot in advance as I was advised to do
so.
The staff was very polite and helpful and assisted me to the best of
their capabilities. I did have couple of suggestions which were
welcomed by them through the feedback form.
1. I have a right to privacy even if I am a shopper with disability. I
don't need more than one assistant  at one point of time. My shopping
list should only be seen by my assistant
2. Feedback should be captured by online survey platforms and
shouldn't be paper-based.
3. Considering that many of us might have sensitive items in our lists
at times, it becomes preferable to have the assistant of same gender
especially in case of female shoppers.

All in all, I would surely want to see it becoming a permanent feature
of all the BigBazar stores.

Regards,
Ajay

On 30/10/2017, Fatema Rangwala via Ai
 wrote:
> great iniciative indeed. waiting to have experience in Surat
>
> On 10/30/17, gatak singh via Ai  wrote:
>> I will consider visiting bib bazar mall in bangalore. this is a
>> wonderful initiative. thanks.
>>
>> On 10/27/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> A beginning of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores!
>>> And you are invited for a soft launch on 29th, 30th and 31st October!
>>>
>>> Blind Graduates Forum of India had approached Future Group to make
>>> shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores accessible for persons with
>>> disabilities. We were delighted when we heard from Vineet Kumar
>>> Saraiwala who took this up with his CEO and the Big Bazaar team and
>>> lead the initiative after a lot of effort! fruitful discussions for
>>> long has led to the culmination of a great initiative from Big Bazaar.
>>> With great enthusiasm, Big Bazaar has planned a PWD listening session
>>> in 105 stores within 17 cities. The intention is to take feedback from
>>> Persons with Speech/Hearing Disability and Persons with Visual
>>> Disabilities on their shopping needs and providing them an enhanced
>>> customer experience. Big Bazaar will extend the services for Persons
>>> with other disabilities shortly because infrastructure changes are
>>> currently underway and the invite will be extended once it's fully
>>> ready.
>>> soft Launch is a 3 day affair (29-31st October) and a lot of surprises
>>> are underway. No other consumer Brand in India has ever done something
>>> like this in such a scale. More details are provided below. So,  let’s
>>> visit Big Bazaar stores to help them learn how to assist us better.
>>>
>>> Come, visit the Big Bazaar stores and experience accessible shopping.
>>> We want you to be independent in every sphere,whether its selecting
>>> clothes,buying groceries,Gifting to a friend or celebrating occasions.
>>> We have the largest assortment across Food,Fashion and Home and would
>>> like you to experience our rich offerings. We want Persons with Visual
>>> and hearing impairment to experience everything in close coordination
>>> with our Trained shopping assistants.
>>>
>>> We have not perfected this but are learning. The purpose of inviting
>>> you is to learn from you and improve our services. We invite you to
>>> shop
>>> in Big Bazaar and rate our services on 29th, 30th and 31st October.
>>> Please spread this word across the 17 launch cities. List of cities
>>> along with address of  105 stores is provided below.
>>>
>>>  The key features are:
>>>
>>> 1. Store Accessibility on Google maps- All Big Bazaar stores are
>>> available on Google Maps and will greatly help a persons with Visual
>>> Disability to shop.
>>> 2. Shopping Assistant-This is the most prominent feature at our store
>>> where our visually and hearing challenged visitors can avail shopping
>>> assistantwho would be like his friend-helping him find product,
>>> recommend him clothes, Navigate the store section  & help him in
>>> Billing wherever required. The Shopping Assistant is trained on how to
>>> communicate with people with visual or hearing impairment and has a
>>> basic understanding of their needs.
>>>
>>> 3. Priority Counter-All Big Bazaar stores have a dedicated priority
>>> Counter for Persons with Disabilities (PWD) for easy billing.
>>> 4. Trained Staff-All Key touch points from the security to the cashier
>>> to the customer sea Desk, All have been trained on how to handle
>>> Person withvisual or hearing impairment. We also have an Accessibility
>>> champion in every store who would handle any queries related to our
>>> visually or hearing challenged visitors.
>>> 5. Special Assistance: Use the below link to prebook a shopping
>>> Assistant, Wheel chair and even request assistance in reaching the
>>> store from the mall's entrance. This feature gives relief to millions
>>> of blind/Deaf user across the country who might require any kind of
>>> navigational assistance. This is a closed link and can be accessed
>>>

Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

[Ajay Minocha via Ai]

Hi,

I time and again urge my visually impaired friends to learn a basic
form of signature. Though thumb impression is a facility which must be
extended to everyone yet we should have a wayout from the present
situation.

I use two of them i.e. Citi and HDFC and both of them are well aware
of my blindness. All they are concerned about my ability to pay them
on time. Your blindness doesn't come into picture anywhere.

Cheers,
Ajay

On 30/10/2017, Arjun Malhotra via Ai  wrote:
> I guess banking fesility circular extends even to credit cards. I have
> ICICI bank credit card. I have informed bank about my disability
> however I signed the documents.
>
> On 10/30/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai
>  wrote:
>> In this regard, isn't there any RBI circular to the effect that credit
>> card can not be denied to visually impaired person? If it is there, it
>> must be shown to credit card issuing authorities.
>> I have 3 credit cards from SBI and HDFC banks, I haven't face any
>> issue with either of them, as they don't know I am visually impaired
>> person.
>>
>> On 10/30/17, Yogesh J via Ai  wrote:
>>> so sad. I applied credit card just for EMI and availle discounts. but
>>> after our listening our friends inputs its  I think its very dificult
>>> to get credit card.
>>> but I never give up. sure I'll try for it just to prove blind are
>>> eligible for credit card.
>>>
>>> On 10/29/17, Sasidhar Babu via Ai 
>>> wrote:
  hi all  yes  SBI  cards pvt ltd  has  not processing  applications
 with thumb.  many  credit card  agents of  SBI cards  are not
 accepting  applications from  visually challenged. I also  applied
 for sbi   credit card.  they have  declined my credit  card
 application.  I aasked  for reason  they are  saying  that  currently
 we are unable  to issue  credit card for you.   it  is  very  bad
 that   SBI cards PVT ltd  a subsediary  of SBI  is  not  approving and
  issuing  credit cards  with thumb   for  prospective  visually
 impaired  customers. when  I speak about   this  with a agent  of  SBI
 card  he said  that you can  apply  with others  sign  but   don't
  say that  you are  blind  when  you received  verification  call.
 thenone  agent  has  taken  application  from  me  that is  not
 processed  because of  higher authority of  that agent  has rejected.
 however  one agent  has  send  my application  with  thumb  she got
 scoldings  from their  higher  authorities. finally  they have
 declined  my application  without  saying  any valid  reason. I had
 very  bad experience  with SBI cards PVTLTD.  then   I stopped  trying
 for credit card with other  companys.  please  suggest me   is  there
 anybuddy  got credit card  with thumb.   I don't  use  credit  cards
 much   but  I need  credit  card  for  a financial  status and  to
 avail  certain  discounts.  and  I may  use them  in emergency
 situations.

 On 29/10/2017, sheik mohammedali via Ai
  wrote:
> Sorry international transactions I meant
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 29-Oct-2017, at 8:10 AM, Chirag Mittal via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Dear Yogesh,
>> I strictly advise u to drop idea of purchasing credit card because
>> God
>> has send we guys to spread the message of love and happiness in
>> world.
>> We have to show the world that despite being  of so much
>> difficulties,
>> when we can live life with comfort,dignity and with happiness why
>> can't you. Credit card will trap you in debt trap and you will not be
>> in position to avail services of assistant and develop habit of
>> misery
>> on essential things that are require specially for we guys. So,
>> please
>> instead of taking credit card, save money , spend it in prudent way.
>>
>>>  On 10/28/17, Yogesh J via Ai 
>>> wrote:
>>> hai friends.
>>> I am yogesh from tamilnadu.
>>> last month I applied sbi credit card.
>>> they were completed all process and I got 3 verification calls.
>>> but finaly my aplication was rejected.
>>> in my side everything is fine.
>>> I put thump impression in all documents like pan aadhar.so I put it
>>> in
>>> my credit card aplication also.
>>> is it possible to get a credit card for thump impression candidates?
>>> kindly give your comments
>>>
>>> --
>>> If God is love, and love is blind, and I were blind, would I be God?
>>>
>>> with love and regards
>>> yogesh J
>>> postal assistant
>>> india post
>>> tenkasi head office
>>> phone: 7811071227
>>> skype: romio.yogesh
>>> facebook: yogesh yogi
>>>
>>> Emotional investments are subject to human desires. Read the person
>>> carefully before investing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Disclaimer:
>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the
>>> thinking
>>> of
>>> the
>>

Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI via Ai]

Sareen sir its very true.
Particularly present govt.
Thanks

- Original Message - 
From: "r k sarin via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "r k sarin" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not 
Think I Will Survive This Winter"



Even if you make expression in his case, there are all chances that one 
will include you in the extremist fold because this is a word which can be 
defined as per the convenience of the ruler whosoever he may be.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shireen Irani via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "Shireen Irani" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not 
Think I Will Survive This Winter"




most definitely.

But in Prof. Saibaba's case, it has become a matter of life and death.
And it is extremely saddening to see such limited support or protest
on the part of self-promoting disability activists/ advocates.

Shireen.

On 10/30/17, Asudani, Rajesh via Ai  
wrote:

Accessibility has also to be a necessary prerequisite for jails too.


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf 
Of

Shireen Irani via Ai
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:35 AM
To: disability-studies-india; Connect, share and enrich
Cc: Shireen Irani
Subject: [DKIM Failure] [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not 
Think

I Will Survive This Winter"

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any 
longer.


You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
understand my present
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
ailments. And no one
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous 
attitude.


Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
now. Till I
am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
negligence.

Lots of love

Yours

Sai


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[Ai] Moderator: off-topic: RE: [DKIM Failure] Re: [DKIM Failure] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Kotian, H P via Ai]

All
This thread continues to be closed and members choose to ignore my counsel.
Of course, all those who have responded after the final warning have been taken 
to task.
Please don't stick your neck on this thread, that is what I can reiterate.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:46 AM
To: Share, empower &Enrich 
Cc: HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: 
"I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

Sareen sir its very true.
Particularly present govt.
Thanks

- Original Message -
From: "r k sarin via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "r k sarin" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not 
Think I Will Survive This Winter"


> Even if you make expression in his case, there are all chances that
> one will include you in the extremist fold because this is a word
> which can be defined as per the convenience of the ruler whosoever he may be.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shireen Irani via Ai" 
> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
> Cc: "Shireen Irani" 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do
> Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"
>
>
>> most definitely.
>>
>> But in Prof. Saibaba's case, it has become a matter of life and death.
>> And it is extremely saddening to see such limited support or protest
>> on the part of self-promoting disability activists/ advocates.
>>
>> Shireen.
>>
>> On 10/30/17, Asudani, Rajesh via Ai
>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Accessibility has also to be a necessary prerequisite for jails too.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Shireen Irani via Ai
>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:35 AM
>>> To: disability-studies-india; Connect, share and enrich
>>> Cc: Shireen Irani
>>> Subject: [DKIM Failure] [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do
>>> Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"
>>>
>>> NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
>>> solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
>>> Disabled, he has
>>> been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
>>> sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and
>>> defended the Professor insisting that he has been persecuted by
>>> governments for raising a voice against paramilitary operations in
>>> the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of central and eastern India.
>>>
>>> The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
>>> courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
>>> multiple ailments, himself writing in this letter to his wife
>>> Vasantha that he might not be able to survive the winter months in
>>> jail. He has been convicted under the Unlawful Activities
>>> (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence describe
>>> as a travesty of justice.
>>>
>>> The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
>>> October 25. It reads as follows:
>>>
>>> Dear Vasantha
>>>
>>> I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering
>>> with continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
>>> sweater/jacket. As temperature goes down excruciating pain
>>> continuously in my legs and left hand increases. It is impossible
>>> for me to survive here during the winter that starts from November.
>>>
>>> I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
>>> months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
>>> coming winter. I am sure. It is of no use to write about my health
>>> any longer.
>>>
>>> In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
>>> of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application
>>> in the first week of November or last week of October itself. You
>>> remember if this is not done in this way, my situation will be out
>>> of hands. I am not responsible. I am making clear to you. Hereafter
>>> I am not going to write about it any longer.
>>>
>>> You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk
>>> to Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You
>>> need to hurry up.
>>>
>>> I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like
>>> a beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
>>> understand my present condition. No one understands 90% disabled
>>> person is behind bars struggling with one hand in condition and
>>> suffering with multiple ailments. And no one cares for my life. This
>>> is simply criminal negligence, a callous attitude.
>>>
>>> Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
>>> family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health
>>> for now. Til

Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai]

Dear Vineet,
I went to one Big Bazaar store today. Overall it was a good experience. 
I have written about it  on my facebook, also copying it below.
https://www.facebook.com/prashantranjan.verma.5/posts/1667190163352567  


I was extremely happy when I got the news that Big Bazaar is planning to 
provide accessible shopping experience to persons with disabilities. We being a 
visually impaired couple face difficulties on a regular basis in shopping. We 
try to fulfil our requirements through online shopping and by ordering the 
nearby shops on phone. But for many things we do need to go to stores like Big 
Bazaar. We have always wanted to take advantage of the wide variety of products 
and lower prices in Big Bazaar but inability to read the price tags and find 
the desired product on the big shopping floor stops us from going there 
regularly.

Being the chief functionary of a prominent organization for the visually 
impaired, I understand the importance of this   initiative and therefore I 
congratulate Big Bazaar for taking this step for the first time in the retail 
industry. At my organization the National Association for the Blind (Delhi), I 
interact with hundreds and thousands of visually impaired who have narrated 
their difficulties with shopping in the past. This initiative of Big Bazaar 
will in all probability push the other retail chains to follow  them and all 
this is just good news for people who have difficulties in reading, hearing, 
speech or mobility. 

I decided to just walk into the Big Bazaar store in the Ambience Mall in Vasant 
Kunj, New Delhi today to personally experience the change. I entered the Big 
Bazaar carrying a white cane from their ground floor. After a few minutes I was 
able to meet a person who seemed to be staff of Big Bazaar and I asked him to 
take me to their customer care counter. He led me to the counter and introduced 
me to the lady handling the counter. I told her that I needed assistance for 
shopping. The lady immediately called a person from her team and asked him to 
assist me. It seemed to me from their conversation that they were well aware of 
what needed to be done. They requested me to come back for filling up a short 
questionnaire after the shopping was completed.
I walked with the Big Bazaar staff holding his arm. He picked up a trolley for 
me. Another Big Bazaar staff started walking with us to help in shopping. I 
told them about all the things I needed so that they could stop at the first 
shelf that had items of my interest.  

They read out the names of the products and prices for me. Within few minutes I 
got whatever I needed. This was such a big change from my previous experiences 
when I have wasted so much time going around and around the shelves not being 
able to find my desired products. . The Big Bazaar shopping assistant helped me 
with the billing also   which was quick as well.  Then we walked to the 
customer care desk where the lady read out the small questionnaire and noted my 
response and contact details. I understand that this is a onetime survey to 
better understand the need of the disabled customers and I am happy to help out 
in it. 

My shopping experience was hassle free and actually a pleasant experience. I am 
just afraid that I will end up spending much more than my budget with this kind 
of assistance at shopping. My wife is delighted to learn about my experience 
and she can’t wait to go there with her big shopping list alone, since I am not 
as patient as her at shopping! 

I understand that for the team at Big Bazaar these are the first experiences of 
catering to customers with a difference and therefore they are also learning to 
react appropriately. The only small change I would like is to be immediately 
identified as a customer requiring assistance on entering the store since I was 
carrying a white cane. Today it happened after some time, I am sure when more 
and more people like me will go to Big Bazaar, this aspect will also improve. 

With thanks and best wishes for Big Bazaar and the person who took this 
initiative, 
Prashant Ranjan Verma  
General Secretary of National Association for the Blind (Delhi), www.nabdelhi.in



-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham via Ai
Sent: 31 October 2017 06:44
To: 'Share, empower &Enrich' 
Cc: George Abraham 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big 
Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

Will be visiting the store this morning!

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Vineet Kumar via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:11 AM
To: Share, empower &Enrich
Cc: Vineet Kumar
Subject: Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big 
Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

Thanks for your feedback
Our Team would get in touch for your feedback.
Tomorrow

Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Chirag Mittal via Ai]

Though he may have done anti national works for which he is deserving
prison punishment but how can we forget that  he is a  our differently
 able brother. We  should demand for humane punishment as per our
national,moral and huministic laws.

On 10/30/17, muruganandan.k via Ai  wrote:
> even a person who is going to be hanged deserves respectful treatment
> and a decent living condition. When murderous, corrupt and criminal
> politicians, fraudsters, anti-social elements and sexual offenders are
> allowed to walk free and enjoy all luxuries even within jails, why not
> a decent living condition for Prof. Saibaba?
> Dear friends and nationalists who want to be in the good records of
> the rulers, even in your own viewpoint, he has been sentenced only to
> life imprisonment for his "crime", not to be killed in the prison due
> to non-availability of his basic amenities.
>
> On 10/30/17, r k sarin via Ai  wrote:
>> You may say so. His case is not yet finalised and he is just languishing
>> in
>> jail. One can debate on his action but punishment without justice has no
>> meaning.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "P. Subramani via Ai" 
>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>> Cc: "P. Subramani" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
>> Survive This Winter"
>>
>>
>>> since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
>>> deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that
>>> the
>>>
>>> courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
>>> called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
>>> bearing the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
>>> piety/sympathy
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
>>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>>> Cc: "gatak singh" 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
>>> Survive This Winter"
>>>
>>>
 the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

 On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
 wrote:
> NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
> solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
> Disabled, he has
> been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
> sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
> the Professor insisting
> that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
> paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
> central and eastern
> India.
>
> The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
> courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
> multiple ailments,
> himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
> be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
> under the Unlawful
> Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
> describe as a travesty of justice.
>
> The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
> October 25. It reads as follows:
>
> Dear Vasantha
>
> I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
> continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
> sweater/jacket. As temperature
> goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
> increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
> that starts from
> November.
>
> I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
> months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
> coming winter. I am
> sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.
>
> In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
> of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
> the first week
> of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
> not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
> responsible. I am
> making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
> longer.
>
> You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
> Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
> hurry up.
>
> I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
> beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
> understand my present
> condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
> struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
> ailments. And no one
> cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
> attitude.
>
> Please take care 

Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[George Abraham via Ai]

Will be visiting the store this morning!

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Vineet Kumar via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:11 AM
To: Share, empower &Enrich
Cc: Vineet Kumar
Subject: Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big 
Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

Thanks for your feedback
Our Team would get in touch for your feedback.
Tomorrow is the last day of the soft Launch and people residing in Agra, 
Ahmedabad,Bangalore,Bhubaneshwar,Dehradun,Ranchi,Guwahati,Raipur,Hyderabad,Indore,Jaipur,Kolkatta,Mumbai,Mysore,NCR
 region,Patna,Pune Plz go and experience the service.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30-Oct-2017, at 9:04 PM, payal jethra via Ai 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Sharing my experience of shopping at Big Bazar. Happy to be part of 
> the soft launch at Mumbai. Appreciate the initiative by Future Group & 
> BGFI in putting this together.
> 
> It was a kind of last minute decision to go shopping so I wasn’t able 
> to pre-book shopping assistance online. This evening, my ten year old 
> and I  stepped into Big Bazar at Hub Mall, Goragaon East, Mumbai  to 
> experience shopping. Following are my thoughts & observations:
> 
> •We had the mall security reach us to the Big Bazar, aap-ke-liye help 
> desk.
> •We were lucky to get assistance from Seema, Dilip, Sakhib & Manali,
> the Big Bazar team members right from the time we began to shop 
> through the one and a quarter hour we spent
> •  It was especially helpful to have assistance while shopping for
> groceries & staples, to have the weight & prices of items & 
> ingredients read out.
> •The team also informed us on deals & offers as we walked through the
> bakery section
> •While shopping through the frozen meat section, having the BB team
> members assist in reading out labels on details of food items before 
> making up my mind on what I wished to shop for enhanced the 
> experience.
> •Certain items like loose sugar, required to be filled in a poly bag
> & weighed before adding them to the shopping cart. The staff helped 
> simplify this process.
> •When we proceeded to check out, Manali, at the priority Counter red
> out the list & quantity of items on our list to help recheck the bill.
> •The boys helped us load our shopping into poly bags & happily saw us
> off as they reached us to our vehicle.
> 
> We probably missed filling the feedback form in case there was to be 
> one. Hope I get a chance to fill it online.
> 
> Also, would have appreciated getting help in pre-booking assistance 
> via BB’s 1-800 customer care in situations when it is not possible to 
> access internet while commuting.
> 
> Overall, it was a good experience. I am not a mall-going, shopper type 
> for at most times, I get all my groceries delivered to my house by 
> calling the local grocery store. However, sometimes, it becomes 
> important to step out for items like mushroms or corn, frozen meat or 
> spring onions which are rarely found at local stores.
> 
> Cheers!
> Payal Jethra
> Phone: 7303448295
> 
> "Everyone is a moon, and has a dark side which he never shows to 
> anybody." - Mark Twain
> 
>> On 10/30/17, Vineet Kumar via Ai  wrote:
>> I completely agree with you Ma'am
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 30-Oct-2017, at 6:12 PM, Preeti Monga 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Vineet
>>> 
>>> This is a great initiative and we all need this kind of service very 
>>> much!
>>> Thank you for taking the first steps towards making shopping 
>>> accessible to the visually impaired. I am sure other companies will 
>>> follow your lead and make many more services accessible for us!
>>> 
>>> However, please may I say that  most visually impaired people are 
>>> not used to getting out and that too for shopping! There are various 
>>> factors for this. So this will take time, and we will have to keep 
>>> on  reassuring and encouraging people to come forward. I too will be 
>>> visiting one of your stores in East Delhi tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> It could also be the shortage of time, or mobility issues at the 
>>> personal front that is preventing us from going to your esteemed store!
>>> 
>>> Please be patient, there will be teething problems, but we don't 
>>> want to give up the baby just because there are problems! Please do 
>>> keep up the great work! And there is no city in India where there 
>>> are no blind people!
>>> Only they are kept away from mainstream society by many many factors!
>>> Slowly
>>> when these people realize that theendently, they will come flocking 
>>> to your store!
>>> 
>>> Will give you all my feedback tomorrow!
>>> 
>>> Warmly
>>> Preeti
>>> 
>>> Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mobile : 91 9871701646
>>> Landline : 011 22781446
>>> E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com 
>>> Website : www.silver-linings.

[Ai] Request to maintain propriety

[Dinesh Kaushal via Ai]

Dear All,

It was upsetting to see that many of us decided to go for personal attacks on a 
topic on which there could be different opinions. Unlike many of the learned 
members of this list, I don't know much about this case, so I would not argue 
about it. Besides, this mailing list is not to discuss the merits of the case. 
But I would at least request to maintain the decency in conversations.

I too feel that the mail was off topic, but haven't we had many off topic 
discussions? Couldn't we politely say that this is an off topic article and 
move on?

And suppose we were discussing a topic which is core to our mandate, should we 
start attacking each other rather than discussing merits or demerits of our 
arguments? I am pretty sure that even a judge who presides over cases and makes 
a decision also thinks that under current circumstances I can reach this 
conclusion rather than thinking that she or he knows everything that is there 
to know?

Considering that we may not know everything about many situations, I request 
members to avoid snap judgement and hold your thoughts for a while and consider 
that there could be another explanation of what is being presented. It is very 
satisfying to think that you know it all, but that is the biggest illusion!

And one more request, don't bring baggage from other mailing lists. Stay on 
point and avoid personal attacks. Just because someone's opinion does not match 
with my opinion, I should not assume that he or she has divisive communal 
agenda.

Peace!
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Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[Vineet Kumar via Ai]

> 
>>> 
>>> Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mobile : 91 9871701646
>>> Landline : 011 22781446
>>> E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com
>>> Website : www.silver-linings.org
>>> Our Services: Recruitment, Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes,
>>> Diversity & Inclusion, POSH.
>>> 
>>> Your Choice to partner with us contributes towards quality Education &
>>> Empowerment of Visually Impaired Girls, and providing them with secure
>>> Hostel facility at SHIKSHA (A CSR Initiative of Silver Linings)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
>>> Vineet Kumar via Ai
>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 17:41
>>> To: Amit Bhatt
>>> Cc: Vineet Kumar; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>> issues concerningthe disabled.; vineet.saraiw...@futureretail.in; vineet
>>> saraiwala; Share, empower &Enrich
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] [AI] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience
>>> at
>>> Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October
>>> 
>>> RDear colleagues,
>>> 
>>> It is very surprising that not even a single Person with visual impaired
>>> has
>>> visited any of the Big Bazaar in Kolkatta,Ranchi,Guwahati,Raipur and
>>> Patna.
>>> Please spread the word if you reside in these cities because your
>>> response
>>> will help me to  plan for the launch accordingly.It might also happen
>>> that
>>> Persons with Visual Disabilities do not exist in these cities  and Big
>>> Bazaar might have assessed the market situation wrongly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> vineet
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 30-Oct-2017, at 7:42 AM, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Vineet,
>>>> 
>>>> I happened to have this opportunity to visit Big Bazaar at The Great
>>>> India
>>> Place, Noida yesterday.
>>>> 
>>>> I had submited my feedback to the authorized representative there,
>>> however, a few brief points I'd like to mention here:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. I have found my shopping assistant being cooperative and friendly but
>>> they need to be provided with a professional training for the betterment
>>> in
>>> my opinion.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Staff available in billing desk is required to tell the customer
>>>> about
>>> the cost of each product and then final cost of all shopping while
>>> preparing
>>> the bill.
>>>> The person I met on billing counter was also a very good human but I am
>>> addressing these small points just for the improvement. So it can be
>>> resolved at the larger scale by your endeavors.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. I bought some perfumes from their and the seller was absolutely
>>> professional this time! and I was happy with the way he presented the
>>> products and explained the product specification along with the price.
>>>> 
>>>> I had told this to your team members, so the other sellers and staff
>>> members can be made  more sensitised and professional like the person who
>>> was at the cosmetics store.
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Accessible environment inside and outside of the Big Bazaar is
>>>> another
>>> matter of great concern, it has to be taken care in entire Mall area in
>>> the
>>> future I suppose.
>>>> 
>>>> Overall it was a wonderful experience and I was thrilled after
>>> participating in this soft launch!
>>>> 
>>>> Wishing you and the entire team all the very bestt!
>>>> 
>>>> With warm regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Amit Bhatt
>>>> 
>>>> Probationary Officer - United Bank of India
>>>> www.unitedbankofindia.com
>>>> 
>>>> Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with
>>> disabilities
>>>> www.sayeverything.org
>>>> 
>>>> Contact: +91-9560175887, 8178838112
>>>> 
>>>> Skype: amitbhattindia
>>>> 
>>>> "Success lies not in the result, but in the efforts"
>>> -- next part --
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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[muruganandan.k via Ai]

even a person who is going to be hanged deserves respectful treatment
and a decent living condition. When murderous, corrupt and criminal
politicians, fraudsters, anti-social elements and sexual offenders are
allowed to walk free and enjoy all luxuries even within jails, why not
a decent living condition for Prof. Saibaba?
Dear friends and nationalists who want to be in the good records of
the rulers, even in your own viewpoint, he has been sentenced only to
life imprisonment for his "crime", not to be killed in the prison due
to non-availability of his basic amenities.

On 10/30/17, r k sarin via Ai  wrote:
> You may say so. His case is not yet finalised and he is just languishing in
> jail. One can debate on his action but punishment without justice has no
> meaning.
> - Original Message -
> From: "P. Subramani via Ai" 
> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
> Cc: "P. Subramani" 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
> Survive This Winter"
>
>
>> since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
>> deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that the
>>
>> courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
>> called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
>> bearing the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
>> piety/sympathy
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>> Cc: "gatak singh" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
>> Survive This Winter"
>>
>>
>>> the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.
>>>
>>> On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
 solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
 Disabled, he has
 been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
 sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
 the Professor insisting
 that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
 paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
 central and eastern
 India.

 The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
 courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
 multiple ailments,
 himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
 be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
 under the Unlawful
 Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
 describe as a travesty of justice.

 The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
 October 25. It reads as follows:

 Dear Vasantha

 I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
 continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
 sweater/jacket. As temperature
 goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
 increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
 that starts from
 November.

 I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
 months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
 coming winter. I am
 sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

 In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
 of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
 the first week
 of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
 not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
 responsible. I am
 making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
 longer.

 You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
 Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
 hurry up.

 I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
 beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
 understand my present
 condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
 struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
 ailments. And no one
 cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
 attitude.

 Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
 family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
 now. Till I
 am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
 negligence.

 Lots of love

 Yours

 Sai


 Source:

 http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/12100/Saibabas-Letter-From-Jail-

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Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[payal jethra via Ai]

 To: Amit Bhatt
>> Cc: Vineet Kumar; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>> issues concerningthe disabled.; vineet.saraiw...@futureretail.in; vineet
>> saraiwala; Share, empower &Enrich
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] [AI] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience
>> at
>> Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October
>>
>> RDear colleagues,
>>
>> It is very surprising that not even a single Person with visual impaired
>> has
>> visited any of the Big Bazaar in Kolkatta,Ranchi,Guwahati,Raipur and
>> Patna.
>> Please spread the word if you reside in these cities because your
>> response
>> will help me to  plan for the launch accordingly.It might also happen
>> that
>> Persons with Visual Disabilities do not exist in these cities  and Big
>> Bazaar might have assessed the market situation wrongly.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> vineet
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 30-Oct-2017, at 7:42 AM, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Vineet,
>>>
>>> I happened to have this opportunity to visit Big Bazaar at The Great
>>> India
>> Place, Noida yesterday.
>>>
>>> I had submited my feedback to the authorized representative there,
>> however, a few brief points I'd like to mention here:
>>>
>>> 1. I have found my shopping assistant being cooperative and friendly but
>> they need to be provided with a professional training for the betterment
>> in
>> my opinion.
>>>
>>> 2. Staff available in billing desk is required to tell the customer
>>> about
>> the cost of each product and then final cost of all shopping while
>> preparing
>> the bill.
>>> The person I met on billing counter was also a very good human but I am
>> addressing these small points just for the improvement. So it can be
>> resolved at the larger scale by your endeavors.
>>>
>>> 3. I bought some perfumes from their and the seller was absolutely
>> professional this time! and I was happy with the way he presented the
>> products and explained the product specification along with the price.
>>>
>>> I had told this to your team members, so the other sellers and staff
>> members can be made  more sensitised and professional like the person who
>> was at the cosmetics store.
>>>
>>> 4. Accessible environment inside and outside of the Big Bazaar is
>>> another
>> matter of great concern, it has to be taken care in entire Mall area in
>> the
>> future I suppose.
>>>
>>> Overall it was a wonderful experience and I was thrilled after
>> participating in this soft launch!
>>>
>>> Wishing you and the entire team all the very bestt!
>>>
>>> With warm regards,
>>>
>>> Amit Bhatt
>>>
>>> Probationary Officer - United Bank of India
>>> www.unitedbankofindia.com
>>>
>>> Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with
>> disabilities
>>> www.sayeverything.org
>>>
>>> Contact: +91-9560175887, 8178838112
>>>
>>> Skype: amitbhattindia
>>>
>>> "Success lies not in the result, but in the efforts"
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Re: [Ai] radio advise!

[sanjay via Ai]

If you are a shortwave listener I advice you to download apps like simple
radio, tune in radio etc. Which are fairly accessible in both android and
ios devices.  Some of the countries already stopped broadcasting on
shortwave metres.  Now you don't get voice of America, ABC,  Radio Mosco and
many other stations in  shortwave bands.  There is no future for
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Re: [Ai] Query regarding home loan for visually impaired

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HDFC used to give 0.5 % discount in interest which I availed in the year
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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[r k sarin via Ai]

You may say so. His case is not yet finalised and he is just languishing in 
jail. One can debate on his action but punishment without justice has no 
meaning.
- Original Message - 
From: "P. Subramani via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "P. Subramani" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"



since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such 
deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that the 
courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so 
called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is 
bearing the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve 
piety/sympathy
- Original Message - 
From: "gatak singh via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "gatak singh" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"




the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai  
wrote:

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any 
longer.


You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
understand my present
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
ailments. And no one
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous 
attitude.


Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
now. Till I
am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
negligence.

Lots of love

Yours

Sai


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Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

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Even if you make expression in his case, there are all chances that one will 
include you in the extremist fold because this is a word which can be 
defined as per the convenience of the ruler whosoever he may be.
- Original Message - 
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Think I Will Survive This Winter"




most definitely.

But in Prof. Saibaba's case, it has become a matter of life and death.
And it is extremely saddening to see such limited support or protest
on the part of self-promoting disability activists/ advocates.

Shireen.

On 10/30/17, Asudani, Rajesh via Ai  
wrote:

Accessibility has also to be a necessary prerequisite for jails too.


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Subject: [DKIM Failure] [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not 
Think

I Will Survive This Winter"

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any 
longer.


You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
understand my present
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
ailments. And no one
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous 
attitude.


Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
now. Till I
am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
negligence.

Lots of love

Yours

Sai


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Re: [Ai] want to purchase an accessible tv streaming box.

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no it will support keyboards as it has bluetooth

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> Hi sir, should have blue tooth but can it be compatable with blue
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>
>
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 Hi, I was also informed that we can connect bluetooth/ wifi keyboard
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>> the only problem is we dont get it in India and have to import it
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 Hi,
 If budget is not an issue then u can go for Apple TV. However, if
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Re: [Ai] want to purchase an accessible tv streaming box.

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Hi sir, should have blue tooth but can it be compatable with blue
tooth keyboard as it is in the case with MI box?


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> Apple TV and Fire TV both have Bluetooth. Infact rthey both come with
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>
> On 10/30/17, Austin Pinto via Ai 
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>> mi box has bluetooth and i think apple tv should have it to. dont know
>> about firestick
>>
>> On 10/29/17, sampath raj rao via Ai 
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>>> Hi, I was also informed that we can connect bluetooth/ wifi keyboard
>>> with MI box is it so with firestick and apple tv?
>>>
>>> On 10/29/17, Arjun Malhotra via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 No there are no custom exemptions. Moreover you will not get warranty
 support. You will get voice view on fire stick and voice over on apple
 tv. I am using both the options. Amazon is better in terms of media
 content as compared to apple tv. Apple tv is slightly better in terms
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 content on the box.

 On 10/28/17, Austin Pinto via Ai 
 wrote:
> hi.
> the mi box will be accessible or atlist we will be able to install
> talkback on it as it has android.
> the only problem is we dont get it in India and have to import it from
> Chaina and are there any rules for us for custems exemption?
>
> On 10/28/17, sampath raj rao via Ai
> 
> wrote:
>> How about the accessibility of MI tv Box? I was informed that its
>> performance is good from a normal friend...
>>
>> On 10/27/17, Ratul Arora via Ai 
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>>> Hi,
>>> If budget is not an issue then u can go for Apple TV. However, if it
>>> is
>>> an
>>> issue, u can certainly go in for the amazon fire tv stick.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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  wrote:

 hi all.
 i have a tv and now want to purchase a streeming box to make it
 into
 a
 smart tv.
 so has any1 purchased any thing like this?
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 which 1 is accessible for us.
 also regarding importing things from Chaina as is the case with MI
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Re: [Ai] [AI] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[Vineet Kumar via Ai]

m regards,
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Re: [Ai] [AI] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[Preeti Monga via Ai]

Dear Vineet

This is a great initiative and we all need this kind of service very much!
Thank you for taking the first steps towards making shopping accessible to
the visually impaired. I am sure other companies will follow your lead and
make many more services accessible for us!

However, please may I say that  most visually impaired people are not used
to getting out and that too for shopping! There are various factors for
this. So this will take time, and we will have to keep on  reassuring and
encouraging people to come forward. I too will be visiting one of your
stores in East Delhi tomorrow.

It could also be the shortage of time, or mobility issues at the personal
front that is preventing us from going to your esteemed store!

Please be patient, there will be teething problems, but we don't want to
give up the baby just because there are problems! Please do keep up the
great work! And there is no city in India where there are no blind people!
Only they are kept away from mainstream society by many many factors! Slowly
when these people realize that theendently, they will come flocking to your
store!

Will give you all my feedback tomorrow!

Warmly
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From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Vineet Kumar via Ai
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 17:41
To: Amit Bhatt
Cc: Vineet Kumar; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issues concerningthe disabled.; vineet.saraiw...@futureretail.in; vineet
saraiwala; Share, empower &Enrich
Subject: Re: [Ai] [AI] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at
Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

RDear colleagues,
 
It is very surprising that not even a single Person with visual impaired has
visited any of the Big Bazaar in Kolkatta,Ranchi,Guwahati,Raipur and Patna.
Please spread the word if you reside in these cities because your response
will help me to  plan for the launch accordingly.It might also happen that
Persons with Visual Disabilities do not exist in these cities  and Big
Bazaar might have assessed the market situation wrongly.
 
 
Regards,
vineet

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30-Oct-2017, at 7:42 AM, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> 
> Dear Vineet,
>  
> I happened to have this opportunity to visit Big Bazaar at The Great India
Place, Noida yesterday.
>  
> I had submited my feedback to the authorized representative there,
however, a few brief points I'd like to mention here:
>  
> 1. I have found my shopping assistant being cooperative and friendly but
they need to be provided with a professional training for the betterment in
my opinion.
>  
> 2. Staff available in billing desk is required to tell the customer about
the cost of each product and then final cost of all shopping while preparing
the bill.
> The person I met on billing counter was also a very good human but I am
addressing these small points just for the improvement. So it can be
resolved at the larger scale by your endeavors.
>  
> 3. I bought some perfumes from their and the seller was absolutely
professional this time! and I was happy with the way he presented the
products and explained the product specification along with the price.
>  
> I had told this to your team members, so the other sellers and staff
members can be made  more sensitised and professional like the person who
was at the cosmetics store.
>  
> 4. Accessible environment inside and outside of the Big Bazaar is another
matter of great concern, it has to be taken care in entire Mall area in the
future I suppose.
>  
> Overall it was a wonderful experience and I was thrilled after
participating in this soft launch!
>  
> Wishing you and the entire team all the very bestt!
>  
> With warm regards,
>  
> Amit Bhatt
>  
> Probationary Officer - United Bank of India
> www.unitedbankofindia.com
>  
> Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with
disabilities
> www.sayeverything.org
>  
> Contact: +91-9560175887, 8178838112
>  
> Skype: amitbhattindia
>  
> "Success lies not in the result, but in the efforts"
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Re: [Ai] [AI] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[Vineet Kumar via Ai]

RDear colleagues,
 
It is very surprising that not even a single Person with visual impaired has 
visited any of the Big Bazaar in Kolkatta,Ranchi,Guwahati,Raipur and Patna.
Please spread the word if you reside in these cities because your response will 
help me to  plan for the launch accordingly.It might also happen that Persons 
with Visual Disabilities do not exist in these cities  and Big Bazaar might 
have assessed the market situation wrongly.
 
 
Regards,
vineet

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30-Oct-2017, at 7:42 AM, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> 
> Dear Vineet,
>  
> I happened to have this opportunity to visit Big Bazaar at The Great India 
> Place, Noida yesterday.
>  
> I had submited my feedback to the authorized representative there, however, a 
> few brief points I'd like to mention here:
>  
> 1. I have found my shopping assistant being cooperative and friendly but they 
> need to be provided with a professional training for the betterment in my 
> opinion.
>  
> 2. Staff available in billing desk is required to tell the customer about the 
> cost of each product and then final cost of all shopping while preparing the 
> bill.
> The person I met on billing counter was also a very good human but I am 
> addressing these small points just for the improvement. So it can be resolved 
> at the larger scale by your endeavors.
>  
> 3. I bought some perfumes from their and the seller was absolutely 
> professional this time! and I was happy with the way he presented the 
> products and explained the product specification along with the price.
>  
> I had told this to your team members, so the other sellers and staff members 
> can be made  more sensitised and professional like the person who was at the 
> cosmetics store.
>  
> 4. Accessible environment inside and outside of the Big Bazaar is another 
> matter of great concern, it has to be taken care in entire Mall area in the 
> future I suppose.
>  
> Overall it was a wonderful experience and I was thrilled after participating 
> in this soft launch!
>  
> Wishing you and the entire team all the very bestt!
>  
> With warm regards,
>  
> Amit Bhatt
>  
> Probationary Officer - United Bank of India
> www.unitedbankofindia.com
>  
> Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with 
> disabilities
> www.sayeverything.org
>  
> Contact: +91-9560175887, 8178838112
>  
> Skype: amitbhattindia
>  
> "Success lies not in the result, but in the efforts"
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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Vedprakash via Ai]

Such anti-national elements generate no sympathy through the letters like this 
one.
Again and again asserting upon his 90 percent disability too will not help.
Had he considered all this before indulging himself in anti-national acts, he 
would not have gone to jail.
So, no begging in the name of disability.

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Shireen Irani via Ai
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:35 AM
To: disability-studies-india ; 
Connect, share and enrich 
Cc: Shireen Irani 
Subject: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive 
This Winter"

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in solitary 
confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The sentencing has 
been controversial with many who supported and defended the Professor insisting 
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against 
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of central and 
eastern India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the courts, 
with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from multiple ailments, 
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not be able 
to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted under the Unlawful 
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence describe 
as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on October 25. It 
reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with 
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a sweater/jacket. As 
temperature goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand 
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter that 
starts from November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8 months I 
managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the coming winter. I am 
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end of this 
month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in the first week of 
November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is not done in 
this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not responsible. I am making 
clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any longer.

You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to Prof. 
Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a beggar, a 
destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one understand my present 
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars struggling 
with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple ailments. And no one 
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous attitude.

Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire family’s 
health. There is no one else to take care of your health for now. Till I am in 
your presence, you have to take care of your health without any negligence.

Lots of love

Yours

Sai


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Re: [Ai] Soft launch of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores across 17 cities, 29th to 31st October

[Fatema Rangwala via Ai]

great iniciative indeed. waiting to have experience in Surat

On 10/30/17, gatak singh via Ai  wrote:
> I will consider visiting bib bazar mall in bangalore. this is a
> wonderful initiative. thanks.
>
> On 10/27/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai
>  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> A beginning of an accessible shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores!
>> And you are invited for a soft launch on 29th, 30th and 31st October!
>>
>> Blind Graduates Forum of India had approached Future Group to make
>> shopping experience at Big Bazaar stores accessible for persons with
>> disabilities. We were delighted when we heard from Vineet Kumar
>> Saraiwala who took this up with his CEO and the Big Bazaar team and
>> lead the initiative after a lot of effort! fruitful discussions for
>> long has led to the culmination of a great initiative from Big Bazaar.
>> With great enthusiasm, Big Bazaar has planned a PWD listening session
>> in 105 stores within 17 cities. The intention is to take feedback from
>> Persons with Speech/Hearing Disability and Persons with Visual
>> Disabilities on their shopping needs and providing them an enhanced
>> customer experience. Big Bazaar will extend the services for Persons
>> with other disabilities shortly because infrastructure changes are
>> currently underway and the invite will be extended once it's fully
>> ready.
>> soft Launch is a 3 day affair (29-31st October) and a lot of surprises
>> are underway. No other consumer Brand in India has ever done something
>> like this in such a scale. More details are provided below. So,  let’s
>> visit Big Bazaar stores to help them learn how to assist us better.
>>
>> Come, visit the Big Bazaar stores and experience accessible shopping.
>> We want you to be independent in every sphere,whether its selecting
>> clothes,buying groceries,Gifting to a friend or celebrating occasions.
>> We have the largest assortment across Food,Fashion and Home and would
>> like you to experience our rich offerings. We want Persons with Visual
>> and hearing impairment to experience everything in close coordination
>> with our Trained shopping assistants.
>>
>> We have not perfected this but are learning. The purpose of inviting
>> you is to learn from you and improve our services. We invite you to
>> shop
>> in Big Bazaar and rate our services on 29th, 30th and 31st October.
>> Please spread this word across the 17 launch cities. List of cities
>> along with address of  105 stores is provided below.
>>
>>  The key features are:
>>
>> 1. Store Accessibility on Google maps- All Big Bazaar stores are
>> available on Google Maps and will greatly help a persons with Visual
>> Disability to shop.
>> 2. Shopping Assistant-This is the most prominent feature at our store
>> where our visually and hearing challenged visitors can avail shopping
>> assistantwho would be like his friend-helping him find product,
>> recommend him clothes, Navigate the store section  & help him in
>> Billing wherever required. The Shopping Assistant is trained on how to
>> communicate with people with visual or hearing impairment and has a
>> basic understanding of their needs.
>>
>> 3. Priority Counter-All Big Bazaar stores have a dedicated priority
>> Counter for Persons with Disabilities (PWD) for easy billing.
>> 4. Trained Staff-All Key touch points from the security to the cashier
>> to the customer sea Desk, All have been trained on how to handle
>> Person withvisual or hearing impairment. We also have an Accessibility
>> champion in every store who would handle any queries related to our
>> visually or hearing challenged visitors.
>> 5. Special Assistance: Use the below link to prebook a shopping
>> Assistant, Wheel chair and even request assistance in reaching the
>> store from the mall's entrance. This feature gives relief to millions
>> of blind/Deaf user across the country who might require any kind of
>> navigational assistance. This is a closed link and can be accessed
>> only from here.
>> https://www.bigbazaar.com/aap-ke-liye/
>>
>> 6. Dedicated help from Big Bazaar call centre or calling at the store
>> contact centre (Toll Free number-18002002255- Our call centre is
>> sensitised on the needs of Persons with Disabilities and would help
>> you in reaching the store. It would also act as a booking platform for
>> the current period of 3 days.
>> 7. Appointment of Accessibility Champion across every store to handle
>> any queries  To pre-book your Assisted Shopping Experience call us
>> toll free on 1800 200 2255, contact the Customer Seva Desk at your
>> store or visit
>>  https://www.bigbazaar.com/aap-ke-liye
>>
>> Do come to your nearest Big Bazaar between 29th to 31st October to
>> experience the changes made especially for you. And do let us know
>> what you think.
>>
>> Besides this, we are also creating a tactile map in one of the stores,
>> Creating Accessible changing rooms for wheel chair users, building
>> ramps and unisex washrooms in due course of time.

Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Asudani, Rajesh via Ai]

Even if is granted for arguments sake that he deserves to be hanged, still 
accessibility is the right of every disabled person.


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of vivek 
doddamani via Ai
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 3:27 PM
To: Share, empower &Enrich
Cc: vivek doddamani
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not 
Think I Will Survive This Winter"

this prof.Saibaba is a big criminal and because of that he is in jail
for life time, he should be hanged, I cannot understand why Shireen
posted his letter in this group his crime is never related to his
accessability problem, let him die there so his family is never
worried about his bale then why our group member.

On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai  wrote:
> Then, I wholeheartedly apologise for my comments, since hope  things are
> back to normal, thanks for your kind clarification
> - Original Message -
> From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
> To: "P. Subramani" 
> Cc: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
> Survive This Winter"
>
>
> Dear Subramani,
> I think you completely misread my statement, it was never for you.
> It was for the person who posted the letter of a maoist.
>
>
> On 10/30/17, P. Subramani  wrote:
>> if you think, this is communal, that's your stupidity, if you mean I was
>> thrownout from some other mailing list, its absolute absurd, if you dare
>> to
>>
>> come clean on this, ask the moderator of that list to clarify, don' spread
>> misinformation exhibiting your stupidity
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai" 
>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>> Cc: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
>> Survive This Winter"
>>
>>
>>> So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
>>> some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
>>> promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
>>> Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
>>> we all decided the case in his favour.
>>> Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
>>> there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
>>> should be approached, not protest on streets.
>>>
>>> On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
 deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that
 the
 courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
 called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
 bearing
 the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
 piety/sympathy
 - Original Message -
 From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
 To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
 Cc: "gatak singh" 
 Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
 Survive This Winter"


> the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.
>
> On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
> wrote:
>> NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
>> solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
>> Disabled, he has
>> been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
>> sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
>> the Professor insisting
>> that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
>> paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
>> central and eastern
>> India.
>>
>> The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
>> courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
>> multiple ailments,
>> himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
>> be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
>> under the Unlawful
>> Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
>> describe as a travesty of justice.
>>
>> The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
>> October 25. It reads as follows:
>>
>> Dear Vasantha
>>
>> I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
>> continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
>> sweater/jacket. As temperature
>> goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
>> increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
>> that starts from
>> November.
>>
>> I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
>> months I managed to survive. But I am not

Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[vivek doddamani via Ai]

this prof.Saibaba is a big criminal and because of that he is in jail
for life time, he should be hanged, I cannot understand why Shireen
posted his letter in this group his crime is never related to his
accessability problem, let him die there so his family is never
worried about his bale then why our group member.

On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai  wrote:
> Then, I wholeheartedly apologise for my comments, since hope  things are
> back to normal, thanks for your kind clarification
> - Original Message -
> From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
> To: "P. Subramani" 
> Cc: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
> Survive This Winter"
>
>
> Dear Subramani,
> I think you completely misread my statement, it was never for you.
> It was for the person who posted the letter of a maoist.
>
>
> On 10/30/17, P. Subramani  wrote:
>> if you think, this is communal, that's your stupidity, if you mean I was
>> thrownout from some other mailing list, its absolute absurd, if you dare
>> to
>>
>> come clean on this, ask the moderator of that list to clarify, don' spread
>> misinformation exhibiting your stupidity
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai" 
>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>> Cc: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
>> Survive This Winter"
>>
>>
>>> So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
>>> some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
>>> promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
>>> Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
>>> we all decided the case in his favour.
>>> Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
>>> there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
>>> should be approached, not protest on streets.
>>>
>>> On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
 deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that
 the
 courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
 called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
 bearing
 the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
 piety/sympathy
 - Original Message -
 From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
 To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
 Cc: "gatak singh" 
 Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
 Survive This Winter"


> the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.
>
> On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
> wrote:
>> NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
>> solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
>> Disabled, he has
>> been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
>> sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
>> the Professor insisting
>> that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
>> paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
>> central and eastern
>> India.
>>
>> The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
>> courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
>> multiple ailments,
>> himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
>> be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
>> under the Unlawful
>> Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
>> describe as a travesty of justice.
>>
>> The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
>> October 25. It reads as follows:
>>
>> Dear Vasantha
>>
>> I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
>> continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
>> sweater/jacket. As temperature
>> goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
>> increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
>> that starts from
>> November.
>>
>> I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
>> months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
>> coming winter. I am
>> sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.
>>
>> In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
>> of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
>> the first week
>> of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
>> not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
>

Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

[Arjun Malhotra via Ai]

I guess banking fesility circular extends even to credit cards. I have
ICICI bank credit card. I have informed bank about my disability
however I signed the documents.

On 10/30/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai
 wrote:
> In this regard, isn't there any RBI circular to the effect that credit
> card can not be denied to visually impaired person? If it is there, it
> must be shown to credit card issuing authorities.
> I have 3 credit cards from SBI and HDFC banks, I haven't face any
> issue with either of them, as they don't know I am visually impaired
> person.
>
> On 10/30/17, Yogesh J via Ai  wrote:
>> so sad. I applied credit card just for EMI and availle discounts. but
>> after our listening our friends inputs its  I think its very dificult
>> to get credit card.
>> but I never give up. sure I'll try for it just to prove blind are
>> eligible for credit card.
>>
>> On 10/29/17, Sasidhar Babu via Ai 
>> wrote:
>>>  hi all  yes  SBI  cards pvt ltd  has  not processing  applications
>>> with thumb.  many  credit card  agents of  SBI cards  are not
>>> accepting  applications from  visually challenged. I also  applied
>>> for sbi   credit card.  they have  declined my credit  card
>>> application.  I aasked  for reason  they are  saying  that  currently
>>> we are unable  to issue  credit card for you.   it  is  very  bad
>>> that   SBI cards PVT ltd  a subsediary  of SBI  is  not  approving and
>>>  issuing  credit cards  with thumb   for  prospective  visually
>>> impaired  customers. when  I speak about   this  with a agent  of  SBI
>>> card  he said  that you can  apply  with others  sign  but   don't
>>>  say that  you are  blind  when  you received  verification  call.
>>> thenone  agent  has  taken  application  from  me  that is  not
>>> processed  because of  higher authority of  that agent  has rejected.
>>> however  one agent  has  send  my application  with  thumb  she got
>>> scoldings  from their  higher  authorities. finally  they have
>>> declined  my application  without  saying  any valid  reason. I had
>>> very  bad experience  with SBI cards PVTLTD.  then   I stopped  trying
>>> for credit card with other  companys.  please  suggest me   is  there
>>> anybuddy  got credit card  with thumb.   I don't  use  credit  cards
>>> much   but  I need  credit  card  for  a financial  status and  to
>>> avail  certain  discounts.  and  I may  use them  in emergency
>>> situations.
>>>
>>> On 29/10/2017, sheik mohammedali via Ai
>>>  wrote:
 Sorry international transactions I meant

 Sent from my iPhone

> On 29-Oct-2017, at 8:10 AM, Chirag Mittal via Ai
>  wrote:
>
> Dear Yogesh,
> I strictly advise u to drop idea of purchasing credit card because God
> has send we guys to spread the message of love and happiness in world.
> We have to show the world that despite being  of so much difficulties,
> when we can live life with comfort,dignity and with happiness why
> can't you. Credit card will trap you in debt trap and you will not be
> in position to avail services of assistant and develop habit of misery
> on essential things that are require specially for we guys. So, please
> instead of taking credit card, save money , spend it in prudent way.
>
>>  On 10/28/17, Yogesh J via Ai 
>> wrote:
>> hai friends.
>> I am yogesh from tamilnadu.
>> last month I applied sbi credit card.
>> they were completed all process and I got 3 verification calls.
>> but finaly my aplication was rejected.
>> in my side everything is fine.
>> I put thump impression in all documents like pan aadhar.so I put it
>> in
>> my credit card aplication also.
>> is it possible to get a credit card for thump impression candidates?
>> kindly give your comments
>>
>> --
>> If God is love, and love is blind, and I were blind, would I be God?
>>
>> with love and regards
>> yogesh J
>> postal assistant
>> india post
>> tenkasi head office
>> phone: 7811071227
>> skype: romio.yogesh
>> facebook: yogesh yogi
>>
>> Emotional investments are subject to human desires. Read the person
>> carefully before investing.
>>
>>
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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[P. Subramani via Ai]

Then, I wholeheartedly apologise for my comments, since hope  things are 
back to normal, thanks for your kind clarification
- Original Message - 
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 

To: "P. Subramani" 
Cc: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"



Dear Subramani,
I think you completely misread my statement, it was never for you.
It was for the person who posted the letter of a maoist.


On 10/30/17, P. Subramani  wrote:

if you think, this is communal, that's your stupidity, if you mean I was
thrownout from some other mailing list, its absolute absurd, if you dare 
to


come clean on this, ask the moderator of that list to clarify, don' spread
misinformation exhibiting your stupidity
- Original Message -
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
Survive This Winter"



So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
we all decided the case in his favour.
Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
should be approached, not protest on streets.

On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai 
wrote:

since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that
the
courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
bearing
the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
piety/sympathy
- Original Message -
From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "gatak singh" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
Survive This Winter"



the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
wrote:

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
longer.

You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
understand my present
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
ailments. And no one
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
attitude.

Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
now. Till I
am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
negligence.

Lots 

Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

[Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai]

In this regard, isn't there any RBI circular to the effect that credit
card can not be denied to visually impaired person? If it is there, it
must be shown to credit card issuing authorities.
I have 3 credit cards from SBI and HDFC banks, I haven't face any
issue with either of them, as they don't know I am visually impaired
person.

On 10/30/17, Yogesh J via Ai  wrote:
> so sad. I applied credit card just for EMI and availle discounts. but
> after our listening our friends inputs its  I think its very dificult
> to get credit card.
> but I never give up. sure I'll try for it just to prove blind are
> eligible for credit card.
>
> On 10/29/17, Sasidhar Babu via Ai 
> wrote:
>>  hi all  yes  SBI  cards pvt ltd  has  not processing  applications
>> with thumb.  many  credit card  agents of  SBI cards  are not
>> accepting  applications from  visually challenged. I also  applied
>> for sbi   credit card.  they have  declined my credit  card
>> application.  I aasked  for reason  they are  saying  that  currently
>> we are unable  to issue  credit card for you.   it  is  very  bad
>> that   SBI cards PVT ltd  a subsediary  of SBI  is  not  approving and
>>  issuing  credit cards  with thumb   for  prospective  visually
>> impaired  customers. when  I speak about   this  with a agent  of  SBI
>> card  he said  that you can  apply  with others  sign  but   don't
>>  say that  you are  blind  when  you received  verification  call.
>> thenone  agent  has  taken  application  from  me  that is  not
>> processed  because of  higher authority of  that agent  has rejected.
>> however  one agent  has  send  my application  with  thumb  she got
>> scoldings  from their  higher  authorities. finally  they have
>> declined  my application  without  saying  any valid  reason. I had
>> very  bad experience  with SBI cards PVTLTD.  then   I stopped  trying
>> for credit card with other  companys.  please  suggest me   is  there
>> anybuddy  got credit card  with thumb.   I don't  use  credit  cards
>> much   but  I need  credit  card  for  a financial  status and  to
>> avail  certain  discounts.  and  I may  use them  in emergency
>> situations.
>>
>> On 29/10/2017, sheik mohammedali via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>> Sorry international transactions I meant
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On 29-Oct-2017, at 8:10 AM, Chirag Mittal via Ai
  wrote:

 Dear Yogesh,
 I strictly advise u to drop idea of purchasing credit card because God
 has send we guys to spread the message of love and happiness in world.
 We have to show the world that despite being  of so much difficulties,
 when we can live life with comfort,dignity and with happiness why
 can't you. Credit card will trap you in debt trap and you will not be
 in position to avail services of assistant and develop habit of misery
 on essential things that are require specially for we guys. So, please
 instead of taking credit card, save money , spend it in prudent way.

>  On 10/28/17, Yogesh J via Ai 
> wrote:
> hai friends.
> I am yogesh from tamilnadu.
> last month I applied sbi credit card.
> they were completed all process and I got 3 verification calls.
> but finaly my aplication was rejected.
> in my side everything is fine.
> I put thump impression in all documents like pan aadhar.so I put it in
> my credit card aplication also.
> is it possible to get a credit card for thump impression candidates?
> kindly give your comments
>
> --
> If God is love, and love is blind, and I were blind, would I be God?
>
> with love and regards
> yogesh J
> postal assistant
> india post
> tenkasi head office
> phone: 7811071227
> skype: romio.yogesh
> facebook: yogesh yogi
>
> Emotional investments are subject to human desires. Read the person
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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai]

Dear Subramani,
I think you completely misread my statement, it was never for you.
It was for the person who posted the letter of a maoist.


On 10/30/17, P. Subramani  wrote:
> if you think, this is communal, that's your stupidity, if you mean I was
> thrownout from some other mailing list, its absolute absurd, if you dare to
>
> come clean on this, ask the moderator of that list to clarify, don' spread
> misinformation exhibiting your stupidity
> - Original Message -
> From: "Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai" 
> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
> Cc: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
> Survive This Winter"
>
>
>> So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
>> some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
>> promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
>> Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
>> we all decided the case in his favour.
>> Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
>> there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
>> should be approached, not protest on streets.
>>
>> On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai 
>> wrote:
>>> since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
>>> deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that
>>> the
>>> courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
>>> called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
>>> bearing
>>> the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
>>> piety/sympathy
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
>>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>>> Cc: "gatak singh" 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
>>> Survive This Winter"
>>>
>>>
 the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

 On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
 wrote:
> NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
> solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
> Disabled, he has
> been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
> sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
> the Professor insisting
> that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
> paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
> central and eastern
> India.
>
> The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
> courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
> multiple ailments,
> himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
> be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
> under the Unlawful
> Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
> describe as a travesty of justice.
>
> The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
> October 25. It reads as follows:
>
> Dear Vasantha
>
> I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
> continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
> sweater/jacket. As temperature
> goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
> increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
> that starts from
> November.
>
> I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
> months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
> coming winter. I am
> sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.
>
> In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
> of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
> the first week
> of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
> not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
> responsible. I am
> making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
> longer.
>
> You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
> Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
> hurry up.
>
> I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
> beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
> understand my present
> condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
> struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
> ailments. And no one
> cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
> attitude.
>
> Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
> family’s health. There is no one else to t

[Ai] Moderator: off-topic- RE: [DKIM Failure] Re: Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

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No more traffic on this thread. I will be compelled to take action on any post 
subsequent to this mail.
Harish.



-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of P. 
Subramani via Ai
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:32 PM
To: Share, empower &Enrich 
Cc: P. Subramani 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not 
Think I Will Survive This Winter"

if you think, this is communal, that's your stupidity, if you mean I was 
thrownout from some other mailing list, its absolute absurd, if you dare to 
come clean on this, ask the moderator of that list to clarify, don' spread 
misinformation exhibiting your stupidity
- Original Message -
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"


> So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
> some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
> promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
> Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
> we all decided the case in his favour.
> Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
> there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
> should be approached, not protest on streets.
>
> On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai 
> wrote:
>> since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing
>> such deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability,
>> now that the courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those
>> supporting his so called innocence are liable for action on contempt
>> of courts, he is bearing the fruits  of his anti-national activities,
>> he doesn't deserve piety/sympathy
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>> Cc: "gatak singh" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I
>> Will Survive This Winter"
>>
>>
>>> the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.
>>>
>>> On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai
>>> 
>>> wrote:
 NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
 solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
 Disabled, he has
 been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
 sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and
 defended the Professor insisting that he has been persecuted by
 governments for raising a voice against paramilitary operations in
 the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of central and eastern India.

 The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have
 the courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering
 from multiple ailments, himself writing in this letter to his wife
 Vasantha that he might not be able to survive the winter months in
 jail. He has been convicted under the Unlawful Activities
 (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence describe
 as a travesty of justice.

 The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
 October 25. It reads as follows:

 Dear Vasantha

 I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering
 with continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
 sweater/jacket. As temperature goes down excruciating pain
 continuously in my legs and left hand increases. It is impossible
 for me to survive here during the winter that starts from November.

 I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
 months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
 coming winter. I am sure. It is of no use to write about my health
 any longer.

 In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the
 end of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail
 application in the first week of November or last week of October
 itself. You remember if this is not done in this way, my situation
 will be out of hands. I am not responsible. I am making clear to
 you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any longer.

 You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk
 to Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You
 need to hurry up.

 I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like
 a beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
 understand my present condition. No one understands 90% disabled
 person is behind bars struggling with one hand in condition and
 suffering with multiple ailments. And no one cares for my life.
 This is simply criminal negligence, a callous attitude.

 Please take care o

Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[P. Subramani via Ai]

if you think, this is communal, that's your stupidity, if you mean I was 
thrownout from some other mailing list, its absolute absurd, if you dare to 
come clean on this, ask the moderator of that list to clarify, don' spread 
misinformation exhibiting your stupidity
- Original Message - 
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"




So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
we all decided the case in his favour.
Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
should be approached, not protest on streets.

On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai  
wrote:

since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that 
the

courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is 
bearing

the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
piety/sympathy
- Original Message -
From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "gatak singh" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
Survive This Winter"



the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
wrote:

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
longer.

You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
understand my present
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
ailments. And no one
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
attitude.

Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
now. Till I
am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
negligence.

Lots of love

Yours

Sai


Source:

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/12100/Saibabas-Letter-From-Jail-I-Do-Not-Think-I-Will-Survive-This-Winter


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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai]

Saw the moderator's mail just now, so my sincere apologies for writing
on a closed topic.

On 10/30/17, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> *it should be divisive hateful agenda and not divisive communal
>
> On 10/30/17, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>> So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
>> some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
>> promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
>> Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
>> we all decided the case in his favour.
>> Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
>> there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
>> should be approached, not protest on streets.
>>
>> On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai 
>> wrote:
>>> since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
>>> deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that
>>> the
>>> courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
>>> called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
>>> bearing
>>> the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
>>> piety/sympathy
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
>>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>>> Cc: "gatak singh" 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
>>> Survive This Winter"
>>>
>>>
 the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

 On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
 wrote:
> NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
> solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
> Disabled, he has
> been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
> sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
> the Professor insisting
> that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
> paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
> central and eastern
> India.
>
> The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
> courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
> multiple ailments,
> himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
> be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
> under the Unlawful
> Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
> describe as a travesty of justice.
>
> The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
> October 25. It reads as follows:
>
> Dear Vasantha
>
> I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
> continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
> sweater/jacket. As temperature
> goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
> increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
> that starts from
> November.
>
> I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
> months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
> coming winter. I am
> sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.
>
> In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
> of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
> the first week
> of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
> not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
> responsible. I am
> making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
> longer.
>
> You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
> Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
> hurry up.
>
> I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
> beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
> understand my present
> condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
> struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
> ailments. And no one
> cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
> attitude.
>
> Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
> family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
> now. Till I
> am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
> negligence.
>
> Lots of love
>
> Yours
>
> Sai
>
>
> Source:
>
> http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/12100/Saibabas-Letter-From-Jail-I-Do-Not-Think-I-Will-Survive-This-Winter
>
>
> Disclaimer:
> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
> of
>

Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai]

*it should be divisive hateful agenda and not divisive communal

On 10/30/17, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
> some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
> promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
> Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
> we all decided the case in his favour.
> Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
> there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
> should be approached, not protest on streets.
>
> On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai 
> wrote:
>> since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
>> deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that
>> the
>> courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
>> called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
>> bearing
>> the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
>> piety/sympathy
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
>> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
>> Cc: "gatak singh" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
>> Survive This Winter"
>>
>>
>>> the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.
>>>
>>> On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
 solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
 Disabled, he has
 been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
 sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
 the Professor insisting
 that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
 paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
 central and eastern
 India.

 The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
 courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
 multiple ailments,
 himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
 be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
 under the Unlawful
 Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
 describe as a travesty of justice.

 The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
 October 25. It reads as follows:

 Dear Vasantha

 I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
 continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
 sweater/jacket. As temperature
 goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
 increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
 that starts from
 November.

 I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
 months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
 coming winter. I am
 sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

 In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
 of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
 the first week
 of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
 not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
 responsible. I am
 making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
 longer.

 You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
 Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
 hurry up.

 I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
 beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
 understand my present
 condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
 struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
 ailments. And no one
 cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
 attitude.

 Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
 family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
 now. Till I
 am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
 negligence.

 Lots of love

 Yours

 Sai


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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai]

So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
we all decided the case in his favour.
Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
should be approached, not protest on streets.

On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai  wrote:
> since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
> deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that the
> courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
> called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is bearing
> the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
> piety/sympathy
> - Original Message -
> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
> To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
> Cc: "gatak singh" 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
> Survive This Winter"
>
>
>> the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.
>>
>> On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
>> wrote:
>>> NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
>>> solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
>>> Disabled, he has
>>> been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
>>> sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
>>> the Professor insisting
>>> that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
>>> paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
>>> central and eastern
>>> India.
>>>
>>> The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
>>> courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
>>> multiple ailments,
>>> himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
>>> be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
>>> under the Unlawful
>>> Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
>>> describe as a travesty of justice.
>>>
>>> The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
>>> October 25. It reads as follows:
>>>
>>> Dear Vasantha
>>>
>>> I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
>>> continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
>>> sweater/jacket. As temperature
>>> goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
>>> increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
>>> that starts from
>>> November.
>>>
>>> I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
>>> months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
>>> coming winter. I am
>>> sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.
>>>
>>> In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
>>> of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
>>> the first week
>>> of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
>>> not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
>>> responsible. I am
>>> making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
>>> longer.
>>>
>>> You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
>>> Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
>>> hurry up.
>>>
>>> I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
>>> beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
>>> understand my present
>>> condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
>>> struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
>>> ailments. And no one
>>> cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
>>> attitude.
>>>
>>> Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
>>> family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
>>> now. Till I
>>> am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
>>> negligence.
>>>
>>> Lots of love
>>>
>>> Yours
>>>
>>> Sai
>>>
>>>
>>> Source:
>>>
>>> http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/12100/Saibabas-Letter-From-Jail-I-Do-Not-Think-I-Will-Survive-This-Winter
>>>
>>>
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[Ai] Moderator: off-topic: RE: [DKIM Failure] Re: Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[Kotian, H P via Ai]

All

1 He does not talk about accessibility issue in this mail.
2 He is a convict who happened to be disabled.
So, let us not carry this thread further.
Harish.

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of P. 
Subramani via Ai
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:28 PM
To: Share, empower &Enrich 
Cc: P. Subramani 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not 
Think I Will Survive This Winter"

since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such 
deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that the 
courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so called 
innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is bearing the fruits 
 of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve piety/sympathy
- Original Message -
From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "gatak singh" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"


> the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.
>
> On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai 
> wrote:
>> NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
>> solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
>> Disabled, he has
>> been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
>> sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and
>> defended the Professor insisting that he has been persecuted by
>> governments for raising a voice against paramilitary operations in
>> the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of central and eastern India.
>>
>> The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
>> courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
>> multiple ailments, himself writing in this letter to his wife
>> Vasantha that he might not be able to survive the winter months in
>> jail. He has been convicted under the Unlawful Activities
>> (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence describe as
>> a travesty of justice.
>>
>> The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
>> October 25. It reads as follows:
>>
>> Dear Vasantha
>>
>> I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering
>> with continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
>> sweater/jacket. As temperature goes down excruciating pain
>> continuously in my legs and left hand increases. It is impossible for
>> me to survive here during the winter that starts from November.
>>
>> I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
>> months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
>> coming winter. I am sure. It is of no use to write about my health
>> any longer.
>>
>> In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
>> of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
>> the first week of November or last week of October itself. You
>> remember if this is not done in this way, my situation will be out of
>> hands. I am not responsible. I am making clear to you. Hereafter I am
>> not going to write about it any longer.
>>
>> You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
>> Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
>> hurry up.
>>
>> I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
>> beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
>> understand my present condition. No one understands 90% disabled
>> person is behind bars struggling with one hand in condition and
>> suffering with multiple ailments. And no one cares for my life. This
>> is simply criminal negligence, a callous attitude.
>>
>> Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
>> family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
>> now. Till I am in your presence, you have to take care of your health
>> without any negligence.
>>
>> Lots of love
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Sai
>>
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/12100/Saibabas-
>> Letter-From-Jail-I-Do-Not-Think-I-Will-Survive-This-Winter
>>
>>
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>> mails sent through this mailing list..
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>>
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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[P. Subramani via Ai]

since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such 
deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that the 
courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so 
called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is bearing 
the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve 
piety/sympathy
- Original Message - 
From: "gatak singh via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "gatak singh" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"




the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai  
wrote:

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any 
longer.


You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
understand my present
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
ailments. And no one
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous 
attitude.


Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
now. Till I
am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
negligence.

Lots of love

Yours

Sai


Source:

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/12100/Saibabas-Letter-From-Jail-I-Do-Not-Think-I-Will-Survive-This-Winter


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Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!

[P. Subramani via Ai]

indeed I tried meterred connections, but still  few updates are still being 
downloaded/installed
- Original Message - 
From: "Ajay Minocha via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "Ajay Minocha" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!



Have you tried metered connection?

On 29/10/2017, P. Subramani via Ai  
wrote:

true,  but it consumes lots of data impeeding the data usage
- Original Message -
From: "sheik mohammedali via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "sheik mohammedali" 
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!



it is not a good idea to disable the windows updates for sake of
security.

Sent from my iPhone


On 29-Oct-2017, at 11:40 AM, P. Subramani via Ai
 wrote:

have already done the same, despite this,  it still gets updated, I 
have


made changes to local policy and registry as well
- Original Message - From: "Ajay Minocha via Ai"

To: "Share, empower &Enrich" 
Cc: "Ajay Minocha" 
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!



Hi,

Go to windows update settings and then set windows not to install
updates for few days.

Alternatively, go to your wi-fi network's settings and make it a
metered connection. Updates generally don't get downloaded over a
metered connection.

Hope this helps,
Ajay

On 28/10/2017, P. Subramani via Ai 



wrote:
I am using win 10 64 bit gets updated on its own thereby using lots 
of


data,
so how to prevent win 10 from updating? kindly advice, thanks and
regards,
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