[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-08-20 Thread grillon
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-08-07 Thread 1antoine1
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--- Additional comments from 1antoi...@openoffice.org Sat Aug  7 10:56:12 
+ 2010 ---
I really hope this feature will be implemented soon, after all these years. I
believe it's a terrible lack for OOo Writer and I just don't understand why
developers (used to ?) consider it as a second-class issue.
(Sorry for my poor English, I'm French.)

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-08-05 Thread wope
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--- Additional comments from w...@openoffice.org Thu Aug  5 11:30:21 + 
2010 ---
For some Users, this is a argument, to use MS Office

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-06-15 Thread es
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--- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Tue Jun 15 22:36:35 + 
2010 ---
*** Issue 37591 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-06-10 Thread syzygy
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-05-31 Thread dipish
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--- Additional comments from dip...@openoffice.org Mon May 31 15:21:13 
+ 2010 ---
It is a pity that such simple though useful feature isn't implemented in 7 
years...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-04-28 Thread cbrace
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-03-11 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from gril...@openoffice.org Thu Mar 11 13:55:41 
+ 2010 ---
Pls read comment from mba posted in Jan 15 2009 15:09:25. Also his comment in
Issue 19292 in Thu Jan 15 16:28:32 +2009.
According to developers, it will be done, and there's already a roadmap - tabbed
windows.
I'd just ask a milestone and a higher priority. IMHO, the milestone is needed
because no major upgrade makes sense without this feature - indeed, this feature
will be the killer upgrade. The higher priority would just be more suitable,
since this feature is badly needed.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-03-10 Thread passerpunt
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--- Additional comments from passerp...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 10 17:48:40 
+ 2010 ---
just updated to 3.2, and it's still not there pity... is it likely there
will be a solution for this anny time soon??

hope so since it's in fact the only function I'm missing in OO 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-03-10 Thread hwtan
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--- Additional comments from hw...@openoffice.org Thu Mar 11 01:20:11 + 
2010 ---
passerpunt,

If you look at the version, it is since the time of version 1.1. It has been a
few years and with 182 votes to date. As some of us have noted, technically, it
is not impossible, and probably already found in StarOffice 5.1 and the Calc
(present version). I have no idea what is in the minds of those developers, and
how the voting system works. Only if we have the time and expertise, we do not
have to keep waiting in vain.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-02-19 Thread mr_smyle
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-02-15 Thread vasa1
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--- Additional comments from va...@openoffice.org Tue Feb 16 04:26:30 + 
2010 ---
This is my first post here, so please pardon any bungles:

wornway wrote:
[quote]
Note that the split-view feature already exists in Open Office, just not in
Writer. It _is_ in Calc, however, complete with the freeze frame option. And it
works very nicely there. So it seems to me that the code is already there. It's
just a matter of copying it over to Writer or letting Writer have access to it,
or however it works. The point is, the code has already been written.
[/quote]

What I would like to see in Calc (if this issue is not limited to Writer):
I would like to have a possibility that New Window and Arrange
(horizontally, vertically, tiled, etc) gives me two windows for the same .ods
file with the option to work on one sheet in one window *and* any other sheet
(from the same .ods file) in the other window.

Split or Freeze frame doesn't allow for working on a choice of sheets.

I currently open a new window, size it, and position it manually. I have even
got OpenOffice to remember the size and position of the second window. So for me
the only drawback is the loss of a couple of rows devoted to tool bars, etc. If
this could be done in OpenOffice, I'd gain these rows.

(No, not everyone has mega screens and if one of the aims of OpenOffice is to
attract new users, please, please introduce this feature.)

Now to see where I cast my vote ***in favour*** of this added functionality.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-01-12 Thread adeneba
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--- Additional comments from aden...@openoffice.org Tue Jan 12 18:04:18 
+ 2010 ---
After many year without MSWord, I still feel very annoying by the lack of the
splitview feature in writer. This issue should be taken the most seriously now.
Using the new window menu is kind of crafting.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2010-01-12 Thread wornways
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--- Additional comments from wornw...@openoffice.org Tue Jan 12 23:55:45 
+ 2010 ---
Note that the split-view feature already exists in Open Office, just not in
Writer. It _is_ in Calc, however, complete with the freeze frame option. And it
works very nicely there. So it seems to me that the code is already there. It's
just a matter of copying it over to Writer or letting Writer have access to it,
or however it works. The point is, the code has already been written.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-12-06 Thread rabauke
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-11-22 Thread wornways
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--- Additional comments from wornw...@openoffice.org Mon Nov 23 03:47:35 
+ 2009 ---
Well put, borgo. And notebooks have become the norm. I'm actually thinking of
going back to MS Office lately now that I've waited a couple of years for this
one important feature that I don't think will ever be implemented.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-11-19 Thread borgo1971
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--- Additional comments from borgo1...@openoffice.org Thu Nov 19 18:15:10 
+ 2009 ---
I was surprised to not find this feature. Adding windows to see other parts of 
document can be done with 
20 inch display, but with notebook splitting one window is far better

--- Additional comments from borgo1...@openoffice.org Thu Nov 19 18:15:11 
+ 2009 ---
I was surprised to not find this feuture. Adding windows to see other parts of 
document can be done with 
20 inch display, but with notebook splitting one window is far better

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-08-03 Thread es
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--- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Mon Aug  3 09:33:17 + 
2009 ---
*** Issue 103967 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-07-27 Thread hwtan
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--- Additional comments from hw...@openoffice.org Tue Jul 28 03:13:01 + 
2009 ---
If I remember correctly, Staroffice 5.1 has such a feature. Since Staroffice is
the predecessor of OOo, could the developers take a look at the codes of
Staroffice, modify it and use it in OOo. That would save a lot of time and
effort I suppose.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-07-16 Thread wornways
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--- Additional comments from wornw...@openoffice.org Thu Jul 16 10:34:36 
+ 2009 ---
I'm with sietske on this. I use the two windows alternative all the time, but
it's not enough. I'd like to use the two windows AND split screens together.
Because I often work with several documents, and at several points within those
documents, simultaneously, I have a strong need for both. I also lack the
programming skills to bring this feature to life. My plight is that of an
impoverished poet, not a prosperous programmer. I've been keeping my fingers
crossed for this split screen now for a handful of years--they're beginning to
get a bit sore.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-07-14 Thread sietske
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--- Additional comments from siet...@openoffice.org Tue Jul 14 09:44:29 
+ 2009 ---
It is really annoying working with the two-screens-alternative, because I was
used to move the split in MS Word up and down depending on the length of the
paragraphs I'm comparing. It would be really great if someone else could do
something about it, because I lack the programming skills for it. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-06-06 Thread jsonnentag
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--- Additional comments from jsonnen...@openoffice.org Sun Jun  7 00:45:01 
+ 2009 ---
I'm removing my 2 votes for this one because I recently found out that using
Window - New Window will open the same document in a new window.  They are
linked so that a change in one affects the other, so it is basically what is
needed, only a little of a pain to work with.  There is wasted space due to
multiple window menu lines, but when extra menus are turned off most space can
be recovered.  It is a little better than Word in that you can open as many
splits and desired so you can be looking at lots of different points in a
document.

Anyway, the way it is now will work for me.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-05-29 Thread mba
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-20 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from gril...@openoffice.org Tue Jan 20 18:00:52 
+ 2009 ---
Now I got the idea of keeping both Issues. Thank you for the comments.
IMHO, mba's roadmap is a good way to go - if I got it right, first the split
screen (with any reasonable number of splits and files), then tabs on top of it.
It's how I see it: split screen, both for single and multiple files is the one
enhancement to get, prior to anything else except bugs. This is what will bring
OOo ahead of competitors - other stuff is peanuts compared to split screen.

Going to the practical side: what is needed for this to move on? Programming
skills? Which languages? Logical thinking? Organization? Pls someone inform how
we can push this forward other than just endlessly discussing what's already 
clear.

Many thanks.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-18 Thread hwtan
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--- Additional comments from hw...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 19 01:55:41 + 
2009 ---
I think this issue should be kept. Also, my suggestion is we should go ahead and
implement a split screen in a single document first. Then we move on from there
to implement the multiple tab. If no one write the first line of code, it can
never be done. Just get it moving. Please and thank you.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-16 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from gril...@openoffice.org Fri Jan 16 16:58:06 
+ 2009 ---
sba, since I'm not a developer, I have some difficulty following your roadmap.
But, if I got it well, the first goal is to have something as a window manager
inside OOo, allowing multiple files and/or instances of the same file to be
arranged in a single window. This seems to be what Issue 19292 is about and what
this issue is becoming.
So, in the end, both issues will become the same stuff. If I'm correct, I keep
the suggestion of closing either issue, merging talks into the other, so that
the discussion is unique.
Another possibility is to close both issues and open a fresh one, with the clear
idea in mind. Besides unifying the discussion, we also get rid of the garbage
collected over the years, making it easier and more objective.
My only intent with this is to end the split discussion (pun intended).
Then, we move on to the ideas themselves.
Thanks

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-16 Thread ibcl
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--- Additional comments from i...@openoffice.org Fri Jan 16 17:20:22 + 
2009 ---
I strongly object to the idea of closing this issue!

There is no garbage or even a idea, there is just a long history of people
claiming back a feature that had been here in StarOffice (!) but was removed at
some point for whatever reasons.

The age and history of this issue and all the votes and CCs do say something and
should not be brushed under the carpet!

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-16 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri Jan 16 17:33:28 + 
2009 ---
Yes, we don't need to close one of them. We know that they are related and won't
get confused if both are kept open.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-16 Thread rustybadger
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--- Additional comments from rustybad...@openoffice.org Fri Jan 16 18:01:02 
+ 2009 ---
I don't want to see this issue closed either. It may certainly be possible to
combine two issues, but I would worry that this one would get glossed over by
the developers, as it has for so long.

I cannot state this strongly enough: the split document view is the only feature
that's keeping OO from being widely adopted by the education market. I just
spent $10,000.00 renewing my Microsoft licensing for my district- this is money
I could have spent in better ways if I could have deployed Open Office; some of
that money (or all of it for all I care) could have been spent on OO
development- an offer I made quite some time ago with no response. The offer is
still there for an ambitious developer- you implement the feature, I am willing
to pay for it. I can't see why this seems so difficult. F/OSS is a great thing,
except when development stalls: then it sucks. OO is a great product, and kudos
to the developers who are working to make it better. Please, though- we've been
waiting for this split-document view option for ages now in education. Make it
happen!

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-16 Thread lamarcbr
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--- Additional comments from lamar...@openoffice.org Fri Jan 16 21:19:19 
+ 2009 ---
I agree as well that both issues have to be separate. Issue 19292 applies to 
all 
applications, and if I read it right would give OOo.org the ability to view 
multiple documents within the same application window. As a matter of fact I 
use 
this feature all the time in Excel!

This issue, 19291, which I am commenting on only applies to Writer, and would 
give Writer functionality which already exists in Draw and Calc.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-16 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri Jan 16 22:41:16 + 
2009 ---
Yes and no. The Calc functionality is not enough - IMHO.
You can split the view, but you can have only one selection and the two parts
can only be scrolled together.

In a Writer document I wouldn't accept that - IMHO both parts must be scrollable
independently. And I want to select something in one view without losing the
cursor in the other.

And again: if done like proposed, this wouldn't be something for Writer only.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 15:09:25 + 
2009 ---
@kissedsmiley: yes and no.

Calc has its own, specific implementation of the split feature. And I think
instead of implementing a second, specific solution we should aim for a
generic one. 

Meanwhile I think we should do it in a similar way as in StarOffice 5.2 (IIRC
this was mentioned here in an earlier comment) and this means: have TABS(!) in
OOo and allow to have more than one view to one or several documents inside of
one tab. IMHO this will be the most versatile, elegant and useful 
implementation.

This is my final goal, and any in-between solution should be in line with it.
Here's a small summary how that should be done:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Architecture/To-Dos#Framework_Improvements

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread bluloo
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--- Additional comments from blu...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 15:22:05 
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@mba - That would result in the most versatile solution and make OO unique. I
have no idea how it should be implemented from a programming perspective but the
outcome solves more than a few problems. While some many not care for the tab
metaphor, it is where many productivity app GUIs are currently heading.

As long as we don't lose the split view within the same document feature, it
adds benefits and solves the original issue as well.



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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 15:38:47 + 
2009 ---
The tabs are not a necessary part of the feature - they are optional. But for me
it's important to have a solution that is generic and that fits into the current
UI (tabs only in the desktop's task bar) as well into a possible future UI with
tabs in OOo. Whether we will have some very much depends on the project
rennaissance (search for it at http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS in case you don't
know it).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from gril...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 15:56:47 
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Yes, split view is the most important request, but I guess the tabs can conflict
with Issue 19292 which, IMHO, is even better (more complete) than this one.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 16:19:14 + 
2009 ---
No, there is no contradiction. We can solve this issue here and 19292 with and
without tabs, the concept/roadmap in the wiki I pointed to covers that all.
There is no difference between having two views to two different documents or
two views to one single document in one tab or task window (except that they
will have different menu entries or other UI means to create them). But the
arrangement of windows and the code to implement it will be the same. For this
part of the feature it's irrelevant whether the two (or even more) views are
part of a tab or a system task.

Having tabs and a tab bar inside OOo gives an additional advantage: you can move
view between tabs by DD on the tab bar. This is not possible with tabs in the
system task bar. All people that have used StarOffice 5.2 might know what I
mean: this was the coolest and most useful feature of the StarOffice desktop
(that besides that was a very problematic feature).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 16:22:15 + 
2009 ---
No, there is no contradiction. We can solve this issue here and 19292 with and
without tabs, the concept/roadmap in the wiki I pointed to covers that all.
There is no difference between having two views to two different documents or
two views to one single document in one tab or task window (except that they
will have different menu entries or other UI means to create them). But the
arrangement of windows and the code to implement it will be the same. For this
part of the feature it's irrelevant whether the two (or even more) views are
part of a tab or a system task.

Having tabs and a tab bar inside OOo gives an additional advantage: you can move
view between tabs by DD on the tab bar. This is not possible with tabs in the
system task bar. All people that have used StarOffice 5.2 might know what I
mean: this was the coolest and most useful feature of the StarOffice desktop
(that besides that was a very problematic feature).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from gril...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 16:25:07 
+ 2009 ---
BTW, I posted a question a couple times, and still don't know people opinions on
that. Since I feel it's relevant, I'll do it again:

Why don't we merge this into Issue 19292? The latter contains this Issue, so
solving Issue 19292 will undoubtedly take care of both.

Pls share your thoughts. Thanks!

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 16:30:35 + 
2009 ---
Here's an example how it could look like (it's borrowed from StarOffice 5.2):

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Tabbed_Windows_Extension_Discussion#Should_users_be_allowed_to_reorganize_tabs.3F

It shows two document views in one window. As I wrote, it's irrelevant if the
views belong to one document or two.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 17:32:27 + 
2009 ---
By doing this we make clear that we won't get something as in Calc. Calc has an
internal view split and the split is part of the view of the Calc document.
That's not what I want, I want the more flexible solution that I outlined. But I
wanted to mention that uniting both issues would nail the solution to the
generic one.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread n7dr
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--- Additional comments from n...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 18:27:06 + 
2009 ---
 Why don't we merge this into Issue 19292? The latter contains this Issue, so
 solving Issue 19292 will undoubtedly take care of both.

I'm not sure that that's true. 19292 seems to request only a single split. I
would hate for the developers to think that no one is asking them to think about
implementing multiple splits.

My model for this is Konqueror (from KDE), which allows you to make as many
splits as you like, in both vertical and horizontal directions. The text editor
I use allows this also (as, I bet, does emacs). It is unbelievable useful,
especially on modern monitors that have so much space that one can easily use
half a dozen splits productively.

Of course, even a single split is far better than what we have now. But it sure
would be nice if the general problem was coded, rather than just the
1-horizontal-split problem.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from gril...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 22:00:19 
+ 2009 ---
n7dr, I'm not sure either. Issue 19292 says multiple files, without stating
whether this is limited to two or not. The reported used two files as an
example. I commented that the genererally mentioned workaround, resizing
windows, is worse for more than two files. Anyway, it doesn't hurt to ask,
right? I'll post this question there to get things clear.

mba, just for myself to undertand that clearly: does your solution* predict a
free number of splits and files? I mean, within practical limits.
*I saw your screenshot on the tabbed splitted view. AWESOME! IMHO, this would be
unbeatable.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-15 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 22:19:36 + 
2009 ---
yes, there won't be any *technical* limit. Whether the UI should set
restrictions is another question.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-14 Thread kissedsmiley
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--- Additional comments from kissedsmi...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 15 
02:45:05 + 2009 ---
I am not an Ooof programmer, but in my copious free time I will try to see how 
to stop this from 
languishing. From my quick partial scan of the architectural todo's, 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/To-Dos , it seems that there could be 
a problem regarding the 
spreadsheet not giving its functionality to the writer and vice versa.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-13 Thread wornways
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--- Additional comments from wornw...@openoffice.org Tue Jan 13 18:46:14 
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I have to agree with bluloo. I frown over the fact that I can't split my windows
each and every time I bring up an Open Doc. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-13 Thread hwtan
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--- Additional comments from hw...@openoffice.org Wed Jan 14 02:19:40 + 
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It seems like there is no developer reading this issue as it is assigned to :
requirements. So is there any way that we can bring it to their attention?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-12 Thread hwtan
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--- Additional comments from hw...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 12 09:11:13 + 
2009 ---
What is wrong here? After having 149 votes and since v. 1.0, there is still not
a milestone set! It is a shame to the developers and a big let down to all the
supporters of OOo. Please, developers, set the milestone as 3.1 and get it done
yesterday. Don't tell us it is difficult to do because I was using this feature
in Perfectwork 2.1, by Novell in the Windows 3.11 platform. It is a yesteryear
technology.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2009-01-12 Thread bluloo
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--- Additional comments from blu...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 12 16:38:39 
+ 2009 ---
If there's a reason this cannot be implemented, the Developers sould comment. It
would be much appreciated (as is all their other hard work). 

Unfortunately, I don't see the point in making further good-faith donations
until It's implemented because the app isn't all that practically useful to me
until it has split windows. Hopefully we'll see it in the near future.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-12-13 Thread rustybadger
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--- Additional comments from rustybad...@openoffice.org Sun Dec 14 00:02:02 
+ 2008 ---
I work for a public school district with a 1:1 laptop program for our students.
We use MS Word on those machines because Word has the split screen feature,
which has serious pedagogical benefits in the classroom. If OO had this feature,
we could save ourselves close to $20,000 per YEAR in licensing costs for M$
Orifice. This is the ONLY feature that is keeping us from switching to Open
Office on all our Macintosh laptops, but it's a serious one. All of our teachers
who use the laptops for their literacy improvement program have been trained by
the experts to use the split screen as a literacy aid for students. Especially
when working on 12 screens like our iBooks have, you cannot have two windows
open- there's simply not enough real estate. Furthermore, it adds complexity to
the task, and when you're working with Grade 4 students, that's the last thing
you want!

I assume that there's folks from Sun watching this thread: if you're out there,
contact me, please. We are willing to contribute some serious financial support
to get this implemented- as I said, we spend an astronomical amount of money on
MS every year, and we'd just love to give some of it to you if you'll help us
out here! I can guarantee you we're not the only ones in this situation as well-
I went to a conference in the summer with over a thousand teachers and
administrators from schools all over North America and the UK, many of them
having the same kind of programs in their schools. A lot of them would love to
switch to F/OSS, but they're kneecapped by lack of features that Microsoft has
played up on.

All we need is a simple horizontal split; when dragged downwards, both panes
show the same document, but are independently scrollable. We don't need two edit
points, or two cursors, or dual selection capabilities; just make it work
exactly like Word 2004 for Mac and you've got a winner in the schools. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-08-25 Thread wornways
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 25 16:03:49 + 
2008 ---
I for one would like to be able to utilize both the New Window feature and Split
Window, as implemented in MS Word. The type of documents I work in are organized
into three sections, all of which are edited simultaneously. The main section,
the actual work itself, would take up the right half of my screen. The other two
sections, both used for writing and keeping track of two or more different
threads of notes, would be take up the left half of my screen and be split into
two panes. Presently I have to muddle around with three separate windows, which
is not very elegant.

So I've added my vote for this issue. Hope it at least gets a milestone.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-07-25 Thread szofiel
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 25 19:56:38 + 
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Excuse me, but after some other people claiming for this very needed feature,
couldn't be used some sort of coding workaround that, instead of a clipart
window, there would be a similar button to do this job? Just a comment.


Thanks

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-07-24 Thread macias
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-06-10 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 10 20:41:08 + 
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Tora, which are your thoughts on this? Do you think we can get this moving?
Many thanks,

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-23 Thread dacrump
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 23 12:35:09 + 
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I need this. Writing long academic papers opening a new window is not quite the
answer, I used to be able to do this years ago with MS office etc and having
just bought a very large wide screen monitor for this purpose I'm somewhat
stunned to find I can't easily do it.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 13 09:22:16 + 
2008 ---
This is my own understandings - just one idea -.

 Split window of Writer
  It is for different views of one document.
   - Two or more split windows share one cursor mark and current positions.
   - Directly inserting or deleting letters in one split window reflects 
 inserting or deleting letters in other split window(s) at the same time 
 if viewed area is close to each other. 
   - Typing Asian characters through input method works at the current position 
 in one split window. No need to show candidates in other split window 
 while a user is choosing one of the candidates proposed by the input 
 method.  
   - An action of selecting texts in one split window is shared in another 
split 
 window or other split windows. 
   - Current cursor position will be stored in a file and retained upon loading 
 the file.

 New window of Writer
  It is for sharing one document with other users (normally one user)
   - Each window has own cursor mark and current positions. 
   - Directly inserting or deleting letters in one individual window reflects 
 inserting or deleting letters in other individual window(s) at the same 
 time if viewed area is close to each other. 
   - Typing Asian characters through input method works at the current position 
 in one individual window. No need to show candidates in other individual 
 windows while a user is choosing one of the candidates proposed by the 
 input method.  
   - An action of selecting texts in one individual window is NOT shared with 
 other individual windows.
   - File owner's current cursor position will be stored in a file and retained 
 upon loading the file. 

Cursor mark position is the location where you pressed a left mouse button 
and cursor current position is the location where cursor pointer currently is 
after you moved your mouse pointer. 

A new window could be displayed in the same display or other display, even or 
someone else's display if a remote window system allows the connection through 
such as a remote desktop connectivity. 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 13 09:43:56 + 
2008 ---
I forgot to mention this.

 Each new window is capable of having one of more split windows.

Thanks.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 13 10:05:56 + 
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@kieser:

 I know that this is getting a bit off topic, but can you give some rough
 guidelines as to when a patch will be less effort to do it yourself?

OOo is a very complex application. Sometimes a patch does not address all facets
and problems and either omitted important details, creates new bugs etc. Don't
misunderstand me: we will try to do our very best to get all patches integrated
we get (see e.g. http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/patch_integration). I just
wanted to point out that getting patches does not mean that you always save a
lot of time. Especially bigger features (like this one) usually aren't done in
patches and if they are done we still need several weeks of work to get them
integrated. A good example is issue 33737 where we already have invested 3-4
weeks of work for the integration and still are not done yet.

 If this issue isn't addresses in the next month or two, I will probably have
 some free time coming up and could do the fix myself. However, it's no use 
 doing the patch is it's not going to be accepted.

Of course if anybody wanted to work on this issue we will try to help. Working
on something is the easiest way to make us shift our priorities. :-)
See http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/why_all_issues_are_equal


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 13 14:07:50 + 
2008 ---
tora, great starting point. Let me dispute a couple ideas:
Two or more split windows share one cursor mark and current positions
When I need to edit a document seeing different parts of it simultaneously, I
want to be able to copy/paste and drag/drop portions of the text from both panes
(if we can call it this way). So there's the need of cursor mark and positions
to be independent among views.
An action of selecting texts in one split window is shared in another split
window or other split windows.
By the reason above, I think selections in one split window shouldn't be echoed
in other(s).
Current cursor position will be stored in a file and retained upon loading the
file.
I don't have much of an idea on how to deal with the file storing the positions,
but I guess there's two possibilities:
a)Electing one view (probably the first opened) as the main one and storing only
the main view cursor position
b)Storing positions and splittings in the file (this could get quite messy)
In short, it would be split windows with the specs you wrote for new windows.

It is for different views of one document
What's your thought on merging this discussion with the quite similar issue 
19292?

Many thanks for getting it moving (also for kieser) and best regards,
Emerson

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread ibcl
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 13 14:21:12 + 
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We do not need to include calc, because this app has horizontal and vertical
splitting capability.
I am not sure about a multi-window view, but split view is perfectly there in 
calc.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 13 14:13:04 + 
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Forgot to mention: despite we're starting the discussion on Writer, it's a good
idea to have in mind a future stretch to the other apps, at least Calc and 
Impress.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 13 15:05:04 + 
2008 ---
grillon: I can agree with you. 

Could you try Window | Split and Window | Freeze panes on Excel?
What you mention is somewhat similar to Freeze panes of Excel while 
my prior proposal is somewhat similar to Split of Excel. 

Maybe we can introduce both ideas in Writer as Excel does.

 1. Start Excel.
 2. Select a cell in the middle, center of window and choose Window | Split.
Now you have 4 panes, split horizontally and vertically. 
 3. Select a cell in the right bottom pane and press Ctrl-right arrow and 
Ctrl-down arrow to move to cell IV:65536, most far from A1.
 4. Now you can select a big area by selecting C3 in the left top pane and 
then selecting IT:65533 with holding a Shift key. 

 That is an example of selection. A staring point of an area is displayed 
 in one pane and ending point is shown in another pane.

Freeze panes of Excel does not have a horizontal or vertical scroll bar for 
upper and left panes. When we try to introduce the similar feature in Writer, 
we can add scroll bars for them. 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread okapi1253
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-13 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 13 21:40:26 + 
2008 ---
Er... I don't have M$O... I moved to a better suite a couple years ago ;)
But anyway, Calc also has Split and Freeze. I did what you suggested, and
it's a great thing indeed. Freeze is also great (I use it several times).
But what we're discussing here is two distinct, fully functional panes. By
allowing the user to have independent cursor positions and eventual area
selections, this feature becomes distinct of the current split and freeze.
As I said, I guess the proposal here is to have the functions you mentioned for
multiple windows, but viewed simultaneously in a single window. That is: one
window shows multiple instances of a file (and/or multiple files, as in issue
19292), with independent full editing capabilities for each one.

So I end up puzzled with 3 different ways of splitting data:
1.Freeze as in Calc. We cause a section to bond to the page limits, while the
other scrolls freely. We have a single cursor and, therefore, only one 
selection.
2.Split as in Calc. We divide the data so the different portions scroll
independently. Still a single cursor and selection.
3.Split as in M$O. We divide the window in more than one view, each one showing
a different part of one or more files. Each pane has its own cursor and 
selection.

I see both splits can be used in Writer.
The Calc split would work this way: the user selects a point in the text, hits
the funcion, then an horizontal or vertical (depending on the writing) divides
the screen (or maybe only the text page), allowing each side to scroll and the
cursor and selections to be shared between views. This would be quite useful and
less space-hungry than the multiple page view.
The M$O split would be like: the user opens the same file twice (or two
different files) and asks OOo to divide the window, and voilá - you have two
panes. Each one with fully independent cursors and selections and full editing
capabilities. So one could drag and drop, compare, etc., between two different
areas of the document or different documents. This is the killer feature
requested, and can be done for all apps. One could, this way, copy from a
spreadsheet to a text to a presentation, etc.

What do you think?
Best regards

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 10:39:21 + 
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You must be dreaming. :-) StarOffice never had that function. 

In StarOffice you could open two windows for the same document and you still can
do this in OpenOffice.org. The only additional functionality in StarOffice was
that it could rearrange the windows to be in the same task window. But as this
was possible only at a cost (lost system integration) that was removed in
OpenOffice.org.

For OpenOffice.org this needs to be done in another way. With the given
resources we can implement such features only one by one. For 3.0 we chose two
features we considered to be more important: improved notes and multiple page
view.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread mba
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread ibcl
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 11:02:55 + 
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The only additional functionality in StarOffice was that it could rearrange the
windows to be in the same task window. 

That's all we ask.

But as this was possible only at a cost (lost system integration) that was
removed in OpenOffice.org.

I never detected any lost system integretation, and I persume none of us would
care.

For 3.0 we chose two features we considered to be more important: improved
notes and multiple page view.

I admit those would be features, but on what grounds did you consider those more
important than repairing the damage you have done by removing split document 
view?
Do those features have more votes?

Btw., there are rumours Sun's OOo team has a tradition of rejecting any major
patches from other people or companies (like IBM, Novell, ...). If those rumours
are true it's clear why there is a lack of resources.
No offences, I'm just forwarding street talk.

And yes, I know, I shall feel free to (re)implement the demanded feature myself 
;-))


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 12:07:13 + 
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You shouldn't believe all the rumours you hear especially if they are spread by
the same people that hold back a lot of patches.

Fact is that we gratefully accept all patches we get. But sometimes this takes
even more time than doing it ourselves. :-)

About the importance: my own assessment is that a multiple page view will give
more users a greater benefit than a split view. This is based on more than 10
years of experience. I may be wrong (nobody is perfect ;-)), but that's life.
Until now I still think I'm right. :-)



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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread kieser
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 12:32:56 + 
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I know that this is getting a bit off topic, but can you give some rough
guidelines as to when a patch will be less effort to do it yourself?

If this issue isn't addresses in the next month or two, I will probably have
some free time coming up and could do the fix myself. However, it's no use doing
the patch is it's not going to be accepted.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 14:33:32 + 
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From what I could understand of multiple page view, it's the ability of seeing
adjacent pages of a single document in the same window. Though I agree it's
useful, I fully disagree it's more important than the split window feature.
While the adjacent page view is an improvement (and, as such, welcome) of what
we already have - Writer has a continuous flow view and OOo print preview can
show multiple pages - and is aimed mostly at Writer (Impress at most), split
windows is a full feature with a great impact on usability for all OOo 
applications.
Also, given OOo application integration, if it's done as proposed in issue 19292
(which can substitute this one, IMHO), will permit simultaneous view and editing
of different types of documents, such as text and presentations, for example.
This completely beats what I had in my previous suite (M$O 97), while the
multiple page view comes quite short of that.
It seems the decision is already made, but I just want to make devs aware of my
user point-of-view. In fact, this is the only feature I miss since I switched
from M$O.
Many thanks.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 16:13:12 + 
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Please give us more information around computing environment such as resolution 
of display like 800 x 600, the number of colors like 1 million, and what mainly 
office suite software is used for, etc.

This issue opened in 2003 and now we live in 2008. I guess that computer 
environment has been dramatically changed compared to 2003. 

This is my opinion. I do not currently need an idea of split-window, but will 
need much more other features. So I would like developers to spend time for 
enhancing and introducing other features. 

Why do I think so? I currently use 2560 x 1600 of LCD displays. With this
environment, the area of window title, menu bar, tool bars, and status bars 
occupies less than 10% of height of display. I do not need to take care of the
occupancy. 

I hate to use Window's like desktop environment such as GNOME or KDE, not to 
mention, Windows. I prefer a window manager fvwm2 that allows users have 
multiple virtual displays. Individual virtual displays lie side by side and 
thus a window of software can spread all over the displays. That means I have 
a 12800 x 8000 of virtual display with a setting of 5 x 5 virtual displays. 

Additionally, I apply focus-follow-mouse policy and auto-rise-window. I do not 
need to click some area of a window to change focus of window, just move cursor 
pointer on the desired window. The window, even it is behind the other windows, 
automatically rises up to the top. 

A window manager fvwm, predecessor of fvwm2, was available in the time of 
Windows 95. Windows-like desktop environment, however, has been dominating 
the PC markets for years, but I think such kind of poor environment leads 
much loss of productivity lasting for some decades. 

Sorry, those are somewhat off the topic. 

What I wanted to mention were: 
 - Larger display, less demands of split-window.
 - Times goes, technology enhances, becoming easier to have a larger display.
 - Within a few years, most people would not take care of this issue. 

Actually, from a technical point of view, implementation of split-window in 
an application takes much efforts than leaving a control of two windows to 
the window system provided by OS such as Windows, Mac OS, and UNIX. 
Demands of this issue would be diminishing. But there would be something 
that i have not noticed. 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread kieser
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 16:58:31 + 
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Oh the need for a split window is not just about screen size. It's about proper
editing of documents where one section refers to another or is related to it. It
affects many things, from cutting and pasting to proper formatting.

Two windows are nowhere near the same as a split window mode.

And although your solution works for you, others, including me, would hate it.
For me auto-focus is one of the worst features ever added to X. I don't want to
get into an auto-focus debate here, so won't list my reasons but believe me,
there are many people like me who simply hate it.

And the other issue is that yes, you may use X. As it happens, so do I. But most
people use Windows and OO competes with Office, so that's the target market.
That's where nearly all the potential users are right now.

Split window usage cannot be worked around successfully on M$ no matter what we
may think of M$ Windows as a platform. Neither can it be worked around
successfully on the Mac. There's 99% of the world's desktops immediately at a
disadvantage to Office in the OO v.s. Office competition.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread ibcl
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 17:53:58 + 
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Having two windows open does consume very much time for window arranging, and
still does not solve anything.

It even endangers the data, because alternately editing the document in 2 or
even 3 windows totally confuses OOo and one never knows which window is for real
(I just re-tested with OOo 2.4).

Besides operating two distant but related parts of a document there are other
nice applications for multiple _synchronized_ (!!!) views on the very same part
of a document:
Having one non-print-layout view (better for typing and editing) and one
_synchronized_ WYSIWYG view (to see what's being printed).

As of screen sizes:
You cannot assume large displays.
I love my 24 1920x1200 screen in the office, and I know of developers with e.g.
3200x1200 dual screen desktops, but far over 50% of people work on laptops or
cheap desktop PCs with 1024x768 usally, 1400x900 tops.
During the last say 12 years, the average office PC resolution hasn't even
completed the step from 1024x768 (17 CRT, 15 LCD) to around 1280x1024 (19
LCD) or 1400x900 (some 15 widescreen laptops).



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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread tora
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 18:33:01 + 
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Thank you for the valued comments.

Needs:
 1) To refer to a different part of a document
 2) To refer to a beginning and ending part of an area

Measures:
 a) split-window
 b) two windows

 We are not required to choose one of them. We could incorporate both of 
 them and leave users a chance to choose it. 

Specifications:
= How to split a window =
 In horizontal writing, a window should be split horizontally into upper part 
 and lower part. In vertical writing, a window should be split vertically into 
 left part and right part. 

 Word 2003 splits a window horizontally in vertical writing. It is really mess. 
 Imagine that you are working on an English document, what do you feel if 
 the window gets split vertically and both parts of window has a horizontal 
 scroll bar. You should move it back and forth to see an entire line. 
 If we try to introduce split-window, we should consider vertical writing, too.

= Selection =
 To select a region, locate a cursor somewhere in the split-window A and then 
 locate a cursor somewhere in the split-window B with holding a Shift key. 

 Word 2003 does not work in such a way. An attempt of locating a cursor fails, 
 but simply makes a focus changed to the target window. 

 If we try to incorporate split-window, it would be better to take care of 
 selection. 

= Short cut key =
 To switch window, somewhat better short cut key or key sequence might be 
 needed. 

 With Word 2003, an attempt of switching between split-windows by Alt-TAB 
fails. 
 That short cut key brings us to other application's window. Is there any 
 convenience short cut key already incorporated on Word 2003 or 2007?


If we want to proceed this issue, we would need more user scenarios and 
discuss them and devise their solutions. We could refer to other software, 
but would not need to exactly mimic other software. For instance, specs of 
split-window of Word might be defined under the circumstances of small 
(800 x 600) screen in the 8 or 16 bit era. In comparison, we are currently 
living in 64 bit era with more than 1000 dot resolution screen, We do not 
need to follow such traditional, conventional, outdated, ... specifications. 

In addition, we should concentrate on what users and customers desire. User 
means those who use a software on a daily basis while customer means those who 
decide what software is chosen and give an approval of plan and/or budget. 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 19:26:33 + 
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tora, I understand your view as a high-end user, but unfortunately this
situation changes a lot among users:
The vast majority of computer users I know of have 15 or 17 monitors with
resolutions either 1024x768 or 800x600. Greater than that is pretty rare.
Very little people use a good window manager. In fact, the vast majority have
Windows installed. OTOH, few would have patience to do the managing themselves.
I'd never use focus-follow-mouse for reasons beyond our discussion here.
This could be taken care of by OSs in a few years, but we don't know how many
(let alone the majority of users get the solution). We will have in the near
future a solution which is not as good as what the competition brought over 10
years ago.

I know split windows is not a simple solution and apologize for the 'me too'
flooding. But what I really want is to have the reasons clear. For people like
me, which I believe to be many, split windows is still the feature of choice.

Best regards

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread ibcl
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 19:35:35 + 
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If horizontal and vertical splitting are possible, I'd offer both at any time.
With large wide screens vertical splitting absolutely can make sense even with
horizontal writing. See gvim (aka vim-gtk) and xemacs.

Selecting text the way you described would be nice, but not a necessary part of
a new split window view. 
The split window implementation of M$ Word 2000 would satisfy most of us,
despite the imperfections you mentioned.

That's a general remark: Sometimes a feature is better in than out, even if it
is incomplete, experimental, looks awful, ...

As of example applications, I can name some apps aside MSO:

Word processors:
+ KWord (split windows and multiple windows, synchronized)
+ AbiWord (synchronized multiple windows)
+ StarOffice in late 1990ies ;-))

Text editors (unfair to compare with them, but still):
+ vi in all variants
+ emacs in all variants
+ nedit

Top list of apps not providing real split windows:
- OOo
- KDevelop 3.x (Feature scheduled for KDevelop 4.x)
- Eclipse 3.x (Eclipse Bug 8009, Feature has chances for 4.x; same painful
discussion there)



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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread ibcl
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 19:38:20 + 
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grillon wrote:
We will have in the near future a solution which is not as good as what the
competition brought over 10 years ago.

Did you mean We want to have supporting our demands or did you really mean We
will have promising us something beeing in progress?


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 19:50:29 + 
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(Bah, forget my last message, I only saw tora's reply after submitting it)
Selection: I dunno what's exactly the hard part here, but IMHO it should be
independent window-wise. Also, selecting a display area and a cursor position
should be retained indefinitely as the window goes out of focus. No shift-click
is necessary as far as simple editing is concerned. But, since you use an
advanced window manager and I don't, you are probably aware of more tricks than
I do. Pls share them so we can sync our thoughts.
Shortcut key: what about Ctrl-Tab? This is the common shortcut used in most
Windoze apps.
On the issue of splitting horizontally or vertically and horizontal or vertical
writing: well, the customer can decide whether to split vertically or
horizontally depending on his needs. I don't think this is a real problem.

Many thanks.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-12 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 12 20:10:39 + 
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ibcl, I understood we will indeed have multiple page view in OOo 3.0, based on
both mba's comments and information on the Web. Of course, I cannot promise
anything at all, even whether if there will be 3.0 at all...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-05-07 Thread ibcl
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May  7 20:11:06 + 
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For the record:
The first public beta of OOo 3.0 still has no sign of this feature.

Of course I agree that a Word processor without split windows cannot compete
with anything.

The worst thing is: The feature has always been there in OOo's predecessor
StarOffice.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-04-10 Thread lamarcbr
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 10 16:29:42 + 
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I to am perplexed by the lack of commitment pertaining to this request. This 
is a feature that I use almost daily in all office program. It is proposed 
earlier in this post that the same result can be achieved by tiling the 
document windows. If so, why was it decided that this feature had value in 
Calc and Impress/Draw but not Writer? Your hard work is appreciated but I am 
not sure how to escalate this request given all the other remarkable work that 
is happening concerning OO.org. Maybe I should give this issue all my votes.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-04-10 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 10 19:59:10 + 
2008 ---
Yes, pls vote here if you agree this issue is crucial. I read somewhere that OOo
wants to beat M$O in version 3.0. So they probably are considering the issue,
because it'll never beat M$O otherwise.
BTW, I'll leave a suggestion here: to merge this with issue 19292, since that
one would hopefully solve this one.
Best regards all.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-04-09 Thread bernd_schoeler
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-03-24 Thread shrishag75
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-02-18 Thread kpalagin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 18 13:59:03 + 
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*** Issue 71654 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2008-02-18 Thread martinz
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 19 01:53:02 + 
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I can't believe that a four-and-half years old issue with so many requests (see 
the number of posts, votes and duplicated issues) hasn't even a milestone set. 
Or at least an answer. Makes me feel that developers don't care about users 
opinion.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2007-12-07 Thread foxcole
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec  7 14:39:52 + 
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I too would like to see this implemented sooner than version 3.0, yet it's not
even marked for that milestone, let alone a sooner release. This is in fact a
very important feature, and users who need this feature are not served by the
workaround of two separate edit windows... especially when working on multiple
documents, as others have noted here. That becomes a nightmare. Please assign
this issue a target milestone.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2007-10-31 Thread fernan_aguero
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 31 14:42:52 + 
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Why is this feature available in Calc but not in writer?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2007-04-05 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr  5 20:54:16 + 
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Issue 76126 suggests to allow horizontal as well as vertical splitting and also
the idea to have more than one part.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2007-04-05 Thread mba
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2007-03-12 Thread terablade2001
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 12 07:28:39 + 
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As I see there are many people that need to split up windows in Writer. In my
(dup) Issue (75223) I have a screenshot between the way to split document in 2
windows, and the way MSOffice do it with split screen. The space that the
duplicated bars take, is a negative (-specially if you have 2 toolbards in the
top part - i have the second one in column left) of using 2 windows. And I see
that this usefull for many users (that use OOWriter for proffesional and not
only reasons) feature hasnt been set to created since OOo 1.1 RC4 to 2.1
version. Anyway..

Split Window is a good feature that we need it :)

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2007-03-11 Thread kpalagin
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2006-11-24 Thread grillon
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 24 06:18:49 -0800 
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Hi all,
Since this issue is kinda similar to 19292, I'll repeat some arguments from 
there:

Using multiple windows gets cumbersome when:
1.I have to resize windows
2.I switch to other applications
3.Documents get numerous (in fact, I can get nuts trying that with 3 of them)
Also, the multiple buttons in the taskbar also make it too polluted (this is a
problem in Windoze, dunno if other OSs also suffer from this).

I'd also ask that Component and Version be set to all, since this is
useful for many components and happens in different versions (mine is 2.0.3).

Thanks,

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2006-11-13 Thread mmp
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 13 04:53:48 -0800 
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add my votes

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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2006-11-13 Thread bluloo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 13 06:01:04 -0800 
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Please add the split window/split view feature to OO as soon as practical.

thank you



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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2006-11-06 Thread tora
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2006-11-06 Thread tora
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|chtra,pinkernell,sforbes,t|r,okapi1253,peschtra,pinke
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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2006-07-16 Thread kpalagin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 16 10:05:49 -0700 
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Dear developers,
please consider introducing this feature into all (or at least Calc and 
Writer) of OOo applications.
This is very usefull and highly used with competing products feature.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 19291] Split Windows for single d ocument

2006-07-07 Thread ibcl
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