Re: [AMRadio] SX-28 help

2003-12-31 Thread Vince Wesa Werber
Soo, you need Maine e???  Got a deed right here and the price is 
low... heeheeheehee

Seriously, when are you planning to operate??  I'm good for late at night or 
early mornings...  You might be able to hear the old 32V1...  who knows... 
worth a try...
:-)
vince
ka1iic
p.s. I have some QSL cards around here somewhere...


On Tuesday 30 December 2003 10:52 am, w5sum wrote:
 hi Vince
 man.. I really need Maine bad for my 75M AM WAS. Wonder if we could arrange
 a sked?

 Ronnie




Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes

2003-12-31 Thread W7QHO
In a message dated 12/30/03 5:24:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  But every once in a while I hear that storing power tubes in a cold
 climate somehow degrades them or renders them useless.
 
All,

I remember seeing a warning somewhere a number of years ago about storing 
certain power tubes at subzero temperatures.   As I remember, the 100TH and 
250TH 
were mentioned specifically. Seems the tungsten filaments can contract and 
fracture.   Seems possible, but I have never experienced this personally and 
pass along the information for whatever it's worth.

Dennis D.   W7QHO
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Re: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread W7QHO
In a message dated 12/30/03 3:48:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I think its just a banana plug connection. Thats what my 11M77 250 watt
 model uses in my homebrew 813 rig.
 
 

Interesting   My T11M74 40 watt unit would require a connector somewhat 
smaller than a standard bananna plug.

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Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes

2003-12-31 Thread Geoff Edmonson
   But every once in a while I hear that storing power tubes in a cold
  climate somehow degrades them or renders them useless.

 I remember seeing a warning somewhere a number of years ago about storing
 certain power tubes at subzero temperatures.   As I remember, the 100TH and
 250TH were mentioned specifically. Seems the tungsten filaments can
 contract and fracture.   Seems possible, but I have never experienced this
 personally and pass along the information for whatever it's worth.

I was never warned about storing tubes in the cold (In South Texas, we got to 
27 this morning, for about and hour or so, the back to 64 for a high) but I 
WAS warned by Mr. AM (rip) John L. Mohn/W5MEU - Store them tubes vertically!

The filament can sag and fall into the grid, causing a short.  At least on the 
bigger jugs - 811's, 813's, 100TH's, 250TH/L's, etc...

Happy New Year y'all

73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR

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Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes

2003-12-31 Thread Donald Chester


BTW, where in 4-land are you where it gets below zero?  I thought you folks 
had it easy down there compared to those in the great white north? (o:


Here in north middle TN, it normally gets below zero a time or two each 
winter, but the last few winters have stayed above zero.  The coldest I 
personally remember was -18.  According to the local highway dep't, it has 
dipped to -20.  But that's not normal for this region.


I also have heard the story about cold storage of tubes.  I suspect tubes 
like the 250TH, which already have a brittle filament, would not stand 
physical vibration while at that temperature.


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Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes

2003-12-31 Thread David Knepper
Can anyone explain the difference between the filaments in an ordinary light
bulb with that of a transmitting tube.  The point that I am attemting to
make is that outside lighting - like the lights on our barn withstand
tremendous cold durin the winter and then when evening comes, the filament
is shocked with 120 volts.  These bulbs seem to last forever, particularly,
street lights.

I am sure that the filaments are made of different material but thought I
would ask the so-called experts.

Thank you and Happy New Year
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Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes




 BTW, where in 4-land are you where it gets below zero?  I thought you
folks
 had it easy down there compared to those in the great white north? (o:

 Here in north middle TN, it normally gets below zero a time or two each
 winter, but the last few winters have stayed above zero.  The coldest I
 personally remember was -18.  According to the local highway dep't, it has
 dipped to -20.  But that's not normal for this region.

 I also have heard the story about cold storage of tubes.  I suspect tubes
 like the 250TH, which already have a brittle filament, would not stand
 physical vibration while at that temperature.

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Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes

2003-12-31 Thread David Knepper
I wished that I had used spell check on my post.

attempting and during

In my humble opinion, the reason for the filament to shatter, break, snap,
open, split; crack, divides, etc. or  whatever occurs is physical jarring.
However, I had a gentleman in New Zealand ship me two 75TH tubes for my
30K-1 and they arrived in great shape.  Think of how many frequent-flyer
miles these tubes had since leaving the factory in California.

Best of everything in 2004.


Dave, W3ST
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Publisher of the Collins Journal
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From: David Knepper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes


 Can anyone explain the difference between the filaments in an ordinary
light
 bulb with that of a transmitting tube.  The point that I am attemting to
 make is that outside lighting - like the lights on our barn withstand
 tremendous cold durin the winter and then when evening comes, the filament
 is shocked with 120 volts.  These bulbs seem to last forever,
particularly,
 street lights.

 I am sure that the filaments are made of different material but thought I
 would ask the so-called experts.

 Thank you and Happy New Year
 Dave, W3ST
 Secretary to the Collins Radio Association
 Publisher of the Collins Journal
 www.collinsra.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Donald Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes


 
 
  BTW, where in 4-land are you where it gets below zero?  I thought you
 folks
  had it easy down there compared to those in the great white north? (o:
 
  Here in north middle TN, it normally gets below zero a time or two each
  winter, but the last few winters have stayed above zero.  The coldest I
  personally remember was -18.  According to the local highway dep't, it
has
  dipped to -20.  But that's not normal for this region.
 
  I also have heard the story about cold storage of tubes.  I suspect
tubes
  like the 250TH, which already have a brittle filament, would not stand
  physical vibration while at that temperature.
 
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[AMRadio] RCA Mixer Board

2003-12-31 Thread David Knepper
BC-8 RCA board for sale - $200 - pickup only near Johnstown, PA

Removed from service -  very presentable next to your heavy metal
transmitter or in studio A

Thank you.

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RE: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-31 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
Many RF gain controls work by a voltage divider setup, a pot
with the wiper going to the cathode of a stage, one terminal going
to ground, the other to a positive voltage source.
This allows the cathode voltage to go to ground (rf gain max),
to a small positive voltage (rf gain minimum).

Other circuits use the AGC setup on multiple stages.
Don't assume the pot is good, or the correct value.
The pinched wire could have ruined the pot, some PO 
could have changed the pot because of the pinched wire, etc.

You need to reference the diagram and check values and connections,
many older receivers were modified for better SSB reception (yuk!).

If a pot went open, or was too high a value, the rf gain will 
be normal when the wiper is grounded, but as soon as its off the
end point, its open...

Many older receivers (not the SX28 I think) did different
things with the gain control in SSB/CW mode, on my G76, the audio
gain control turns into an RF gain control...

On my SX17, the bfo is separate, and does not interact with the
RF gain circuit.
I think the RF gain control is the voltage divider type.
I think there is also an AGC on off switch.

Great sounding receivers, all those that Hallicrafters made
with the nice push pull audio output, puts receivers
that use a 6aq5 or some such to shame, and people don't
know what they are missing, listening to good AM
on the typical receiver, even high end modern stuff.
It sounds better than side band, but it can be as much of a difference
between a good and bad audio amp as between ssb and AM.

The Scott SLRM receiver I have seems to have a real hi fi 
audio amp, with no driver transformer in the audio stages, and even
a position on the selectivity control marked hi fi.
Broad as a barn door!
Push pull 25L6 tubes!

Brett
N2DTS




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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of w5sum
 Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 5:47 PM
 To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question
 
 
 well 24 hours of work and she is coming along nicely. The 
 audio section is 
 fine now. Sound graaat..
 She is not working on the top two bands but we'll cross that 
 bridge later.
 
 the RF gain control was not working at all. I found a pinched 
 wire that was 
 grounded.  This was the wire going to the cathode resistor of 
 V-1. I fixed 
 this, and even put a new pot in there for the RF Gain. It 
 works BUT.. all you 
 have to do is just barely turn it and it blanks out the front 
 end. Could one 
 of the cathode resistors have changed value, canceling out 
 the work of the rf 
 gain control? R-3 to V-1 or R8 to V-2? Or, possibly, C14 on 
 V-1 or C18 on V-2?
 
 looks like they will be tough to get to if that is the case.
 
 your ideas gentleman?
 
 your 
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[AMRadio] AM Night

2003-12-31 Thread David Knepper
Come join us on 3805 + or - this evening at 8 PM EST for the CRA Collins AM
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RE: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
Thordarson used some type of push pins, they came with the iron.

I had a BIG mod transformer, the T-11m78 that had screw terminals,
I used it in the 30K-1, and it went with it when I sold it.
I have the same transformer with the push pins, its
much smaller, has rounded sides, push pins on the side.
Must have been a change, the older ones having the terminals?

The T-11M78 worked very well in the 30K-1, at 2500 volts.
Sounded quite good to me.


I have not looked at it, but its likely possible to change out
the push pins, by replacing the entire insulators, or adding
a screw through each push pin with nuts, lock washers, etc.

I have some of the push pins, but you need quite a few in
some configurations, my pair of 4D32 transmitter will be low
impedance, and need to parallel up both the primary and secondary,
lots of push pins!

The new project (4D32 rig) has changed from a transceiver to the
worlds largest and most complex 200 watt AM transmitter,
with separate decks for rf, rf control, modulator, power
supplies (one for modulator, one for RF, with variac),
and eventually, a home brew VFO/exciter.

The thordarson mod transformer will go into it.

I will need to experiment with it, the 4D32 tubes can
run with higher voltages, 1000 volts I have been told.
At 600/700 volts, the power output should be 200 watts,
who knows with 1000 volts on the plates.

Ray tells me the article on the second home brew receiver
will start in the January issue of Electric Radio.


Brett
N2DTS

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd Bigelow - PS
 Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:32 PM
 To: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question
 
 
 Thanks to the link that Pete posted earlier, I found the 
 information on 
 a mod transformer found at a hamfest a few years back. It's a 
 Thordarson 
 Multi-Match model T-11M78, 300-500 watt model. Something puzzles me, 
 though - in the listing information it says Features Thordarson 
 Switchboard Plug-in Terminal Board for quick and accurate matching of 
 tube loads. Now, I noticed that the terminals didn't have a typical 
 threaded screw hole or post like most others, but I have no idea what 
 kind of 'plug-in' plugs it uses. Is there anyone out there who could 
 shed some light on this matter for me?
 
 Many thanks -
 
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Re: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-31 Thread Geoff Edmonson
 the RF gain control was not working at all. I found a pinched wire that was
 grounded.  This was the wire going to the cathode resistor of V-1. I fixed
 this, and even put a new pot in there for the RF Gain. It works BUT.. all
 you have to do is just barely turn it and it blanks out the front end.
 Could one of the cathode resistors have changed value, canceling out the
 work of the rf gain control? R-3 to V-1 or R8 to V-2? Or, possibly, C14 on
 V-1 or C18 on V-2?

Just a silly-assed question, Ronnie - mainly because I don't remember...
but is there an AGC control switch on the front of the SX-28?  It should be 
ON.  Without the AGC circuit being active, you could have the same effect - 
any signal would send the front-end to saturation.

Happy New Year!
73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR

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RE: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread Mike Wells
I stand corrected. Now that you mentioned it I agree the holes are smaller
than the standard banana plug, however, it is a push in plug so finding the
correct diameter is the only problem.



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In a message dated 12/30/03 3:48:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I think its just a banana plug connection. Thats what my 11M77 250 watt
 model uses in my homebrew 813 rig.



Interesting   My T11M74 40 watt unit would require a connector somewhat
smaller than a standard bananna plug.

Dennis D.   W7QHO
Glendale, CA



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Re: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-31 Thread Geoff Edmonson
I spewed my drink all over the monitor when on Wednesday 31 December 2003 
08:48, w5sum said (and I am -not- making this up!)::

 good morning Jeff

 yes there is an AVC switch and it is on... I think the problem is, that
 this is a non linear pot I dug up... measuring the resistance, it moves
 slowly for just a (little bit), then it JUMPS quickly... I'm going to 
change
 this out first

Sounds like the culprit.

While you're checking on things, make sure you know you're not addressing the 
whole list ;-)

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Re: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-31 Thread ronnie.hull
its an old age thing!!



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Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:54:14 -0600
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

 I spewed my drink all over the monitor when on Wednesday 31 December 
 2003 
 08:48, w5sum said (and I am -not- making this up!)::
 
  good morning Jeff
 
  yes there is an AVC switch and it is on... I think the problem is, that
  this is a non linear pot I dug up... measuring the resistance, it moves
  slowly for just a (little bit), then it JUMPS quickly... I'm going to 
 change
  this out first
 
 Sounds like the culprit.
 
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Re: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread Todd Bigelow - PS

Brett Gazdzinski wrote:


Thordarson used some type of push pins, they came with the iron.

I had a BIG mod transformer, the T-11m78 that had screw terminals,
I used it in the 30K-1, and it went with it when I sold it.
I have the same transformer with the push pins, its
much smaller, has rounded sides, push pins on the side.
Must have been a change, the older ones having the terminals?
 

Okay, this makes sense. Mine is the one with the rounded corners, 
wrinkle paint on the end bells. Nice nickel-plated 'acorn' cap nuts on 
the ends. The openings look too small for a banana plug but they 
definitely don't looked threaded either. What do these push pins look 
like and does anyone have a picture or know of a site that shows them? I 
don't recall seeing anything anywhere here that would work, but they 
could be in a parts drawer or box full of 'stuff' and without knowing 
what to look for, I could pass them over easily (I have a lot of 'stuff').



The T-11M78 worked very well in the 30K-1, at 2500 volts.
Sounded quite good to me.



This one is about the size, maybe a bit larger than the plate 
transformer in my 30K-5, the side tag says 300-500 watts.



I have not looked at it, but its likely possible to change out
the push pins, by replacing the entire insulators, or adding
a screw through each push pin with nuts, lock washers, etc.



Looks like you'd have to pull the entire side panel off and replace the 
insulators as one unit on this one, but I could be wrong. One could 
probably stuff large diameter, stiff wire into the holes too, but I'd 
like to do it as close to 'right' as possible.



I have some of the push pins, but you need quite a few in
some configurations, my pair of 4D32 transmitter will be low
impedance, and need to parallel up both the primary and secondary,
lots of push pins!



Sounds like these pins must have a hollow head, allowing you to stuff 
one inside another to double things up?  This one has 6 insulators down 
each side, and the holes are maybe 2-3 times the diameter of a pencil 
lead. Physically it appears to be the same size as the mod transformer 
for the 300G, with more connections. But I'm assuming that since the mod 
transformer for the 300G was a specific unit (instead of multi-match), 
it required fewer connection points and used studs instead of push pins. 
The opening for those push pins looks wimpy as all hell compared to the 
studs.


~ Todd  KA1KAQ



Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes

2003-12-31 Thread Todd Bigelow - PS

David Knepper wrote:


I wished that I had used spell check on my post.

attempting and during

In my humble opinion, the reason for the filament to shatter, break, snap,
open, split; crack, divides, etc. or  whatever occurs is physical jarring.



I'd agree with this. And as Geoff pointed out, sagging over time if 
stored incorrectly could be a problem too. I have an old 250TL still in 
its metal shipping frame, hanging upside down but vertically, suspended 
by springs. Amazing what they used for packaging back then!



However, I had a gentleman in New Zealand ship me two 75TH tubes for my
30K-1 and they arrived in great shape.  Think of how many frequent-flyer
miles these tubes had since leaving the factory in California.



Indeed. I'd be curious Dave, to hear what kind of plate cap arrangement 
yours use. I broke one on the mod 5 by trying to take it out of the base 
and slip it out where I could get to the cap. Someone came up with a 
split-cap design held in place by two of those ring clips requiring 
special pliers to remove. Just the slight amount of torque from lifting 
the tube out of the socket *slightly* was enough to cause the top seal 
the break. Found a pair last spring at a hamfest, after looking for a 
couple of years. Also, I thought the 30K-1 used 75TLs, or was that just 
'early design' and production ended up going with the TH?


~ Todd  KA1KAQ



RE: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread Donald Chester
Something puzzles me, though - in the listing information it says Features 
Thordarson Switchboard Plug-in Terminal Board for quick and accurate 
matching of tube loads. Now, I noticed that the terminals didn't have a 
typical threaded screw hole or post like most others, but I have no idea 
what kind of 'plug-in' plugs it uses. Is there anyone out there who could 
shed some light on this matter for me?


They take a smooth pin, similar to the filament pin on a 4-pin tube socket.  
I don't think standard size banana plugs work.  Special plugs came with the 
transformers.  Lacking the plugs, try various sizes of large gauge copper 
wire, or small diameter brass rod stock from the hardware store.   You might 
even experiment with pins removed from (defunct) tubes if you have any lying 
around.  The pin should plug in with a snug fit, but not be forced in.  Once 
you figure out the optimum size, it shouldn't be difficult to come up with 
something to make a set of homebrew plugs.


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Re: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread Donald Chester
Mine is the one with the rounded corners, wrinkle paint on the end bells. 
Nice nickel-plated 'acorn' cap nuts on the ends. The openings look too 
small for a banana plug but they definitely don't looked threaded either. 
What do these push pins look like and does anyone have a picture or know of 
a site that shows them?


As I recall, the stock pins are mounted on little round plastic (bakelite?) 
discs that attach to the connecting wire.



I have not looked at it, but its likely possible to change out
the push pins, by replacing the entire insulators, or adding
a screw through each push pin with nuts, lock washers, etc.


Looks like you'd have to pull the entire side panel off and replace the 
insulators as one unit on this one


It would be a shame to ruin a vintage unit like that.  Those things are 
classics.  Another problem, some of them are potted with tar.  You would 
have to heat the whole transformer to melt the tar in order to disengage the 
side panel to get at the receptacles.  That would be messy, as best, and at 
worse, you could damage or ruin the transformer in the process.




I have some of the push pins, but you need quite a few in
some configurations...


... One could probably stuff large diameter, stiff wire into the holes 
too...


That would be the best bet until you can find some proper pins.  Murphy says 
that if you successfully modify the transformer, you will find a set of real 
push-pin plugs at the next hamfest.



but I'd like to do it as close to 'right' as possible.


I'd stay away from doing anything to modify the original transformer.

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Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes

2003-12-31 Thread David Knepper
Todd, you have to be very careful when removing those 75TH tubes, which were
the original types used in the 30K-1.

What you need are adapters that slip over the grid pins.  These were made by
Eimac to be used with any of these tubes that had that pin arrangement.
These caps slipped over the pins and were much more sturdy than the grid
pins.

All my best.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Need advice on storing RF power tubes


 David Knepper wrote:

 I wished that I had used spell check on my post.
 
 attempting and during
 
 In my humble opinion, the reason for the filament to shatter, break,
snap,
 open, split; crack, divides, etc. or  whatever occurs is physical
jarring.
 

 I'd agree with this. And as Geoff pointed out, sagging over time if
 stored incorrectly could be a problem too. I have an old 250TL still in
 its metal shipping frame, hanging upside down but vertically, suspended
 by springs. Amazing what they used for packaging back then!

 However, I had a gentleman in New Zealand ship me two 75TH tubes for my
 30K-1 and they arrived in great shape.  Think of how many frequent-flyer
 miles these tubes had since leaving the factory in California.
 

 Indeed. I'd be curious Dave, to hear what kind of plate cap arrangement
 yours use. I broke one on the mod 5 by trying to take it out of the base
 and slip it out where I could get to the cap. Someone came up with a
 split-cap design held in place by two of those ring clips requiring
 special pliers to remove. Just the slight amount of torque from lifting
 the tube out of the socket *slightly* was enough to cause the top seal
 the break. Found a pair last spring at a hamfest, after looking for a
 couple of years. Also, I thought the 30K-1 used 75TLs, or was that just
 'early design' and production ended up going with the TH?

 ~ Todd  KA1KAQ

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Re: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread Donald Chester



What's the OD and length of the pins you need? There's probably something
around that someone will know of that's very close if you can measure the 
ones
you've got - when I couldn't find pins for my Johnson swr bridge, it turned 
out
that normal bananas with the flat blades removed yielded pins of the 
correct

OD (better lucky than smart, probably better both).

Alternatively, round brass stock from the hobby/hardware shop is easy to 
work

with, and probably comes in a size very close to the right OD as well.


Another thought - something I have done more than once.  If stock round 
brass rods are slightly too large and you don't have a metal lathe, you can 
jury rig a lathe by chucking the rod in a small high-speed electric drill. 
 Hold a fine-tooth flat file against the rod and switch on the drill.  You 
can easily dress the rod, taking off a mill or two of diameter in a very 
short time.  With a little care and patience you can end up with a uniform 
diameter exactly the size you need.  Just keep testing by seeing how easily 
it inserts into the receptacles until you can get a snug fit that doesn't 
require forcefully jamming it into place.  I once made a slightly oversize 
nominal size shaft precisely fit a dial bushing that way.  You can fine 
tune, using emory cloth or sandpaper once you get close using the file.  Of 
course a real lathe and knowledge of how to use it would be much better.


Don k4kyv

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Re: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread Todd Bigelow - PS

Donald Chester wrote:
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It would be a shame to ruin a vintage unit like that.  Those things 
are classics.  Another problem, some of them are potted with tar.  You 
would have to heat the whole transformer to melt the tar in order to 
disengage the side panel to get at the receptacles.  That would be 
messy, as best, and at worse, you could damage or ruin the transformer 
in the process.


I'd stay away from doing anything to modify the original transformer.

Don K4KYV 


Don and group: I agree completely. This transformer itself could be a 
work of art just in the design, paint, and attention given to details 
like the cap nuts. The insulators are a deep brown porcelain with a 
wonderful shine, like new. I've had this unit for about a decade, having 
purchased it at a hamfest for $10 from a university that was cleaning 
house. My biggest concern was using it somewhere in a rig where I'd 
never see it! It looks that good.


It didn't come with pins though, and since all the iron I've come into 
contact with either had studs or wires, I'm just at a loss for what 
these pins look like. But you can rest assured, I'm not about to do 
anything to modify this unit to simplify its use. I have enough stuff 
around here to muck with as it is. I wouldn't mind using stiff wire 
temporarily, but I'd prefer to use the correct hardware if possible.


Out in my garage there is also a HUGE power supply purchased from a 
friend mainly to obtain the large UTC (I think) HV transformer in it. 
It's close to 3 feet long and a foot high inside of a footlocker-sized 
rolling cabinet with a clear plexiglass end, and took 3 of us to roll it 
up into a pickup. It's not as 'finished' looking as the Thordarson mod 
iron, but it's not bad looking. Someday , given enough time and enough 
floor space, they'd be the makings of a great HB rig. Not sure how to 
put a viewing window in that far down the cabinet, though.


~ Todd  KA1KAQ




Re: [AMRadio] Thordarson transformer question

2003-12-31 Thread Todd Bigelow - PS

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What's the OD and length of the pins you need? There's probably something 
around that someone will know of that's very close if you can measure the ones 
you've got




Scott -

No idea what I'm looking for, the insulators stick out about half an 
inch and a jeweler's screwdriver will slide in about 3/4 inch. For all I 
know, there may be something similar to what came with it lurking in a 
box around here somewhere. The only thing that comes to mind are the old 
'phone tip/pin' plugs on early headsets. Something along those lines I'm 
guessing?


~ Todd  KA1KAQ