[AMRadio] Off Topic and Heated arguments
Lets try to keep the heat turned down. I detect a little flame nipping at some. Brian - w5ami List administrator -- There is nothing more uncommon than common sense. -- Frank Lloyd Wright __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
The other alternative could be, no input to any band plan; AM is phone; I'll operate phone wherever my license privileges allow and deal with my adjacent frequencies on a case by case basis. Putting a band plan with AM related info on an AM only web site, means nothing, if the rest of the amateur world knows nothing about it. Pete, wa2cwa You bet Pete, I am sure the editor at QST would be happy to publish it. We would have a better chance at CQ, but in the event that they would not, it would be published. 73 Jim W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Dial Glass
I just e-mailed him. We need all the AM guys. Joe W4AAB - Original Message - From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Dial Glass Thanks Todd! Yeah, wish he'd come back on with us... On 10/13/06, Todd, KA1KAQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/13/06, A.R.S. - W5AMI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He used to be a member of this list until someone that also used to be a member of this list ticked him off. I think his last name is something like 'Almquest' or something along that line. Close! Dee C. Almquist email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would be nice to get ol' Dee back into the fold. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net -- There is nothing more uncommon than common sense. -- Frank Lloyd Wright __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic
Tom, your discourse on the no code licensing was great. I have never looked down at a n/c Extra as being inferior, except in jest, but I can remember having one hell of a time getting my code speed up past 20wpm at the same time I had the theory down pat. They never seemed in sync. I never had to earn my living in the electronics business so the theory was often Greek to me, still is. But understand that a lot of Extras that did have to pass the 20 wpm requirement feel that the FCC or ARRL sold them down the river by eliminating it. Lets face it, the ARRL is really concerned that the Ham Radio hobby is going downhill and that means less sales of product and magazines and they decided that n/c would give the hobby a shot in the arm. They were wrong but it is too late to double back. This hobby is indeed rounding the last turn and the finish line is within sight. Deny this all you want but go to a hamfest and count the young hams. You won't need to even take off your shoes. I usually go to Dayton at least 3 out 5 years and this year the Hamvention attendance was under 20,000. It used to take more than a day to go through the flea market, it was less than 60% full this year and I'll bet that it is even smaller next year. Another indicator of the state of this hobby is the infamous QST magazine. There are issues that contain nothing interesting to hams that have been in the hobby for any length of time. If you scan the Sept issue you can learn how to make a straight key from a door hinge, how to make a UPS that you can buy ready made for under $75 that works better, revisit a extended double zepp that has been in the ARRL Handbook for the last 20 years, a product review of a radio that nobody buys, and a frequency counter. Then comes the final insult; the biggest advertiser in the magazine offers junk for sale, a lot of which are direct copies of other manufacturers' product that are higher priced at least partly because they don't employ prison inmate labor. All this verbiage are my opinions on the state of hobby. Yours may be different, probably are. Have a good day, see on the bands for as long as we have them. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic I see this topic come up so many times during the course of a year so I guess that I should turn in my Extra-light license because I'm not as smart or as worthy as those who think they are better than others because they possess the real license earned back in the good-old days. I'm convinced that they are the same people who walked to school 20 miles each way uphill in the snow while carrying their little sister. I, on the other hand, had to ride a bus about 10 miles...a piece of cake and I didn't learn fortitude. (Plus my little sister sat beside me) I've decided to demand that the FCC require me to learn 50wpm code and have a doctorate in Electrical Engineering instead of just an A.A. in Electronic Technology from my Community College. Of course while I'm at it I will demand that they require ALL Advanced and old-time Extras to learn and prove proficiency on each and every mode of transmission including voice whether they have a desire to use those modes or not.. They will have to speak proper English and use proper punctuation in William Shakespeare style while using voice mode. No hillbilly talk like I hear now on the radio. No African-American, French, German, Italian, or other dialects or accents. They must also demonstrate AM, FM, SSB, LSB,USB, DSB, digital, RTTY, spread spectrum and on and on and on. Since they are so smart they will also have to build every piece of equipment that they use including RTTY printers, and make their own batteries with material mined by them too. After all if they buy a battery then they are lazy. Also, since communication had it's roots in early cultures they must show proficiency on smoke signals and beating logs with sticks. I'm 55 years old and have had to readjust my career to changing times. I worked for 3 companies in 28 years and now 10 companies in the last 4 years within the IT field. It is a different world with much younger people in charge. START ADJUSTING! There is plenty for everyone to enjoy in this hobby and I'm humbled by the learned ones who share their knowledge without desire of receiving platitudes but BORED by those fixated on the code issue especially. 73, Tom K3TVC/nc I signed with the /nc because it matters so much to you real Hams to know that you are better. Oh God, I'm not worthy. hi hi - Original Message - From: Bob Maser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic
Some where around here I have a mid 1970s license manual. The last time I looked at it, the Advance question pool was about 75 questions and the extra had 90. As a former technical person, I liked the old tests because they did not ask me how long a VE or VEC had to forward paperwork to the FCC. They did not ask something about Earth Stations. But I had to know how to read a meter, calculate parallel/series resistance, what antennas do what. The same information is in the pools today, just in a different format. What they did do is cover the basics in the General, apply further technical language in the Advanced and even further in the Extra. In all of them were rules and regulations to assure the applicant knew where they could operate and with what mode. Prior to the 1980s code was the preferred method of emergency communications because of reliability. Today that is fluid. There are much faster ways to communicating written messages and instructions now in use. With it came the less emphasis on code. Now I consider anyone who holds the Extra as my equal. The fine points of working on gear, understanding intercept points, adjacent channel interference. over modulation/key clicks is not for everyone. The reason - most of our time on the air is fellowship, comradeship and just having a good time. It is when any of the various governmental agencies need communication that we really are needed. Learn the workings of what ever mode you like and become an expert, but most of all be ready to help and cooperate in times of emergencies. That is our primary justification of having frequencies. One other point, the number of licensees has increased over the years. Who cares if they are 15 or 50. Many people who near retirement are discovering the enjoyment of radio and what you are allowed to accomplish. Eventually those youngsters will discover the magic or Ham Radio. 73 Jim W5JO Tom, your discourse on the no code licensing was great. I have never looked down at a n/c Extra as being inferior, except in jest, but I can remember having one hell of a time getting my code speed up past 20wpm at the same time I had the theory down pat. They never seemed in sync. I never had to earn my living in the electronics business so the theory was often Greek to me, still is. But understand that a lot of Extras that did have to pass the 20 wpm requirement feel that the FCC or ARRL sold them down the river by eliminating it. Lets face it, the ARRL is really concerned that the Ham Radio hobby is going downhill and that means less sales of product and magazines and they decided that n/c would give the hobby a shot in the arm. They were wrong but it is too late to double back. This hobby is indeed rounding the last turn and the finish line is within sight. Deny this all you want but go to a hamfest and count the young hams. You won't need to even take off your shoes. I usually go to Dayton at least 3 out 5 years and this year the Hamvention attendance was under 20,000. It used to take more than a day to go through the flea market, it was less than 60% full this year and I'll bet that it is even smaller next year. Another indicator of the state of this hobby is the infamous QST magazine. There are issues that contain nothing interesting to hams that have been in the hobby for any length of time. If you scan the Sept issue you can learn how to make a straight key from a door hinge, how to make a UPS that you can buy ready made for under $75 that works better, revisit a extended double zepp that has been in the ARRL Handbook for the last 20 years, a product review of a radio that nobody buys, and a frequency counter. Then comes the final insult; the biggest advertiser in the magazine offers junk for sale, a lot of which are direct copies of other manufacturers' product that are higher priced at least partly because they don't employ prison inmate labor. All this verbiage are my opinions on the state of hobby. Yours may be different, probably are. Have a good day, see on the bands for as long as we have them. Bob W6TR __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic
I only got my extra so I wouldnt have to remember the band edges, now they moved them. What tudu ?? DE K0NG PS, I dont care if anyone only tested to One WPM, as long as they get on the Air __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic
Bob, Your reply is appreciated. One of my pet peeves is that this topic seems to always be presented in a shoot the messenger mentality. I did not write the rules but have to live with them. If anyone has any angst about this topic it should be referred to the FCC and ARRL as you mentioned, not with those who happen to test under the rules of their time. See ya on the air! Tom K3TVC/nc - Original Message - From: Bob Maser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic Tom, your discourse on the no code licensing was great. I have never looked down at a n/c Extra as being inferior, except in jest, but I can remember having one hell of a time getting my code speed up past 20wpm at the same time I had the theory down pat. They never seemed in sync. I never had to earn my living in the electronics business so the theory was often Greek to me, still is. But understand that a lot of Extras that did have to pass the 20 wpm requirement feel that the FCC or ARRL sold them down the river by eliminating it. Lets face it, the ARRL is really concerned that the Ham Radio hobby is going downhill and that means less sales of product and magazines and they decided that n/c would give the hobby a shot in the arm. They were wrong but it is too late to double back. This hobby is indeed rounding the last turn and the finish line is within sight. Deny this all you want but go to a hamfest and count the young hams. You won't need to even take off your shoes. I usually go to Dayton at least 3 out 5 years and this year the Hamvention attendance was under 20,000. It used to take more than a day to go through the flea market, it was less than 60% full this year and I'll bet that it is even smaller next year. Another indicator of the state of this hobby is the infamous QST magazine. There are issues that contain nothing interesting to hams that have been in the hobby for any length of time. If you scan the Sept issue you can learn how to make a straight key from a door hinge, how to make a UPS that you can buy ready made for under $75 that works better, revisit a extended double zepp that has been in the ARRL Handbook for the last 20 years, a product review of a radio that nobody buys, and a frequency counter. Then comes the final insult; the biggest advertiser in the magazine offers junk for sale, a lot of which are direct copies of other manufacturers' product that are higher priced at least partly because they don't employ prison inmate labor. All this verbiage are my opinions on the state of hobby. Yours may be different, probably are. Have a good day, see on the bands for as long as we have them. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic I see this topic come up so many times during the course of a year so I guess that I should turn in my Extra-light license because I'm not as smart or as worthy as those who think they are better than others because they possess the real license earned back in the good-old days. I'm convinced that they are the same people who walked to school 20 miles each way uphill in the snow while carrying their little sister. I, on the other hand, had to ride a bus about 10 miles...a piece of cake and I didn't learn fortitude. (Plus my little sister sat beside me) I've decided to demand that the FCC require me to learn 50wpm code and have a doctorate in Electrical Engineering instead of just an A.A. in Electronic Technology from my Community College. Of course while I'm at it I will demand that they require ALL Advanced and old-time Extras to learn and prove proficiency on each and every mode of transmission including voice whether they have a desire to use those modes or not.. They will have to speak proper English and use proper punctuation in William Shakespeare style while using voice mode. No hillbilly talk like I hear now on the radio. No African-American, French, German, Italian, or other dialects or accents. They must also demonstrate AM, FM, SSB, LSB,USB, DSB, digital, RTTY, spread spectrum and on and on and on. Since they are so smart they will also have to build every piece of equipment that they use including RTTY printers, and make their own batteries with material mined by them too. After all if they buy a battery then they are lazy. Also, since communication had it's roots in early cultures they must show proficiency on smoke signals and beating logs with sticks. I'm 55 years old and have had to readjust my career to changing times. I worked for 3 companies in 28 years and now 10 companies in the last 4 years within the IT field.
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Sorry Clay - I cannot grant your wish. DX stations all ove rthe world buy crystals from me. Besides I only have ONE crystal on 3790 kHz. Perhaps sanctions would work? (grin!) Brian, As an active AMer and 75M DXer, I request that you please not offer crystals within 10 KHz of the 75M DX window which is from 3789 to 3800. Its a very small window and many of the signals there are very weak. We know how much we hate it when SSB QSOs start up on top of our QSOs. Let's not do the same to the one portion of 75M where most of the operators are gentlemen who will actually stand by so someone else can work a new country. 73, Clay W7CE - Original Message - From: Brian Carling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion From: Donald Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once the expansion goes into effect, we should immediately commence AM activity on the new frequencies, including the 3600-3700 kc/s Extra segment. For those who would like them, I can offer FT243 crystals on the following lower frequencies: 3615, 3645, 3655, 3686, 3700 kHz 3702, 3703, 3705, 3721, 3790 kHz 3800, 3805, 3810, 3816.8, 3820 kHz 3825, 3830, 3837, 3840 kHz Brian, AF4K __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Actually no, AM has been used in the region of 3837 kHz for some time, and down around 7160 kHz too - hardly the to of the band. Why do you think it is wrong? Considering the fact that you are outnumbered by 500 to 1 at any given time, I would think it wise to stay up at the top of each band and not go sit in an area where DX is typically found, which is usually at the bottom of each band. Also, since a strong SSB signal can wreak havoc with an AM signal, you're not going to win the battle for the frequency. I operate SSB and AM and I have seen the results of head to head confrontations. Back in the 50's and 60's when SSB was just emerging, they were allocated by gentlemen's agreement to the top of each band because they were the minority. Now AM is the minority so it makes sense for AM'ers to inhabit the top frequencies. Why fight a fight that you can't win? Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Don't make the same mistake they did 25 to 30 years ago by defining an AM pen area. AM is phone; use it wherever your license class allows. Or, maybe all can wait for the ARRL Band Plan. Pete, wa2cwa On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:50:11 -0400 Bob Maser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Going down to the new Extra class freqs is a sure way to fire up the SSB boys. I would suggest widening out your 3880 to plus or minus 20kcs. Bob W6TR - Original Message - __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
From: Todd, KA1KAQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 500-1? I think you need to get on a bit more often, Bob. AM has made a huge comeback over the last decade, and the 'gentleman's agreement' you mention seems only to be respected by the AMers. Just check 3870 - 3890 any night, you'll hear them trying to make problems. The reason there haven't been AM issues in other areas in only because the AM group tends to stay up above, certainly not because of any agreement. Exactly Tom - he must not be hearing what I'm hearing. Some days it sounds like there are 500 AM stations in the state of GEORGIA alone! __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
From: Bob Maser [EMAIL PROTECTED] If AM is getting so popular, why aren't there any manufacturers producing any equipment? Look at the function switch on most modern HF transceivers, Bob. There is usually a position marked AM. __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
I can see this is going to be a conversation like a lot you can hear on 75m SSB! NOt very deep - mostly more like: DID DIDN'T! DID TOO! Bob Maser in Tampa writes: Yeah, right. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Icom, Kenwud, Yeasu least). If AM is getting so popular, why aren't there any manufacturers producing any equipment? Bob W6TR __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Date sent: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:30:27 -0400 From: Bob Maser [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is a question that does not deserve an answer. But... you did! __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] AM T SHIRTS
Hi Guys , I had some AM T Shirts made for the group here in Texas and still have some left over. The LOGO USED was the old TUNGSOL TUBE LGO with on the bottom AM GLOWS IN THE DARK. A Copy of the logo is on my website under the W1PE FORUM and go to the AM Page. They are a Dark Blue Shirt, No pocket. They come in L---XL---XXL and a couple of XXXL. Price is $11.00 for the L and XL $13.00 for the XXl and $14 for the XXXL. Postage is $4.50 via Priority Mail. Send checks to my QRZ adr... MO not required. My Web site adr is www.w1pe.com Thanks for reading guys... Bob W!pe __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
No problem Brian. In fact I need to order another crystal from you. My purpose was to make sure members of the group are aware of the long-established DX window from 3789 to 3800. It is officially 3790 to 3800, but has drifted down an extra kHz in the past few years (those DXers are are real bandwidth hogs -- a whopping 11 kHz for all of them). For those interested, the window exists because for many years countries like Australia had limited phone capability in the U.S. phone band. In Australia's case, I believe it was only from 3795 to 3800. With the expansion of the U.S. phone band, that may eventually start changing. However, since a lot of DX on 80M is right at the noise level, it is nice to have a small window that is relatively free of rag-chewing and other non-DX related activity. Also, as we all know, the amount of force required to move a group of hams is very large. I have heard talk of attempting NA to Eu AM QSOs in the window. I don't have any problem with this. DX is DX, no matter what mode is used. I believe N7UA, with his 80M, 6 element wire yagi, is planning on trying AM with some Eu stations later this winter. I hope to either have my Johnson Kilowatt fixed or my 20V-2 conversion completed by then so that I can join in. 73, Clay W7CE - Original Message - From: Brian Carling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Sorry Clay - I cannot grant your wish. DX stations all ove rthe world buy crystals from me. Besides I only have ONE crystal on 3790 kHz. Perhaps sanctions would work? (grin!) Brian, As an active AMer and 75M DXer, I request that you please not offer crystals within 10 KHz of the 75M DX window which is from 3789 to 3800. Its a very small window and many of the signals there are very weak. We know how much we hate it when SSB QSOs start up on top of our QSOs. Let's not do the same to the one portion of 75M where most of the operators are gentlemen who will actually stand by so someone else can work a new country. 73, Clay W7CE - Original Message - From: Brian Carling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion From: Donald Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once the expansion goes into effect, we should immediately commence AM activity on the new frequencies, including the 3600-3700 kc/s Extra segment. For those who would like them, I can offer FT243 crystals on the following lower frequencies: 3615, 3645, 3655, 3686, 3700 kHz 3702, 3703, 3705, 3721, 3790 kHz 3800, 3805, 3810, 3816.8, 3820 kHz 3825, 3830, 3837, 3840 kHz Brian, AF4K __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic
All this verbiage are my opinions on the state of hobby. Yours may be different, probably are. Have a good day, see on the bands for as long as we have them. Bob W6TR SNIP Well Bob: You said a mouth full and you are correct. I am one of those 20wpm extra's and was a general when all the bands were taken away from me in the late 60's. I guess i have kept that grudge for may years. but i do get on just about every day. Very little SSB any more too much crap and foul mouths and neo-nazis. Use to get on RTTY and still do but AM and CW are my loves now. Yes theARRL did not get the great shot in the arm they wanted Oh it happened for a while when all those who would not put the hard work and time into getting their ticket . we able to get it the New EZ way. but they got bored So the ARRL in their wisdom sic pushed to lower the test again. got a few more to come in who just wanted to guess at the test from the test QA that was passed out. they too dropped out bored. Why ? I really think they if you are given something for nothing you do not value it much. I value my ticket as one of the highest peices of paper i have ! I worked hard for it and I use it every day. again just another old Farts thoughts on the matter. ZUT 73 Tony - Anthony W. DePrato WA4JQS QCWA # 23602 10X # 3621 A1-OP FISTS # 10573 VBA # 55 AMI # 1274 NCDXF # 1036 RNARS # 1309 SKCC # 1227 DXCC PHONE DXCC RTTY DXCC CW Lis. 1962 Calls Held VP8BZL VP8SSI 3Y0PI V31SS ZD8JQS WA4JQS/ZS1 WA4JQS/4K1 WA4JQS/KC4 __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] TS430 as VFO
Is there any reason why one could/should not use a rice box as a vfo on a simple rig like the Knight T60 or any other for that matter. Assuming we get the output down to an appropriate level, it would seem like a neat way doing things. js -- PHOTO OF THE WEEK: http://schmidling.com/pow.htm Astronomy, Beer, Cheese, Fiber,Gems, Sausage,Silver http://schmidling.com __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
no its not - Original Message - From: Brian Carling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:32 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net I can see this is going to be a conversation like a lot you can hear on 75m SSB! NOt very deep - mostly more like: DID DIDN'T! DID TOO! Bob Maser in Tampa writes: Yeah, right. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Icom, Kenwud, Yeasu least). If AM is getting so popular, why aren't there any manufacturers producing any equipment? Bob W6TR __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] TS430 as VFO
Hello Jack: My TS-430 works OK as a VFO. You should make a 5 to 10 Watt attenuator to insure that the output is terminated correctly. A better way is to use the Transverter jack (socket) on the back of the 430. The output level is only 50 mW and is 50 Ohms. The transverter output may not drive your transmitter without using say a 1:9 autotransformer or L network between the transverter out and the Tx input. Older tube rigs have Hi Z crystal input around 47 K or so and you need to match that somehow. At least with the attenuator method you will have no trouble getting the required 5-7 V RMS for the transmitter input. Good luck and be sure you are in CW mode (no Mics!!) 73, Charlie, K0NG __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
RE: [AMRadio] TS430 as VFO
You can also use one on a broadcast transmitter Brad KB7FQR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Schmidling Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:43 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: [AMRadio] TS430 as VFO Is there any reason why one could/should not use a rice box as a vfo on a simple rig like the Knight T60 or any other for that matter. Assuming we get the output down to an appropriate level, it would seem like a neat way doing things. __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] An Idea for 15 Meters
Those of us who depend on the upper hf bands for much of our AM operation due to limited power or antennas are eagerly awaiting better conditions on 15 and 10 meters. Since 15 meters will become more useable first, and since the General allocation on that band will soon increase by 25 khz, let's begin thinking of how we, the amateurs who regularly operate and enjoy AM, can tell the League, and every other amateur how we intend to define space for us in the voice portion of this band. Toward that end, here are my two cents. When it comes to 15 meters, I've found the most common operating frequency appears to be 21.425. So, why not use 21.425 as a rallying point, and then move upward in 5 KHZ steps through 21.445 as conditions improve and activity increases. Of course, we can move downward too, but as we approach 21.400 and below, we may run into whatever is left of the long-established missionary and mobile nets. With a good amateur AM signal on 21.445, and a strong bc signal on 21.455, an SSB operator would have a tough time hugging the top edge of the band. As I said, this is only my two cents on the issue. Feel free to take it, leave it, or kick it around on the list for awhile. If nothing else comes of the idea, maybe it will at least give the 75 meter boat anchor guys a short break in the list traffic. 73, Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] WA3VJB KA1KAQ audio
Some more recordings made from N. Central AR by me/w5ami. Paul, I just missed working you. Good to work you again Todd. We had a big group with a station in WY checking in as well. Paul/VJB: http://w5ami.net/ham_audio/WA3VJB_3.885MHz_10-14-2006_9_34_56_PM.mp3 Todd/KAQ: http://w5ami.net/ham_audio/KA1KAQ_3.885MHz_10-14-2006_9_51_05_PM.mp3 -- There is nothing more uncommon than common sense. -- Frank Lloyd Wright __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] TS430 as VFO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A better way is to use the Transverter jack (socket) on the back of the 430. Guess I had better get out the manual. Have no clue what a transverter is. Good luck and be sure you are in CW mode (no Mics!!) How bout AM with the audio turned all the way down? CW requires a key closure. I am getting brain cramps trying to sort out the antenna switching. Somehow the output has to go to the VFO input and the ant has to got to the RF connector or the transmitter out put. Maybe the transverter output solves this problem? I am picking up a Knight T60 on Monday and I don't have any xtals and I thought this might be an easy way around. js -- PHOTO OF THE WEEK: http://schmidling.com/pow.htm Astronomy, Beer, Cheese, Fiber,Gems, Sausage,Silver http://schmidling.com __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] WA3VJB KA1KAQ audio
Tough conditions tonight, Brian. Sounds at least as bad on your end, but surprisingly I was hearing you much better up here. Even Paul was down over last night. Looking forward to quieter times and some good, long haul AM. Working Tim in WY. was no small feat, weak signal AM work to be sure. 73 and thanks for the recordings. That Flex radio sounds really, really nice. ~ Todd KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
W7CE wrote: No problem Brian. In fact I need to order another crystal from you. My purpose was to make sure members of the group are aware of the long-established DX window from 3789 to 3800. It is officially 3790 to 3800, but has drifted down an extra kHz in the past few years (those DXers are are real bandwidth hogs -- a whopping 11 kHz for all of them). Actually 3775-3800 according to IARU band plan, however I guess nobody in the US would care. For those interested, the window exists because for many years countries like Australia had limited phone capability in the U.S. phone band. In Australia's case, I believe it was only from 3795 to 3800. With the expansion of the U.S. phone band, that may eventually start changing. However, since a lot of DX on 80M is right at the noise level, it is nice to have a small window that is relatively free of rag-chewing and other non-DX related activity. Also, as we all know, the amount of force required to move a group of hams is very large. I have heard talk of attempting NA to Eu AM QSOs in the window. I don't have any problem with this. DX is DX, no matter what mode is used. I believe N7UA, with his 80M, 6 element wire yagi, is planning on trying AM with some Eu stations later this winter. I hope to either have my Johnson Kilowatt fixed or my 20V-2 conversion completed by then so that I can join in. 73, Clay W7CE By the way, I frequently during the winter hear lots of US AM traffic around 3850-3900, some stations are S-9+ and it wouldn´t be a problem to work them if I just could transmitt up there. In any case I´ll be looking forward to work some of you on 80m AM, might be easier now when everything will be changed around. 73 Jim SM2EKM __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
On 10/13/06, Bob Maser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus, if he had half a brain, he would have upgraded to an Extra back in the late 60's, early 70's. It's sour grapes. How do you figure that, Bob? Someone prefers not to upgrade to a higher license to get a few (until recently) more kcs of spectrum because they feel the test is a give-away? Would the benefit of upgrading be the opportunity to have an Extra Class-only SSB contact with you? I agree that a pre no-code Extra is more valuable than post no code but he missed the boat. My feeling is that my 20WPM Extra will always be worth more(to me at least) than a no code Extra. Sounds like you're the one suffering from sour grapes syndrome. How DARE they offer the Extra Class license to those 'lesser' licensees with an easier test?? I've always felt that no code extras should sign /nc when in the Extra part of the bands. That's okay, I've always thought that all hams should append their callsign with the call area they actually reside in, be it a Vanity call they bought or otherwise. Not so long ago, it was the law. And it actually makes sense, more sense than having someone sign /NC so that you can feel somehow superior. Think about it Bob - you wouldn't even need to have the half a brain you suggest the other fellow lacks, to get a 4-area callsign. You could just sign W6TR/4 so folks would have a better idea where that superior signal was coming from. (o: Out. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
