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I prefer to have the default setting be to reply to the mailing list. I can usually handle manually changing it as needed. Steve WD8DAS
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Brian Sherrod wrote: Before I actually hit the send key for "Reply All", I delete all unwanted recipients. Works fine so long as we remember to delete all "unwanted recipients" so they don't get duplicates. Which is why I think that the list should be reverted to it's previous state. If you then 'reply all', it only goes to the list -and- the message originator. Cross-posting was a bad thing to do before, and (as far as I'm concerned) it still is. -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR
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Before I actually hit the send key for "Reply All", I delete all unwanted recipients. Works fine so long as we remember to delete all "unwanted recipients" so they don't get duplicates.
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I use Outlook Express. It provides two buttons, "Reply" and "Reply All". When I hit the "Reply" button, I prefer it to go only to the person who originated the post. When I hit "Reply All", it should go to the list. Given that I have two buttons, this assignment of functions appears the most logical to me. Incidentally, "Reply All" actually will send it to the originator plus everyone else the originator included in the "To" line for his post including this list. Before I actually hit the send key for "Reply All", I delete all unwanted recipients. Lyman, K7LH
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On 6/12/06, Donald Chester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I vote for letting the "reply" button send to the originator of the message only. Set the "reply all" button to send to the list. This is my vote also, and is no doubt the reason there are *TWO* options. Otherwise there would just be 'reply' and it would default to the list. As others have mentioned, this is one of the best, if not the best list I am on as far as responsible, knowledgeable, mature users. I trust those users to be astute enough to decide whether their reply should go to the list or the individual and act accordingly. Forcing them to do so is what results in so many unneeded replies to the list, for sale items being an excellent example. I do realize that lists like this are not necessarily run as a democracy, but are more of a friendly dictatorship with list admins making the final decisions. I'm a big fan of personal freedom as well as accountability, so thanks to you Brian, for giving us a chance to cast our vote. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ
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Dino Darling wrote: Since I have the mic, you should post your replies to the TOP of your reply. I've already read the other messages and don't need to scroll through 100 lines in order to read your, "I agree" post! Also, learn how to edit your posts and edit the subject line if you intend to hijack a thread! Here's where I disagree. A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR
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Brian Carling wrote: What a pity Bill Gates and his software gnomes didn't include these BASIC functions for any internet literate society! that statement has nothing to do with where we are in our discussion on the AMReflector. In fact, when I hit -reply- to "this" message, it was headed straight to the sender (Brian). How hard could it be to change that to the list, instead (as I just did)? I like the analogy of being alble to operate, tune, repair and restore rigs, yet can't expend the time to control how their message is sent. Reply to the LIST! - Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR
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I click on 'Reply To All", and then I delete every address but "Discussion of AM Radio", and then I delete the original message text, and then I compose. I will try harder to remember to delete the original text, because I have forgotten a few times recently. Bacon, WA3WDR
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This is one of the best run lists on the reflector, to which I add my thanks. 73 Jim W5JO To All- Brian- Thank you for allowing a poll and vote on this issue. Bob K5SEP
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To All- My vote is to reply to the list. Brian- Thank you for allowing a poll and vote on this issue. Bob K5SEP __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[AMRadio] How the reply button works
Yes, but the moderator here told sellers they had to put a warning in capital letters at the top of their posts telling anyone who replies to be suire not to reply to the whole list, otherwise the moderatoir said that he was going to banish the SELLER--who clearly WANTS all his messages to be seen by the whole list and really has nothing to do with this problem. 73, Don Merz, N3RHT I did not say that Don. I clearly separated and distinguished what guidelines I expected for the SELLER and for the BUYER. If you placed the "email directly to me" at the top of your for sale list as I suggested, and someone decided to ignore that, it's not your fault, and I certainly would realize that. If we are going to use this list as a buy/sell thing, even just a little, I want some common sense guidelines for how "business" should be conducted between the seller and the buyer. I don't get why this is such a terrible rule! I am also thinking of the archives. I know a lot of folks simply use the delete button if they don't care about reading a certain post, but the archives do not distinguish what it keeps, and it continues to get bigger and bigger. Another list I belong to has come up with a way to make a searchable archive from Pipermail, and I'm very interested to watch how this works for a while and possibly get this installed for us. The cleaner our archives, the better the search algorithm will work. Our archives contain a wealth of technical information from the last 4 or 5 years but currently Pipermail does not have a search feature.
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Dino said... Keep the replies to the LIST! If someone has a problem with sending replies to the "for sale" messages, put them on MODERATED status. If __ Yes, but the moderator here told sellers they had to put a warning in capital letters at the top of their posts telling anyone who replies to be suire not to reply to the whole list, otherwise the moderatoir said that he was going to banish the SELLER--who clearly WANTS all his messages to be seen by the whole list and really has nothing to do with this problem. 73, Don Merz, N3RHT The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator.(17b)
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Because it was decided to temporarily switch the list "reply to sender", I used my e-mail program to "reply all" in order for this to get to the AMRADIO list. This temporary change was actually a mistake as this reply not only goes to the list, but to 4 others also. It is also clear that a few on here still don't understand how group lists and e-mails work. First of all, this is a DISCUSSION list. Someone posts a question or comment, everyone reads it (if they want to; I know I don't read them all), and then the replies to the original post is sent out to everyone interested in the discussion...as it should be. Every once in a while (unless you are Brian Carling) someone will post a for sale message to the group. If you are interested, take the extra second to send a private reply. If this is a difficult concept to understand, then don't respond to "for sale" messages or send an e-mail to... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know how to properly load up a BA, you should be able to reply to a simple e-mail! Keep the replies to the LIST! If someone has a problem with sending replies to the "for sale" messages, put them on MODERATED status. If you need help moderating the group, set up a few moderators! Albeit, this QTH.NET list is not a robust as a YahooGroup list when it comes to moderators. I own a few lists, including a few on QTH.NET. Its not difficult to moderate these lists. Since I have the mic, you should post your replies to the TOP of your reply. I've already read the other messages and don't need to scroll through 100 lines in order to read your, "I agree" post! Also, learn how to edit your posts and edit the subject line if you intend to hijack a thread! Now, if this was a BROADCAST or NEWS list, then that would be a different matter and replies should hit the bit bucket instead of the list or sender. Again, this is a DISCUSSION list. It wasn't broken and it's too bad it got changed...if only for a short time. With all that being said, a HUGE Thank You to the list owner for this list! I KNOW what it takes to manage a list! I appreciate this list and got my DX-100 due to a "for sale" message on here! Brian, I don't have a problem with the amount of FOR SALE items you post on here and other places, but you have to admit, it has all the signs of a side business! :-) Dino - K6RIX [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 06/09/2006
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From: "Brian Sherrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Everyone, please send your vote to list so we can all feel confident in the final decision. I vote for letting the "reply" button send to the originator of the message only. Set the "reply all" button to send to the list. Don k4kyv
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From: "W1EOF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This seems to come up on every list I belong to. It's not so much a bug but a choice. It also is NOT turning a reply into a reply-to-all. When you click the reply button it can only go one of two ways. To the list (the source of the email to you), or to the poster of the message to the list. It can only go one way or the other. I would contends that it is in the most favorable position. I'd guess that most of the time when someone replies, they want to reply to the list and not to the individual that posted the message. I seem to recall that most lists, when you hit "Reply," the message goes to the sender of the message only. When you hit "Reply All" it goes to the sender AND to the list, so the sender gets two duplicate messages. To avoid that, you have to delete the sender, so that it just goes to the list. If there are other addressees on the original message, the "Reply all" message goes to each of them as well. I have inadvertently sent what was intended to be a private response to the entire list more than once. It can be embarrassing. It could conceivably bring on legal liability as well. Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. Try it - you'll like it. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/
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I concur with Gary. Reply goes to person only. I try to ensure that I put the e-mail address of the poster in my reply line.I think this is the only list I am on that puts the list name in the reply column. Joe W4AAB - Original Message - From: "Brian Carling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Brian Sherrod'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Discussion of AM Radio'" Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 9:20 PM Subject: RE: [AMRadio] How the reply button works > REPLY TO ALL is a bad idea. > > Please have it EITHER reply to the LIST OR to the individual, > but please not to ALL. That just makes the recipient list and > the duplicates sent grow and grow, and we all have to do > multiple deletes. > > > Every other list that I subscribe to operates the way you now have it set. > > That is how I would prefer it to be. > > > > Reply: goes only to the sender. > > Reply to all: goes to the list. > > > > When you set it the other way the only way to reply to an individual is to > > cut and past his address. > > > > Everyone should be encouraged to reply to the list with any info that may be > > of interest to most. > > > > 73 > > Gary K4FMX > > > > > > > Everyone, please send your vote to list so we can all feel confident > > > in the final decision. I say we close the poll by next Sunday, 18 > > > > > > __ > > AMRadio mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > > AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net > > AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb > > > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net > AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb >
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> I know that Outlook and Outlook Express > allow reply and reply all. > > Tom K3TVC Huge limitation too. Outlook does not give the option to reply to OTHER choices. "Reply ALL" is a bad choice. With BETTER e-mail programs like Eudora and Pegasus (FREE.) you can easily choose to send to the following in ANY combination: The TO: address The FROM: addres The SENDER: address The REPLY TO: address The LIST: address The CC: address What a pity Bill Gates and his software gnomes didn't include these BASIC functions for any internet literate society!
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REPLY TO ALL is a bad idea. Please have it EITHER reply to the LIST OR to the individual, but please not to ALL. That just makes the recipient list and the duplicates sent grow and grow, and we all have to do multiple deletes. > Every other list that I subscribe to operates the way you now have it set. > That is how I would prefer it to be. > > Reply: goes only to the sender. > Reply to all: goes to the list. > > When you set it the other way the only way to reply to an individual is to > cut and past his address. > > Everyone should be encouraged to reply to the list with any info that may be > of interest to most. > > 73 > Gary K4FMX > > > > Everyone, please send your vote to list so we can all feel confident > > in the final decision. I say we close the poll by next Sunday, 18 > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net > AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb >
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Brian Sherrod wrote: I would ask the list members to voice their opinion on this option and lets set it once and for all, one way or the other. I find it much more convenient to have it address the list when I hit reply myself. As Mark mentioned, this is NOT a bug, but a choice. That's my choice, too. (for what it's worth). -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR
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Every other list that I subscribe to operates the way you now have it set. That is how I would prefer it to be. Reply: goes only to the sender. Reply to all: goes to the list. When you set it the other way the only way to reply to an individual is to cut and past his address. Everyone should be encouraged to reply to the list with any info that may be of interest to most. 73 Gary K4FMX > Everyone, please send your vote to list so we can all feel confident > in the final decision. I say we close the poll by next Sunday, 18
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To the list. Harry, KT4AE Maryville, Tennessee
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My vote is for: To the List! Barry, KF5GC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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All I can say is the guy must have drank too much md20-20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 8:52 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: Re: [AMRadio] How the reply button works The way it is now setup makes sense to me but KC8OPP says he now has to cut and paste in Yahoo to go to everyone. Maybe this is the "Bug"...possibly different email interfaces give only the reply option so if they mainly reply to everyone as opposed to an individual then I can see why the previous setup made sense to them. I know that Outlook and Outlook Express allow reply and reply all. Tom K3TVC __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
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The way it is now setup makes sense to me but KC8OPP says he now has to cut and paste in Yahoo to go to everyone. Maybe this is the "Bug"...possibly different email interfaces give only the reply option so if they mainly reply to everyone as opposed to an individual then I can see why the previous setup made sense to them. I know that Outlook and Outlook Express allow reply and reply all. Tom K3TVC
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Very good John, and thanks a lot for helping on this, as I'm snowed right now, and would probably screw up the results ;) 73, Brian / w5ami -- "There is nothing more uncommon than common sense." -- Frank Lloyd Wright
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In a message dated 6/11/06 4:09:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Everyone, please send your vote to list so we can all feel confident > in the final decision. > OK, apparently I cast the first vote (stone?). Again, I prefer TO THE PERSON. If I believe my response is of interest to the net (or anyone else's business) I'll distribute it accordingly. Not really a big deal to me either way, though. Most reflectors seem to go "to the list" as someone else noted. Dennis D. W7QHO Glendale, CA
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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Brian Sherrod wrote: Can someone help me keep tally on who wants what? Please let me know @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having shot off my mouth, I will thus step up to this plate (and dip it nicely). Should Brian approve my volunteerism: Send "Reply-To" preferences to me, privately if you wish, at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or to the List. I will collate them and report the results to Brian. For Da Record: My own vote is for "Reply To List" Cheers John KB6SCO
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Can someone help me keep tally on who wants what? Please let me know @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everyone, please send your vote to list so we can all feel confident in the final decision. I say we close the poll by next Sunday, 18 June. I can switch it back real quick or leave it like it is now. It's up to y'all. At that point, we will let this subject die once and for all and keep it off the list, as I know it's not related to AM, but hey, we have got to make this list work the way the majority wants it and the only way to do that is discuss it for a short while. On 6/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message dated 6/11/06 1:50:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would ask the list members to voice their opinion on this option and lets set it once and for all, one way or the other. I find it much more convenient to have it address the list when I hit reply myself. My vote is "to the person." Dennis D. W7QHO Glendale, CA -- "There is nothing more uncommon than common sense." -- Frank Lloyd Wright
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Brian, and others, I just hit reply and Yahoo came up only with Brians addy, so I had to find the list address. I prefer to see lots of the answers. Many times someone will ask a question that I find interesting, only to have all the answers go directly to the person asking and there I am wondering what the answer is/was. Personally I don't have much of a problem with a reply all, Yahoo gave me a box to check and the un-wanted messages just go away. Just my opinion. 73's Roger KC8OPP --- Brian Sherrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would ask the list members to voice their opinion > on this option and > lets set it once and for all, one way or the other. > I find it much > more convenient to have it address the list when I > hit reply myself. > > As Mark mentioned, this is NOT a bug, but a choice. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Brian, My vote is to have it reply to the "LIST". I've messed up in the past and replied to the list when I meant to send it to the individual, but 99% of all my posts and I would bet most people's post are intended for the entire list. Besides, when it's set to reply to the individual it makes it difficult and messy when you want everyone to see the post by being forced to "REPLY TO ALL" as I have had to do this time. 73, Rick/K5IZ
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Exactly Mark. About three or four years ago we went through this discussion and it was the consensus that the reply-to button addressed the list. For the time being, I have retset the "reply-to" button to go directly to the poster since, so far, based on recnt replies this is way others would prefer it. I would ask the list members to voice their opinion on this option and lets set it once and for all, one way or the other. I find it much more convenient to have it address the list when I hit reply myself. As Mark mentioned, this is NOT a bug, but a choice. On 6/11/06, W1EOF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don - This seems to come up on every list I belong to (> 35) every so often. It's not so much a bug but a choice. It also is NOT turning a reply into a reply-to-all. When you click the reply button it can only go one of two ways. To the list (the source of the email to you), or to the poster of the message to the list. It can only go one way or the other. I would contends that it is in the most favorable position. I'd guess that most of the time when someone replies, they want to reply to the list and not to the individual that posted the message. I just checked: All lists I belong to except one default to replying to the entire list when you hit the reply button. All the Yahoo lists. The LWCA.ORG list. The only one that does not, the one that's different is the GlowBugs list. 73, Mark W1EOF > -Original Message- > From: Merz Donald S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:19 PM > To: Discussion of AM Radio > Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Sellers and Buyers on this list...READ THIS > > > I will do this. But it must be recognized that this "feature" is > a bug. No other list anywhere on Earth operates by automatically > making every REPLY into a REPLY-TO-ALL. __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- "There is nothing more uncommon than common sense." -- Frank Lloyd Wright
[AMRadio] How the reply button works
Don - This seems to come up on every list I belong to (> 35) every so often. It's not so much a bug but a choice. It also is NOT turning a reply into a reply-to-all. When you click the reply button it can only go one of two ways. To the list (the source of the email to you), or to the poster of the message to the list. It can only go one way or the other. I would contends that it is in the most favorable position. I'd guess that most of the time when someone replies, they want to reply to the list and not to the individual that posted the message. I just checked: All lists I belong to except one default to replying to the entire list when you hit the reply button. All the Yahoo lists. The LWCA.ORG list. The only one that does not, the one that's different is the GlowBugs list. 73, Mark W1EOF > -Original Message- > From: Merz Donald S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:19 PM > To: Discussion of AM Radio > Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Sellers and Buyers on this list...READ THIS > > > I will do this. But it must be recognized that this "feature" is > a bug. No other list anywhere on Earth operates by automatically > making every REPLY into a REPLY-TO-ALL.
