[AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread AirRadio
I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling like mad, 
eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about dropping it in a can 
of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or waste of time? 
73 Max

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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, AirRadio airra...@dsl.pipex.com wrote:
 I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling like mad, 
 eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about dropping it in a 
 can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or waste of time?

Sounds like it abates once things settle in thermally.The simple
approach I'd try first Max is to check the tension on any securing
bolts through the transformer laminations or chassis. Sometimes that
takes care of it. Other methods include removing the transformer and
re-sealing the laminations it in hot varnish, or isolating the
transformer from the chassis on rubber bushings. The latter is not a
good idea IMO due to safety concerns with internal shorts which would
otherwise become apparent when the case is grounded to the chassis.

Gary WZ1M is a member of this list and has a transformer rebuilding
business, so he can certainly provide you with some pointers. I think
Don K4KYV and a few others have successfully dealt with similar
problems with success. It might be as simple as tossing he transformer
in the oven for a while on its own if tightening the bolts doesn't
cure it.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread Stevan A. White
As a broadcast engineer I have seen (or heard) transformers rattle as 
you've described.  My suggestion would be to let it be, especially if it 
stops after a while.  It sounds to me like it rattles when it's cold and 
stops after it warms up.  Does the noise gradually subside or just quit 
abruptly?  It is annoying to listen to the laminations rattle but it 
would be even more annoying to try to fix one problem and create 
another.  Some transformer windings are spaced apart and spacers may 
loosen some when they're cool and tighten up after they warm up.  I 
used to have one that did that and it really bothered me until I talked 
to the factory guy and he explained what was happening.  Even worse than 
transformer laminations rattling is hearing a bank of SCRs grunting and 
groaning.  (I'll bet some on this list even know which line of 
transmitters I'm talking about.)  Happy Holidays to all!

Steve White, W5SAW

Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, AirRadio airra...@dsl.pipex.com wrote:
   
 I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling like mad, 
 eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about dropping it in a 
 can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or waste of time?
 

 Sounds like it abates once things settle in thermally.The simple
 approach I'd try first Max is to check the tension on any securing
 bolts through the transformer laminations or chassis. Sometimes that
 takes care of it. Other methods include removing the transformer and
 re-sealing the laminations it in hot varnish, or isolating the
 transformer from the chassis on rubber bushings. The latter is not a
 good idea IMO due to safety concerns with internal shorts which would
 otherwise become apparent when the case is grounded to the chassis.

 Gary WZ1M is a member of this list and has a transformer rebuilding
 business, so he can certainly provide you with some pointers. I think
 Don K4KYV and a few others have successfully dealt with similar
 problems with success. It might be as simple as tossing he transformer
 in the oven for a while on its own if tightening the bolts doesn't
 cure it.

 ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread Jim Wilhite
You might remove one of the end bells and try inserting something 
between the bobbin and the laminations at the end.  Maybe that is a mite 
loose.

Jim/W5JO




 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, AirRadio airra...@dsl.pipex.com 
 wrote:
 I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling 
 like mad, eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about 
 dropping it in a can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or 
 waste of time?

 Sounds like it abates once things settle in thermally.The simple
 approach I'd try first Max is to check the tension on any securing
 bolts through the transformer laminations or chassis. Sometimes that
 takes care of it. Other methods include removing the transformer and
 re-sealing the laminations it in hot varnish, or isolating the
 transformer from the chassis on rubber bushings. The latter is not a
 good idea IMO due to safety concerns with internal shorts which would
 otherwise become apparent when the case is grounded to the chassis.

 Gary WZ1M is a member of this list and has a transformer rebuilding
 business, so he can certainly provide you with some pointers. I think
 Don K4KYV and a few others have successfully dealt with similar
 problems with success. It might be as simple as tossing he transformer
 in the oven for a while on its own if tightening the bolts doesn't
 cure it.

 ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread Stevan A. White
Forgot to mention, if you do set the transformer on rubber feet be sure 
to electrically ground the frame to the chassis to maintain the 
integrity of the safety ground just in case of a winding fault.

Stevan A. White wrote:
 As a broadcast engineer I have seen (or heard) transformers rattle as 
 you've described.  My suggestion would be to let it be, especially if it 
 stops after a while.  It sounds to me like it rattles when it's cold and 
 stops after it warms up.  Does the noise gradually subside or just quit 
 abruptly?  It is annoying to listen to the laminations rattle but it 
 would be even more annoying to try to fix one problem and create 
 another.  Some transformer windings are spaced apart and spacers may 
 loosen some when they're cool and tighten up after they warm up.  I 
 used to have one that did that and it really bothered me until I talked 
 to the factory guy and he explained what was happening.  Even worse than 
 transformer laminations rattling is hearing a bank of SCRs grunting and 
 groaning.  (I'll bet some on this list even know which line of 
 transmitters I'm talking about.)  Happy Holidays to all!

 Steve White, W5SAW
   
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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread rbethman
Max - Is this your BC-610E?

If it is, I believe they use open frame transformers.  They are also 
difficult to get to.

In that instance, I'd try to look at the wedges between the bobbin and 
the laminations.  Try to tighten them a hair.

Bob - N0DGN


 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, AirRadio airra...@dsl.pipex.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling 
 like mad, eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about 
 dropping it in a can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or 
 waste of time?
   

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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread AirRadio
Bob,
No this is in a Drake R-4c, that is why it is a tad irritating, if it was in 
the '610 it would probably not notice so much, also I have spares for all of 
them. I have removed it and am going to leave it in a pot of varnish 
overnight, better not put it in the oven the Turkey might taste a bit odd on 
the 25th ;-) it will either make no difference or will sort it, all the 
laminations look tight and it is already varnished maybe there is a small 
looseness somewhere however the bobbin looks tight enough. it is 30 years 
old though maybe something has moved over time.
73 Max M0GHQ/KJ4ISS

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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?


 Max - Is this your BC-610E?

 If it is, I believe they use open frame transformers.  They are also
 difficult to get to.

 In that instance, I'd try to look at the wedges between the bobbin and
 the laminations.  Try to tighten them a hair.

 Bob - N0DGN


 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, AirRadio airra...@dsl.pipex.com
 wrote:

 I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling
 like mad, eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about
 dropping it in a can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or
 waste of time?


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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread Mel Farrer
Hi, I used to rebuild motors and transformers and the older ones never seemed 
to keep the laminations tight or bonded.  We used to take older ones and put 
them in an oven for a couple of hours at 150 or so degrees.  Then put them 
submerged in a tank of thinned varnish for about 10 minutes.  Pull them out and 
wipe off the excess varnish and cool overnight.  Heating the core seems to 
invite the thinned varnish to penetrate deeper into the laminations.  This 
always kept the cores quiet.  Its a little messy, but works.  Good Luck.

Mel, 

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From: rbethman rbeth...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 9:23 AM

Max - Is this your BC-610E?

If it is, I believe they use open frame transformers.  They are also 
difficult to get to.

In that instance, I'd try to look at the wedges between the bobbin and 
the laminations.  Try to tighten them a hair.

Bob - N0DGN


 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, AirRadio airra...@dsl.pipex.com 
 wrote:
     
 I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling 
 like mad, eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about 
 dropping it in a can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or 
 waste of time?
       

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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread Gary
You say, latest boatanchor, which mite mean that the transformer is 
becoming saturated to much from an over load condition. This would cause a 
rattle. I have read the other posts and the preheat and a COUPLE of dips in 
varnish would more than likely, cure your problem. Check out those filter 
caps.
Regards,
Gary...WZ1M
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Subject: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?


I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling like 
mad, eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about dropping it 
in a can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or waste of time?
 73 Max

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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread AirRadio
Gary,
Just gone through a massive lightening storm here a moment ago so everything 
was off for a while, yes the caps are Ok, I have actually swapped out the 
transformer and tried it under a light load, exactly the same, I will be 
'hot dipping' this evening see how it is tomorrow, fingers crossed here 
goes.
73 Max M0GHQ/KJ4ISS


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To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?


 You say, latest boatanchor, which mite mean that the transformer is
 becoming saturated to much from an over load condition. This would cause a
 rattle. I have read the other posts and the preheat and a COUPLE of dips 
 in
 varnish would more than likely, cure your problem. Check out those filter
 caps.
 Regards,
 Gary...WZ1M
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 To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
 amradio@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:39 AM
 Subject: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?


I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling like
mad, eventually goes away after an hour or so, I thought about dropping it
in a can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or waste of time?
 73 Max

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Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?

2009-12-23 Thread Gary
Max:
While its out, it would not hurt a thing to give it several dips.
Regards,
TRS
Gary...WZ1M
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Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?


 Gary,
 Just gone through a massive lightening storm here a moment ago so 
 everything
 was off for a while, yes the caps are Ok, I have actually swapped out the
 transformer and tried it under a light load, exactly the same, I will be
 'hot dipping' this evening see how it is tomorrow, fingers crossed 
 here
 goes.
 73 Max M0GHQ/KJ4ISS


 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary xfr...@roadrunner.com
 To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
 amradio@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?


 You say, latest boatanchor, which mite mean that the transformer is
 becoming saturated to much from an over load condition. This would cause 
 a
 rattle. I have read the other posts and the preheat and a COUPLE of dips
 in
 varnish would more than likely, cure your problem. Check out those filter
 caps.
 Regards,
 Gary...WZ1M
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 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:39 AM
 Subject: [AMRadio] transformer rattle - kill or cure?


I have a mains transformer in my latest boatanchor, it is rattling like
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it
in a can of varnish, anyone cured one before, any luck or waste of time?
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[AMRadio] Transformer

2009-09-21 Thread RICHARD GEORGE
Looking for an interstage audio transformer.  PP plates to PPgrids with a 5 to 
1 ratio min. A thordarson 20D79 would be ideal.
Please reply off list.
Thanks for looking.
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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer/Choke

2008-05-19 Thread D. Chester


Does anyone have a reference for a UTC PA-109 choke?  All I've found so 
far

is UTC Varimatch Transformer manuals.  I'm just wondering what the
inductance and current rating is.



Rick/K5IAR


5-25 henry swinging choke.  5 hy @ 500MA, 25 hy@ 50MA.

This is the same thing as the CG-109, except that the case style is 
different.


The PA series is the original.  PA stands for Public Address.  In about 
1949, they changed the PA series to CG, which stands for Commercial Grade.


For a large selection of transformer catalogues and specifications in PDF 
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http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/xfm/index.html


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[AMRadio] Transformer info needed

2008-01-08 Thread jeremy-ca
Ive had these on a back shelf for years awaiting a resurgence in my AM 
interest.


Thordarson 6424, 8140
UTC CIC-2 (same as C-2?)

These may be Thordarson but the only # is stamped in the bell:  1221E, 3053, 
3211, 3552


Any ID help appreciated.

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress

2007-12-16 Thread David Knepper

Resent

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Try shrink tubing.

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Hello,
I just stripped out a basket case VK II transmitter for rebuilding.
Most of the transformer leads are brittle and even carefully removing 
them thru the chassis hole, I can feel the rubber inner jacket breaking 
up.

I would expect to replace the wires near as I can get to the windings.
The plate transformer will need good HT wire.

I have quite a bit of different sizes of silver teflon.
for most of the windings but not quite sure what to do about the HT 
wires.


This is a project transmitter, not a restoration.

 Suggestons? Sources of suitable wire in an affordable put up. I have 
other large transformers with the same problem as well.


Thanks,
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[AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread David Knepper

Need two transformers rewound:

Power transformer from an HT-32A

Collins 516F-2

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread Jim Wilhite
Dave, contact Gary/WZ1M at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  


He has done work for me and does a good job.

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread David Knepper

Thanks, Jim

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Dave, contact Gary/WZ1M at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He has done work for me and does a good job.

Jim/W5JO






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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread David Knepper

Jim, his email bounced.


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Dave, contact Gary/WZ1M at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He has done work for me and does a good job.

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RE: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread Rick Brashear
Dave.. As always I personally recommend Gary, WZ1M.  He has done several for
me and the work is excellent, quick turn around and the price is right.  I
highly recommend him. He is located at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rick/K5IAR


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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread David Knepper

Thanks, Rick.

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Dave.. As always I personally recommend Gary, WZ1M.  He has done several 
for

me and the work is excellent, quick turn around and the price is right.  I
highly recommend him. He is located at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rick/K5IAR


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RE: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread Phil LaMarche

Dave,

Wanted to mention with the 75A-1, I turned it back on and tried all bands,
hearing only 2 signals on 40 and 40 meters.  I don't know how many coils
there are that could be affected by the 75 meter AM zap.  I really think I
should pay something for these, please. Or, I'll send you a box of my
gourmet spice.

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Thanks, Rick.

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 Dave.. As always I personally recommend Gary, WZ1M.  He has done several 
 for
 me and the work is excellent, quick turn around and the price is right.  I
 highly recommend him. He is located at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Rick/K5IAR


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RE: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread Peter Wittenberg
Phil, you may want to rewind the coil. Take a look at what you may have done
before you jump to the answer. 

Best 73's Peter K2LRC
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Dave,

Wanted to mention with the 75A-1, I turned it back on and tried all bands,
hearing only 2 signals on 40 and 40 meters.  I don't know how many coils
there are that could be affected by the 75 meter AM zap.  I really think I
should pay something for these, please. Or, I'll send you a box of my
gourmet spice.

Phil


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Thanks, Rick.

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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:15 AM
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 highly recommend him. He is located at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Need two transformers rewound:

 Power transformer from an HT-32A

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress Dave

2007-12-16 Thread doxemf

Re-sent
From: David Knepper


Try shrink tubing.


  That works for minor cracks and breaks in the insulation but these 
leads are so brittle that replacement
is called for especially with the plate transformer at close to 2kv 
RMS. Heat shrink is also not very flexable but I might use it for the 
LV transformer and choke.


  I'm going to be turning this VK II chassis into an externally 
modulated RF deck.


 Thanks,
Wm.
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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread Gary
There is a reason my email bounced. Its XFRMRS, not XFRMS.
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 He has done work for me and does a good job.

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread David Knepper

Thanks, Gary for that correction.

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There is a reason my email bounced. Its XFRMRS, not XFRMS.
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Dave, contact Gary/WZ1M at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He has done work for me and does a good job.

Jim/W5JO






Need two transformers rewound:

Power transformer from an HT-32A

Collins 516F-2

Thank you
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Collins Radio Association


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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread Geoff/W5OMR

Jim Wilhite wrote:
Dave, contact Gary/WZ1M at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
He has done work for me and does a good job.


Jim/W5JO 


Gary's gonna be a busy beaver, since the announcement that Peter Dahl in 
El Paso has closed it's doors and is taking no more orders... and their 
shelves are empty of transformers.



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RE: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread Phil LaMarche

Thank you Peter.  I am told many wonderful things about you from my friend
Cliff, W4NJ, who has admired your services and work.

Howard just restored and painted my Collins speaker and it looks like new.

Phil 


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Phil, you may want to rewind the coil. Take a look at what you may have done
before you jump to the answer. 

Best 73's Peter K2LRC
www.k2lrc.com


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Dave,

Wanted to mention with the 75A-1, I turned it back on and tried all bands,
hearing only 2 signals on 40 and 40 meters.  I don't know how many coils
there are that could be affected by the 75 meter AM zap.  I really think I
should pay something for these, please. Or, I'll send you a box of my
gourmet spice.

Phil


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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

Thanks, Rick.

Dave, W3ST - W3CRA
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Join the largest Collins group in the world Nets on 7208 at 4:30 EDST every
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind


 Dave.. As always I personally recommend Gary, WZ1M.  He has done 
 several for me and the work is excellent, quick turn around and the 
 price is right.  I highly recommend him. He is located at: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Rick/K5IAR


 Need two transformers rewound:

 Power transformer from an HT-32A

 Collins 516F-2

 Thank you
 Dave, W3ST - W3CRA
 Collins Radio Association

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress Dave

2007-12-16 Thread Mike Sawyer
They do make a shrink tubing with a type of sealant inside. We used to use 
these when I worked at Babcock  Wilcox. They are somewhat stiff but I think 
it maintain insulation at 2KV potential.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK



   That works for minor cracks and breaks in the insulation but these
leads are so brittle that replacement
is called for especially with the plate transformer at close to 2kv
RMS. Heat shrink is also not very flexable but I might use it for the
LV transformer and choke.

   I'm going to be turning this VK II chassis into an externally
modulated RF deck.

 

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread jeremy-ca
The input coil is common to all bands in the 75A1, the secondary is then fed 
to the band switch.


Check the antenna coil primary first and then the secondary for continuity. 
Rewinding shouldnt be that hard if the form hasnt been destroyed. The 
hardest part will be removing it from the assembly.


Carl
KM1H



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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind


Phil, you may want to rewind the coil. Take a look at what you may have 
done

before you jump to the answer.

Best 73's Peter K2LRC
www.k2lrc.com


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Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind


Dave,

Wanted to mention with the 75A-1, I turned it back on and tried all bands,
hearing only 2 signals on 40 and 40 meters.  I don't know how many coils
there are that could be affected by the 75 meter AM zap.  I really think I
should pay something for these, please. Or, I'll send you a box of my
gourmet spice.

Phil


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www.instantgourmetspices.com
www.w9dvm.com
800-395-7795 pin 02
727-944-3226
FAX 727-937-8834
NASFT 30210
W9DVM



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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:24 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

Thanks, Rick.

Dave, W3ST - W3CRA
Collins Radio Association
www.collinsra.com
Join the largest Collins group in the world Nets on 7208 at 4:30 EDST 
every

day and Monday at 3805 at 8 PM EDST

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Dave.. As always I personally recommend Gary, WZ1M.  He has done several
for
me and the work is excellent, quick turn around and the price is right. 
I

highly recommend him. He is located at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rick/K5IAR


Need two transformers rewound:

Power transformer from an HT-32A

Collins 516F-2

Thank you
Dave, W3ST - W3CRA
Collins Radio Association

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewind

2007-12-16 Thread Geoff/W5OMR

jeremy-ca wrote:
The input coil is common to all bands in the 75A1, the secondary is 
then fed to the band switch.


Check the antenna coil primary first and then the secondary for 
continuity. Rewinding shouldnt be that hard if the form hasnt been 
destroyed. The hardest part will be removing it from the assembly.


A couple of decades ago, I accidently dumped a few hundred watts of RF 
directly into the front-end of an SX-73, on 75m.  The input coil took 
the brunt of the damage.


John Mohn/W5MEU(sk) told me to come out there and get some 24ga copper 
wire to re-wind that coil.  Very carefully, I removed the phoenelic 
board from the turret in which the coil was installed, then ever 
so-much-more carefully, removed the coil from the board.  There was a 
spot on the coil that -wasn't- burnt, so I was able to count turns, and 
re-wind the coil.  Luckily, I was working at Southwest Research 
Institute at the time, and was able to utilize a small-wattage iron, 
some organic stripper and a magnifying glass to re-solder the connections.



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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress

2007-12-11 Thread jeremy-ca
Since you are not dealing with any real HV any 600V rated wire will be fine 
as the actual breakdown is around 2-3 times that. They werent that fussy 
back then.


USA made VOM test leads are a good source of HV wire up to 5KV or so 
depending on their original use. Ive used them in many 2-3KV supplies over 
the years. Old ones can also get brittle so be carefull what you get.


Teflon is good for HV BUT it is very easily nicked and damaged.

Carl
KM1H



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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress



Try shrink tubing.

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Subject: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress



Hello,
I just stripped out a basket case VK II transmitter for rebuilding.
Most of the transformer leads are brittle and even carefully removing 
them thru the chassis hole, I can feel the rubber inner jacket breaking 
up.

I would expect to replace the wires near as I can get to the windings.
The plate transformer will need good HT wire.

I have quite a bit of different sizes of silver teflon.
for most of the windings but not quite sure what to do about the HT 
wires.


This is a project transmitter, not a restoration.

 Suggestons? Sources of suitable wire in an affordable put up. I have 
other large transformers with the same problem as well.


Thanks,
Bill, KB3DKS/1
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RE: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress

2007-12-11 Thread Jim Candela

Bill, KB3DKS/1 wrote:

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:00:48 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress
To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hello,
 I just stripped out a basket case VK II transmitter for rebuilding.
 Most of the transformer leads are brittle and even carefully removing
 them thru the chassis hole, I can feel the rubber inner jacket breaking
 up.
 I would expect to replace the wires near as I can get to the windings.
 
 The plate transformer will need good HT wire.
 
I have quite a bit of different sizes of silver teflon.
for most of the windings but not quite sure what to do about the HT
 wires.

 This is a project transmitter, not a restoration.

  Suggestons? Sources of suitable wire in an affordable put up. I have
 other large transformers with the same problem as well.

 Thanks,
Bill, KB3DKS/1



Reply by Jim, WD5JKO:

Bill, I went through this a few years ago on a Sherwood tube type stereo 
amplifier. See link below for some pictures.

http://pages.prodigy.net/jcandela/Sherwood_S8000/Transformer/

I spliced new wires onto the tinned leads, and used heatshrink for the 
insulation over the joint. Then I folded the wires back and taped them over the 
winding area. What started out looking like a total loss ended up good. I 
skipped dipping in transformer varnish along with a vacuum chamber to suck out 
the air so that the varnish would fill all the internal pores that have been 
created since the old potting material had disintegrated. So far after nearly 4 
years, my trusty Sherwood S800 is working fine.

Jim
JKO



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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress

2007-12-11 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
I found some silicone high voltage wire in an old
pager transmitter someone gave me.
It ran a 4-400 at 3000 volts, FM at about 70 mhz.
The silicone wire was about as thick as regular 18 gauge
stranded hookup wire, was white, and good for 10kv!

On some old iron, I cut the old wires off inside the shell,
and used heat shrink over the splice, and it works great,
and is a perminent nice looking fix.

Brett
N2DTS

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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:00 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress


 Hello,
  I just stripped out a basket case VK II transmitter for rebuilding.
  Most of the transformer leads are brittle and even carefully removing
them thru the chassis hole, I can feel the rubber inner jacket breaking up.
  I would expect to replace the wires near as I can get to the windings.
  The plate transformer will need good HT wire.

 I have quite a bit of different sizes of silver teflon.
 for most of the windings but not quite sure what to do about the HT wires.

  This is a project transmitter, not a restoration.

   Suggestons? Sources of suitable wire in an affordable put up. I have
other large transformers with the same problem as well.

  Thanks,
 Bill, KB3DKS/1
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[AMRadio] Transformer Lead Dress

2007-12-10 Thread DOXEMF
Hello,
 I just stripped out a basket case VK II transmitter for rebuilding.
 Most of the transformer leads are brittle and even carefully removing them 
thru the chassis hole, I can feel the rubber inner jacket breaking up.
 I would expect to replace the wires near as I can get to the windings. 
 The plate transformer will need good HT wire.
 
I have quite a bit of different sizes of silver teflon.
for most of the windings but not quite sure what to do about the HT wires.

 This is a project transmitter, not a restoration.

  Suggestons? Sources of suitable wire in an affordable put up. I have other 
large transformers with the same problem as well.

 Thanks,
Bill, KB3DKS/1
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[AMRadio] Transformer theory

2007-10-01 Thread Bob Bruhns
Passing this along, from the Amrad mail group.

http://www.midcom-inc.com/Tech/pdf/TN69.pdf

  Bacon, WA3WDR
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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer baking Recovery

2006-12-24 Thread John King
Thanks Joe. 73, John, K5PGW
--- crawfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John, I received a Word document from W4AEE about
 this very subject. I am
 having problems with Word on this computer, so I
 can't forward, but you
 might want to check with him.He is on this reflector
 from time to time.
 
  Joe W4AAB
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 From: John King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
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 Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 11:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer baking Recovery
 
 
  Did John, WA5BXO, bake the transformers? I have a
 nice
  BC 610 E that has been in the State of Kentucky
 until
  a couple of years ago ( not Gulf Coast humidity)
 and
  in my enclosed garqage in South Louisiana  for
 about
  two years. I plan to fire it up soon and an
 wondering
  if I should apply heat with heat lamps or electric
  heaters and for how long? Any ideas? Thanks, and
 73,
  John, K5PGW
 
 
  --- Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Rbethman wrote:
Folks,
   
Most of us have power, mod, audio, and other
   transformers that have
been due to storage requirements, exposed to
   humidity.
   
   
  
   John/WA5BXO had a modulation transformer, and
   reactor soaked in Spring
   Creek for 3 months, or thereabouts.  The year
 was
   1998, when they lost
   everything in the worst flooding of North
 Houston
   ever recorded.
  
   Those pieces of iron are still on the air,
 today.
  
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[AMRadio] Transformer baking Recovery

2006-12-18 Thread Rbethman

Folks,

Most of us have power, mod, audio, and other transformers that have
been due to storage requirements, exposed to humidity.

The 90 Deg C temp converts to 194 Deg F.

This would seem to be a starting point for a multiple hour bake session.

My Electric stove/oven has a 200 Deg F setting.

I plan to make some baking runs on xfmrs for periods between 2 to 4 hours.

This SHOULD take care of simple humidity issues.

Dealing with REAL MOISTURE issues is someplace I've been.  The year was
1975.  My team and I were installing a replacement 1500KW, 4160VAC, 230A
60 Hz synchronous generator.

We were located on the Island of American Samoa.  The military transport
folks, for reason never determined, had left this in an unprotected wood
shipping crate.  This crate sat OUTSIDE for about weeks in the summer
tropical environment AND rains.

We acquired about 12 floodlights, sockets, wiring, and plugs.  We
removed the end bells and confirmed a Depot Rebuilt assembly that was
indeed SOAKED.

We baked it with the end bells OFF for two weeks in a water-proof
shelter.  Testing was performed with first a Megger, then followed by a
Hi-Pot.  We determined that our effort was successful.

Several days later, we installed it, aligned it with the prime mover,
and then, crossing our fingers, started the generator, flashed its
field, and achieved full output voltage.  We did a careful step loading
until we reached full power of 1500KW 4160 3 Phase VAC at a power factor
of 0.8.

It was run for 72 hours in that condition.  It performed flawlessly.

To MY knowledge, this piece of equipment operated for at LEAST four
years without failure.

Baking works!  WE just shouldn't have to go to THOSE extremes to safely
recover OUR transformers.  Unless we have managed to let them get WET.

Bob - N0DGN

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer baking Recovery

2006-12-18 Thread James M. Walker

How the HELL are you? Also Greasy Seasonings there old soldier!
I feel your info will fall on deaf ears at this time of year. I am trying
to be civilized here in Buffalo, but without radios to play with It
Just ain't working, so right now I am doing the Bachelor thing at
work, not bad really. Got all the test equipment I regularly use at
home and then some, sleeping on the sofa in Boss's office and
building stuff and repairing radios and having a ball.

Samoan weather is brutal, wind blows across the beaches if
you are lucky, and it rains when no one wants it to!

SO lets see want to drive to Virginia beach and pick something
up and hold it for me? I know I still have an Apache there but
I still LOVE you. My pickup truck is dead DEAD and I am going to
drop it at Monroe Muffler and brake to let them repair it, if they can.

I have been working on the 500KC group stuff got the transmitter,
got the receiver coming from Cleveland, everything is set up for
portable operation from the University, if it is heard then I will have
to change the address/location info on the 500KC license.

How the heck are you and I still have AIM and you are listed in there
turn the thing on.
Sgt Boo
AKA Jim WB2FCN


- Original Message - 
From: Rbethman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: amradio amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Transformer baking Recovery



Folks,

Most of us have power, mod, audio, and other transformers that have
been due to storage requirements, exposed to humidity.

The 90 Deg C temp converts to 194 Deg F.

This would seem to be a starting point for a multiple hour bake session.

My Electric stove/oven has a 200 Deg F setting.

I plan to make some baking runs on xfmrs for periods between 2 to 4 hours.

This SHOULD take care of simple humidity issues.

Dealing with REAL MOISTURE issues is someplace I've been.  The year was
1975.  My team and I were installing a replacement 1500KW, 4160VAC, 230A
60 Hz synchronous generator.

We were located on the Island of American Samoa.  The military transport
folks, for reason never determined, had left this in an unprotected wood
shipping crate.  This crate sat OUTSIDE for about weeks in the summer
tropical environment AND rains.

We acquired about 12 floodlights, sockets, wiring, and plugs.  We
removed the end bells and confirmed a Depot Rebuilt assembly that was
indeed SOAKED.

We baked it with the end bells OFF for two weeks in a water-proof
shelter.  Testing was performed with first a Megger, then followed by a
Hi-Pot.  We determined that our effort was successful.

Several days later, we installed it, aligned it with the prime mover,
and then, crossing our fingers, started the generator, flashed its
field, and achieved full output voltage.  We did a careful step loading
until we reached full power of 1500KW 4160 3 Phase VAC at a power factor
of 0.8.

It was run for 72 hours in that condition.  It performed flawlessly.

To MY knowledge, this piece of equipment operated for at LEAST four
years without failure.

Baking works!  WE just shouldn't have to go to THOSE extremes to safely
recover OUR transformers.  Unless we have managed to let them get WET.

Bob - N0DGN

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer baking Recovery

2006-12-18 Thread Geoff/W5OMR

Rbethman wrote:

Folks,

Most of us have power, mod, audio, and other transformers that have
been due to storage requirements, exposed to humidity.




John/WA5BXO had a modulation transformer, and reactor soaked in Spring 
Creek for 3 months, or thereabouts.  The year was 1998, when they lost 
everything in the worst flooding of North Houston ever recorded.


Those pieces of iron are still on the air, today.

--
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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer baking Recovery

2006-12-18 Thread John King
Did John, WA5BXO, bake the transformers? I have a nice
BC 610 E that has been in the State of Kentucky until
a couple of years ago ( not Gulf Coast humidity) and
in my enclosed garqage in South Louisiana  for about
two years. I plan to fire it up soon and an wondering
if I should apply heat with heat lamps or electric
heaters and for how long? Any ideas? Thanks, and 73,
John, K5PGW

 
--- Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rbethman wrote:
  Folks,
 
  Most of us have power, mod, audio, and other
 transformers that have
  been due to storage requirements, exposed to
 humidity.
 
 
 
 John/WA5BXO had a modulation transformer, and
 reactor soaked in Spring 
 Creek for 3 months, or thereabouts.  The year was
 1998, when they lost 
 everything in the worst flooding of North Houston
 ever recorded.
 
 Those pieces of iron are still on the air, today.
 
 --
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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer baking Recovery

2006-12-18 Thread Geoff/W5OMR




John King wrote:


Did John, WA5BXO, bake the transformers? I have a nice
BC 610 E that has been in the State of Kentucky until
a couple of years ago ( not Gulf Coast humidity) and
in my enclosed garqage in South Louisiana  for about
two years. I plan to fire it up soon and an wondering
if I should apply heat with heat lamps or electric
heaters and for how long? Any ideas? Thanks, and 73,
John, K5PGW



I don't know if he baked 'em, or ust let 'em sit outside on the driveway 
for a couple of days, in the typical South Texas Sun.



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[AMRadio] Transformer Case Outline Pinouts

2006-12-06 Thread David Hollander
Hello - I am trying to find a pin connection diagram for the UTC special 
series S-17 transformer. I have looked at the on-line catalogs and they 
do not have the pinouts, only the specs. The one document on BAMA does 
not have the Special Series transformers.


Thanks,

Dave N7RK
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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewinding

2006-06-08 Thread gkb
Bob:
That mite of been me, WZ1M, up here in Maine.
Regards,
Gary...WZ1M
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From: Bob Maser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AMRadio amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewinding


 Some time back in 2005 I found a guy that rewound the power transformer
for
 my HRO60.  He did a great job and his price was reasonable.  I have
another
 transformer that needs to be rewound and I can't locate his name.  Can
 anyone help me find this guy?  I think he was somewhere in the East.
Maybe
 in 3 land, not sure.

 Bob  W6TR.

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewinding

2006-06-07 Thread Brian Carling
There is a full list of Transformer Rewinder Guys that 
you can consult at:

http://www.af4k.com/Boatanchors_Directory/Repairs.htm
AND at:
http://www.af4k.com/mega/repairs.htm

I hope it's helpful!

 Some time back in 2005 I found a guy that rewound the power transformer for 
 my HRO60.  He did a great job and his price was reasonable.  I have another 
 transformer that needs to be rewound and I can't locate his name.  Can 
 anyone help me find this guy?  I think he was somewhere in the East.  Maybe 
 in 3 land, not sure.
 
 Bob  W6TR. 
 
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[AMRadio] Transformer Rewinding

2006-06-06 Thread Bob Maser
Some time back in 2005 I found a guy that rewound the power transformer for 
my HRO60.  He did a great job and his price was reasonable.  I have another 
transformer that needs to be rewound and I can't locate his name.  Can 
anyone help me find this guy?  I think he was somewhere in the East.  Maybe 
in 3 land, not sure.


Bob  W6TR. 



Re: [AMRadio] Transformer Rewinding

2006-06-06 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ

On 6/6/06, Bob Maser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Some time back in 2005 I found a guy that rewound the power transformer for
my HRO60.  He did a great job and his price was reasonable.


Bob, was it Gary Brown WZ1M in Maine?

http://tubes_tubes_tubes.tripod.com/tubestubestubes/

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ


Re: [AMRadio] Transformer catalogs

2005-12-14 Thread peter markavage
Here's a source:
http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/xfm/index.html

Pete, wa2cwa

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:39:46 -0800 Edward B Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Hi all;
 
 I remember seeing where someone had posted transformer 
 specifications
 somewhere on the web. I was not interested at the time so I did not 
 save
 it (mistake). I now need to identify 3 transformers and a choke. All 
 are
 about the size of a car battery and weigh about the same. Can 
 someone
 point me in the right direction? they are;
 
 1. Super Electronic Products Corporation type 466-T-1
 2. Thordarson Electric Mfg, co. CAT transformer T-15P10 or T-15P19, 
 900
 watts.
 3. Electro Engineering Works. No numbers other than numbering the
 terminals; 123 on one row, 4567 on other row. 
 4. Above came with a matching choke by the same company no. 
 678-0625-00
 rev F.
 
 I need something that will produce 3 kv @ 500 ma DC.
 
 Thank you and Merry Christmas.
 
 73, Ed Richards, K6UUZ
 Simi Valley, California, 93065
 Home of Air Force 1 Pavilion


Re: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer catalogs

2005-12-14 Thread ltaft
Looks like 3. Electro Engineering Works 123, 4567 is a 866 filament xfmr and 
678-0625-00 is a 10 Hy choke @ 1 amp, both from a Collins 20V3 1 Kw AM xmtr.

73, Larry  K2LT


  3. Electro Engineering Works. No numbers other than numbering the
  terminals; 123 on one row, 4567 on other row. 
  4. Above came with a matching choke by the same company no. 
  678-0625-00
  rev F.
  
  I need something that will produce 3 kv @ 500 ma DC.
  
  Thank you and Merry Christmas.
  
  73, Ed Richards, K6UUZ
  Simi Valley, California, 93065
  Home of Air Force 1 Pavilion
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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer catalogs

2005-12-14 Thread Edward B Richards
Thanks, Pete. That was it. Merry Christmas.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:17:09 -0500 peter markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Here's a source:
 http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/xfm/index.html
 
 Pete, wa2cwa


Re: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer catalogs

2005-12-14 Thread ltaft
Plate V is 3100 and the choke is in the high side.

Larry

 
 From: Edward B Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/12/14 Wed PM 04:02:15 WET
 To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer catalogs
 
 Thanks, Larry. That helps. I don't understand why the choke says VOLTAGE:
 110-120 VOLTS. It is a high voltage choke isn't it? Thanks and Merry
 Christmas.
 
 73, Ed Richards, K6UUZ
 Simi Valley, California, 93065
 Home of Air Force 1 Pavilion
 
 On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:35:12 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Looks like 3. Electro Engineering Works 123, 4567 is a 866 filament 
  xfmr and 678-0625-00 is a 10 Hy choke @ 1 amp, both from a Collins 
  20V3 1 Kw AM xmtr.
  
  73, Larry  K2LT
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Re: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer catalogs

2005-12-14 Thread Edward B Richards
Thanks, again, Larry

73, Ed Richards, K6UUZ
Simi Valley, California, 93065
Home of Air Force 1 Pavilion


On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:50:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Plate V is 3100 and the choke is in the high side.


  
  From: Edward B Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2005/12/14 Wed PM 04:02:15 WET
  To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer catalogs
  
  Thanks, Larry. That helps. I don't understand why the choke says 
 VOLTAGE:
  110-120 VOLTS. It is a high voltage choke isn't it? Thanks and 
 Merry
  Christmas.
  
  73, Ed Richards, K6UUZ
  Simi Valley, California, 93065
  Home of Air Force 1 Pavilion
  
  On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:35:12 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Looks like 3. Electro Engineering Works 123, 4567 is a 866 
 filament 
   xfmr and 678-0625-00 is a 10 Hy choke @ 1 amp, both from a 
 Collins 
   20V3 1 Kw AM xmtr.
   
   73, Larry  K2LT
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[AMRadio] Transformer catalogs

2005-12-13 Thread Edward B Richards
Hi all;

I remember seeing where someone had posted transformer specifications
somewhere on the web. I was not interested at the time so I did not save
it (mistake). I now need to identify 3 transformers and a choke. All are
about the size of a car battery and weigh about the same. Can someone
point me in the right direction? they are;

1. Super Electronic Products Corporation type 466-T-1
2. Thordarson Electric Mfg, co. CAT transformer T-15P10 or T-15P19, 900
watts.
3. Electro Engineering Works. No numbers other than numbering the
terminals; 123 on one row, 4567 on other row. 
4. Above came with a matching choke by the same company no. 678-0625-00
rev F.

I need something that will produce 3 kv @ 500 ma DC.

Thank you and Merry Christmas.

73, Ed Richards, K6UUZ
Simi Valley, California, 93065
Home of Air Force 1 Pavilion


[AMRadio] transformer

2004-12-22 Thread CHRIS PAPAIOANNOU
73 all,
looking for a 350-0-350 @ 300-350mA transformer.Not interested if 6.3V  5.00V 
there are or not.
Merry Christmas and the happiest 2005 to all ya  ur families!
Chris SV1DAF.
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Awk!!  There is no AM Window on 15 meters.  You can use the entire phone
band.  Typically though, AM activity is around 21.420.

As to why it isn't used much, I suspect it's because 10M has been good.  As
we head further into the sunspot doldrums, you'll probably see more activity
on 15M.

A lot of us that are 10M addicts monitor 29.0 whilst putzing in the shack.
It would probably be a good idea to set a second receiver on 21.420!   I'm
not sure what the AM calling frequency is for 15 though, it might not be
21.420.  Check the band plan.

73 Mark K3MSB


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- Original Message -
From: Mike Duke, K5XU [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 5:48 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] AM Window on 15 Meters?


 As 10 meters began its decline a few years ago, I would often ask AM
 operators if they ever used 15 meters. With very few exceptions, the
answer
 would usually go something like: No, because I never hear anyone else
down
 there.

 There was AM activity for a brief time around 21.400, and on 21.430. But,
in
 casual tuning on the weekends, I have heard less than 5 AM stations on 15
 meters within the past year.

 I say all that to ask just where is the AM window on 15 meters?

 And, why don't more of us operate there?

 Unless there's a contest, 15 meters is usually not crowded. Those of us
who
 run rice boxes or similar power can usually hold our own there once a
 contact is established.


 Mike Duke, K5XU
 American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs



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[AMRadio] Transformer needed

2003-12-23 Thread w5sum
I'm in need of a combined plate/filament tranny

750 or 800 vct
6.3V ct and 5v filament windings

anyone have one of these beasts they will part with?

thanks and Merry Christmas

Ronnie

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer needed

2003-12-23 Thread Geoff Edmonson
I spewed my drink all over the monitor when on Tuesday 23 December 2003 12:48, 
w5sum said (and I am -not- making this up!)::

 I'm in need of a combined plate/filament tranny

 750 or 800 vct
 6.3V ct and 5v filament windings

 anyone have one of these beasts they will part with?

 thanks and Merry Christmas

I've got one, Ronnie.   I need a road trip.  where do ya wanna meet?

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer needed

2003-12-23 Thread ronnie.hull
LOL well damn man, I hate that I made you shower your monitor but at least it 
wasn't your keyboard

it aint worth the drive dude.. let me send you some cash for shipping and how 
much do you want for it?

Hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas. Going to be quiet at my QTH 
with no chillens around

73's 

R



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From: Geoff Edmonson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:53:56 -0600
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Transformer needed

 I spewed my drink all over the monitor when on Tuesday 23 December 
 2003 12:48, w5sum said (and I am -not- making this up!)::
 
  I'm in need of a combined plate/filament tranny
 
  750 or 800 vct
  6.3V ct and 5v filament windings
 
  anyone have one of these beasts they will part with?
 
  thanks and Merry Christmas
 
 I've got one, Ronnie.   I need a road trip.  where do ya wanna meet?
 
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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer needed

2003-12-23 Thread Geoff Edmonson
I spewed my drink all over the monitor when on Tuesday 23 December 2003 13:33, 
w5sum said (and I am -not- making this up!)::

how about 800vCT at 1Amp?

 oh.. what kind of current does it have for the plate voltage? I need about
 120 mills

(realize, the spewing comment at the top is just a feature of the new mail 
program ;-)

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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer needed

2003-12-23 Thread Tbs50A
Hey Ronnie,
   Are you lookin' fer new or used and how much plate current?
Terry N3GTE


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Re: [AMRadio] Transformer needed

2003-12-23 Thread w5sum
hi Terry
new or used is good

120-150 ma of current. I can't believe that I left that part out LOL

Merry Christmas

Ronnie

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:05:20 EST, Tbs50A wrote
 Hey Ronnie,
Are you lookin' fer new or used and how much 
 plate current? Terry N3GTE
 
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