Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth Petition Withdrawn
I thought that they had already made a statement on this and withdrawn it a while back, and still tried to maintain that they were right even though they didn't get their way! If that IS what they said then it would seem to be an incredibly arrogant attitude after such a silly mistake. > This info crossed the qrp-l group last night. I thought it would be of > interest here as well. > > > The ARRL has rescinded its petition for rule making to the FCC > requesting regulation by bandwidth rather than mode: > > http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/04/27/101/?nc=1 > > > The subject will be reconsidered in the July 2007 ARRL BOD meeting, > so now is a good time to begin formulating your thoughts on the > subject and sending a letter expressing your views to your ARRL > Director and Vice Directors. > > The ARRL cited "widepsread misconceptions" about the petition. > > > > Mike Duke, K5XU > American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] bandwidth vs. bandspace
Of course, and I could substitute this word for that word and that word for this word, etc. Maybe the FCC also reads between the lines. Pete, wa2cwa On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:03:53 -0800 (PST) VJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pete, look gently on Stephen's comment. > Substitute the word bandspace for bandwidth below and > it all makes sense. > > Paul/VJB > > > > More importantly, I respectfully request that FCC > > provide Amplitude > > Modulation transmission by Amateur Radio stations > > with MORE BANDWIDTH...and > > ...specifically bandwidth - on 160 meters to 10 > > meters - for AM USE ONLY. > > > > Regards, > > Stephen Tetorka > > WA2TAK > > Fair Haven, NJ
RE: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
Well, 30 DB down from 1500 is 1.5 watts. There is a lot of difference between 30 and 60 DB. I don't think I remember reading any suggested skirt step or anything like that. I wonder if these folks have got a clue? John, WA5BXO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff/W5OMR Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:29 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth > By the Way, just how many DB down from 1500 Watts do they want > the unwanted sideband energy? 30 to 60db down from the fundamental. At least what's what the spurs have to be reduced by. I just read that in the RFI section on the Awful Racket Raising League's website. (www.arrl.net) > There is no such thing as "no energy" in > any spectrum! I remember when Otis K5SWK was tuning an antenna using a > grid dip meter and accidentally left it on. It caused complaints later > in the night when the 75 meter band opened up, from some fellows in > another state. That had to be less than 1 watt. I have never seen one > capable of even putting a glimmer on a #47 bulb. ___ AMRadio mailing list AMRadio@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio
Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
> By the Way, just how many DB down from 1500 Watts do they want > the unwanted sideband energy? 30 to 60db down from the fundamental. At least what's what the spurs have to be reduced by. I just read that in the RFI section on the Awful Racket Raising League's website. (www.arrl.net) > There is no such thing as "no energy" in > any spectrum! I remember when Otis K5SWK was tuning an antenna using a > grid dip meter and accidentally left it on. It caused complaints later > in the night when the 75 meter band opened up, from some fellows in > another state. That had to be less than 1 watt. I have never seen one > capable of even putting a glimmer on a #47 bulb.
Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
3 KHz bandwidth for all amateur transmissions? Well, they're going to hear from the packet, ATV, FM and satellite amateurs if they try to pull this stunt. This had better be electromagnetic legend. I hope they know what they would be getting into here. But it seems to me that we've heard about this before. Wasn't it the head of the ARRL, on a 15 KHz wide FM repeater, who shot his mouth off about a 3 KHz bandwidth limit - and then backed down and said he was only kidding? Bacon, WA3WDR
Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
That's fine just as long as we all remember it was K1MAN that screwed the 1KW plate input rule... Want to join AARA??? Give credit where credit is due... Maybe this time he'll do away with amateur radio altogether... Remember, big business wants our spectrum... isn't that what k1man said? 73 ka1iic Vince On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Charles Ring wrote: > > After what happened to 1KW plate input AM as a sneakily inserted side effect > of > changing over to a RF output power limit, it'a only too easy to believe that > AM > could be killed off along with the splattering slopbuckets with identical > logic. > Law is a weapon. > > 73 de W3NU > > > > > > > > > ___ > AMRadio mailing list > AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio >
Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
Mike Cowart wrote: > Gentlemen: > > Before lambasting Bob and Riley, should we not verify the story? I sent some > email to Bob asking him if what was being passed around is true. He flatly > denied it and was dismayed when he saw it. There is no plan to limit BW. > There is, however, some concern on Riley's part about the 7 to 8 kHz SSB > signals being heard on the bands these days. That is ALL I will say about > that. After what happened to 1KW plate input AM as a sneakily inserted side effect of changing over to a RF output power limit, it'a only too easy to believe that AM could be killed off along with the splattering slopbuckets with identical logic. Law is a weapon. 73 de W3NU
Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
Very true. I had tried to post the information, a week ago, but I used the wrong e-mail address to do it with, and consequently it came back to me, like an Australian boomerang :-) I can not go into detail on my source, but it has in the past been quite reliable. 73 = Best Regards, -=Jeff/W5OMR=- == : Thanks Mike I think your words are spoken with wisdom and fairness! : Let's get more information before we get too heated on this one... : > Gentlemen: : > : > Before lambasting Bob and Riley, should we not verify the story? I sent : some : > email to Bob asking him if what was being passed around is true. He flatly : > denied it and was dismayed when he saw it. There is no plan to limit BW. : > There is, however, some concern on Riley's part about the 7 to 8 kHz SSB : > signals being heard on the bands these days. That is ALL I will say about : > that. : > : > 73 all, : > Mike : > WA5CMI
Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
Thanks Mike I think your words are spoken with wisdom and fairness! Let's get more information before we get too heated on this one... Brian W5AMI - Original Message - From: Mike Cowart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Bandwidth > Gentlemen: > > Before lambasting Bob and Riley, should we not verify the story? I sent some > email to Bob asking him if what was being passed around is true. He flatly > denied it and was dismayed when he saw it. There is no plan to limit BW. > There is, however, some concern on Riley's part about the 7 to 8 kHz SSB > signals being heard on the bands these days. That is ALL I will say about > that. > > 73 all, > Mike > WA5CMI > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:19 PM > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth > > > In a message dated 7/15/02 10:30:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Hi Jeff, > > Between you and me and the lamp post, I think Bob Heil is making lots of > money on something I, as a broadcast engineer, have known about and used for > years, possibly before Bob was born. Equalizers are wonderful toys when > used > properly, and it doesn't take a special expensive mic to do it. Hipe is a > wonderful thing, I guess! > > Just my thoughts. > > 73, > > John, W4AWM > ___ > AMRadio mailing list > AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > > ___ > AMRadio mailing list > AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio >
RE: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
Gentlemen: Before lambasting Bob and Riley, should we not verify the story? I sent some email to Bob asking him if what was being passed around is true. He flatly denied it and was dismayed when he saw it. There is no plan to limit BW. There is, however, some concern on Riley's part about the 7 to 8 kHz SSB signals being heard on the bands these days. That is ALL I will say about that. 73 all, Mike WA5CMI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:19 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth In a message dated 7/15/02 10:30:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Hi Jeff, Between you and me and the lamp post, I think Bob Heil is making lots of money on something I, as a broadcast engineer, have known about and used for years, possibly before Bob was born. Equalizers are wonderful toys when used properly, and it doesn't take a special expensive mic to do it. Hipe is a wonderful thing, I guess! Just my thoughts. 73, John, W4AWM ___ AMRadio mailing list AMRadio@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio
Re: [AMRadio] Bandwidth
In a message dated 7/15/02 10:30:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Hi Jeff, Between you and me and the lamp post, I think Bob Heil is making lots of money on something I, as a broadcast engineer, have known about and used for years, possibly before Bob was born. Equalizers are wonderful toys when used properly, and it doesn't take a special expensive mic to do it. Hipe is a wonderful thing, I guess! Just my thoughts. 73, John, W4AWM
