[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
Well said David, now a new subject matter gets the delete key. DX-ing on AO-7 Bob W7LRD - Original Message - From: "David - KG4ZLB" To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:09:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship It's not altogether surprising that this topic is being discussed but really folks, lets look at the facts! The whole issue revolves around just a few members/posters who continually try and push the boundaries on what is a large list with respected and influential members all over the World. We all know who they are; the ones that immediately post a facetious reply to a newbie question, the ones that post one line,or worse still, one word answers that are ambiguous at best and downright rude at worst; the ones that take childish delight in trying to elicit the maximum controversy with seemingly innocuous postings. We know who they are and they know who they are and the laws of defamation restrict me in naming them! There is a delete key on your keyboard; there are message filters built in to your e-mail client and if you really get offended then there is always the "un-subscribe" route. But if anyone on the list ever gets to having to be warned by AMSAT about their conduct on the BB or worse still, be faced with suspension/expulsion from the list then shame on you! For the most part we are all responsible adults involved in a fairly expensive hobby (note "hobby") that is both highly technical and to most people, quite complicated. If anyone feels that they can do a better job than anyone on the current Board then by all means file a motion of no confidence and see how many fully paid up members back you. Put up or shut up. That we have even had to come to an Acceptable Use Policy for this board should make certain members/posters question whether they should even be members. Rant over David KG4ZLB ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
lol Robert WB5MZO life member > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:55:09 -0900 > To: kg4...@gmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org > From: kl...@acsalaska.net > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship > > At 02:09 PM 1/15/2010, David - KG4ZLB wrote: > >It's not altogether surprising that this topic is being discussed but > >really folks, lets look at the facts! > > > >The whole issue revolves around just a few members/posters who > >continually try and push the boundaries on what is a large list with > >respected and influential members all over the World. > > > >We all know who they are; the ones that immediately post a facetious > >reply to a newbie question, the ones that post one line,or worse still, > >one word answers that are ambiguous at best and downright rude at worst; > >the ones that take childish delight in trying to elicit the maximum > >controversy with seemingly innocuous postings. We know who they are and > >they know who they are and the laws of defamation restrict me in naming > >them! > > > >There is a delete key on your keyboard; there are message filters built > >in to your e-mail client and if you really get offended then there is > >always the "un-subscribe" route. > > > >But if anyone on the list ever gets to having to be warned by AMSAT > >about their conduct on the BB or worse still, be faced with > >suspension/expulsion from the list then shame on you! > > > >For the most part we are all responsible adults involved in a fairly > >expensive hobby (note "hobby") that is both highly technical and to most > >people, quite complicated. If anyone feels that they can do a better job > >than anyone on the current Board then by all means file a motion of no > >confidence and see how many fully paid up members back you. > > > >Put up or shut up. > > > >That we have even had to come to an Acceptable Use Policy for this board > >should make certain members/posters question whether they should even be > >members. > > > >Rant over > > > >David > >KG4ZLB > > > > > > > >___ > >Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > My Delete key is overheating...tell you anything? Those that do not > cause rules have nothing to worry about. Those that the rules were > made for ...wellI have a delete key ;-) > I am way too busy in my "hobby" to bother with lurkers or > naysayers. For a clue look at my website. Genuine , respectful > debate will not be censored. > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 > == > BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com > 500-KHz/CW, 144-MHz EME, 1296-MHz EME > DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com > == > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board
Clint...being on a listening tour and doing the will of the people are two
different items.
I have no doubt that any elected representative you have takes your calls,
emails...etc...that is different from responding to them by actually voting
that way.
Amsat is an organization that has produced very little of value in terms of
working satellites in a long time
Robert WB5MZO life member
> From: clintbra...@earthlink.net
> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:16:18 -0800
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board
>
> >> ... The AMSAT BOD is more or less acting, in my view, like our politicians
> >> in Washington ie once they are elected they are to busy to listen to the
> >> people who make up the group ...
>
> Your membership experience in AMSAT - and in our democracy - is way different
> than mine.
>
> I send an email on an issue to an AMSAT board member, and I receive a written
> reply in a reasonable amount of time. EVERY time.
>
> I pick up the telephone and get right through to the legislative aide I know
> at my US Senator's office - 45 hours a week, any time.
>
> For local issues, I can speak with either of two assistants to my county
> supervisor during the week. I have the home phone number of one of them.
>
> These entities are not "too busy to listen" to me.
>
> Developing effective communication skills may be a key in how effective one's
> message is. And if that message contains what the AMSAT BOD has identified as
> objectionable (" ... Illegal ... Insulting, abusive, harassing, or
> threatening ... Knowingly false or misrepresentative ... " ) then that
> messenger needs to clean up his/her act.
>
>
>
> Clint Bradfiord, K6LCS
> AMSAT area coordinator, AMSAT benefactor
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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25
Yo Clint bad comparison. Your house, my house(s) (grin), (insert names) house is private property with an expectation both in common law, law, and ethics of privacy. It is no where near the same as a public board which would not exist without the funds of members who pay dues. If the AMSAT board members were doing all the financial lifting for the board with no dues used then there might be some better comparison...but ... sorry the comparison is not even close. In fact it is frankly very poor...about the worst one can have. nice try. I would have to give you a D minus Robert WB5MZO life member > From: clintbra...@earthlink.net > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:06:01 -0800 > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 > > >> ... If you are a member of AMSAT in my view short of threatening death or > >> shouting fire when there is no fire...you pretty much get to lay ones two > >> cents on the line ... > > Yo, Robert - I'm coming over to your house this weekend. No, you didn't > invite me, but I'll show up anyway. I am bringing my sick St. Bernard - he > might mess up the carpet a little until he gets well. I might stay a week or > so, I dunno. I kinda like that artwork on your mantle - I think I'll take it > home with me when I leave. Sorry about the spilled Pina Colada stain on the > rug - I get excited while watching San Diego Chargers football. And I knocked > a hole in the wall of that back bedroom - to feed some cabling through for > the portable tower I brought with me. The smoke damage from that little fire > I accidentally started in the kitchen won't cost you too much in repairs - > and the awful smell will go away in a year or so, no biggie. Hey - the fridge > is now empty - great Omaha steaks, by the way ... and I used up all your > charcoal ... > > No, Robert, you would not welcome my presence in your house. You would ban me > for life. You'd change the locks and have a restraining order issued. > > A private club's (i.e., one not sponsored by the government) membership > message board can be set up in any way its officials decide. Those that are > not allowed in have no legal recourse. Heck, there was a post today right > here that - if *I* were moderating the system - would never have been seen by > anyone else. > > And so it goes > > Clint Bradford, K6LCS > > > > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
At 02:09 PM 1/15/2010, David - KG4ZLB wrote: >It's not altogether surprising that this topic is being discussed but >really folks, lets look at the facts! > >The whole issue revolves around just a few members/posters who >continually try and push the boundaries on what is a large list with >respected and influential members all over the World. > >We all know who they are; the ones that immediately post a facetious >reply to a newbie question, the ones that post one line,or worse still, >one word answers that are ambiguous at best and downright rude at worst; >the ones that take childish delight in trying to elicit the maximum >controversy with seemingly innocuous postings. We know who they are and >they know who they are and the laws of defamation restrict me in naming >them! > >There is a delete key on your keyboard; there are message filters built >in to your e-mail client and if you really get offended then there is >always the "un-subscribe" route. > >But if anyone on the list ever gets to having to be warned by AMSAT >about their conduct on the BB or worse still, be faced with >suspension/expulsion from the list then shame on you! > >For the most part we are all responsible adults involved in a fairly >expensive hobby (note "hobby") that is both highly technical and to most >people, quite complicated. If anyone feels that they can do a better job >than anyone on the current Board then by all means file a motion of no >confidence and see how many fully paid up members back you. > >Put up or shut up. > >That we have even had to come to an Acceptable Use Policy for this board >should make certain members/posters question whether they should even be >members. > >Rant over > >David >KG4ZLB > > > >___ >Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb My Delete key is overheating...tell you anything? Those that do not cause rules have nothing to worry about. Those that the rules were made for ...wellI have a delete key ;-) I am way too busy in my "hobby" to bother with lurkers or naysayers. For a clue look at my website. Genuine , respectful debate will not be censored. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 500-KHz/CW, 144-MHz EME, 1296-MHz EME DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board
>> ... The AMSAT BOD is more or less acting, in my view, like our politicians
>> in Washington ie once they are elected they are to busy to listen to the
>> people who make up the group ...
Your membership experience in AMSAT - and in our democracy - is way different
than mine.
I send an email on an issue to an AMSAT board member, and I receive a written
reply in a reasonable amount of time. EVERY time.
I pick up the telephone and get right through to the legislative aide I know at
my US Senator's office - 45 hours a week, any time.
For local issues, I can speak with either of two assistants to my county
supervisor during the week. I have the home phone number of one of them.
These entities are not "too busy to listen" to me.
Developing effective communication skills may be a key in how effective one's
message is. And if that message contains what the AMSAT BOD has identified as
objectionable (" ... Illegal ... Insulting, abusive, harassing, or threatening
... Knowingly false or misrepresentative ... " ) then that messenger needs to
clean up his/her act.
Clint Bradfiord, K6LCS
AMSAT area coordinator, AMSAT benefactor
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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25
>> ... If you are a member of AMSAT in my view short of threatening death or >> shouting fire when there is no fire...you pretty much get to lay ones two >> cents on the line ... Yo, Robert - I'm coming over to your house this weekend. No, you didn't invite me, but I'll show up anyway. I am bringing my sick St. Bernard - he might mess up the carpet a little until he gets well. I might stay a week or so, I dunno. I kinda like that artwork on your mantle - I think I'll take it home with me when I leave. Sorry about the spilled Pina Colada stain on the rug - I get excited while watching San Diego Chargers football. And I knocked a hole in the wall of that back bedroom - to feed some cabling through for the portable tower I brought with me. The smoke damage from that little fire I accidentally started in the kitchen won't cost you too much in repairs - and the awful smell will go away in a year or so, no biggie. Hey - the fridge is now empty - great Omaha steaks, by the way ... and I used up all your charcoal ... No, Robert, you would not welcome my presence in your house. You would ban me for life. You'd change the locks and have a restraining order issued. A private club's (i.e., one not sponsored by the government) membership message board can be set up in any way its officials decide. Those that are not allowed in have no legal recourse. Heck, there was a post today right here that - if *I* were moderating the system - would never have been seen by anyone else. And so it goes Clint Bradford, K6LCS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
> > When you are using the private resources of the AMSAT corporation, they can > do whatever they like. > > > > > -Steve > > N1JFU - http://n1jfu.blogspot.com - sme...@twitter that probably holds true (I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV but I have been associated in a governing capacity with "Amsat like" organizations, much larger ones in fact) as long as one is "not a member". If you are a member however, not so much. Robert WB5MZO life member _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
Right on Steve 73, Bob, K1REM -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org]on Behalf Of Steve Meuse Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:11 PM To: Joel Black Cc: Clint Bradford; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship Joel Black expunged (jbblac...@gmail.com): > What I disagree with is the statement, "AMSAT is not 'censoring' anyone." > > Now, I'm no lawyer by any stretch, but I can read. Censoring is > limiting speech based on what one finds objectionable. What is > objectionable is completely subjective. When you are using the private resources of the AMSAT corporation, they can do whatever they like. That's not censorship, that's protecting their own resources. I, for one, welcome our new mailing list overlords :) -Steve N1JFU - http://n1jfu.blogspot.com - sme...@twitter ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
Steve Meuse wrote: > When you are using the private resources of the AMSAT corporation, they can > do whatever they like. > > That's not censorship, that's protecting their own resources. > > I, for one, welcome our new mailing list overlords :) > > > -Steve > > Spot on Steve, along with David's earlier post. Hell, we even allow non-members to complain about the free services we provide. Just keep it civil and productive. Look at this thread and you'll find at least one already who's never been a paying member. 73, Drew KO4MA PS I voted yes for the AUP, and probably pushed hardest for it to be implemented. Feel free to vote me out or run against me next election if you object. And if you are a member. Personal communications has been about 20 to 1 in favor of the taming of -bb. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
Joel Black expunged (jbblac...@gmail.com): > What I disagree with is the statement, "AMSAT is not 'censoring' anyone." > > Now, I'm no lawyer by any stretch, but I can read. Censoring is > limiting speech based on what one finds objectionable. What is > objectionable is completely subjective. When you are using the private resources of the AMSAT corporation, they can do whatever they like. That's not censorship, that's protecting their own resources. I, for one, welcome our new mailing list overlords :) -Steve N1JFU - http://n1jfu.blogspot.com - sme...@twitter ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
I guess this is as good a time to say this as any... Ummm... if AMSAT is going to only allow "yea" sayers then would your message have made it through? Have a nice day! Eric W4OTN On 01/15/2010 06:08 PM, Jack K. wrote: > Sounds like a good definition for "elitist" rule to me, however you coat > something, remember at the core is the seed you began with, if all you are > looking for is "yea" Sayers then "moderating" a BB is an excellent > beginning. > > De KD1PE ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
I find the entire thing rather silly. If the organization were flying satellites and functioning well that might be something but as it is...it is sort of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM&feature=related "Gentleman you can't fight in here, This is the war room" courtesy Dr. Strangelove Robert WB5MZO life member CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org From: clintbra...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:57:22 -0800 To: orbit...@hotmail.com >> ... but the "guidelines" are so broad as to be meaningless ... I see the guidelines as a verbose version of: Be a responsible citizen of the planet. Clint _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
Sounds like a good definition for "elitist" rule to me, however you coat something, remember at the core is the seed you began with, if all you are looking for is "yea" Sayers then "moderating" a BB is an excellent beginning. De KD1PE -- From: "Clint Bradford" Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:37 PM To: "Joel Black" Cc: Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship >>> So, whether you call it censorship or abridging, what the AMSAT BoD has >>> done is censorship ... > > Last time I looked, AMSAT was not an arm of the United States government. > > They are not censoring anyone. They are moderating and controlling their > messagegroups. This is a private party - NOT a government-run entity. > > People love screaming, "Censorship!!!' any time they perceive they've been > wronged. But read the rules of membership in this newsgroup. And you have > the choice to "open the door," enter, and be welcomed, or not be a member. > > I dare say there's no one here who has been involved in online legal > issues and telecommunications law than I have (1990). And what AMSAT is > doing doesn't infringe upon my rights in any manner. > > Background and history of your online rights and responsibilities is > available at ... http://www.eff.org > > Clint, K6LCS > > > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
It's not altogether surprising that this topic is being discussed but really folks, lets look at the facts! The whole issue revolves around just a few members/posters who continually try and push the boundaries on what is a large list with respected and influential members all over the World. We all know who they are; the ones that immediately post a facetious reply to a newbie question, the ones that post one line,or worse still, one word answers that are ambiguous at best and downright rude at worst; the ones that take childish delight in trying to elicit the maximum controversy with seemingly innocuous postings. We know who they are and they know who they are and the laws of defamation restrict me in naming them! There is a delete key on your keyboard; there are message filters built in to your e-mail client and if you really get offended then there is always the "un-subscribe" route. But if anyone on the list ever gets to having to be warned by AMSAT about their conduct on the BB or worse still, be faced with suspension/expulsion from the list then shame on you! For the most part we are all responsible adults involved in a fairly expensive hobby (note "hobby") that is both highly technical and to most people, quite complicated. If anyone feels that they can do a better job than anyone on the current Board then by all means file a motion of no confidence and see how many fully paid up members back you. Put up or shut up. That we have even had to come to an Acceptable Use Policy for this board should make certain members/posters question whether they should even be members. Rant over David KG4ZLB ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 Schedule Jan 17-24
I've often thought that it would make sense for us as a community to work toward the following: 1. Predictable mode changes based on simple parameters that extend forward in time. These would include 'every other week' (as below), or 'all even days', or 'when above 40 deg. N'. 2. Scripting 'hooks' for our tracking programs, whereby the mode of a satellite could be programmed by a scripting language such as Lua, Ruby, etc. Then, as as community we could write the scripts that automate the selection of modes based on #1 published by the satellite groups, and we'd have a slightly more automatic process: SatPC32 would, for instance, not automatically go to AO-27 when in auto mode unless it were in an operational mode. I recognize that this isn't going to work well with commissioning or with the testing mode that FO-29 is in right now, but it's worth a thought. 73, Bruce VE9QRP On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:22 AM, i8cvs wrote: > Hi Alan Kung, BA1DU > > Tank you very much for scheduling HO-68 only FM and Digital > Transponder for the full week from jan 17 to jan 24 > > Similarly for the next week from Jan 24 to Jan 31 we expect to > have only the Linear Transponder scheduled for the full week ! > > Tank you very much for your cooperation. > > 73" de > > i8CVS Domenico > > - Original Message - > From: "Alan Kung" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 5:56 AM > Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 Schedule Jan 17-24 > > >> 17 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 16:15...Turn On >> India,Middle East Asia, Europe, NA >> 17:00...Turn Off >> >> 17 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 23:25...Turn On >> South Africa,South America,Europe, >> NA,North Pole,North Asia >> 00:10...Turn Off >> >> 18 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 10:10...Turn On >> Australia,South Pole, New Zealand, East Asia, >> North Asia,Europe,North Pole,NA >> 10:55...Turn Off >> >> 18 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 12:20...Turn On >> Australia,South Asia,East Asia,North Asia >> 12:35...Turn Off >> >> 18 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 19:25...Turn On >> South Africa,Europe,NA,North Pole,North Asia >> 20:10...Turn Off >> >> 18 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 23:15...Turn On >> South America,NA,Europe,North Asia >> 24:00...Turn Off >> >> 19 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 11:40...Turn On >> South Pole, Australia,New Zealand,South Asia >> 11:56...Turn Off >> >> 19 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 13:51...Turn On >> Australia,South Asia,East Asia, North Asia >> 14:07...Turn Off >> >> 19 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 19:10...Turn On >> Africa,NA,North Asia >> 19:55...Turn Off >> >> 19 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 22:55...Turn On >> South America,North Africa,NA,North >> Pole,North Asia >> 23:40...Turn Off >> >> 20 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 11:25...Turn On >> South Pole,Australia, New Zealand,East Asia >> 11:48...Turn Off >> >> 20 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 13:34...Turn On >> Australia,South Asia,Est Asia, >> 13:50...Turn Off >> >> 20 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 15:55...Turn On >> East Africa,Middle East Asia,Europe,NA >> 16:20...Turn Off >> >> 20 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 17:10...Turn On >> Europe,NA,North Pole,North Asia,East Asia >> 17:55...Turn Off >> >> 21 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 11:05...Turn On >> South Pole,Australia, New Zealand >> 11:27...Turn Off >> >> 21 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 13:14...Turn On >> South Asia,East Asia,North Asia >> 13:29...Turn Off >> >> 21 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 18:45...Turn On >> South Africa,Europe,NA,North Pole,North Asia >> 19:30...Turn Off >> >> 22 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 00:10...Turn On >> South America,NA,North Pole, >> North Asia,East Asia >> 00:55...Turn Off >> >> 22 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 10:50...Turn On >> Oceania,South Asia,East Asia, >> North Asia,Europe,NA >> 11:35...Turn Off >> >> 22 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 13:30...Turn On >> Oceania,South Asia,Middle Asia, >> Europe,North Pole >> 14:15...Turn Off >> >> 22 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 16:40...Turn On >> Africa,Middle East Asia,Europe, >> NA,North Pole,North Asia >> 17:25...Turn Off >> >> 23 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 01:30...Turn On >> North Africa,Europe,North Pole,NA,North Asia, >> East Asia >> 02:15...Turn Off >> >> 23 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 02:23...Turn On >> North Asia, East Asia,South Asia,Oceania >> 02:39...Turn Off >> >> 23 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 03:20...Turn On >> South America,NA,North Asia,North Pole >> 03:09...Turn Off >> >> 23 Jan. 2010 >> HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder >> 23:35...Turn On >> South America,NA,Europe,North Pole, >> North Asia,East Asia >> 00:20..
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
>> So, whether you call it censorship or abridging, what the AMSAT BoD has >> done is censorship ... Last time I looked, AMSAT was not an arm of the United States government. They are not censoring anyone. They are moderating and controlling their messagegroups. This is a private party - NOT a government-run entity. People love screaming, "Censorship!!!' any time they perceive they've been wronged. But read the rules of membership in this newsgroup. And you have the choice to "open the door," enter, and be welcomed, or not be a member. I dare say there's no one here who has been involved in online legal issues and telecommunications law than I have (1990). And what AMSAT is doing doesn't infringe upon my rights in any manner. Background and history of your online rights and responsibilities is available at ... http://www.eff.org Clint, K6LCS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
I agree that if you don't like how things are being run: 1. leave, 2. vote out the BoD and vote in new, or 3. form your own organization. What I disagree with is the statement, "AMSAT is not 'censoring' anyone." Now, I'm no lawyer by any stretch, but I can read. Censoring is limiting speech based on what one finds objectionable. What is objectionable is completely subjective. "Abridging the freedom of speech" is how it is worded in the First Amendment. Abridging also means limiting. So, whether you call it censorship or abridging, what the AMSAT BoD has done is censorship. In the end, it's your $44. 73, Joel, W4JBB Clint Bradford wrote: >>> ... Censorship in any form without external control is unacceptable ... >>> > > AMSAT is not "censoring" anyone. In America, only the government is not > allowed to "censor" folks. You know, that First Amendment thingie: > > "Congress shall make no law respecting ... abridging the freedom of speech > ... " > > This messagegroup - and millions of others - is a private party. NOT > government-run nor sponsored. We're mere visitors entering and using it, and > we have to abide by its rules - else we go elsewhere. Like guests in your > home, there's an expected set of rules for behavior, and AMSAT just laid them > out in black and white. > > Similar to a Web site's "user service agreement" - a concept and device I've > been using for my sites' visitors for over twenty years. A properly-drafted > user service agreement spells out what I promise to you as the Web site > owner, and what I expect from you as a visitor. Kinda like shaking hands > before you peruse my sites. > > Clint Bradford, K6LCS > http://www.k6lcs.com > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 anyone
I double checked the predicted pass of FO-29 and found that F0-29 is above Northern Central Russia at 02:35Z. Footprint touching San Diego about 02:52Z and CONUS fully illuminated at 09:52Z. Is there something wrong with my SatPC32 prediction? I used current Keps. Please advise and thanks in advance! Peter NH6VB > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:40:09 -0700 > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > From: vlfis...@mcn.net > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 anyone > > At 11:56 AM 1/16/2010 -0800, Dave Guimont wrote: > >Any body within fo-29 shot of San Diego, CA?? > > > >I have a pass here beginning ~ 0235Z 17jan10 > > > >It is about 3 orbits after Mineo's predicted turn on time, but I'm > >going to give it a shot > > > >Leo, Art, Allen, > > > >I really deplore using this media to make a ham contact, as has been > >done to death here, but guess that's the way it is until ESA comes up > >with something... > > > >Hope everyone is sending them a few bucks now and then... > > > > > > > > > > > > 73, Dave, WB6LLO > > > Hi Dave, > > If I get home from work in time, I'll work you. :) I always listen for you > on the linear transponders, but we must be on at odd times. I think the > last time we worked was in a round table on AO-40. Be neat to hear you again. > > 73, KB7ADL > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
Right on Clint. Bad behavior used to get you a spanking as a kid. Since things have changed now, some (now) grown ups have missed out on etiquette. Peter NH6VB > From: clintbra...@earthlink.net > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:15:59 -0800 > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship > > >> ... Censorship in any form without external control is unacceptable ... > > AMSAT is not "censoring" anyone. In America, only the government is not > allowed to "censor" folks. You know, that First Amendment thingie: > > "Congress shall make no law respecting ... abridging the freedom of speech > ... " > > This messagegroup - and millions of others - is a private party. NOT > government-run nor sponsored. We're mere visitors entering and using it, and > we have to abide by its rules - else we go elsewhere. Like guests in your > home, there's an expected set of rules for behavior, and AMSAT just laid them > out in black and white. > > Similar to a Web site's "user service agreement" - a concept and device I've > been using for my sites' visitors for over twenty years. A properly-drafted > user service agreement spells out what I promise to you as the Web site > owner, and what I expect from you as a visitor. Kinda like shaking hands > before you peruse my sites. > > Clint Bradford, K6LCS > http://www.k6lcs.com > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 anyone
At 11:56 AM 1/16/2010 -0800, Dave Guimont wrote: >Any body within fo-29 shot of San Diego, CA?? > >I have a pass here beginning ~ 0235Z 17jan10 > >It is about 3 orbits after Mineo's predicted turn on time, but I'm >going to give it a shot > >Leo, Art, Allen, > >I really deplore using this media to make a ham contact, as has been >done to death here, but guess that's the way it is until ESA comes up >with something... > >Hope everyone is sending them a few bucks now and then... > > > > > > 73, Dave, WB6LLO Hi Dave, If I get home from work in time, I'll work you. :) I always listen for you on the linear transponders, but we must be on at odd times. I think the last time we worked was in a round table on AO-40. Be neat to hear you again. 73, KB7ADL ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] WG: No downlink only carrier !! hope-1 last pass over africa!
Hi Nader, ... confirm that. At 20:34 UTC over Europe – FM transponder should be active – but we heard only a strong carrier The following telemetry was heard during the pass: BJ1SA XW XW TTT TAT AU6 TTT ETT U4D TT4 BET EBT TTT TTT VE6 ETT XW XW BJ1SA XW XW TTT TAT AU6 TTT ETT UET TT4 BET EBT TTT TTT VE6 ETT XW XW BJ1SA XW XW TTT TAT AUB TTT ETT UET TT4 BET EBT TTT TTT VE6 ETT XW XW BJ1SA XW XW TTT TAT AUB TTT ETT UET TT4 BET EBT TTT TTT VE6 ETT XW XW BJ1SA XW XW TTT TAT AUB TTT ETT U4D TT4 BET EBT TTT TTT VE6 ETT XW XW PA Output RF Switch Status: PA1 Works (Transponder and Beacon) Transponder Working Status: Beacon and FM Transponder Transponder Temperature : 26 C Beacon RF Output Power: 0 mW Beacon Power Supply Volts : 5 V Receiver Power Supply Curr: 248 mA Linear Transponder ACG Volts : 0.04 V Transponder RF Output Power : 2250 mW Transponder PA Curr : 570 mA Linear Transponder Up Conv: 0 mA Linear Transponder Volts : 0 V FM Dig S/F Transponder Curr : 356 mA FM Dig S/F Transponder Volts : 5 V 73, Mike DK3WN -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Nader Omer Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Januar 2010 21:42 An: amsat bb bb Betreff: [amsat-bb] No downlink only carrier !! hope-1 last pass over africa! Completely strong carrier on 435.675 mhz, No fm downlink or packet througth all the pass!! orbit #417 time 2015 -2038 loc kk65gp beacon cw was in 2 different tones? x ponder is off schedule info 15 Jan. 2010 HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder 20:15…Turn On South Africa,Middle East Asia,Europe,NA,North Pole, North As 21:00…Turn Off 73 de nader ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] FT3000m on FM sats
Has anyone on the list used a Yaesu FT3000M on the Mode J FM sats? Does it have pretty good receive sensitivity for the birds? Can it do full duplex, where you can hear your own downlink? What I have seen written about it seems to indicate that it can. Any other comments-good or bad-about this model? 73s John AA5JG ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] problem with ho68? tx carrier only
yes like wise over europe 20.20 no trafic just tx carrier of ho68 very strong on its down link frq.all pass, de paul 2E1EUB ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: No downlink only carrier !! hope-1 last pass over africa!
The same over IN70jv, snip, Regards from Spain, Fran EA1JM -Mensaje original- De: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] En nombre de Nader Omer Enviado el: viernes, 15 de enero de 2010 21:42 Para: amsat bb bb Asunto: [amsat-bb] No downlink only carrier !! hope-1 last pass over africa! Completely strong carrier on 435.675 mhz, No fm downlink or packet througth all the pass!! orbit #417 time 2015 -2038 loc kk65gp beacon cw was in 2 different tones? x ponder is off schedule info 15 Jan. 2010 HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder 20:15…Turn On South Africa,Middle East Asia,Europe,NA,North Pole, North As 21:00…Turn Off 73 de nader ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
>> ... but the "guidelines" are so broad as to be meaningless ... I see the guidelines as a verbose version of: Be a responsible citizen of the planet. Clint ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
Clint. I dont agree with much of that. I agree that the 1st amendment only applies to government at all levels (through the 14th)...but moderating the discussion to delete such things as "death threats" or whatever is far different then moderating it to put a particular group or sub group in a better light. I dont see any evidence of that yet, but the "guidelines" are so broad as to be meaningless. This is what I really disagree with. > > This messagegroup - and millions of others - is a private party. NOT > government-run nor sponsored. We're mere visitors entering and using it, and > we have to abide by its rules - else we go elsewhere. Like guests in your > home, there's an expected set of rules for behavior, and AMSAT just laid them > out in black and white. > > Clint Bradford, K6LCS > http://www.k6lcs.com not really. AMSAT is a private group, but a group of members. If you are a member of AMSAT in my view short of threatening death or shouting fire when there is no fire...you pretty much get to lay ones two cents on the line. The AMSAT BOD is more or less acting, in my view, like our politicians in Washington ie once they are elected they are to busy to listen to the people who make up the group. Robert WB5MZO Life member _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] No downlink only carrier !! hope-1 last pass over africa!
Completely strong carrier on 435.675 mhz, No fm downlink or packet througth all the pass!! orbit #417 time 2015 -2038 loc kk65gp beacon cw was in 2 different tones? x ponder is off schedule info 15 Jan. 2010 HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder 20:15…Turn On South Africa,Middle East Asia,Europe,NA,North Pole, North As 21:00…Turn Off 73 de nader ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists
This is almost farcical. Unable to launch effective satellites and more or less flailing as an organization the board has now turned to a acceptable use policy which is so broad as to be useless...it boils down to "things we like are good and things we dont like are bad". entertaining Robert WB5MZO (All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.) I will add "Life member" > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:41 -0500 > From: rwmcgw...@gmail.com > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists > > This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will > entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure. > > > 73's > Bob > N4HY > _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship
>> ... Censorship in any form without external control is unacceptable ... AMSAT is not "censoring" anyone. In America, only the government is not allowed to "censor" folks. You know, that First Amendment thingie: "Congress shall make no law respecting ... abridging the freedom of speech ... " This messagegroup - and millions of others - is a private party. NOT government-run nor sponsored. We're mere visitors entering and using it, and we have to abide by its rules - else we go elsewhere. Like guests in your home, there's an expected set of rules for behavior, and AMSAT just laid them out in black and white. Similar to a Web site's "user service agreement" - a concept and device I've been using for my sites' visitors for over twenty years. A properly-drafted user service agreement spells out what I promise to you as the Web site owner, and what I expect from you as a visitor. Kinda like shaking hands before you peruse my sites. Clint Bradford, K6LCS http://www.k6lcs.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] FO-29 anyone
Any body within fo-29 shot of San Diego, CA?? I have a pass here beginning ~ 0235Z 17jan10 It is about 3 orbits after Mineo's predicted turn on time, but I'm going to give it a shot Leo, Art, Allen, I really deplore using this media to make a ham contact, as has been done to death here, but guess that's the way it is until ESA comes up with something... Hope everyone is sending them a few bucks now and then... 73, Dave, WB6LLO dguim...@san.rr.com Disagree: I learn Pulling for P3E... ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: IC-910
I was referring to Icom's hands not Amsat's. On 15-Jan-10 13:08, Ed Long wrote: > > Nigel, > > We have not yet received a new advertisement from Icom for the back cover. > Once we do we'll change the back cover immediately. There is no other meaning > than that. > > 73, > > Ed > > Long > WA4SWJ > Editor, The AMSAT Journal > > > > >> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:22:11 + >> From: ni...@ngunn.net >> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-910 >> >> >> Seems strange that Icom are still advertising this radio in the current >> Amsat Journal yet their web site says it's >> discontinued. >> >> I guess one hand etc. >> ___ >> Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.141/2622 - Release Date: 01/14/10 > 19:35:00 > -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: IC-910
Nigel, We have not yet received a new advertisement from Icom for the back cover. Once we do we'll change the back cover immediately. There is no other meaning than that. 73, Ed Long WA4SWJ Editor, The AMSAT Journal > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:22:11 + > From: ni...@ngunn.net > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-910 > > > Seems strange that Icom are still advertising this radio in the current Amsat > Journal yet their web site says it's > discontinued. > > I guess one hand etc. > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 Schedule Jan 17-24
Hi Alan Kung, BA1DU Tank you very much for scheduling HO-68 only FM and Digital Transponder for the full week from jan 17 to jan 24 Similarly for the next week from Jan 24 to Jan 31 we expect to have only the Linear Transponder scheduled for the full week ! Tank you very much for your cooperation. 73" de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: "Alan Kung" To: Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 5:56 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 Schedule Jan 17-24 > 17 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 16:15...Turn On > India,Middle East Asia, Europe, NA > 17:00...Turn Off > > 17 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 23:25...Turn On > South Africa,South America,Europe, > NA,North Pole,North Asia > 00:10...Turn Off > > 18 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 10:10...Turn On > Australia,South Pole, New Zealand, East Asia, > North Asia,Europe,North Pole,NA > 10:55...Turn Off > > 18 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 12:20...Turn On > Australia,South Asia,East Asia,North Asia > 12:35...Turn Off > > 18 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 19:25...Turn On > South Africa,Europe,NA,North Pole,North Asia > 20:10...Turn Off > > 18 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 23:15...Turn On > South America,NA,Europe,North Asia > 24:00...Turn Off > > 19 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 11:40...Turn On > South Pole, Australia,New Zealand,South Asia > 11:56...Turn Off > > 19 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 13:51...Turn On > Australia,South Asia,East Asia, North Asia > 14:07...Turn Off > > 19 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 19:10...Turn On > Africa,NA,North Asia > 19:55...Turn Off > > 19 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 22:55...Turn On > South America,North Africa,NA,North > Pole,North Asia > 23:40...Turn Off > > 20 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 11:25...Turn On > South Pole,Australia, New Zealand,East Asia > 11:48...Turn Off > > 20 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 13:34...Turn On > Australia,South Asia,Est Asia, > 13:50...Turn Off > > 20 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 15:55...Turn On > East Africa,Middle East Asia,Europe,NA > 16:20...Turn Off > > 20 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 17:10...Turn On > Europe,NA,North Pole,North Asia,East Asia > 17:55...Turn Off > > 21 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 11:05...Turn On > South Pole,Australia, New Zealand > 11:27...Turn Off > > 21 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 13:14...Turn On > South Asia,East Asia,North Asia > 13:29...Turn Off > > 21 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 18:45...Turn On > South Africa,Europe,NA,North Pole,North Asia > 19:30...Turn Off > > 22 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 00:10...Turn On > South America,NA,North Pole, > North Asia,East Asia > 00:55...Turn Off > > 22 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 10:50...Turn On > Oceania,South Asia,East Asia, > North Asia,Europe,NA > 11:35...Turn Off > > 22 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 13:30...Turn On > Oceania,South Asia,Middle Asia, > Europe,North Pole > 14:15...Turn Off > > 22 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 16:40...Turn On > Africa,Middle East Asia,Europe, > NA,North Pole,North Asia > 17:25...Turn Off > > 23 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 01:30...Turn On > North Africa,Europe,North Pole,NA,North Asia, > East Asia > 02:15...Turn Off > > 23 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 02:23...Turn On > North Asia, East Asia,South Asia,Oceania > 02:39...Turn Off > > 23 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 03:20...Turn On > South America,NA,North Asia,North Pole > 03:09...Turn Off > > 23 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 23:35...Turn On > South America,NA,Europe,North Pole, > North Asia,East Asia > 00:20...Turn Off > > 24 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 00:30...Turn On > South Asia,Australia,New Zealand > 00:50...Turn Off > > 24 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 01:10...Turn On > South America,NA,North Asia,North Pole > 01:55...Turn Off > > 24 Jan. 2010 > HO-68 FM and Digital Transponder > 03:51...Turn On > North Asia,East Asia,South Asia > 04:06...Turn Off > > 73 > Alan Kung, BA1DU > HO-68(XW-1) Project Manager > www.camsat.cn > > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 schedule Jan, Feb.
I think so Drew KO4MA says like that. And I think the transponder turn on for a while after having passed over Japan. But I don't understand till when the state continues. Please do the reasonable uplink power. JE9PEL Mineo Wakita ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
