[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread Greg D.

Yeah, sorry about that.  My fingers didn't read carefully enough before 
springing into action.

So, Nick, any luck?

Greg  KO6TH


From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
To: ko6th_g...@hotmail.com; inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:06:28 -0500









Hi Greg,
 
I think you have me confused with Kirk, N0KK, the op experiencing the SSTV 
issues.  I do agree, however, that your signal must have no static if you 
want to get a clear picture.  S5-S7 sometimes doesn’t even cut it.  I 
used the Arrow (no preamp), and I was able to get it to S7-S9 as long as I 
wasn’t in the trees.  I posted some of my pics on my blog: 
http://kd8ksn.blogspot.com/2011/12/september-2011-in-effort-to-reduce.html
 
Zack
KD8KSN


 

From: Greg D. 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:14 PM
To: inservice2...@hotmail.com ; zack.kd8...@hotmail.com ; amsat-bb@amsat.org 

Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
 

Hi Zack,

It sounds like you don't have a clear enough signal 
from the satellite.  For a good picture, you will need to have 
full-quieting FM reception.  How did the voice announcements sound, prior 
to the SSTV session?

On good pass earlier today, I copied this 
picture:  http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/SSTV/uploads/6443.jpg  It 
was nearly S9 on the meter.  Just now there was a really low pass (maybe 5 
degrees), and at most an S2 with the preamp turned on.  The audio was good 
enough to copy most of what was being said, and MMSSTV was able to trigger on 
the SSTV image, but all I got for a picture was a rectangle of multi-colored 
snow.  Same setup as the with the earlier picture.

You will have to 
adjust the receive frequency a bit to account for the Doppler shift on most 
passes.  That's just life with Satellites.

Greg  
KO6TH




> From: inservice2...@hotmail.com
> 
To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 
16:59:02 -0600
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 

> 
> On the latest pass, only about 17 degrees I had some success 
with a photo.
> 
> It is in no way a clear photo but I can see call 
letters in the upper left hand side of the print. The rest of the pix seems to 
be that of a half globe or something like that...lots of "noise" present in 
photo.
> 
> To accomplish this result I had to use the "rit" to 
adjust.
> 
> Thanks for the help. I like to audio recorder idea. 
Tnx!
> 
> N0KK
> 
> > From: 
zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> > To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; 
amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:57:31 -0500
> 
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > 
> > I 
had a similar issue when I first started downloading SSTV, and if I recall 
correctly I believe it was because I had the input audio set way too high (I 
cranked it down to just about no audio to get a clear pic). If you have 
downloaded pictures before from HF and have had success at your preset audio 
levels, then I doubt that is the issue.
> > 
> > Zack
> 
> KD8KSN
> > 
> > From: kp hpjr 
> > Sent: Friday, 
December 30, 2011 2:41 PM
> > To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com ; 
amsat-bb@amsat.org 
> > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and 
ARRISat-1
> > 
> > Zack and others.
> > 
> > 
Yes, audio feed is direct as with all digi modes I operate.
> > 

> > Just had a pass of ARRISat-1 of 45 degrees plus over head. The 
downlink into my M2 5 element yagi @ 35 degrees elevation was S-9 plus 10db. A 
very good (great) signal. 
> > 
> > 2 times during the pass 
the SSTV was transmitted. During neither of them did the program initialize and 
copy anything. Partway through the 2nd transmission I forced it into RX 
Robot-36. All that occured was for it to stop after about 5 seconds. Again 
nothing decodedfrustrating to say the least. I'd like to get 1 
photo...HI.
> > 
> > Using the exact same setting I have had 
several QSO's now on HF sending and receiving very clear photos.
> > 

> > Not sure what else to try.
> > 
> > N0KK, 
Kirk
> > 
> > 
> > > From: 
zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> > > To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; 
amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:48:57 
-0500
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> > 
> > > Hi Kirk,
> > > 
> > > Like 
Greg said, ARRISat-1 is Robot 36. I also found that I received the 
> > 
> clearest pictures when I ran the audio directly into the pc versus letting 

> > > it pickup the audio from a speaker. I imagine you are 
probably already 
> > > doing this.
> > > 
> > 
> 73!
> > > 
> > > Zack
> > > 
KD8KSN
> > > 
> > > -Original Message- 
> 
> > From: kp hpjr
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 
4:35 PM
> > > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > > Subject: 
[amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> > GA,
> > > All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me 
thinking I'd like to try!
> > > I downloaded MMSSTV and 
installed.
> > > What are the best settings to use in the setup page 
for decent copy of 
> > > photos from ARRISAT-1?
> > > I 
did copy pix o

[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread Zachary Beougher
Hi Greg,

I think you have me confused with Kirk, N0KK, the op experiencing the SSTV 
issues.  I do agree, however, that your signal must have no static if you want 
to get a clear picture.  S5-S7 sometimes doesn’t even cut it.  I used the Arrow 
(no preamp), and I was able to get it to S7-S9 as long as I wasn’t in the 
trees.  I posted some of my pics on my blog: 
http://kd8ksn.blogspot.com/2011/12/september-2011-in-effort-to-reduce.html

Zack
KD8KSN

From: Greg D. 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:14 PM
To: inservice2...@hotmail.com ; zack.kd8...@hotmail.com ; amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

Hi Zack,

It sounds like you don't have a clear enough signal from the satellite.  For a 
good picture, you will need to have full-quieting FM reception.  How did the 
voice announcements sound, prior to the SSTV session?

On good pass earlier today, I copied this picture:  
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/SSTV/uploads/6443.jpg  It was nearly S9 on the 
meter.  Just now there was a really low pass (maybe 5 degrees), and at most an 
S2 with the preamp turned on.  The audio was good enough to copy most of what 
was being said, and MMSSTV was able to trigger on the SSTV image, but all I got 
for a picture was a rectangle of multi-colored snow.  Same setup as the with 
the earlier picture.

You will have to adjust the receive frequency a bit to account for the Doppler 
shift on most passes.  That's just life with Satellites.

Greg  KO6TH



> From: inservice2...@hotmail.com
> To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:59:02 -0600
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> 
> On the latest pass, only about 17 degrees I had some success with a photo.
> 
> It is in no way a clear photo but I can see call letters in the upper left 
> hand side of the print. The rest of the pix seems to be that of a half globe 
> or something like that...lots of "noise" present in photo.
> 
> To accomplish this result I had to use the "rit" to adjust.
> 
> Thanks for the help. I like to audio recorder idea. Tnx!
> 
> N0KK
> 
> > From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> > To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:57:31 -0500
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > 
> > I had a similar issue when I first started downloading SSTV, and if I 
> > recall correctly I believe it was because I had the input audio set way too 
> > high (I cranked it down to just about no audio to get a clear pic). If you 
> > have downloaded pictures before from HF and have had success at your preset 
> > audio levels, then I doubt that is the issue.
> > 
> > Zack
> > KD8KSN
> > 
> > From: kp hpjr 
> > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:41 PM
> > To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com ; amsat-bb@amsat.org 
> > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > 
> > Zack and others.
> > 
> > Yes, audio feed is direct as with all digi modes I operate.
> > 
> > Just had a pass of ARRISat-1 of 45 degrees plus over head. The downlink 
> > into my M2 5 element yagi @ 35 degrees elevation was S-9 plus 10db. A very 
> > good (great) signal. 
> > 
> > 2 times during the pass the SSTV was transmitted. During neither of them 
> > did the program initialize and copy anything. Partway through the 2nd 
> > transmission I forced it into RX Robot-36. All that occured was for it to 
> > stop after about 5 seconds. Again nothing decodedfrustrating to say the 
> > least. I'd like to get 1 photo...HI.
> > 
> > Using the exact same setting I have had several QSO's now on HF sending and 
> > receiving very clear photos.
> > 
> > Not sure what else to try.
> > 
> > N0KK, Kirk
> > 
> > 
> > > From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> > > To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:48:57 -0500
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > > 
> > > Hi Kirk,
> > > 
> > > Like Greg said, ARRISat-1 is Robot 36. I also found that I received the 
> > > clearest pictures when I ran the audio directly into the pc versus 
> > > letting 
> > > it pickup the audio from a speaker. I imagine you are probably already 
> > > doing this.
> > > 
> > > 73!
> > > 
> > > Zack
> > > KD8KSN
> > > 
> > > -Original Message- 
> > > From: kp hpjr
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:35 PM
> > > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > > 
> > > 
> > > GA,
> > > All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd like to try!
> > > I downloaded MMSSTV and installed.
> > > What are the best settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of 
> > > photos from ARRISAT-1?
> > > I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last pass of 
> > > ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures decoded.
> > > So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
> > > Any help appreciated.
> > > Kirk, N0KK
> > > 
> > > ___
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions e

[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread Greg D.

Hi Zack,

It sounds like you don't have a clear enough signal from the satellite.  For a 
good picture, you will need to have  full-quieting FM reception.  How did the 
voice announcements sound, prior to the SSTV session?

On good pass earlier today, I copied this picture:  
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/SSTV/uploads/6443.jpg  It was nearly S9 on the 
meter.  Just now there was a really low pass (maybe 5 degrees), and at most an 
S2 with the preamp turned on.  The audio was good enough to copy most of what 
was being said, and MMSSTV was able to trigger on the SSTV image, but all I got 
for a picture was a rectangle of multi-colored snow.  Same setup as the with 
the earlier picture.

You will have to adjust the receive frequency a bit to account for the Doppler 
shift on most passes.  That's just life with Satellites.

Greg  KO6TH


> From: inservice2...@hotmail.com
> To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:59:02 -0600
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> 
> On the latest pass, only about 17 degrees I had some success with a photo.
> 
> It is in no way a clear photo but I can see call letters in the upper left 
> hand side of the print. The rest of the pix seems to be that of a half globe 
> or something like that...lots of "noise" present in photo.
> 
> To accomplish this result I had to use the "rit" to adjust.
> 
> Thanks for the help. I like to audio recorder idea. Tnx!
> 
> N0KK
> 
> > From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> > To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:57:31 -0500
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > 
> > I had a similar issue when I first started downloading SSTV, and if I 
> > recall correctly I believe it was because I had the input audio set way too 
> > high (I cranked it down to just about no audio to get a clear pic).  If you 
> > have downloaded pictures before from HF and have had success at your preset 
> > audio levels, then I doubt that is the issue.
> > 
> > Zack
> > KD8KSN
> > 
> > From: kp hpjr 
> > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:41 PM
> > To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com ; amsat-bb@amsat.org 
> > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > 
> > Zack and others.
> > 
> > Yes, audio feed is direct as with all digi modes I operate.
> > 
> > Just had a pass of ARRISat-1 of 45 degrees plus over head. The downlink 
> > into my M2 5 element yagi @ 35 degrees elevation was S-9 plus 10db. A very 
> > good  (great) signal. 
> > 
> > 2 times during the pass the SSTV was transmitted. During neither of them 
> > did the program initialize and copy anything. Partway through the 2nd 
> > transmission I forced it into RX Robot-36. All that occured was for it to 
> > stop after about 5 seconds. Again nothing decodedfrustrating to say the 
> > least. I'd like to get 1 photo...HI.
> > 
> > Using the exact same setting I have had several QSO's now on HF sending and 
> > receiving very clear photos.
> > 
> > Not sure what else to try.
> > 
> > N0KK, Kirk
> > 
> > 
> > > From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> > > To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:48:57 -0500
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > > 
> > > Hi Kirk,
> > > 
> > > Like Greg said, ARRISat-1 is Robot 36. I also found that I received the 
> > > clearest pictures when I ran the audio directly into the pc versus 
> > > letting 
> > > it pickup the audio from a speaker. I imagine you are probably already 
> > > doing this.
> > > 
> > > 73!
> > > 
> > > Zack
> > > KD8KSN
> > > 
> > > -Original Message- 
> > > From: kp hpjr
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:35 PM
> > > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > > 
> > > 
> > > GA,
> > > All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd like to try!
> > > I downloaded MMSSTV and installed.
> > > What are the best settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of 
> > > photos from ARRISAT-1?
> > > I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last pass of 
> > > ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures decoded.
> > > So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
> > > Any help appreciated.
> > > Kirk, N0KK
> > > 
> > > ___
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[amsat-bb] Hackers to build geostationary satellite network.

2011-12-30 Thread Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16367042

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[amsat-bb] Re: BBC - Hackers plan space satellites

2011-12-30 Thread George and Cheryl Abbott
It is quite apparent that the news media and the internet are being 
controlled and managed by the world government.CNN has become a big 
joke!What ever happened to Storyfull Real Time?Were they spreading around 
too much truth?
-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Moore

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:17 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BBC - Hackers plan space satellites

Other than a few amateur radio satellites that have piggy-backed into space
on commercial or government launches, what amateur satellites have been put
into "orbit"?

Should the hackers manage to actually get one or more satellites into space,
I suspect that they will make great targets for anti-satellite weapons.
Oops, sorry that we just destroyed Comstar-9, we were aiming for Hacker-3
:-)

There aren't any amateur efforts that I am aware of that are capable of an
orbital launch as far as rocket technology goes.  I'm involved in a
multi-year effort to get a sugar propellant based rocket into space.  Orbit
is not currently possible for amateur rocketry efforts so unless they can
weasel their way onto a commercial launch it ain't happening.

See:   http://www.sugarshot.org/
73,
Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
Tripoli Rocketry Assoc.  http://www.tripoli.org/

- Original Message - From: "Trevor ." 

BBC News story at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16367042

Chaos Communication Congress Dec. 27-30
http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/Fahrplan/events/4699.en.html

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread kp hpjr

On the latest pass, only about 17 degrees I had some success with a photo.

It is in no way a clear photo but I can see call letters in the upper left hand 
side of the print. The rest of the pix seems to be that of a half globe or 
something like that...lots of "noise" present in photo.

To accomplish this result I had to use the "rit" to adjust.

Thanks for the help. I like to audio recorder idea. Tnx!

N0KK

> From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:57:31 -0500
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> I had a similar issue when I first started downloading SSTV, and if I recall 
> correctly I believe it was because I had the input audio set way too high (I 
> cranked it down to just about no audio to get a clear pic).  If you have 
> downloaded pictures before from HF and have had success at your preset audio 
> levels, then I doubt that is the issue.
> 
> Zack
> KD8KSN
> 
> From: kp hpjr 
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:41 PM
> To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com ; amsat-bb@amsat.org 
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> Zack and others.
> 
> Yes, audio feed is direct as with all digi modes I operate.
> 
> Just had a pass of ARRISat-1 of 45 degrees plus over head. The downlink into 
> my M2 5 element yagi @ 35 degrees elevation was S-9 plus 10db. A very good  
> (great) signal. 
> 
> 2 times during the pass the SSTV was transmitted. During neither of them did 
> the program initialize and copy anything. Partway through the 2nd 
> transmission I forced it into RX Robot-36. All that occured was for it to 
> stop after about 5 seconds. Again nothing decodedfrustrating to say the 
> least. I'd like to get 1 photo...HI.
> 
> Using the exact same setting I have had several QSO's now on HF sending and 
> receiving very clear photos.
> 
> Not sure what else to try.
> 
> N0KK, Kirk
> 
> 
> > From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> > To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:48:57 -0500
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > 
> > Hi Kirk,
> > 
> > Like Greg said, ARRISat-1 is Robot 36. I also found that I received the 
> > clearest pictures when I ran the audio directly into the pc versus letting 
> > it pickup the audio from a speaker. I imagine you are probably already 
> > doing this.
> > 
> > 73!
> > 
> > Zack
> > KD8KSN
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: kp hpjr
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:35 PM
> > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> > 
> > 
> > GA,
> > All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd like to try!
> > I downloaded MMSSTV and installed.
> > What are the best settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of 
> > photos from ARRISAT-1?
> > I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last pass of 
> > ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures decoded.
> > So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
> > Any help appreciated.
> > Kirk, N0KK
> > 
> > ___
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[amsat-bb] Chicken Little Contest Update

2011-12-30 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Now that ARISSat-1 is in its last days, the Chicken Little Contest web site
has been updated to include the individual submissions in each category
nearest its likely reentry time.

  www.amsat.org/amsat-new/ARISSat/ARISSatContest 

You can see how you are doing compared to the competition!  It appears that
the submissions are sufficiently spread out that we will be able to
determine unique winners in each category.  However, you can help with this
by keeping the telemetry submissions coming.  Space Command does not
maintain precise Tracking and Impact Prediction (TIP) for minor spacecraft.
A small satellite is considered to have reentered when three consecutive
tracking stations fail to acquire it, which leaves a considerable window.
While the formal last telemetry contest is only open to submission through
the telemetry programs, keep listening and note the time and place where you
hear it last.  After it has been confirmed to have reentered, the last
reception including voice and CW, may help narrow that window unless
transmissions cease significantly before reentry.

Alan
WA4SCA


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[amsat-bb] ARRISSat-1 telm - sensor failure?

2011-12-30 Thread Ken Swaggart
During the 2229Z pass today, max el 17 deg, the -Z PPT 6 panel temp was 
"-1". Wondering if this is a sensor failure from high temperature? Last pass 
it was 88 C.


The highest panel temp was +Z PPT 3 at 68 C.  RF temp was 65 C compared to 
last pass when it was 57 C.


73,
Ken, W7KKE
CN75xa


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[amsat-bb] Re: BBC - Hackers plan space satellites

2011-12-30 Thread Jeff Moore
Other than a few amateur radio satellites that have piggy-backed into space 
on commercial or government launches, what amateur satellites have been put 
into "orbit"?

Should the hackers manage to actually get one or more satellites into space, 
I suspect that they will make great targets for anti-satellite weapons. 
Oops, sorry that we just destroyed Comstar-9, we were aiming for Hacker-3 
:-)

There aren't any amateur efforts that I am aware of that are capable of an 
orbital launch as far as rocket technology goes.  I'm involved in a 
multi-year effort to get a sugar propellant based rocket into space.  Orbit 
is not currently possible for amateur rocketry efforts so unless they can 
weasel their way onto a commercial launch it ain't happening.

See:   http://www.sugarshot.org/
73,
Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
Tripoli Rocketry Assoc.  http://www.tripoli.org/

- Original Message - From: "Trevor ." 

BBC News story at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16367042

Chaos Communication Congress Dec. 27-30
http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/Fahrplan/events/4699.en.html

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] ARRISSat-1 telemetry - getting warmer

2011-12-30 Thread Ken Swaggart
At 2055Z today had a 77 deg pass. Highest temp was the -Z PPT 6 panel temp 
at 88 C. Yesteday it was temp was 74 C.  RF temp was 57 C which is one 
degree cooler than observed yesterday.


Keps were only 0.7 days old, but still had to manually chase the signal when 
it was near predicted TCA.


73,
Ken, W7KKE
CN75xa



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[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread Burns Fisher
I've had good luck with MMSSTV using a Fun Cube Dongle, SDR-Radio and then
Virtual Audio Cable to get the audio from SDR-Radio to MMSSTV (all on the
same PC).  Today I threw in a 4KHz filter from SDR_Radio and that seems to
improve the S/N ratio.  There was a lot of noise removed by that filter.

BTW, I picked up Farrell's license plate quite cleanly around 1800z
although I did not get the start clearly enough to lock onto, so the
picture has the top cut off.

I also noticed some idle in both the telemetry and the FM.   A few times I
seemed to be getting strong telemetry but got only Kursk frames, or 5 Kursk
and 1 satellite.  Another time, there was no FM audio for 10 or 15 seconds
although there was a carrier.  Oddly the telemetry continued, but the CW
over on the edge of the telemetry band stopped.  I'm not sure I get that,
although looking at the code on the satellite might show something.  At one
point I certainly saw the little guy in low power mode, but the dropouts I
mention above are not that.  The transmitter was still on

Burns, W2BFJ


> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:57:31 -0500
> From: "Zachary Beougher" 
> To: "kp hpjr" , 
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I had a similar issue when I first started downloading SSTV, and if I
> recall correctly I believe it was because I had the input audio set way too
> high (I cranked it down to just about no audio to get a clear pic).  If you
> have downloaded pictures before from HF and have had success at your preset
> audio levels, then I doubt that is the issue.
>
> Zack
> KD8KSN
>
> From: kp hpjr
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:41 PM
> To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com ; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
>
> Zack and others.
>
> Yes, audio feed is direct as with all digi modes I operate.
>
> Just had a pass of ARRISat-1 of 45 degrees plus over head. The downlink
> into my M2 5 element yagi @ 35 degrees elevation was S-9 plus 10db. A very
> good  (great) signal.
>
> 2 times during the pass the SSTV was transmitted. During neither of them
> did the program initialize and copy anything. Partway through the 2nd
> transmission I forced it into RX Robot-36. All that occured was for it to
> stop after about 5 seconds. Again nothing decodedfrustrating to say the
> least. I'd like to get 1 photo...HI.
>
> Using the exact same setting I have had several QSO's now on HF sending
> and receiving very clear photos.
>
> Not sure what else to try.
>
> N0KK, Kirk
>
>
> > From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> > To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:48:57 -0500
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> >
> > Hi Kirk,
> >
> > Like Greg said, ARRISat-1 is Robot 36. I also found that I received the
> > clearest pictures when I ran the audio directly into the pc versus
> letting
> > it pickup the audio from a speaker. I imagine you are probably already
> > doing this.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Zack
> > KD8KSN
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: kp hpjr
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:35 PM
> > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> >
> >
> > GA,
> > All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd like to try!
> > I downloaded MMSSTV and installed.
> > What are the best settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of
> > photos from ARRISAT-1?
> > I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last pass of
> > ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures decoded.
> > So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
> > Any help appreciated.
> > Kirk, N0KK
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[amsat-bb] Fwd: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread rogerkola




If you record the signal first with something like Scanner Recorder (freeware), 
you can adjust levels or try to "clean" the signal between passes...

Plus, you can leave it on during those passes you aren't there for and play it 
back when you get time.

Roger
WA1KAT

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: kp hpjr 
To: amsat-bb 
Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2011 1:21 pm
Subject: [amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1



GA,
All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd like to try!
I downloaded MMSSTV and installed. 
What are the best settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of photos 
from ARRISAT-1?
I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last pass of 
ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures decoded.
So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
Any help appreciated.


 
 
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[amsat-bb] BBC - Hackers plan space satellites

2011-12-30 Thread Trevor .
BBC News story at 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16367042 

Chaos Communication Congress Dec. 27-30
http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/Fahrplan/events/4699.en.html 

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] HamSatDroid

2011-12-30 Thread Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF

My biggest requests would be

a) Get it onto the Barnes & Noble Nook marketplace.
b) Allow other filename/locations for the keps file.

On 30/12/11 19:56, amsat-bb-requ...@amsat.org wrote:

Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HamSatDroid New Feature Discussion
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Some of the requested features "scare" me on your behalf, Dave (grin).

? Doppler correction information (1)
? Footprints (2)
? Satellite information including frequencies, modes (5)


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[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread Zachary Beougher
I had a similar issue when I first started downloading SSTV, and if I recall 
correctly I believe it was because I had the input audio set way too high (I 
cranked it down to just about no audio to get a clear pic).  If you have 
downloaded pictures before from HF and have had success at your preset audio 
levels, then I doubt that is the issue.

Zack
KD8KSN

From: kp hpjr 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:41 PM
To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com ; amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

Zack and others.

Yes, audio feed is direct as with all digi modes I operate.

Just had a pass of ARRISat-1 of 45 degrees plus over head. The downlink into my 
M2 5 element yagi @ 35 degrees elevation was S-9 plus 10db. A very good  
(great) signal. 

2 times during the pass the SSTV was transmitted. During neither of them did 
the program initialize and copy anything. Partway through the 2nd transmission 
I forced it into RX Robot-36. All that occured was for it to stop after about 5 
seconds. Again nothing decodedfrustrating to say the least. I'd like to get 
1 photo...HI.

Using the exact same setting I have had several QSO's now on HF sending and 
receiving very clear photos.

Not sure what else to try.

N0KK, Kirk


> From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:48:57 -0500
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> Hi Kirk,
> 
> Like Greg said, ARRISat-1 is Robot 36. I also found that I received the 
> clearest pictures when I ran the audio directly into the pc versus letting 
> it pickup the audio from a speaker. I imagine you are probably already 
> doing this.
> 
> 73!
> 
> Zack
> KD8KSN
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: kp hpjr
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:35 PM
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> 
> GA,
> All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd like to try!
> I downloaded MMSSTV and installed.
> What are the best settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of 
> photos from ARRISAT-1?
> I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last pass of 
> ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures decoded.
> So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
> Any help appreciated.
> Kirk, N0KK
> 
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[amsat-bb] ARRISSAT1

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Batty
Hi guys,
 
Well, I heard the announcement enough times I thought I'd try some CW. So at 
the 1930 UTC pass today I had the rig set up and a soon as I heard the sat I 
started calling cq But, not having the kepps Installed I had to keep adjusting 
the VFO, which was OK. There was some one else doing CW and the copy was a tad 
fast for me I listened for some time till it went totally out of range, but it 
was Q5 copy all the way. Being a newbe at Sats this is all new to an old HF guy.
 
Good job Amsat and we certainly look forward to the Fox projects.
 
73 and and have a great new year
 
Joe KT7E
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[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread kp hpjr

Zack and others.

Yes, audio feed is direct as with all digi modes I operate.

Just had a pass of ARRISat-1 of 45 degrees plus over head. The downlink into my 
M2 5 element yagi @ 35 degrees elevation was S-9 plus 10db. A very good  
(great) signal. 

2 times during the pass the SSTV was transmitted. During neither of them did 
the program initialize and copy anything. Partway through the 2nd transmission 
I forced it into RX Robot-36. All that occured was for it to stop after about 5 
seconds. Again nothing decodedfrustrating to say the least. I'd like to get 
1 photo...HI.

Using the exact same setting I have had several QSO's now on HF sending and 
receiving very clear photos.

Not sure what else to try.

N0KK, Kirk

> From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
> To: inservice2...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:48:57 -0500
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> Hi Kirk,
> 
> Like Greg said, ARRISat-1 is Robot 36.  I also found that I received the 
> clearest pictures when I ran the audio directly into the pc versus letting 
> it pickup the audio from a speaker.  I imagine you are probably already 
> doing this.
> 
> 73!
> 
> Zack
> KD8KSN
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: kp hpjr
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:35 PM
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1
> 
> 
> GA,
> All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd like to try!
> I downloaded MMSSTV and installed.
> What are the best settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of 
> photos from ARRISAT-1?
> I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last pass of 
> ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures decoded.
> So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
> Any help appreciated.
> Kirk, N0KK
> 
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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 RADIOSKAF-V KEDR

2011-12-30 Thread Farrell Winder
All,
I am most pleased to advise that ARISSat-1/ RADIOSKAF-V/ KEDR is very much 
alive and giving an excellent performance through the 475.750/145.930 MHz 
TRANSPONDER.  On the 17:54Z pass over Cincinnati today December 30, I sent and 
copied my picture. Picture was my ATV call ID used for fast scan.  Picture came 
through all together but does have noise, particularly in the last half.  I 
will send it to the ARISS SSTV Gallery for consideration to post.  I hope 
others will also experiment with  CW, voice, and  SSTV via the Transponder.  
73,
Farrell Winder, W8ZCF
Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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[amsat-bb] ARRISat-1 Activity Report

2011-12-30 Thread GW1FKY
Hi all,
Pleased to report lots of activity on the last two passes of ARRISat-1  
over here in Europe today  (Friday)
Some calls at 1507 hrs  PD0RKC,  heard you and you were 5 X  8 but dropped 
to 5 X 5 rather quickly.
At 1639 hrs heard ON4GP calling and then in contact with DG1ER, you were  
both 5X7 prior to the satellite
switching off in eclipse.
Nice to report the activity as we approach the end on the year and an era  
for ARISSat-1.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
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[amsat-bb] PCSAT Status (and needs)

2011-12-30 Thread Bob Bruninga
PCSAT SUMMARY and SOLICITATION:  Our PCSAT recovery attempt this week was
unsuccessful this time, but she will be back to normal (intermittent, weak)
operation in a few weeks. 

BACKGROUND:  PCSAT is functional a few times a day in the northern
hemisphere year round.  You can see its telemetry and user activity on
http://pcsat.aprs.org .  But it dies every orbit in eclipse because it
defaults with backup systems turned ON.  We can turn them off, but it can
only really get enough charge to survive and keep them off during periodic
full-sun periods that only happen once or twice a year in winter.

PCSAT has a permanent +/-Z magnet for alignment with the Earth's field and a
0.6 RPM spin (solar pressure about Z).  The best solar panel is on the -Z
(south seeking axis).  On the 4 sides are our cheap plastic covered cells
and there are no panels on +Z.

With a 63 degree inclined orbit, PCSAT enters a full sun period about once
every 3 months.  PCSAT can be fully operational during those periods and
beyond if we can get command and turn off unnecessary redundant loads.

The problem is that the times when we get peak sun (peak power) on the BEST
panel is when we are also experiencing maximum eclipses.  SO we can command
easily (peak power available for a packet), but with only 45 minutes charge
time, cannot then last through the following 35 min eclipse (minimum average
power available).

On the other hand, when we have full sun and there are no eclipses (plenty
of average power), there is no sun on the -Z face to give us the peak power
we need for the few seconds to complete the packet command sequence.

What this means is that we really only have one or two days out of the 1 or
2 week full sun windows to get command, and only in winter.  Because each
orbit as we approach the terminator is getting less and less peak power, but
recovering it before full-sun cannot be sustained due to low average power.

VOLUNTEER STUDENT PROJECT?

Anyway, the offset between the earth's magnetic and geometric poles,
suggests there are several degrees of variation in the -Z sun power
depending on WHERE the commanding ground station is relative to the time of
day and orbit plane with respect to magnetic North.  Using simple geometry,
I have estimated our best command opportunity from Maryland is when the
satellite crosses about 35 deg N latitude and to our east in the morning as
the orbit approaches full sun.  But I have no comprehensive math model to
then predict other optimum times for other potential command locations.

DK3WN's ground station in Germany I think, sees a little bit better angle
differentiation due to his being perpendicular to the line between the
magnetic and geographic poles, but I would like to have a good formal
analysis of this geometry to better be able to coordinate our commanding.

When commanding, one only gets one attempt per orbit per day.  If it fails
due to lack of peak power, then the load of the satellites attempted
response and RETRIES kills the batteries for that orbit.

Anyway, working all of this out with a math model and plots so we can
predict these optimum times would be a great benefit to our decade old
satellite (the longest operational student project satellite).

Bob, WB4APR
USNA Sat Lab


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[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread G0MRF
Hi Kirk.
 
You need a very good signal to noise ration with that SSTV via FM.
 
I've had OK (ish) pictures with a 3 element beam, but it's not ideal.
 
Try a near overhead pass, it must be a lot closer now than it was 2 months  
ago when I last tried.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 30/12/2011 04:21:14 GMT Standard Time,  
inservice2...@hotmail.com writes:


GA,
All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd  like to try!
I downloaded MMSSTV and installed. 
What are the best  settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of 
photos from  ARRISAT-1?
I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last  pass of 
ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures  decoded.
So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
Any help  appreciated.
Kirk, N0KK

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[amsat-bb] EM45 on SO50

2011-12-30 Thread wa4hfn
I will try to work SO50- portable in EM45 at 0935 utc today 12-30-11 and maybe 
AO27 later also
WA4HFN/P em45
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[amsat-bb] EM46 grid trip 12.26.11

2011-12-30 Thread K4FEG
I am putting in the mail today cards for the following  stations for my 
Grid trip on 12.26.11:

AC0RA
KO4MA
CO6CBF (direct & to George)
NX9B
KB0RZD
K4MOA
WD9EWK
XE1AO

I know I worked others, if you need a confirmation for EM46, email the 
contact info and I will send you out my card, no card or SASE needed for 
this operation.

73's everyone
Frank
K4FEG
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[amsat-bb] OSCAR-11 Report

2011-12-30 Thread Clive Wallis

 OSCAR-11 REPORT   29 December 2011

This report covers the period from 01 September to 28
December 2011. The satellite has continued to operate in a
very predictable way since the last report, and no changes
have been observed. During this time the satellite has been
heard reliably during its ten-day transmission periods.
Excellent signals have been reported from stations located
around the world, and good copy obtained from decoded
telemetry frames.

The easiest way to check whether OSCAR-11 is operational is
to look at the General Satellite Status website
http://oscar.dcarr.org/index.php . You can also calculate
the operating schedule from the last switch-off time, which
was 28 December 2011 at 15:00 UTC (approx), using 10.35 days
off followed by 10.35 days on.

Reception reports have been received from Gustavo LW2DTZ,
Bob KI0G, Rolf HB9TSO and Francesco IT9JRU.  Many thanks to
all and those who posted to the status website.

The satellite is currently in eclipse during all evening
passes over the UK, resulting in lower signal strengths at
these times.  Owing to the gradual precession of the orbit,
the season for eclipses of the evening passes is longer
this year compared with the winter last year.

The on-board clock continues to gain, 28 seconds during the
current reporting period, and 112 seconds since regular
transmissions were resumed at the end of August 2010. There is
however a large accumulated error of 308.54303 days slow.
This was caused mainly by the clock stopping during
eclipses, when there was also an unknown drain on the power
supply. The units of the least significant digit correspond
approximately to seconds (0.86 seconds actually).

The VHF beacon frequency is 145.826 MHz.  AFSK FM ASCII
Telemetry. The satellite is operating in the default mode,
with a cycle time of 20.7 days. 10.35 days on followed by
10.35 days off.

At the present time, while OSCAR-11 is operating in a
predictable way, I no longer need direct reports or files by
e-mail. However, could all listeners continue to enter their
reports on the general satellite status website. This is a
very convenient and easy to use facility, which shows the
current status of all the amateur satellites, and is of use
to everyone. Reports around the expected times of switch-on
and switch-off are of special interest, especially for times
12:00 - 18:00 and 22:00 - 07:00 UTC, when the satellite is
out-of-range in the UK . The URL is
http://oscar.dcarr.org/index.php

A longer version of this report report is available on my
website, and new listeners to OSCAR-11 should read this for
further information. The URL is www.g3cwv.co.uk/oscar11.htm
. This page contains a links to the longer report, a short
audio clip to help you identify the satellite and a file of
the last telemetry received. The website also contains an
archive of news & telemetry data which is updated from time
to time, and details about using a soundcard or hardware
demodulators for data capture. There is also software for
capturing data, and decoding ASCII telemetry.

If you place this bulletin on a terrestrial packet network,
please use the bulletin identifier $BID:U2RPT157.CWV, to
prevent duplication.

73 Clive G3CWV xx...@amsat.org (please replace the x's by
g3cwv)
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[amsat-bb] Re: MMSSTV and ARRISat-1

2011-12-30 Thread Zachary Beougher

Hi Kirk,

Like Greg said, ARRISat-1 is Robot 36.  I also found that I received the 
clearest pictures when I ran the audio directly into the pc versus letting 
it pickup the audio from a speaker.  I imagine you are probably already 
doing this.


73!

Zack
KD8KSN

-Original Message- 
From: kp hpjr

Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:35 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] MMSSTV and ARRISat-1


GA,
All the talk about SSTV from this bird got me thinking I'd like to try!
I downloaded MMSSTV and installed.
What are the best settings to use in the setup page for decent copy of 
photos from ARRISAT-1?
I did copy pix on 14.230 after setup as a test run...but on last pass of 
ARRISAT, had wonderful copy of voice beacon but no pictures decoded.

So wonder what I might be doing wrong.
Any help appreciated.
Kirk, N0KK

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