[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!

2012-07-10 Thread Greg D
The easiest software I've seen to set up for iGating is APRSIS/32 
(Lynn's software). iGate is enabled by default, and you just need to 
tell it what port to use for the radio (external KISS TNC is easiest) 
and what server on the Internet side. Done.


Greg KO6TH


Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:

Hi Bob,

I could easily set up an Igate, but every time I've looked into it I've been 
turned off by the complexity of the software setup. Is there a one program, 
easy to configure solution? Audio in would be best, but tnc decode is ok as 
well.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2012, at 3:45 PM, "Bob Bruninga"  wrote:


Unfortunately, 70cm UHF doesn't lend itself to unattended
SatGate operations like 2m VHF does.  I tried catching the
ISS on UHF and only managed to hear, but not decode, one
packet burst.  I can't imagine anything short of a full
satellite station with automatic azimuth/elevation control
would capture many packets right now.

Actually the problem is not antenna pointing but Doppler.  With the 18 KHz
of dopper shift, you are only going to capture packets in the center 1/3rd
of the pass.  But the good news is that the ISS is ten dB closer to you at
that time.

Yes, you will not get as many packets, but they can be strong.  The problem
is that very few people are using the UHF packet digipeater, so if no one is
transmitting then there is nothing to hear.

In fact, listening on UHF (for the center of the pass) can be just fine,
especially on a 19" vertical whip.  Here are the factors:

1) due to Doppler, you are only going to decode packets above say about 30
degrees (without tuning)
2) When it is above 30 degrees, the ISS is 10 dB closer than on the horizon
3) When it is above 30 degrees the antenna pattern of a 19" whip (normally
used on 2 meters) acts as a 3/4 wave vertical for UHF and it has almost 7
dBi gain above 30 degrees

So everything is going in your favor and even better link margins on UHF
above 30 degrees and the packets should be plenty loud (assuming you
minimize your cable loss).

The only BAD news is that the ISS spends more than 70% of all inview time
below 30 degrees.

But the GOOD news is that such an IGate station can be natennteded, and with
no moving parts and I t can be replicated by lots more people due to this
simplicity.  So instead of having only say 6 unattended APRS IGates on the
2m downlink to cover the USA, we simply need more stations. Then the APRS-IS
system will still capture all packets, though any individual station will
only hear their own smaller "cone of strength"..

So we simply need to encourage more IGates and lower "individual"
expectations while the larger quantity of IGates raises the "system
expectations".

Something like that.

Bob, WB4APR

On 7/10/2012 10:42 AM, Lizeth Norman wrote:

Are there any stations in South America to gate aprs packets to the
net from the uhf freq? How does one do this? I've got a few Byonics
TT4's from a balloon project.
The story: I'll be driving the Panamerica Sur from Lima to Nazca Peru
and would like to have the ability to be seen via the net.
Norm n3ykf


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[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!

2012-07-10 Thread Lizeth Norman
Hi all,
Here's my plan. There will be two stations, one in Lima and one mobile
(me).  As I'll be within 250 miles of Lima, Peru, If I beacon the ISS
near apogee, the unattended ground station in Lima SHOULD capture it,
provided it is set to the center frequency.
The tnc's will be byonics tt4's.
'APR's comments on the antennas are noted. Should be easy to HB when I
get there.
Any comments?
Norm n3ykf
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[amsat-bb] Satellite presentation/demo @ Goodyear AZ on Monday (16 July) evening

2012-07-10 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi!

I will give a satellite-related presentation for the Tri-City Amateur 
Radio Association's monthly meeting on Monday, 16 July 2012, at 7.30pm.  
The meeting will be at the Goodyear City Hall, located at 190 N. 
Litchfield Road in Goodyear, Arizona (southwest corner of Litchfield
Road/Van Buren Street, south of exit 128 on the I-10 freeway).  More 
information about the club is available at http://www.tricityara.org/

About 30 minutes before the meeting (0200 UTC on Tuesday, 17 July), 
WD9EWK should be on an eastern VO-52 pass for a demonstration.  
Depending on how long the meeting and presentation go, there may be 
another demonstration later in the evening (SO-50 @ 0300 UTC, or a 
west-coast VO-52 pass @ 0335 UTC).  All demonstration plans are 
dependent on the weather.  I will try to update the -BB with the 
demonstration plans on Monday afternoon, as well as my Twitter feed
@WD9EWK (use http://twitter.com/wd9ewk if you aren't on Twitter 
directly to view my feed).  Please give us a call if you hear WD9EWK 
on any of these passes.  

If you work WD9EWK during any of these passes Monday evening and
want a QSL card, please e-mail me with the QSO details.  I will be 
happy to send out a card, without first receiving a card or SASE.
QSOs will also be uploaded to the Logbook of the World.  

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/


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[amsat-bb] New Grids on Trip *XE3DX*

2012-07-10 Thread David Maciel (XE3DX)


Hey guys, I'm on vacation with the family on the trip I can work some
squares for you, on the 16th-20th july, on SO-50 and AO-27 only, I will be
active in most of the day passes, I want to work EK48.EK49, EK69, EL50,
EL51, EL61 and EL60.Campeche,Yucatan and Quintana Roo States.  I returned
home on July 30th - 04th August, a second chance for activate this for you,
I await your comments. On xe...@amsat.org or @xe3dx twitter...



XE3DX
David Maciel

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[amsat-bb] Looking for WY

2012-07-10 Thread davekn4ok

Anyone from WY on the satellite?

Dave,
kn4ok
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[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!

2012-07-10 Thread Dave Webb KB1PVH
Drew,

I use UISS with the Sat gate add on and AGWPE. Quick easy setup.

Dave - KB1PVH

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[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!

2012-07-10 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
It's been a long time since I tried, but if I remember correctly 
something in AGW fouled up a different TNC program I had for 9k6 work. 
It was frustrating.


I'm sort of looking for a standalone gateway program, without all the 
other stuff to confuse things. It'd be nice to keep it as small as 
possible, to run on older hardware or something like an Atom netbook 
with XP. Anything like that out there?


73, Drew KO4MA

On 7/10/2012 5:32 PM, George Henry wrote:

Drew, I set up my (part-time) SatGate using UI-View32 and AGW Packet Engine.  It
was surprisingly easy to get it going.  I think the only real problem I ran into
was that the link for updating the APRS servers list was dead, but I Googled&
found a working link, and manually updated the list.

George, KA3HSW



- Original Message 

From: Andrew Glasbrenner
To: Bob Bruninga
Cc: ""
Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 3:06:29 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!

Hi Bob,

I could easily set up an Igate, but every time I've looked into  it I've been
turned off by the complexity of the software setup. Is there a one  program,
easy to configure solution? Audio in would be best, but tnc decode is  ok as
well.

73, Drew KO4MA



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[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!

2012-07-10 Thread George Henry
Drew, I set up my (part-time) SatGate using UI-View32 and AGW Packet Engine.  
It 
was surprisingly easy to get it going.  I think the only real problem I ran 
into 
was that the link for updating the APRS servers list was dead, but I Googled & 
found a working link, and manually updated the list.

George, KA3HSW



- Original Message 
> From: Andrew Glasbrenner 
> To: Bob Bruninga 
> Cc: "" 
> Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 3:06:29 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> I could easily set up an Igate, but every time I've looked into  it I've been 
>turned off by the complexity of the software setup. Is there a one  program, 
>easy to configure solution? Audio in would be best, but tnc decode is  ok as 
>well.
> 
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> 
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[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!

2012-07-10 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
Hi Bob,

I could easily set up an Igate, but every time I've looked into it I've been 
turned off by the complexity of the software setup. Is there a one program, 
easy to configure solution? Audio in would be best, but tnc decode is ok as 
well.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2012, at 3:45 PM, "Bob Bruninga"  wrote:

>> Unfortunately, 70cm UHF doesn't lend itself to unattended 
>> SatGate operations like 2m VHF does.  I tried catching the 
>> ISS on UHF and only managed to hear, but not decode, one 
>> packet burst.  I can't imagine anything short of a full 
>> satellite station with automatic azimuth/elevation control 
>> would capture many packets right now.
> 
> Actually the problem is not antenna pointing but Doppler.  With the 18 KHz
> of dopper shift, you are only going to capture packets in the center 1/3rd
> of the pass.  But the good news is that the ISS is ten dB closer to you at
> that time.
> 
> Yes, you will not get as many packets, but they can be strong.  The problem
> is that very few people are using the UHF packet digipeater, so if no one is
> transmitting then there is nothing to hear.
> 
> In fact, listening on UHF (for the center of the pass) can be just fine,
> especially on a 19" vertical whip.  Here are the factors:
> 
> 1) due to Doppler, you are only going to decode packets above say about 30
> degrees (without tuning)
> 2) When it is above 30 degrees, the ISS is 10 dB closer than on the horizon
> 3) When it is above 30 degrees the antenna pattern of a 19" whip (normally
> used on 2 meters) acts as a 3/4 wave vertical for UHF and it has almost 7
> dBi gain above 30 degrees 
> 
> So everything is going in your favor and even better link margins on UHF
> above 30 degrees and the packets should be plenty loud (assuming you
> minimize your cable loss).
> 
> The only BAD news is that the ISS spends more than 70% of all inview time
> below 30 degrees.
> 
> But the GOOD news is that such an IGate station can be natennteded, and with
> no moving parts and I t can be replicated by lots more people due to this
> simplicity.  So instead of having only say 6 unattended APRS IGates on the
> 2m downlink to cover the USA, we simply need more stations. Then the APRS-IS
> system will still capture all packets, though any individual station will
> only hear their own smaller "cone of strength"..
> 
> So we simply need to encourage more IGates and lower "individual"
> expectations while the larger quantity of IGates raises the "system
> expectations".
> 
> Something like that.
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
> 
> On 7/10/2012 10:42 AM, Lizeth Norman wrote:
>> Are there any stations in South America to gate aprs packets to the
>> net from the uhf freq? How does one do this? I've got a few Byonics
>> TT4's from a balloon project.
>> The story: I'll be driving the Panamerica Sur from Lima to Nazca Peru
>> and would like to have the ability to be seen via the net.
>> Norm n3ykf
>> 
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[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there? UHF works!

2012-07-10 Thread Bob Bruninga
> Unfortunately, 70cm UHF doesn't lend itself to unattended 
> SatGate operations like 2m VHF does.  I tried catching the 
> ISS on UHF and only managed to hear, but not decode, one 
> packet burst.  I can't imagine anything short of a full 
> satellite station with automatic azimuth/elevation control 
> would capture many packets right now.

Actually the problem is not antenna pointing but Doppler.  With the 18 KHz
of dopper shift, you are only going to capture packets in the center 1/3rd
of the pass.  But the good news is that the ISS is ten dB closer to you at
that time.

Yes, you will not get as many packets, but they can be strong.  The problem
is that very few people are using the UHF packet digipeater, so if no one is
transmitting then there is nothing to hear.

In fact, listening on UHF (for the center of the pass) can be just fine,
especially on a 19" vertical whip.  Here are the factors:

1) due to Doppler, you are only going to decode packets above say about 30
degrees (without tuning)
2) When it is above 30 degrees, the ISS is 10 dB closer than on the horizon
3) When it is above 30 degrees the antenna pattern of a 19" whip (normally
used on 2 meters) acts as a 3/4 wave vertical for UHF and it has almost 7
dBi gain above 30 degrees 

So everything is going in your favor and even better link margins on UHF
above 30 degrees and the packets should be plenty loud (assuming you
minimize your cable loss).

The only BAD news is that the ISS spends more than 70% of all inview time
below 30 degrees.

But the GOOD news is that such an IGate station can be natennteded, and with
no moving parts and I t can be replicated by lots more people due to this
simplicity.  So instead of having only say 6 unattended APRS IGates on the
2m downlink to cover the USA, we simply need more stations. Then the APRS-IS
system will still capture all packets, though any individual station will
only hear their own smaller "cone of strength"..

So we simply need to encourage more IGates and lower "individual"
expectations while the larger quantity of IGates raises the "system
expectations".

Something like that.

Bob, WB4APR

On 7/10/2012 10:42 AM, Lizeth Norman wrote:
> Are there any stations in South America to gate aprs packets to the
> net from the uhf freq? How does one do this? I've got a few Byonics
> TT4's from a balloon project.
> The story: I'll be driving the Panamerica Sur from Lima to Nazca Peru
> and would like to have the ability to be seen via the net.
> Norm n3ykf
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss frequency

2012-07-10 Thread Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
There's a lot of sites out there listing the original 145.825 frequency 
for the ISS APRS frequency, but if you look closely at the spot reports 
at http://www.issfanclub.com/packet-reports you'll quickly notice that 
it's operating on 437.550 UHF at the moment.  As it says at 
http://www.ariss-eu.org/frequencies.htm


** The amateur radio station located in the Columbus module is 
currently operational with the UHF Ericsson transceiver and packet 
system using the frequency of 437.550 MHz.




And this was announced back on June 11, 2012 at 
http://www.issfanclub.com/node/34092


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 7/9/2012 5:34 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote:

Check:

http://www.issfanclub.com/

for current status and updates.

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Nick Pugh  wrote:


What is the current frequency of the packet tx on the iss

Tnx



nick

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[amsat-bb] Re: aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there?

2012-07-10 Thread Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Unfortunately, 70cm UHF doesn't lend itself to unattended SatGate 
operations like 2m VHF does.  I tried catching the ISS on UHF and only 
managed to hear, but not decode, one packet burst.  I can't imagine 
anything short of a full satellite station with automatic 
azimuth/elevation control would capture many packets right now.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/10/2012 10:42 AM, Lizeth Norman wrote:

Are there any stations in South America to gate aprs packets to the
net from the uhf freq? How does one do this? I've got a few Byonics
TT4's from a balloon project.
The story: I'll be driving the Panamerica Sur from Lima to Nazca Peru
and would like to have the ability to be seen via the net.
Norm n3ykf


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[amsat-bb] Re: Telstar Launched 50 Years Ago Today

2012-07-10 Thread John / NS1Z
I worked at the Andover, Maine TelStar station for 10-12 years. It is now 
owned by Verizon I think. Ask anyone about the Radome or AN02 as it was 
known.


-Original Message- 
From: B J

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:19 AM
To: amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telstar Launched 50 Years Ago Today

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/07/04/50-years-ago-the-first-tv-satellite-telstar/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstar

I remember how people were fascinated by what it could do.  "Live via
satellite" was a magic phrase back then.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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[amsat-bb] Telstar's 50th Anniversary QSO Party (TODAY!!)

2012-07-10 Thread ka2pbt
Jul 10, 1500Z-2100Z

To commemorate the launch of TELSTAR, W2NFA AT&T Middletown Amateur
Radio Club will operate a special event station at the site of the
Holmdel Horn Antenna. (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmdel_Horn_Antenna )

The horn antenna at Bell Telephone Laboratories in Holmdel, New
Jersey, was constructed in 1959 to support Project Echo—the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration's passive communications
satellite project which used orbiting aluminized plastic balloons as
reflectors to bounce radio signals from one point on Earth to another.

Later the horn was used as a radio telescope by Arno Penzias and
Robert Wilson in the discovery of the cosmic microwave background
radiation leftover from the "Big Bang."

SSB 21.325 14.275 7.275
CW 7.040 14.040 21.040.

We will be attempting satellite contacts on FO-29 and AO27 at the
following times (UTC):
AO27 16:48 - 16:54
FO29: 17:20 - 17:40
AO27: 18:28 - 18:35


Certificate Available:
AT&T Amateur Radio Club
c/o Steve Wolkovitz
200 Laurel Ave,
Rm A3-4A35
Middletown, NJ 07748-1998.

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[amsat-bb] TV interview with 10 year old ham

2012-07-10 Thread Trevor .
Channel 9 TV talked to a 10 year old ham about his DIY space projects. 

See http://www.uk.amsat.org/8821 

73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium Sept. 15-16
http://www.uk.amsat.org/colloquium/twelve
AMSAT-UK News on Twitter: http://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK



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[amsat-bb] Latests and Last rev to APEEx

2012-07-10 Thread Mark Spencer
The last rev to the APEEx concept.  Included a couple of slides on command
details is all.

 

Mark

 

Mark Spencer, WA8SME

Education and Technology Program Director

ARRL, the national association for Amateur RadioTM

43 Pinelock Dr.

Gales Ferry, CT 06335

860-381-5335

860-460-1139 (cell)

mspen...@arrl.org

 

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[amsat-bb] aprs iss freq: is there anyone out there?

2012-07-10 Thread Lizeth Norman
Are there any stations in South America to gate aprs packets to the
net from the uhf freq? How does one do this? I've got a few Byonics
TT4's from a balloon project.
The story: I'll be driving the Panamerica Sur from Lima to Nazca Peru
and would like to have the ability to be seen via the net.
Norm n3ykf
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[amsat-bb] Peru trip July 22-August

2012-07-10 Thread Lizeth Norman
Hi all,
I have finally received my customs docs for the equipment.  Will drive
down to Nazca activating grid squares along the way.
Norm n3ykf
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[amsat-bb] Telstar Launched 50 Years Ago Today

2012-07-10 Thread B J
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/07/04/50-years-ago-the-first-tv-satellite-telstar/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstar

I remember how people were fascinated by what it could do.  "Live via
satellite" was a magic phrase back then.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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[amsat-bb] Pakistan Activation on Satellite and HF

2012-07-10 Thread JoAnne Maenpaa
Hello everyone,

Here is a news item that would be too late if we waited for the weekend
publication schedule:

Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1069

AP, PAKISTAN. Operators Asad/AP2AUM, Muhammad/AP2MF and Khalid/AP2MKS
will be active as AP2ARS from Swat District between 1300z July 14th and
1900z July 15th. They will operate from an elevation of 2300m ASL using
frequencies 7050 and 14150 kHz, and the satellites. Power output will be
150 watts to an Inverted V dipole for HF and an egg beater for the
satellite communications (Grid Locater: MM65HH). QSL via: PARS AP2ARS,
P.O.BOX 1450, Islamabad, 44000, Pakistan.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9...@amsat.org 
Editor, AMSAT News Service


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[amsat-bb] AO-07 may be out of Eclipse periode

2012-07-10 Thread Ib Christoffersen
Hi all,
It looks like AO-07 is out of the Eclipse period again.
Will be interesting to follow over the next couple of days.
73 OZ1MY
Ib


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[amsat-bb] aprs iss frequency

2012-07-10 Thread Gaston BERTELS

Nick,

Please see http://www.ariss-eu.org/frequencies.htm

73, Gaston - ON4WF


At 21:59 9/07/2012, Nick Pugh wrote:
What is the current frequency of the packet tx on the iss

Tnx



nick

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