[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2009-07-25 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Howard,

They are on packet now on 145.825 MHz.

Alan
WA4SCA




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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2009-07-25 Thread Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]
ISS ops have been a bit spotty due to the shuttle mission and all the EVA 
activity. Today (July 25) packet was active on 145.825 simplex and will be 
powered down again for EVA 5 on Monday (July 27). More info on that at 
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html. 

A couple of school contacts are scheduled for June 30 over NE USA and Europe. 
Feel free to listen in on 145.80 if you are in the footprint at the right time.

Kenneth - N5VHO


From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
Howard Kowall [hkow...@shaw.ca]
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:21 PM
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Subject: [amsat-bb]  ISS

Hello to all
Is the ISS  operational
I haven herd anything on In a long time
Been listening to 145.800 not even a peep
thanks to all who respond
Howard
VE4ISP
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2009-09-11 Thread Erich Eichmann
Hello,
my  mail to you was twice returned by the Mail Delivery
System, I don't know why.

Here my text again:

Make sure that you are using actual Keps, that the PC clock is exact and
that you entered your locaction correctly.
You may compare the ISS position in the SatPC32 world map with the position
shown on the AMSAT site:

http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/satloc.php

If the positions in both maps are equal probably your location entry will be
the reason for the wrong AOS.

73s, Erich, DK1TB


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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:39 AM
Subject: ISS


> Trouble tracking ISS with SatPC32 . My SatPC32 running under WIN98SE
> always
> has ISS AOS about 20min. late. I have Ver 12.7 #GI102116121
> Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  KA9ERV
> WCP
>
>


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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2009-09-14 Thread Andrew Rich
We found a problem with the position of the ISS

We have fired the retro rockets to correct it to meet your tracking 
software.

NASA thanks you for pointing this out to us

You are indeed correct, the ISS was 20 minutes late

This is due to a new female commander on boad

Cheers



> - Original Message - 
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> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:39 AM
> Subject: ISS
>
>
>> Trouble tracking ISS with SatPC32 . My SatPC32 running under WIN98SE
>> always
>> has ISS AOS about 20min. late. I have Ver 12.7 #GI102116121
>> Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  KA9ERV
>> WCP
>>
>>
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2009-11-26 Thread jeffk13057
106.94 miles.

73 Jeff WB2SYK
FN13
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Sent: Nov 26, 2009 20:19

Hi all,

Just has the opportunity to view the ISS and shuttle, tagging along over Las 
Vegas, NV.  The shuttle was trailing approximately 22 seconds behind the 
ISS.  Now to calculate the distance. ;-)


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS

 


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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2011-06-16 Thread Jeremy Bomkamp
No problem Kevin.  I dont rely on HRD sat tracker much but after seeing your 
message on the board I did some investigating to see what the problem actually 
was.  My HRD sat tracking was lagging like yours for the ISS, I closed it and 
tried running as administrator and uploading keps and nothing changed.  By 
chance I changed my keps on satpc32 from celestrak to amsat and the ISS was 
predicted to be the same position as HRD.  That is how I came across the remedy 
for HRD, but when I eliminated the amsat site for keps downloads, all it showed 
was the moon no matter what sat I selected, so I shut down sat tracker and 
restarted and everything worked like it should.  And before Alan asks again, my 
callsign is AB9RU, and thanks again Alan for your satpc32 doppler file, and 
Kevin good luck hunting packet QSO's on the ISS digi
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2011-06-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Kevin Deane  wrote:
>
> Well it was on time ond on that last pass for me but I didnt get in... I can 
> still hear it!!!

Hear what?  :-)

Packet or voice?

-aps
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2011-09-01 Thread Roger

Probably listening on another frequency...

Roger
WA1KAT

On 8/31/2011 4:30 PM, Kevin Deane wrote:

ARISS - International Space Station (BBS/APRS on)


ISS is transmiting this but not accepting packets nor BBS connections. Probly 
off just sending the wrong ID.


Kevin
KF7MYK


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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-05-22 Thread Dave Webb KB1PVH
Louis,

Satpc32ISS is what you want to use for same band operations with the 910.
You can find it by clicking start> programs> satpc32. There will be a list
of all the programs  that install with satpc32. Hope this helps.

Dave - KB1PVH

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On May 22, 2010 8:17 PM, "Louis House, KD5GM"  wrote:

Running SatPC32 here and am wondering how to configure the SQF files to
drive the IC910H for the ISS.  Since most of the ISS frequencies are 2M/2M
(up and down links), will the software control for this V/V mode or does one
have to do the manual operation for the ISS?
Thanks
LOUIS, KD5GM
CW, The original digital mode
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-11 Thread Fabiano Moser
Congratulations !

I also worked him yesterday night 21:48UTC and my colleg Cor PD0RKC in
Holland.

Good luck!

73 Fabiano Moser
CT7ABD - PY5RX

2010/7/10 

> Made my first ISS voice contact with NA1SS  he was full meter reading
> WA4HFN em55
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-11 Thread Fabiano Moser
Hello Matthias,

How are you?
I used US (144.490) uplink setup to work Doug, that seems they don´t change
to Europe channels while a pass.

You must try always the two frequencies.
Good luck and congratulations dor 3th place at World Cup! :-) you do better
than us in Brazil this time! :)

73 Fabiano
CT7ABD


2010/7/11 Matthias Bopp 

> Hi Fabiano,
>
> how do you do ?
>
> Congrats to the contact !
>
> Which up- and downlink frequencies were used ?
>
> Regards
>
> Matthias
>
> www.dd1us.de
>
>
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> Von: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] Im
> Auftrag von Fabiano Moser
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. Juli 2010 13:13
> An: wa4...@comcast.net
> Cc: amsat-bb
> Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS
>
> Congratulations !
>
> I also worked him yesterday night 21:48UTC and my colleg Cor PD0RKC in
> Holland.
>
> Good luck!
>
> 73 Fabiano Moser
> CT7ABD - PY5RX
>
> 2010/7/10 
>
> > Made my first ISS voice contact with NA1SS  he was full meter reading
> > WA4HFN em55
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-11 Thread Greg D.

I just worked him on the 23:30z pass.  Strong signal.

Greg  KO6TH


> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 23:01:35 +
> From: wa4...@comcast.net
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  ISS
> 
> 
> 
> Just worked ISS again COL Wheelock 22:01 UTC from em55 on 145.800rec and 
> 144.490 T on FM 
> 
> This was my second contact this weekend  WOW 
> 
> also KI4OTG here in Memphis also worked him. It seems that the voice contacts 
> are made around the 22.xx utc time The signal was full scale on my TS 2000 
> with a 17B antenna 
> 
>  73 all es gud luk 
> 
>  WA4HFN Damon 
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-12 Thread Jeremy Cowgar
With all the talk about ISS, I decided to try. I heard Col Wheelock on 
two passes but he never acknowledged my call. Then the pass today at 
22:30 I was calling "KB8LFA Jeremy in Akron, Ohio"... He came back and 
said "Got you loud and clear Akron, We are now passing ..."

It might not happen all the time and probably not at the exact time I 
transmit but how do I know there was not a stronger station saying 
Akron, Ohio as well? Is this what constitutes a contact w/NA1SS?

Jeremy
KB8LFA
http://www.kb8lfa.com

On 7/11/2010 7:01 PM, wa4...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Just worked ISS again COL Wheelock 22:01 UTC from em55 on 145.800rec and 
> 144.490 T on FM
>
> This was my second contact this weekend  WOW
>
> also KI4OTG here in Memphis also worked him. It seems that the voice contacts 
> are made around the 22.xx utc time The signal was full scale on my TS 2000 
> with a 17B antenna
>
>   73 all es gud luk
>
>   WA4HFN Damon
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-12 Thread David - KG4ZLB
I may be wrong but "technically" you would need to have NA1SS repeat 
your call to be a true contact - he may have written your call down and 
forgot to acknowledge you by callsign in which case send a QSL and you 
might get lucky - if not then keep trying, Its great when it does happen 
and you know that an Astronaut flying at 17600mph in space is talking 
directly to you!

Best of luck

David
KG4ZLB

On 7/12/2010 20:18, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
> With all the talk about ISS, I decided to try. I heard Col Wheelock on
> two passes but he never acknowledged my call. Then the pass today at
> 22:30 I was calling "KB8LFA Jeremy in Akron, Ohio"... He came back and
> said "Got you loud and clear Akron, We are now passing ..."
>
> It might not happen all the time and probably not at the exact time I
> transmit but how do I know there was not a stronger station saying
> Akron, Ohio as well? Is this what constitutes a contact w/NA1SS?
>
> Jeremy
> KB8LFA
> http://www.kb8lfa.com
>
> On 7/11/2010 7:01 PM, wa4...@comcast.net wrote:
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-12 Thread Jeremy Cowgar
I believe that's true however during my limited experience (listening to 
a few passes, then trying to work 2 and finally getting him on the 
third) I've *never* head him give a call. It's always "Hear you loud and 
clear Cleveland" or "Got you Rick..."

Has this been other peoples experience?

Jeremy
KB8LFA
http://www.kb8lfa.com

On 7/12/2010 9:26 PM, David - KG4ZLB wrote:
> I may be wrong but "technically" you would need to have NA1SS repeat
> your call to be a true contact - he may have written your call down and
> forgot to acknowledge you by callsign in which case send a QSL and you
> might get lucky - if not then keep trying, Its great when it does happen
> and you know that an Astronaut flying at 17600mph in space is talking
> directly to you!
>
> Best of luck
>
> David
> KG4ZLB
>
> On 7/12/2010 20:18, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
>
>> With all the talk about ISS, I decided to try. I heard Col Wheelock on
>> two passes but he never acknowledged my call. Then the pass today at
>> 22:30 I was calling "KB8LFA Jeremy in Akron, Ohio"... He came back and
>> said "Got you loud and clear Akron, We are now passing ..."
>>
>> It might not happen all the time and probably not at the exact time I
>> transmit but how do I know there was not a stronger station saying
>> Akron, Ohio as well? Is this what constitutes a contact w/NA1SS?
>>
>> Jeremy
>> KB8LFA
>> http://www.kb8lfa.com
>>  

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-12 Thread Greg D.

I heard a mix.  Often name or location, sometimes the call sign or parts of it. 
 He did my suffix, then the whole call on the return, along with the location 
(state only).  It was usually pretty clear who he was talking to but I can see 
how there is room for improvement.  

The main problem I had was not knowing when he was done with the previous QSO, 
as he never prompted with QRZ, and only 73'd the previous caller about a third 
of the time.

Greg  KO6TH


> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:01:57 -0400
> From: jer...@cowgar.com
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS
> 
> I believe that's true however during my limited experience (listening to 
> a few passes, then trying to work 2 and finally getting him on the 
> third) I've *never* head him give a call. It's always "Hear you loud and 
> clear Cleveland" or "Got you Rick..."
> 
> Has this been other peoples experience?
> 
> Jeremy
> KB8LFA
> http://www.kb8lfa.com
> 
> On 7/12/2010 9:26 PM, David - KG4ZLB wrote:
> > I may be wrong but "technically" you would need to have NA1SS repeat
> > your call to be a true contact - he may have written your call down and
> > forgot to acknowledge you by callsign in which case send a QSL and you
> > might get lucky - if not then keep trying, Its great when it does happen
> > and you know that an Astronaut flying at 17600mph in space is talking
> > directly to you!
> >
> > Best of luck
> >
> > David
> > KG4ZLB
> >
> > On 7/12/2010 20:18, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
> >
> >> With all the talk about ISS, I decided to try. I heard Col Wheelock on
> >> two passes but he never acknowledged my call. Then the pass today at
> >> 22:30 I was calling "KB8LFA Jeremy in Akron, Ohio"... He came back and
> >> said "Got you loud and clear Akron, We are now passing ..."
> >>
> >> It might not happen all the time and probably not at the exact time I
> >> transmit but how do I know there was not a stronger station saying
> >> Akron, Ohio as well? Is this what constitutes a contact w/NA1SS?
> >>
> >> Jeremy
> >> KB8LFA
> >> http://www.kb8lfa.com
> >>  
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-13 Thread MM
It’s the responsibility of ARISS to teach the ISS crews how to handle a pile up 
and to teach them the correct exchanges.

ARISS has been successful in getting the ISS crews to pass their licenses.
ARISS has not successful in teaching the ISS crews how to use the Amateur Radio 
equipment or the proper “Exchange” protocols.

Unless you get a legitimate acknowledgment back, you have no proof he was 
talking to you or to one of the other stations within a 1000-mile radius.


Wf1f


--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Jeremy Cowgar  wrote:

> From: Jeremy Cowgar 
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:01 PM
> I believe that's true however during
> my limited experience (listening to 
> a few passes, then trying to work 2 and finally getting him
> on the 
> third) I've *never* head him give a call. It's always "Hear
> you loud and 
> clear Cleveland" or "Got you Rick..."
> 
> Has this been other peoples experience?
> 
> Jeremy
> KB8LFA
> http://www.kb8lfa.com
> 
> On 7/12/2010 9:26 PM, David - KG4ZLB wrote:
> > I may be wrong but "technically" you would need to
> have NA1SS repeat
> > your call to be a true contact - he may have written
> your call down and
> > forgot to acknowledge you by callsign in which case
> send a QSL and you
> > might get lucky - if not then keep trying, Its great
> when it does happen
> > and you know that an Astronaut flying at 17600mph in
> space is talking
> > directly to you!
> >
> > Best of luck
> >
> > David
> > KG4ZLB
> >
> > On 7/12/2010 20:18, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
> >    
> >> With all the talk about ISS, I decided to try. I
> heard Col Wheelock on
> >> two passes but he never acknowledged my call. Then
> the pass today at
> >> 22:30 I was calling "KB8LFA Jeremy in Akron,
> Ohio"... He came back and
> >> said "Got you loud and clear Akron, We are now
> passing ..."
> >>
> >> It might not happen all the time and probably not
> at the exact time I
> >> transmit but how do I know there was not a
> stronger station saying
> >> Akron, Ohio as well? Is this what constitutes a
> contact w/NA1SS?
> >>
> >> Jeremy
> >> KB8LFA
> >> http://www.kb8lfa.com
> >>      
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-13 Thread DOMINICK INTERDONATO
Hi All.
In order to expedite this info, here is the scoop.
To confirm a contact, you must send the information Date, Time, who you 
talked to etc.
to:
ARRL Headquarters
ARISS QSL Expedition #24
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111-1494 USA

You must include a Large Self addressed envelope with enough postage to 
cover the
cost back to you. (at least 2 IRC's or equivalent)

This is for US cards only.  Check the ARRL website for other countries 
QSL Programs.

This expedition number with Doug Wheelock, KF5BOC, is #24 -along with 
Shannon Walker.
Good luck on your contacts and be patient with the QSL being sent back.
73,
Dee, NB2F
NJ AMSAT Coordinator




On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Peter Portanova wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've made contact with the appropriate person within NASA regarding 
> how the ISS is acknowledging our contacts.   I will let you know as 
> soon as I hear something, meanwhile enjoy the fact that the channel is 
> open.
>
> 73's Pete
> WB2OQQ
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-14 Thread Bill Acito

Anyone have a recording of the pass over NA at 6PM EDT, today?

I worked Col. Wheelock from the mobile (5:50EDT) outside of Boston. He 
acknowledged calls and the fact that I was mobile. 

(thank you, Pete)

I usually have a digital audio recorder in the car, but neglected to bring it 
today.

Contact me at [my ca...@hotmail

Bill W1PA


  
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-22 Thread Dave Webb KB1PVH
Jack,

ISS cross band repeater is 437.800 up, 145.800 down. For crew contact,
144.490 up, 145.800 down, if they do it correctly up there.

Dave - KB1PVH

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On Jul 22, 2010 8:07 AM, "Jack Barbera"  wrote:


Just noted that the listing for ISS in satellite details @ AMSAT has the
uplink
145.800 and down 437.800 ,but Satpac has just the reverse for the voice
repeater. Which is correct?
thanks for any help Jack WA1ZDV
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-22 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
Jack Barbera wrote:
> Just noted that the listing for ISS in satellite details @ AMSAT has the 
> uplink 
> 145.800 and down 437.800 ,but Satpac has just the reverse for the voice 
> repeater. Which is correct?
> thanks for any help Jack WA1ZDV 
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If you take a look at 
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/satInfo.php?satID=19&retURL=/satellites/status.php
 
we have both V/U and U/V listed, as it has operated in both 
configurations. I believe the V/U one is more common though.

73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-07-22 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> f you take a look at 
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/satInfo.php?satID=19&retURL=/satellites/status.php
>  
> we have both V/U and U/V listed, as it has operated in both 
> configurations. I believe the V/U one is more common though.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>   
Scratch that. I edited the page this morning with input from Kenneth, N5VHO.

73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2010-09-27 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Jack,

The ISS does not have a dedicated amateur beacon.  It operates in a variety
of modes, with the most common being packet and voice with two meter
downlinks on 145.825 and 145.800, respectively.  See this link for more
detailed info:

http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/satInfo.php?satID=19&retURL=/satel
lites/status.php

and this one for relatively current status:

http://www.issfanclub.com

When it is active, it is loud, easily heard on an HT, though of course a
real antenna is better.  Due to various operational requirements, it is
often QRT.

As for SATPC32ISS, basically it just requires the same serial link as the
regular program.  Are you using an IC-910?  In earlier versions you needed a
jumper on the ACC socket, but as of version 12.8a that is no longer
required.

Alan
WA4SCA




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Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS

Need a little help with ISS
Was under the impression  that ISS had a beacon, but have not been able to 
locate the frequency.  


To use ISS satpc32 I believed it was mentioned that some sort of a hand
shake 
between the program/radio/computer was necessary.  Can someone provide what
has 
to be done.  


Thanks to anyone who can help me.

 Jack WA1ZDV 
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2011-12-19 Thread K5OE

Kevin, et al,
I listened on Saturday and did not hear any packets on 437.550.  The 2 m 
downlink was working FB.
73,
Jerry, K5OE


> ISS is working great but I forgot to try the 437.550 anyone know how that 
> side 
> is working?
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Timeline

2009-04-25 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Although it does say that the P6 truss arrived several years before the P3, P4 
and P5 to which it is connected so the 
details seem a bit astray.


Jeff Thomas wrote:
> Pretty interesting. Timeline of the ISS.
> 
>  
> 
> http://i.usatoday.net/tech/graphics/iss_timeline/flash.htm
> 
>  
> 
> 73, Jeff
> 
> K7WIN
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS PACKET

2009-05-28 Thread George Henry
A TNC is basically a glorified modem.  As such, it doesn't care what OS is 
running on the computer - DOS, XP, Vista, Linux, Mac OS X, etc, or even 
whether you use a computer at all:  a TNC will even work with a dumb 
terminal.

George, KA3HSW

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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:28 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS PACKET


> Hello to all,
>
> I have a PacComm TINY-2 MK-2 TNC and would like to use it for ISS Packet.
>
> My question is: Can I use it with a computer running MS Windows XP, or do 
> I
> need a DOS based OS to use this type TNC?
>
> What software is necessary to run on Windows XP and possible APRS?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Peter, NH6VB
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Rocky Jones



> From: rswa...@twcny.rr.com

> 
> Ok , label me ignorant .. But is it that difficult to boost its orbit? I
> guess I need a techie explaination .. 
> Heck .. If its going to just burn up .. Then just before it gets to the
> point off no return, then take those 
> Huge solar panels to the moon .. LOL  or take some of the modules to the
> moon .. 
> 
> Whats going to replace the space station? The lunar base?
> 
> Anyways... Someone explain to me please lol
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Randy - N2CUA


Randy.  ISS is not going to just "burn up".  ISS is an "engine" and that engine 
requires federal US dollars to keep running.  NASA having just about finished 
ISS has no idea of what to do with it, and wants to move on to the next grand 
project.  Sadly for them in this time of 1.6 trillion deficts there is no more 
money for "the next logical step" and so they are forced to find dollars 
somewhere else...and for them that means shutting down ISS.

NASA isnt going back to the Moon and they are not going to get to shut ISS 
down.  It will be around for a very long time.

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
NASA's lack of money or commitment doesn't prevent the other countries in the 
consortium from using the station past 
NASAs cut off date. It doesn't have to die just because the US say so.

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Rocky Jones



> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:02:36 +
> From: ni...@ngunn.net

> 
> NASA's lack of money or commitment doesn't prevent the other countries in the 
> consortium from using the station past 
> NASAs cut off date. It doesn't have to die just because the US say so.
> 

As a practical matter if the US were to pull out of ISS the station would not 
be viable.  Most if not all of the major support hardware (solar arrays etc) 
are US built and maintained..without US involvement the TDRSS system disappears 
for instance..The "bucks" required to maintain the station are enormous...

It doesnt matter because anyone who thinks that the political system in the US 
would allow spending almost 100 billion to build ISS then chunking it after 5 
years of "use"  doesnt understand US politics...ISS will be around for a very 
long time.

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only 
country with satallite communications systems 
or solar voltaic panel production facilities.

Rocky Jones wrote:
   Most if not all of the major support hardware
> (solar arrays etc) are US built and maintained..without US involvement 
> the TDRSS system disappears for instance..The "bucks" required to 
> maintain the station are enormous...
> 

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Rocky Jones



> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:57:38 +
> From: ni...@ngunn.net
> To: orbit...@hotmail.com
> CC: rswa...@twcny.rr.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
> 
> I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only 
> country with satallite communications systems 
> or solar voltaic panel production facilities.
> 
did not say that...

but ISS stuff is "unique"...and US pockets are (so far) deep...NASA spends more 
to maintain the space station then Europe and Japans human space budget 
combined.

it is a money pit

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Joe
Really!

I'd like to see where in the states solar panels are being made?  Other 
than some new technologies that have just started up, 90% or more and 
I'm thinking 90% is way LOW   anyway panels are made in Japan or China 
right now.

Joe WB9SBD

Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:

>I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only 
>country with satallite communications systems 
>or solar voltaic panel production facilities.
>
>Rocky Jones wrote:
>   Most if not all of the major support hardware
>  
>
>>(solar arrays etc) are US built and maintained..without US involvement 
>>the TDRSS system disappears for instance..The "bucks" required to 
>>maintain the station are enormous...
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Rocky Jones


Joe.  very little of ISS is cutting edge in its technology.  somewhere at 
NASA's web sites you can find which state things were made in...the solar 
arrays are home grown.  That of course does not mean that the US is the only 
country that makes them.

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Trevor .
Ultimately it's all down to politics in Washington DC. 

If you think about it if the US cannot afford to sustain a small space station 
that's as close to the Earth as possible then there is no way they can afford a 
base on the Moon let alone Mars. ISS requires frequent resupply missions to 
keep it going, it's nowhere near self sustained. They haven't even got the 
dirty laundry issue cracked - how do you wash clothes in space ? 

Personally I think ISS will still be there in 2025 and even then they'll be 
looking to extend its mission.  

73 Trevor M5AKA 



  

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Randy
First of all, thanks for all the replies.
Where I got that info was off the ISS FAN CLUB site
And was from some one that seemed to be knowledgeable..
But must have been opinion as well .. 

Trust me when I say that I hope it is around MUCH MUCH
Longer .. I would like to be able to work thru It long into
My retirement which is in 5 ish years.. And aee them do some
Other amateur radio projects, like a constant running SSTV system.
More then one radio .. Things like that .. :)

Again, thanks for everyone's thoughts .. 
Always welcomed and muchly appreciated

Randy - N2CUA


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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Jeff Davis
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Trevor . wrote:
> Ultimately it's all down to politics in Washington DC.
> Personally I think ISS will still be there in 2025 and even then they'll be 
> looking to extend its mission.

Lost in this conversation is the fact that very soon we (US) will no
longer have a way to get to the ISS -- with the retirement of the
shuttle fleet... I have no hard data on the structural integrity of a
thin steel body that alternates between extreme heat and cold
multiples times each day for decades, but it seems highly improbable
that the ISS would remain on orbit for so many years and remain a safe
place for humans to hang out.

Don't forget that on orbit construction began in 1998 -- meaning the
primary structure is older than my car and I drive a seriously tired
old clunker! :-)

73 de Jeff, KE9V
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?

2009-08-19 Thread Rocky Jones



> 
> 73 de Jeff, KE9V
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Packet

2011-05-28 Thread Dave Webb KB1PVH
Kevin,

The downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 144.490. If you don't hear packet on
145.825 try listening on 145.800 as they can only do one mode at a time.

Dave - KB1PVH

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On May 28, 2011 2:30 PM, "Kevin Deane"  wrote:
>
> Got through this morning on the ISS using APRS. What frequencies are good
for contacting the crew? I have heard of several differentones and seeing
how it is always a pretty short pass...Or small footprint rather. I dont
know just would like to try the right one.
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Qsl

2011-06-07 Thread Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]
If you are digipeating "through" the ISS then you are using the ISS as a relay 
just like any other satellite that you communicate through and that would not 
qualify as a contact with the ISS (or satellite). 

If you desire a contact with the ISS then you must contact it directly. The 
most rewarding way is to talk directly to the crew (but a lot like rare DX). 
You can use packet to connect to the ISS remote system (RS0ISS-3) when that is 
active to receive an automatic response from the system on board or connect to 
the BBS (not recommended during heavy traffic periods). I think it might have 
an auto response from RS0ISS-4 as well but do not recall at this moment.

If you just want a SWL card for hearing the ISS then send in your report to 
your respective QSL bureau. The list is available at 
http://www.rac.ca/ariss/oindex.htm#QSL's


Kenneth - N5VHO


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Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Qsl


Hi Group,
 
Does anyone here know the ISS QSL card requirements for digipeating through 
RS0ISS-4?
 
Obviously it is possible to get a QSL card from the other amateur radio station 
on the ground, with whom you have a 2 way packet QSO in a pass.
 
Is there any way to get an ISS QSL card itself, other than by having a two way 
voice contact with the ISS crew? Not a SWL card for receiving only. 
 
I know the ISS fanclub produce a certificate for digipeating through the ISS, 
but want to find out if ARISS itself does anything similar that doesn't involve 
leaving a message on the BBS?
 
All the best
 
Philip G0ISW
 
I second this question...
 
Kevin
KF7MYK
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-15 Thread Nigel A. Gunn
Are you saying that there is a problem with HRD or that your keps that 
HRD is using are not up to date?
If the latter, download your keps directly from Space Track.

On 16/06/11 04:31, Kevin Deane wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to fix HRD keps, Amsat and Heavens are right on and all 
> the other sats are good. I know they had to boost the ISS and I did see that 
> post but is there any way to get HRD going right? The automatic dealy bob is 
> doing its thing, but obviously not getting the updated keps for ISS...:(
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-15 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 23:05 -0700, Kevin Deane wrote:
> 
> So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a
> good Digi Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good
> info but not on there keps download.

Because the amsat site is an unusable pile of crap, with various bits
and pieces that don't entirely talk to each other.

The keps download and the pass predictions should pull their information
from the same source.  This would be incredibly easy to script.
However, it appears that the downloadable keps are only updated when
someone can be bothered to get off their hindmost and upload a text file
containing them.

Several people (including) have offered to fix or rewrite the amsat.org
site, even for free.  Instead they're all too busy with their HEO
cargo-cult.

Gordon MM0YEQ


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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread STeve Andre'
On 06/16/11 02:38, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 23:05 -0700, Kevin Deane wrote:
>> So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a
>> good Digi Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good
>> info but not on there keps download.
> Because the amsat site is an unusable pile of crap, with various bits
> and pieces that don't entirely talk to each other.
>
> The keps download and the pass predictions should pull their information
> from the same source.  This would be incredibly easy to script.
> However, it appears that the downloadable keps are only updated when
> someone can be bothered to get off their hindmost and upload a text file
> containing them.
>
> Several people (including) have offered to fix or rewrite the amsat.org
> site, even for free.  Instead they're all too busy with their HEO
> cargo-cult.
>
> Gordon MM0YEQ

Offer again, in public?  Like, here?

--STeve Andre'
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Kevin,

The AMSAT Keps distribution service dates back to the dark ages when the
Internet as we know it did not exist.  Many got their info from the packet
system since e-mail was fairly hard, and expensive, to come by.  Also, all
satellites were in a high enough orbits, and did not maneuver, that their
Keps changed very slowly.  Usually the Keps were good for a month or more,
with the difference being only a few seconds when you updated.  AMSAT.ALL is
updated about once a week, no matter how many times you download it.  For
most satellites, that was, and is, more than enough.  They do have the
advantage that they use only the common satellite names, and at times in the
past have quietly fixed some cases where Space Track has incorrectly paired
object numbers with common names.  They also include Keps for satellites
which for some reason do not appear from Space Track, but only on their own
web sites.

For the ISS, and the Shuttle for one more flight, your best source for data
is CelesTrak which does Keps, and only Keps, or Space Track.  All the major
tracking programs will do this for you, though you will need to insure they
are using the correct files.  It is a common problem, often discussed here,
and relatively simply addressed.  For one old program I use for special
purposes, I just cut and paste the new data if necessary.  

The Keps posted there are not really an integral part of the AMSAT web site,
but just a place where the data is provided for convenience.  I hope a bit
of historical perspective, and understanding what is going on behind the
scenes, helps.

73s,

Alan
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Behalf Of Kevin Deane
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:06 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS HRD


 
So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a good Digi
Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good info but not on
there keps download.
 
Probly will get fixed soon, just makin sure HRD users were on the same
page...
 
Kevin
KF7MYK
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread Nigel A. Gunn
Why do you expect Amsat to provide you with keps?
Do as most of us do and get them yourself directly from 
www.space-track.org  the people that generate them originally.

On 16/06/11 07:05, Kevin Deane wrote:
>
> So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a good Digi 
> Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good info but not on 
> there keps download.
>
> Probly will get fixed soon, just makin sure HRD users were on the same page...
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread i8cvs
- Original Message -
From: "Nigel A. Gunn" 
To: "Kevin Deane" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

> Why do you expect Amsat to provide you with keps?
> Do as most of us do and get them yourself directly from
> www.space-track.org  the people that generate them originally.
>
> On 16/06/11 07:05, Kevin Deane wrote:
> >
> > So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a good
Digi Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good info but
not on there keps download.
> >
> > Probly will get fixed soon, just makin sure HRD users were on the same
page...
> >
> > Kevin
> > KF7MYK
> >

Hi Kevin, KF7MYK

Traditionally AMSAT provided Equator Crossing  to the users since 40
years ago when they were sent on paper by letters to all AMSAT members.

Actually AMSAT via WA5QGD send keps by email to the users every week
from Fort Worth ,TX and in my opinion it is a nice and useful service.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 02:42 -0400, STeve Andre' wrote:

> > Several people (including) have offered to fix or rewrite the amsat.org
> > site, even for free.  Instead they're all too busy with their HEO
> > cargo-cult.
> >
> > Gordon MM0YEQ
> 
> Offer again, in public?  Like, here?
> 
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf  en72

Having done so and been rebuffed, I'm not inclined to do so again - even
if I had the time to do so.  Any time I spend on computery amateur radio
stuff is given over to writing some APRS software for Linux, an area
which is sadly lacking (although Windows isn't much better).

Gordon MM0YEQ

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF

From HRD Satellite Tracking, click Satellite
From the window that opens, click the Kepler Data tab
From it's gidgets, click Add File
From the box that pops up, select your elements file.
Tick the Enable box for that file and untick all others.
Click Download Now.

It should update your definitions from the kepler file.

Attached is my current file.


On 16-Jun-11 21:27, Kevin Deane wrote:


I was saying I dont know how to stick them in HRD it does it by itself and when 
I tried the celestrack or whatever it would not even run, so I dont know what 
to do.

Kevin
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:42:33 +0100
From: ni...@ngunn.net
To: summit...@live.com
CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS HRD

Why do you expect Amsat to provide you with keps?
Do as most of us do and get them yourself directly from
www.space-track.org the people that generate them originally.

On 16/06/11 07:05, Kevin Deane wrote:


So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a good Digi 
Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good info but not on 
there keps download.

Probly will get fixed soon, just makin sure HRD users were on the same page...

Kevin
KF7MYK

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825 5032
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International #385,
   Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS,  ALC, 
GCARES, XWARN, EAA382.

OSCAR 3
1 01293U 65016F   11166.71158909  .0256  0-0  19206-3 0  1084
2 01293 070.0703 036.7121 0019773 275.5038 084.3814 14.04909358362126
OSCAR 5
1 04321U 70008B   11166.13721682 -.0031  0-0  1-3 0  4871
2 04321 102.0743 199.6997 0027762 042.4125 317.9084 12.52162687891876
OSCAR 6
1 06236U 72082B   11166.51719807 -.0027  0-0  1-3 0  4785
2 06236 101.4106 160.5726 0003604 266.3670 093.6991 12.53085979768638
OSCAR 7
1 07530U 74089B   11166.55995472 -.0027 +0-0 +1-3 0 01068
2 07530 101.3915 173.1652 0011643 283.8202 076.1572 12.53582686673989
OSCAR 8
1 10703U 78026B   11166.54937371 -.0199  0-0 -10891-3 0  1892
2 10703 098.7373 191.2810 0006096 310.5077 049.5562 13.98890543697852
OSCAR 10
1 14129U 83058B   11165.73892452 -.0076  0-0  1-3 0  8712
2 14129 027.1184 031.4875 6025067 070.7897 342.7260 02.05868968182630
OSCAR 11 (UoSAT 2)
1 14781U 84021B   11166.71918911  .0180  0-0  30854-4 0  5751
2 14781 098.0064 223.4352 0009665 137.5923 222.6035 14.79983879465579
OSCAR 24
1 15936U 85066B   11166.20211528  .0062  0-0  1-3 0  3047
2 15936 090.0648 023.7880 0168155 257.0449 101.1868 13.35207547259972
JAS 1 (FUJI 1)
1 16909U 86061B   11166.18310478 -.0083  0-0  1-3 0  9067
2 16909 050.0154 083.8505 0010696 258.3105 101.6529 12.44455431129624
OSCAR 23
1 19070U 88033A   11166.92620406 +.0059 +0-0 +1-3 0 01061
2 19070 090.2754 203.6995 0191098 134.9461 226.7341 13.27154179120497
OSCAR 25
1 19419U 88074A   11166.94562961 +.0066 +0-0 +1-3 0 00951
2 19419 089.9412 026.2991 0094762 219.2554 140.1696 13.41860125116561
OSCAR 14 (UOSAT 3)
1 20437U 90005B   11166.83394918 +.0004 +0-0 +17605-4 0 05386
2 20437 098.4380 110.7823 0010797 165.3520 194.7972 14.31625593117308
OSCAR 15 (UOSAT 4)
1 20438U 90005C   11166.56334396 -.0003  0-0  15374-4 0   309
2 20438 098.4871 106.8714 0009335 203.2762 156.7999 14.30507021116608
OSCAR 16 (PACSAT)
1 20439U 90005D   11166.90401138 +.0066 +0-0 +40248-4 0 02091
2 20439 098.3844 116.5646 0010903 162.6148 197.5407 14.31924632117430
OSCAR 17 (DOVE)
1 20440U 90005E   11166.40008099  .0091  0-0  49322-4 0  9342
2 20440 098.3590 119.0065 0011041 156.5584 203.6102 14.32235994117521
OSCAR 18 (WEBERSAT)
1 20441U 90005F   11166.52441495  .0043  0-0  31584-4 0  4340
2 20441 098.3665 118.1499 0011610 161.5402 198.6202 14.31990866117454
OSCAR 19 (LUSAT)
1 20442U 90005G   11166.56450695  .0027  0-0  25688-4 0  1243
2 20442 098.3464 120.5949 0012051 157.4781 202.6932 14.32149897117562
JAS 1B (FUJI 2)
1 20480U 90013C   11166.46931801  .0032  0-0  15191-3 0  8077
2 20480 099.0338 319.9321 0540186 320.5004 035.7864 12.83369794   324
INFORMATOR 1
1 21087U 91006A   11166.55198793  .0003  0-0 -12482-4 0  9249
2 21087 082.9420 226.4784 0036746 053.5598 306.8937 13.75073184 22514
OSCAR 22 (UoSAT 5)
1 21575U 91050B   11166.93807067 +.0031 +0-0 +24076-4 0 01764
2 21575 098.5405 119.6838 0007622 005.2195 354.9068 14.39798030045567
KITSAT B
1 22825U 93061C   11

[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-17 Thread don
Hi Gordon,

Why bother with the rants if you feel so pissed?

I also liked the "old" amsat site but also realise things have moved on 
since then.
Way back (!) I used to get my keps from the scheds on 20 metres along 
with several other folk, we all used to pool our handwritten notes to 
get consensus on the probable keps.
  Then they were entered manually into a derivative of Tom Clark's 
"orbit" program, thanks to Phil ZL1PK, who had access to the work 
computer and then disseminated to other interested amateurs.
Sometimes by MAIL!.
Today I fire up SATpc and upload the latest keps, have a look at the 
track of the selected sat, look at the mutual visibility and decide if 
it's worth going on air.. Tragic really when I think that I used to 
listen for AO10 and then try to get onboard using all (really) home brew 
gear.

So I guess , is the amsat community about grid chasing, moaning about 
the HEO LEO FM APRS ISS DATA ETC satellites or about amateur 
experimentation on OUR frequencies using space based technology?

In any event I expect a heap of replies about the direction that some of 
the posters to this forum seem to be heading in.(hi Keith!)
In my opinion(!) the  majority of folk on the board are far more 
interested in chasing grids and complaining about the minutiae of 
operating a given sat instead of debating the real issues... like where 
or who is going to provide more space junk for us to (hopefully) 
experiment with. Notice I did not say grid chase, position finangle
systems, space relay systems, or any thing else All I would like to 
see is real debate and experimentation on AMSAT (as in real, and 
hypothetical future sats, as opposed to the present fixation on the lack 
of "x" satellites). As an old curmudgeon these topics exercise my 
limited mental capabilities but I would still like to see some 
intelligent discussion on at least some of of the crazy "I'm entitled to 
this (information) I see far too often on this board.
Get real: Search for it your selves...Google...Join your local club, get 
on air and ask, go to a local college and join there science class,
do some research at your local library...etc etc.
I really worry that the "amateur" service is going to vanish mainly due 
to "the we are entitled to it" mentality.
We aren't.
Don,
  ZL1THO
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS/TNC

2011-06-30 Thread Jim Jerzycke
On 06/30/2011 09:02 PM, Kevin Deane wrote:
> I finally get a TNC and get it working and they dont turn on the Digipeater 
> anymore...:(
>
> Kevin
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That's a bummer!

I've bounced APRS packets through it using my TH-D7 and a Diamond SRH77CA.

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Question?

2011-07-01 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:08:16 -0400
Stuart Balanger  wrote:

> *Hi All,
> I on a hunch,  (Sun.6/28) (& w/ my IsP down; & came back on Mon 6/29,
> had tuned my Kenwood-TM-255A down to 145.800MHz, & bet. 5:10 & 5:15PM
> (EDT; -4 UTC) I heard the unmistakable Packet signal, & was

The ISS ought to be on 145.825 for packet, unless they're doing something 
strange up there.

> wondering if that was the ISS, & the ant. used was a 2m horizontilly
> porerized
> home made Sqalo & the Packed sig. was "DFQ", & had no way to demodulate
> the Packet burst ?   was wondering if I was right?
> QTH is Poughkeepsie,NY (Grid sq. FN31)!

I don't know if there's any terrestrial APRS, or any other sort of 1200bps 
packet, but it's probably worth listening out for that to test your decoding.  
Receive levels are surprisingly uncritical, but if you can get access to a 
deviation meter or service monitor to set up the transmit levels you'll get on 
a lot better.

Round here (NW Scotland) APRS has undergone a sudden and massive resurgence of 
interest, and 144.800 is extremely busy.

Gordon MM0YEQ
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Question?

2011-07-01 Thread Mike Miller
They used to run packet on  VHF split 144.990 up and 145.800 
down so anything is possible. They may have left it on one of 
the unlisted uplinks or 145.800 simplex. Stuff happens.

Mike kc9doa


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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Keps

2011-10-05 Thread Mark L. Hammond
I'm only guessing--but---I bet that online tracker is using keps
updated daily (from Celestrak or SpaceTrack), while the posted keps
for downloading are only posted once a week or so.

Mark N8MH

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Kevin Deane  wrote:
>
> So here we are again, Amsat shows the ISS in the right spot but the keps it 
> gives out for automatic updates are around 6 minutes off again. I know about 
> the boosting and why they are off, just dont ubderstand WHY they are good on 
> the online tracker and not anything else?
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Keps

2011-10-05 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Kevin,

The NASA.ALL Keps are issued and updated weekly, normally Friday, as they
have been for literally decades.  The on line tracker widget gets Keps
directly, and so will be as up to date as Celestrak and Space Track.  Two
different systems, and purposes, which is why there is a difference.  

You will see a similar situation with ARISSat-1 as it slowly descends.
Which is a good chance to get another plug in for the Chicken Little
Contest.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA





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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Deane
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:33 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Keps


So here we are again, Amsat shows the ISS in the right spot but the keps it
gives out for automatic updates are around 6 minutes off again. I know about
the boosting and why they are off, just dont ubderstand WHY they are good on
the online tracker and not anything else?

Kevin
KF7MYK

  
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Keps

2011-10-06 Thread Tim Goodrich
I think there may be something more to this. You're saying celestrak keps
are as correct and up to date as the online tracker. However, both HRD and
SatPC were wrong for me last night and I know HRD uses celestrak keps, which
I know were less than 12 hours old, if not only a couple hours old. 

If it helps to decode this mystery, I know my friend running NOVA had the
correct info for the ISS pass last night. 

Tim
K6TW

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From: Alan P. Biddle [mailto:apbid...@united.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:00 PM
To: 'Kevin Deane'; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Keps

Kevin,

The NASA.ALL Keps are issued and updated weekly, normally Friday, as they
have been for literally decades.  The on line tracker widget gets Keps
directly, and so will be as up to date as Celestrak and Space Track.  Two
different systems, and purposes, which is why there is a difference.  

You will see a similar situation with ARISSat-1 as it slowly descends.
Which is a good chance to get another plug in for the Chicken Little
Contest.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA





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Behalf Of Kevin Deane
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:33 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Keps


So here we are again, Amsat shows the ISS in the right spot but the keps it
gives out for automatic updates are around 6 minutes off again. I know about
the boosting and why they are off, just dont ubderstand WHY they are good on
the online tracker and not anything else?

Kevin
KF7MYK

  
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Keps

2011-10-07 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Tim,

The font of all Keplerian knowledge, except for some of the satellites which
do not have their's published for security or other matters, is Space Track.
Space Track feeds Celestrak.  There can be a few hours lag as the updates
propogate through the systems, and software updates.  Usually no more than
6-8m hours.  Both SATPC32 and HRD used Celestrak Keps, but they can, and do,
use the NASA.ALL Keps.  It depends on how you have them configured.  No
mystery, really.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Goodrich
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:45 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Keps

I think there may be something more to this. You're saying celestrak keps
are as correct and up to date as the online tracker. However, both HRD and
SatPC were wrong for me last night and I know HRD uses celestrak keps, which
I know were less than 12 hours old, if not only a couple hours old. 

If it helps to decode this mystery, I know my friend running NOVA had the
correct info for the ISS pass last night. 

Tim
K6TW

-Original Message-
From: Alan P. Biddle [mailto:apbid...@united.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:00 PM
To: 'Kevin Deane'; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Keps

Kevin,

The NASA.ALL Keps are issued and updated weekly, normally Friday, as they
have been for literally decades.  The on line tracker widget gets Keps
directly, and so will be as up to date as Celestrak and Space Track.  Two
different systems, and purposes, which is why there is a difference.  

You will see a similar situation with ARISSat-1 as it slowly descends.
Which is a good chance to get another plug in for the Chicken Little
Contest.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA





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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Deane
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:33 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Keps


So here we are again, Amsat shows the ISS in the right spot but the keps it
gives out for automatic updates are around 6 minutes off again. I know about
the boosting and why they are off, just dont ubderstand WHY they are good on
the online tracker and not anything else?

Kevin
KF7MYK

  
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

2010-01-27 Thread Trevor .
--- On Wed, 27/1/10, Randy  wrote:
> Is the mode FM ?? 

Yes, receiver set to FM on 145.800 MHz and SSTV software (MMSSTV) set for Robot 
36. Mode changes to PD-160 on Thursday and Friday. 

How to access the ISS Slow Scan TV
http://www.marexmg.org/fileshtml/howtoitv.html 

http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2010/iss_sstv_today..htm 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  


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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

2010-01-27 Thread MM

All of the current amateur radio hardware is FM only.
SSTV from ISS is FM-5k, 145.800 downlink.
The Doppler on 2meters is small, so you do not really have to 
bother with Doppler.



http://www.marexmg.org/fileshtml/issimages.html


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> From: Randy 
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  ISS SSTV
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 7:55 AM
> Is the mode FM ??
> 
> Randy - N2CUA
> 
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

2010-01-27 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
What do you hear when you listen to it?
SSTV is easily recognisable by ar.

On 27-Jan-10 19:37, Randy wrote:

> Is it transmitting over the east coast of the US?
>

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

2010-01-27 Thread Randy
 OK .. I Stayed awake ( worked graveyard shift last nite ) listened and use
HRD to track and
Was using bad sat defs .. I changed the file used and updated that one
And it matches my other tracking software.
I showed ISS Due north of FN23 at 2011 UTC
And will be Due south at 2148 UTC 
I heard nothing on the 2011 UTC Pass .
Could they have stopped transmitting as it is getting darker outside here
now?

Randy - N2CUA

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF [mailto:ni...@ngunn.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:45 PM
To: rswa...@twcny.rr.com
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV

What do you hear when you listen to it?
SSTV is easily recognisable by ar.

On 27-Jan-10 19:37, Randy wrote:

> Is it transmitting over the east coast of the US?
>

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

2010-01-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:44 AM 1/28/2010, you wrote:
>What do you hear when you listen to it?
>SSTV is easily recognisable by ar.

Yes, it has been described as a "demented monster canary", which is a 
rather accurate description of the SSTV sounds. ;)  Best way to find 
out is install some SSTV software (MMSSTV is good and free), and 
"transmit" SSTV using your speakers. :)

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

2010-01-27 Thread Randy
OH ok .. I will try again tomorrow not that I have the keps fixed.
Thanks all .. 

Randy - N2CUA 

-Original Message-
From: David Barber [mailto:david.bar...@dbelectronics.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:42 PM
To: rswa...@twcny.rr.com
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

The published schedule is 09.00 - 14.00UTC so they are unlikely to be on
outside these times.

David
G8OQW

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Behalf Of Randy
Sent: 27 January 2010 20:25
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

 OK .. I Stayed awake ( worked graveyard shift last nite ) listened and use
HRD to track and Was using bad sat defs .. I changed the file used and
updated that one And it matches my other tracking software.
I showed ISS Due north of FN23 at 2011 UTC And will be Due south at 2148 UTC
I heard nothing on the 2011 UTC Pass .
Could they have stopped transmitting as it is getting darker outside here
now?

Randy - N2CUA



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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV

2010-01-27 Thread MM


The VCH1 runs on Batteries:

The VCH1 Communicator is a microphone with a camera, that plugs into the 
Kenwood TM-D700 transceiver.  The camera requires four (4) AA batteries.  

Without batteries the camera will not run.

The VCH1 will consume a full set of 4-batteries in 4-8 hours.. 



--- On Wed, 1/27/10, Randy  wrote:

> From: Randy 
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 3:24 PM
>  OK .. I Stayed awake ( worked
> graveyard shift last nite ) listened and use
> HRD to track and
> Was using bad sat defs .. I changed the file used and
> updated that one
> And it matches my other tracking software.
> I showed ISS Due north of FN23 at 2011 UTC
> And will be Due south at 2148 UTC 
> I heard nothing on the 2011 UTC Pass .
> Could they have stopped transmitting as it is getting
> darker outside here
> now?
> 
> Randy - N2CUA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF [mailto:ni...@ngunn.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:45 PM
> To: rswa...@twcny.rr.com
> Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV
> 
> What do you hear when you listen to it?
> SSTV is easily recognisable by ar.
> 
> On 27-Jan-10 19:37, Randy wrote:
> 
> > Is it transmitting over the east coast of the US?
> >
> 
> --
> Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH
> 45385-1115, USA.  tel +1 937
> 825 5032
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail ni...@ngunn.net 
>      www
> http://www.ngunn.net
> Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC
> #548,  Flying Pigs QRP
> Club International #385,
>             Dayton ARA #2128,
> AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS,  ALC,
> GCARES, XWARN.
> 
> 
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS INFO

2010-07-13 Thread Dee
 Nick,
I really don't remember what they sent back in the large envelope. After you
asked, I searched for the QSL I received sometime ago to see if anything
else was with it-a certificate or something.  Just have the QSL's so I can't
answer the question.
I was part of a team that did a space shuttle QSL'ing and we sent out the
QSL only. It was a pleasure to read all the cards and see everything that
was sent to the Astronauts.  I was amazed at how many contacts the SS made
as they sent a list for us to verify them by and only about 1/3 of the QSO's
requested a QSL.  It seems to me that if you talk to an astronaut, you would
want to display a QSL in the shack for such an accomplishment.
All the cards were forwarded to NASA in Houston to the Astronauts that
actually performed the QSO's in Space.  They wrote back and sent a great
poster to the team as a reward for volunteering to do the QSL's.
That's why I explained that the whole process takes time.  Many people
involved and my hat is off to those volunteers that make us happy.
73,
Dee

-Original Message-
From: Daniel "Nick" Kucij [mailto:dnku...@myfairpoint.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:19 PM
To: n...@amsat.org
Subject: ISS INFO

Hi Dee,

I was fortunate to get a QSO with the ISS the other evening. I saw your post
about QSLs on the Amsat BB.

Just how large an envelope is needed? IRCs cost at least $2.10, so would $4
in postage be needed?

What do they send you along with a QSL card?

Thanks,

73
Nick
KB1RVT




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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS INFO

2010-07-13 Thread Rick - WA4NVM
Nick,

I read the post earlier about the two IRC's.  I think that went back to the
25th Anniversary Award we got back in Nov. 2008 - Jan. 2009.  The
QSL cards my wife and I got in the past just took an regular SASE.
I hope this helps.

73 all,

Rick WA4NVM


> Nick,
> I really don't remember what they sent back in the large envelope. After 
> you
> asked, I searched for the QSL I received sometime ago to see if anything
> else was with it-a certificate or something.  Just have the QSL's so I 
> can't
> answer the question.
> I was part of a team that did a space shuttle QSL'ing and we sent out the
> QSL only. It was a pleasure to read all the cards and see everything that
> was sent to the Astronauts.  I was amazed at how many contacts the SS made
> as they sent a list for us to verify them by and only about 1/3 of the 
> QSO's
> requested a QSL.  It seems to me that if you talk to an astronaut, you 
> would
> want to display a QSL in the shack for such an accomplishment.
> All the cards were forwarded to NASA in Houston to the Astronauts that
> actually performed the QSO's in Space.  They wrote back and sent a great
> poster to the team as a reward for volunteering to do the QSL's.
> That's why I explained that the whole process takes time.  Many people
> involved and my hat is off to those volunteers that make us happy.
> 73,
> Dee
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel "Nick" Kucij [mailto:dnku...@myfairpoint.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:19 PM
> To: n...@amsat.org
> Subject: ISS INFO
>
> Hi Dee,
>
> I was fortunate to get a QSO with the ISS the other evening. I saw your 
> post
> about QSLs on the Amsat BB.
>
> Just how large an envelope is needed? IRCs cost at least $2.10, so would 
> $4
> in postage be needed?
>
> What do they send you along with a QSL card?
>
> Thanks,
>
> 73
> Nick
> KB1RVT
>
>
>
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Question?

2010-08-12 Thread Dave Taylor
The crew is still working on the cooling problem, so the radio has  
been off a lot for EVAs.  I believe it's on again now, but don't know  
what the status was during the pass you mention.  In any case, you  
wouldn't have heard anything because you were on the wrong frequency  
-- the radio is in packet mode and the downlink for that is 145.825.

ISS Fan Club (http://www.issfanclub.com) is a good place to track  
status of the ISS radios.

-- Dave, W8AAS


On Aug 12, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Stuart Balanger wrote:

> *Hi all,
> I tuned to 145.8MHz. abt. 8:20 to abt 8:50AM this AM's Pass & I didn't
> notice  any
> reduction in Sqelch noise, & was wondering if the work is still  
> being done
> to fix the problems?
> I got butten by the "Space Bug" when I was listening to a School  
> Contact
> (Feb. of 2009),
> when I was home sick w/ the Flu!
>73,.de,. Stu WA2BSS
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2010-09-20 Thread Pughkeithd
In a message dated 9/20/2010 6:56:13 PM Central Daylight Time, 
gerhardst...@montana.com writes: 
> Subj: [amsat-bb] ISS keps 
> Date:9/20/2010 6:56:13 PM Central Daylight Time
> From:gerhardst...@montana.com
> To:amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Received from Internet: 
> 
> 
> 
>   Is there a special or alternate keps for ISS?  Today I listened to 
> NA1SS and when Col. Doug reported a QTH of North Dakota, my SatPC32 was 
> displaying them at about Indiana.  Still was able to copy them over my 
> 12 degree hill when SatPC32 was reporting them over the Atlantic coast 
> line.  I had just done an update.
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Try the set below that was just downloaded from Space Track; however, they 
produce basically the same results as the set in the AMSAT Distribution that 
was posted on 19 Sept.  There was a re-boost done on 15 Sept.  Any set 
older than that will produce bad results.

ISS
1 25544U 98067A   10264.02544243  .00014275  0-0  11508-3 0  9264
2 25544 051.6454 100.2658 0006751 019.2600 117.8109 15.71172316678547

73 - Keith, W5IU
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2010-09-21 Thread Dave Taylor
I noticed that over the weekend.  He reported being over the junction  
of Lakes Huron and Erie, when the tracking program showed him over the  
east coast.  I think he's just looking out the window at an angle  
rather than straight down.


Dave Taylor, W8AAS
ARISS team member
AMSAT #8974

On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:44 PM, Larry Gerhardstein wrote:

>  Is there a special or alternate keps for ISS?  Today I listened to
> NA1SS and when Col. Doug reported a QTH of North Dakota, my SatPC32  
> was
> displaying them at about Indiana.  Still was able to copy them over my
> 12 degree hill when SatPC32 was reporting them over the Atlantic coast
> line.  I had just done an update.
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2010-09-21 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
  Dave, Trouble is, I could still hear them when ISS had dropped behind 
my hill and also when the footprint was way beyond my QTH.  When I go 
back out to my radio barn, I'll check my time sync.  ~Larry

On 9/21/2010 5:10 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> I noticed that over the weekend.  He reported being over the junction
> of Lakes Huron and Erie, when the tracking program showed him over the
> east coast.  I think he's just looking out the window at an angle
> rather than straight down.
>
>
> Dave Taylor, W8AAS
> ARISS team member
> AMSAT #8974
>

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2010-09-21 Thread Zachary Beougher
I had this same issue with Orbitron a couple weeks ago.  I was getting my 
kep updates from celestrak.com, then I switched to stoff.pl and it is 
working fine.

73!

Zack
KD8KSN

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Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 7:44 PM
To: 
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ISS keps

>  Is there a special or alternate keps for ISS?  Today I listened to
> NA1SS and when Col. Doug reported a QTH of North Dakota, my SatPC32 was
> displaying them at about Indiana.  Still was able to copy them over my
> 12 degree hill when SatPC32 was reporting them over the Atlantic coast
> line.  I had just done an update.
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2010-09-22 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
I checked against http://iss.astroviewer.net/.  Today issue is better, 
however, still actual ISS posn about 100 miles ahead of SatPC32's 
displayed posn.  My computer clock is off by no more than 1 second.  For 
the clock to throw posn off by 100 miles, clock would need to be in 
error by about 15 seconds.


Larry W7IN

On 9/20/2010 5:44 PM, Larry Gerhardstein wrote:

   Is there a special or alternate keps for ISS?  Today I listened to
NA1SS and when Col. Doug reported a QTH of North Dakota, my SatPC32 was
displaying them at about Indiana.  Still was able to copy them over my
12 degree hill when SatPC32 was reporting them over the Atlantic coast
line.  I had just done an update.
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2010-09-22 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi!

> I checked against http://iss.astroviewer.net/.  Today issue is better,
> however, still actual ISS posn about 100 miles ahead of SatPC32's displayed
> posn.  My computer clock is off by no more than 1 second.  For the clock to
> throw posn off by 100 miles, clock would need to be in error by about 15
> seconds.

Just create an account at http://www.space-track.org/ and download the keps
from there.  I just logged into Space Track, and they have an ISS element
set that was updated at approximately 2053 UTC today (not long before I sent
this message).

Regardless of the freshness of the elements, it sometimes takes a
little bit before
after the ISS has a boost raising its orbit to where the keps are back
to being on
the mark.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2010-09-22 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
(after seeing weirdness in the message I sent, I will try it again so it looks
better)

> I checked against http://iss.astroviewer.net/.  Today issue is better,
> however, still actual ISS posn about 100 miles ahead of SatPC32's displayed
> posn.  My computer clock is off by no more than 1 second.  For the clock to
> throw posn off by 100 miles, clock would need to be in error by about 15
> seconds.

Just create an account at http://www.space-track.org/ and download the keps
from there.  I just logged into Space Track, and they have an ISS element
set that was updated at approximately 2053 UTC today (not long before I sent
this message).

Regardless of the freshness of the elements, it sometimes takes a little
bit after the ISS has a boost raising its orbit to where the keps are back
to being on the mark.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2010-09-23 Thread Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]
The ISS did some thruster tests recently. That could account for the 
difference. ISS is a dynamic satellite. It has minor and major changes to its 
orbit and the "predicts" are sometime a bit behind the actual until things fall 
into a more stable state and get updated. I expect the numbers will be off 
again after the Soyuz undock today (tomorrow UTC).

Kenneth - N5VHO


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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf 
Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:18 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

(after seeing weirdness in the message I sent, I will try it again so it looks
better)

> I checked against http://iss.astroviewer.net/.  Today issue is better,
> however, still actual ISS posn about 100 miles ahead of SatPC32's displayed
> posn.  My computer clock is off by no more than 1 second.  For the clock to
> throw posn off by 100 miles, clock would need to be in error by about 15
> seconds.

Just create an account at http://www.space-track.org/ and download the keps
from there.  I just logged into Space Track, and they have an ISS element
set that was updated at approximately 2053 UTC today (not long before I sent
this message).

Regardless of the freshness of the elements, it sometimes takes a little
bit after the ISS has a boost raising its orbit to where the keps are back
to being on the mark.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS visable

2011-01-02 Thread Jim Jerzycke

It's pouring here in Long Beach, so no joy trying to see it again tonight!
73, Jim  KQ6EA

On 01/03/2011 01:53 AM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>
> Happy New Year 
>
> I just watched the ISS pass over Seattle.  Always glad to help!  I was 
> watching my satellite array track the ISS and noticed how "jerky" it is every 
> time it increments.  I have a 5400 az/el with LVB tracker.  Made me wonder if 
> I could get more life out of the rotors if there were a "soft start" of sorts 
> for the rotors.  The bouncing back and forth with each adjustment  made me 
> think the gears are getting a workout. 
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD 
>
> Seattle 
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS visable

2011-01-03 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
My 5500 az/el does the same thing.

Larry W7IN

On 1/2/2011 6:53 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>
> Happy New Year
>
> I just watched the ISS pass over Seattle.  Always glad to help!  I was 
> watching my satellite array track the ISS and noticed how "jerky" it is every 
> time it increments.  I have a 5400 az/el with LVB tracker.  Made me wonder if 
> I could get more life out of the rotors if there were a "soft start" of sorts 
> for the rotors.  The bouncing back and forth with each adjustment  made me 
> think the gears are getting a workout.
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Seattle
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS visable

2011-01-03 Thread Jim Jerzycke
What tracking program are you running? I know in the "Rotor Setup" of
SatPC32 there are parameters that you can adjust that will 'smooth out'
a lot of the start/stop jerkiness. You can command the rotor to move at
specified time intervals, or when the tracked object changes position by
an adjustable number of degrees.
You also have to consider the pattern of your antenna. If the 3dB points
of your antenna are 30*, it makes _no_ sense to move them every 5*. The
first time I ran a PC controlled Az/El setup I was using one of the
"Ultimate Charger" controllers, and I didn't think to 'open up' the
dead-band setting. I thought the antennas were going to shake themselves
(and the tower!) apart.
I don't recall the settings I'm using with SatPC32 and my Fox Delta LVB
'clone', but it tracks very smoothly. with little antenna shake.
Jim  KQ6EA

On 01/04/2011 01:00 AM, Larry Gerhardstein wrote:
> My 5500 az/el does the same thing.
>
> Larry W7IN
>
> On 1/2/2011 6:53 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>   
>> Happy New Year
>>
>> I just watched the ISS pass over Seattle.  Always glad to help!  I was 
>> watching my satellite array track the ISS and noticed how "jerky" it is 
>> every time it increments.  I have a 5400 az/el with LVB tracker.  Made me 
>> wonder if I could get more life out of the rotors if there were a "soft 
>> start" of sorts for the rotors.  The bouncing back and forth with each 
>> adjustment  made me think the gears are getting a workout.
>>
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>>
>> Seattle
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS visable

2011-01-04 Thread John Floyd
I have the same set-up and problem. I haven't tried it yet but a wise and 
trusted friend told me the issue was a saggy power supply in the controller. 
When the motors were running there was less voltage to the end of the pot for 
position information and when the motors stop more voltage and bang position 
error that needs to be corrected. motors back on etc.   He suggested large 
electrolytics on the dc rail and smaller caps on the position voltage. all 
external to the controller so easy to try but too busy to play right now. 
Another alternative was additional voltage regulation on the ends of the pots.  
If it works please let me know.
John
KN4GE

From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] on behalf of Jim 
Jerzycke [kq...@verizon.net]
Sent: 04 January 2011 00:03
To: gerhardst...@montana.com
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS visable

What tracking program are you running? I know in the "Rotor Setup" of
SatPC32 there are parameters that you can adjust that will 'smooth out'
a lot of the start/stop jerkiness. You can command the rotor to move at
specified time intervals, or when the tracked object changes position by
an adjustable number of degrees.
You also have to consider the pattern of your antenna. If the 3dB points
of your antenna are 30*, it makes _no_ sense to move them every 5*. The
first time I ran a PC controlled Az/El setup I was using one of the
"Ultimate Charger" controllers, and I didn't think to 'open up' the
dead-band setting. I thought the antennas were going to shake themselves
(and the tower!) apart.
I don't recall the settings I'm using with SatPC32 and my Fox Delta LVB
'clone', but it tracks very smoothly. with little antenna shake.
Jim  KQ6EA

On 01/04/2011 01:00 AM, Larry Gerhardstein wrote:
> My 5500 az/el does the same thing.
>
> Larry W7IN
>
> On 1/2/2011 6:53 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year
>>
>> I just watched the ISS pass over Seattle.  Always glad to help!  I was 
>> watching my satellite array track the ISS and noticed how "jerky" it is 
>> every time it increments.  I have a 5400 az/el with LVB tracker.  Made me 
>> wonder if I could get more life out of the rotors if there were a "soft 
>> start" of sorts for the rotors.  The bouncing back and forth with each 
>> adjustment  made me think the gears are getting a workout.
>>
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>>
>> Seattle
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS path

2011-01-12 Thread Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]
ARISS is the best since it will work in all modes but RS0ISS-4 will work if the 
radio on the ISS is in PKT mode.

Kenneth - N5VHO


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Of Andrew Rich
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:51 AM
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Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS path

What is the ISS path ?

I just tried 

SGATE
SGATE,WIDE
RS0ISS-4 

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS APRS

2011-11-25 Thread P.H.
Hi Jeff

Not this time, but I have heard it before.

73

Pete
Mi0VAX

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jeff Welsh  wrote:
> Happy Turkey-Day everyone,
>
> Did anyone hear what appears to be a dead carrier on the ISS APRS frequency
> on this mornings pass over the US?
> I moved the antenna off of it and static returned. It didn't appear to be
> local to me.
>
> --jeff
> N3QO
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Packet

2011-11-25 Thread Roger

Simplex?

On 11/25/2011 7:18 PM, jerry keeton wrote:

The active ISS Packet is on 437.550 MHZ. Not much activity as yet . I copied it 
on a couple passes.

Jerry WB5LHD
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS BBS

2011-12-20 Thread Clayton Coleman W5PFG
It is annoying when someone connects to the ISS mailbox during a
"prime time" pass.  If it's the middle of the night when it's passing
by us, that's usually no big deal because very few "live" stations are
at the keyboard.  My personal rule is I don't connect to the mailbox
inside the hours of 0600-2300 and if I see any stations actively
sending out CQ.

Secondly, it is even more annoying when someone connects to the
mailbox and they can't keep a connection, usually because they are
running some multi-band or high-gain vertical with too many nulls to
actually keep a connected packet session established.  I see it a lot,
Kevin, but just deal with it I can tell when this is happening
just by the sound of the packets.  Once I start hearing a certain
pattern, I know the pass is likely shot for having any real contacts.

Regarding an unpublished email address, if you want to contact the
"offending" station, we have this thing called a call book or FCC
database that typically offers a station or mailing address for the
individual.  An old fashioned letter or QSL with a note works wonders.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Kevin Deane  wrote:
>
> The ISS Maildrop is great for people in low population areas. I found out the 
> hard way about using it in the US. Now I and others on the west coast are 
> suffering because a certain someone keeps logging in EVERY pass and is not 
> even holding the connection. The email address is no good on QRZ. ARRGG!!!
>
> Anyway it still is fun to make Qso's on the Digi just thought since there are 
> not as many birds up there to play with there might be more activity on the 
> ISS. Have not heard much on FO-69? Are people workin that? My radio is in the 
> shop so I have been off the air and only have a 5watt deaf dualbander... :(
>
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS keps

2014-04-25 Thread Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL

At 01:19 PM 4/25/2014 +0400, "jean paul"  wrote:

Hello

For many and many years I receive the keps from Ray Hoad  to update my IT .I
just look ISS keps are not the week .

How to get these one..?

Best regards from FR5CY


I just update my IT from the latest keps, ISS was updated.  Maybe
you have it listed as Zarya?

KB7ADL

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[amsat-bb] Re: iss 9k6 today?

2009-05-22 Thread Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]
Not sure about your report source. www.ariss.net seems to be showing a lot of 
activity and I don't think there are that many 9600 baud IGATES that would be 
capturing that much data. Likely still at 1200 baud. As for the digi ID, it 
changes from time to time but if you use the recommended alias of ARISS then it 
won't matter which ID is currently operational.

Kenneth - N5VHO
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Of Mr Jeffrey L Ross
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:58 AM
To: amsat
Subject: [amsat-bb] iss 9k6 today?

hi folks, in the latest sat report 141 they are reporting that the ISS
downlink/uplink is 9k6. is this true, see they did just change the digi to
rs0iss-3. it was rs0iss-4.
I hit it the other day at 1k2 (1200baud) kc8gkf-5

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[amsat-bb] Re: iss 9k6 today?

2009-05-22 Thread David - KG4ZLB
Its 1200 baud, that was a typo!

-- 
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Mr Jeffrey L Ross wrote:
> hi folks, in the latest sat report 141 they are reporting that the ISS 
> downlink/uplink is 9k6. is this true, see they did just change the digi to 
> rs0iss-3. it was rs0iss-4.
> I hit it the other day at 1k2 (1200baud) kc8gkf-5
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[amsat-bb] Re: iss 9k6 today?

2009-05-22 Thread David Barber
On 1200 (145.825MHZ) over UK @ 18.40utc.

David
G8OQW


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Behalf Of David - KG4ZLB
Sent: 22 May 2009 18:20
To: Mr Jeffrey L Ross
Cc: amsat
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iss 9k6 today?

Its 1200 baud, that was a typo!

-- 
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KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com




Mr Jeffrey L Ross wrote:
> hi folks, in the latest sat report 141 they are reporting that the ISS 
> downlink/uplink is 9k6. is this true, see they did just change the digi to

> rs0iss-3. it was rs0iss-4.
> I hit it the other day at 1k2 (1200baud) kc8gkf-5
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[amsat-bb] Re: iss 9k6 today?

2009-05-22 Thread Dave Aitch

Yes, it was on 1200 baud, just, honest Dave (KG4ZLB)

Dave.

Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iss 9k6 today?

On 1200 (145.825MHZ) over UK @ 18.40utc.

David
G8OQW


Behalf Of David - KG4ZLB
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iss 9k6 today?

Its 1200 baud, that was a typo!

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Deception Reports

2011-04-12 Thread Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL
At 07:26 AM 4/12/2011 -0700, you wrote:
> >> ... I am curious why we need 100 reports that a signal was not heard?
>
>Because some of us are damned excited with this project ... It is also 
>good to let others know that their setups are not necessarily improper - 
>that those who "think" they know what they are doing are not hearing it 
>right now.
>
>And besides - how many "50th anniversaries of man orbiting the Earth" can 
>one celebrate in one's lifetime?
>
>Clint, K6LCS



What would be really neat is to be anxiously awaiting the signals from a 
new HEO.

KB7ADL

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Deception Reports

2011-04-12 Thread Dee
 

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Behalf Of Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:07 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Deception Reports

At 07:26 AM 4/12/2011 -0700, you wrote:
> >> ... I am curious why we need 100 reports that a signal was not heard?
>
>Because some of us are damned excited with this project ... It is also 
>good to let others know that their setups are not necessarily improper 
>- that those who "think" they know what they are doing are not hearing 
>it right now.
>
>And besides - how many "50th anniversaries of man orbiting the Earth" 
>can one celebrate in one's lifetime?
>
>Clint, K6LCS



What would be really neat is to be anxiously awaiting the signals from a new
HEO.

KB7ADL


Now this would be an accomplishment. Hi!  Hi!   
Next ISS Pass here in NJ is 01:55 UTC - Listening too!
73,
Dee, NB2F

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Deception Reports

2011-04-12 Thread KM9U
An HEO would really be neat and we can make it happen! Every time we go to a 
satellite related web page (like www.papays.com/sat/general.html) and see 
that that little box titled "AMSAST-NA ARISSat-1 and FOX fund", just click 
on the "Give button and throw them your loose change. I'm sure  little can 
mean a lot towards getting a bird in the air!

Chuck, KM9U


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To: "'Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL'" ; 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 16:28
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Deception Reports


>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
> Behalf Of Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:07 PM
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Deception Reports
>
> At 07:26 AM 4/12/2011 -0700, you wrote:
>> >> ... I am curious why we need 100 reports that a signal was not heard?
>>
>>Because some of us are damned excited with this project ... It is also
>>good to let others know that their setups are not necessarily improper
>>- that those who "think" they know what they are doing are not hearing
>>it right now.
>>
>>And besides - how many "50th anniversaries of man orbiting the Earth"
>>can one celebrate in one's lifetime?
>>
>>Clint, K6LCS
>
>
>
> What would be really neat is to be anxiously awaiting the signals from a 
> new
> HEO.
>
> KB7ADL
>
>
> Now this would be an accomplishment. Hi!  Hi!
> Next ISS Pass here in NJ is 01:55 UTC - Listening too!
> 73,
> Dee, NB2F
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS orbit reboosted

2011-05-07 Thread Rick Tejera
That may explain why last night I showed an 88 degree pass for tonight, that 
now shows as 66 degrees

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Rick Tejera
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Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
K7TEJ

On May 7, 2011, at 7:56, "Alan P. Biddle"  wrote:

> According to various sources, the ISS orbit was raised 1 km Thursday.  This
> will result in a "slippage" of the old Kep's predictions of about 20 seconds
> per day.  So make certain your Keps are up to date.  The Celestrak updates
> used by most tracking programs look good.
> 
> 73s,
> 
> Alan
> WA4SCA
> 
> 
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS digi QSO

2011-06-07 Thread Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]
ISS is just like any other satellite when it is operating in a relay mode such 
as the packet digi or voice repeater. Make your standard exchange of 
information necessary to confirm a contact.

Kenneth - N5VHO


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Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digi QSO

What requirements are there for a valid QSO over the ISS digi?  Is it the same 
as AO-51 where it is just an exchange of callsign and grid?  Can it be done 
through the Comment text of an APRS HT like the VX8GR or THD72?  Or is a tnc 
needed or software like UISS?
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board

2011-07-24 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 05:07:16 -0700
Kevin Deane  wrote:

> 
> Good morning Jeremy, saw your message but she fell out of veiw...Thanks 
> KG6NUG for the cool flag that came up on my end anyway!!
>  
> Glad to see active people and not BEACONS using the ISS Digi. Dont get me 
> wrong, they serve their purpose...

The problem is that when you use the packet BBS on the ISS, it stops 
digipeating packets for anyone else.  So, for that entire pass, you're the only 
person who can work the ISS.

Don't be selfish.

-- 
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board

2011-07-25 Thread Ted
Curious..

If Gordon (always ready with a cheerful comment) is accurate, then what is
the purpose of the BBS? Also, Kevin is far from 'selfish'...he is just using
the available resources. Helpful education is far more useful than lame name
calling, Gordon.

Ted, K7TRK

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Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:46 AM
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 05:07:16 -0700
Kevin Deane  wrote:

> 
> Good morning Jeremy, saw your message but she fell out of veiw...Thanks
KG6NUG for the cool flag that came up on my end anyway!!
>  
> Glad to see active people and not BEACONS using the ISS Digi. Dont get me
wrong, they serve their purpose...

The problem is that when you use the packet BBS on the ISS, it stops
digipeating packets for anyone else.  So, for that entire pass, you're the
only person who can work the ISS.

Don't be selfish.

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board

2011-07-25 Thread Bob Bruninga
> If Gordon ... is accurate, then what is 
> the purpose of the BBS?

None practically.  It is the most inefficient AX.25 packet arrangement
possible.  

AX.25 connected packet depends on line-by-line ACKS.  This works on a
two-way balanced link when both stations hear each other reliably and
without interference.  But the Earth to ISS path is anything but balanced.
It is solid ISS to earth, but the other way is probably 10% if that much.
Thus, for each packet delivered, there are 10 RETRIES or more than 20
packets on channel to deliver EACH LINE.

But it is even worse than that.  The ISS uses AX25V2L2 which means it does
not even send a RETRY without first sending a "what was your last heard line
number" packet.  SO it will not even retry a single line until TWO more
packets have been exchanged.  Now multiply that by the 10% channel
performance and it might take 20, 30 or 40 packets to deliver just ONE LINE.

That is why if someone logs onto the BBS, that the pass is more or less
wasted.  The logee never gets a successful download due to all the
bazillions of inefficient overhead, and no one else gets to make any
digipeated contacts either.

Just listen to a BBS pass, and its wall to wall packets, but only a line or
two are actually delivered in most cases. The only true use of the BBS is
possible if the ground station is using a few kilowatts of ERP to make sure
that there are no missing ACKS!

Something like that,

Bob, WB4APR

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board

2011-07-25 Thread Diane Bruce
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:43:03PM -0700, Ted wrote:
> Curious..
> 
> If Gordon (always ready with a cheerful comment) is accurate, then what is
> the purpose of the BBS? Also, Kevin is far from 'selfish'...he is just using

The BBS is a side effect of the commercial equipment (Kenwood) they took
up there.  Many of us do think it should be disabled.  

> the available resources. Helpful education is far more useful than lame name

It's the way Gordon is, he's a nice chap online (on IRC). Don't take it 
the wrong way. The pair of you should go have a beer together or something.
He's just a typical dour direct Scot, but he will drink you under the table. ;-)

- 73 Diane VA3DB
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board

2011-07-26 Thread Ng, Peter
>>...he is just using the available resources. 

I too thought the amateur digital radio equipment on ISS are resources we all 
can use.  I'm sure all of us would not knowingly hog it up for our own 
benifitI mean, what's the point, right?  I agree with Bob in that using the 
BBS is so resource intensive.  With digi (non BBS) you get immediate responses 
and does not clog up traffic. I've used the ISS digi on occasion and it's 
satisfying to receive a short message back right away.  I thought it was very 
similar to a FM voice contact, but chat room style!   Have a great day folks!

73's Peter VE7NGP
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board

2011-07-26 Thread John Becker
At 12:21 PM 7/26/2011, you wrote:
>>>...he is just using the available resources. 
>I too thought the amateur digital radio equipment on ISS are resources we all 
>can use.  I'm sure all of us would not knowingly hog it up for our own 
>benifit...


Me too but I'm a bit confused for what.

Some seem to use it to post that APRS location
Others (who seem to be limited to VHF & UHF) are 
trying way way to hard to work DX.

I may be wrong but they are the reason I have given up completely
on it.

John, W0JAB


John, W0JAB

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board,

2011-07-27 Thread Nader Omer
Hi
 
It was so interesting to work ISS BBS over Africa :)   ( Only You )
 
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200901/msg00853.html
 
More interest than ISS  was AO-51 9k6 Pacsat mode . I really miss it.
http://www.st2nh.com/photos
 
 
73's Nader
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board

2011-07-27 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 19:30:50 -0400
Diane Bruce  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:43:03PM -0700, Ted wrote:
> > Curious..
> > 
> > If Gordon (always ready with a cheerful comment) is accurate, then what is
> > the purpose of the BBS? Also, Kevin is far from 'selfish'...he is just using
> 
> The BBS is a side effect of the commercial equipment (Kenwood) they took
> up there.  Many of us do think it should be disabled.  

Time for a quick description, for those who may be less familiar with how 
packet BBSes work.

Many of us are running packet radio BBSes or even just mailboxes, on modern 
computing hardware.  Now this hardware with 16- and 32-bit processors running 
at clock speeds of over 100MHz, up to a megabyte or even more of RAM and maybe 
as much as a couple of gigabytes (that's 1024 megabytes) of mass storage is 
often capable of handling many simultaneous connections.  Users can send 
messages to each other directly or via mailboxes, while other users are 
simultaneously reading messages or browsing saved bulletins - perhaps as many 
as eight users at once!

By comparison, the 8-bit 4MHz microprocessors used in most normal TNCs can 
really only cope with a single connection at a time.  Once someone is in 
connected mode, everything else gets rejected.  Some of the more modern TNCs 
can accept very large amounts of RAM (the KPC-3 can have 32 kilobytes), but 
most have much less than that.  The TNCs built into radios tend to be fairly 
simpleminded beasts, with crude firmware and very little RAM for storing 
messages and connections.

The UI packets, on the other hand, are merely received and, if they are valid, 
repeated (almost verbatim) a moment later.  There is a slight modification to 
the header to indicate that they've been through a digipeater, but the message 
content remains unmodified.  Since the TNC has no need to track any state for 
these packets - UI is not a connected mode - then it can handle digipeating 
packets for any stations it can hear.

> > the available resources. Helpful education is far more useful than lame name
> 
> It's the way Gordon is, he's a nice chap online (on IRC). Don't take it 
> the wrong way. The pair of you should go have a beer together or something.
> He's just a typical dour direct Scot, but he will drink you under the table. 
> ;-)

Thanks, that's the nicest thing anyone's said all day.

-- 
Gordon JC Pearce 
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS School QSO

2011-08-18 Thread Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BARRIOS TECHNOLOGY]
James,
No ham event scheduled for Aug. 18. There was one on Aug 16 over Japan and the 
next one is Aug 25 with Germany via LU8YY in Argentina.

Are you referring to the following educational video downlink posting?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/10day/msg89701.html


Kenneth - N5VHO

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Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS School QSO

I am portable in Alabama and do not have access to my past e-mail.  A post a 
day or so ago had information about a school that had a scheduled QSO with the 
ISS on August 18.  I am at a camp in Alabama and would love to at least monitor 
the conversation coming from the ISS.  Would someone repost the info or contact 
me directly with a copy of the post.

73,
James
W5AOO
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