[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Sorry to disappoint you. At this point AMSAT-DL has not been able to secure any funding to secure a launch (not even from their own government) and the rant against cubesats at the UK colloquium by has only hurt them even more. Unless this community learns to work together and sees the benefits in all satellite programs and supports each other, we are only hurting ourselves. Why is so difficult to understand? Stefn, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:11 PM, i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it wrote: Hi Bruce,KK5DO AMSAT-DL is working very hard on P3-E and P5-A and in the near future they will be able to launch P3-E Work on P3-E is continuing and AMSAT-DL is busy looking for launch possibilities and other ways for financing it, i.e. on coat-tails of the P5 Mars Mission. Indeed, P3-E is not a dream but a reality and AMSAT-DL need the support of the community. There will only a P3-E, if we all really want it.. If you want to support P3-E, than please visit http://www.p3e-satellite.org/?lang=en_EN and make a direct donation to the project - THANKS! 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Bruce kk...@amsat.org To: i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website. http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it. if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and they will construct a heo for you to launch. otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not without a lot of money. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it wrote: Hi Peter,NH6VB I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time. Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot. Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me. 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Stefan Wagener wagen...@gmail.com To: nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com Cc: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thanks, I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats. Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com wrote: Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wagen...@gmail.com To: arsk...@gmail.com CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
- Original Message - From: Wayne Estes w...@charter.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm ://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. All sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT. 73, Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik Hi Wayne ,W9AE To support what AMSAT ? AMSAT-DL to help for P3E or AMSAT-NA to help for very small the FM Microsat or Cubesat ? 73 de i8CVS Domenico ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thanks Wayne, I appreciate the heads up. Downloaded the file (used the backup utility) then upgraded (from a to b) in a couple minutes including the restoring of the configuration. 73 de Jeff K2AK DM41 -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Estes Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 12:28 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm The main SatPC32 program window now displays more information such as the date of the Keplerian elements file in use. Before upgrading your SatPC32 installation, be sure to use the new program (in the ZIP file) to backup your user configuration. The upgrade erases all previous user configurations, but the new program will restore your configurations after upgrading. The download is a demo version that requires users to enter their lat/lon each time the program is started. To make the program fully functional, enter your existing registration code or purchase a registration code from the AMSAT web site: http://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. All sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT. Here are the changes described in the What's New file: 1. SatPC32, SatPC32ISS, Wisat32 and SuM now support rotor control of the M2 RC-2800 rotor system. 2. The CAT control functions of SatPC32, SatPC32ISS and Wisat32 have been expanded. The programs now provide CAT control of the new Icom transceiver IC-9100. 3. The main windows of SatPC32 and SatPC32ISS have been slightly changed to make them clearer. With window size W3 the world map can be stretched (only SatPC32). 4. The accuracy of the rotor positions can now be adjusted for the particular rotor controller. SatPC32 therefore can output the rotor positions with 0, 1 or 2 decimals. Corrections of the antenna positions can automatically be saved. In previous versions that had to be done manually. 5. The tool 'DataBackup' has been added. The tool allows users to save the SatPC32 program data via mouse click and to restore them if necessary. After the program has been configured for the user's equipment the settings should be saved with 'DataBackup'. If problems occur later, the program can easily restore the working configuration. 6. The rotor interfaces IF-100, FODTrack, RifPC and KCT require the kerneldriver IOPort.SYS to be installed. Since it is a 32-bit driver it will not work on 64-bit Windows systems. On such systems the driver can cause error messages.To prevent such messages the driver can now optionally be deactivated. 7. SuM now outputs a DDE string with azimuth and elevation, that can be evaluated by client programs. Some demo files show how to program and configure the client. 73, Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Domenico, You can purchase the registration key from AMSAT-DL, AMSAT-NA, and AMSAT-UK; this is explained on the SatPC32 web site. The money collected goes to that AMSAT. In your case, you should purchase the registration key from AMSAT-DL to support AMSAT-DL's P3E. 73, Steve N9IP -- -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of i8cvs Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:10 AM To: Wayne Estes; Amsat - BBs Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released - Original Message - From: Wayne Estes w...@charter.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm ://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. All sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT. 73, Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik Hi Wayne ,W9AE To support what AMSAT ? AMSAT-DL to help for P3E or AMSAT-NA to help for very small the FM Microsat or Cubesat ? 73 de i8CVS Domenico ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
I did the backup/upgrade without a problem. The additional information on the main screen looks helpful. Thanks, Erich! One observation about upgrading from a prior version---when you restore the data, on the Programs Menu you will lose the new additions of the links to the DataBackup (and Timesynch) programs. This is mentioned in the What's New.txt file as follows: 5. The tool 'DataBackup' has been added to the list of programs that can be started from the SatPC32 menu 'Programs'. I realized the programs listed in the Programs menu are user configurable, so it's no big deal. Just an FYI. 73, Mark N8MH On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:32 AM, K2AK - Jeff k...@k2ak.net wrote: Thanks Wayne, I appreciate the heads up. Downloaded the file (used the backup utility) then upgraded (from a to b) in a couple minutes including the restoring of the configuration. 73 de Jeff K2AK DM41 -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Estes Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 12:28 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm The main SatPC32 program window now displays more information such as the date of the Keplerian elements file in use. Before upgrading your SatPC32 installation, be sure to use the new program (in the ZIP file) to backup your user configuration. The upgrade erases all previous user configurations, but the new program will restore your configurations after upgrading. The download is a demo version that requires users to enter their lat/lon each time the program is started. To make the program fully functional, enter your existing registration code or purchase a registration code from the AMSAT web site: http://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. All sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT. Here are the changes described in the What's New file: 1. SatPC32, SatPC32ISS, Wisat32 and SuM now support rotor control of the M2 RC-2800 rotor system. 2. The CAT control functions of SatPC32, SatPC32ISS and Wisat32 have been expanded. The programs now provide CAT control of the new Icom transceiver IC-9100. 3. The main windows of SatPC32 and SatPC32ISS have been slightly changed to make them clearer. With window size W3 the world map can be stretched (only SatPC32). 4. The accuracy of the rotor positions can now be adjusted for the particular rotor controller. SatPC32 therefore can output the rotor positions with 0, 1 or 2 decimals. Corrections of the antenna positions can automatically be saved. In previous versions that had to be done manually. 5. The tool 'DataBackup' has been added. The tool allows users to save the SatPC32 program data via mouse click and to restore them if necessary. After the program has been configured for the user's equipment the settings should be saved with 'DataBackup'. If problems occur later, the program can easily restore the working configuration. 6. The rotor interfaces IF-100, FODTrack, RifPC and KCT require the kerneldriver IOPort.SYS to be installed. Since it is a 32-bit driver it will not work on 64-bit Windows systems. On such systems the driver can cause error messages.To prevent such messages the driver can now optionally be deactivated. 7. SuM now outputs a DDE string with azimuth and elevation, that can be evaluated by client programs. Some demo files show how to program and configure the client. 73, Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Wayne, A question everyone will ask me now that this new version is available.. Do I have to pay for the upgrade? I purchased SATPC32 from an AMSAT rep at a flea market and it didn't come with a code to be put in to make it work... When I run the program-it says registered and is fully functional.. Maybe you know if this is the case, Wayne. Martha is not in today. 73, Dee, NB2F -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Estes Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 3:28 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm The main SatPC32 program window now displays more information such as the date of the Keplerian elements file in use. Before upgrading your SatPC32 installation, be sure to use the new program (in the ZIP file) to backup your user configuration. The upgrade erases all previous user configurations, but the new program will restore your configurations after upgrading. The download is a demo version that requires users to enter their lat/lon each time the program is started. To make the program fully functional, enter your existing registration code or purchase a registration code from the AMSAT web site: http://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. All sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT. Here are the changes described in the What's New file: 1. SatPC32, SatPC32ISS, Wisat32 and SuM now support rotor control of the M2 RC-2800 rotor system. 2. The CAT control functions of SatPC32, SatPC32ISS and Wisat32 have been expanded. The programs now provide CAT control of the new Icom transceiver IC-9100. 3. The main windows of SatPC32 and SatPC32ISS have been slightly changed to make them clearer. With window size W3 the world map can be stretched (only SatPC32). 4. The accuracy of the rotor positions can now be adjusted for the particular rotor controller. SatPC32 therefore can output the rotor positions with 0, 1 or 2 decimals. Corrections of the antenna positions can automatically be saved. In previous versions that had to be done manually. 5. The tool 'DataBackup' has been added. The tool allows users to save the SatPC32 program data via mouse click and to restore them if necessary. After the program has been configured for the user's equipment the settings should be saved with 'DataBackup'. If problems occur later, the program can easily restore the working configuration. 6. The rotor interfaces IF-100, FODTrack, RifPC and KCT require the kerneldriver IOPort.SYS to be installed. Since it is a 32-bit driver it will not work on 64-bit Windows systems. On such systems the driver can cause error messages.To prevent such messages the driver can now optionally be deactivated. 7. SuM now outputs a DDE string with azimuth and elevation, that can be evaluated by client programs. Some demo files show how to program and configure the client. 73, Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
The registration code can be found on the 4th line of the file UserDaten.txt, either in c:\documents and settings\owner\application data\SatPC32 (XP) or c:\Users\owner\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32 (Vista/Win7) where owner is your username. George, KA3HSW - Original Message From: Dee morse...@optonline.net To: Wayne Estes w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Fri, October 21, 2011 10:51:40 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Wayne, A question everyone will ask me now that this new version is available.. Do I have to pay for the upgrade? I purchased SATPC32 from an AMSAT rep at a flea market and it didn't come with a code to be put in to make it work... When I run the program-it says registered and is fully functional.. Maybe you know if this is the case, Wayne. Martha is not in today. 73, Dee, NB2F ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
On 10/21/2011 9:09 AM, George Henry wrote: The registration code can be found on the 4th line of the file UserDaten.txt, either in c:\documents and settings\owner\application data\SatPC32 (XP) or c:\Users\owner\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32 (Vista/Win7) where owner is your username. W9AE replies: SatPC32 upgrades are always free. I don't know if the registration code from a SatPC32 CD can be used to register the downloaded version. I hope it's not that easy to hack. If you don't have a registration code because you purchased a SatPC32 CD at a hamfest, send me an email with a photo of the CD, and I will send you the registration code for your callsign. Wayne Estes W9AE Oakalnd, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Dee, You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered. A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case, though Martha can generate it for you. 73s, Alan WA4SCA -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dee Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:52 AM To: 'Wayne Estes'; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Wayne, A question everyone will ask me now that this new version is available.. Do I have to pay for the upgrade? I purchased SATPC32 from an AMSAT rep at a flea market and it didn't come with a code to be put in to make it work... When I run the program-it says registered and is fully functional.. Maybe you know if this is the case, Wayne. Martha is not in today. 73, Dee, NB2F -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Estes Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 3:28 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm The main SatPC32 program window now displays more information such as the date of the Keplerian elements file in use. Before upgrading your SatPC32 installation, be sure to use the new program (in the ZIP file) to backup your user configuration. The upgrade erases all previous user configurations, but the new program will restore your configurations after upgrading. The download is a demo version that requires users to enter their lat/lon each time the program is started. To make the program fully functional, enter your existing registration code or purchase a registration code from the AMSAT web site: http://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. All sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT. Here are the changes described in the What's New file: 1. SatPC32, SatPC32ISS, Wisat32 and SuM now support rotor control of the M2 RC-2800 rotor system. 2. The CAT control functions of SatPC32, SatPC32ISS and Wisat32 have been expanded. The programs now provide CAT control of the new Icom transceiver IC-9100. 3. The main windows of SatPC32 and SatPC32ISS have been slightly changed to make them clearer. With window size W3 the world map can be stretched (only SatPC32). 4. The accuracy of the rotor positions can now be adjusted for the particular rotor controller. SatPC32 therefore can output the rotor positions with 0, 1 or 2 decimals. Corrections of the antenna positions can automatically be saved. In previous versions that had to be done manually. 5. The tool 'DataBackup' has been added. The tool allows users to save the SatPC32 program data via mouse click and to restore them if necessary. After the program has been configured for the user's equipment the settings should be saved with 'DataBackup'. If problems occur later, the program can easily restore the working configuration. 6. The rotor interfaces IF-100, FODTrack, RifPC and KCT require the kerneldriver IOPort.SYS to be installed. Since it is a 32-bit driver it will not work on 64-bit Windows systems. On such systems the driver can cause error messages.To prevent such messages the driver can now optionally be deactivated. 7. SuM now outputs a DDE string with azimuth and elevation, that can be evaluated by client programs. Some demo files show how to program and configure the client. 73, Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Domenico...If you have a problem with AMSAT-NA, please donate to whoever is bending to your desires the most, and save the rest of us the pain of your posts! -Original Message- From: i8cvs Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 08:09 To: Wayne Estes ; Amsat - BBs Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released - Original Message - From: Wayne Estes w...@charter.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm ://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. All sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT. 73, Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik Hi Wayne ,W9AE To support what AMSAT ? AMSAT-DL to help for P3E or AMSAT-NA to help for very small the FM Microsat or Cubesat ? 73 de i8CVS Domenico ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
There are no stupid questioms, only answers. From: arsk...@gmail.com To: domenico.i8...@tin.it; w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:23:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Domenico...If you have a problem with AMSAT-NA, please donate to whoever is bending to your desires the most, and save the rest of us the pain of your posts! ...snip Hi Wayne ,W9AE To support what AMSAT ? AMSAT-DL to help for P3E or AMSAT-NA to help for very small the FM Microsat or Cubesat ? 73 de i8CVS Domenico ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
WA4SCA wrote: You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered. A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case, though Martha can generate it for you. W9AE replies: I had to re-enter my registration code when upgrading from 12.8a to 12.8b. Previous SatPC32 upgrades did not require the registration code to be re-entered. Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Wayne, WA4SCA writes: Did not need to reenter the registration code. Still a good idea to keep it safe. ;) Alan WA4SCA -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Estes Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:24 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released WA4SCA wrote: You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered. A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case, though Martha can generate it for you. W9AE replies: I had to re-enter my registration code when upgrading from 12.8a to 12.8b. Previous SatPC32 upgrades did not require the registration code to be re-entered. Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
I used data restore and it used the backup info! No need to reenter here going from a to b. -Original Message- From: Wayne Estes w...@charter.net Sent: October 21, 2011 3:24 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released WA4SCA wrote: You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered. A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case, though Martha can generate it for you. W9AE replies: I had to re-enter my registration code when upgrading from 12.8a to 12.8b. Previous SatPC32 upgrades did not require the registration code to be re-entered. Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:23 PM, KM9U arsk...@gmail.com wrote: Domenico...If you have a problem with AMSAT-NA, please donate to whoever is bending to your desires the most, and save the rest of us the pain of your posts! -Original Message- From: i8cvs Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 08:09 To: Wayne Estes ; Amsat - BBs Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released - Original Message - From: Wayne Estes w...@charter.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm ://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. All sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT. 73, Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik Hi Wayne ,W9AE To support what AMSAT ? AMSAT-DL to help for P3E or AMSAT-NA to help for very small the FM Microsat or Cubesat ? 73 de i8CVS Domenico ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wagen...@gmail.com To: arsk...@gmail.com CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thanks, I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats. Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com wrote: Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wagen...@gmail.com To: arsk...@gmail.com CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Hi Peter,NH6VB I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time. Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot. Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me. 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Stefan Wagener wagen...@gmail.com To: nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com Cc: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thanks, I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats. Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com wrote: Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wagen...@gmail.com To: arsk...@gmail.com CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website. http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it. if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and they will construct a heo for you to launch. otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not without a lot of money. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it wrote: Hi Peter,NH6VB I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time. Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot. Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me. 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Stefan Wagener wagen...@gmail.com To: nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com Cc: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thanks, I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats. Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com wrote: Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wagen...@gmail.com To: arsk...@gmail.com CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Now I understand! Why should we support AMSAT. I already have a cell phone. I could give you my number. We could set up a conference call. Everyone can talk and listen ...worldwideand interrupt each otherfor a lot less cost than putting up our own satellite. Better yet... there is the internet...Skype...complete with video. We can talk all over the world. Why should we spend money on our own satellites when somebody else has already paid the bill? No pile-ups, ...Problem solved. :-)) KM9U...just a fellow amateur wondering why. ;-)) -Original Message- From: i8cvs Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 21:54 To: AMSAT-BB ; nh6vb Scheller ; Stefan Wagener Cc: w...@charter.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Hi Peter,NH6VB I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time. Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot. Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me. 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Stefan Wagener wagen...@gmail.com To: nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com Cc: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thanks, I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats. Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com wrote: Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wagen...@gmail.com To: arsk...@gmail.com CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Hi Charles ,KM9U There are two possible outcomes: If you have a HEO satellite working with many transponders from the VHF to the K band like on AO40 you must became a microwave experimenter and this is the purpose of the Amateur Radio. On the reverse side if you use only your cell phone or internet.Skype you are not an Amateur Radio 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: KM9U arsk...@gmail.com To: i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it; AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org; nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com; Stefan Wagener wagen...@gmail.com Cc: w...@charter.net Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Now I understand! Why should we support AMSAT. I already have a cell phone. I could give you my number. We could set up a conference call. Everyone can talk and listen ...worldwideand interrupt each otherfor a lot less cost than putting up our own satellite. Better yet... there is the internet...Skype...complete with video. We can talk all over the world. Why should we spend money on our own satellites when somebody else has already paid the bill? No pile-ups,...Problem solved. :-)) KM9U...just a fellow amateur wondering why. ;-)) -Original Message- From: i8cvs Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 21:54 To: AMSAT-BB ; nh6vb Scheller ; Stefan Wagener Cc: w...@charter.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Hi Peter,NH6VB I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time. Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot. Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me. 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Stefan Wagener wagen...@gmail.com To: nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com Cc: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thanks, I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats. Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com wrote: Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wagen...@gmail.com To: arsk...@gmail.com CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Hi Bruce,KK5DO AMSAT-DL is working very hard on P3-E and P5-A and in the near future they will be able to launch P3-E Work on P3-E is continuing and AMSAT-DL is busy looking for launch possibilities and other ways for financing it, i.e. on coat-tails of the P5 Mars Mission. Indeed, P3-E is not a dream but a reality and AMSAT-DL need the support of the community. There will only a P3-E, if we all really want it.. If you want to support P3-E, than please visit http://www.p3e-satellite.org/?lang=en_EN and make a direct donation to the project - THANKS! 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Bruce kk...@amsat.org To: i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website. http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it. if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and they will construct a heo for you to launch. otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not without a lot of money. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it wrote: Hi Peter,NH6VB I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time. Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot. Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me. 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Stefan Wagener wagen...@gmail.com To: nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com Cc: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thanks, I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats. Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com wrote: Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wagen...@gmail.com To: arsk...@gmail.com CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released Thank you I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us! Stefan, VE4NSA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb