[amsat-bb] Re: Field day
Hi Bob, I think it's safe to say that we won't be running S-band. We haven't planned that far ahead, but I expect we'll be in mode V/U simply because of eclipses and the battery. Or we could run 9600 baud packet instead :) 73, Mark N8MH At 11:39 PM 4/18/2011 +, Bob- W7LRD wrote: >Field day will be here before we know it. Last year we had AO-51 with mode S >activated. What if any plans are there for this year? With the power >budget as it is what can we plan on? 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle >___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. >Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now >to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: >http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field day
Mark, While I really like the audio on S-band a lot better than U, I think 9600 b packet is a great idea! I know you meant it tongue-in-cheek, but if a real emergency occurred world-wide (you know, like we lost the Internet during the upcoming royal wedding or some other equally cataclysmic event), store-and-forward technology would be a viable and reliable way for hams without HF privileges to communicate world-wide. Reminds me a little of Independence Day :-) 73, Jerry, K5OE --- original message --- Hi Bob, I think it's safe to say that we won't be running S-band. We haven't planned that far ahead, but I expect we'll be in mode V/U simply because of eclipses and the battery. Or we could run 9600 baud packet instead :) 73, Mark N8MH At 11:39 PM 4/18/2011 +, Bob- W7LRD wrote: >Field day will be here before we know it. Last year we had AO-51 with mode S >activated. What if any plans are there for this year? With the power >budget as it is what can we plan on? 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: field day
i have not been able to get the rules for field day placed on the web page. i have tried for several months now. they are posted on my website at doc file http://www.amsatnet.com/2011fd.doc pdf file http://www.amsatnet.com/2011fd.pdf 73...bruce From: Bob- W7LRD To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Fri, April 29, 2011 11:32:23 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] field day Hello all Is there a field day "plan" for this year? I'm the satellite guy for my group this year and I have not heard anything. 73 Bob W7LRD ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day
The few entries you get are from folks like my club K4CQ. The club is not interested in the Amsat Field Day. They allow me space on the tower to mount the antennas because it gets them the ARRL bonus points. I do it with hopes of influencing someone to become interested in Amsat. Has not happened as yet. I wont be in town this year for the operation so it wont get done. Guess you will have one less score to add in this year. I will miss the fun. 73's << John On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Bruce wrote: > Wondering why all the hoopla about any of the satellites being in any > mode. AMSAT receives only about 15 entries for field day. The rest > must be doing only demos or making the one bonus contact. With > hundreds of field day stations on the air we should have way more > entries. > > 73...bruce > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator AO-7,AO-27,FO-29,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52,ISS Email n4...@amsat.org Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ Amsat Member #27845 DXCC #33,478 VUCC SAT #135 WAS SAT #296 51 on AO-51 #13 LON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il >From the Foothills of the Blueridge *Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming - "WOW, What a ride!" ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: field day
We had a Blast also during FD! I was one of the ops from our club station (K4BFT Big Fat Turkey) and worked many of you. I think AO-51 sounded more like ch 19! LOL LOL Dave, kn4ok -Original Message- From: Bob- W7LRD To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 3:16 pm Subject: [amsat-bb] field day Had an absolute blast on field day. AO-7 sounded like a 20M pile up . ven the S band operation on AO-51 was busy. With so many stations on the atellites should we not have more AMSAT members? Defined as more dues paying nd contributing members. This is rocket science and as I been preaching, "this s rocket science and that ain't cheap". 73 Bob W7LRD __ ent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. ot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! ubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: field day
Field day was quite amazing down here in Houston too. I was one of the operators for K5HOU. I had never heard SO-50 with so many people! I tried 3 passes, 2 of which were on SO-50, and we didn't make a single contact, but we still had a ton of fun trying. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:59 PM, wrote: > > We had a Blast also during FD! I was one of the ops from our club station > (K4BFT Big Fat Turkey) and worked many of you. I think AO-51 sounded more > like ch 19! LOL LOL > > Dave, kn4ok > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Bob- W7LRD > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 3:16 pm > Subject: [amsat-bb] field day > > > > Had an absolute blast on field day. AO-7 sounded like a 20M pile up > . > ven the S band operation on AO-51 was busy. With so many stations on the > atellites should we not have more AMSAT members? Defined as more dues > paying > nd contributing members. This is rocket science and as I been preaching, > "this > s rocket science and that ain't cheap". > 73 Bob W7LRD > __ > ent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > ot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > ubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Andrew Koenig ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: field day
At 04:59 PM 6/28/2010 -0400, davekn...@aol.com wrote: >We had a Blast also during FD! I was one of the ops from our club station >(K4BFT Big Fat Turkey) and worked many of you. I think AO-51 sounded more >like ch 19! LOL LOL No. It's an FM satellite, they're always supposed to sound like that. ROFL I hate to admit it, but the linear mode LEO's sounded a bit like that too this weekend. I was going to make a few more calls than I did, but it would have just added to the congestion. KB7ADL ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: field day
I remember working ya on HF someplace. we were wb9fdz Field Day Zombies Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/28/2010 3:59 PM, davekn...@aol.com wrote: > We had a Blast also during FD! I was one of the ops from our club station > (K4BFT Big Fat Turkey) and worked many of you. I think AO-51 sounded more > like ch 19! LOL LOL > > Dave, kn4ok > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Bob- W7LRD > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 3:16 pm > Subject: [amsat-bb] field day > > > > Had an absolute blast on field day. AO-7 sounded like a 20M pile up. > ven the S band operation on AO-51 was busy. With so many stations on the > atellites should we not have more AMSAT members? Defined as more dues paying > nd contributing members. This is rocket science and as I been preaching, > "this > s rocket science and that ain't cheap". > 73 Bob W7LRD > __ > ent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > ot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > ubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: field day
We managed 21 contacts in all... one on each FM bird and the remainder on the linear sats. And all in spite of several visits from Mr. Murphy and his extended family: We ran N3FJP network logging for the first time, with MS NetMeeting as a chat client, and either one of them was conflicting with SatPC32, or my poor old Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop was just not up to the task. Every so often when I changed satellites, or changed CAT selections for a given satellite, SatPC32 would throw an access violation error. Seemed to keep working okay, though. Then I had an issue where the radio kept coming up in "Normal" tracking mode, even when it should have be in "Reverse" tracking mode, followed by 3 "serious error" blue screen reboots. My rotor has a bad spot on the azimuth position pot, so every once in a while, it would go zooming off target and I'd have to go manual; the mic boom broke off my headphones, and of course, it wouldn't be Field Day in Chicagoland without severe thunderstorms rolling thru at some point (Sunday morning - took us off the air for about an hour and a half). I was very impressed at how well AO-7 held up under the abuse she was subjected to. There were a couple of stations that had the poor old girl FM'ing so bad you couldn't even understand them, and one CW station that chirped so bad I swear they were keying an FM rig on the uplink! AO-51 V/S was a treat, and some observers couldn't believe how strong the downlink was with just a corner reflector on the K5GNA downconverter. Nice to have SO-67 back, too! George, KA3HSW (Satellite op for W9CCU, 5A, IL) - Original Message - From: "Andrew Koenig" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:05 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: field day > Field day was quite amazing down here in Houston too. I was one of the > operators for K5HOU. I had never heard SO-50 with so many people! I tried > 3 > passes, 2 of which were on SO-50, and we didn't make a single contact, but > we still had a ton of fun trying. > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:59 PM, wrote: > >> >> We had a Blast also during FD! I was one of the ops from our club >> station >> (K4BFT Big Fat Turkey) and worked many of you. I think AO-51 sounded >> more >> like ch 19! LOL LOL >> >> Dave, kn4ok ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: field day
Everything worked right this year for the Houston MosQRPitos, operating as W5MSQ near Brookshire, Texas. We were set up for all possible satellite configurations including Mode S down via AO-51, but I slept through both passes! However, it was great to find AO-7 and FO-29 in good shape and fantastic ops via HO-68. It may have only been one pass at the end of the event, but it was a GOOD one. Thanks to all for the many satellite QSO's. Be sure and send in your scores! 73 de Andy W5ACM (AMSAT Life Member) for W5MSQ - Original Message - From: "Joe" To: Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: field day >I remember working ya on HF someplace. we were > wb9fdz Field Day Zombies > Joe WB9SBD > > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > > On 6/28/2010 3:59 PM, davekn...@aol.com wrote: > We had a Blast also during FD! I was one of the ops from our club station > (K4BFT Big Fat Turkey) and worked many of you. I think AO-51 sounded more like ch 19! LOL LOL > > Dave, kn4ok > > -Original Message- > From: Bob- W7LRD > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 3:16 pm > Subject: [amsat-bb] field day > > Had an absolute blast on field day. AO-7 sounded like a 20M pile > up. > ven the S band operation on AO-51 was busy. With so many stations on the > atellites should we not have more AMSAT members? Defined as more dues > paying > nd contributing members. This is rocket science and as I been preaching, > "this > s rocket science and that ain't cheap". > 73 Bob W7LRD ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day reminder
Don't ya just love "MURPHY"? On 7/9/2011 12:54 PM, Bruce wrote: > Monday, July 11, 2011 at 23:59 Central Time is the deadline for submission of > your field day summaries. > > > I am going to be a bit delayed in processing the results as my computer > decided > to die. Most likely the processor (Intel Core 2). I ordered a new computer > today. It will probably arrive around Thursday or Friday. I can still check my > mail on another computer. > > > Yippie, just love migrating... hopefully, using the old hard drive and then > loading the new drivers will go smoothly. > > > 73...bruce > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FIELD DAY SCORING
That should make it much easier for everyone as you don't have to do one log and then strip out the unwanted calls for the other. Thanks Pete. I am glad that the two minds (ARRL and AMSAT) have become one. 73...bruce From: Peter Portanova To: amsaT-BB@amsat.org Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 9:33:07 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] FIELD DAY SCORING Hello, I was in contact with the ARRL, after I read 7.3.7. and 7.3.7.1. in the Field Day Rules. I mentioned to the League that I would like them to point out where in those rules it would prohibit scoring the same call on multiple Linear Satellites. They listened to my point's and agreed that even though the rules refer to satellite contacts as a separate "band" there is nothing in those rules that prohibit the aforementioned scoring. In conclusion Field Day and the AMSAT scoring are now in agreement, have fun. 73's Pete WB2OQQ www.massapequanyweather.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FIELD DAY SCORING
Pete & Bruce, Good to know about the LINEAR birds. The rules are still different, AMSAT will allow one V/U and one V/S contact on AO-51. The ARRL will only allow one contact on AO-51. 73, Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:13 AM To: Peter Portanova Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FIELD DAY SCORING That should make it much easier for everyone as you don't have to do one log and then strip out the unwanted calls for the other. Thanks Pete. I am glad that the two minds (ARRL and AMSAT) have become one. 73...bruce From: Peter Portanova To: amsaT-BB@amsat.org Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 9:33:07 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] FIELD DAY SCORING Hello, I was in contact with the ARRL, after I read 7.3.7. and 7.3.7.1. in the Field Day Rules. I mentioned to the League that I would like them to point out where in those rules it would prohibit scoring the same call on multiple Linear Satellites. They listened to my point's and agreed that even though the rules refer to satellite contacts as a separate "band" there is nothing in those rules that prohibit the aforementioned scoring. In conclusion Field Day and the AMSAT scoring are now in agreement, have fun. 73's Pete WB2OQQ www.massapequanyweather.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FIELD DAY SCORING
Yes guys, This makes it important as an AMSAT satellite operator doesn't have to put his gear away after one(1) contact. He can still Demo the sats for the observers. Good luck being heard through the 50 watters... Good job Pete. 73, Dee, NB2F -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:13 AM To: Peter Portanova Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FIELD DAY SCORING That should make it much easier for everyone as you don't have to do one log and then strip out the unwanted calls for the other. Thanks Pete. I am glad that the two minds (ARRL and AMSAT) have become one. 73...bruce From: Peter Portanova To: amsaT-BB@amsat.org Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 9:33:07 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] FIELD DAY SCORING Hello, I was in contact with the ARRL, after I read 7.3.7. and 7.3.7.1. in the Field Day Rules. I mentioned to the League that I would like them to point out where in those rules it would prohibit scoring the same call on multiple Linear Satellites. They listened to my point's and agreed that even though the rules refer to satellite contacts as a separate "band" there is nothing in those rules that prohibit the aforementioned scoring. In conclusion Field Day and the AMSAT scoring are now in agreement, have fun. 73's Pete WB2OQQ www.massapequanyweather.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Question
>I'm chasing grid squares towards Satellite VUCC and other awards. Is it >acceptable and good operating practice for my station to make multiple >contacts during >FD on the linear birds? Make all you want on the linear birds! You'll no doubt hear stations and grids you normally won't, but I'll warn you, FD is chaos on the sats. FD stations can also be very difficult to get a QSL out of as well. 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Question
Les, I hope I'm interpreting your question correctly. The big challenge for someone trying to collect grid squares during Field Day is that the "contest exchange" for Field Day doesn't include the grid square. Most folks will be trying to make as many contacts as possible, as quickly as possible, for Field Day points. My suggestion is that you plan to participate as an AMSAT Field Day participant. After the contest, send each of your contacts a QSL card. Request that they send you a QSL in reply *with* their grid square. This way you've made everyone you contact happy *and* you get a QSL with the grid square you need. To participate in Field Day, you don't have to register with either the ARRL or with AMSAT before the contest, and you don't have to send in a log. Your Field Day exchange would probably be "November One Lima Foxtrot, One Delta Alabama", that is, your call (N1LF), your "class" (for example, 1D), and your ARRL Section (Alabama). A class of 1D means one transmitter and working from home using commercial power. You're welcome to try SO-50 during Field Day, but it will be frustrating. On any given pass, there will likely be two or three successful contacts among the 500-1000 hams attempting to make a contact. (So 6 happy people and 994 unhappy people.) I do *strongly* encourage you to join the fun on the linear satellites (AO-7, FO-29, and VO-52). *Please* make as many contacts as you can on the linear birds! 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, s...@wintek.com On 4/23/13 3:44 PM, "Les Rayburn" wrote: >Please tolerate another newbie question. I know that during the upcoming >Field Day, participants are being encouraged to limit themselves to one >contact on SO-50 or to use the linear birds when possible. > >I'm chasing grid squares towards Satellite VUCC and other awards. Is it >acceptable and good operating practice for my station to make multiple >contacts during >FD on the linear birds? Seems like a great chance to pick up grids that >would otherwise not be active on the birds, but I don't want to be a LID. > >What would be the best practice for an operator like myself during FD? I >won't otherwise be participating in the contest. Again, my thanks for >the advice >and counsel of more experienced operators. Everyone on the birds has >been great and helpful so far, especially K4FEG! > > >-- >73, > >Les Rayburn, N1LF >121 Mayfair Park >Maylene, AL 35114 >EM63nf > >6M VUCC #1712 >AMSAT #38965 >Grid Bandits #222 >Southeastern VHF Society >Central States VHF Society Life Member >Six Club #2484 > >Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light > >___ >Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Question
Les - Yes, you can work multiple stations on the linear birds during Field Day. You can also work them once per mode, so try CW and perhaps RTTY or PSK31 in addition to phone. There are a lot of QSOes to be had. Amsat runs an embedded Field Day contest within the ARRL Field Day contest. Information can be found here: < http://www.amsatnet.com/2013fd.pdf > I encourage you to enter your contacts in the Amsat contest, even if you don't enter the ARRL Field Day. Contest sponsors deserve to see how much activity they have generated. In my experience, the FM birds are nearly useless during Field Day. If you want a real life demonstration of all the negatives about the FM birds, listen to one on FD or even worse, try to make a QSO on one. Don't get me wrong, I think that the FM birds are a fine entry to satellite operation, but the FM ops should move up to the linear birds once they have made a few contacts on the FM birds. Several hundred or a thousand FD satellite stations trying to make a contact on the FM birds, many of them using simplex instead of full duplex operation, is a sight for sore ears. The middle of the night passes are better, but still your chances of making a QSO on them are low. On the other hand, the linear birds are full of activity and lots of people working each other. Several QSOes are possible per pass, even when it is most crowded. Most of the stations are operating full duplex and although they get close to each other, they can usually hear and pause the QSO so that both can make contacts without too much interference. Here are my tips for FD satellite operation. 1. Get plenty of practice on the birds beforehand. FD is not the time to learn satellite operating procedures. 2. Get on the passes early in FD. It takes a different technique to work FD and a pass or two to get it all down. 3. I find it more useful to answer CQs or tailgate QSOes than to call CQ. 4. The middle of the night passes are usually the easiest to work. 5. Work stations on as many modes and as many satellites as you can. 6. Keep your power to the minimum required to make contacts. Never any louder than the beacon. With all the activity it is hard to comply with this. Everyone loses when even one cranks up the power. It is a high tech version of the tragedy of the commons. Working the birds during FD is hard, but rewarding. You said that you aren't going to otherwise participate in FD, but you may wish to volunteer your services to your local club to help with their satellite operations during FD. In my experience the satellite operations are always intriguing to hams who have not worked the satellites before, and is a good place to recruit new satellite operators. And if you can have a satellite contact when the local dignitary is visiting, that always impresses them. They usually equate satellite communication with large dishes, and to see a ham work one with a handheld antenna is always impressive. And you can probably help out at the VHF station when there aren't any satellites to work. Look for W5UR on the birds during FD. - Duffey KK6MC -- KK6MC James Duffey Cedar Crest NM On Apr 23, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Les Rayburn wrote: > Please tolerate another newbie question. I know that during the upcoming > Field Day, participants are being encouraged to limit themselves to one > contact on SO-50 or to use the linear birds when possible. > > I'm chasing grid squares towards Satellite VUCC and other awards. Is it > acceptable and good operating practice for my station to make multiple > contacts during > FD on the linear birds? Seems like a great chance to pick up grids that would > otherwise not be active on the birds, but I don't want to be a LID. > > What would be the best practice for an operator like myself during FD? I > won't otherwise be participating in the contest. Again, my thanks for the > advice > and counsel of more experienced operators. Everyone on the birds has been > great and helpful so far, especially K4FEG! > > > -- > 73, > > Les Rayburn, N1LF > 121 Mayfair Park > Maylene, AL 35114 > EM63nf > > 6M VUCC #1712 > AMSAT #38965 > Grid Bandits #222 > Southeastern VHF Society > Central States VHF Society Life Member > Six Club #2484 > > Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field day and FO29
I believe FO-29 is operating continuously in Mode V/u analog at present. 73, Drew KO4MA - Original Message - From: "Art McBride" To: "AMSAT-BB" Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day and FO29 >I need some help with the schedule for FO-29 The current listing schedule > begins with July 1, And I need the schedule for June 27th 18:00 UTC to > June > 28th 18:00 UTC. > > > > Can anyone help me with this? > > Thanks, > > Art > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field day and FO29
It appears to be in its "normal" mode as Drew said. I was just listening to it about 2130 PDST, and there was quite a bit of activity. Unfortunately my own uplink is clobbering my downlink and I didn't have any success in making any contacts. I'm going to try the "duplexer trick" Sunday morning to see if it helps with the desense problems I'm having. Using two M2 eggbeaters with SSB USA preamps, and they're only about 8 feet apart. 73, Jim KQ6EA --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: From: Andrew Glasbrenner Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field day and FO29 To: kc6...@cox.net, "AMSAT-BB" Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 8:31 PM I believe FO-29 is operating continuously in Mode V/u analog at present. 73, Drew KO4MA - Original Message - From: "Art McBride" To: "AMSAT-BB" Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day and FO29 >I need some help with the schedule for FO-29 The current listing schedule > begins with July 1, And I need the schedule for June 27th 18:00 UTC to > June > 28th 18:00 UTC. > > > > Can anyone help me with this? > > Thanks, > > Art > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field day and FO29
Thanks for all of the replies, I will be trying for it on FD. Art, KC6UQH _ From: Jim Jerzycke [mailto:kq...@pacbell.net] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:42 PM To: kc6...@cox.net; AMSAT-BB; Andrew Glasbrenner Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Field day and FO29 It appears to be in its "normal" mode as Drew said. I was just listening to it about 2130 PDST, and there was quite a bit of activity. Unfortunately my own uplink is clobbering my downlink and I didn't have any success in making any contacts. I'm going to try the "duplexer trick" Sunday morning to see if it helps with the desense problems I'm having. Using two M2 eggbeaters with SSB USA preamps, and they're only about 8 feet apart. 73, Jim KQ6EA --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: From: Andrew Glasbrenner Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field day and FO29 To: kc6...@cox.net, "AMSAT-BB" Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 8:31 PM I believe FO-29 is operating continuously in Mode V/u analog at present. 73, Drew KO4MA - Original Message - From: "Art McBride" To: "AMSAT-BB" Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day and FO29 >I need some help with the schedule for FO-29 The current listing schedule > begins with July 1, And I need the schedule for June 27th 18:00 UTC to > June > 28th 18:00 UTC. > > > > Can anyone help me with this? > > Thanks, > > Art > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
W4F from Naples, Florida Tim! -- David KG4ZLB www.kg4zlb.com n...@bellsouth.net wrote: > Hey everyone, > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > satellite contacts? > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort of > the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they have > obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm interested > in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope those > of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle along. If > you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses > satellites' passbands. > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > Tim - N3TL > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > W4G for Field Day 2009 > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
Very cool, David! Thanks! -- Original message from David - KG4ZLB : -- > W4F from Naples, Florida Tim! > > -- > David > KG4ZLB > www.kg4zlb.com > > > > n...@bellsouth.net wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend > > > for > satellite contacts? > > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort > > > of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they > > > have > obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm > > > interested > in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope > > > those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle > > > along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of > > > theses satellites' > passbands. > > > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > > > Tim - N3TL > > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > > W4G for Field Day 2009 > > ___ > > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
N4FR will be operating from Franklin, TN, just south of Nashville. Alan WA4SCA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
Thanks Alan! -- Original message from "Alan P. Biddle" : -- > N4FR will be operating from Franklin, TN, just south of Nashville. > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
Tim, I'll be operating the satellite station at the K9MOT Motorola Amateur Radio Club FD site in Schaumburg, IL from Grid EN52xb. Unfortunately my CW is not that great but I will try to drag one of our CW ringers to help out. Look for us mostly in the SSB portion of AO-7, FO-29 and V-U52. Happy Field Day! 73, Adrian AA5UK PS: ZF2AE cards are in. I'll start sending those out after FD. From: "n...@bellsouth.net" To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13:30 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs Hey everyone, How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for satellite contacts? Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses satellites' passbands. 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha W4G for Field Day 2009 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
Am?going to help, and?try the SSB and FM birds with Melvin - KP4MPR who is very hooked on satellites and spoke to him last night. The call will be KP4FD. Angel Santana - WP3GW -Original Message- From: Adrian Engele To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2009 9:10 am Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs Tim, I'll be operating the satellite station at the K9MOT Motorola Amateur Radio Club FD site in Schaumburg, IL from Grid EN52xb. Unfortunately my CW is not that great but I will try to drag one of our CW ringers to help out. Look for us mostly in the SSB portion of AO-7, FO-29 and V-U52. Happy Field Day! 73, Adrian AA5UK PS: ZF2AE cards are in. I'll start sending those out after FD. From: "n...@bellsouth.net" To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13:30 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs Hey everyone, How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for satellite contacts? Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses satellites' passbands. 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha W4G for Field Day 2009 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
W2RDX from Webster, NY (FN13) will be on this weekend for FD. As Tim alluded to, don't forget that you can work the same station on both SSB and CW on the analog transponders, so plug in those keys! Addtionly, according the ARRL FD rules, DX stations should send their operating class and "DX". The operating class for your typical home station would be "1D", so the exchange would be "1D DX". Should be a good time Andy K0SM/2 - Original Message - From: n...@bellsouth.net To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:13:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs Hey everyone, How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for satellite contacts? Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses satellites' passbands. 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha W4G for Field Day 2009 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
In a message dated 6/24/2009 7:15:12 AM Central Daylight Time, n...@bellsouth.net writes: > Subj: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs > Date:6/24/2009 7:15:12 AM Central Daylight Time > From:n...@bellsouth.net > To:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org > Received from Internet: > > > > Hey everyone, > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > satellite contacts? > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort > of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they > have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm > interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope > those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle > along. > If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses > satellites' passbands. > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > Tim - N3TL > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > W4G for Field Day 2009 > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > W5IU will be the call sign used by the joint effort of the Lockheed Martin ARC and the Fort Worth Kilocycle Club at the Lockheed Martin Recreation Area in Fort Worth, TX. Both of these clubs have club calls (W5SJZ and W5SH) but they have elected to use my call. We plan to be on all of the birds and I'll see if I can get someone to bring a key. 73 - Keith, W5IU ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
I'll be operating as K6AA, the United Radio Amateur Club. We'll be at the Upper Reservation of Fort MacArthur in San Pedro. 73, es gud luk! Jim KQ6EA --- On Wed, 6/24/09, n...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: n...@bellsouth.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 5:13 AM Hey everyone, How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for satellite contacts? Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses satellites' passbands. 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha W4G for Field Day 2009 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
n...@bellsouth.net wrote: > Hey everyone, > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > satellite contacts? > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort of > the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they have > obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm interested > in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope those > of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle along. If > you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses > satellites' passbands. > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > Tim - N3TL > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > W4G for Field Day 2009 The Ste Genevieve DX & Contest Club call AJ0W will be trying to make some non-FM contacts. Hope to work you. -- John,K0QH aka AJ0W 4SQRP SKCC# 2694 www.stgdxcc.webs.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
> > > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > > satellite contacts? > > VE2CBS Sorel-Tracy ARC 1A batt QRP "-" Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
We will be trying to access the birds but I won't promise anything as the past few years have not met with great success at another FD site. Plus we will give a 'try' at 23cm EME this year. Only using a 5 foot dish with a three element WA5VJB pc board yagi < http://www.wa5vjb.com/pcb-pdfs/Yagi900.pdf > as the feed. I know this is NOT optimal for this but all we want do do is really pick up the signal from the Echo of Apollo < http://echoesofapollo.com/ > event this weekend and this is what I have available. Last I heard they are 'planning' on using 1296.1MHz. Will be operating as W8UM from Ann Arbor, MI (EN82dh) next to Domino's headquarters. James W8ISS = On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 12:13 +, n...@bellsouth.net wrote: > Hey everyone, > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > satellite contacts? > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort of > the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they have > obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm interested > in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope those > of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle along. If > you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses > satellites' passbands. > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > Tim - N3TL > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > W4G for Field Day 2009 > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Sign
I'll be operating W1MOO 2A VT - The Udder Club (seriously...) http://www.w1moo.org/Moopics.html 73, Mike, N1JEZ AMSAT 29649 "A closed mouth gathers no feet" ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
Good idea, Tim. I'll be operating W5QX in WTX section unless we all melt before then. Forecast is for 100+ temps to continue through the weekend. Glenn AA5PK - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs > Hey everyone, > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > satellite contacts? > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort > of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they > have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm > interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope > those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle > along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of > theses satellites' passbands. > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > Tim - N3TL > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > W4G for Field Day 2009 > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
W4A from Ft. DeSoto, Florida on Mullet Key, IOTA NA034. Mostly HF, but I am going to try some AO51. K8CXM Jim Leder Glenn AA5PK wrote: > Good idea, Tim. > > I'll be operating W5QX in WTX section unless we all melt before then. > Forecast is for 100+ temps to continue through the weekend. > > Glenn AA5PK > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13 AM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > > satellite contacts? > > > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort > > of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they > > have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm > > interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope > > those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle > > along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of > > theses satellites' passbands. > > > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > > > Tim - N3TL > > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > > W4G for Field Day 2009 > > ___ > > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
W4A from Ft. DeSoto, Florida on Mullet Key, IOTA NA034. Mostly HF, but I am going to try some AO51. K8CXM Jim Leder Glenn AA5PK wrote: > Good idea, Tim. > > I'll be operating W5QX in WTX section unless we all melt before then. > Forecast is for 100+ temps to continue through the weekend. > > Glenn AA5PK > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13 AM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > > satellite contacts? > > > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort > > of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they > > have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm > > interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope > > those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle > > along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of > > theses satellites' passbands. > > > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > > > Tim - N3TL > > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > > W4G for Field Day 2009 > > ___ > > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
I'll be running W9CCU from the Chicago suburbs (Naperville, to be exact... a new site this year) George, KA3HSW - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs > Hey everyone, > > How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for > satellite contacts? > > Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort > of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they > have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. > > I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm > interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. > > I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope > those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle > along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of > theses satellites' passbands. > > 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! > > Tim - N3TL > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > W4G for Field Day 2009 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
Tim, Are you making the list? Get everyone on one page. ( I'm just getting lazy),lol Am I going to need a PreAmp for the Elk on the SSB birds ? Its new for me and so is working from someplace other than home. Marv. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
A preamp is *always* a good idea. Jim KQ6EA --- On Wed, 6/24/09, racer5039 wrote: From: racer5039 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:23 PM Tim, Are you making the list? Get everyone on one page. ( I'm just getting lazy),lol Am I going to need a PreAmp for the Elk on the SSB birds ? Its new for me and so is working from someplace other than home. Marv. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
W0RR - Heart of American Radio Club, Kansas City, MO Gail McDaniel KB0RZD ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Signs
W0WTN -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of n...@bellsouth.net Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:14 AM To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Call Signs Hey everyone, How about posting the call sign you'll be using over Field Day weekend for satellite contacts? Here, I'll be providing the satellite station for the combined FD effort of the Athens Amateur Radio Club and the Northeast Georgia ARC, and they have obtained the special 1x1 call W4G for Field Day. I know many of us will be using club calls over Field Day, and I'm interested in know "who will be who" this weekend. I'm also interested in CW contacts on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52, so I hope those of you who will be working those three will bring a key or paddle along. If you do, please listen for W4G a few kHz below the middles of theses satellites' passbands. 73 to all, and enjoy Field Day! Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha W4G for Field Day 2009 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Call Sign
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'll be operating W1AEC Sunday morning and hope to get on some on the FM birds. - -- Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA bbj innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJKQ4gKAAoJEAQiWVsfSvVvyDoIAJNtFEIyVjC2miQ+3ho0fj9O d8s7BnfmsTxAKfhTgIqnBcO8PcObXr/AwxXb836twZOumlPatXqYwXOlpDv4eZPT ySulWhtjwjcCMCjoD61GY4qU4gs98i5200+f64iN4jL32uJeP3xoOSboPjz07WeA LpvxJZENwf80ap0ar+HHcxHzCzSm8Vb8THRQ+HB1vUSU7TI2V4Wo37a6QoJkxE0i Dcb8aD6sFGop30vB1Eeiz1gdVSFJJlnZy6/AiIkRWojJgyJz7qTnyudY8KJmQeXa k0iUlJ9OVshpo57kK7Q7xLeJV8eia+JNIm5bmEZulfdU6la14BGf7TsO5SSCWaw= =xne3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!
The birds were overcrowded... I had an arrow type antenna set up (split the UHF and VHF beams on to 2 separate booms on my G5400 being controlled by LVB tracker and SATPC32 program for demo purposes) with my Icom 910 and it was difficult to even get the 100 point contact. Made a few contacts and Maybe next year we all can set up the one contact per bird rule and KEEP it! Was fun and the questions I had with my set up perked interest from the people that were "onlookers" Sorry to WB2OQQ and others that I know but the interference was a bit much to overcome. Hope all had a great Field Day. 73, Dee, NB2F At "K2BAR" -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D. Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:00 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Dual-Hop! Well, one-way, and I didn't have the presence of mind to try to make a cross satellite contact. The end of the last AO-07 pass (which sounded very much like 20 meters!) crossed with the beginning of FO-29's, so the two satellites passed within a couple of hundred miles of each other. Since the downlink for AO-07 is in the middle of the uplink passband for FO-29, I switched over to FO-29 to take a listen. Sure enough, the bottom of FO-29's passband sounded like 20 meters for a few moments. Then it went away. Fleeting chaos. Sweet. Greg KO6TH ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!
Actually, the later (North-heading) pass of AO-51 was remarkably sane. I made my 100 point contact with AA5PK, and then sat back to listen. Towards the end of the pass it was pretty quiet, so I answered W6YX who was actually having to call CQ for some attention. But AO-7 literally sounds like 20 meters. I've never heard it so busy. The Old Girl is holding up extremely well, and I had much better luck there than with FO-29, which seemed to be suffering from the onslaught. AO-27 was super busy too, so I decided to wait for the mid-Pacific 3-degree pass. Almost snagged the NH7 station... Sorry, just couldn't pull out the call sign as the bird set. Time to buy a better preamp and get it mounted directly on the antenna boom (instead of 10' and a cable splice away). Greg KO6TH > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:35:36 -0400 > From: morse...@optonline.net > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Field Day Dual-Hop! > To: ko6th_g...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org > > The birds were overcrowded... I had an arrow type antenna set up (split the > UHF and VHF beams on to 2 separate booms on my G5400 being controlled by LVB > tracker and SATPC32 program for demo purposes) with my Icom 910 and it was > difficult to even get the 100 point contact. Made a few contacts and Maybe > next year we all can set up the one contact per bird rule and KEEP it! > Was fun and the questions I had with my set up perked interest from the > people that were "onlookers" Sorry to WB2OQQ and others that I know but the > interference was a bit much to overcome. > Hope all had a great Field Day. > 73, > Dee, NB2F > At "K2BAR" > > > -Original Message- > From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On > Behalf Of Greg D. > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:00 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Dual-Hop! > > > Well, one-way, and I didn't have the presence of mind to try to make a cross > satellite contact. > > The end of the last AO-07 pass (which sounded very much like 20 meters!) > crossed with the beginning of FO-29's, so the two satellites passed within a > couple of hundred miles of each other. Since the downlink for AO-07 is in > the middle of the uplink passband for FO-29, I switched over to FO-29 to > take a listen. Sure enough, the bottom of FO-29's passband sounded like 20 > meters for a few moments. Then it went away. > > Fleeting chaos. Sweet. > > Greg KO6TH > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!
I actually made most of our (W9CCU) contacts on FO-29 this year, with AO-7 and VO-52 close behind. REALLY disappointed at the number of stations making multiple contacts on the FM birds... what these people don't seem to realize is that every extra contact they make deprives another station of the opportunity to make their one FD contact. George, KA3HSW - Original Message - From: "Greg D." To: ; Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop! > > Actually, the later (North-heading) pass of AO-51 was remarkably sane. I > made my 100 point contact with AA5PK, and then sat back to listen. > Towards the end of the pass it was pretty quiet, so I answered W6YX who > was actually having to call CQ for some attention. > > But AO-7 literally sounds like 20 meters. I've never heard it so busy. > The Old Girl is holding up extremely well, and I had much better luck > there than with FO-29, which seemed to be suffering from the onslaught. > AO-27 was super busy too, so I decided to wait for the mid-Pacific > 3-degree pass. Almost snagged the NH7 station... Sorry, just couldn't > pull out the call sign as the bird set. Time to buy a better preamp and > get it mounted directly on the antenna boom (instead of 10' and a cable > splice away). > > Greg KO6TH > > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!
I know, Possibly they do not know what is happening? (Doubt it) how to fix it? I also do not know. This is one of the main reason I hate the CB fiasco of the single channel FM birds. Especially because of the nature of the FM capture effect. The Bully with the biggest signal is the only one heard. This may make it even more CB'ish, but maybe once a station has worked someone, then everyone else starts CQing again? Yes a massive mess. I feel the ideal would be the one QSO per station during FD. As it is intended to be. Maybe have an OO monitor passes like when FD is happening and send out pink slips to all that do not abide by the one QSO policy during FD? Or what probably would be even faster than the one QSO per station, would be to run QSO's like a sprint type then each station gets 2 QSO's and are gone. Typical would be like this. CQ Field Day this is W9ABC W9ABC this is K9K9XYZ K9XYZ we are 1A Wisconsin QSL we are 5a Illinois QSL Qrz this is K9XYZ K9XYZ this is W9AAA W9AAA we are 1A Wisconsin etc. I don't know. A simple small linear transponder would be soo much nicer. And not all that hard to make either. But alas we keep putting up these FM birds. UG> Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/27/2011 12:01 AM, George Henry wrote: > I actually made most of our (W9CCU) contacts on FO-29 this year, with AO-7 > and VO-52 close behind. > > REALLY disappointed at the number of stations making multiple contacts on > the FM birds... what these people don't seem to realize is that every extra > contact they make deprives another station of the opportunity to make their > one FD contact. > > George, KA3HSW > > > - Original Message - > From: "Greg D." > To:; > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:13 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop! > > >> Actually, the later (North-heading) pass of AO-51 was remarkably sane. I >> made my 100 point contact with AA5PK, and then sat back to listen. >> Towards the end of the pass it was pretty quiet, so I answered W6YX who >> was actually having to call CQ for some attention. >> >> But AO-7 literally sounds like 20 meters. I've never heard it so busy. >> The Old Girl is holding up extremely well, and I had much better luck >> there than with FO-29, which seemed to be suffering from the onslaught. >> AO-27 was super busy too, so I decided to wait for the mid-Pacific >> 3-degree pass. Almost snagged the NH7 station... Sorry, just couldn't >> pull out the call sign as the bird set. Time to buy a better preamp and >> get it mounted directly on the antenna boom (instead of 10' and a cable >> splice away). >> >> Greg KO6TH >> >> > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!
Joe, > I feel the ideal would be the one QSO per station during FD. As it is > intended to be. Maybe have an OO monitor passes like when FD is > happening and send out pink slips to all that do not abide by the one > QSO policy during FD? Other than possibly having the OO's cite the operator for not following "good amateur practice" in FCC part 97.101a of the FCC rules, what could an OO do? There is no FCC rule that says operators make one and only one QSO on an FM satellite, and OO's are not in the business of upholding contest rules. If stations are identifying and not causing willful or malicious interference that could be cited under FCC part 97.101d, and aren't violating any other part of the FCC rules, then the OO has nothing to send out a pink slip for. Even if an OO were to send out a pink slip, the station would receive it a few days after the Field Day weekend - which doesn't help matters during the weekend. > I don't know. > A simple small linear transponder would be soo much nicer. And not all > that hard to make either. We have 3 that were used a lot over the weekend, much more than normal. When it isn't Field Day, there are many times where stations can call CQ for an entire pass on those satellites yet work nobody. I even saw this a couple of times on Saturday afternoon, where I moved higher in the passband so I could hear my downlink easier, yet nobody responded to my CQ calls. Or everyone crowds the center of the passband and ignores the remainder of the 50- to 100-kHz transponder, making it almost seem like you're on an FM satellite. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!
On 27 Jun 2011 at 0:01, George Henry wrote: Date sent: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:01:28 -0500 From: George Henry Subject:[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop! To: amsat bb > I actually made most of our (W9CCU) contacts on FO-29 this year, with AO-7 > and VO-52 close behind. > > REALLY disappointed at the number of stations making multiple contacts on > the FM birds... what these people don't seem to realize is that every extra > contact they make deprives another station of the opportunity to make their > one FD contact. > > George, KA3HSW > > If someone called CW FD 3 or 4 times without any answer it is a plus if this station give him his first one but if FD stations are only adding contact to their log i agree it is useless on Field Day "-" Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe DSTAR urcall VE2DWE WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!
I have to agree with Patrick on this one. We also checked the frequencies up and down from the center of the passbands and there was little activity. Just spread out. It was wonderful to see that there was so much activity. As for the FM birds - it is what it is. One frequency with capture effect where two people are happy and the rest does not make it. We, deliberately stayed clear of the FM birds and focused on the ones with linear transponders. We were better prepared to work the Satellites than ever before. SatPC32, LVB Tracker, G5500, IC910 with Rig Control. Nature favors the prepared :-) 73, Andreas, N6NU, CM87VK On Jun 27, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > Or everyone crowds the center of the passband and ignores > the remainder of the 50- to 100-kHz transponder, making it almost seem > like you're on an FM satellite. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FIELD DAY SCORING/ Hamfest
Dee, Yes Dee good point, now that a station can make FD points on all the Linear Satellite's it might encourage Clubs to increase their AMSAT visability and run a complete station. It will be another opportunity to help DARA add more matching funds towards our goal of "Getting Back into Space". I had a fantastic Hamfest hosted by LIMARC, we had a very visable location, next to the well designed Great South Bay ARC's communications trailer, which brought more visitors to our AMSAT Booth. I want to thank K2TV, AB2ZI, W2JGH, K2IZ, W2HCB and KA2CAQ, all graduates of my satellite classes who helped with the non-stop visitors to our booth. I also want to thank, Richie, K2KNB, who headed the LIMARC Hamfest and the other volunteers for making AMSAT so welcome, you always run a big succesful event. I will be making a satellite presentation to the club in November. I have attached a few pictures of the day.. 73's Pete WB2OQQ AMSAT NY Area Coordinator www.massapequanyweather.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day 2013 - Sats
It's one QSO /*per FM satellite*/. You can make as many as you want on the linear birds. Jim KQ6EA On 09/04/2013 02:36 AM, Clint Bradford wrote: I thought that the Field Day rules (both ARRL and AMSAT rules) limited the number of contacts for each entrant/submission/club to one QSO per satellite. Was that correct? Would there be any point in a club making, say, 20 contacts on Field Day? Would additional points be available for a club making more than one QSO per bird? And as far as it is known, will the same sat rule be in effect for 2014? Thanks. Clint K6LCS -- Clint Bradford, K6LCS http://www.clintbradford.com ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day 2013 - Sats
Hi Clint, The problem with "field day rules for satellites" is that they are totally out of line with reality. Field day for many is to make contacts for the sake of contacts and that's okay and fine. Collect the points, the contacts and enjoy it. It is a great hobby! However, for many others field day is the one day where amateur radio can shine and the community can be invited to visit with hot dogs, barbecue and the whole nine yards. Amateur radio can be demonstrated and many don't care about points and rules and regs and policies and so on and on. It is all about getting folks interested and they need to see live contacts on every available pass. Who cares if you work the same station twenty five times :-) you are not collecting points you show someone that they also can talk via satellites and create interest in amateur radio via satellites. Another great aspect of the hobby. Enjoy it! The problem is that the "points collectors" and the "free willies" don't necessary get on the same page and the satellites are very much "difficult to use" to word it politically correct. If field day would become a community exposure day it would change. We have so many other contests and we can come up with a satellite contest day, just take field day out of the points collection (for satellites) and we would win BIG time. My two cents (Canadian) Stefan, VE4NSA On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Clint Bradford wrote: > I thought that the Field Day rules (both ARRL and AMSAT rules) limited the > number of contacts for each entrant/submission/club to one QSO per > satellite. > > Was that correct? Would there be any point in a club making, say, 20 > contacts on Field Day? Would additional points be available for a club > making more than one QSO per bird? > > And as far as it is known, will the same sat rule be in effect for 2014? > > Thanks. > > Clint K6LCS > > -- > Clint Bradford, K6LCS > http://www.clintbradford.com > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day 2013 - Sats
I do not believe the single FM contact per satellite rule has helped. I propose we try something else -- we have a powerful east coast station (W1AW) and a powerful west coast station (K6KPH). The only FM satellite contacts that count will be with either station. They will not work duplicates. Just a thought -- 73, Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Wagener Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:16 PM To: Clint Bradford Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day 2013 - Sats Hi Clint, The problem with "field day rules for satellites" is that they are totally out of line with reality. Field day for many is to make contacts for the sake of contacts and that's okay and fine. Collect the points, the contacts and enjoy it. It is a great hobby! However, for many others field day is the one day where amateur radio can shine and the community can be invited to visit with hot dogs, barbecue and the whole nine yards. Amateur radio can be demonstrated and many don't care about points and rules and regs and policies and so on and on. It is all about getting folks interested and they need to see live contacts on every available pass. Who cares if you work the same station twenty five times :-) you are not collecting points you show someone that they also can talk via satellites and create interest in amateur radio via satellites. Another great aspect of the hobby. Enjoy it! The problem is that the "points collectors" and the "free willies" don't necessary get on the same page and the satellites are very much "difficult to use" to word it politically correct. If field day would become a community exposure day it would change. We have so many other contests and we can come up with a satellite contest day, just take field day out of the points collection (for satellites) and we would win BIG time. My two cents (Canadian) Stefan, VE4NSA On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Clint Bradford wrote: > I thought that the Field Day rules (both ARRL and AMSAT rules) limited the > number of contacts for each entrant/submission/club to one QSO per > satellite. > > Was that correct? Would there be any point in a club making, say, 20 > contacts on Field Day? Would additional points be available for a club > making more than one QSO per bird? > > And as far as it is known, will the same sat rule be in effect for 2014? > > Thanks. > > Clint K6LCS > > -- > Clint Bradford, K6LCS > http://www.clintbradford.com > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
Ng, Peter wrote: > ...sorry, I meant to vote for V/U mode as I only have VHF/UHF equipment! > > Keep in mind there will likely be three or four transponders birds, and two to four other FM birds available that weekend! It's been my perception that a good portion of AMSAT's sustaining members leave and breathe the highest tech they can manage. Eight out of eight satellites being V/U seems counter to that goal. Mark and Bob both make good points supporting at least one area of refuge for this portion of the AMSAT population. Personally, I think the V/U FM experience on Field Day is a big turnoff to newbies, especially since so many under-prepared, over-powered and out of practice once-a-year sat ops fail miserably to get those bonus points on FM. I bet someone in your area has 1.2 Ghz capability! 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
Hi Drew, thanks very much for your feedback! Guess I was too naïve earlier, but now see the light! :) Also after reading threads from Robert and Mark, I agree, there might be too much non-productive traffic and high expectations, especially on FD. I will stick to receive only as Mark suggested! My vote is changing to L/U just in case I can't find a 1.2 GHz receiver :) ...learning a lot from you guys and this list, thanks! 73, Peter VE7NGP -Original Message- From: Andrew Glasbrenner [mailto:glasbren...@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:33 PM To: Ng, Peter Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org; ao51-mo...@amsat.org Subject: Re: Field Day mode for AO-51 Ng, Peter wrote: > ...sorry, I meant to vote for V/U mode as I only have VHF/UHF equipment! > > Keep in mind there will likely be three or four transponders birds, and two to four other FM birds available that weekend! It's been my perception that a good portion of AMSAT's sustaining members leave and breathe the highest tech they can manage. Eight out of eight satellites being V/U seems counter to that goal. Mark and Bob both make good points supporting at least one area of refuge for this portion of the AMSAT population. Personally, I think the V/U FM experience on Field Day is a big turnoff to newbies, especially since so many under-prepared, over-powered and out of practice once-a-year sat ops fail miserably to get those bonus points on FM. I bet someone in your area has 1.2 Ghz capability! 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
Peter, >From past studies, mode L/U is the place to be if you want to work someone on AO-51 without an EME station. ;) While the V/U FM repeater was choked on every pass, there were very few stations on L/U. In the four passes I monitored last year, totaling 46 minutes, there were only 21 station heard. Half of those were on the first pass, and by the last pass on Sunday, only one plaintive station calling. Alan WA4SCA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 07:20 -0500, Alan P. Biddle wrote: > Peter, > > >From past studies, mode L/U is the place to be if you want to work someone > on AO-51 without an EME station. ;) While the V/U FM repeater was choked > on every pass, there were very few stations on L/U. In the four passes I > monitored last year, totaling 46 minutes, there were only 21 station heard. > Half of those were on the first pass, and by the last pass on Sunday, only > one plaintive station calling. > > Alan > WA4SCA Presumably that's because very few people have L- and S-band equipment. I'm guessing that many people are - like me - put off by the prohibitive cost and requirement for overcomplicated tracking systems. Working V/U with a handheld antenna is much more fun than sitting watching a computer twiddle servos and tune the radio for you. Gordon MM0YEQ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
> Presumably that's because very few people have L- and S-band equipment. > I'm guessing that many people are - like me - put off by the prohibitive > cost and requirement for overcomplicated tracking systems. > > Working V/U with a handheld antenna is much more fun than sitting > watching a computer twiddle servos and tune the radio for you. > > Gordon MM0YEQ > I work V/S with two HTs, and a ~10 inch corner reflector and downconverter for S band. One HT has a $10 MFJ whip, and the other is a IC-2 purchased for $5. I bought my last 2 downconverters on Ebay or hamfests for less than $20 each. Sort of like Mark is doing here: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/glasbrenner/DSCF1025.jpg It's not tough...and lot's of fun. 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
Agreed. Sure your arm gets tired after a long pass from satellites like HO-68, but half the fun is the simplicity and the other half being the challenge. I doubt I would personally get involved with L/U on LEO's like AO-51 because of the cost and complexity of having computer controlled servos to track them just for a 10 - 20 minute window that you only get once or twice a day depending on the LEO. Considering I work satellites mostly on weekends the amount of use it would get wouldn't be worth it for me. I'd be more likely to build a setup for working HEO's like AO-40 before building a setup for L/U work on LEO's due to the simplicity, larger foot print, and longer predictable window. To be honest I would use FM on AO-51 as that is the most likely usage new comers to satellites will most likely end up using. If you want to demonstrate the raw rag chewing potential of satellites then demo a HEO like AO-40. ~73, KC2WQW On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 07:20 -0500, Alan P. Biddle wrote: > > Peter, > > > > >From past studies, mode L/U is the place to be if you want to work > someone > > on AO-51 without an EME station. ;) While the V/U FM repeater was > choked > > on every pass, there were very few stations on L/U. In the four passes I > > monitored last year, totaling 46 minutes, there were only 21 station > heard. > > Half of those were on the first pass, and by the last pass on Sunday, > only > > one plaintive station calling. > > > > Alan > > WA4SCA > > Presumably that's because very few people have L- and S-band equipment. > I'm guessing that many people are - like me - put off by the prohibitive > cost and requirement for overcomplicated tracking systems. > > Working V/U with a handheld antenna is much more fun than sitting > watching a computer twiddle servos and tune the radio for you. > > Gordon MM0YEQ > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
For some us figuring out how to let the computer do all the work is a huge part of the fun! It's like solving a big puzzle. Geesh if I wanted to talk to people I'd use the telephone. ;) 73, Mark N8MH Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Gordon JC Pearce Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 19:30:57 To: Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51 On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 07:20 -0500, Alan P. Biddle wrote: > Peter, > > >From past studies, mode L/U is the place to be if you want to work someone > on AO-51 without an EME station. ;) While the V/U FM repeater was choked > on every pass, there were very few stations on L/U. In the four passes I > monitored last year, totaling 46 minutes, there were only 21 station heard. > Half of those were on the first pass, and by the last pass on Sunday, only > one plaintive station calling. > > Alan > WA4SCA Presumably that's because very few people have L- and S-band equipment. I'm guessing that many people are - like me - put off by the prohibitive cost and requirement for overcomplicated tracking systems. Working V/U with a handheld antenna is much more fun than sitting watching a computer twiddle servos and tune the radio for you. Gordon MM0YEQ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
I have L band gear. When the bird is in L/U Luc and I have a great time talking to each other. When the bird is in V/U I'll make half a dozen or more contacts in a pass. I voted for mode L, because I didn't believe V/U was an option and S band is becoming too full of interference. I have a couple questions: 1. The folks who can't eek out a contact with the handheld and Arrow during Field Day, have you practiced? It's how I have done it the last couple of years without that much trouble, patience and timing are the keys :-). We have a good Field Day location where I can see down to the horizon. 2. Has the single contact per FM bird rule really helped anyone? In the old days a couple big stations got on and essentially ran the bird. Is it fair? NO! but they handed out a lot of QSOs and we seemed to get more AMSAT Field Day entries as well. The one bird one contact has been a noble experiment, maybe it is time to examine the results. Hats off to the controllers for starting the discussion! 73, Just My Thoughts, Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 4:33 PM To: Ng, Peter Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org; ao51-mo...@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51 Ng, Peter wrote: > ...sorry, I meant to vote for V/U mode as I only have VHF/UHF equipment! > > Keep in mind there will likely be three or four transponders birds, and two to four other FM birds available that weekend! It's been my perception that a good portion of AMSAT's sustaining members leave and breathe the highest tech they can manage. Eight out of eight satellites being V/U seems counter to that goal. Mark and Bob both make good points supporting at least one area of refuge for this portion of the AMSAT population. Personally, I think the V/U FM experience on Field Day is a big turnoff to newbies, especially since so many under-prepared, over-powered and out of practice once-a-year sat ops fail miserably to get those bonus points on FM. I bet someone in your area has 1.2 Ghz capability! 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
On 4 May 2010 at 22:22, Gary "Joe" Mayfield wrote: Date sent: Tue, 04 May 2010 22:22:54 -0500 From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51 Copies to: amsat-bb@amsat.org > I have L band gear. When the bird is in L/U Luc and I have a great time > talking to each other. When the bird is in V/U I'll make half a dozen or > more contacts in a pass. I voted for mode L, because I didn't believe V/U > was an option and S band is becoming too full of interference. > L/U is a great mode but to have my setup Field Day ready it's another question. I'm using a PCR 1000 as a way to measure my uplink frequency on the PCR-1000 scope display, i should bring my transverter plus my preamp who will be installed on the top of my satellite tower at that time plus my FT-847 and 2 power supply. As i don't have a second L-band antenna i can use a simple patch feed who i think will not be enough to be able to reach AO-51. Again i vote for L/U but not too sure if i will be able to make it. As a suggestion Mode S/U can be challenging as downconverter are easy to find and the S band antenna too. I don't remember if this configuration has ever been used in the past but it will be something interesting to work and this setup will be easy to build for field day. "-" Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe DSTAR urcall VE2DWE WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day mode for AO-51
> I have a couple questions: > > 1. The folks who can't eek out a contact with the handheld and Arrow > during > Field Day, have you practiced? It's how I have done it the last couple of > years without that much trouble, patience and timing are the keys :-). We > have a good Field Day location where I can see down to the horizon. > Time is limited for many people and Field Day unfortunately is a time for many to experiment with their buddies. Satellite? We can do that! Watch this? How many times have you cringed when you heard that? Now we have a group of buddies standing around with their favorite liquid beverage, known to cause judgmental impairment, having a good time laughing and tinkering... For some, this is their definition of Field Day while others take it a bit more seriously. There is a wide mix of people on Field Day and we have to accept that as a known historical fact. If they become disgruntled and say this is not the way I envision Field Day, they may not come back. > 2. Has the single contact per FM bird rule really helped anyone? In the > old days a couple big stations got on and essentially ran the bird. Is it > fair? NO! but they handed out a lot of QSOs and we seemed to get more > AMSAT > Field Day entries as well. > No, it has not helped promote more contacts on an FM satellite. It has only allowed chaos to reign (fewer contacts) on the FM satellites. Historical and factual information can clearly answer this question. When there are big targets to hit (stations that can be heard clearly) things run smoother and more contacts are made. You can debate it, but the facts are clear and supported by this operators experience. We already know the end result and that it indeed produces more contacts at a faster rate to move them in and move them out of the way in DXpedition style. This net control operator style of operation turns chaos into something more predictable and controllable while handing out contacts to stations that may never have a chance with the numerous stations calling over top of each other. I can remember sitting in a chair many years ago (year 2000 to be exact) handing out 1 contact after another on an FM bird which really led to the creation of the rule for a perceived problem. At the time I did not feel good about doing it, but when we stopped doing it, chaos reigned once again. When we started net control operation again, contacts were being made at a rate of greater than 5 to 1. We looked at each other sitting at the radio and discussed how many contacts were made when we operated in this fashion and thought we were doing a service in the Field Day spirit by handing out contacts when none were being made or people were just calling over top of each other with no actual communication taking place. As we lost the bird another clear station came on and did the same thing. Unfortunately, this caused "The Great FM Satellite Field Day Rift" to give it a name. We were exercising what we thought was in the best interest of turning chaos (no contacts being made) to something more efficient and productive that undeniably allowed more contacts to be made. Operation on FM satellites is more efficient with a control or net operator. This was a crafted communication skill utilized to solve the immediate problem of no contacts being made and it worked very well. Thus, the rule added in the 2001 AMSAT Field Day Rules to limit contacts to 1 was instituted. The rule was clarified in 2001 by the statement: [Operators are encouraged not to make any extra contacts via these satellites (Ex: UO14 &AO27).] It is a reasonable rule to the extent of only allowing 1 point so somebody does not run up a score or monopolize points from another station in the AMSAT Field Day Competition. The problem is the rule went too far by encouraging operators not to make any additional contacts on these satellites. Statistics do not lie. They only validate the end result and there should be plenty of results since 2001. Furthermore, in a June 2001 QST article written by Steve Ford, WB8IMY, he published the following statements: [The politically correct thing for me to do is wag my finger at you and say, "you must not use more than 5 W on the 2-meter uplinks to these satellites. If we all play nicely and keep our power levels low, everyone will have a chance."] [If you must run high power to capture a spot in the FM mob scene, at least be considerate. Once you've made a valid contact, get off (italics). Don't attempt to monopolize the birds throughout their 15-minute pass.] It is naïve to think that everybody running 5W will solve the problem. It is Field Day and everybody is hungry for their bonus points for the ARRL Field Day. When there are a thousand stations trying to squeeze into the same pipe at the same time, you should expect chaos. There is no way everybody will get a chance to work an FM satellite on Field Day. It is not possib
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day site-to-site texting
OOPS! Well we saw 12 FD sites logged onto the CQSRVR but after seeing no return-CQ's from anyone else, I ased the author and around midnight he found a glitch and all of the CQSRVR re-transmitted messages were all stuck at the server! So that explains why we all got ACKS and saw that our messages had gone out, but they hadn't and so none of us were seeing anything. It is fixed now. But too late for this fielday. Anyway, anytime you have a regional, national or global event, don't forget you can use the CQSRVR for any such global message group. Just put CQ GROUP as the first two words of any message and everyone else using the same GROUP will see them. For SCOUTS all over the world, try the CQ SCOUTS group during your campouts. See details http://aprs.org/cqsrvr.html Bob, Wb4aPR -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bob Bruninga Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:26 AM To: 'amsat-bb' Cc: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List' Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day site-to-site texting Every FD site will usually have APRS on line. Remember, you can contact any other FD site in the world on your APRS channel. (144.39 in North America). Just send them an APRS text message. Of course, this assumes you know their callsign. To facilitate learning who else is on the air, send a CQ FD message to the APRS CQSERVER and your CQ will go to every other CQ FD site on the planet. This has nothing to do with FD rules and points. It is just a way to have fun and be able to contact any FD site without knowing apriori their calling freq. Just send an APRS message to CQSRVR and make the first two words of the message be CQ FD for example, "CQ FD from Bob in Annapolis, MD". These do not count for points, but are a great way to have ham radio fun with other sites. This will log you onto the CQ FD message group and from then on, you will get ALL OTHER such messages from all other such stations. When you DO see an incoming CQ FD message, now then you know their callsign and can MESSAGE THEM DIRECTLY from then on. To keep the load down, you can only send one CQ FD message once every 30 minutes, but you will remain logged on for up to 12 hours. After no activity, you will be dropped. Oh, for more info about APRS and Field Day, see http://aprs.org/cqsrvr.html Bob, WB4APR ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
AO-51 is FM only the last I checked. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat...@wd9ewk.net> wrote: > Hi! > > With all the talk about the possibility of an L-band uplink and/or > S-band downlink on AO-51 since there will be at least 2 other V/U > FM satellites available during Field Day weekend, what about sticking > with the V/U frequency combination but go with something different > for the 2m uplink mode? Using SSB or even CW on the 2m uplink would > make AO-51 different than the other V/U satellites, yet still provide > a challenge that more stations could take on than L-band or S-band - > and the variety that Drew mentioned that the AO-51 group wants to > provide for Field Day weekend. > > Just a thought... > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > Hi! > > With all the talk about the possibility of an L-band uplink and/or > S-band downlink on AO-51 since there will be at least 2 other V/U > FM satellites available during Field Day weekend, what about sticking > with the V/U frequency combination but go with something different > for the 2m uplink mode? Using SSB or even CW on the 2m uplink would > make AO-51 different than the other V/U satellites, yet still provide > a challenge that more stations could take on than L-band or S-band - > and the variety that Drew mentioned that the AO-51 group wants to > provide for Field Day weekend. > > Just a thought... > > 73! > > > The range of audio levels coming out of the SQRX on SSB is difficult to match to the FM transmitter. If you recall we've had problems with too strong stations on SSB up causing the FM transmitters to behave poorly and overdeviate. I can only imagine it would be 100 times worse on Field Day. It's a good mode when everyone behaves though! 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
Hi Drew! > The range of audio levels coming out of the SQRX on SSB is difficult to > match to the FM transmitter. If you recall we've had problems with too > strong stations on SSB up causing the FM transmitters to behave poorly and > overdeviate. I can only imagine it would be 100 times worse on Field Day. > It's a good mode when everyone behaves though! I guess I've missed those passes you mentioned. The issues I've heard working the cross-mode V/U passes tends to be centered on stations aligning their uplink signals to be heard by the SQRX receiver while compensating for Doppler. Even at 2m, that can be a challenge with an uplink receiver that has filtering to pass - I think - 4 kHz in SSB. Not the same as working FO-29 or HO-68 in SSB with the larger passbands. It is interesting that an organization like AMSAT, one that is trying to increase membership and raise funds for a new satellite, would try to limit the usefulness of its prime satellite to a few dozen stations (number based on WA4SCA's message from earlier today regarding L/U activity during Field Day last year) during the busiest on-air activity for hams across North America. Yes, V/U may be chaotic, no matter if the uplink mode is FM or SSB for Field Day. Work 20m SSB during Field Day, and that is also chaotic. We don't try to have ARRL rule out using SSB or CW on 20m during that weekend. Even V/U FM on AO-51 is a "good mode when everyone behaves", ;-) Again, just some thoughts and observations. It is good to see the discussion about something related to satellite operation here on the -BB. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
> > It is interesting that an organization like AMSAT, one that is trying > to increase membership and raise funds for a new satellite, would > try to limit the usefulness of its prime satellite to a few dozen > stations (number based on WA4SCA's message from earlier today > regarding L/U activity during Field Day last year) during the busiest > on-air activity for hams across North America. Yes, V/U may > be chaotic, no matter if the uplink mode is FM or SSB for Field Day. > Work 20m SSB during Field Day, and that is also chaotic. We don't > try to have ARRL rule out using SSB or CW on 20m during that > weekend. Even V/U FM on AO-51 is a "good mode when everyone > behaves", ;-) > No one is trying to limit the the usefulness. Exactly the opposite, the idea is to pick the mode that is the MOST useful. It's a quantity versus quality problem. On a typical V/U FM Field Day pass, very few contacts actually get made, and most of the pass (at least on the east coast) is nothing but a fragmented dogpile of pieces of calls, whistles, blowing in the mike, etc. Some people enjoy that, others walk away in disgust, and think "why would I want to be part of that mess". It's my contention that we pick a mode on AO-51 that provides a more challenging goal for the technically inclined portion of the hobby, encourages clubs to actively seek help from their local AMSAT types, and provides a more civilized environment on just one of the eight LEOs likely to be active that weekend. Think of it as showcasing what amateur satellites can be like on days other than Field Day. By limiting the accessibility, we improve the quality of the experience for those actively participating, and just listening. Again, AO-51 is one of many satellites. If it were just AO-51, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. One option that hasn't been floated is trying a mode switch on the early AM Sunday pass. We could go from L/U to V/U very easily. If we do this, I'd like to work with Bruce and actually count the number of QSOs reported per mode. 73, Drew KO4MA 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
. Good Stuff Clipped .. One option that hasn't been floated is trying a mode switch on the early AM Sunday pass. We could go from L/U to V/U very easily. If we do this, I'd like to work with Bruce and actually count the number of QSOs reported per mode. 73, Drew KO4MA That's a novel idea! I would support a mode change. They kept things interesting on AO-13 during Field Day. 73, Joe kk0sd ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
One thing I would like to see tried, perhaps for one FD as a test, would be to relax the restrictions on FM mode contacts where one or both of the frequencies is above 70 cm. That would certainly encourage people to try L/U or V/S. Based on last year's numbers, every L/U station could have worked every other station easily, given the shortness of a FD QSO. Considering that people manage to work these modes portable, and in the case of N5AFV, mobile, it is relatively easy to get on. The mode-S downlink is truly loud, easily overcoming the general 2.45 GHz QRM/QRN. Alan WA4SCA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
The trouble with V/S is that any clueless group trying to make a sat contact will be blindly transmitting on the 2m uplinks. Since nothing is being heard on the UHF downlink, they think the bird is open, so call CQ even more. Their thinking mode V/U, it totally blows away the S band D/L. This happened 3 or 4 years ago. The whole pass was people calling CQ FD without listening to the mode s D/L. A disaster. I don't think I heard even 1 contact being made on several east coast passes I tried. We have to remember there are a lot of groups trying to make a sat contact for the points, that don't read this SIG, so they just try calling on the V/U frequencies. I'm for L/U. It would be cool to try L/S, but I think I was told it isn't possible because it wouldn't leave a channel for control? 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:50 AM To: AMSAT-BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option One thing I would like to see tried, perhaps for one FD as a test, would be to relax the restrictions on FM mode contacts where one or both of the frequencies is above 70 cm. That would certainly encourage people to try L/U or V/S. Based on last year's numbers, every L/U station could have worked every other station easily, given the shortness of a FD QSO. Considering that people manage to work these modes portable, and in the case of N5AFV, mobile, it is relatively easy to get on. The mode-S downlink is truly loud, easily overcoming the general 2.45 GHz QRM/QRN. Alan WA4SCA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
I would vote for switching from L/U to V/U. I would love an opportunity to work a satellite on L band, if only for the technical challenge of it. Mode S would be harder to do, as I'd have to build a downconverter to hear it (though such a project would not be totally out of the question). My feeling is this--with 7(?) other birds up there, variety is a good thing. 73 de Mike KI4RIX On 05 May 2010, at 07:19, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > No one is trying to limit the the usefulness. Exactly the opposite, the > idea is to pick the mode that is the MOST useful. It's a quantity versus > quality problem. On a typical V/U FM Field Day pass, very few contacts > actually get made, and most of the pass (at least on the east coast) is > nothing but a fragmented dogpile of pieces of calls, whistles, blowing > in the mike, etc. Some people enjoy that, others walk away in disgust, > and think "why would I want to be part of that mess". > > It's my contention that we pick a mode on AO-51 that provides a more > challenging goal for the technically inclined portion of the hobby, > encourages clubs to actively seek help from their local AMSAT types, and > provides a more civilized environment on just one of the eight LEOs > likely to be active that weekend. Think of it as showcasing what amateur > satellites can be like on days other than Field Day. By limiting the > accessibility, we improve the quality of the experience for those > actively participating, and just listening. Again, AO-51 is one of many > satellites. If it were just AO-51, we wouldn't even be having this > conversation. > > One option that hasn't been floated is trying a mode switch on the early > AM Sunday pass. We could go from L/U to V/U very easily. If we do this, > I'd like to work with Bruce and actually count the number of QSOs > reported per mode. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Best regards, Mike Benonis m...@benonis.net KI4RIX ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
With other birds like AO-27 and SO-50 already in V/U FM mode and FO-29 VO-52 and possible AO-07 in SSB mode, I vote for L/U or V/S. The reason is during FD, we end up with stations/operators that have NEVER worked satellites before and end up adding to the already unusable uplink. It will also add flavor to the mix for FD. I feel that AO-51 during FD ends up being a contest of WHO HAS THE MOST POWER! WHO CAN FIND THE BIG AMP. Those are the few stations that end up making the contacts. - Original Message - From: "Mike Benonis" To: "BB" Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option >I would vote for switching from L/U to V/U. I would love an opportunity to >work a satellite on L band, if only for the technical challenge of it. >Mode S would be harder to do, as I'd have to build a downconverter to hear >it (though such a project would not be totally out of the question). > > My feeling is this--with 7(?) other birds up there, variety is a good > thing. > > 73 de Mike KI4RIX > > On 05 May 2010, at 07:19, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > >> No one is trying to limit the the usefulness. Exactly the opposite, the >> idea is to pick the mode that is the MOST useful. It's a quantity versus >> quality problem. On a typical V/U FM Field Day pass, very few contacts >> actually get made, and most of the pass (at least on the east coast) is >> nothing but a fragmented dogpile of pieces of calls, whistles, blowing >> in the mike, etc. Some people enjoy that, others walk away in disgust, >> and think "why would I want to be part of that mess". >> >> It's my contention that we pick a mode on AO-51 that provides a more >> challenging goal for the technically inclined portion of the hobby, >> encourages clubs to actively seek help from their local AMSAT types, and >> provides a more civilized environment on just one of the eight LEOs >> likely to be active that weekend. Think of it as showcasing what amateur >> satellites can be like on days other than Field Day. By limiting the >> accessibility, we improve the quality of the experience for those >> actively participating, and just listening. Again, AO-51 is one of many >> satellites. If it were just AO-51, we wouldn't even be having this >> conversation. >> >> One option that hasn't been floated is trying a mode switch on the early >> AM Sunday pass. We could go from L/U to V/U very easily. If we do this, >> I'd like to work with Bruce and actually count the number of QSOs >> reported per mode. >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> >> >> ___ >> Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > Best regards, > > Mike Benonis > m...@benonis.net > KI4RIX > > > ___ > Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
Hi Drew! Thanks for your reply. Having this discussion out in the open is a good thing. > No one is trying to limit the the usefulness. Exactly the opposite, the idea > is to pick the mode that is the MOST useful. It's a quantity versus quality > problem. On a typical V/U FM Field Day pass, very few contacts actually get > made, and most of the pass (at least on the east coast) is nothing but a > fragmented dogpile of pieces of calls, whistles, blowing in the mike, etc. > Some people enjoy that, others walk away in disgust, and think "why would I > want to be part of that mess". As with any other part of the hobby, if operators choose not to cooperate, problems like that will occur. The same thing happens on HF during a contest or trying to work a DXpedition. With cooperation, at least 40 or more QSOs could be completed on a 15-minute AO-51 V/U FM pass. It is unfortunate that some (many?) do not take the time to get familiar with satellite operating before Field Day weekend. In a less-than-perfect situation those operators who are able to complete the QSOs would be a great example of what the situation could be if we were in an emergency situation instead of a weekend operating exercise or "contest". > It's my contention that we pick a mode on AO-51 that provides a more > challenging goal for the technically inclined portion of the hobby, > encourages clubs to actively seek help from their local AMSAT types, and > provides a more civilized environment on just one of the eight LEOs likely > to be active that weekend. Think of it as showcasing what amateur satellites > can be like on days other than Field Day. By limiting the accessibility, we > improve the quality of the experience for those actively participating, and and possibly paint an inaccurate picture of amateur satellite operation on days other than Field Day, to someone listening to the activity? If only a few dozen stations are going to be able to use an L/U configuration throughout Field Day weekend, and even fewer an L/S configuration, is this really what amateur satellites are like on days other than Field Day? Beyond my own recordings of passes I have worked and listened to since early 2005, K8YSE has an archive of MP3 recordings of FM satellite activity over the past several weeks. Many passes that are not way out over an ocean will have more activity than an L/U or L/S pass will be able to offer with the current numbers of stations capable of those configurations. Right now, it is a "chicken and egg" situation - with only one satellite with L or S capability, not many will add these to their stations unless there were more options to use the gear. S is easier to deal with than L, with the strong downlink signals from AO-51 copyable with downconverters and simple S-band antennas, but still a smaller number of stations on S than V/U using FM, SSB, CW, etc. Your response from earlier this morning included my comments about AMSAT and its fundraising goals and increasing its membership. I appreciate that you, as one who wears many hats for AMSAT (director, officer, volunteer, and probably a few others), picked up on that. AMSAT should be interested in ensuring that it is an organization interested in building up its membership. This, in turn, will help in the fundraising efforts. Otherwise, catering to a few dozen stations for Field Day weekend may turn off more people from taking up this part of our hobby than a crowded pass might. Judging from the numbers of unique callsigns in my log, I contend that the chaotic V/U FM passes during past Field Day weekends haven't kept people from getting out and trying the FM satellites. If the scheduling caters to that small number of stations that can work L/U or L/S, this may cause some to think AMSAT is an elitist organization. I hear that from time to time at the hamfests I attend, whether I'm talking with some who were active in the days or AO-10, AO-13, or even in AO-7's first life in the 70s. > just listening. Again, AO-51 is one of many satellites. If it were just > AO-51, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Since AO-51 has the flexibility that the other satellites lack, we are able to have this discussion regardless of the status of other satellites. If AO-51 was the only satellite, there would probably still be some discussion due to this satellite's flexibility. > One option that hasn't been floated is trying a mode switch on the early AM > Sunday pass. We could go from L/U to V/U very easily. If we do this, I'd > like to work with Bruce and actually count the number of QSOs reported per > mode. Now this would be interesting. There would need to be a command station available during the weekend - either a west-coast station during the last Saturday evening pass, or an east-coast station for the first Sunday morning pass - to make this work. Could you please check with the command stations, and see if this is something that you (or one of the other comma
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - another option
There seems to be multiple goals at play here. I'm not sure that there is one mode that will be best suited for all of them. Goal 1: Provide a mode that will encourage non-satellite hams to become interested in AMSAT based on what they see at Field Day. Some think that if you reduce the qrm by using L/U or L/S, more will be likely to get into satellites because there is no crowding and no sign of chaos during Field Day. Why present a false impression? Things do get crowded; you find a way to make your contact in spite of the conditions. Think about it and find a way that works for you. Refine it based on experience. This is what ham radio is all about. There is no best way that works for everyone. You just work with what you have. If you want a clear private channel, satellites are not the solution. Limiting AO-51 to L/U or L/S means that not many clubs will be using AO-51 to demonstrate satellite operations to the non-satellite people. Not many have equipment for these modes; most will try a V/U bird and not bother with AO-51 if it is in L/U or L/S. The driving force for clubs to work satellites is the 100 bonus points. Since most people have FM radios, they are going to try for the V/U birds. This is the entry level for any new satellite operator. You don't start with L/U or L/S because it is costly compared to V/U and we don't have a bird that is in those modes very often. Goal 2: Make working AO-51 challenging It is certainly a challenge to get things working on L/S or L/U. Only a few have equipment that they use when AO-51 is in these modes. It's mostly the same people every time and a very small percentage of the total satellite population. You are not challenging very many by using these modes; only a few will try. Goal 3: Get more people to participate in the AMSAT contest that runs concurrently with Field Day. A voice contact on AO-51 mode L/U or L/S is worth one point. If you are trying win a contest, why expend all that effort to get on these modes when the reward is only one point? If you want people to spend the effort to get on these modes, make it worth their while. Give 25 points for an L/U or L/S contact. I might even take down my 13T W7LRD Helix and haul it over to field day for 25 points! Otherwise it's going to stay right where it is on the tower. Now a few notes about my experience from last year's field day contest: The Northern Ohio DX Association placed first in the AMSAT competition in 2009, Doug KD8CAO made the voice contacts and I made the CW contacts. We were the only entry that made both a L/U and a V/U contact on AO-51. Interestingly, we were not able to complete a contact on AO-27. We did make a contact on SO-50. We were also very fortunate to make a contact with the ISS and that, by far, created the most excitement at our Field Day even if it did not count as a qso for the ARRL or the AMSAT competition. You make your points on the SSB/CW birds. We had 24 SSB contacts and 15 CW contacts on AO-7, VO-52 and FO-29. If we have HO-68 in this mode for Field Day, you can expect scores to be higher than in 2009. The linear birds were pretty crowded and there was qrm. But it was no different than operating on the HF bands as someone else mentioned. Those that were watching and listening were certainly not discouraged. One of the top contenders in last year's AMSAT Field Day competition would not work us because they had made a contact with us on another bird. So you waste time trying to contact someone and finally get through only to be told you're a dupe. Yes, you are a dupe under the ARRL rules so you can't count the contact there, but you can and should count the qso for the AMSAT competition. There is no conflict here; you just don't submit those ARRL "dupes" as valid qso's. You can be in both contests and play by both rules. Suggestion for 2010: If at all possible, run the same modes as last year, L/U and V/U. Adjust the power levels to 400mw on each transmitter if the power budget will allow it. If only one transmitter can be supported, use V/U. Many more will try to make a contact and that is what we want to encourage. If you have it in L/U or L/S, not many will try. We should be striving for a mode that will be attempted by as many clubs as possible. AO-27 is a great bird but it is always at a high elevation over the US when it is "on." You can work AO-51 when it is much lower on the horizon, thereby reducing the number of stations trying to use it. You are more likely to make a V/U contact on AO-51 than you are on AO-27 because of that. Our experience last year bears this out. I think there is more potential to make qso's on AO-51 in the V/U mode this year because the first pass comes over the east coast very early, around 5am Sunday morning. If the bird is in L/S for Saturday's passes, the mode should be switched to V/U early in that pass out over the Atlantic if that plan is chosen. Last year the first pass was at 6:45am ED
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - THANK YOU!
You're welcome :) Thank Drew, actually. Everybody can get a shot at their preferred mode--1 day of V/U, 1 day of V/S--seemed like a good compromise. 73! Mark N8MH At 11:07 AM 6/2/2010 -0700, Ng, Peter wrote: >To the AO-51 Project Team: > >Thanks so much for the V/U mode during field day! :) > >73, Peter VE7NGP >___ >Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day AO-51 configuration - THANK YOU!
Yes, absolutely...thanks Drew! Your decision is very much appreciated! 73, Peter VE7NGP >You're welcome :) Thank Drew, actually. >Everybody can get a shot at their preferred mode--1 day of V/U, 1 day of >V/S--seemed like a good compromise. >73! >Mark N8MH ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
