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Anish, Good thoughts! Wait until Raavan, man. You will be blown away for sure --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2...@... wrote: Hey, Yes I guess ur right..I cannot comment on how Rahman wanted his songs to be...However I sumhow didnt connect with his experimentation in Yaar Nila Thai guess Rahman is most effective when he sticks to his vintage style...soulful, rich music ... I think composing club songs and fast paced numbers is not really his strength.(of course there rae some exceptions...like fanaa, songs from thakshak etc)... On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:02 PM, ichord purev...@... wrote: Anish, Just curious. How do you think specifically that song should have turned out? In what ways musically should have happened than what we're hearing? Don't you think if AR wasn't happy with the way the song turned out, he wouldn't have used it or done another song? Maybe AR was happy with the way the song turned out because it met the requirement for the scene in the movie, something which we don't yet know. Even if a song is simple in terms of music, it can still be a good song. Not every song ARR creates has to be musically brilliant and complex. It's good that Rahman can be simple in his musical approach at timesadds to much to his versatility and scope as a composer. In fact, to me, the hallmark of a great composer is also the ability to show restraint, not just pour it on for every song or composition. If you don't like the song, that's fine with me. Lot of people don't like it, but a lot of people do like it too. But, to assume that the song didn't turn out the way Rahman wanted it is quite presumptuous in my opinion. I know you love ARR and his music, so would never question that. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Hi Guys... Hows it goin?? looks like my one sentence has generated some pretty exciting reactions!!! [?] OK...so let me clarify what I implied... A.R.Rahman probably expected the song (Yaar Mila Tha) to turn out in a certain way. But, unfortunately, in my opinion he has not been successful in achieving that standard. The song has not turned out as good as it should/or rather could have been. I did not mean to disrespect him..Be rest assured that I have the same feelings fr him as u do (both as a composer and a person) My god!! u guys are really strongly attached to this dude!.. Anish On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:21 PM, ichord purevibz@ wrote: I understand your feelings about it. Even I thought it was a bit harsh, but he probably didn't mean it to come out that way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb jahanzebtippu@ wrote: ichord, Well it wasn't about disliking a song. I myselft is a harsh critic of many of his recent songs. I just felt the comment Rahman screws up big time a bit disrespectful, given that we deeply respect him both as a composer and human-being. Anyway may be this is only me who felt that way. never mind. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, ichord purevibz@ wrote: Hey Tippu, Let's take it easy. Even Rahman fans can be critical of his music and not like one of his songs. To be a Rahman fan, you don't have to like each and every song of his. Come on, man. Let's not get started on who is a real fan, etc. etc., and I have seen comments much, much worse in this group. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, Tippu jahanzebtippu@ wrote: Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about)
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Hey, Yes I guess ur right..I cannot comment on how Rahman wanted his songs to be...However I sumhow didnt connect with his experimentation in Yaar Nila Thai guess Rahman is most effective when he sticks to his vintage style...soulful, rich music ... I think composing club songs and fast paced numbers is not really his strength.(of course there rae some exceptions...like fanaa, songs from thakshak etc)... On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:02 PM, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Anish, Just curious. How do you think specifically that song should have turned out? In what ways musically should have happened than what we're hearing? Don't you think if AR wasn't happy with the way the song turned out, he wouldn't have used it or done another song? Maybe AR was happy with the way the song turned out because it met the requirement for the scene in the movie, something which we don't yet know. Even if a song is simple in terms of music, it can still be a good song. Not every song ARR creates has to be musically brilliant and complex. It's good that Rahman can be simple in his musical approach at timesadds to much to his versatility and scope as a composer. In fact, to me, the hallmark of a great composer is also the ability to show restraint, not just pour it on for every song or composition. If you don't like the song, that's fine with me. Lot of people don't like it, but a lot of people do like it too. But, to assume that the song didn't turn out the way Rahman wanted it is quite presumptuous in my opinion. I know you love ARR and his music, so would never question that. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2...@... wrote: Hi Guys... Hows it goin?? looks like my one sentence has generated some pretty exciting reactions!!! [?] OK...so let me clarify what I implied... A.R.Rahman probably expected the song (Yaar Mila Tha) to turn out in a certain way. But, unfortunately, in my opinion he has not been successful in achieving that standard. The song has not turned out as good as it should/or rather could have been. I did not mean to disrespect him..Be rest assured that I have the same feelings fr him as u do (both as a composer and a person) My god!! u guys are really strongly attached to this dude!.. Anish On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:21 PM, ichord purev...@... wrote: I understand your feelings about it. Even I thought it was a bit harsh, but he probably didn't mean it to come out that way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb jahanzebtippu@ wrote: ichord, Well it wasn't about disliking a song. I myselft is a harsh critic of many of his recent songs. I just felt the comment Rahman screws up big time a bit disrespectful, given that we deeply respect him both as a composer and human-being. Anyway may be this is only me who felt that way. never mind. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, ichord purevibz@ wrote: Hey Tippu, Let's take it easy. Even Rahman fans can be critical of his music and not like one of his songs. To be a Rahman fan, you don't have to like each and every song of his. Come on, man. Let's not get started on who is a real fan, etc. etc., and I have seen comments much, much worse in this group. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, Tippu jahanzebtippu@ wrote: Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about)
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it all boils down to personal taste and interpretation of rahman's music. Each one has a theory on what rahman does best. Being a fan one must never say , rahman always does good music. I am full on rahman ..but i do think rahman is kind of low in club bangers - like the ones to let you hair loose and dance. But he makes it up by giving god level sufi stuff, ballads and themes. No one makes a score he does. Just no one. In that light if i find one or two songs bad then its reasonable.i think thats what being a fan is. Critisise and make sure it reaches him. And this is the medium. Regards Wb On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:50 IST ichord wrote: Hey Tippu, Let's take it easy. Even Rahman fans can be critical of his music and not like one of his songs. To be a Rahman fan, you don't have to like each and every song of his. Come on, man. Let's not get started on who is a real fan, etc. etc., and I have seen comments much, much worse in this group. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Tippu jahanzebti...@... wrote: Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about) From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[arr] Re: Blue- Mixed Sounds?
ichord, Well it wasn't about disliking a song. I myselft is a harsh critic of many of his recent songs. I just felt the comment Rahman screws up big time a bit disrespectful, given that we deeply respect him both as a composer and human-being. Anyway may be this is only me who felt that way. never mind. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ichord purev...@... wrote: Hey Tippu, Let's take it easy. Even Rahman fans can be critical of his music and not like one of his songs. To be a Rahman fan, you don't have to like each and every song of his. Come on, man. Let's not get started on who is a real fan, etc. etc., and I have seen comments much, much worse in this group. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Tippu jahanzebtippu@ wrote: Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about)
[arr] Re: Blue- Mixed Sounds?
I understand your feelings about it. Even I thought it was a bit harsh, but he probably didn't mean it to come out that way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@... wrote: ichord, Well it wasn't about disliking a song. I myselft is a harsh critic of many of his recent songs. I just felt the comment Rahman screws up big time a bit disrespectful, given that we deeply respect him both as a composer and human-being. Anyway may be this is only me who felt that way. never mind. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ichord purevibz@ wrote: Hey Tippu, Let's take it easy. Even Rahman fans can be critical of his music and not like one of his songs. To be a Rahman fan, you don't have to like each and every song of his. Come on, man. Let's not get started on who is a real fan, etc. etc., and I have seen comments much, much worse in this group. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Tippu jahanzebtippu@ wrote: Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about)
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Hi Guys... Hows it goin?? looks like my one sentence has generated some pretty exciting reactions!!! [?] OK...so let me clarify what I implied... A.R.Rahman probably expected the song (Yaar Mila Tha) to turn out in a certain way. But, unfortunately, in my opinion he has not been successful in achieving that standard. The song has not turned out as good as it should/or rather could have been. I did not mean to disrespect him..Be rest assured that I have the same feelings fr him as u do (both as a composer and a person) My god!! u guys are really strongly attached to this dude!.. Anish On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:21 PM, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I understand your feelings about it. Even I thought it was a bit harsh, but he probably didn't mean it to come out that way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@... wrote: ichord, Well it wasn't about disliking a song. I myselft is a harsh critic of many of his recent songs. I just felt the comment Rahman screws up big time a bit disrespectful, given that we deeply respect him both as a composer and human-being. Anyway may be this is only me who felt that way. never mind. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, ichord purevibz@ wrote: Hey Tippu, Let's take it easy. Even Rahman fans can be critical of his music and not like one of his songs. To be a Rahman fan, you don't have to like each and every song of his. Come on, man. Let's not get started on who is a real fan, etc. etc., and I have seen comments much, much worse in this group. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Tippu jahanzebtippu@ wrote: Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about) 330.gif
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Anish, Just curious. How do you think specifically that song should have turned out? In what ways musically should have happened than what we're hearing? Don't you think if AR wasn't happy with the way the song turned out, he wouldn't have used it or done another song? Maybe AR was happy with the way the song turned out because it met the requirement for the scene in the movie, something which we don't yet know. Even if a song is simple in terms of music, it can still be a good song. Not every song ARR creates has to be musically brilliant and complex. It's good that Rahman can be simple in his musical approach at timesadds to much to his versatility and scope as a composer. In fact, to me, the hallmark of a great composer is also the ability to show restraint, not just pour it on for every song or composition. If you don't like the song, that's fine with me. Lot of people don't like it, but a lot of people do like it too. But, to assume that the song didn't turn out the way Rahman wanted it is quite presumptuous in my opinion. I know you love ARR and his music, so would never question that. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2...@... wrote: Hi Guys... Hows it goin?? looks like my one sentence has generated some pretty exciting reactions!!! [?] OK...so let me clarify what I implied... A.R.Rahman probably expected the song (Yaar Mila Tha) to turn out in a certain way. But, unfortunately, in my opinion he has not been successful in achieving that standard. The song has not turned out as good as it should/or rather could have been. I did not mean to disrespect him..Be rest assured that I have the same feelings fr him as u do (both as a composer and a person) My god!! u guys are really strongly attached to this dude!.. Anish On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:21 PM, ichord purev...@... wrote: I understand your feelings about it. Even I thought it was a bit harsh, but he probably didn't mean it to come out that way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb jahanzebtippu@ wrote: ichord, Well it wasn't about disliking a song. I myselft is a harsh critic of many of his recent songs. I just felt the comment Rahman screws up big time a bit disrespectful, given that we deeply respect him both as a composer and human-being. Anyway may be this is only me who felt that way. never mind. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, ichord purevibz@ wrote: Hey Tippu, Let's take it easy. Even Rahman fans can be critical of his music and not like one of his songs. To be a Rahman fan, you don't have to like each and every song of his. Come on, man. Let's not get started on who is a real fan, etc. etc., and I have seen comments much, much worse in this group. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Tippu jahanzebtippu@ wrote: Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about)
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Hey Anish, Respect your review, man. Good job! I would rate this album 4/5 personally, but I see where you're coming from. I'm hoping repeated listens will help you like this album more, but if not, oh well...at least you enjoy a couple of the songs. In every ARR soundtrack, there is always something salvagable, even if the whole soundtrack disappoints you. Rahman has experimented a lot with Blue. About Yaar Mila, it is pretty minimalistic by ARR's standards of musical complexity. I noted too that I wished there were better musical interludes in that song. I enjoy this song because I see it like a folk songsimple, fun, something that a couple would sing if they're in love, or teasing each other, or engaging in light banter, like flirting with each other. So, the director may have asked ARR to give a very light treatment to the song. Maybe once you see how the song fits in the movie, you may appreciate it more. It's the pure, raw melody of the song that attracts me. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2...@... wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about)
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Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2...@... wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about)
[arr] Re: Blue- Mixed Sounds?
Hey Tippu, Let's take it easy. Even Rahman fans can be critical of his music and not like one of his songs. To be a Rahman fan, you don't have to like each and every song of his. Come on, man. Let's not get started on who is a real fan, etc. etc., and I have seen comments much, much worse in this group. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Tippu jahanzebti...@... wrote: Rahman screws up big time.. are these words coming from a Rahman fan??? surprised, never seen comments like this before in this group. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Guys...I forgot to mention one song in my review Yaar Mila Tha...Well...what can is say...this song is pretty disappointing...i simply cannot understand the hype with this one..Rahman screws up big time...Its nothing but a hish hash of beats...the singing is OK...the song is reasonably catchy...but again...falling very short of Rahmans standards.. Yes...so Rating once again Blue: *** (just about)
