Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !!
I am of the opinion that VM and Vaali are the best Lyricist A R R has worked with in tamil. VM- A R R - Manirathnam songs are anyday special, every song of this combination becomes a evergreen hit, also VM- A R R - bharathiraja's .I think the director plays a very important role in extracting work form a lyricist, more than the tunes. When the song has to express strong emotions, i would prefer VM and when the song has to be a peppy one just for the moment Vaali rocks with his mischievous lyrics. Eagerly waiting for Ravanan, and also enthiran, VM had recently read few words out of the song, which are good. -- Truth is the only God Humanity is the only Religion Love is the only prayer
Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !!
ARR-VM combo is no doubt the best. ARR music best suits for VM words. I never found any songs of ARR without VM sounded as beautiful as ARR and VM and VM words never sounded sweeter without ARR. They go together so well. :) A classic example is Roja. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Madhu.Sudhan d madhusudhan.51...@... wrote: I am of the opinion that VM and Vaali are the best Lyricist A R R has worked with in tamil. VM- A R R - Manirathnam songs are anyday special, every song of this combination becomes a evergreen hit, also VM- A R R - bharathiraja's .I think the director plays a very important role in extracting work form a lyricist, more than the tunes. When the song has to express strong emotions, i would prefer VM and when the song has to be a peppy one just for the moment Vaali rocks with his mischievous lyrics. Eagerly waiting for Ravanan, and also enthiran, VM had recently read few words out of the song, which are good. -- Truth is the only God Humanity is the only Religion Love is the only prayer
Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !!
Personally, I feel that Thamarai has done a commendable job in VTV. It's never easy to write the lyrics for ARR's compositions and yet she has managed came out with flying colours. Her lyrics might not have been poetically inclined, but as Srinivasa rightly pointed out, they fitted the film like a T. In fact, I humbly believe that the lyrics have done more than captured the essence of the film. Frankly speaking, the film didn't work wonders for me. But the characters did. I think Karthik and especially Jesse are the most complex and at the same time uncomplicated characters ever introduced in tamil film industry. They believe in what they want and they're direct and frank with their feelings...yet, they choose to live in dilemma. This spells out the exact position of many youths of today. And with characters woven in such a manner, the lyrics have to be written in the similar way- forthright and candid! And that's exactly what Thamarai did and that's where she scored. On the other hand, there can never be another Vairamuthu, as there can never be another Kannadasan, Vaali, Thamarai, Pa. Vijay etc. I strongly believe that each and every artist have their capabilities and limitations and to compare them with another is not only impractical but preposterous too. Regards. --- On Wed, 3/17/10, jayram jayram...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jayram jayram...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:15 PM I did not know that Thamarai won the best Lyricist for the song Injarungo Injarungo from Thenali. Interesting news for me. I have to listen to the song one more time paying special attention to the lyrics. Coming back to VTV, maybe the lyrics fits well with the movie, but poetically speaking the words and the imaginations were pretty average. I wish we have more lyricist in Tamil on the caliber of Gulzar or Javeed Aktar. What happened to ARR-Vairamuthu' s Sir combination ? I am terribly missing it. They were a mind blowing pair and I really wish they come back once again and make me sit back and take a notice of the lyrics in ARR's songs. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Srinivasa Krishnan srinivaasakrishnan v...@... wrote: The lyrics are perfect fit for the movie.. Lyrics should reflect the mood of the movie and it happened very well in VTV.. This is the second time, Thamarai is working with ARR.. She worked in Thenali for Injarungo and had won a Tamilnadu State Award for Best Lyricist. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, jayram m.n jayram...@. .. wrote: I admire and enjoy some of the good songs written by Thamarai. She has given some memorable pieces like Suttum Velli Sudarey from Ghagni, Kangal irandal from Subramanyapuram and so many others. The list is pretty long. But my overall impression is that the lyrics in VTV was kind of average lyrics (or below average). (1) Hosanna and Ommna Penne - Both these songs can be remembered without any lyrics, because of the catchy tune, main tag-word selected for the songs. (2) Vinnaithaandi varuvaya and Manipaaya - Better lyrics with good flow of words in both these songs. Definitely promising. (3) Anbil Avan : Okay lyrics (most of the lyrics consists of rehashed marriage oaths which is a cool idea). (4) Kannukul Kannai : Sounds more like a dialogue rather than a poem. (4) Since I don't understand Malayalam, I cannot say much about Aromale lyrics. But from the translation that appeared in this forum, the lyrics sounds quite impressive and imaginative. She has definitely struggled to write the songs for VTV. Perhaps she needs to work more with ARR Sir to understand his style of composition and tunes to give much better lyrics. Sorry for being little bit harsh with my review, but I expect more memorable lyrics Thamarai (especially with ARR Sir).
Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !!
One good thing with Thamarai's lyrics is that they are sans vulgars words, and written generally with clean tamil words. She has definitely brought some fresh thoughts into Tamil songs with her perspective. I also appreciated her lyrics in Kakka Kakka or Varanam Aayiram. These all are commendable. My personal opinion is that her VTV lyrics is pretty ordinary (walk as your shadow behind, dream about you with open eyes, stole my eyes, cannot forget you etc). She can definitely do much much better. On the other hand ARR's sir music has got really complicated these days, and its a BIG BIG challenge for lyrics writers to do their best. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: Personally, I feel that Thamarai has done a commendable job in VTV. It's never easy to write the lyrics for ARR's compositions and yet she has managed came out with flying colours. Her lyrics might not have been poetically inclined, but as Srinivasa rightly pointed out, they fitted the film like a T. In fact, I humbly believe that the lyrics have done more than captured the essence of the film. Frankly speaking, the film didn't work wonders for me. But the characters did. I think Karthik and especially Jesse are the most complex and at the same time uncomplicated characters ever introduced in tamil film industry. They believe in what they want and they're direct and frank with their feelings...yet, they choose to live in dilemma. This spells out the exact position of many youths of today. And with characters woven in such a manner, the lyrics have to be written in the similar way- forthright and candid! And that's exactly what Thamarai did and that's where she scored. On the other hand, there can never be another Vairamuthu, as there can never be another Kannadasan, Vaali, Thamarai, Pa. Vijay etc. I strongly believe that each and every artist have their capabilities and limitations and to compare them with another is not only impractical but preposterous too. Regards. --- On Wed, 3/17/10, jayram jayram...@... wrote: From: jayram jayram...@... Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:15 PM Â I did not know that Thamarai won the best Lyricist for the song Injarungo Injarungo from Thenali. Interesting news for me. I have to listen to the song one more time paying special attention to the lyrics. Coming back to VTV, maybe the lyrics fits well with the movie, but poetically speaking the words and the imaginations were pretty average. I wish we have more lyricist in Tamil on the caliber of Gulzar or Javeed Aktar. What happened to ARR-Vairamuthu' s Sir combination ? I am terribly missing it. They were a mind blowing pair and I really wish they come back once again and make me sit back and take a notice of the lyrics in ARR's songs. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Srinivasa Krishnan srinivaasakrishnan v...@... wrote: The lyrics are perfect fit for the movie.. Lyrics should reflect the mood of the movie and it happened very well in VTV.. This is the second time, Thamarai is working with ARR.. She worked in Thenali for Injarungo and had won a Tamilnadu State Award for Best Lyricist. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, jayram m.n jayram_mn@ .. wrote: I admire and enjoy some of the good songs written by Thamarai. She has given some memorable pieces like Suttum Velli Sudarey from Ghagni, Kangal irandal from Subramanyapuram and so many others. The list is pretty long. But my overall impression is that the lyrics in VTV was kind of average lyrics (or below average). (1) Hosanna and Ommna Penne - Both these songs can be remembered without any lyrics, because of the catchy tune, main tag-word selected for the songs. (2) Vinnaithaandi varuvaya and Manipaaya - Better lyrics with good flow of words in both these songs. Definitely promising. (3) Anbil Avan : Okay lyrics (most of the lyrics consists of rehashed marriage oaths which is a cool idea). (4) Kannukul Kannai : Sounds more like a dialogue rather than a poem. (4) Since I don't understand Malayalam, I cannot say much about Aromale lyrics. But from the translation that appeared in this forum, the lyrics sounds quite impressive and imaginative. She has definitely struggled to write the songs for VTV. Perhaps she needs to work more with ARR Sir to understand his style of composition and tunes to give much better lyrics. Sorry for being little bit harsh with my review, but I expect more memorable lyrics Thamarai (especially with ARR Sir).
Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !!
I recall Simbu mention during his interview in coffee with Anu that he prefers the lyrics of the songs to be in a casual language and not in proper films. His view was that when the characters speak normal Tamil why should the songs alone have poetic verses. So I guess Thamarai just delivered what she was asked to do. Film music is not just about showing off your brilliance in every song but also giving what the movie and the creative team demands. I too agree that it's difficult to write lyrics for ARs compositions and Thamarai has done a decent job in this movie. On a related topic, I watched the movie with english subtitles and Hosanna was translated as 'Praise be to Love'. PS: My response to Simbu's logic would be that if films have to be natural, you shouldn't be having songs et all :) __ Cheers, Srini http://vacantstands.blogspot.com/ On 19-Mar-2010, at 2:41 PM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: Personally, I feel that Thamarai has done a commendable job in VTV. It's never easy to write the lyrics for ARR's compositions and yet she has managed came out with flying colours. Her lyrics might not have been poetically inclined, but as Srinivasa rightly pointed out, they fitted the film like a T. In fact, I humbly believe that the lyrics have done more than captured the essence of the film. Frankly speaking, the film didn't work wonders for me. But the characters did. I think Karthik and especially Jesse are the most complex and at the same time uncomplicated characters ever introduced in tamil film industry. They believe in what they want and they're direct and frank with their feelings...yet, they choose to live in dilemma. This spells out the exact position of many youths of today. And with characters woven in such a manner, the lyrics have to be written in the similar way- forthright and candid! And that's exactly what Thamarai did and that's where she scored. On the other hand, there can never be another Vairamuthu, as there can never be another Kannadasan, Vaali, Thamarai, Pa. Vijay etc. I strongly believe that each and every artist have their capabilities and limitations and to compare them with another is not only impractical but preposterous too. Regards. --- On Wed, 3/17/10, jayram jayram...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jayram jayram...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:15 PM I did not know that Thamarai won the best Lyricist for the song Injarungo Injarungo from Thenali. Interesting news for me. I have to listen to the song one more time paying special attention to the lyrics. Coming back to VTV, maybe the lyrics fits well with the movie, but poetically speaking the words and the imaginations were pretty average. I wish we have more lyricist in Tamil on the caliber of Gulzar or Javeed Aktar. What happened to ARR-Vairamuthu' s Sir combination ? I am terribly missing it. They were a mind blowing pair and I really wish they come back once again and make me sit back and take a notice of the lyrics in ARR's songs. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Srinivasa Krishnan srinivaasakrishnan v...@... wrote: The lyrics are perfect fit for the movie.. Lyrics should reflect the mood of the movie and it happened very well in VTV.. This is the second time, Thamarai is working with ARR.. She worked in Thenali for Injarungo and had won a Tamilnadu State Award for Best Lyricist. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, jayram m.n jayram...@. .. wrote: I admire and enjoy some of the good songs written by Thamarai. She has given some memorable pieces like Suttum Velli Sudarey from Ghagni, Kangal irandal from Subramanyapuram and so many others. The list is pretty long. But my overall impression is that the lyrics in VTV was kind of average lyrics (or below average). (1) Hosanna and Ommna Penne - Both these songs can be remembered without any lyrics, because of the catchy tune, main tag-word selected for the songs. (2) Vinnaithaandi varuvaya and Manipaaya - Better lyrics with good flow of words in both these songs. Definitely promising. (3) Anbil Avan : Okay lyrics (most of the lyrics consists of rehashed marriage oaths which is a cool idea). (4) Kannukul Kannai : Sounds more like a dialogue rather than a poem. (4) Since I don't understand Malayalam, I cannot say much about Aromale lyrics. But from the translation that appeared in this forum, the lyrics sounds quite impressive and imaginative. She has definitely struggled to write the songs for VTV. Perhaps she needs to work more with ARR Sir to understand his style of composition and tunes to give much better lyrics. Sorry for being little bit harsh with my review, but I expect more memorable lyrics Thamarai
Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !!
VM and AR there together for enthiran for sure. I think they are in for Ravaan as well. Not sure abt Ravan though --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, jayram jayram...@... wrote: I did not know that Thamarai won the best Lyricist for the song Injarungo Injarungo from Thenali. Interesting news for me. I have to listen to the song one more time paying special attention to the lyrics. Coming back to VTV, maybe the lyrics fits well with the movie, but poetically speaking the words and the imaginations were pretty average. I wish we have more lyricist in Tamil on the caliber of Gulzar or Javeed Aktar. What happened to ARR-Vairamuthu's Sir combination ? I am terribly missing it. They were a mind blowing pair and I really wish they come back once again and make me sit back and take a notice of the lyrics in ARR's songs. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Srinivasa Krishnan srinivaasakrishnanv@ wrote: The lyrics are perfect fit for the movie.. Lyrics should reflect the mood of the movie and it happened very well in VTV.. This is the second time, Thamarai is working with ARR.. She worked in Thenali for Injarungo and had won a Tamilnadu State Award for Best Lyricist. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, jayram m.n jayram_mn@ wrote: I admire and enjoy some of the good songs written by Thamarai. She has given some memorable pieces like Suttum Velli Sudarey from Ghagni, Kangal irandal from Subramanyapuram and so many others. The list is pretty long. But my overall impression is that the lyrics in VTV was kind of average lyrics (or below average). (1) Hosanna and Ommna Penne - Both these songs can be remembered without any lyrics, because of the catchy tune, main tag-word selected for the songs. (2) Vinnaithaandi varuvaya and Manipaaya - Better lyrics with good flow of words in both these songs. Definitely promising. (3) Anbil Avan : Okay lyrics (most of the lyrics consists of rehashed marriage oaths which is a cool idea). (4) Kannukul Kannai : Sounds more like a dialogue rather than a poem. (4) Since I don't understand Malayalam, I cannot say much about Aromale lyrics. But from the translation that appeared in this forum, the lyrics sounds quite impressive and imaginative. She has definitely struggled to write the songs for VTV. Perhaps she needs to work more with ARR Sir to understand his style of composition and tunes to give much better lyrics. Sorry for being little bit harsh with my review, but I expect more memorable lyrics Thamarai (especially with ARR Sir).
Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !!
I did not know that Thamarai won the best Lyricist for the song Injarungo Injarungo from Thenali. Interesting news for me. I have to listen to the song one more time paying special attention to the lyrics. Coming back to VTV, maybe the lyrics fits well with the movie, but poetically speaking the words and the imaginations were pretty average. I wish we have more lyricist in Tamil on the caliber of Gulzar or Javeed Aktar. What happened to ARR-Vairamuthu's Sir combination ? I am terribly missing it. They were a mind blowing pair and I really wish they come back once again and make me sit back and take a notice of the lyrics in ARR's songs. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Srinivasa Krishnan srinivaasakrishn...@... wrote: The lyrics are perfect fit for the movie.. Lyrics should reflect the mood of the movie and it happened very well in VTV.. This is the second time, Thamarai is working with ARR.. She worked in Thenali for Injarungo and had won a Tamilnadu State Award for Best Lyricist. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, jayram m.n jayram...@... wrote: I admire and enjoy some of the good songs written by Thamarai. She has given some memorable pieces like Suttum Velli Sudarey from Ghagni, Kangal irandal from Subramanyapuram and so many others. The list is pretty long. But my overall impression is that the lyrics in VTV was kind of average lyrics (or below average). (1) Hosanna and Ommna Penne - Both these songs can be remembered without any lyrics, because of the catchy tune, main tag-word selected for the songs. (2) Vinnaithaandi varuvaya and Manipaaya - Better lyrics with good flow of words in both these songs. Definitely promising. (3) Anbil Avan : Okay lyrics (most of the lyrics consists of rehashed marriage oaths which is a cool idea). (4) Kannukul Kannai : Sounds more like a dialogue rather than a poem. (4) Since I don't understand Malayalam, I cannot say much about Aromale lyrics. But from the translation that appeared in this forum, the lyrics sounds quite impressive and imaginative. She has definitely struggled to write the songs for VTV. Perhaps she needs to work more with ARR Sir to understand his style of composition and tunes to give much better lyrics. Sorry for being little bit harsh with my review, but I expect more memorable lyrics Thamarai (especially with ARR Sir).
Re: [arr] VTV Lyrics, Thamarai and Vairamuthu !!
Coming soon for RAAVAN. Six Songs penned by VM. Robot Endhiran also will have VM. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:45 AM, jayram jayram...@yahoo.com wrote: I did not know that Thamarai won the best Lyricist for the song Injarungo Injarungo from Thenali. Interesting news for me. I have to listen to the song one more time paying special attention to the lyrics. Coming back to VTV, maybe the lyrics fits well with the movie, but poetically speaking the words and the imaginations were pretty average. I wish we have more lyricist in Tamil on the caliber of Gulzar or Javeed Aktar. What happened to ARR-Vairamuthu's Sir combination ? I am terribly missing it. They were a mind blowing pair and I really wish they come back once again and make me sit back and take a notice of the lyrics in ARR's songs. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Srinivasa Krishnan srinivaasakrishn...@... wrote: The lyrics are perfect fit for the movie.. Lyrics should reflect the mood of the movie and it happened very well in VTV.. This is the second time, Thamarai is working with ARR.. She worked in Thenali for Injarungo and had won a Tamilnadu State Award for Best Lyricist. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, jayram m.n jayram...@... wrote: I admire and enjoy some of the good songs written by Thamarai. She has given some memorable pieces like Suttum Velli Sudarey from Ghagni, Kangal irandal from Subramanyapuram and so many others. The list is pretty long. But my overall impression is that the lyrics in VTV was kind of average lyrics (or below average). (1) Hosanna and Ommna Penne - Both these songs can be remembered without any lyrics, because of the catchy tune, main tag-word selected for the songs. (2) Vinnaithaandi varuvaya and Manipaaya - Better lyrics with good flow of words in both these songs. Definitely promising. (3) Anbil Avan : Okay lyrics (most of the lyrics consists of rehashed marriage oaths which is a cool idea). (4) Kannukul Kannai : Sounds more like a dialogue rather than a poem. (4) Since I don't understand Malayalam, I cannot say much about Aromale lyrics. But from the translation that appeared in this forum, the lyrics sounds quite impressive and imaginative. She has definitely struggled to write the songs for VTV. Perhaps she needs to work more with ARR Sir to understand his style of composition and tunes to give much better lyrics. Sorry for being little bit harsh with my review, but I expect more memorable lyrics Thamarai (especially with ARR Sir). -- regards, Vithur
