Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-20 Thread anuja
what is maramkothiye? which movie??

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>
> blaaze is just doing it over i gues...i dislike maramkothiye becoz 
of 
> his rappin...it sounded very childish on a song like that...hope 
blaaze 
> is not in ARR's forthcoming ARR albums...esp in shivaji or JOK!!
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-19 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||



Hey man...dont go with the Subject Line in the mail...it has nothing to with Blaaze issue...it was entirely different thread...so relax :-)Mohamed Yaseer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:BlaaZe is a great rapper and a great singer...Only people with narrow dimension in music will think BlaaZe is not good...BlaaZe is one of A.R Rahman's most favourite singer (personally) and he's very close with A.R Rahman...There is nothing to laugh about it!!!|| V i s h w e s h || <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: agreed... comon guys... there are only 7or 8 songs of blaaze with a r r...  so If u r so fed up with him...simply just skip the song ;-) 
    I liked him in Boys & the Kh Kha Ga song from KKS & Baba Rap & Dol Dol etc...  but I didn't like the Paathshala Rap version that much...so I just skip it once in a while...  anuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  i think blaaze is fun, if you dont take him too seriously. i think ARR possesses a good sense of humour, and hence doesnt mind the rap version of songs. they add a certain 'taporiness' to the mood, which is welcome sometimes. i have been seeing some people panicking about arr using blaaze, but im sure he is in control of his music, and no blaaze or anyone could sabotage his album. anyway, blaaze usually never sings more than 1 song of an arr album, so how come he is blamed for
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-18 Thread Mohamed Yaseer



BlaaZe is a great rapper and a great singer...Only people with narrow dimension in music will think BlaaZe is not good...BlaaZe is one of A.R Rahman's most favourite singer (personally) and he's very close with A.R Rahman...There is nothing to laugh about it!!!|| V i s h w e s h || <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:agreed... comon guys... there are only 7or 8 songs of blaaze with a r r...  so If u r so fed up with him...simply just skip the song ;-)     I liked him in Boys & the Kh Kha Ga song from KKS & Baba Rap & Dol Dol etc...  but I didn't like the Paathshala Rap version that much...so I just skip it once in a while...  anuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  i think blaaze is fun, if you dont take him too seriously. i think ARR possesses a good sense of humour, and hence doesnt mind the rap version of songs. they add a certain 'taporiness' to the mood, which is welcome sometimes. i have been seeing some people panicking about arr using blaaze, but im sure he is in control of his music, and no blaaze or anyone could sabotage his album. anyway, blaaze usually never sings more than 1 song of an arr album, so how come he is blamed for anything?" The search is more important than the destination."-A R Rahman.   Yahoo! Photos ?Showcase holiday pictures in
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-18 Thread Ashok Purohit



Yeah, I remember how Blaaze unexpectedly appeared in the mid of a song in ...i guess,..hyderabad concert.  There too, arr kept smiling...and yes, i agree with anujathe "cool" sense of "taporiness" esp to mumbaites, is displayed in his rap...     ashok  vande mataramanuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  i think blaaze is fun, if you dont take him too seriously. i think ARR possesses a good sense of humour, and hence doesnt mind the rap version of songs. they add a certain 'taporiness' to the mood, which is welcome sometimes. i have been seeing some people panicking about arr using blaaze, but im sure he is in control of his music, and no blaaze or anyone could sabotage his album. anyway, blaaze usually never sings more than 1 song of an arr album, so how come he
 is blamed for anything?--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, reddy naveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> ya guyz i am fed uo of blaaze too. i wonder how would> all these songs would be if he was not discovered.> suddenly after he gets in  all the films our god> composes seem to be of youngies. he is even used in> afilm like swades( bgm dhaba).i cant understand . does> our god like that kinda muzic? who knows?> > --- bpr_arr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Didnt like the title song of RDB. Come on. Just try> > to sing the song, U will know its not an easy song> > to sing. The kind of energy that Daler has put into> > it is amazing. > > > > Paatshala does not have good lyrics. I dont know how> > good ur hindi is. If i was a college student.> > Probably I would sing paatshala. Watch the movie and> > then
 comment.> > > > I agree with you on the Blazee rapping part. I too> > am fed up of him.> > > > Raghu> > > > > > > > > > Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone> > rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and> > songs like that really pull it down. Even the title> > song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped> > on> > and on about how he sang the entire song in 5> > minutes,> > our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part> > is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just> > another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song> > after he has the singers recorded. The "melody"> > number> > Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation> > but> > seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody> >
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-17 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||



agreed... comon guys... there are only 7or 8 songs of blaaze with a r r...  so If u r so fed up with him...simply just skip the song ;-)     I liked him in Boys & the Kh Kha Ga song from KKS & Baba Rap & Dol Dol etc...  but I didn't like the Paathshala Rap version that much...so I just skip it once in a while...  anuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  i think blaaze is fun, if you dont take him too seriously. i think ARR possesses a good sense of humour, and hence doesnt mind the rap version of songs. they add a certain 'taporiness' to the mood, which is welcome sometimes. i have been seeing some people panicking about arr using blaaze, but im sure he is in control of his music, and no blaaze or anyone could
 sabotage his album. anyway, blaaze usually never sings more than 1 song of an arr album, so how come he is blamed for anything?
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-17 Thread anuja
i think blaaze is fun, if you dont take him too seriously. i think 
ARR possesses a good sense of humour, and hence doesnt mind the rap 
version of songs. they add a certain 'taporiness' to the mood, which 
is welcome sometimes. 
i have been seeing some people panicking about arr using blaaze, but 
im sure he is in control of his music, and no blaaze or anyone could 
sabotage his album. anyway, blaaze usually never sings more than 1 
song of an arr album, so how come he is blamed for anything?


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, reddy naveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> ya guyz i am fed uo of blaaze too. i wonder how would
> all these songs would be if he was not discovered.
> suddenly after he gets in  all the films our god
> composes seem to be of youngies. he is even used in
> afilm like swades( bgm dhaba).i cant understand . does
> our god like that kinda muzic? who knows?
> 
> --- bpr_arr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Didnt like the title song of RDB. Come on. Just try
> > to sing the song, U will know its not an easy song
> > to sing. The kind of energy that Daler has put into
> > it is amazing. 
> > 
> > Paatshala does not have good lyrics. I dont know how
> > good ur hindi is. If i was a college student.
> > Probably I would sing paatshala. Watch the movie and
> > then comment.
> > 
> > I agree with you on the Blazee rapping part. I too
> > am fed up of him.
> > 
> > Raghu
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone
> > rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and
> > songs like that really pull it down. Even the title
> > song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped
> > on
> > and on about how he sang the entire song in 5
> > minutes,
> > our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part
> > is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just
> > another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song
> > after he has the singers recorded. The "melody"
> > number
> > Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation
> > but
> > seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody
> > number. I like the organ which sounds like a chorus
> > chanting during the verses, but the rest of the song
> > is just meh.
> > 
> 
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-17 Thread Dinesh
blaaze is just doing it over i gues...i dislike maramkothiye becoz of 
his rappin...it sounded very childish on a song like that...hope blaaze 
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-16 Thread reddy naveen
ya guyz i am fed uo of blaaze too. i wonder how would
all these songs would be if he was not discovered.
suddenly after he gets in  all the films our god
composes seem to be of youngies. he is even used in
afilm like swades( bgm dhaba).i cant understand . does
our god like that kinda muzic? who knows?

--- bpr_arr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Didnt like the title song of RDB. Come on. Just try
> to sing the song, U will know its not an easy song
> to sing. The kind of energy that Daler has put into
> it is amazing. 
> 
> Paatshala does not have good lyrics. I dont know how
> good ur hindi is. If i was a college student.
> Probably I would sing paatshala. Watch the movie and
> then comment.
> 
> I agree with you on the Blazee rapping part. I too
> am fed up of him.
> 
> Raghu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone
> rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and
> songs like that really pull it down. Even the title
> song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped
> on
> and on about how he sang the entire song in 5
> minutes,
> our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part
> is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just
> another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song
> after he has the singers recorded. The "melody"
> number
> Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation
> but
> seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody
> number. I like the organ which sounds like a chorus
> chanting during the verses, but the rest of the song
> is just meh.
> 


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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-12 Thread Triply R.
Hi Ajit,
Just like I said at the end of my email "So, at the
risk of not being highly regarded with this group..."
and it was a self-fulfilling prophecy!! Yes, of
course, every fan has his own set mind and feels that
his favourite should follow his advice, cos he knows
the best. But, like you said, this guy really is funny
cos he demands ARR follow is advice. And to everyone I
offended by putting down the Shankar movies music, it
was my mistake I didn't add IMHO before the sentence!!
Of course, I cant convince you that Indian is a bad
album and you cant convince me that it is a good
album. And I prefer Minnalae and Khaaka Khaaka and
Ulam Ketkumae to Aniyan. I realised Aniyan was HJ's
worst when I was making a playlist of my favourite HJ
songs and I couldn't bring myself to include even one
song from Aniyan, but that is a whole different story.

Coming back to Rahman, yes, Hum Hai Is Pal Yahan was a
masterpiece and I love the song. My mistake if I
overlooked it. But to make the point that a couple of
what this guy said was right, I was talking about what
I felt was wrong. I said the lyrics of Paatshaala
sound like bad Prabhu Deva era dubs. I still feel
that's true. Not the music, the lyrics. So many Rahman
masterpieces lost so much in translation during that
phase. And that was the same cringe I felt when I
heard Paatshaala. Of course, coming to the music of
Paatshaala, it isn't definately that great
either.IMHO!!
And I'm surprised no one has attacked me attacking
"Tum Bin Bataye"!! I forgot to mention that for the
first time ever, when listening to a Rahman song for
the first time, I could almost hum the next line's
tune. That was how generic the song felt. It never
happened to a Rahman song ever. I cant think of anyone
who could guess the next line's tune for any Rahman
track when hearing it for the first time. But this
one, I could. 

All in all, my gripes are with RDB. Maybe the title
song is difficult to hum, but that doesn't necessarily
make it good. Maybe it's catchy, but Rahman has made
better bhangra with TLoBS. Do a check of Rahman's
releases in 2005. You had Anbae Aayuyire, Bose,
Kisna(?), The Rising, Water and RDB. My point, that is
contempary music is suffering is cos AA and RDB were
not up to par whereas Bose, Kisna (his tracks), The
Rising and Water were special, very special. 

Sorry to ramble on and on, but I was listening to an
REM interview yesterday and they asked Michael Stipe
why it was that they are now not as popular in the USA
as they were before. To this he said that from the
beginning they have followed their own trajectory,
with respect to the music they made and that the
popular music in USA was on a different orbit. Every
once in a while the two paths meet and that is when
they have a surge of popularity. I feel this is true
for Rahman as well. 

For me, I always seemed to like the songs that weren't
the most popular. When Tanha Tanha was the most
popular song in Rangeela, I preferred Kya Kahe Kya Na
Kahe and Mangta Hai Kya. When Humma Humma was the most
popular song from Bombay, I preferred Poovukenna
Pootu. I guess every once in a while there will be a
Rahman album and song I like that becomes massive too,
but RDB isn't that album.





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> Your points are well taken and I too am not a fan of
> rap in Hindi 
> songs, esp. with this Blaaze fellow.  But, this guy
> asserts that his 
> 4 points are the reasons that ARR's soundtracks are
> not selling well, 
> which is a very narrow minded, arrogant, and
> limiting view.  This I 
> found ridiculous.  Whether you agree with his points
> or not is one 
> thing, but to for him to say that ARR should follow
> his advice, which 
> is what he mentioned afterwards, is pretty
> hilarious.
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-12 Thread bpr_arr





Didnt like the title song of RDB. Come on. Just try to sing the song, U 
will know its not an easy song to sing. The kind of energy that Daler has put 
into it is amazing. 
 
Paatshala does not have good lyrics. I dont know how good ur hindi is. 
If i was a college student. Probably I would sing paatshala. Watch the movie and 
then comment.
 
I agree with you on the Blazee rapping part. I too am fed up of 
him.
 
Raghu
 
 
 
 
Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someonerapping over the 
songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali andsongs like that really pull it down. Even 
the titlesong is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped onand on 
about how he sang the entire song in 5 minutes,our suspicions should have 
been raised. The sad partis that Rahman himself seems to have taken 
justanother 5 minutes to create the magic of the songafter he has the 
singers recorded. The "melody" numberTum Bin Bataye has some promising 
instrumentation butseems too cliched and tries too hard to be a 
melodynumber. I like the organ which sounds like a choruschanting during 
the verses, but the rest of the songis just meh.





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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-12 Thread anas rahman



hi,       Please!!! Bose knows better than neone who is in this group as to what to do with his music!!! He is the one who creates it,and he has the power of deciding who should sing or rap or whatever!!!if u could find a better rapper,plz suggest names instead of criticising someone like this.And lyrics,please listen to his songs properlyLike LOBS ,Taaal  etc etc etc.His lyrics are so situationalEven if it is dhaka lakka bukka,after listening to the song itself we would understand what the situation is!!U were just talkin bout two lines   "DHakka laka bukka"  and u dint even seem to consider the rest of the linesAnd paatshaala is one of the most accepted songs..And dont pull him down by saying "Prabhu Deva Era Songs"!!!Thse are big hits even now!     PLease think  before criticising some'ne,not just in this
 group but newhere.           BYe     Anas Rahman(yet another A R Rahman fan)                       Ajit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Your points are well taken and I too am not a fan of rap in Hindi songs, esp. with this Blaaze fellow.  But, this guy asserts that his 4 points are the reasons that ARR's soundtracks are not selling well, which is a very narrow minded, arrogant, and limiting view.  This I found ridiculous.  Whether you agree with his points or not is one thing, but to for him to say that ARR should follow his advice, which is what he mentioned
 afterwards, is pretty hilarious.--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Triply R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> This guy may not be well-regarded in some other forum,> but I have to agree with a couple of his points:> > > 1) He has to give more time to create melodious> > music instread of this> > rap and western tren. We want Jiya Jale, Kehna Hai> > Kya over Khalbali> > type of songs.> Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone> rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and> songs like that really pull it down. Even the title> song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped on> and on about how he sang the entire song in 5 minutes,> our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part> is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just> another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song>
 after he has the singers recorded. The "melody" number> Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation but> seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody> number. I like the organ which sounds like a chorus> chanting during the verses, but the rest of the song> is just meh.> > > > 2) He has to take well know renowned singers to make> > his songs more> > meaningfull. He has some vaugue thinking that only> > music directors are> > powerfull and singers are non entity. Both md and> > singers have> > contribution to make. When you take unknown singers> > you are actually> > letting people not to buy your albums.> I wouldn't agree with this. The more reknown singers> in this album are Daler Mehendi and Lata Mangeshkar> and they were the weakest singers on the album. The> newer voices are really better. And none of
 them tried> to use an anglisized accent like Shaan in his> "Mohabbat hai Mirchi" song. I just cant stand that.>  > > 3) He has to tell his lyricists to write something> > which people can> > understand not something like Pathshala or Dakka> > laga bukka.> I felt the same thing. The lyrics of Paatshaala> sounded too much like those badly dubbed songs from> his Prabhu Deva era. If the album's claim to the> charts is this song, I really dont have much hope for> it's success. But Koon Chala and even the lyrics of> the title song are pretty neat. And Lalkaar has good> lyrics too. It's just the supposedly chartbusters like> Paatshaala that have cheesy, if not enjoyable, lyrics.> > > > 4) Dont do period films. He is himself saying he is> > done with it but> > again taking assignments for it.> Well, besides Akbar Jodha and
 possibly Buddha, I cant> think of any other period films he is signed up for.> Maybe the mirage that is Mahabharatha. But seriously> it doesn't make a difference. He can really create> great period music like Iruvar and 1947. Right now,> it's his contemparary work that seems to be suffering,> like RDB and Anbae Aayuriye. > > > He has to correct the above otherwise none of his> > album going to reach> > the top 10. Except Swades and Yuva none of the last> > 9 albums even> > reached 5 lakhs unit sell. For ARR album usually it> > picks in West and> > South. But now West has also rejected it."> I really hope the JoK rocks. I dont have much hope> with Shivaji, cos though Shankar albums become hits> (which, I agree, Rahman really needs badly), he seems> to get the worst out of his music directors. Indian,> Jeans and Mudalvan were really
 weak Rahman albums with> Boys just rising a little above these. And Aniyan is> possibly Harris Jayaraj's worst album. Pity, cos he is> amazing too. > > So, at the risk of not being highly regarded with this> group, I have to agree with this guy on a couple

Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-12 Thread mani_tec
Hi,

I am a very silent and ,maybe, late member of this group. But just 
wanted to share my thoughts on this topic.

I feel if ARR scores the same kind of music like he did in 90's 
(bombay, dilse..), there won't be any experimentation and he will no 
more be a trendsetter. 

ARR transcends well for the future age (what arr followed in 90's 
most MDs follow now), and thats what made him special.

Talking about melodies.. How about the 3 songs in Tehzeeb and 
Swades..I think they were fabulous modern melodies. Did you get to 
hear Blaaze in any of those melody songs??? 

So obviously if the theme of movie is young ang hip, he brings in 
that experimentation, which is laudable. Finally what I want to 
convey is only because ARR keeps experimenting himself, he is 
unique. I feel thiruda thiruda is awesome. But does everybody feel, 
with Fanaah ARR has become a modern age rocker improvised than 
chandralekah? 

Just my thoughts.

Cheers,
Mani.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Triply R." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This guy may not be well-regarded in some other forum,
> but I have to agree with a couple of his points:
> 
> > 1) He has to give more time to create melodious
> > music instread of this
> > rap and western tren. We want Jiya Jale, Kehna Hai
> > Kya over Khalbali
> > type of songs.
> Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone
> rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and
> songs like that really pull it down. Even the title
> song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped on
> and on about how he sang the entire song in 5 minutes,
> our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part
> is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just
> another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song
> after he has the singers recorded. The "melody" number
> Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation but
> seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody
> number. I like the organ which sounds like a chorus
> chanting during the verses, but the rest of the song
> is just meh.
> 
> 
> > 2) He has to take well know renowned singers to make
> > his songs more
> > meaningfull. He has some vaugue thinking that only
> > music directors are
> > powerfull and singers are non entity. Both md and
> > singers have
> > contribution to make. When you take unknown singers
> > you are actually
> > letting people not to buy your albums.
> I wouldn't agree with this. The more reknown singers
> in this album are Daler Mehendi and Lata Mangeshkar
> and they were the weakest singers on the album. The
> newer voices are really better. And none of them tried
> to use an anglisized accent like Shaan in his
> "Mohabbat hai Mirchi" song. I just cant stand that.
>  
> > 3) He has to tell his lyricists to write something
> > which people can
> > understand not something like Pathshala or Dakka
> > laga bukka.
> I felt the same thing. The lyrics of Paatshaala
> sounded too much like those badly dubbed songs from
> his Prabhu Deva era. If the album's claim to the
> charts is this song, I really dont have much hope for
> it's success. But Koon Chala and even the lyrics of
> the title song are pretty neat. And Lalkaar has good
> lyrics too. It's just the supposedly chartbusters like
> Paatshaala that have cheesy, if not enjoyable, lyrics.
> > 
> > 4) Dont do period films. He is himself saying he is
> > done with it but
> > again taking assignments for it.
> Well, besides Akbar Jodha and possibly Buddha, I cant
> think of any other period films he is signed up for.
> Maybe the mirage that is Mahabharatha. But seriously
> it doesn't make a difference. He can really create
> great period music like Iruvar and 1947. Right now,
> it's his contemparary work that seems to be suffering,
> like RDB and Anbae Aayuriye. 
> 
> > He has to correct the above otherwise none of his
> > album going to reach
> > the top 10. Except Swades and Yuva none of the last
> > 9 albums even
> > reached 5 lakhs unit sell. For ARR album usually it
> > picks in West and
> > South. But now West has also rejected it."
> I really hope the JoK rocks. I dont have much hope
> with Shivaji, cos though Shankar albums become hits
> (which, I agree, Rahman really needs badly), he seems
> to get the worst out of his music directors. Indian,
> Jeans and Mudalvan were really weak Rahman albums with
> Boys just rising a little above these. And Aniyan is
> possibly Harris Jayaraj's worst album. Pity, cos he is
> amazing too. 
> 
> So, at the risk of not being highly regarded with this
> group, I have to agree with this guy on a couple of
> points.
> 
> 
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-12 Thread dev raj
pls read the last few lines of this long mail of cornholiosbungholio
whatever...

he has said " indian, jeans , mudhalvan being weak albums of a r rahman and
boys just raising above these .. and  also he adds anniyan is harris
jayaraj's worst album.

hey guys ...i think indian is in the "best of arr " category 

how many of you agree with me ?? or am i wrong???


On 1/12/06, Ajit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Your points are well taken and I too am not a fan of rap in Hindi
> songs, esp. with this Blaaze fellow.  But, this guy asserts that his
> 4 points are the reasons that ARR's soundtracks are not selling well,
> which is a very narrow minded, arrogant, and limiting view.  This I
> found ridiculous.  Whether you agree with his points or not is one
> thing, but to for him to say that ARR should follow his advice, which
> is what he mentioned afterwards, is pretty hilarious.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Triply R."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This guy may not be well-regarded in some other forum,
> > but I have to agree with a couple of his points:
> >
> > > 1) He has to give more time to create melodious
> > > music instread of this
> > > rap and western tren. We want Jiya Jale, Kehna Hai
> > > Kya over Khalbali
> > > type of songs.
> > Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone
> > rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and
> > songs like that really pull it down. Even the title
> > song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped on
> > and on about how he sang the entire song in 5 minutes,
> > our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part
> > is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just
> > another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song
> > after he has the singers recorded. The "melody" number
> > Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation but
> > seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody
> > number. I like the organ which sounds like a chorus
> > chanting during the verses, but the rest of the song
> > is just meh.
> >
> >
> > > 2) He has to take well know renowned singers to make
> > > his songs more
> > > meaningfull. He has some vaugue thinking that only
> > > music directors are
> > > powerfull and singers are non entity. Both md and
> > > singers have
> > > contribution to make. When you take unknown singers
> > > you are actually
> > > letting people not to buy your albums.
> > I wouldn't agree with this. The more reknown singers
> > in this album are Daler Mehendi and Lata Mangeshkar
> > and they were the weakest singers on the album. The
> > newer voices are really better. And none of them tried
> > to use an anglisized accent like Shaan in his
> > "Mohabbat hai Mirchi" song. I just cant stand that.
> >
> > > 3) He has to tell his lyricists to write something
> > > which people can
> > > understand not something like Pathshala or Dakka
> > > laga bukka.
> > I felt the same thing. The lyrics of Paatshaala
> > sounded too much like those badly dubbed songs from
> > his Prabhu Deva era. If the album's claim to the
> > charts is this song, I really dont have much hope for
> > it's success. But Koon Chala and even the lyrics of
> > the title song are pretty neat. And Lalkaar has good
> > lyrics too. It's just the supposedly chartbusters like
> > Paatshaala that have cheesy, if not enjoyable, lyrics.
> > >
> > > 4) Dont do period films. He is himself saying he is
> > > done with it but
> > > again taking assignments for it.
> > Well, besides Akbar Jodha and possibly Buddha, I cant
> > think of any other period films he is signed up for.
> > Maybe the mirage that is Mahabharatha. But seriously
> > it doesn't make a difference. He can really create
> > great period music like Iruvar and 1947. Right now,
> > it's his contemparary work that seems to be suffering,
> > like RDB and Anbae Aayuriye.
> >
> > > He has to correct the above otherwise none of his
> > > album going to reach
> > > the top 10. Except Swades and Yuva none of the last
> > > 9 albums even
> > > reached 5 lakhs unit sell. For ARR album usually it
> > > picks in West and
> > > South. But now West has also rejected it."
> > I really hope the JoK rocks. I dont have much hope
> > with Shivaji, cos though Shankar albums become hits
> > (which, I agree, Rahman really needs badly), he seems
> > to get the worst out of his music directors. Indian,
> > Jeans and Mudalvan were really weak Rahman albums with
> > Boys just rising a little above these. And Aniyan is
> > possibly Harris Jayaraj's worst album. Pity, cos he is
> > amazing too.
> >
> > So, at the risk of not being highly regarded with this
> > group, I have to agree with this guy on a couple of
> > points.
> >
> >
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-12 Thread Ajit
Your points are well taken and I too am not a fan of rap in Hindi 
songs, esp. with this Blaaze fellow.  But, this guy asserts that his 
4 points are the reasons that ARR's soundtracks are not selling well, 
which is a very narrow minded, arrogant, and limiting view.  This I 
found ridiculous.  Whether you agree with his points or not is one 
thing, but to for him to say that ARR should follow his advice, which 
is what he mentioned afterwards, is pretty hilarious.





--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Triply R." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This guy may not be well-regarded in some other forum,
> but I have to agree with a couple of his points:
> 
> > 1) He has to give more time to create melodious
> > music instread of this
> > rap and western tren. We want Jiya Jale, Kehna Hai
> > Kya over Khalbali
> > type of songs.
> Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone
> rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and
> songs like that really pull it down. Even the title
> song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped on
> and on about how he sang the entire song in 5 minutes,
> our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part
> is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just
> another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song
> after he has the singers recorded. The "melody" number
> Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation but
> seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody
> number. I like the organ which sounds like a chorus
> chanting during the verses, but the rest of the song
> is just meh.
> 
> 
> > 2) He has to take well know renowned singers to make
> > his songs more
> > meaningfull. He has some vaugue thinking that only
> > music directors are
> > powerfull and singers are non entity. Both md and
> > singers have
> > contribution to make. When you take unknown singers
> > you are actually
> > letting people not to buy your albums.
> I wouldn't agree with this. The more reknown singers
> in this album are Daler Mehendi and Lata Mangeshkar
> and they were the weakest singers on the album. The
> newer voices are really better. And none of them tried
> to use an anglisized accent like Shaan in his
> "Mohabbat hai Mirchi" song. I just cant stand that.
>  
> > 3) He has to tell his lyricists to write something
> > which people can
> > understand not something like Pathshala or Dakka
> > laga bukka.
> I felt the same thing. The lyrics of Paatshaala
> sounded too much like those badly dubbed songs from
> his Prabhu Deva era. If the album's claim to the
> charts is this song, I really dont have much hope for
> it's success. But Koon Chala and even the lyrics of
> the title song are pretty neat. And Lalkaar has good
> lyrics too. It's just the supposedly chartbusters like
> Paatshaala that have cheesy, if not enjoyable, lyrics.
> > 
> > 4) Dont do period films. He is himself saying he is
> > done with it but
> > again taking assignments for it.
> Well, besides Akbar Jodha and possibly Buddha, I cant
> think of any other period films he is signed up for.
> Maybe the mirage that is Mahabharatha. But seriously
> it doesn't make a difference. He can really create
> great period music like Iruvar and 1947. Right now,
> it's his contemparary work that seems to be suffering,
> like RDB and Anbae Aayuriye. 
> 
> > He has to correct the above otherwise none of his
> > album going to reach
> > the top 10. Except Swades and Yuva none of the last
> > 9 albums even
> > reached 5 lakhs unit sell. For ARR album usually it
> > picks in West and
> > South. But now West has also rejected it."
> I really hope the JoK rocks. I dont have much hope
> with Shivaji, cos though Shankar albums become hits
> (which, I agree, Rahman really needs badly), he seems
> to get the worst out of his music directors. Indian,
> Jeans and Mudalvan were really weak Rahman albums with
> Boys just rising a little above these. And Aniyan is
> possibly Harris Jayaraj's worst album. Pity, cos he is
> amazing too. 
> 
> So, at the risk of not being highly regarded with this
> group, I have to agree with this guy on a couple of
> points.
> 
> 
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Re: Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-12 Thread sunil rao




Hi guys,
 
I really don't agree with this guy. let me take from the first point that Rahman must take time to create melodious numbers. What I feel is that the music depends on the situation in the movie. You can't expect a melodious number in place of 'Dhakka Laga Bhukka' in Yuva. The situation demands a youthful enthusiastic and exciting music which Rahman has done successfully.

Then that ARR must take renowned singers. Come on man , even the renowned singers would not have been what they are now had they not been given a chance to sing in movies. ARR is just trying to introduce new singers and give them a chance to exhibit their tallent.

And about composing music for periodic movies. I think ARR has composed the best music for period movies 1947, Bose etc.. and even LAGAAN which was nominated for the OSCARS. 

So I really feel ARR has the same old magic and this year belongs to him.  


On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 Triply R. wrote :
>This guy may not be well-regarded in some other forum,
>but I have to agree with a couple of his points:
>> 1) He has to give more time to create melodious
>> music instread of this
>> rap and western tren. We want Jiya Jale, Kehna Hai
>> Kya over Khalbali
>> type of songs.
>Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone
>rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and
>songs like that really pull it down. Even the title
>song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped on
>and on about how he sang the entire song in 5 minutes,
>our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part
>is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just
>another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song
>after he has the singers recorded. The "melody" number
>Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation but
>seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody
>number. I like the organ which sounds like a chorus
>chanting during the verses, but the rest of the song
>is just meh.
>> 2) He has to take well know renowned singers to make
>> his songs more
>> meaningfull. He has some vaugue thinking that only
>> music directors are
>> powerfull and singers are non entity. Both md and
>> singers have
>> contribution to make. When you take unknown singers
>> you are actually
>> letting people not to buy your albums.
>I wouldn't agree with this. The more reknown singers
>in this album are Daler Mehendi and Lata Mangeshkar
>and they were the weakest singers on the album. The
>newer voices are really better. And none of them tried
>to use an anglisized accent like Shaan in his
>"Mohabbat hai Mirchi" song. I just cant stand that.
>> 3) He has to tell his lyricists to write something
>> which people can
>> understand not something like Pathshala or Dakka
>> laga bukka.
>I felt the same thing. The lyrics of Paatshaala
>sounded too much like those badly dubbed songs from
>his Prabhu Deva era. If the album's claim to the
>charts is this song, I really dont have much hope for
>it's success. But Koon Chala and even the lyrics of
>the title song are pretty neat. And Lalkaar has good
>lyrics too. It's just the supposedly chartbusters like
>Paatshaala that have cheesy, if not enjoyable, lyrics.
>>
>> 4) Dont do period films. He is himself saying he is
>> done with it but
>> again taking assignments for it.
>Well, besides Akbar Jodha and possibly Buddha, I cant
>think of any other period films he is signed up for.
>Maybe the mirage that is Mahabharatha. But seriously
>it doesn't make a difference. He can really create
>great period music like Iruvar and 1947. Right now,
>it's his contemparary work that seems to be suffering,
>like RDB and Anbae Aayuriye.
>> He has to correct the above otherwise none of his
>> album going to reach
>> the top 10. Except Swades and Yuva none of the last
>> 9 albums even
>> reached 5 lakhs unit sell. For ARR album usually it
>> picks in West and
>> South. But now West has also rejected it."
>I really hope the JoK rocks. I dont have much hope
>with Shivaji, cos though Shankar albums become hits
>(which, I agree, Rahman really needs badly), he seems
>to get the worst out of his music directors. Indian,
>Jeans and Mudalvan were really weak Rahman albums with
>Boys just rising a little above these. And Aniyan is
>possibly Harris Jayaraj's worst album. Pity, cos he is
>amazing too.
>So, at the risk of not being highly regarded with this
>group, I have to agree with this guy on a couple of
>points.
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Re: [arr] Anyone want to laugh?

2006-01-11 Thread Triply R.
This guy may not be well-regarded in some other forum,
but I have to agree with a couple of his points:

> 1) He has to give more time to create melodious
> music instread of this
> rap and western tren. We want Jiya Jale, Kehna Hai
> Kya over Khalbali
> type of songs.
Absolutely. I am sick of hearing blaze or someone
rapping over the songs. Paatshaala and Khalbali and
songs like that really pull it down. Even the title
song is a disappointment. When Daler Mehendi harped on
and on about how he sang the entire song in 5 minutes,
our suspicions should have been raised. The sad part
is that Rahman himself seems to have taken just
another 5 minutes to create the magic of the song
after he has the singers recorded. The "melody" number
Tum Bin Bataye has some promising instrumentation but
seems too cliched and tries too hard to be a melody
number. I like the organ which sounds like a chorus
chanting during the verses, but the rest of the song
is just meh.


> 2) He has to take well know renowned singers to make
> his songs more
> meaningfull. He has some vaugue thinking that only
> music directors are
> powerfull and singers are non entity. Both md and
> singers have
> contribution to make. When you take unknown singers
> you are actually
> letting people not to buy your albums.
I wouldn't agree with this. The more reknown singers
in this album are Daler Mehendi and Lata Mangeshkar
and they were the weakest singers on the album. The
newer voices are really better. And none of them tried
to use an anglisized accent like Shaan in his
"Mohabbat hai Mirchi" song. I just cant stand that.
 
> 3) He has to tell his lyricists to write something
> which people can
> understand not something like Pathshala or Dakka
> laga bukka.
I felt the same thing. The lyrics of Paatshaala
sounded too much like those badly dubbed songs from
his Prabhu Deva era. If the album's claim to the
charts is this song, I really dont have much hope for
it's success. But Koon Chala and even the lyrics of
the title song are pretty neat. And Lalkaar has good
lyrics too. It's just the supposedly chartbusters like
Paatshaala that have cheesy, if not enjoyable, lyrics.
> 
> 4) Dont do period films. He is himself saying he is
> done with it but
> again taking assignments for it.
Well, besides Akbar Jodha and possibly Buddha, I cant
think of any other period films he is signed up for.
Maybe the mirage that is Mahabharatha. But seriously
it doesn't make a difference. He can really create
great period music like Iruvar and 1947. Right now,
it's his contemparary work that seems to be suffering,
like RDB and Anbae Aayuriye. 

> He has to correct the above otherwise none of his
> album going to reach
> the top 10. Except Swades and Yuva none of the last
> 9 albums even
> reached 5 lakhs unit sell. For ARR album usually it
> picks in West and
> South. But now West has also rejected it."
I really hope the JoK rocks. I dont have much hope
with Shivaji, cos though Shankar albums become hits
(which, I agree, Rahman really needs badly), he seems
to get the worst out of his music directors. Indian,
Jeans and Mudalvan were really weak Rahman albums with
Boys just rising a little above these. And Aniyan is
possibly Harris Jayaraj's worst album. Pity, cos he is
amazing too. 

So, at the risk of not being highly regarded with this
group, I have to agree with this guy on a couple of
points.


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