Re: Need help about IVR integration

2013-12-03 Thread Remedy consultant
Hello Ali,

We are using Remedy ARS server 7.5 patch 8 and ITSM 7.6 patch 001.

But i do not have answer for your rest of the questions.

With Regards,

Amit B.

On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Ali A. Musa amus...@stc.com.sa wrote:

 **

  I made intergation between RMEDY-6 and IVR using C-API then JAVA-API from
 IVR and interfacing with webservioce at REMEDY, hence there a list of
 questions



 1- What REMEDY version you are workin with

 2- Does AVYA allow API calls, ANSI-C or java to read he translation and
 make the necessary workflow

 2- Does AVAY support web-service integration (i.e. web-based application,
 run under web-server, )


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 *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 4:42 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Need help about IVR integration

   **
 Hello ,

 Thnak you for your reply.

 Here my customer is looking for Integrating IM module with IVR using
 avaya. here is the thing we are looking for:

 1) Customer calls help desk and he would hear the message like please
 enter your ID followed by # sign.

 2) as soon as it is done ,system would show pop up window which will
 contain customer ID as well as other details like language and location
 related to customer.ideally system whould extract it based on ID.

 3) then Agent would insert text related to an issue and he would press
 save button present on pop up window.

 4) then Incident should get created.


 As per my understanding in this case every agent should have Avaya agent
 installed on his/her machine. Please correct me if i am wrong.

 I need help to understand what are the task which needs to be done from
 Remedy side and from avaya side.

 Kindly waiting for your reply.

 With Regards,

 Amit B.

 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Grooms, Frederick W 
 frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:

 **

 What type of integration are you asking for?



 Examples

   When a call comes in and is answered by a rep are you looking to “pop”
 the screen of the rep with the caller’s information?

After the call is complete do you wish to add data to the ticket
 about call timing?

Do you want the ability for a user in ITSM to have the IVR system
 make the call for them (ARS triggering the user’s phone to dial the number)?





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 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Remedy consultant
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:12 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Need help about IVR integration



 **

 Hello All,



 We are working on requirement about integrating IVR with ITSM . Does
 anybody has any document which could be helpfull for us during the
 implementation ?



 As per my understanding Avaya has it's own API which can push data into
 either staging form or Hpd:help Deks form ? Please correct me if i am
 wrong.



 Regards,



 Amit B.




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Re: Need help about IVR integration

2013-12-03 Thread Ali A. Musa

The solution

1.   Create a web-service ate the AR-System

2.   Using Java you can update the AR-System and your IVR if there Java-API
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Subject: Re: Need help about IVR integration

**
Hello Ali,

We are using Remedy ARS server 7.5 patch 8 and ITSM 7.6 patch 001.

But i do not have answer for your rest of the questions.

With Regards,

Amit B.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Ali A. Musa 
amus...@stc.com.samailto:amus...@stc.com.sa wrote:
**

 I made intergation between RMEDY-6 and IVR using C-API then JAVA-API from IVR 
and interfacing with webservioce at REMEDY, hence there a list of questions



1- What REMEDY version you are workin with

2- Does AVYA allow API calls, ANSI-C or java to read he translation and make 
the necessary workflow

2- Does AVAY support web-service integration (i.e. web-based application, run 
under web-server, )




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Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:42 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need help about IVR integration
**
Hello ,

Thnak you for your reply.

Here my customer is looking for Integrating IM module with IVR using avaya. 
here is the thing we are looking for:

1) Customer calls help desk and he would hear the message like please enter 
your ID followed by # sign.

2) as soon as it is done ,system would show pop up window which will contain 
customer ID as well as other details like language and location related to 
customer.ideally system whould extract it based on ID.

3) then Agent would insert text related to an issue and he would press save 
button present on pop up window.

4) then Incident should get created.


As per my understanding in this case every agent should have Avaya agent 
installed on his/her machine. Please correct me if i am wrong.

I need help to understand what are the task which needs to be done from Remedy 
side and from avaya side.

Kindly waiting for your reply.

With Regards,

Amit B.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Grooms, Frederick W 
frederick.w.gro...@xo.commailto:frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:
**
What type of integration are you asking for?

Examples
  When a call comes in and is answered by a rep are you looking to pop the 
screen of the rep with the caller's information?
   After the call is complete do you wish to add data to the ticket about call 
timing?
   Do you want the ability for a user in ITSM to have the IVR system make the 
call for them (ARS triggering the user's phone to dial the number)?


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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Need help about IVR integration

**
Hello All,

We are working on requirement about integrating IVR with ITSM . Does anybody 
has any document which could be helpfull for us during the implementation ?

As per my understanding Avaya has it's own API which can push data into either 
staging form or Hpd:help Deks form ? Please correct me if i am wrong.

Regards,

Amit B.


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Developer Studio 7.5 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread Boyd, Rebecca
Good morning,


I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a
Windows box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but
when I make changes “Save” is never enabled. What's up with this?


Rebecca

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Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread Boyd, Rebecca
Oops - my subject line wasn't right...sigh...


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 Good morning,


 I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a
 Windows box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but
 when I make changes “Save” is never enabled. What's up with this?


 Rebecca

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Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread Warren R. Baltimore II
Rebecca, you are probably in Best Practice Mode which means you need to
create an Overlay of the item prior to editing it.

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 **
 Oops - my subject line wasn't right...sigh...


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

  Good morning,


 I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a
 Windows box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but
 when I make changes “Save” is never enabled. What's up with this?


 Rebecca

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Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread LJ LongWing
Are you in bar development mode?  This will be required to modify code on a
non overlay aware server
On Dec 3, 2013 6:35 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

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 Oops - my subject line wasn't right...sigh...


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 Good morning,


 I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a
 Windows box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but
 when I make changes “Save” is never enabled. What's up with this?


 Rebecca

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Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread Boyd, Rebecca
Oh yeah...think I'll go get another cup of coffee before I do anything else.

Thanks guys!


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Are you in bar development mode?  This will be required to modify code on
 a non overlay aware server
 On Dec 3, 2013 6:35 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 **
 Oops - my subject line wasn't right...sigh...


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 Good morning,


 I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a
 Windows box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but
 when I make changes “Save” is never enabled. What's up with this?


 Rebecca

 --
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 Application Administrator
 Wake Forest University




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Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread Tommy Morris
Bar development mode is where I do my best work though.

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

**

Are you in bar development mode?  This will be required to modify code on a non 
overlay aware server
On Dec 3, 2013 6:35 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edumailto:boy...@wfu.edu 
wrote:
**
Oops - my subject line wasn't right...sigh...

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Boyd, Rebecca 
boy...@wfu.edumailto:boy...@wfu.edu wrote:
Good morning,

I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a Windows 
box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but when I make 
changes Save is never enabled. What's up with this?

Rebecca

--
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Application Administrator
Wake Forest University



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Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread Susan Palmer
Best practice - use the same version Dev Studio tool as your ARS server
version.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Tommy Morris tommy.mor...@radioshack.comwrote:

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 Bar development mode is where I do my best work though.



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 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:00 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5



 **

 Are you in bar development mode?  This will be required to modify code on
 a non overlay aware server

 On Dec 3, 2013 6:35 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 **

 Oops - my subject line wasn't right...sigh...



 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 Good morning,



 I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a
 Windows box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but
 when I make changes “Save” is never enabled. What's up with this?



 Rebecca



 --
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 Application Administrator
 Wake Forest University





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Using a nonexistent field in a run if

2013-12-03 Thread Brian Goralczyk
Again, I am trying to be lazy and not do the research myself to figure out
what happens, but what if I use a qualification of :
Field != non-existent field

Would this fire every time?  Never?  Or sometimes?

My instincts tell me that in this case it would fire everytime, but I am
looking for some consensus.

Thanks.

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Re: Using a nonexistent field in a run if

2013-12-03 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

You will not be able to save it in DevStudio on the main form of the workflow
object.

If you have shared workflow, and the field does not exist on some forms, I
think the value of the field will be treated as NULL.

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 Again, I am trying to be lazy and not do the research myself to figure out
 what happens, but what if I use a qualification of :
 Field != non-existent field

 Would this fire every time?  Never?  Or sometimes?

 My instincts tell me that in this case it would fire everytime, but I am
 looking for some consensus.

 Thanks.

 Brian Goralczyk

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Re: Using a nonexistent field in a run if

2013-12-03 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Pretty sure you'll get an error trying to save it in dev studio. Not sure about 
old admin tool!

Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:
 
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 Again, I am trying to be lazy and not do the research myself to figure out 
 what happens, but what if I use a qualification of :
 Field != non-existent field
 
 Would this fire every time?  Never?  Or sometimes?
 
 My instincts tell me that in this case it would fire everytime, but I am 
 looking for some consensus.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Brian Goralczyk
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Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread Andrew Hicox
Hi everyone,

I wanted to check out the new process designer stuff, so I installed 8.1. I
noticed that there were several service packs out for arsystem and the
various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went ahead and installed
those before I went ahead with trying to install process designer.

PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:

The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The integration cannot be
completed on this server.

Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any patches for process designer.

Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards of 3 straight days to
get 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my puny dev VM. Do I
REALLY have to rollback to SP0 to install process designer (then
presumably reapply the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and this error is
bogus and there is some way to bypass it?

-Andy

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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread Pierson, Shawn
From what I've seen, I would stay away from Process Designer.  It's a cool 
concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or 8.x.  We've had several 
issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task Management forms) that 
required small manual fixes simply after installing it.  I encountered some 
other issues in trying to build workflow that I can't recall right now because 
it's been several months, but I think for the most part you'd be safer doing 
customizations to ITSM within ARS.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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Subject: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

** Hi everyone,

I wanted to check out the new process designer stuff, so I installed 8.1. I 
noticed that there were several service packs out for arsystem and the various 
itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went ahead and installed those before I 
went ahead with trying to install process designer.

PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:

The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The integration cannot be 
completed on this server.

Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any patches for process designer.

Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards of 3 straight days to get 
8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my puny dev VM. Do I REALLY 
have to rollback to SP0 to install process designer (then presumably reapply 
the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and this error is bogus and there is some 
way to bypass it?

-Andy
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Re: Using a nonexistent field in a run if

2013-12-03 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Definitely an error in the old admin tool.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Pretty sure you'll get an error trying to save it in dev studio. Not sure
 about old admin tool!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brian Goralczyk bgoralczyk.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 **
 Again, I am trying to be lazy and not do the research myself to figure out
 what happens, but what if I use a qualification of :
 Field != non-existent field

 Would this fire every time?  Never?  Or sometimes?

 My instincts tell me that in this case it would fire everytime, but I am
 looking for some consensus.

 Thanks.

 Brian Goralczyk
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Re: Using a nonexistent field in a run if

2013-12-03 Thread Brian Goralczyk
Well it is coming from the system so it was saved.  Certainly this can
happen if you created the workflow and then deleted the field.  I believe
it will be recognized as NULL as well and can be looked at that way to see
if it will be used or how it will be used.  But I was worried that there
might be some strange twist to it.  It wouldn't be the first time in my
experiences that things didn't act the way I expected.

Thanks,

Brian Goralczyk


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Definitely an error in the old admin tool.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

  Pretty sure you'll get an error trying to save it in dev studio. Not sure
  about old admin tool!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brian Goralczyk bgoralczyk.w...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  **
  Again, I am trying to be lazy and not do the research myself to figure
 out
  what happens, but what if I use a qualification of :
  Field != non-existent field
 
  Would this fire every time?  Never?  Or sometimes?
 
  My instincts tell me that in this case it would fire everytime, but I am
  looking for some consensus.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Brian Goralczyk
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Re: Using a nonexistent field in a run if

2013-12-03 Thread Jason Miller
I thought it would be false every time.  I haven't tried it for a while
however I remember a time when started getting report of an odd behavior.
 Turns out we broke some workflow/feature years prior by deleting a field,
then created a new field using that same ID and the old workflow started to
fire again.  Should be easy enough to test by creating a field on a test
form, some workflow that references it, then delete the field and see if
the workflow still fires.

Jason


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bgoralczyk.w...@gmail.comwrote:

 **
 Well it is coming from the system so it was saved.  Certainly this can
 happen if you created the workflow and then deleted the field.  I believe
 it will be recognized as NULL as well and can be looked at that way to see
 if it will be used or how it will be used.  But I was worried that there
 might be some strange twist to it.  It wouldn't be the first time in my
 experiences that things didn't act the way I expected.

 Thanks,

 Brian Goralczyk


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Definitely an error in the old admin tool.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

  Pretty sure you'll get an error trying to save it in dev studio. Not
 sure
  about old admin tool!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brian Goralczyk 
 bgoralczyk.w...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  **
  Again, I am trying to be lazy and not do the research myself to figure
 out
  what happens, but what if I use a qualification of :
  Field != non-existent field
 
  Would this fire every time?  Never?  Or sometimes?
 
  My instincts tell me that in this case it would fire everytime, but I
 am
  looking for some consensus.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Brian Goralczyk
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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread Jason Miller
I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us avoid building an
AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.  Turns out it was
more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as designed oversight
that makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an SRM processes.

I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it works great but
that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process Designer
doesn't appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can tell PD is
heading for the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is incorrect).

Jason


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shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:

 **

 From what I’ve seen, I would stay away from Process Designer.  It’s a cool
 concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or 8.x.  We’ve had several
 issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task Management forms) that
 required small manual fixes simply after installing it.  I encountered some
 other issues in trying to build workflow that I can’t recall right now
 because it’s been several months, but I think for the most part you’d be
 safer doing customizations to ITSM within ARS.



 Thanks,



 *Shawn Pierson *

 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Hicox
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2



 ** Hi everyone,



 I wanted to check out the new process designer stuff, so I installed 8.1.
 I noticed that there were several service packs out for arsystem and the
 various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went ahead and installed
 those before I went ahead with trying to install process designer.



 PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:



 The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The integration cannot be
 completed on this server.



 Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any patches for process
 designer.



 Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards of 3 straight days to
 get 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my puny dev VM. Do I
 REALLY have to rollback to SP0 to install process designer (then
 presumably reapply the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and this error is
 bogus and there is some way to bypass it?



 -Andy

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Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread Jason Miller
Here here!


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Tommy Morris tommy.mor...@radioshack.comwrote:

 **

 Bar development mode is where I do my best work though.



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 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *LJ LongWing
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:00 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5



 **

 Are you in bar development mode?  This will be required to modify code on
 a non overlay aware server

 On Dec 3, 2013 6:35 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 **

 Oops - my subject line wasn't right...sigh...



 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 Good morning,



 I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a
 Windows box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but
 when I make changes “Save” is never enabled. What's up with this?



 Rebecca



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Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5

2013-12-03 Thread Jason Miller
But some of us like to live on the wild side :)


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Best practice - use the same version Dev Studio tool as your ARS server
 version.


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Tommy Morris 
 tommy.mor...@radioshack.comwrote:

 **

 Bar development mode is where I do my best work though.



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *LJ LongWing
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:00 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Developer Studio 8.1 and ARS 7.5



 **

 Are you in bar development mode?  This will be required to modify code on
 a non overlay aware server

 On Dec 3, 2013 6:35 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 **

 Oops - my subject line wasn't right...sigh...



 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Boyd, Rebecca boy...@wfu.edu wrote:

 Good morning,



 I am trying to use Developer Studio 8.1 against my 7.5 AR System on a
 Windows box with an Oracle 11g database. I can login and open items but
 when I make changes “Save” is never enabled. What's up with this?



 Rebecca



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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: ServiceNow

2013-12-03 Thread Ortega, Jesus A
Natalie,
Its sounds like you've been through this before on several occasions. Are you 
married to an unscrupulous and immoral salesman?

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stroud, Natalie K
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:58 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: ServiceNow

**
Jesus:

I think you would do well to do some more thinking on this idea before you do 
that.  Do you know anything at all about this guy's wife?  After all, the fact 
that the husband may be a bit of a jerk doesn't necessarily mean that she is as 
well.  I know some very sweet-tempered women who let their hearts lead when 
they picked their mate, and it wasn't a terribly good choice, and they are just 
trying to do the best they can with the choice they made.  On the other hand, 
the wife might be a real nightmare with a terrible temper from having to live 
with her pushy and obnoxious bozo of a husband and she might slap you across 
the face as hard as she can or throw her drink in your face for your 
cheekiness!  ;)

I know I am at a stage where I have been forced to endure entirely too much 
distasteful behavior from men and I'm a lot less tolerant than I used to be of 
what I consider to be men behaving badly, although I recognize that sometimes 
you have to leave males to work things out in their own way.  If it were my 
first time meeting you and you did this to me, I most likely wouldn't say 
anything, but I would be feeling really uncomfortable, and assuming that I 
didn't know my husband to be prone to murdering those he didn't like, I would 
probably get up and go into the other room.  You would have made a very poor 
first impression on me, and while it would not be impossible to turn things 
around, you would have to work a lot harder than most new acquaintances to 
overcome that initial bad impression, even if you found a way to slip me an 
explanation for your behavior.  While I can understand wanting to make a point, 
particularly to someone who has made themselves obnoxious, I definitely would 
NOT appreciate being used for such a purpose and in such a threatening way by a 
stranger.  The only sort of person I *might* put up with something like that 
from would be someone who was a life-long friend of my husband - someone who 
might not agree with everything he said or did and wasn't above the occasional 
object lesson to make a point, but who at least had a demonstrated track record 
for caring about the guy, warts and all.  Also, this guy would be familiar 
enough to me from his long acquaintance with my husband that I would hopefully 
recognize that Oh, he's just in 'object lesson mode' and I would know not to 
take such potentially explosive words too seriously.  With a stranger, I'd have 
no context for understanding what is motivating the words being said, so I'd 
have to assume that there is a genuine threat.  Then the question becomes, as 
the wife of this man you don't like, who am I?  If I am just a stay-at-home 
mom, you might be tempted to think, 'What a woman like that thinks doesn't 
matter', but what if there's some crazy connection between us that you aren't 
aware of?  Maybe our kids go the same school and are both in the same school 
band, and I'm a band mom.  If I figure out that your kid is the kid of that guy 
I met at that party who talked so offensively to me, then you are put into a 
position of having to trust me not to either inconvenience or even downright 
harm your kid because I didn't like how you chose to conduct yourself around 
me.  Do you know me well enough to be confident trusting my sense of honor and 
decency that even though I thought *you* behaved like a complete jerk, I'm 
willing to give *your kid* a completely clean slate?  Or what if I'm a board 
member for a company you really want to do some work for?  You've now shown the 
depths that you'll sink to in order to make your point, and if you come looking 
to do business with my company, do you honestly think you're going to get my 
vote after having propositioned me so indecently?

Sometimes these ideas can seem really fun, and they are certainly quite 
interesting to consider, but I also think that they can have some brutal 
unintended consequences.  And I advise thinking long and hard about those 
potential unintended consequences before you let yourself go there.

I'll close with a quote that has made me pause and reflect on many occasions:  
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth 
and remove all doubt.  The source of this quote is not known for certain, but 
it is attributed, variously, to Mark Twain, Abraham Lincoln, the Book of 
Proverbs in the Bible, Maurice Switzer, Arthur Burns, John Maynard Keynes, 
Confucius, and Anonymous.  Regardless of who said it, it remains good advice in 
my books.

Good luck to you (and may you be wise enough to not scare off good luck when it 
comes sniffing your 

Re: Need help about IVR integration

2013-12-03 Thread Remedy consultant
Hello Ali,

Sorry for asking too many questions.


2.   Using Java you can update the AR-System and your IVR if there
Java-API
Comment: correct me if i am wrong , don't we need to have Avaya client
installed on all Agents machine? Ideally Avaya API should get trigger when
user calls User service desk.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Regards,

Amit B.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Ali A. Musa amus...@stc.com.sa wrote:

 **



 The solution

 1.   Create a web-service ate the AR-System

 2.   Using Java you can update the AR-System and your IVR if there
 Java-API

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Remedy consultant
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:53 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Need help about IVR integration



 **

 Hello Ali,



 We are using Remedy ARS server 7.5 patch 8 and ITSM 7.6 patch 001.



 But i do not have answer for your rest of the questions.



 With Regards,



 Amit B.

 On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Ali A. Musa amus...@stc.com.sa wrote:

 **

  I made intergation between RMEDY-6 and IVR using C-API then JAVA-API from
 IVR and interfacing with webservioce at REMEDY, hence there a list of
 questions



 1- What REMEDY version you are workin with

 2- Does AVYA allow API calls, ANSI-C or java to read he translation and
 make the necessary workflow

 2- Does AVAY support web-service integration (i.e. web-based application,
 run under web-server, )


  --

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of Remedy consultant [raccons...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 4:42 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Need help about IVR integration

 **

 Hello ,



 Thnak you for your reply.



 Here my customer is looking for Integrating IM module with IVR using
 avaya. here is the thing we are looking for:



 1) Customer calls help desk and he would hear the message like please
 enter your ID followed by # sign.



 2) as soon as it is done ,system would show pop up window which will
 contain customer ID as well as other details like language and location
 related to customer.ideally system whould extract it based on ID.



 3) then Agent would insert text related to an issue and he would press
 save button present on pop up window.



 4) then Incident should get created.





 As per my understanding in this case every agent should have Avaya agent
 installed on his/her machine. Please correct me if i am wrong.



 I need help to understand what are the task which needs to be done from
 Remedy side and from avaya side.



 Kindly waiting for your reply.



 With Regards,



 Amit B.



 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Grooms, Frederick W 
 frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:

 **

 What type of integration are you asking for?



 Examples

   When a call comes in and is answered by a rep are you looking to “pop”
 the screen of the rep with the caller’s information?

After the call is complete do you wish to add data to the ticket about
 call timing?

Do you want the ability for a user in ITSM to have the IVR system make
 the call for them (ARS triggering the user’s phone to dial the number)?





 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Remedy consultant
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:12 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Need help about IVR integration



 **

 Hello All,



 We are working on requirement about integrating IVR with ITSM . Does
 anybody has any document which could be helpfull for us during the
 implementation ?



 As per my understanding Avaya has it's own API which can push data into
 either staging form or Hpd:help Deks form ? Please correct me if i am
 wrong.



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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Sadly, I'm pretty sure all the developers acquired from Abydos were 
subsequently let go from BMC. If there is any dev work going on, it's probably 
painfully slow. 
It's a shame as I put a lot of time and effort in working with the Abydos guys 
who were awesome to improve the product before it got acquired. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 **
 I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us avoid building an 
 AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.  Turns out it was 
 more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as designed oversight that 
 makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an SRM processes.
 
 I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it works great but 
 that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process Designer doesn't 
 appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can tell PD is heading for 
 the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is incorrect).
 
 Jason
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pierson, Shawn 
 shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:
 **
 From what I’ve seen, I would stay away from Process Designer.  It’s a cool 
 concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or 8.x.  We’ve had several 
 issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task Management forms) that 
 required small manual fixes simply after installing it.  I encountered some 
 other issues in trying to build workflow that I can’t recall right now 
 because it’s been several months, but I think for the most part you’d be 
 safer doing customizations to ITSM within ARS.
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 
 Shawn Pierson
 
 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
 
  
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Hicox
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2
 
  
 
 ** Hi everyone, 
 
  
 
 I wanted to check out the new process designer stuff, so I installed 8.1. I 
 noticed that there were several service packs out for arsystem and the 
 various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went ahead and installed those 
 before I went ahead with trying to install process designer.
 
  
 
 PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:
 
  
 
 The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The integration cannot be 
 completed on this server.
 
  
 
 Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any patches for process designer.
 
  
 
 Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards of 3 straight days to get 
 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my puny dev VM. Do I REALLY 
 have to rollback to SP0 to install process designer (then presumably 
 reapply the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and this error is bogus and 
 there is some way to bypass it?
 
  
 
 -Andy
 
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Re: Need help about IVR integration

2013-12-03 Thread Jason Miller
By looking at your description I am seeing mostly Remedy workflow here.
 You need Avaya to open a form with some context and from there it is
Remedy workflow to query customer info and start a ticket getting it ready
to submit.  Can Avaya open a URL with variable parameters on a support
agent's desktop?

We did this with Cisco CallManager.  CallManager prompts the user if they
have a ticket number and when the call is routed the Cisco agent on the
Service Desk rep's desk opens a browser window using a URL we designed to
open a dialog window and get info about the customer's Incident.  We could
have easily automatically looked up a user's info by their extension even
if they don't enter a ticket number but a large majority of our customers
do not have a dedicated line so we decided it wan't worth pursuing.

Hmmm.  Re-reading your description I guess there could be a desire to
create a ticket before the call is even routed.  In that case what I
described doesn't work and api or web services is the way to go.  Then you
will have an issue getting the ticket to automatically show up on the
support agent's screen.  This is where the Ides Use Push Technology for
creating real-time Remedy
Applicationshttps://communities.bmc.com/ideas/3406would be very
useful.

Jason


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Ali A. Musa amus...@stc.com.sa wrote:

 **



 The solution

 1.   Create a web-service ate the AR-System

 2.   Using Java you can update the AR-System and your IVR if there
 Java-API

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Remedy consultant
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:53 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Need help about IVR integration



 **

 Hello Ali,



 We are using Remedy ARS server 7.5 patch 8 and ITSM 7.6 patch 001.



 But i do not have answer for your rest of the questions.



 With Regards,



 Amit B.

 On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Ali A. Musa amus...@stc.com.sa wrote:

 **

  I made intergation between RMEDY-6 and IVR using C-API then JAVA-API from
 IVR and interfacing with webservioce at REMEDY, hence there a list of
 questions



 1- What REMEDY version you are workin with

 2- Does AVYA allow API calls, ANSI-C or java to read he translation and
 make the necessary workflow

 2- Does AVAY support web-service integration (i.e. web-based application,
 run under web-server, )


  --

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of Remedy consultant [raccons...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 4:42 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Need help about IVR integration

 **

 Hello ,



 Thnak you for your reply.



 Here my customer is looking for Integrating IM module with IVR using
 avaya. here is the thing we are looking for:



 1) Customer calls help desk and he would hear the message like please
 enter your ID followed by # sign.



 2) as soon as it is done ,system would show pop up window which will
 contain customer ID as well as other details like language and location
 related to customer.ideally system whould extract it based on ID.



 3) then Agent would insert text related to an issue and he would press
 save button present on pop up window.



 4) then Incident should get created.





 As per my understanding in this case every agent should have Avaya agent
 installed on his/her machine. Please correct me if i am wrong.



 I need help to understand what are the task which needs to be done from
 Remedy side and from avaya side.



 Kindly waiting for your reply.



 With Regards,



 Amit B.



 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Grooms, Frederick W 
 frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:

 **

 What type of integration are you asking for?



 Examples

   When a call comes in and is answered by a rep are you looking to “pop”
 the screen of the rep with the caller’s information?

After the call is complete do you wish to add data to the ticket about
 call timing?

Do you want the ability for a user in ITSM to have the IVR system make
 the call for them (ARS triggering the user’s phone to dial the number)?





 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Remedy consultant
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:12 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Need help about IVR integration



 **

 Hello All,



 We are working on requirement about integrating IVR with ITSM . Does
 anybody has any document which could be helpfull for us during the
 implementation ?



 As per my understanding Avaya has it's own API which can push data into
 either staging form or Hpd:help Deks form ? Please correct me if i am
 wrong.



 Regards,



 Amit B.





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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread laurent matheo
Somehow that¹s too bad since concept is nice. Problem I see is that in order
to work it just adds a whole bunch of stuff across a lot of formsŠ Creating
sometimes a defect when it was working before (remember the task problem you
pointed out)?
I mean, the visual tracking is nice. Something customers coming from HP were
asking for but I agree, for now it¹s not yet as powerful as it should be,
and I think it should be less intrusive.

De :  Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
Répondre à :  arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date :  mardi 3 décembre 2013 08:46
À :  arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Objet :  Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

** 
I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us avoid building an
AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.  Turns out it was
more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as designed oversight
that makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an SRM processes.

I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it works great but
that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process Designer doesn't
appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can tell PD is heading
for the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is incorrect).

Jason


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pierson, Shawn
shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:
 ** 
 From what I¹ve seen, I would stay away from Process Designer.  It¹s a cool
 concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or 8.x.  We¹ve had several
 issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task Management forms) that
 required small manual fixes simply after installing it.  I encountered some
 other issues in trying to build workflow that I can¹t recall right now because
 it¹s been several months, but I think for the most part you¹d be safer doing
 customizations to ITSM within ARS.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Shawn Pierson 
 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Hicox
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2
 
  
 ** Hi everyone, 
 
  
 
 I wanted to check out the new process designer stuff, so I installed 8.1. I
 noticed that there were several service packs out for arsystem and the various
 itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went ahead and installed those before I
 went ahead with trying to install process designer.
 
  
 
 PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:
 
  
 
 The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The integration cannot be
 completed on this server.
 
  
 
 Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any patches for process designer.
 
  
 
 Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards of 3 straight days to get
 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my puny dev VM. Do I REALLY
 have to rollback to SP0 to install process designer (then presumably reapply
 the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and this error is bogus and there is some
 way to bypass it?
 
  
 
 -Andy
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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread Jason Miller
Taps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps gently plays


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Sadly, I'm pretty sure all the developers acquired from Abydos were
 subsequently let go from BMC. If there is any dev work going on, it's
 probably painfully slow.
 It's a shame as I put a lot of time and effort in working with the Abydos
 guys who were awesome to improve the product before it got acquired.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us avoid building
 an AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.  Turns out it
 was more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as designed
 oversight that makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an SRM
 processes.

 I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it works great but
 that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process Designer
 doesn't appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can tell PD is
 heading for the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is incorrect).

 Jason


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pierson, Shawn 
 shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:

 **

 From what I’ve seen, I would stay away from Process Designer.  It’s a
 cool concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or 8.x.  We’ve had
 several issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task Management forms)
 that required small manual fixes simply after installing it.  I encountered
 some other issues in trying to build workflow that I can’t recall right now
 because it’s been several months, but I think for the most part you’d be
 safer doing customizations to ITSM within ARS.



 Thanks,



 *Shawn Pierson *

 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Hicox
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2



 ** Hi everyone,



 I wanted to check out the new process designer stuff, so I installed 8.1.
 I noticed that there were several service packs out for arsystem and the
 various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went ahead and installed
 those before I went ahead with trying to install process designer.



 PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:



 The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The integration cannot
 be completed on this server.



 Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any patches for process
 designer.



 Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards of 3 straight days to
 get 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my puny dev VM. Do I
 REALLY have to rollback to SP0 to install process designer (then
 presumably reapply the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and this error is
 bogus and there is some way to bypass it?



 -Andy

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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread Jason Miller
Yeah, I am bummed we installed it because we have all of the changes is
made to the ITSM forms.  I am sure this will haunt us in the future.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:08 AM, laurent matheo lm...@me.com wrote:

 **
 Somehow that’s too bad since concept is nice. Problem I see is that in
 order to work it just adds a whole bunch of stuff across a lot of forms…
 Creating sometimes a defect when it was working before (remember the task
 problem you pointed out)?
 I mean, the visual tracking is nice. Something customers coming from HP
 were asking for but I agree, for now it’s not yet as powerful as it should
 be, and I think it should be less intrusive.

 De : Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
 Répondre à : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date : mardi 3 décembre 2013 08:46
 À : arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Objet : Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

 **
 I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us avoid building
 an AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.  Turns out it
 was more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as designed
 oversight that makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an SRM
 processes.

 I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it works great but
 that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process Designer
 doesn't appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can tell PD is
 heading for the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is incorrect).

 Jason


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pierson, Shawn 
 shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:

 **

 From what I’ve seen, I would stay away from Process Designer.  It’s a
 cool concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or 8.x.  We’ve had
 several issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task Management forms)
 that required small manual fixes simply after installing it.  I encountered
 some other issues in trying to build workflow that I can’t recall right now
 because it’s been several months, but I think for the most part you’d be
 safer doing customizations to ITSM within ARS.



 Thanks,



 *Shawn Pierson *

 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Hicox
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2



 ** Hi everyone,



 I wanted to check out the new process designer stuff, so I installed 8.1.
 I noticed that there were several service packs out for arsystem and the
 various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went ahead and installed
 those before I went ahead with trying to install process designer.



 PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:



 The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The integration cannot
 be completed on this server.



 Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any patches for process
 designer.



 Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards of 3 straight days to
 get 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my puny dev VM. Do I
 REALLY have to rollback to SP0 to install process designer (then
 presumably reapply the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and this error is
 bogus and there is some way to bypass it?



 -Andy

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: ServiceNow

2013-12-03 Thread Susan Palmer
To Jesus and Natalie, end your comments on this thread.  Spare us your
personal details.

Susan


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Ortega, Jesus A 
jesus.ort...@lyondellbasell.com wrote:

 **

 Natalie,

 Its sounds like you’ve been through this before on several occasions. Are
 you married to an unscrupulous and immoral salesman?



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Stroud, Natalie K
 *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 5:58 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: ServiceNow



 **

 Jesus:



 I think you would do well to do some more thinking on this idea before you
 do that.  Do you know anything at all about this guy’s wife?  After all,
 the fact that the husband may be a bit of a jerk doesn’t necessarily mean
 that she is as well.  I know some very sweet-tempered women who let their
 hearts lead when they picked their mate, and it wasn’t a terribly good
 choice, and they are just trying to do the best they can with the choice
 they made.  On the other hand, the wife might be a real nightmare with a
 terrible temper from having to live with her pushy and obnoxious bozo of a
 husband and she might slap you across the face as hard as she can or throw
 her drink in your face for your cheekiness!  ;)



 I know I am at a stage where I have been forced to endure entirely too
 much distasteful behavior from men and I’m a lot less tolerant than I used
 to be of what I consider to be “men behaving badly”, although I recognize
 that sometimes you have to leave males to work things out in their own
 way.  If it were my first time meeting you and you did this to me, I most
 likely wouldn’t say anything, but I would be feeling really uncomfortable,
 and assuming that I didn’t know my husband to be prone to murdering those
 he didn’t like, I would probably get up and go into the other room.  You
 would have made a very poor first impression on me, and while it would not
 be impossible to turn things around, you would have to work a lot harder
 than most new acquaintances to overcome that initial bad impression, even
 if you found a way to slip me an explanation for your behavior.  While I
 can understand wanting to make a point, particularly to someone who has
 made themselves obnoxious, I definitely would NOT appreciate being used for
 such a purpose and in such a threatening way by a stranger.  The only sort
 of person I *might* put up with something like that from would be someone
 who was a life-long friend of my husband – someone who might not agree with
 everything he said or did and wasn’t above the occasional object lesson to
 make a point, but who at least had a demonstrated track record for caring
 about the guy, warts and all.  Also, this guy would be familiar enough to
 me from his long acquaintance with my husband that I would hopefully
 recognize that “Oh, he’s just in ‘object lesson mode’” and I would know not
 to take such potentially explosive words too seriously.  With a stranger,
 I’d have no context for understanding what is motivating the words being
 said, so I’d have to assume that there is a genuine threat.  Then the
 question becomes, as the wife of this man you don’t like, who am I?  If I
 am just a stay-at-home mom, you might be tempted to think, ‘What a woman
 like that thinks doesn’t matter’, but what if there’s some crazy connection
 between us that you aren’t aware of?  Maybe our kids go the same school and
 are both in the same school band, and I’m a band mom.  If I figure out that
 your kid is the kid of that guy I met at that party who talked so
 offensively to me, then you are put into a position of having to trust me
 not to either inconvenience or even downright harm your kid because I
 didn’t like how you chose to conduct yourself around me.  Do you know me
 well enough to be confident trusting my sense of honor and decency that
 even though I thought **you** behaved like a complete jerk, I’m willing
 to give **your kid** a completely clean slate?  Or what if I’m a board
 member for a company you really want to do some work for?  You’ve now shown
 the depths that you’ll sink to in order to make your point, and if you come
 looking to do business with my company, do you honestly think you’re going
 to get my vote after having propositioned me so indecently?



 Sometimes these ideas can seem really fun, and they are certainly quite
 interesting to consider, but I also think that they can have some brutal
 unintended consequences.  And I advise thinking long and hard about those
 potential unintended consequences before you let yourself “go there”.



 I’ll close with a quote that has made me pause and reflect on many
 occasions:  “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to
 open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”  The source of this quote is not
 known for certain, but it is attributed, variously, to Mark Twain, Abraham
 Lincoln, the Book of Proverbs in the Bible, 

Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread John Bilinski [G2SF]
I ran into this issue a month back when Hot-fix patch 002 was released for
the ARS. The problem is with the ARS hotfix arserver.exe. What BMC had me do
was replace the arserver.exe w/ the original base 8.1.00 .exe, then re-run
the PDICT and perform the install steps and integration steps to completion.
Then replace the patch 002 arserver.exe.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:09 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

** 
Taps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps  gently plays


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:


** 
Sadly, I'm pretty sure all the developers acquired from Abydos were
subsequently let go from BMC. If there is any dev work going on, it's
probably painfully slow. 
It's a shame as I put a lot of time and effort in working with the
Abydos guys who were awesome to improve the product before it got acquired. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
wrote:



** 
I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us
avoid building an AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.
Turns out it was more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as
designed oversight that makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an
SRM processes.

I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it
works great but that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process
Designer doesn't appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can tell
PD is heading for the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is
incorrect).

Jason


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pierson, Shawn
shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:


** 

From what I've seen, I would stay away from Process
Designer.  It's a cool concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or
8.x.  We've had several issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task
Management forms) that required small manual fixes simply after installing
it.  I encountered some other issues in trying to build workflow that I
can't recall right now because it's been several months, but I think for the
most part you'd be safer doing customizations to ITSM within ARS.

 

Thanks,

 

Shawn Pierson 

Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Hicox
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

 

** Hi everyone, 

 

I wanted to check out the new process designer
stuff, so I installed 8.1. I noticed that there were several service packs
out for arsystem and the various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went
ahead and installed those before I went ahead with trying to install process
designer.

 

PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:

 

The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The
integration cannot be completed on this server.

 

Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any
patches for process designer.

 

Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards
of 3 straight days to get 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my
puny dev VM. Do I REALLY have to rollback to SP0 to install process
designer (then presumably reapply the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and
this error is bogus and there is some way to bypass it?

 

-Andy

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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread laurent matheo
Interesting…
Only the arserver.exe, not the folder « /Arserver/systemforms/ as well?


Le 3 déc. 2013 à 09:12, John Bilinski [G2SF] jbilin...@g2sf.com a écrit :

 I ran into this issue a month back when Hot-fix patch 002 was released for
 the ARS. The problem is with the ARS hotfix arserver.exe. What BMC had me do
 was replace the arserver.exe w/ the original base 8.1.00 .exe, then re-run
 the PDICT and perform the install steps and integration steps to completion.
 Then replace the patch 002 arserver.exe.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:09 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2
 
 ** 
 Taps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps  gently plays
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
   ** 
   Sadly, I'm pretty sure all the developers acquired from Abydos were
 subsequently let go from BMC. If there is any dev work going on, it's
 probably painfully slow. 
   It's a shame as I put a lot of time and effort in working with the
 Abydos guys who were awesome to improve the product before it got acquired. 
   
   Sent from my iPhone
 
   On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
   
 
   ** 
   I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us
 avoid building an AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.
 Turns out it was more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as
 designed oversight that makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an
 SRM processes.
 
   I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it
 works great but that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process
 Designer doesn't appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can tell
 PD is heading for the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is
 incorrect).
 
   Jason
 
 
   On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pierson, Shawn
 shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:
   
 
   ** 
 
   From what I've seen, I would stay away from Process
 Designer.  It's a cool concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or
 8.x.  We've had several issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task
 Management forms) that required small manual fixes simply after installing
 it.  I encountered some other issues in trying to build workflow that I
 can't recall right now because it's been several months, but I think for the
 most part you'd be safer doing customizations to ITSM within ARS.
 

 
   Thanks,
 

 
   Shawn Pierson 
 
   Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
 

 
   From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Hicox
   Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
   Subject: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2
 

 
   ** Hi everyone, 
 

 
   I wanted to check out the new process designer
 stuff, so I installed 8.1. I noticed that there were several service packs
 out for arsystem and the various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went
 ahead and installed those before I went ahead with trying to install process
 designer.
 

 
   PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:
 

 
   The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The
 integration cannot be completed on this server.
 

 
   Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any
 patches for process designer.
 

 
   Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards
 of 3 straight days to get 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my
 puny dev VM. Do I REALLY have to rollback to SP0 to install process
 designer (then presumably reapply the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and
 this error is bogus and there is some way to bypass it?
 

 
   -Andy
 
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ARS 8.1 C Plugin issue

2013-12-03 Thread Anbazhagan, Gopi
Hello List,

I am getting below error when I start remedy server after loading  C plugin 
(this C plugin originaly built in solaris , now I have recompiled that in RHEL 
6.4 got 32 bit .so file)


Action Request System(R)  Plug-In Server   Version 8.1.00.002 201308272305Hotfix

(c) Copyright 2001-2013 BMC Software, Inc.

./arplugin: symbol lookup error: /apps/tim/ar/bin/arfpdqfrench.so: undefined 
symbol: ARInitialization


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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread Andrew Hicox
LOL wow!

Elvisin the ghetoo /Elvis

I might give that a shot but from the thread so far it sounds like the
whole thing is a mess of trouble.

Thanks,

Andy

On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, John Bilinski [G2SF] wrote:

 I ran into this issue a month back when Hot-fix patch 002 was released for
 the ARS. The problem is with the ARS hotfix arserver.exe. What BMC had me
 do
 was replace the arserver.exe w/ the original base 8.1.00 .exe, then re-run
 the PDICT and perform the install steps and integration steps to
 completion.
 Then replace the patch 002 arserver.exe.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG javascript:;] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:09 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG javascript:;
 Subject: Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

 **
 Taps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps  gently plays


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:


 **
 Sadly, I'm pretty sure all the developers acquired from Abydos were
 subsequently let go from BMC. If there is any dev work going on, it's
 probably painfully slow.
 It's a shame as I put a lot of time and effort in working with the
 Abydos guys who were awesome to improve the product before it got acquired.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
 wrote:



 **
 I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us
 avoid building an AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.
 Turns out it was more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as
 designed oversight that makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an
 SRM processes.

 I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it
 works great but that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process
 Designer doesn't appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can
 tell
 PD is heading for the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is
 incorrect).

 Jason


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pierson, Shawn
 shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:


 **

 From what I've seen, I would stay away from Process
 Designer.  It's a cool concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or
 8.x.  We've had several issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task
 Management forms) that required small manual fixes simply after installing
 it.  I encountered some other issues in trying to build workflow that I
 can't recall right now because it's been several months, but I think for
 the
 most part you'd be safer doing customizations to ITSM within ARS.



 Thanks,



 Shawn Pierson

 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer



 From: Action Request System discussion
 list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Hicox
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2



 ** Hi everyone,



 I wanted to check out the new process designer
 stuff, so I installed 8.1. I noticed that there were several service packs
 out for arsystem and the various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went
 ahead and installed those before I went ahead with trying to install
 process
 designer.



 PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to
 install:



 The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported.
 The
 integration cannot be completed on this server.



 Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any
 patches for process designer.
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Re: Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2

2013-12-03 Thread John Sundberg
ADV:


Yes - I believe PD is hitting the scrap pile.

I have given demos of the Kinetic Task engine to roughly 100 BMC engineers
(employees) in the last 2 years. Of which I would say 95%+ said they prefer
it to PD.

Also — did you know starting with Task Engine 3.1 … you can now use Kinetic
Task behind SRM???

Actually - you can use Kinetic Task - behind any process —
Incident/Change/Asset/etc…

So - if interested — you should attend KEG - and learn how to use Kinetic
Task behind whatever you would like.
http://www.kineticdata.com/events/keg/

Or email me off list: john.sundb...@kineticdata.com


-John





On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.comwrote:

 **
 I agree.  We were excited because it was going to help us avoid building
 an AIF in one case and be pretty darn useful in many others.  Turns out it
 was more pain then it was worth.  We found a working as designed
 oversight that makes it pretty useless when trying to use for an SRM
 processes.

 I am sure if you work with it in just the right context it works great but
 that context seems a bit narrow and as Andrew noted Process Designer
 doesn't appear to be getting any update love.  As far as I can tell PD is
 heading for the scrap pile (BMC please let me know if this is incorrect).

 Jason


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pierson, Shawn 
 shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:

 **

 From what I’ve seen, I would stay away from Process Designer.  It’s a
 cool concept but nowhere near Production-ready on 7.6 or 8.x.  We’ve had
 several issues caused by it (it wreaks havoc on the Task Management forms)
 that required small manual fixes simply after installing it.  I encountered
 some other issues in trying to build workflow that I can’t recall right now
 because it’s been several months, but I think for the most part you’d be
 safer doing customizations to ITSM within ARS.



 Thanks,



 *Shawn Pierson *

 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Hicox
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:50 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Process designer + ars 8.1 sp 2



 ** Hi everyone,



 I wanted to check out the new process designer stuff, so I installed 8.1.
 I noticed that there were several service packs out for arsystem and the
 various itsm modules so I (perhaps foolishly) went ahead and installed
 those before I went ahead with trying to install process designer.



 PDICT 8.3.3 now throws this error trying to install:



 The Remedy version 8.1.00.002 is not supported. The integration cannot
 be completed on this server.



 Unless I'm blind, there don't appear to be any patches for process
 designer.



 Anyone else out there seeing this? It took upwards of 3 straight days to
 get 8.1 + all the latest service packs installed on my puny dev VM. Do I
 REALLY have to rollback to SP0 to install process designer (then
 presumably reapply the service packs). Maybe I'm lucky and this error is
 bogus and there is some way to bypass it?



 -Andy

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Re: ARS 8.1 C Plugin issue

2013-12-03 Thread Danny Kellett
Hi

Post your make file but it looks like you have not linked to the arapi

Regards
Danny

 On 3 Dec 2013, at 17:31, Anbazhagan, Gopi gopi.anbazha...@cgi.com wrote:
 
 **
 Hello List,
  
 I am getting below error when I start remedy server after loading  C plugin 
 (this C plugin originaly built in solaris , now I have recompiled that in 
 RHEL 6.4 got 32 bit .so file)
  
 Action Request System(R)  Plug-In Server   Version 8.1.00.002 
 201308272305Hotfix
 (c) Copyright 2001-2013 BMC Software, Inc.
 ./arplugin: symbol lookup error: /apps/tim/ar/bin/arfpdqfrench.so: undefined 
 symbol: ARInitialization
  
  
 Thanks  regards,
 Gopi Anbazhagan | IT Consultant
 ESS| India Global Delivery Center | CGI
 DLF SEZ, 4th Floor, Block 5, Manapakkam, Chennai - 600 089 | India
 Registered Office: 124-125, Divyasree Technopolis, Off Airport Road, 
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SRD creating a CI in class BMC_REQUESTABLEOFFERING

2013-12-03 Thread Atul Vohra



Hi
In a 7.6.04 ARS system, when a SRD is created a CI (with SRD name) is created 
in Class�BMC_REQUESTABLEOFFERING.
Is this required by SRM? If not can it be stopped. These CIs are popping up 
when CIs are being searched from a Incident or Change.
�
Any help would
be appreciated.
Thanks
Atul

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Re: ARS 8.1 C Plugin issue

2013-12-03 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

It could also be that your LD_LIBRARY_PATH does not point to the
arapi***.so*** file.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Hi

 Post your make file but it looks like you have not linked to the arapi

 Regards
 Danny

 On 3 Dec 2013, at 17:31, Anbazhagan, Gopi gopi.anbazha...@cgi.com wrote:

 **
 Hello List,

 I am getting below error when I start remedy server after loading  C plugin
 (this C plugin originaly built in solaris , now I have recompiled that in
 RHEL 6.4 got 32 bit .so file)

 Action Request System(R)  Plug-In Server   Version 8.1.00.002
 201308272305Hotfix
 (c) Copyright 2001-2013 BMC Software, Inc.
 ./arplugin: symbol lookup error: /apps/tim/ar/bin/arfpdqfrench.so: undefined
 symbol: ARInitialization


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 ESS| India Global Delivery Center | CGI
 DLF SEZ, 4th Floor, Block 5, Manapakkam, Chennai - 600 089 | India
 Registered Office: 124-125, Divyasree Technopolis, Off Airport Road,
 Bangalore - 560 037
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Re: Using a nonexistent field in a run if

2013-12-03 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Because of the shared workflow concept, which has been around for a while, I
think that it will safely interpret as NULL and not cause any other issues.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Well it is coming from the system so it was saved.  Certainly this can
 happen if you created the workflow and then deleted the field.  I believe
 it will be recognized as NULL as well and can be looked at that way to see
 if it will be used or how it will be used.  But I was worried that there
 might be some strange twist to it.  It wouldn't be the first time in my
 experiences that things didn't act the way I expected.

 Thanks,

 Brian Goralczyk


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Definitely an error in the old admin tool.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

  Pretty sure you'll get an error trying to save it in dev studio. Not sure
  about old admin tool!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brian Goralczyk bgoralczyk.w...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  **
  Again, I am trying to be lazy and not do the research myself to figure
 out
  what happens, but what if I use a qualification of :
  Field != non-existent field
 
  Would this fire every time?  Never?  Or sometimes?
 
  My instincts tell me that in this case it would fire everytime, but I am
  looking for some consensus.
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: Runmacro fails

2013-12-03 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Apparently the tool tries to export the definitions (exp) of HPD:Help Desk,
and consequently crashes...

The vfc apparently compares your currrent def-version-timestamp to the one of
the server, and finds it necessary to get the definjition again. You have
probably updated the form since it was retrieved the last time some 7 days
ago...

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Hi,

 \$NULL\$ worked out and got results. On the otherhand, captured arapires and
 cmd logs after executing the runmacro with recorded macro files.  I need
 assistance on troubleshooting these logs, since I didn’t see any Error
 messages in these logs. Unfortunately, no links found in communities as of
 now.

 In cmd_1, after validate form cache, the below entry was logged and
 Segmentation fault error displayed in putty.

 # ARValidateFormCache
 #
 vfc
 HPD:Help Desk
 1385469149
 1385469149
 1385469149
 #
 # ARExport
 #
 exp
 1
 1
 2
 HPD:Help Desk
 0
 ** FILE NAME **

 Any simple way to understand what went wrong

 Regards,
 Govind M

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:03 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Runmacro fails

 Hi,

 ...$NULL$... will be expanded by the shell to ...$..., which explains that
 problem.

 Try ...\$NULL\$... instead.

 Then you can set environment ARAPILOGGING=1 and check the resulting arapicmd*
 and arapires* files to see how far the tool gets when you try to run the Macro
 you were talking about earlier.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

 Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Misi,

 I have used ftp as well as scp. But still no results.

 Also, the below format throws the error as Unknown reference fields
 when the parser intercepts the $ symbol.

 runmacro -x servername -U username -P password -o
 /App1/report.csv -f HPD:Help Desk -t csv -q   ('UAN GO Number' !=
 $NULL$ OR 'VAS exists flag'
 != $NULL$) AND 'Status*'  4

 Accessing server - servername...

 Processing form - HPD:Help Desk ...
 Unknown field reference -  position 47   (...ists flag' != $^) AND
 'Status*'...) [ARERR 2297]

 Server - servername access complete with total matches of 0 record(s).

 Thanks,
 Govind M
 +91 8123458366
 Atheeb Remedy Team

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 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
 Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:18 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Runmacro fails

 Hi,

 Copy/paste seems to be a bad idea, as there are some special control
 characters in the file.

 I suggest you use ftp or scp instead, and see if that helps.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
 2011)

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 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Hi listers,

 I was trying to execute the below command in Putty.

 ./runmacro -d path of macrofile -x servername -U username -P
 password -e reportsavedname

 It gives the below statement and exist. As a prequisite, I have
 updated the path of macrofile and runmacro binary in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
 Also added
 LoadSchemaFromCache: F in conf. But no result.

 Action Request System  Unix Runmacro Version 7.1.00 Copyright (c) BMC
 Software, Inc. 1991-2007. All rights reserved.

 Executing macro - UANVASReport. Please wait...
 Segmentation Fault (core dumped)

 But I still have a doubt on the format of *.arq file which was
 recorded in windows client and copy pasted into unix directory with
 permissions.  I just changed the to file: path adjusting to Unix format.

 Is there something I am missing to do.? Appreciate any suggestion.

 Solaris 10, ARS 7.1 Patch 8

 Thanks,
 Govind

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Re: Using a nonexistent field in a run if

2013-12-03 Thread Brian Goralczyk
Thank you Misi.  I was thinking the same thing but I was afraid someone
would throw some wrench into the process on me.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Because of the shared workflow concept, which has been around for a while,
 I
 think that it will safely interpret as NULL and not cause any other issues.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

  Well it is coming from the system so it was saved.  Certainly this can
  happen if you created the workflow and then deleted the field.  I believe
  it will be recognized as NULL as well and can be looked at that way to
 see
  if it will be used or how it will be used.  But I was worried that there
  might be some strange twist to it.  It wouldn't be the first time in my
  experiences that things didn't act the way I expected.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Brian Goralczyk
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Definitely an error in the old admin tool.
 
  Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se
 
   Pretty sure you'll get an error trying to save it in dev studio. Not
 sure
   about old admin tool!
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brian Goralczyk 
 bgoralczyk.w...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
  
   **
   Again, I am trying to be lazy and not do the research myself to
 figure
  out
   what happens, but what if I use a qualification of :
   Field != non-existent field
  
   Would this fire every time?  Never?  Or sometimes?
  
   My instincts tell me that in this case it would fire everytime, but
 I am
   looking for some consensus.
  
   Thanks.
  
   Brian Goralczyk
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Re: SRD creating a CI in class BMC_REQUESTABLEOFFERING

2013-12-03 Thread Terry Bootsma
Hi Atul:
 
This is part of modelling your Business Services .  If you look at the BMC
Atrium documentation about how to build your Service Model, you will find
reference to Requestable Offerings there.
 
If you are creating SRDs without a Service Model, well you're going to
have to handle these CIs appropriately
 
Terry
 

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Sent: December-03-13 3:46 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: SRD creating a CI in class BMC_REQUESTABLEOFFERING


** 

Hi

In a 7.6.04 ARS system, when a SRD is created a CI (with SRD name) is
created in Class BMC_REQUESTABLEOFFERING.

Is this required by SRM? If not can it be stopped. These CIs are popping up
when CIs are being searched from a Incident or Change.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Atul

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Re: SRD creating a CI in class BMC_REQUESTABLEOFFERING

2013-12-03 Thread Atul Vohra



Hi Terry -
Appreciate your response. Is there a configuration that I could change to stop 
SRDs automatically create a CI?


Atul
 Original Message 

Subject: Re: SRD creating a CI in class BMC_REQUESTABLEOFFERING

From: Terry Bootsma tboot...@objectpath.com

Date: Tue, December 3, 2013 8:47 pm

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

--



 Hi Atul:



 This is part of modelling your Business Services . If you look at the BMC

 Atrium documentation about how to build your Service Model, you will find

 reference to Requestable Offerings there.



 If you are creating SRDs without a Service Model, well you're going to

 have to handle these CIs appropriately



 Terry





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 **



 Hi



 In a 7.6.04 ARS system, when a SRD is created a CI (with SRD name) is

 created in Class BMC_REQUESTABLEOFFERING.



 Is this required by SRM? If not can it be stopped. These CIs are popping up

 when CIs are being searched from a Incident or Change.







 Any help would be appreciated.



 Thanks



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Re: Need help about IVR integration

2013-12-03 Thread Ali A. Musa
I am capable of doing so? I can do it remotely? If you are in Canada and USA I 
will be from Dec-21-to-Jan-5? I can perform this job?

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Subject: Re: Need help about IVR integration

**
Hello Ali,

Sorry for asking too many questions.


2.   Using Java you can update the AR-System and your IVR if there Java-API
Comment: correct me if i am wrong , don't we need to have Avaya client 
installed on all Agents machine? Ideally Avaya API should get trigger when user 
calls User service desk.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Regards,

Amit B.
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Ali A. Musa 
amus...@stc.com.samailto:amus...@stc.com.sa wrote:
**

The solution

1.   Create a web-service ate the AR-System

2.   Using Java you can update the AR-System and your IVR if there Java-API
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Subject: Re: Need help about IVR integration

**
Hello Ali,

We are using Remedy ARS server 7.5 patch 8 and ITSM 7.6 patch 001.

But i do not have answer for your rest of the questions.

With Regards,

Amit B.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Ali A. Musa 
amus...@stc.com.samailto:amus...@stc.com.sa wrote:
**

 I made intergation between RMEDY-6 and IVR using C-API then JAVA-API from IVR 
and interfacing with webservioce at REMEDY, hence there a list of questions



1- What REMEDY version you are workin with

2- Does AVYA allow API calls, ANSI-C or java to read he translation and make 
the necessary workflow

2- Does AVAY support web-service integration (i.e. web-based application, run 
under web-server, )




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Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:42 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need help about IVR integration
**
Hello ,

Thnak you for your reply.

Here my customer is looking for Integrating IM module with IVR using avaya. 
here is the thing we are looking for:

1) Customer calls help desk and he would hear the message like please enter 
your ID followed by # sign.

2) as soon as it is done ,system would show pop up window which will contain 
customer ID as well as other details like language and location related to 
customer.ideally system whould extract it based on ID.

3) then Agent would insert text related to an issue and he would press save 
button present on pop up window.

4) then Incident should get created.


As per my understanding in this case every agent should have Avaya agent 
installed on his/her machine. Please correct me if i am wrong.

I need help to understand what are the task which needs to be done from Remedy 
side and from avaya side.

Kindly waiting for your reply.

With Regards,

Amit B.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Grooms, Frederick W 
frederick.w.gro...@xo.commailto:frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:
**
What type of integration are you asking for?

Examples
  When a call comes in and is answered by a rep are you looking to pop the 
screen of the rep with the caller's information?
   After the call is complete do you wish to add data to the ticket about call 
timing?
   Do you want the ability for a user in ITSM to have the IVR system make the 
call for them (ARS triggering the user's phone to dial the number)?


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Subject: Need help about IVR integration

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Hello All,

We are working on requirement about integrating IVR with ITSM . Does anybody 
has any document which could be helpfull for us during the implementation ?

As per my understanding Avaya has it's own API which can push data into either 
staging form or Hpd:help Deks form ? Please correct me if i am wrong.

Regards,

Amit B.


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