Re: Exit Guide Problem
The good thing is you were able to resolve it, and it was a good topic of discussion anyway. Your standing in the list is in no way diminished at all whatsoever, so no need to feel negative feelings! Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 9:14 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Oh boy, I'm an idiot and very embarrassed. So, here's the deal - it works. My first pass at implementing this functionality had all the actions in a single active link. I converted the actions to an active link guide so I could do the verifications and stop processing on the exit guide action if a check failed. However, I never changed my original active link to call the new guide... Sigh Thanks for all your help guys. I hate it when I do this to myself... :-) Lyle -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hum, Edward Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:40 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem hmm.. ok so you are doing a window open action to display the dialog. So on your On Close action, set a flag on your parent form (Exit = "Y"), the Exit All active link will validate that flag. If Exit = "Y", then execute the Exit All active link. Edward Hum -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:07 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem That's essentially what I'm doing. The only difference is that the last AL displays a dialog and then does the Exit All Guides. I tried changing it so that the exit all guides was in its own active link, but that doesn't appear to have made a difference. I also tried disabling the AL that displays the dialog (just in case that was introducing some other dynamic that might change the behavior), and that also didn't change anything. Lyle -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hum, Edward Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:56 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem What I have done in the past to do a complete guide exit within nested guides is when your conditions are satisfied (or not, depending on your code), I do a GOTO label action, such as "EXIT", there is only one active link after that label and that does the Exit all guides action. Start AL1 AL2 AL3 Exit AL (Exit all guides) Edward Hum ITIL V3 Foundation Certified BMC Software Certified Consultant ITSM 7.x - IM/PM/AMD Phone: +01-905-231-1631 Email: hum.edw...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardhum -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" open
Re: Exit Guide Problem
Oh boy, I'm an idiot and very embarrassed. So, here's the deal - it works. My first pass at implementing this functionality had all the actions in a single active link. I converted the actions to an active link guide so I could do the verifications and stop processing on the exit guide action if a check failed. However, I never changed my original active link to call the new guide... Sigh Thanks for all your help guys. I hate it when I do this to myself... :-) Lyle -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hum, Edward Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:40 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem hmm.. ok so you are doing a window open action to display the dialog. So on your On Close action, set a flag on your parent form (Exit = "Y"), the Exit All active link will validate that flag. If Exit = "Y", then execute the Exit All active link. Edward Hum -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:07 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem That's essentially what I'm doing. The only difference is that the last AL displays a dialog and then does the Exit All Guides. I tried changing it so that the exit all guides was in its own active link, but that doesn't appear to have made a difference. I also tried disabling the AL that displays the dialog (just in case that was introducing some other dynamic that might change the behavior), and that also didn't change anything. Lyle -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hum, Edward Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:56 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem What I have done in the past to do a complete guide exit within nested guides is when your conditions are satisfied (or not, depending on your code), I do a GOTO label action, such as "EXIT", there is only one active link after that label and that does the Exit all guides action. Start AL1 AL2 AL3 Exit AL (Exit all guides) Edward Hum ITIL V3 Foundation Certified BMC Software Certified Consultant ITSM 7.x - IM/PM/AMD Phone: +01-905-231-1631 Email: hum.edw...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardhum -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting t
Re: Exit Guide Problem
hmm.. ok so you are doing a window open action to display the dialog. So on your On Close action, set a flag on your parent form (Exit = "Y"), the Exit All active link will validate that flag. If Exit = "Y", then execute the Exit All active link. Edward Hum -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:07 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem That's essentially what I'm doing. The only difference is that the last AL displays a dialog and then does the Exit All Guides. I tried changing it so that the exit all guides was in its own active link, but that doesn't appear to have made a difference. I also tried disabling the AL that displays the dialog (just in case that was introducing some other dynamic that might change the behavior), and that also didn't change anything. Lyle -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hum, Edward Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:56 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem What I have done in the past to do a complete guide exit within nested guides is when your conditions are satisfied (or not, depending on your code), I do a GOTO label action, such as "EXIT", there is only one active link after that label and that does the Exit all guides action. Start AL1 AL2 AL3 Exit AL (Exit all guides) Edward Hum ITIL V3 Foundation Certified BMC Software Certified Consultant ITSM 7.x - IM/PM/AMD Phone: +01-905-231-1631 Email: hum.edw...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardhum -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting the Save Record guide properly. However, it still runs the rest of the Submit Record guide. Any ideas why it might be behaving this way? Thanks, Lyle Taylor NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisolut
Re: Exit Guide Problem
That's essentially what I'm doing. The only difference is that the last AL displays a dialog and then does the Exit All Guides. I tried changing it so that the exit all guides was in its own active link, but that doesn't appear to have made a difference. I also tried disabling the AL that displays the dialog (just in case that was introducing some other dynamic that might change the behavior), and that also didn't change anything. Lyle -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hum, Edward Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:56 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem What I have done in the past to do a complete guide exit within nested guides is when your conditions are satisfied (or not, depending on your code), I do a GOTO label action, such as "EXIT", there is only one active link after that label and that does the Exit all guides action. Start AL1 AL2 AL3 Exit AL (Exit all guides) Edward Hum ITIL V3 Foundation Certified BMC Software Certified Consultant ITSM 7.x - IM/PM/AMD Phone: +01-905-231-1631 Email: hum.edw...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardhum -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting the Save Record guide properly. However, it still runs the rest of the Submit Record guide. Any ideas why it might be behaving this way? Thanks, Lyle Taylor NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _Platinum Sponsor: rmi
Re: Exit Guide Problem
What I have done in the past to do a complete guide exit within nested guides is when your conditions are satisfied (or not, depending on your code), I do a GOTO label action, such as "EXIT", there is only one active link after that label and that does the Exit all guides action. Start AL1 AL2 AL3 Exit AL (Exit all guides) Edward Hum ITIL V3 Foundation Certified BMC Software Certified Consultant ITSM 7.x - IM/PM/AMD Phone: +01-905-231-1631 Email: hum.edw...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardhum -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 5:41 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Despite never having used nested al guides AND an 'exit all guides' action, your and my understanding are essentially the same. I would see if I was able to replicate the functionality in a small form with sample workflow with 'you should never get this message' messages in the first level, and see if you can stop the processing. If you can't, definitely log a bug, if you can, then further analysis is needed to determine what is different between your scenario and the simplified version. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:36 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Sorry, I wasnt clear. The workflow that Im trying to get to work doesnt actually fire an error. Im checking for my defined error conditions (e.g., required fields not being filled in) and then displaying an error message in a custom dialog. At that point, I call the Exit Guide with Exit All Guides selected to stop processing at that point. That doesnt seem to be working, though, and Im not sure why. The guide its been called from at this point is nested down a couple levels, and it manages to stop processing in the guide immediately above it, but not the one above that. So, my Save Records guide stops executing and doesnt save the record, but the Submit Record guide still completes (which tells the user that the record was saved successfully) even though there is an error condition that called Exit All Guides. Does that make sense? As I understand it, the Exit All Guides option should have cause all three guides to stop processing at that point. Am I misunderstanding something? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:28 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Errors stop processing immediately, so an exit guide after an error message would never fire. You could try moving it to prior to the error, then throw the error? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Then that sounds like it probably wont do what I want, because I want processing to stop at that point. That was the point of adding the Exit Guide after I display the error message. That just doesnt seem to be working the way I thought it would Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Error handlers fire on ANY error condition, be it system or human. If you however generate an error handler for a user error, and don't display the error, your handler filter needs to do whatever to correct the problem because if you don't throw an error at the end of it then the transaction gets committed to the DB. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:53 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** good question. I have not tested the error handling filters with a user generated error message, only with system error messages, but it should work give it shot. The error handling feature kicks in when the filter encounters an error. The documentation is not clear about whether it is a system error or a "user" error, so the only way to find out is testing it... Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am c
Re: Exit Guide Problem
Despite never having used nested al guides AND an 'exit all guides' action, your and my understanding are essentially the same. I would see if I was able to replicate the functionality in a small form with sample workflow with 'you should never get this message' messages in the first level, and see if you can stop the processing. If you can't, definitely log a bug, if you can, then further analysis is needed to determine what is different between your scenario and the simplified version. _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:36 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Sorry, I wasn't clear. The workflow that I'm trying to get to work doesn't actually fire an error. I'm checking for my defined error conditions (e.g., required fields not being filled in) and then displaying an error message in a custom dialog. At that point, I call the Exit Guide with Exit All Guides selected to stop processing at that point. That doesn't seem to be working, though, and I'm not sure why. The guide it's been called from at this point is nested down a couple levels, and it manages to stop processing in the guide immediately above it, but not the one above that. So, my Save Records guide stops executing and doesn't save the record, but the Submit Record guide still completes (which tells the user that the record was saved successfully) even though there is an "error condition" that called Exit All Guides. Does that make sense? As I understand it, the Exit All Guides option should have cause all three guides to stop processing at that point. Am I misunderstanding something? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:28 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Errors stop processing immediately, so an exit guide after an error message would never fire. You could try moving it to prior to the error, then throw the error? _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Then that sounds like it probably won't do what I want, because I want processing to stop at that point. That was the point of adding the Exit Guide after I display the error message. That just doesn't seem to be working the way I thought it would. Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Error handlers fire on ANY error condition, be it system or human. If you however generate an error handler for a user error, and don't display the error, your handler filter needs to do whatever to correct the problem because if you don't throw an error at the end of it then the transaction gets committed to the DB. _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:53 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** good question. I have not tested the error handling filters with a user generated error message, only with system error messages, but it should work give it shot. The error handling feature kicks in when the filter encounters an error. The documentation is not clear about whether it is a system error or a "user" error, so the only way to find out is testing it... Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am checking for it and then trying to raise that error to the user in a friendly way while stopping further processing. I know I can display a Message of type Error, but that is what I'm trying to avoid. If I "display" a Message of type Error and then define an error handler, will it keep that message from popping up? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling
Re: Exit Guide Problem
Sorry, I wasn't clear. The workflow that I'm trying to get to work doesn't actually fire an error. I'm checking for my defined error conditions (e.g., required fields not being filled in) and then displaying an error message in a custom dialog. At that point, I call the Exit Guide with Exit All Guides selected to stop processing at that point. That doesn't seem to be working, though, and I'm not sure why. The guide it's been called from at this point is nested down a couple levels, and it manages to stop processing in the guide immediately above it, but not the one above that. So, my Save Records guide stops executing and doesn't save the record, but the Submit Record guide still completes (which tells the user that the record was saved successfully) even though there is an "error condition" that called Exit All Guides. Does that make sense? As I understand it, the Exit All Guides option should have cause all three guides to stop processing at that point. Am I misunderstanding something? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:28 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Errors stop processing immediately, so an exit guide after an error message would never fire. You could try moving it to prior to the error, then throw the error? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Then that sounds like it probably won't do what I want, because I want processing to stop at that point. That was the point of adding the Exit Guide after I display the error message. That just doesn't seem to be working the way I thought it would... Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Error handlers fire on ANY error condition, be it system or human. If you however generate an error handler for a user error, and don't display the error, your handler filter needs to do whatever to correct the problem because if you don't throw an error at the end of it then the transaction gets committed to the DB. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:53 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** good question. I have not tested the error handling filters with a user generated error message, only with system error messages, but it should work give it shot. The error handling feature kicks in when the filter encounters an error. The documentation is not clear about whether it is a system error or a "user" error, so the only way to find out is testing it... Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am checking for it and then trying to raise that error to the user in a friendly way while stopping further processing. I know I can display a Message of type Error, but that is what I'm trying to avoid. If I "display" a Message of type Error and then define an error handler, will it keep that message from popping up? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling filter Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that
Re: Exit Guide Problem
Errors stop processing immediately, so an exit guide after an error message would never fire. You could try moving it to prior to the error, then throw the error? _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Then that sounds like it probably won't do what I want, because I want processing to stop at that point. That was the point of adding the Exit Guide after I display the error message. That just doesn't seem to be working the way I thought it would. Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Error handlers fire on ANY error condition, be it system or human. If you however generate an error handler for a user error, and don't display the error, your handler filter needs to do whatever to correct the problem because if you don't throw an error at the end of it then the transaction gets committed to the DB. _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:53 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** good question. I have not tested the error handling filters with a user generated error message, only with system error messages, but it should work give it shot. The error handling feature kicks in when the filter encounters an error. The documentation is not clear about whether it is a system error or a "user" error, so the only way to find out is testing it... Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am checking for it and then trying to raise that error to the user in a friendly way while stopping further processing. I know I can display a Message of type Error, but that is what I'm trying to avoid. If I "display" a Message of type Error and then define an error handler, will it keep that message from popping up? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling filter Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error messa
Re: Exit Guide Problem
Then that sounds like it probably won't do what I want, because I want processing to stop at that point. That was the point of adding the Exit Guide after I display the error message. That just doesn't seem to be working the way I thought it would... Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** Error handlers fire on ANY error condition, be it system or human. If you however generate an error handler for a user error, and don't display the error, your handler filter needs to do whatever to correct the problem because if you don't throw an error at the end of it then the transaction gets committed to the DB. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:53 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** good question. I have not tested the error handling filters with a user generated error message, only with system error messages, but it should work give it shot. The error handling feature kicks in when the filter encounters an error. The documentation is not clear about whether it is a system error or a "user" error, so the only way to find out is testing it... Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am checking for it and then trying to raise that error to the user in a friendly way while stopping further processing. I know I can display a Message of type Error, but that is what I'm trying to avoid. If I "display" a Message of type Error and then define an error handler, will it keep that message from popping up? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling filter Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button an
Re: Exit Guide Problem
If the error handling feature only works with system generated error messages, I would consider that a bug. As far as I can tell, the documentation does not specify that this feature is limited to system only error messages. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:53 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem good question. I have not tested the error handling filters with a user generated error message, only with system error messages, but it should work give it shot. The error handling feature kicks in when the filter encounters an error. The documentation is not clear about whether it is a system error or a "user" error, so the only way to find out is testing it... Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am checking for it and then trying to raise that error to the user in a friendly way while stopping further processing. I know I can display a Message of type Error, but that is what I'm trying to avoid. If I "display" a Message of type Error and then define an error handler, will it keep that message from popping up? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling filter Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting the Save Record guide properly. However, it still runs the rest of the Submit Record guide. Any ideas why it might be behaving this way? Thanks, Lyle Taylor NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are no
Re: Exit Guide Problem
Error handlers fire on ANY error condition, be it system or human. If you however generate an error handler for a user error, and don't display the error, your handler filter needs to do whatever to correct the problem because if you don't throw an error at the end of it then the transaction gets committed to the DB. _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:53 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** good question. I have not tested the error handling filters with a user generated error message, only with system error messages, but it should work give it shot. The error handling feature kicks in when the filter encounters an error. The documentation is not clear about whether it is a system error or a "user" error, so the only way to find out is testing it... Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am checking for it and then trying to raise that error to the user in a friendly way while stopping further processing. I know I can display a Message of type Error, but that is what I'm trying to avoid. If I "display" a Message of type Error and then define an error handler, will it keep that message from popping up? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling filter Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting the Save Record guide properly. However, it still runs the rest of the Submit Record guide. Any ideas why it might be behaving this way? Thanks, Lyle Taylor NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. I
Re: Exit Guide Problem
good question. I have not tested the error handling filters with a user generated error message, only with system error messages, but it should work give it shot. The error handling feature kicks in when the filter encounters an error. The documentation is not clear about whether it is a system error or a "user" error, so the only way to find out is testing it... Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 4:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am checking for it and then trying to raise that error to the user in a friendly way while stopping further processing. I know I can display a Message of type Error, but that is what I'm trying to avoid. If I "display" a Message of type Error and then define an error handler, will it keep that message from popping up? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling filter Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting the Save Record guide properly. However, it still runs the rest of the Submit Record guide. Any ideas why it might be behaving this way? Thanks, Lyle Taylor NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
Re: Exit Guide Problem
Would that work even with user-generated error messages, since I'm not trying to trap a system error? In this case, I've defined an error condition and am checking for it and then trying to raise that error to the user in a friendly way while stopping further processing. I know I can display a Message of type Error, but that is what I'm trying to avoid. If I "display" a Message of type Error and then define an error handler, will it keep that message from popping up? Thanks, Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:39 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Exit Guide Problem ** With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling filter Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting the Save Record guide properly. However, it still runs the rest of the Submit Record guide. Any ideas why it might be behaving this way? Thanks, Lyle Taylor NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Exit Guide Problem
With the 7.1 error handling feature you could trap the OOB error message and display your own user friendly error message. You'd use the $ERRNO$, ERRMSG$ and/or the $ERRAPPENDMSG$ keywords in the qualification of the error handling filter Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Lyle Taylor Sent: Mon 06/15/09 3:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Exit Guide Problem Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting the Save Record guide properly. However, it still runs the rest of the Submit Record guide. Any ideas why it might be behaving this way? Thanks, Lyle Taylor NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Exit Guide Problem
Hi all, ARS 7.1 I'm having what I think is an issue with some Active Link Guides and an Exit Guide action that isn't working the way I was expecting. The short of it is that I was trying to provide a more user friendly experience by displaying a custom dialog for errors encountered during data validation rather than popping up an OOB Error Message. The workflow is written so that if an error doesn't occur (i.e., workflow processing actually makes it to that point), then it assumes that everything's OK and does the rest of the actions. The problem I'm having is that I'm calling a couple guides from within another. In one of the nested guides, I have an Exist Guide action with "Exit All Guides" checked. My understanding of this was that at this point, all the guides in the "stack" would stop processing at that point. This doesn't appear to be happening, however. The two inner guides appear to stop at that point, but not the outer one. What I've got is something like this: ALG - Submit Record AL - Save Record AL - Disable Submit Button AL - Display Successful Submission Message The Save Record AL simply calls another Active Link Guide: ALG - Save Record AL - Check Required Fields AL - Push record to base form The Check Required Fields AL calls yet another Guide: ALG - Check Required Fields AL - Check Field 1 AL - Check Field 2 AL - Exit Guide (if none of the Check field actions encountered any issues, then this guide only will get exited) Label: Required Field Missing AL - Display Message Dialog with Error Info All the Check Field active links simply set the error message and then go to the label.The "Display Message Dialog with Error Info" opens the dialog with the error message and then has an Exit Guide action with Exit All Guides selected. This should cause it to exit the Save Record guide before saving the record as well as the Submit Record guide before disabling the button and displaying the success message. The problem is, it is only working part of the way. The record doesn't get saved, so it does appear to be exiting the Save Record guide properly. However, it still runs the rest of the Submit Record guide. Any ideas why it might be behaving this way? Thanks, Lyle Taylor NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
