Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
The way I understand workflow caching is that with Dev Cache Mode off user operations have a higher priority over admin operations. Admin changes will wait behind user activity for a "good" time to make the change/recache (not sure on the exact logic of finding a good time). With Dev Cache Mode on user operations are not given precedence over admin operations. This sounds consistent with what you are experiencing. Try turning off Dev Cache Mode and restarting the AR Server process. HTH, Jason On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:31 AM, 권민석 wrote: > ** > > Hi Michiel Beijen > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > This Server is on production. And Development Cache Mode is on. > > We are importing workflow objects Because of this hang problem. > > But Hang problem happens in that time too. > > > > I don’t know what is the solution. > > > > How is it in your case? > > > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Michiel Beijen > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:13 PM > > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > > > ** Hi 권민석, (long live cut & paste) > > After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects > causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory > and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a > significant amount of time. > > This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server that > is actually used for production purposes... ;-) > > If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache Mode > (look for it in the *Configuring* guide). This way, any connected users > will have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will > affect overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production > system to Development Cache Mode. > > Kind regards, > -- > Michiel Beijen > Software Consultant > +31 6 - 457 42 418 > Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 wrote: > > ** > > Hi Everybody! > > > > This issue happens to us in the same. > > But in our case, > > When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged So any user cannot > connect to the server. > > > > Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005 > > > > Is anyone having this case ? > > Is it happened after CMDB install? > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe DeSouza > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > > > ** > > Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before > saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as > filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so > as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it > is that you are saving. > > > > The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have > the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server > window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't > really matter if you have details enabled or not.. > > > > Joe > > > -- > > *From:* Frex Popo > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM > *Subject:* Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > ** > > Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-) > > > > I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I > have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a > VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :) > > > > --- En date de : *Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin * a > écrit : > > > De: Conny Martin > Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36 > > It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-( > > Kind Regards Conny > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org>] > Im Auftrag von David Morgan > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25 > An: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org> > Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long
AW: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
Hi,
the problem is the Development Cache Mode. Turn it off and you wouldn't see
these server hangs any more.
Kind Regards Conny
Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von Michiel Beijen
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2009 11:45
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
** I see - are you really sure that Development Cache Mode is on? You'd have to
restart the server after setting the checkbox in order for the setting to take
effect. But as I mentioned, you will be experiencing other kinds of performance
issues - maybe the one you mentioned - if you are running Development Cache
Mode on a production system. If you'd want to take my advice, to prevent
performance issues, please do not use this on a production environment.
In my experience, Development Cache Mode is a GREAT thing for test or
development servers with only a couple of users; but will be able to bring your
system to a grinding halt when large amounts of users are connected.
Also, I would strongly advice not import workflow objects on a live server
during business hours. Please use a downtime slot in your SLA for this and make
sure no users are connected to your server (for instance setting Admin-Only
mode and disconnecting all connected users). And, of course, make sure to
communicate your scheduled downtime to your users...
Kind regards,
--
Michiel Beijen
Software Consultant
+31 6 - 457 42 418
Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:31, 권민석 wrote:
**
Hi Michiel Beijen
Thanks for your help.
This Server is on production. And Development Cache Mode is on.
We are importing workflow objects Because of this hang problem.
But Hang problem happens in that time too.
I don’t know what is the solution.
How is it in your case?
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
** Hi 권민석, (long live cut & paste)
After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects
causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory
and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a
significant amount of time.
This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server
that is actually used for production purposes... ;-)
If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache
Mode (look for it in the Configuring guide). This way, any connected users will
have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will affect
overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production system to
Development Cache Mode.
Kind regards,
--
Michiel Beijen
Software Consultant
+31 6 - 457 42 418
Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 wrote:
**
Hi Everybody!
This issue happens to us in the same.
But in our case,
When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged So any user cannot
connect to the server.
Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch
005
Is anyone having this case ?
Is it happened after CMDB install?
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
**
Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that
before saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as
filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as
to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is
that you are saving.
The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you
have the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the
Server window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it
doesn't really matter if you have details enabled or not..
Joe
From: Frex Popo
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long
Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
I see - are you really sure that Development Cache Mode is on? You'd have to restart the server after setting the checkbox in order for the setting to take effect. But as I mentioned, you will be experiencing other kinds of performance issues - maybe the one you mentioned - if you are running Development Cache Mode on a production system. If you'd want to take my advice, to prevent performance issues, please do not use this on a production environment. In my experience, Development Cache Mode is a GREAT thing for test or development servers with only a couple of users; but will be able to bring your system to a grinding halt when large amounts of users are connected. Also, I would strongly advice not import workflow objects on a live server during business hours. Please use a downtime slot in your SLA for this and make sure no users are connected to your server (for instance setting Admin-Only mode and disconnecting all connected users). And, of course, make sure to communicate your scheduled downtime to your users... Kind regards, -- Michiel Beijen Software Consultant +31 6 - 457 42 418 Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:31, 권민석 wrote: > ** > > Hi Michiel Beijen > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > This Server is on production. And Development Cache Mode is on. > > We are importing workflow objects Because of this hang problem. > > But Hang problem happens in that time too. > > > > I don’t know what is the solution. > > > > How is it in your case? > > > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Michiel Beijen > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:13 PM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > > > ** Hi 권민석, (long live cut & paste) > > > After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects > causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory > and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a > significant amount of time. > > This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server that > is actually used for production purposes... ;-) > > If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache Mode > (look for it in the *Configuring* guide). This way, any connected users > will have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will > affect overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production > system to Development Cache Mode. > > Kind regards, > -- > Michiel Beijen > Software Consultant > +31 6 - 457 42 418 > Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 wrote: > > ** > > Hi Everybody! > > > > This issue happens to us in the same. > > But in our case, > > When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged So any user cannot > connect to the server. > > > > Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005 > > > > Is anyone having this case ? > > Is it happened after CMDB install? > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe DeSouza > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > > > ** > > Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before > saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as > filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so > as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it > is that you are saving. > > > > The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have > the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server > window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't > really matter if you have details enabled or not.. > > > > Joe > > > -- > > *From:* Frex Popo > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM > *Subject:* Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > ** > > Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-) > > > > I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I > have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a > VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :) > > > > --- En date de : *Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin * a > écrit : > > > De: Conny Martin > Objet: AW: RESO
Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
Hi Michiel Beijen Thanks for your help. This Server is on production. And Development Cache Mode is on. We are importing workflow objects Because of this hang problem. But Hang problem happens in that time too. I don’t know what is the solution. How is it in your case? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link ** Hi 권민석, (long live cut & paste) After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a significant amount of time. This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server that is actually used for production purposes... ;-) If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache Mode (look for it in the Configuring guide). This way, any connected users will have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will affect overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production system to Development Cache Mode. Kind regards, -- Michiel Beijen Software Consultant +31 6 - 457 42 418 Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 wrote: ** Hi Everybody! This issue happens to us in the same. But in our case, When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged So any user cannot connect to the server. Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005 Is anyone having this case ? Is it happened after CMDB install? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link ** Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is that you are saving. The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't really matter if you have details enabled or not.. Joe _ From: Frex Popo To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link ** Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-) I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :) --- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin a écrit : De: Conny Martin Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36 It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-( Kind Regards Conny -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org> ] Im Auftrag von David Morgan Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25 An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org> Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched off for speed :-) _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
Hi 권민석, (long live cut & paste) After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a significant amount of time. This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server that is actually used for production purposes... ;-) If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache Mode (look for it in the *Configuring* guide). This way, any connected users will have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will affect overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production system to Development Cache Mode. Kind regards, -- Michiel Beijen Software Consultant +31 6 - 457 42 418 Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 wrote: > ** > > Hi Everybody! > > > > This issue happens to us in the same. > > But in our case, > > When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged So any user cannot > connect to the server. > > > > Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005 > > > > Is anyone having this case ? > > Is it happened after CMDB install? > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe DeSouza > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > > > ** > > Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before > saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as > filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so > as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it > is that you are saving. > > > > The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have > the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server > window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't > really matter if you have details enabled or not.. > > > > Joe > > > ------ > > *From:* Frex Popo > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM > *Subject:* Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > ** > > Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-) > > > > I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I > have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a > VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :) > > > > --- En date de : *Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin * a > écrit : > > > De: Conny Martin > Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36 > > It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-( > > Kind Regards Conny > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org>] > Im Auftrag von David Morgan > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25 > An: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org> > Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link > > No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the > 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch > > It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically > I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool > switched off for speed :-) > > > > _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are"_ > _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are"_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
thanks Joe for the additional info. --- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Joe DeSouza a écrit : De: Joe DeSouza Objet: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 18h27 ** Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is that you are saving. The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't really matter if you have details enabled or not.. Joe From: Frex Popo To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link ** Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-) I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :) --- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin a écrit : De: Conny Martin Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36 It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-( Kind Regards Conny -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von David Morgan Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25 An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched off for speed :-) _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
Hi Everybody! This issue happens to us in the same. But in our case, When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged So any user cannot connect to the server. Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005 Is anyone having this case ? Is it happened after CMDB install? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link ** Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is that you are saving. The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't really matter if you have details enabled or not.. Joe _ From: Frex Popo To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link ** Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-) I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :) --- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin a écrit : De: Conny Martin Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36 It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-( Kind Regards Conny -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org> ] Im Auftrag von David Morgan Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25 An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org> Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched off for speed :-) _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is that you are saving. The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't really matter if you have details enabled or not.. Joe From: Frex Popo To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link ** Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-) I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :) --- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin a écrit : De: Conny Martin Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36 It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-( Kind Regards Conny -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von David Morgan Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25 An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched off for speed :-) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-) I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :) --- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin a écrit : De: Conny Martin Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36 It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-( Kind Regards Conny -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von David Morgan Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25 An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched off for speed :-) Cheers Dave Morgan -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso Sent: 09 June 2009 12:12 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link --0016e6d999da2bc1e0046be86f9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do have details turned on looking at active links without it is sort of useless :) But that did fix the problem. Without details active links save much faster. Thankx! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM, David Morgan wrote: > Hi Frank > > I think this is a known issue - and I'll bet you have the Details view > switched on in the Admin tool > > Switch off details view and try to save an active link/filter/form etc. > > Regards > Dave Morgan > > David Morgan > Senior Technical Consultant > > Tiberone Technologies Limited > Golden Cross House > 8 Duncannon Street > London WC2N 4JF > Ph: +44 (0) 207 484 5069 > Fax: +44 (0) 870 8310 381 > Mob: +44 (0) 7876 450102 > www.tiberone.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso > Sent: 09 June 2009 11:46 > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Long Time Saving Active Link > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ARS 7.1 p5 > SQL Server 2005 > Windows 2003 > > Has anyone else noticed an issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time to > create and modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last > environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop. > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netARSl ist: "Where the Answers Are" > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > ** > ARS 7.1 p5 SQL Server 2005 > Windows 2003 =A0 Has anyone else noticed an > issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time > t= > o create and=A0modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last > = > environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop. > > _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are"_ > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3-- > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netARSl ist: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" --0016e6d999da2bc1e0046be86f9b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** I do have details turned on looking at active li= nks without it is sort of useless=A0 :) =A0 But that did fix the problem. Without details active links save much f= aster. =A0 Thankx! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM, David Morgan <mailto:dave.mor...@tiberone.com";>dave.mor...@= tiberone.com> wrote: Hi FrankI think this is = a known issue - and I'll bet you have the Details view switched on in t= he Admin tool Switch off details view and try to save an active link/filter/form etc.= RegardsDave MorganDavid MorganSenior Technical Cons= ultant=A0Tiberone Technologies LimitedGolden C
AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-( Kind Regards Conny -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von David Morgan Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25 An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched off for speed :-) Cheers Dave Morgan -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso Sent: 09 June 2009 12:12 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link --0016e6d999da2bc1e0046be86f9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do have details turned on looking at active links without it is sort of useless :) But that did fix the problem. Without details active links save much faster. Thankx! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM, David Morgan wrote: > Hi Frank > > I think this is a known issue - and I'll bet you have the Details view > switched on in the Admin tool > > Switch off details view and try to save an active link/filter/form etc. > > Regards > Dave Morgan > > David Morgan > Senior Technical Consultant > > Tiberone Technologies Limited > Golden Cross House > 8 Duncannon Street > London WC2N 4JF > Ph: +44 (0) 207 484 5069 > Fax: +44 (0) 870 8310 381 > Mob: +44 (0) 7876 450102 > www.tiberone.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso > Sent: 09 June 2009 11:46 > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Long Time Saving Active Link > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ARS 7.1 p5 > SQL Server 2005 > Windows 2003 > > Has anyone else noticed an issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time to > create and modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last > environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop. > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netARSl ist: "Where the Answers Are" > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > ** > ARS 7.1 p5 SQL Server 2005 > Windows 2003 =A0 Has anyone else noticed an > issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time > t= > o create and=A0modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last > = > environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop. > > _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are"_ > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3-- > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netARSl ist: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" --0016e6d999da2bc1e0046be86f9b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** I do have details turned on looking at active li= nks without it is sort of useless=A0 :) =A0 But that did fix the problem. Without details active links save much f= aster. =A0 Thankx! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM, David Morgan <mailto:dave.mor...@tiberone.com";>dave.mor...@= tiberone.com> wrote: Hi FrankI think this is = a known issue - and I'll bet you have the Details view switched on in t= he Admin tool Switch off details view and try to save an active link/filter/form etc.= RegardsDave MorganDavid MorganSenior Technical Cons= ultant=A0Tiberone Technologies LimitedGolden Cross House8 D= uncannon Street London WC2N 4JFPh: +44 (0) 207 484 5069Fax: +44 (0) 870 8310 381Mob: +44 (0) 7876 450102http://www.tiberone.com/"; target=3D= "_blank">www.tiberone.com -Original Message-From: Action Re= quest System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:arsl...@ars= LIST.ORG">arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frank CarusoSent: 09 Ju= ne 2009 11:46 To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG";&
Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched off for speed :-) Cheers Dave Morgan -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso Sent: 09 June 2009 12:12 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link --0016e6d999da2bc1e0046be86f9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do have details turned on looking at active links without it is sort of useless :) But that did fix the problem. Without details active links save much faster. Thankx! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM, David Morgan wrote: > Hi Frank > > I think this is a known issue - and I'll bet you have the Details view > switched on in the Admin tool > > Switch off details view and try to save an active link/filter/form etc. > > Regards > Dave Morgan > > David Morgan > Senior Technical Consultant > > Tiberone Technologies Limited > Golden Cross House > 8 Duncannon Street > London WC2N 4JF > Ph: +44 (0) 207 484 5069 > Fax: +44 (0) 870 8310 381 > Mob: +44 (0) 7876 450102 > www.tiberone.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso > Sent: 09 June 2009 11:46 > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Long Time Saving Active Link > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ARS 7.1 p5 > SQL Server 2005 > Windows 2003 > > Has anyone else noticed an issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time to > create and modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last > environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop. > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netARSl ist: "Where the Answers Are" > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > ** > ARS 7.1 p5 > SQL Server 2005 > Windows 2003 > =A0 > Has anyone else noticed an issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time > t= > o create and=A0modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last > = > environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop. > > _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are"_ > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3-- > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netARSl ist: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" --0016e6d999da2bc1e0046be86f9b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** I do have details turned on looking at active li= nks without it is sort of useless=A0 :) =A0 But that did fix the problem. Without details active links save much f= aster. =A0 Thankx! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM, David Morgan <mailto:dave.mor...@tiberone.com";>dave.mor...@= tiberone.com> wrote: Hi FrankI think this is = a known issue - and I'll bet you have the Details view switched on in t= he Admin tool Switch off details view and try to save an active link/filter/form etc.= RegardsDave MorganDavid MorganSenior Technical Cons= ultant=A0Tiberone Technologies LimitedGolden Cross House8 D= uncannon Street London WC2N 4JFPh: +44 (0) 207 484 5069Fax: +44 (0) 870 8310 381Mob: +44 (0) 7876 450102http://www.tiberone.com/"; target=3D= "_blank">www.tiberone.com -Original Message-From: Action Re= quest System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:arsl...@ars= LIST.ORG">arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Frank CarusoSent: 09 Ju= ne 2009 11:46 To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG";>arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubje= ct: Long Time Saving Active Link--001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3C= ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding:= 7bit ARS 7.1 p5SQL Server 2005Windows 2003Has anyone else no= ticed an issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time tocreate and modify = active links. I thought it was an issue with my las
RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
I do have details turned on looking at active links without it is sort of useless :) But that did fix the problem. Without details active links save much faster. Thankx! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM, David Morgan wrote: > Hi Frank > > I think this is a known issue - and I'll bet you have the Details view > switched on in the Admin tool > > Switch off details view and try to save an active link/filter/form etc. > > Regards > Dave Morgan > > David Morgan > Senior Technical Consultant > > Tiberone Technologies Limited > Golden Cross House > 8 Duncannon Street > London WC2N 4JF > Ph: +44 (0) 207 484 5069 > Fax: +44 (0) 870 8310 381 > Mob: +44 (0) 7876 450102 > www.tiberone.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso > Sent: 09 June 2009 11:46 > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Long Time Saving Active Link > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ARS 7.1 p5 > SQL Server 2005 > Windows 2003 > > Has anyone else noticed an issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time to > create and modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last > environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop. > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum > Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netARSlist: > "Where the Answers Are" > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > ** > ARS 7.1 p5 > SQL Server 2005 > Windows 2003 > =A0 > Has anyone else noticed an issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time > t= > o create and=A0modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last > = > environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop. > > _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are"_ > > --001636c5ad4dd05241046be810c3-- > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum > Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.netARSlist: > "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
