Re: How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.

2011-05-31 Thread Ron Tavares
All,

Thanks for your feedback.  I will be reviewing these with the team and will
keep you posted with what I move forward with.  We may just go with the
simple label solution.

Thanks again,
.ron

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Brian Bishop 
brian.bis...@goldstag.demon.co.uk wrote:

 **

 Hi Ron,



 This has been an issue right from the beginning and the best way to solve
 it is as Andrew suggested. However if this is not acceptable you could do
 the following.



 Copy the date/time into a character field before it is saved to the server
 and then the server won’t touch it and put that into your email instead.



 *Brian Bishop*

 * *

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Ron Tavares
 *Sent:* 26 May 2011 16:06

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.



 **

 Good Morning,



 When recipients receive email notifications with date fields on them,
 (example Change Request start time), the time is displayed in the email
 server time rather than the user's local time.  I guess this makes sense
 since the email server has no way of knowing what time zone the recipients
 are in.  Nevertheless, looks like BMC has a bug for this, (SW00257640).



 I'm sure many of you have come across this complaint before.  Is there a
 clever way of dealing with this?



 ARS 7.1

 Windows OS



 Thanks,

 .ron





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Re: How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.

2011-05-26 Thread Andrew C Goodall
At the very least, if BMC or ARlisters don't have another solution for
you - I would add the timezone identifier after the date field in the
email template so they know.

 

e.g. #Create Date# CT

 

Regards,

 

Andrew Goodall

Software Engineer 2 | Development Services |  jcpenney . www.jcp.com
http://www.jcp.com/  



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Subject: How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.

 

** 

Good Morning,

 

When recipients receive email notifications with date fields on them,
(example Change Request start time), the time is displayed in the email
server time rather than the user's local time.  I guess this makes sense
since the email server has no way of knowing what time zone the
recipients are in.  Nevertheless, looks like BMC has a bug for this,
(SW00257640).

 

I'm sure many of you have come across this complaint before.  Is there a
clever way of dealing with this?

 

ARS 7.1

Windows OS

 

Thanks,

.ron

 

 

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Re: How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.

2011-05-26 Thread Ron Tavares
Thanks Andrew,

That is the current plan that is on the table.  But some users are not happy
with it.



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Andrew C Goodall ago...@jcpenney.comwrote:

 **

 At the very least, if BMC or ARlisters don’t have another solution for you
 - I would add the timezone identifier after the date field in the email
 template so they know.



 e.g. #Create Date# CT



 Regards,



 *Andrew Goodall*

 Software Engineer 2 | Development Services |  jcpenney . www.jcp.com 
 http://www.jcp.com/
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 *Subject:* How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.



 **

 Good Morning,



 When recipients receive email notifications with date fields on them,
 (example Change Request start time), the time is displayed in the email
 server time rather than the user's local time.  I guess this makes sense
 since the email server has no way of knowing what time zone the recipients
 are in.  Nevertheless, looks like BMC has a bug for this, (SW00257640).



 I'm sure many of you have come across this complaint before.  Is there a
 clever way of dealing with this?



 ARS 7.1

 Windows OS



 Thanks,

 .ron





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Re: How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.

2011-05-26 Thread Pierson, Shawn
If you're going to do a customization, and don't mind more effort, you could do 
a lookup on CTM:People to look for the site of the person to be emailed (I 
assume you would have their People ID, or at minimum you could match based on 
email address), which then you can match their location to the SIT:Site form 
which has a Time Zone field that would help you make that calculation (if you 
have populated that field.)  Then you would have to customize your emails to 
show this new localized Scheduled Start Date, etc. to be sent instead of the 
real Scheduled Start Date.

Of course, this doesn't solve everything.  You could have people who travel, so 
their location's time zone will be wrong often.  You also have to worry about 
daylight savings time, as different areas use it at different times, and you'd 
need to be able to calculate for that if the email is sent before the change 
would occur.  My suggestion may easily fall into the 85/15 percent rule where 
you solve the problem for 85% of the people, but you'd have to figure out if 
the 15% that you make it worse for would cause too much impact to the business. 
 Personally I like Andrew's suggestion, and if necessary you can tell the users 
that it is a temporary fix while you figure out all the rules that you would 
have to build into workflow to do a suggestion like mine.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union

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Subject: How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.

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Good Morning,

When recipients receive email notifications with date fields on them, (example 
Change Request start time), the time is displayed in the email server time 
rather than the user's local time.  I guess this makes sense since the email 
server has no way of knowing what time zone the recipients are in.  
Nevertheless, looks like BMC has a bug for this, (SW00257640).

I'm sure many of you have come across this complaint before.  Is there a clever 
way of dealing with this?

ARS 7.1
Windows OS

Thanks,
.ron


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Re: How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.

2011-05-26 Thread Brian Bishop
Hi Ron,

 

This has been an issue right from the beginning and the best way to solve it
is as Andrew suggested. However if this is not acceptable you could do the
following.

 

Copy the date/time into a character field before it is saved to the server
and then the server won't touch it and put that into your email instead.

 

Brian Bishop

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ron Tavares
Sent: 26 May 2011 16:06
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: How can we display date feilds in emails in local time.

 

** 

Good Morning,

 

When recipients receive email notifications with date fields on them,
(example Change Request start time), the time is displayed in the email
server time rather than the user's local time.  I guess this makes sense
since the email server has no way of knowing what time zone the recipients
are in.  Nevertheless, looks like BMC has a bug for this, (SW00257640).

 

I'm sure many of you have come across this complaint before.  Is there a
clever way of dealing with this?

 

ARS 7.1

Windows OS

 

Thanks,

.ron

 

 

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