Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-24 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Robert:
I started a design and it's along the lines of your suggestion. 

I will have a server side code that's invoked with two parameters thru a
simple URL. This code will take these parameters and then work as a Web
Service client...and consume a ARS Web Service, passing the parameters to
ARS.

I will let you guys know how it turns out.

The amount of ARS code is not much. Figuring out where to put the code was a
challenge.

About blackberry simulator mentioned earlier, I downloaded it but haven't
been able to get it to work. I didn't spend much time trying, but it doesn't
look like a install-and-use kind of stuff. Probably an overkill for me to
get it to work, but it's an interesting application.



Robert Halstead wrote:
 
 Rabi,
 
 Very sorry for the late reply.. So many emails from the ARS list sometimes
 I
 just skim over them because I'm up to my neck in work.
 
 Any device can look at a PHP web page as all that is outputted from the
 server is HTML.  PHP is only ran on the server.  Now, I haven't used
 websphere before but if they can support php you should be able to write a
 test page to display on ANY mobile device not just the blackberry.  I
 don't
 own a blackberry either (user of the palm treo) but essentially all you
 need
 to do would pass the parameters for the php script in the url.  The php
 script would then use Remedy's web services to update the record.  This
 way
 you don't need to worry about compatibility on the client's device so long
 as they can run a web browser.  Doesn't even need to be a full browser.
 That's the beauty of PHP, the web server itself handles the connection to
 Remedy, all the user needs to do is push the button on some web page or
 just
 have the php script run automatically when the page is hit by the browser.
 
 On Jan 4, 2008 11:30 AM, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 ps:
 I am now thinking of a URL that invokes a web services client. Then I can
 have two links passing the ticket id as well as yes or no parameter to
 the
 client and the client will consume ARS web service. Some kind of server
 side
 code...such as Java Servlet or .Net (or perhaps php).

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:40 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?
 
  All:
  I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from
 ARS,
  from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
  Yes/No
  answer back to ARS.
 
  Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text
 or
  some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
  response...
  ...but is there a better way?
 
 

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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-20 Thread Robert Halstead
Rabi,

Very sorry for the late reply.. So many emails from the ARS list sometimes I
just skim over them because I'm up to my neck in work.

Any device can look at a PHP web page as all that is outputted from the
server is HTML.  PHP is only ran on the server.  Now, I haven't used
websphere before but if they can support php you should be able to write a
test page to display on ANY mobile device not just the blackberry.  I don't
own a blackberry either (user of the palm treo) but essentially all you need
to do would pass the parameters for the php script in the url.  The php
script would then use Remedy's web services to update the record.  This way
you don't need to worry about compatibility on the client's device so long
as they can run a web browser.  Doesn't even need to be a full browser.
That's the beauty of PHP, the web server itself handles the connection to
Remedy, all the user needs to do is push the button on some web page or just
have the php script run automatically when the page is hit by the browser.

On Jan 4, 2008 11:30 AM, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rick:
 My understanding is that web access is not supported in the BB environment
 here, else I wouldn't be in this quandary. However, I will re-doublecheck,
 if that's a word. I wasn't sure that this is even a question...because I
 wasn't sure that BB environments would so differently in different places.
 I'm clueless about BBs, as I said earlier.

 About other interfaces...I will research, but do you have any names handy?

 Sandra:
 I am aware of the email option, as I wrote in the post. I am looking at
 better, more foolproof alternatives.

 Robert:
 About using PHP...I am not clear how can I have a BB user invoke php code
 (or any other code) via an email received in BB. Can you elaborate?

 Joe:
 Thanks for the tip. Kinetic Survey...anyone?

 Or any other gizmo anybody wants to plug in here?

 
 ps:
 I am now thinking of a URL that invokes a web services client. Then I can
 have two links passing the ticket id as well as yes or no parameter to the
 client and the client will consume ARS web service. Some kind of server
 side
 code...such as Java Servlet or .Net (or perhaps php).






 Rick Cook-3 wrote:
 
  If your BB environment is set up to use web access, I would recommend
  constructing a truncated view of the approval screen, and send them
 that.
  If not, perhaps if your emails asking for approval had three URLs
 embedded
  in them - one for Yes, one for No, and perhaps one for Need more Info,
  those
  could map to separate email Inboxes that would route the approvals that
  way.
 
  Or, you could use one of the several very good interfaces between Remedy
  and
  BB devices, and display Remedy screens on them that way.
 
  Lots of ways to skin this cat.
 
  Rick
 
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  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:40 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?
 
  All:
  I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
  from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
  Yes/No
  answer back to ARS.
 
  Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text
 or
  some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
  response...
  ...but is there a better way?
 
  It has been suggested that I can use a Web Service to accomplish this,
 but
  I
  just don't see how I can have blackberry users consume a ARS Web
 Service,
  and have that consumption be available in/thru that email.
 
  I could have a simple URL in the email that takes them to a simple
 Remedy
  form with yes/no buttons, but I am guessing a Mid-tier generated Remedy
  form
  isn't visible, functional in blackberry. I have never been sophisticated
  enough to use/own a blackberry, but I'm pretty sure remedy screens won't
  show properly.
 
  Somebody shout me down, if this is not true, or if there is a
 workaround.
 
  So what has been suggested is provide two URLS in the email,
 corresponding
  to Yes and No responses. Again, I don't see what kind of URLs I can
  construct to communicate yes and no responses back to ARS. I certainly
  don't
  see any kind of URL directly consuming any Web Service I might write in
  ARS.
 
  Is my analysis so far reasonable? Do you guys know of any good way to
 send
  yes/no to ARS from blackberry? A quick google serach shows stuff like
  NetBeans allowing code to consume Web Services from blackberries, but I
  don't know enough to even conceive of a way that could be used in my
  situation.
 
 
  Ok, I do have some half baked ideas that may or may not work. If I
  construct
  a mid-tier URL that queries a form, called say Yes Response Form with
 a
  certain record ID (and possibly a security key as well), and write a
 Get
  filter on that form to look for the combination of 

Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-04 Thread Robert Halstead
bah, I meant to say php pages access our Remedy not java servlets.  Java is
still new to us as we have just started to fully use it.

On Jan 4, 2008 9:54 AM, Robert Halstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem with the mid-tier and mobile devices that I've experienced is
 that most mobile devices won't support the java on the web page fully.  This
 is because of the browser on most mobile devices.  Instead of creating the
 page through Remedy, I would either stick with the e-mail option (since that
 is what blackberry's are most used for) or create a php page (not through
 Remedy) that has your two buttons and have php call Remedy through the
 Remedy web service.  The page could still take your unique value since you
 would be able to build the url manually in Remedy when it sends the e-mail
 to the user and then pull additional values if you need to display on the
 web page itself.  Most mobile web browsers have no problem with php.

 Of course, you don't have to go with php, any server side code will work.
 We have java servlets access our Remedy through web services even though we
 could probably have them use the api.

 Just my two cents.


 On Jan 4, 2008 9:39 AM, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  All:
  I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
  from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
  Yes/No
  answer back to ARS.
 
  Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text
  or
  some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
  response...
  ...but is there a better way?
 
  It has been suggested that I can use a Web Service to accomplish this,
  but I
  just don't see how I can have blackberry users consume a ARS Web
  Service,
  and have that consumption be available in/thru that email.
 
  I could have a simple URL in the email that takes them to a simple
  Remedy
  form with yes/no buttons, but I am guessing a Mid-tier generated Remedy
  form
  isn't visible, functional in blackberry. I have never been sophisticated
  enough to use/own a blackberry, but I'm pretty sure remedy screens won't
  show properly.
 
  Somebody shout me down, if this is not true, or if there is a
  workaround.
 
  So what has been suggested is provide two URLS in the email,
  corresponding
  to Yes and No responses. Again, I don't see what kind of URLs I can
  construct to communicate yes and no responses back to ARS. I certainly
  don't
  see any kind of URL directly consuming any Web Service I might write in
  ARS.
 
  Is my analysis so far reasonable? Do you guys know of any good way to
  send
  yes/no to ARS from blackberry? A quick google serach shows stuff like
  NetBeans allowing code to consume Web Services from blackberries, but I
  don't know enough to even conceive of a way that could be used in my
  situation.
 
 
  Ok, I do have some half baked ideas that may or may not work. If I
  construct
  a mid-tier URL that queries a form, called say Yes Response Form with
  a
  certain record ID (and possibly a security key as well), and write a
  Get
  filter on that form to look for the combination of the record ID and the
 
  security key and on match interprete that as a Yes response, then
  although
  the query result may not show correctly on blackberry, on the server
  side,
  the response will have been processed.  Worth trying?
 
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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-04 Thread Robert Halstead
The problem with the mid-tier and mobile devices that I've experienced is
that most mobile devices won't support the java on the web page fully.  This
is because of the browser on most mobile devices.  Instead of creating the
page through Remedy, I would either stick with the e-mail option (since that
is what blackberry's are most used for) or create a php page (not through
Remedy) that has your two buttons and have php call Remedy through the
Remedy web service.  The page could still take your unique value since you
would be able to build the url manually in Remedy when it sends the e-mail
to the user and then pull additional values if you need to display on the
web page itself.  Most mobile web browsers have no problem with php.

Of course, you don't have to go with php, any server side code will work.
We have java servlets access our Remedy through web services even though we
could probably have them use the api.

Just my two cents.

On Jan 4, 2008 9:39 AM, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All:
 I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
 from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
 Yes/No
 answer back to ARS.

 Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text or
 some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
 response...
 ...but is there a better way?

 It has been suggested that I can use a Web Service to accomplish this, but
 I
 just don't see how I can have blackberry users consume a ARS Web Service,
 and have that consumption be available in/thru that email.

 I could have a simple URL in the email that takes them to a simple Remedy
 form with yes/no buttons, but I am guessing a Mid-tier generated Remedy
 form
 isn't visible, functional in blackberry. I have never been sophisticated
 enough to use/own a blackberry, but I'm pretty sure remedy screens won't
 show properly.

 Somebody shout me down, if this is not true, or if there is a workaround.

 So what has been suggested is provide two URLS in the email, corresponding
 to Yes and No responses. Again, I don't see what kind of URLs I can
 construct to communicate yes and no responses back to ARS. I certainly
 don't
 see any kind of URL directly consuming any Web Service I might write in
 ARS.

 Is my analysis so far reasonable? Do you guys know of any good way to send
 yes/no to ARS from blackberry? A quick google serach shows stuff like
 NetBeans allowing code to consume Web Services from blackberries, but I
 don't know enough to even conceive of a way that could be used in my
 situation.


 Ok, I do have some half baked ideas that may or may not work. If I
 construct
 a mid-tier URL that queries a form, called say Yes Response Form with a
 certain record ID (and possibly a security key as well), and write a Get
 filter on that form to look for the combination of the record ID and the
 security key and on match interprete that as a Yes response, then
 although
 the query result may not show correctly on blackberry, on the server side,
 the response will have been processed.  Worth trying?

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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry? (U)

2008-01-04 Thread Hennigan, Sandra H CTR OSD-CIO
UNCLASSIFIED

It depends on your goal, on what you want the Yes/No response to do. 

Remedy doesn't care whether the email is sent from a PC or Blackberry
mailbox so you could use the functionality of the AREmail Engine and
create workflow using incoming messages.
The workflow can be dependent on keywords typed to the subject line when
replying to an email.


Sandra Hennigan

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?


All:
I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
Yes/No answer back to ARS.

Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text
or some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
response... ...but is there a better way?

It has been suggested that I can use a Web Service to accomplish this,
but I just don't see how I can have blackberry users consume a ARS Web
Service, and have that consumption be available in/thru that email.

I could have a simple URL in the email that takes them to a simple
Remedy form with yes/no buttons, but I am guessing a Mid-tier generated
Remedy form isn't visible, functional in blackberry. I have never been
sophisticated enough to use/own a blackberry, but I'm pretty sure remedy
screens won't show properly. 

Somebody shout me down, if this is not true, or if there is a
workaround.

So what has been suggested is provide two URLS in the email,
corresponding to Yes and No responses. Again, I don't see what kind of
URLs I can construct to communicate yes and no responses back to ARS. I
certainly don't see any kind of URL directly consuming any Web Service I
might write in ARS.

Is my analysis so far reasonable? Do you guys know of any good way to
send yes/no to ARS from blackberry? A quick google serach shows stuff
like NetBeans allowing code to consume Web Services from blackberries,
but I don't know enough to even conceive of a way that could be used in
my situation.


Ok, I do have some half baked ideas that may or may not work. If I
construct a mid-tier URL that queries a form, called say Yes Response
Form with a certain record ID (and possibly a security key as well),
and write a Get filter on that form to look for the combination of the
record ID and the security key and on match interprete that as a Yes
response, then although the query result may not show correctly on
blackberry, on the server side, the response will have been processed.
Worth trying?

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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-04 Thread Rick Cook
If your BB environment is set up to use web access, I would recommend
constructing a truncated view of the approval screen, and send them that.
If not, perhaps if your emails asking for approval had three URLs embedded
in them - one for Yes, one for No, and perhaps one for Need more Info, those
could map to separate email Inboxes that would route the approvals that way.

Or, you could use one of the several very good interfaces between Remedy and
BB devices, and display Remedy screens on them that way.

Lots of ways to skin this cat.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

All:
I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a Yes/No
answer back to ARS.

Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text or
some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
response...
...but is there a better way?

It has been suggested that I can use a Web Service to accomplish this, but I
just don't see how I can have blackberry users consume a ARS Web Service,
and have that consumption be available in/thru that email.

I could have a simple URL in the email that takes them to a simple Remedy
form with yes/no buttons, but I am guessing a Mid-tier generated Remedy form
isn't visible, functional in blackberry. I have never been sophisticated
enough to use/own a blackberry, but I'm pretty sure remedy screens won't
show properly. 

Somebody shout me down, if this is not true, or if there is a workaround.

So what has been suggested is provide two URLS in the email, corresponding
to Yes and No responses. Again, I don't see what kind of URLs I can
construct to communicate yes and no responses back to ARS. I certainly don't
see any kind of URL directly consuming any Web Service I might write in ARS.

Is my analysis so far reasonable? Do you guys know of any good way to send
yes/no to ARS from blackberry? A quick google serach shows stuff like
NetBeans allowing code to consume Web Services from blackberries, but I
don't know enough to even conceive of a way that could be used in my
situation.


Ok, I do have some half baked ideas that may or may not work. If I construct
a mid-tier URL that queries a form, called say Yes Response Form with a
certain record ID (and possibly a security key as well), and write a Get
filter on that form to look for the combination of the record ID and the
security key and on match interprete that as a Yes response, then although
the query result may not show correctly on blackberry, on the server side,
the response will have been processed.  Worth trying?

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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry? (U)

2008-01-04 Thread Joe D'Souza
Rabi,

If you want an OTB solution, I think Kinetic Survey may have something for
you. I'm pretty sure one of the features of Kinetic Survey was to send a
email with embedded method of replying to a survey which could be a Yes/No
kind of a survey you want to send. I remember seeing a demo on this product
and vaguely remember it has this feature to send responses through embedded
buttons or radio buttons on emails..

Maybe John David Sundberg or someone from Kinetic Data
http://www.kineticdata.com could verify that for you..

Joe

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
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UNCLASSIFIED

It depends on your goal, on what you want the Yes/No response to do.

Remedy doesn't care whether the email is sent from a PC or Blackberry
mailbox so you could use the functionality of the AREmail Engine and
create workflow using incoming messages.
The workflow can be dependent on keywords typed to the subject line when
replying to an email.


Sandra Hennigan

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?


All:
I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
Yes/No answer back to ARS.

Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text
or some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
response... ...but is there a better way?

It has been suggested that I can use a Web Service to accomplish this,
but I just don't see how I can have blackberry users consume a ARS Web
Service, and have that consumption be available in/thru that email.

I could have a simple URL in the email that takes them to a simple
Remedy form with yes/no buttons, but I am guessing a Mid-tier generated
Remedy form isn't visible, functional in blackberry. I have never been
sophisticated enough to use/own a blackberry, but I'm pretty sure remedy
screens won't show properly.

Somebody shout me down, if this is not true, or if there is a
workaround.

So what has been suggested is provide two URLS in the email,
corresponding to Yes and No responses. Again, I don't see what kind of
URLs I can construct to communicate yes and no responses back to ARS. I
certainly don't see any kind of URL directly consuming any Web Service I
might write in ARS.

Is my analysis so far reasonable? Do you guys know of any good way to
send yes/no to ARS from blackberry? A quick google serach shows stuff
like NetBeans allowing code to consume Web Services from blackberries,
but I don't know enough to even conceive of a way that could be used in
my situation.


Ok, I do have some half baked ideas that may or may not work. If I
construct a mid-tier URL that queries a form, called say Yes Response
Form with a certain record ID (and possibly a security key as well),
and write a Get filter on that form to look for the combination of the
record ID and the security key and on match interprete that as a Yes
response, then although the query result may not show correctly on
blackberry, on the server side, the response will have been processed.
Worth trying?
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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-04 Thread Heider, Stephen
Rabi,

The way I did it here was to create a web app.  This assumes that your
BlackBerry can access a web app, which in turn can access your ARS
system. 

When the email is created in Remedy workflow inserts a hidden URL into
the top of the email.  The URL is not visible in Outlook (our email
client) but appears when viewing on a BlackBerry.  The user clicks this
link which starts the web app.  The URL will include at least one
parameter that links back to a ticket or record.  

Although not required, I use a GUID in the URL and each email recipient
gets a different GUID (even if the email is being sent to a group).  I
have a form that keeps track of the GUIDs with the Request Ids and a
expiration date.  After a certain amount of time (1 week) the link is no
longer valid.

I use ASP.Net and the ARS .Net API to retrieve ticket details and
display to the user.  The user can then update the work log, reassign
the ticket, and/or change the status.  

A button is available for them to Submit their changes to the ticket.
When clicked the web app updates the ticket in Remedy.  

For just a Yes/No response you could have two buttons, labeled Yes and
No.

If you want to ensure that only the recipient of the email can update
the ticket you could add a password field to the web app, which the user
would enter.  The web app would validate the password before updating
ARS.

HTH

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

All:
I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
Yes/No
answer back to ARS.

Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text
or
some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
response...
...but is there a better way?

It has been suggested that I can use a Web Service to accomplish this,
but I
just don't see how I can have blackberry users consume a ARS Web
Service,
and have that consumption be available in/thru that email.

I could have a simple URL in the email that takes them to a simple
Remedy
form with yes/no buttons, but I am guessing a Mid-tier generated Remedy
form
isn't visible, functional in blackberry. I have never been sophisticated
enough to use/own a blackberry, but I'm pretty sure remedy screens won't
show properly. 

Somebody shout me down, if this is not true, or if there is a
workaround.

So what has been suggested is provide two URLS in the email,
corresponding
to Yes and No responses. Again, I don't see what kind of URLs I can
construct to communicate yes and no responses back to ARS. I certainly
don't
see any kind of URL directly consuming any Web Service I might write in
ARS.

Is my analysis so far reasonable? Do you guys know of any good way to
send
yes/no to ARS from blackberry? A quick google serach shows stuff like
NetBeans allowing code to consume Web Services from blackberries, but I
don't know enough to even conceive of a way that could be used in my
situation.


Ok, I do have some half baked ideas that may or may not work. If I
construct
a mid-tier URL that queries a form, called say Yes Response Form with
a
certain record ID (and possibly a security key as well), and write a
Get
filter on that form to look for the combination of the record ID and the
security key and on match interprete that as a Yes response, then
although
the query result may not show correctly on blackberry, on the server
side,
the response will have been processed.  Worth trying?

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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-04 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Rick:
My understanding is that web access is not supported in the BB environment
here, else I wouldn't be in this quandary. However, I will re-doublecheck,
if that's a word. I wasn't sure that this is even a question...because I
wasn't sure that BB environments would so differently in different places.
I'm clueless about BBs, as I said earlier.

About other interfaces...I will research, but do you have any names handy? 

Sandra:
I am aware of the email option, as I wrote in the post. I am looking at
better, more foolproof alternatives.

Robert:
About using PHP...I am not clear how can I have a BB user invoke php code
(or any other code) via an email received in BB. Can you elaborate?

Joe:
Thanks for the tip. Kinetic Survey...anyone? 

Or any other gizmo anybody wants to plug in here?


ps:
I am now thinking of a URL that invokes a web services client. Then I can
have two links passing the ticket id as well as yes or no parameter to the
client and the client will consume ARS web service. Some kind of server side
code...such as Java Servlet or .Net (or perhaps php).






Rick Cook-3 wrote:
 
 If your BB environment is set up to use web access, I would recommend
 constructing a truncated view of the approval screen, and send them that.
 If not, perhaps if your emails asking for approval had three URLs embedded
 in them - one for Yes, one for No, and perhaps one for Need more Info,
 those
 could map to separate email Inboxes that would route the approvals that
 way.
 
 Or, you could use one of the several very good interfaces between Remedy
 and
 BB devices, and display Remedy screens on them that way.
 
 Lots of ways to skin this cat.
 
 Rick
 
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 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:40 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?
 
 All:
 I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
 from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
 Yes/No
 answer back to ARS.
 
 Obvious solution is to have them reply to the email with YES or NO text or
 some other unique string and parse the email in Remedy to process the
 response...
 ...but is there a better way?
 
 It has been suggested that I can use a Web Service to accomplish this, but
 I
 just don't see how I can have blackberry users consume a ARS Web Service,
 and have that consumption be available in/thru that email.
 
 I could have a simple URL in the email that takes them to a simple Remedy
 form with yes/no buttons, but I am guessing a Mid-tier generated Remedy
 form
 isn't visible, functional in blackberry. I have never been sophisticated
 enough to use/own a blackberry, but I'm pretty sure remedy screens won't
 show properly. 
 
 Somebody shout me down, if this is not true, or if there is a workaround.
 
 So what has been suggested is provide two URLS in the email, corresponding
 to Yes and No responses. Again, I don't see what kind of URLs I can
 construct to communicate yes and no responses back to ARS. I certainly
 don't
 see any kind of URL directly consuming any Web Service I might write in
 ARS.
 
 Is my analysis so far reasonable? Do you guys know of any good way to send
 yes/no to ARS from blackberry? A quick google serach shows stuff like
 NetBeans allowing code to consume Web Services from blackberries, but I
 don't know enough to even conceive of a way that could be used in my
 situation.
 
 
 Ok, I do have some half baked ideas that may or may not work. If I
 construct
 a mid-tier URL that queries a form, called say Yes Response Form with a
 certain record ID (and possibly a security key as well), and write a Get
 filter on that form to look for the combination of the record ID and the
 security key and on match interprete that as a Yes response, then
 although
 the query result may not show correctly on blackberry, on the server side,
 the response will have been processed.  Worth trying?
 
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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-04 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Stephen,
Thanks for the info. So you have a server side code that is invoked with
some parameters by URL embedded in the ARS email. That's the line I was
thinking along at the end of last post.

I need to find out what kind of server side code can the web server handle
here (Websphere) and the capabilities of BB. You might find it funny, but I
don't even have access to a blackberry, not one from this site, not from
anywhere, and don't even have somebody with one that I can test with (as of
this moment), so I am just groping around in dark here. This is not the most
disadvantaged point from which I have worked over the years. I need to start
shouting here.


Rabi,

The way I did it here was to create a web app.  This assumes that your
BlackBerry can access a web app, which in turn can access your ARS
system. 

When the email is created in Remedy workflow inserts a hidden URL into
the top of the email.  The URL is not visible in Outlook (our email
client) but appears when viewing on a BlackBerry.  The user clicks this
link which starts the web app.  The URL will include at least one
parameter that links back to a ticket or record.  

Although not required, I use a GUID in the URL and each email recipient
gets a different GUID (even if the email is being sent to a group).  I
have a form that keeps track of the GUIDs with the Request Ids and a
expiration date.  After a certain amount of time (1 week) the link is no
longer valid.

I use ASP.Net and the ARS .Net API to retrieve ticket details and
display to the user.  The user can then update the work log, reassign
the ticket, and/or change the status.  

A button is available for them to Submit their changes to the ticket.
When clicked the web app updates the ticket in Remedy.  

For just a Yes/No response you could have two buttons, labeled Yes and
No.

If you want to ensure that only the recipient of the email can update
the ticket you could add a password field to the web app, which the user
would enter.  The web app would validate the password before updating
ARS.

HTH

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

All:
I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
Yes/No
answer back to ARS.

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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-04 Thread Joe D'Souza
Doesn't the Kinetic Survey have the ability to embed radio buttons or a
button in an email to respond to a Yes/No type of a response?

Joe
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Sundberg
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 4:04 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?


  ** You can find BB simulators available easily -- that is how we have done
testing in the past.

  Google for BB simulator -- you might be surprised. They are quite cool.


  -John




  On 1/4/08, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen,
Thanks for the info. So you have a server side code that is invoked with
some parameters by URL embedded in the ARS email. That's the line I was
thinking along at the end of last post.

I need to find out what kind of server side code can the web server
handle
here (Websphere) and the capabilities of BB. You might find it funny,
but I
don't even have access to a blackberry, not one from this site, not from
anywhere, and don't even have somebody with one that I can test with (as
of
this moment), so I am just groping around in dark here. This is not the
most
disadvantaged point from which I have worked over the years. I need to
start
shouting here.


Rabi,

The way I did it here was to create a web app.  This assumes that your
BlackBerry can access a web app, which in turn can access your ARS
system.

When the email is created in Remedy workflow inserts a hidden URL into
the top of the email.  The URL is not visible in Outlook (our email
client) but appears when viewing on a BlackBerry.  The user clicks this
link which starts the web app.  The URL will include at least one
parameter that links back to a ticket or record.

Although not required, I use a GUID in the URL and each email recipient
gets a different GUID (even if the email is being sent to a group).  I
have a form that keeps track of the GUIDs with the Request Ids and a
expiration date.  After a certain amount of time (1 week) the link is no
longer valid.

I use ASP.Net and the ARS .Net API to retrieve ticket details and
display to the user.  The user can then update the work log, reassign
the ticket, and/or change the status.

A button is available for them to Submit their changes to the ticket.
When clicked the web app updates the ticket in Remedy.

For just a Yes/No response you could have two buttons, labeled Yes and
No.

If you want to ensure that only the recipient of the email can update
the ticket you could add a password field to the web app, which the user
would enter.  The web app would validate the password before updating
ARS.

HTH

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:40 AM
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Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

All:
I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
Yes/No
answer back to ARS.

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Re: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

2008-01-04 Thread John Sundberg
You can find BB simulators available easily -- that is how we have done
testing in the past.

Google for BB simulator -- you might be surprised. They are quite cool.


-John



On 1/4/08, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stephen,
 Thanks for the info. So you have a server side code that is invoked with
 some parameters by URL embedded in the ARS email. That's the line I was
 thinking along at the end of last post.

 I need to find out what kind of server side code can the web server handle
 here (Websphere) and the capabilities of BB. You might find it funny, but
 I
 don't even have access to a blackberry, not one from this site, not from
 anywhere, and don't even have somebody with one that I can test with (as
 of
 this moment), so I am just groping around in dark here. This is not the
 most
 disadvantaged point from which I have worked over the years. I need to
 start
 shouting here.


 Rabi,

 The way I did it here was to create a web app.  This assumes that your
 BlackBerry can access a web app, which in turn can access your ARS
 system.

 When the email is created in Remedy workflow inserts a hidden URL into
 the top of the email.  The URL is not visible in Outlook (our email
 client) but appears when viewing on a BlackBerry.  The user clicks this
 link which starts the web app.  The URL will include at least one
 parameter that links back to a ticket or record.

 Although not required, I use a GUID in the URL and each email recipient
 gets a different GUID (even if the email is being sent to a group).  I
 have a form that keeps track of the GUIDs with the Request Ids and a
 expiration date.  After a certain amount of time (1 week) the link is no
 longer valid.

 I use ASP.Net and the ARS .Net API to retrieve ticket details and
 display to the user.  The user can then update the work log, reassign
 the ticket, and/or change the status.

 A button is available for them to Submit their changes to the ticket.
 When clicked the web app updates the ticket in Remedy.

 For just a Yes/No response you could have two buttons, labeled Yes and
 No.

 If you want to ensure that only the recipient of the email can update
 the ticket you could add a password field to the web app, which the user
 would enter.  The web app would validate the password before updating
 ARS.

 HTH

 Stephen
 Remedy Skilled Professional


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 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:40 AM
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 Subject: Submit Yes/No response to ARS from a blackberry?

 All:
 I need to provide blackberry users ability to receive an email from ARS,
 from which they should be able to, through some easy means, provide a
 Yes/No
 answer back to ARS.

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